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Speaker 1: Ever since the October seventh terror attacks, we've seen crazy rallies,

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk to a man who has infiltrated

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Speaker 1: has seen these rallies from the inside. His name is

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Speaker 1: Julia Rosas. You're probably familiar with him from being on

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Speaker 1: Fox News or having covered the Black Lives Matter protests

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Speaker 2: He wrote a book.

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Speaker 1: About it, fiery but mostly peaceful. He also has a

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Speaker 1: an independent journalist. Well, we're going to have him on

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Speaker 1: and talk to him about what's really happening at these rallies,

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Speaker 1: ju Us. Well, Julio, it's great to have you on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for having me again.

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Speaker 1: So you've been well, you've been covering crazy rallies for

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you wish they didn't go there. It's like

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Speaker 1: you've been covering just the madness in the country over

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Speaker 1: the past few years, and lately you've been covering these,

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Speaker 1: you know, pro Hamas rallies, So appreciate you doing that.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure does it ever get kind of like scary?

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Speaker 1: Do you ever worry about, you know, just how violent

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Speaker 2: You always have to be aware of your surroundings, especially

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Speaker 2: in these types of situations, and especially I mean, I'm

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Speaker 2: not a juis fan of New York City just because

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Speaker 2: plenty of times since since October seventh, and yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: it's it was very the very first one, it was

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Speaker 2: far left in that coalition, and so when October seventh happened,

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Speaker 2: we don't agree with what Hamas did per se, but

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Speaker 2: we just generally support the Palestinian cause and Gaza and

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Speaker 2: cheering the attacks. Specifically, they specifically said that these you know,

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Speaker 2: they're calling freedom fighters. They used paragliders and people were

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Speaker 2: the United States support not just Palestine, but support Hamas

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Speaker 2: and what they did. You know, they say they're not

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Speaker 2: resistance movement. What they did was justified. And so that

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Speaker 2: begs the question to, Okay, well, if you support that

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Speaker 2: enabler of that or participant in that in their struggle,

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Speaker 2: you know, in the struggle against Israel, what are you

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Speaker 2: I Mean, that's kind of always the question. And so

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Speaker 2: But for me, it's more not just my safety it's

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Speaker 2: they're going to escalate their tactics out of desperation, you know.

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Speaker 1: And you're also marine. Do you think I imagine that

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Speaker 2: There's a few things that have come in handy, specifically

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Speaker 1: And of course you wrote your Brooke fiery but mostly

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Speaker 2: So I wouldn't say these recent demonstrations, they haven't devolved

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Speaker 2: is more concerning because BLM was mostly focused one hundred percent,

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Speaker 1: There's some people who try to say, oh, it's just

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Speaker 2: It's like, well, then you should probably stop cheering for

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Speaker 1: You know, we saw Paul Kessler who is murdered and

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. And that's why I have my own subsect,

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Speaker 2: And I'll give you an example again with the Christmas

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Speaker 2: I mean, this was not at all a peaceful protest.

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Speaker 2: I mean that that really showed me how fragile our

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Speaker 2: society is, right and because how much the the security

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Speaker 2: So I think with the way the country is going,

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Speaker 1: How concerned are you, and having covered the border and

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Speaker 1: having served the country and you know, looking covering these

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Speaker 1: we're going to see some sort of terror attack here

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Speaker 2: I'm very concerned because the conventional wisdom and I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure if I've said this before on your show, but

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Speaker 2: very different than it is now because before they would say, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: the cartels would in no way facilitate smuggling in and

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Speaker 2: to the cartel that helped facilitate them acrossing the border.

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Speaker 2: They know that they're going to face severe repercussions, as

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Speaker 2: their capability to make money. But that was before the

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Speaker 2: that's just a fact where we are not the country

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Speaker 2: who before making maybe five hundred million dollars a year

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Speaker 2: comes along and now they're making eight billion dollars just

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Speaker 2: to develop an ego with that, and you're gonna do

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Speaker 2: things that you probably normally wouldn't do, such as smuggling

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Speaker 2: people from these special interest countries that nay pose a

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Speaker 2: terroristic threat, because what do you think they're afraid of Biden?

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Speaker 2: You know, the guy who has to use the small

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Speaker 2: areas is going to trip and fall like no one's

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Speaker 2: no one's scared of Biden. And then I don't blame

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Speaker 2: them because again, I mean, the lad's week, the country's week,

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Speaker 2: and so I'm not saying it's a guarantee, but I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, the FBI director yesterday was cetisfying that all

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Speaker 2: the red lights, all the warning signs are flashing red

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Speaker 2: for for something to happen. And so why would we

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Speaker 2: as a nation, why would we put ourselves further at

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Speaker 1: It has to be intentional, because there's just no way

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Speaker 1: you could screw up this badly. I mean, it really

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Speaker 1: is just common sense. So like to defy common sense

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Speaker 2: Well, where can I know?

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Speaker 1: You've got to go to one of these rallies? Where

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Speaker 1: can people find your work?

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Speaker 2: They can find me at Mostly Peaceful, Doubt Live, they

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Speaker 2: can subscribe to my sub steck. I'm now a full

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Speaker 2: fledged independent reporter because and I decided to go independent

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Speaker 2: because I really think twenty twenty four is going to be,

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Speaker 2: you know, a pretty big year and more ways than one,

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Speaker 2: and so you know, I wanted to have the freedom

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Speaker 2: to kind of go where I want. There's gonna be

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Speaker 2: obviously a lot of protest coverage along with the border coverage,

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Speaker 2: just because it just boasting those two things along will

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Speaker 2: give me busy now, so they can go and support

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Speaker 2: my work over there, and.

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Speaker 1: Then they can also find your book Fiery but mostly

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Speaker 1: Peaceful as well.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, my books on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, any

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Speaker 2: any place you are but to purchase book. It's still

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Speaker 2: still there.

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Speaker 1: Julia Rosas, thanks so much. Stay safe out there and

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Speaker 1: we'll love to have you come back on and keep

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Speaker 1: us updated on all this craziness.

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Speaker 2: For sure, thank you. It was Hobia Rosas.

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Speaker 1: He's been covered all these crazy rallies, from the BLM

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Speaker 1: stuff to these pro Hamas rallies. I appreciate you at

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Speaker 1: home for listening every Monday and Thursday, but you can

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Speaker 1: listen throughout the week. What I think John Cassio and

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Speaker 1: my producer for putting the show together until the next

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