WEBVTT - Defining Your Own Legacy With Jack Schlossberg 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.280 If called to serve by b Smote himself. How could 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:04.600 you say that? 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:10.120 Man? What's handed? Man? You got Marshawn, Besma Lynch, Doug Hendrickson. 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:12.080 And Gavin Knewsome and you're listening to politics. 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:14.440 You ain't going to be You're known to be. 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:26.680 Marshaun. How's a hit trailer of new movie coming out? 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:26.880 Now? 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:28.080 That's the talk of the world. 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:29.600 Trailers get to be hits. 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:32.280 It's the talk of the world this new movie. 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:34.840 Leave it up to Doug. Man. 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:38.000 I notice you're a shitty shot, buddy. You can't even 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:40.080 take the guy out. You know, you're not how to 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:42.920 use a gun. The hell's going on, marsha. 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:44.600 I'm gonna tell you man, they trying to ban the 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.320 guns and count in the States right now. So I 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:49.600 ain't been able to give my practice up man, you 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.880 know what I mean. And that little motherfucker was fast 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:57.080 as ship. Kei kwan. He fast as ship? 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:58.080 Who's that actor? 0:00:58.320 --> 0:00:58.800 Who is he? 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:00.400 He's a great actor. He's a lot of fun. 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:04.080 Yeah, he's like he like fifty four years old. And 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:06.640 this little bitty ass was doing all his own stunts 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:11.200 and shit. And I'm like, God, damn, I just hope 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:15.040 to be moving like that at fifty and he did 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.160 all this stunt like he get up, he do all 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:20.680 his own stunts, like when we was practicing and shit 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:24.319 doing that, like you know, when I was grabbing him 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:26.959 and throwing him, He's like, no, actually, like really grab 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.360 me and if you could just hit me a little bit, 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:31.360 just so I can feel it so I could react. 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:35.480 And I'm like, I don't know about really hitting you, bro, 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.119 Can we just do a really good job at acting 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.560 like it because you hell are small? Like no, no, no, 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:41.120 I can take it. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:41.720 Just try it. 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:44.160 So I hit his ass one time and he was like, hey, 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.240 you know, Marshan, I was thinking like, uh, maybe we 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.080 should not do that and you should probably just you know, 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.920 we should just fake it really good. And I'm like, yeah, 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:53.400 I think. 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:55.480 Well, all I know, Gavin is that you and I 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.720 are going to be with Marshaun and the Man's Shinese 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.280 Theater in Hollywood for the premiere. 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.640 The Red Carpet, the Red Card Carpet. 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:03.920 And last time I was there when I did Angel 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.640 in the Alphabet. I got invited to premiere and I 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:07.760 had seven lines. 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:09.040 Look at this guy. 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:13.760 I had lines, boy, go to the true Story, I 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:14.520 go to the premiere. 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:16.880 During the movie, I keep saying, like, my scene's about 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.280 to come up, and they cut all my lines. So 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.000 at the end of the movie, I go to Irbie Smith, 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:24.680 real real famous uh Disney director, and I go, Erbie, 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:26.120 you're killing me. I bring my buddy. I go to 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.960 the premiere and I said, where are my lines? And 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:30.800 he said, Doug, welcome to Hollywood. We had to cut 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:31.320 him all out. 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:35.320 I was an extra in Sister Act and I think 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.200 I got cut, though I claimed that my hand may 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.800 have been in it. So if there's a mysterious hand 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.000 walking by, that was mine. 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:44.720 Was you singing? Yeah? 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:47.200 What are you kidding? I rushed to the theaters to 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.480 see me and I wasn't in it. I'm like, what 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.080 the hell is this? Two days on the set as 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.800 an extra. It's a big moment for me. Man. I 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:55.720 felt kind of cool. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:09.480 Hey Jack, how you doing, Bud? 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:10.400 Hey everybody? 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:11.240 Great to be here. 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:12.639 Hey Governor, good to. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.520 Be here with you. I appreciate Marshaun. You you're almost 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:19.520 You're almost better dressed than Jack is today. He's all casual. 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.079 You're looking good, Jack, Well. 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.960 Well, Governor, I had to show you my hat. What's 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.359 your is like? My oldest hat. I wear it every 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.160 day and it's a Balbo cafe. My best friend gave 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:32.480 my best friend game for my birthday one year and 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:33.360 we go there best. 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.920 This is the best guess we've had. This is our guy. 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:37.200 What the hell? 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.920 Where'd you get that? Seriously, where'd you get My best friend. 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.040 Gave it to me for my birth We have a 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:44.960 birthday gift friendship, and this was my special gift like 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:46.840 two years ago, and I haven't really taken it off 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.400 since then. We go we go there every time I 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:49.640 visit him alt in San Francisco. 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:51.440 Jesus, I didn't even know that man. 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:53.960 I did not know that at Echelon? 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.840 What what is that of Govin's Bori Moore sean below 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.200 man Balboa Cafe in San Francisco. 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.600 I thought he said bubble. I say, I don't know 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.600 that one. That must be the upper eche line. 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.320 I love it. By the way, tell me Jack, you 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.880 know put all damn mayonnaise on every single thing? 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.400 You feel like, I'm like, oh my god, I'm mister 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.760 mayonnaise right now. Yeah, I actually really do mean all 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.240 of it. I love mayonnaise. I think it just makes 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.720 everything so much better. Serious, I really love it. 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:23.919 Man, I'll throw up if I hate that. 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:24.480 Dude. 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:29.960 Dude, it's even worse than you think. Jack literally orders pizzas. 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.520 Bro Yeah, I put it on pizza well because it's 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:33.840 like a sandwich. 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:34.400 You know what I mean? 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.960 But Jack, this miracle whip does miracle whip constant? I'm 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:38.359 a miracle. 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.120 I ain't mayonnaise. I mean Helman's Man, I love my 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:41.839 miracle whip. 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:44.599 Oh yeah, that shit is terrible. 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:46.839 I don't actually know if I ever had it, but 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:47.960 you know what, I should give a try. 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.920 Oh that ain't right. I don't even understand that there 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.120 are a lot of anti mayonnaise people out there. Jack, 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:54.320 you see are losing folks. 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.200 Listen, it's it's I'm prepared for this fight. It's a 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:58.720 fight that I've been preparing for. 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.479 Well, Jack, we're on her because you know, Gavin and 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.760 I are just state school, public school kids, but we're 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.120 on or having two Ivy League guys there, Marshawn being 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.280 a Princeton graduate after. 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.840 Princeton trust yeah with a wink and or no Princeton, 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.360 but he does have a certificate somehow he got it. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.240 Not somehow, man, you know, I put in work for 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:20.320 that thing. My boy, I wan't talk about Batman. I 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.280 put in work for that long hours. 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.000 But Marshan, I mean, Jack's got this. I don't know 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.120 he went to I had to look him up the thing. 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.800 What's something called Yale? And what was the other one? 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.600 Doug starts with an h like. 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:35.680 It wasn't Home, It wasn't Humboldt, State, wasn't nick Hard 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:37.360 small squad. 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.120 No, no, no, no, you got to you gotta get 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.600 him right when they do that, because you know they 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.760 gonna play this. We went to public school and state school. 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:46.080 And she said, what makes Marshan? 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:47.160 What do we do? What do I say? 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:48.839 You got to? No, you got to just make sure 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:50.240 you tighten them up. You feel me. You got to 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:51.760 get them together and let him know what type of 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:53.919 time you want you feel me? Have him pronounced it right, 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:58.960 because it sounds like there you go. Did you heard university? 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:00.680 Who's ever said you university? 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.920 I never haven't heard of Harvard, but not Harvard University. 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:05.720 But see, he wants you to know. 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:07.000 I want you to know. 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:08.640 Yeah, he want you to know. 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:10.880 Marshaun. I just got to say this. I'm a huge 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.640 fan of yours and I think you're so cool. And 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:17.440 uh yeah a long time and skittles during the game 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:22.880 and anyway, you're just like everything. Yeah, you're a super 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.839 inspiring guy. So it's an honor to be here with you, 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:26.000 and you. 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:27.279 Know what, I appreciate it, big dog. 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.080 If Marshawn ends up running for mayor of Oakland, we 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.760 need you to run his TikTok account because you're pretty 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.320 good at TikTok speaking. Have you run the TikTok account 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:36.919 for Marshawn is the mayor of Oakland? 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.120 Oh my god, Well, I'm pretty sure Marshawn's got me 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.920 beat on all things communication. But I'm if if called 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:47.520 to serve by be smote himself. How could you say 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:48.440 that you. 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:50.640 Know what the code party is. I don't even play 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.760 TikTok though, you feel what I'm saying. But but Doug, 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.960 I mean Doug, he ain't gonna let you play down nothing. 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.520 But he did you know? That was one thing that 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:01.520 he did tell me about you and how you rocket 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.120 on there. How for me, I just I just don't 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.200 know it, maybe because I'm hell old or something and 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.200 I just probably don't get it. But you enjoy doing 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.200 that shit though, Huh? 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.320 Yeah, I mean I feel like I for me, it's 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:17.840 like so fun to make the videos or make videos. 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:19.680 I think it's it's really fun and I just kind 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.320 of messing around. I've always been doing. It's just kind 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.120 of like something that I've been doing in the background 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.080 because I'm just a kid who had grew up with 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.720 Instagram and stuff. But I didn't get on TikTok till 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.800 a couple months ago. And it's really weird. It's really 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.400 different than I thought. I was kind of scared of it. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:35.320 I thought it was going to be like really scary 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:39.480 and really hard to figure out. But yeah, no, it's 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.960 it's it's interesting. I feel like it gets a bad 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.559 rap people say, like talk about social media like it's 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.760 it's somehow like less dignified than other things. But I 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.160 feel like right now we're seeing that it in a 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.480 lot of ways drives the conversation and allows you to 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.239 talk directly to people in a way that I didn't 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.320 really fully understand until I started doing it. 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.640 Well that's crazy, because then you must got it. You 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.000 must got a pretty good algorithm on there. Because when 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.280 I see some like like when my family members and 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.760 shit showed me something like that, all I see is 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.960 butt cheeks. You feel what I'm saying, butt cheeks and 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:16.640 fucking fights and car accidents and all kind of crazy 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.080 shit like that. So, I mean, I guess it just 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:21.679 depends on your algorithm or the way that you choose 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.640 to use that thing. But you know, for a minute there, 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:26.440 I ain't gonna lie. The butt cheeks really did have 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:30.960 my mond, Doug. 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:32.520 I don't know what they're even talking about. 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.520 Well, well, actually, Jack, speaking of TikTok was pretty cool. 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.560 Is that you call out JD Vance all the time, who, 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.680 by the way, I think is kind of bizarre, crazy too. 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.440 But the cool thing is you call him out and 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.440 in return, Govin gets called out by Trump every day, 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.120 called new scum. But you're doing it in a cool 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.040 way where it's like you're just telling them, hey, listen, 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:52.000 hear the facts. Give me some answers. Gavin gets called 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.840 up by Trump every day new scum. You know, I'll 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.240 da da da, And it's and it's kind of interesting 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.040 your TikTok stuff on JD and Gavin can allude on 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:01.839 his Trump stuff. 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.040 Oh well, but Jack, I mean, but it is it 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.040 does beg a question, man, I mean, you're not shy 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.439 about any of this and you know, I appreciate your 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.000 willingness to put yourself out. You can contrast that to 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.719 some of our major national newspapers that didn't even want 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.640 to make a decision and their editorial boards about which 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.480 direction to go in November. You've made it pretty clear 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.640 about who you're supporting, what you're about. But I mean, 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.320 it's it does come. And we were joking about the mayonnaise, 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.800 but I mean, you got it. I mean, there's got 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.360 to be a you know, there's obvious not just the risk, 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.200 there's a reality of backlash and a lot of hate. 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:34.960 I imagine that's a big part of it as well. 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:38.400 No, yeah, I feel like, I mean, coming from you, 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.439 that's such a compliment. I feel like if I can 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.080 think of one person who has stood out in the 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.640 last four years, I mean longer than that, but really 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.920 especially the last four years of just like being someone 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:54.920 to deliver the positive, clear, strong message that I want 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.319 to hear as a Democrat. You have been doing that, 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.640 you know, as well and not better than anybody. 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.680 And I told Batman, go around for fucking president. 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.120 Yeah, I know, it's like you've gone on limb yourself. 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:08.800 I mean, you're saying that I'm, you know whatever, risking something, 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:10.480 but you know you do it every day too, and 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.560 I feel like, so that's a huge complent coming from you. 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.160 But yeah, I mean I don't know, Marshawn could tell 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:18.240 every like the haters whatever, haters or whatever, they help 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:18.600 you out. 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.720 It's crazy that you just say that, because right before 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:23.959 you came home, we will talk about the haters that 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.160 they might have something to say about Lebrown and shit, 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.000 and we had it. You know, I mean, it's simple 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.800 little two words for you. Fuck you? I mean you 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.360 know that ship that shit is simple, but it goes 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:38.440 a long way, a long way. You should you should 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.560 try it. You give it a try, like right now? 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:41.599 Like fuck you? 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:44.920 Wait, mar Shaan, can I ask you a question? 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:46.040 What's up? 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:50.120 How do you like? I feel like something I've noticed 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.480 is that maybe I started off funny, but the more 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.840 time I spend around uh people who are in politics, 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.360 less funny I become. But I feel like you've managed 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:03.480 to maintain like, uh hilarious attitude and focus obviously, Like 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.199 how do you stay in the pocket like that and 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:10.480 not get your brain warped by everybody around you? Uh? 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:15.280 I think it's probably more so just like Uh, I'm 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.920 not of this I'm not of this world. I'm like 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.520 in it. So I don't really got no problem with 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:26.280 the way that people judge me or if they got 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.400 something to say about me, especially if they don't know me. 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.320 So that shit has been something that I've been able 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:36.520 to take and I've been able to like really hondo too. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:40.120 And I really ain't got no like, I ain't got 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.400 no shame, like you know what I mean. I sit 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:47.040 here with the with the governor of California, you know, 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.560 week in and week out, and I don't feel I 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.400 need to be a particular type of way because of 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.440 his title. I just look at him as shit, this 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:58.680 is dog that come to my my foundation events or 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.920 come out to my camp going pop up like shit, 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.720 what's handled with you? My boy? You fit? So I don't. 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.160 I don't feel no pressure to be somebody that I'm not. 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:11.040 And I think that's what really, you know, I mean, 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:15.400 helped me or is me like I just I'm just me. 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.440 I can't i' see no other need to want to 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:19.960 be somebody else, And I love that. 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.200 But it's interesting, you know, Marshawn here and you say that, 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:26.040 and I deeply appreciate that. And you know that's what 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:30.280 makes Marshawn so wonderful is he's He's the same damn guy, 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.800 no matter the circumstance and whoever he's with or in 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:36.800 front of and totally authentic. But Jack, I mean, for you, 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.760 it man, it comes with a lot of expectation, right. 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:41.760 I mean you you walk into the room and you've 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.079 got all that legacy attached to you. And that's where 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.280 I think it takes even more courage in some respects 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.520 for you to be so expressive because you're putting stuff 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.240 on the line, and I imagine your families, you know, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.880 they can't help it to be a little sensitized by it, 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.000 positive there negatively. 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:56.720 Uh. 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.280 And So what I mean, how's that experience been for 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.559 you as you? I mean, you talk about coming out 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.680 on TikTok recently, but it's not just that. I mean 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.560 you kind of blown up online a much bigger I mean, 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.760 in a pretty powerful way, your legit influencer. Now in 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:12.840 the conversation, you got a generation of folks that aren't 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.480 necessarily tuned in. You're tuning them up and focused on 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:20.280 this election. But again with a lot of that I 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:23.480 don't want to call it baggage, but expectation that's laid 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:24.240 in with it as well. 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.160 Well. No, totally. I mean I appreciate I appreciate you 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:32.400 recognizing that. I think that for me, the last few 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.920 months have really been like I haven't been thinking about 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.760 it too much because I actually really care about what's 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.640 going on and that's at the center of it all. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.480 And I think that that allows you to play with 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:48.079 people's minds and play with expectation and play with others 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:52.679 like bounce off the legacy aspect if you actually care 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:54.480 and think that you're hard is in the right place, 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:55.920 and that you're going to be able to stand by 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.400 what you did either way because you think it like 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.600 you weren't. I wasn't prepared to not do anything this year, 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.440 and that could mean a lot of different things, Like I, 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.560 you know, a part of me thought like I should 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.800 just go, you know, slog it out and work at 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.800 a law firm or a public defender's office something like that, 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.480 which is incredible work. But I feel like I was like, no, 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.960 but I think I'm kind of better at making videos. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:20.680 And the kids that I would say next to you 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.160 in law school, they should they are much better at 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.600 being lawyers. And we should trust them and not me, 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.040 and I should make the videos. 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:28.520 So I think that. 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:32.560 I don't know. Yeah, I feel like for me, it's 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:36.400 like this has been a fun way to experiment rather 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:40.120 than like, oh my god, the Kennedy legacy and how 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.040 and I have to be so serious and do all 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:44.960 this stuff. I mean, I spent a pretty long time 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.840 in school not really misbehaving at all, and I live 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.600 a pretty like straight and narrow life, and I'm super 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.800 disciplined about a lot of different things. So I feel like, damn, 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.920 how boring is does she so boring? Oh? My god? 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.320 I mean, whatever, it is not boring. I'm so lucky 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:02.080 I got to go there. 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:05.200 But no, well, Jack, let me ask a question. 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:09.040 Like Kevin said, you're obviously the most famous family in 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.280 the world, the Kennedy's and whatnot, and growing up as 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.640 a kid in that environment that press your head on you. 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.920 Was there ever a way any Was there any time 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.200 you almost went the wrong way because you see so 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:22.720 many families with kids and grandkids and whatnot that go detour. 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.040 Was there ever a point that you remember you almost 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.400 went south with a bad crew of friends or something 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:28.640 like that, or how was. 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:32.120 That for me? It was never like bad crew of friends. 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:36.960 It was more like just like putting too much much 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.080 on myself. I had a really bad One thing that 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:40.600 like I would say, is like I had a really 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:42.520 bad injury for a while and I couldn't and I 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:46.040 had to like have like you know, Marshan Froine knows 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:47.640 all about this, but I like I could really walk 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.080 for like a number of years, and I think that 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:56.360 that was like a major personality for me experience that 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:00.640 I think allowed me to develop some resilience. I take 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.360 my grandfather's legacy really seriously and something that I've been 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:05.560 like working to with the JFP Library since I was 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:09.160 like seventeen or eighteen years old. Also, I feel like 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.080 I'm talking way too much and we've got like three 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.040 incredible people here, so I should I should stop. 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:15.360 No, that's what you hear, folks. 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:19.600 No, But I mean so like I put a lot 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.200 of work and a thought into thinking about President Kennedy 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.280 and what he means and like what the coolest aspects 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.920 of his legacy are, and listening to his speeches and 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.440 studying that and speaking about him and like applying the 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:35.600 lessons of his time to our time. It's like all 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.600 throughout my life, throughout every day, and I think that 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:42.360 that's like kept me pretty straight and narrow. But I 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.240 would say that after I released some of the videos 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:50.040 first time around, I was like, did I like, I 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:51.400 don't know, Like a couple of days went by and 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.600 nobody said anything, and I was like, oh. 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:57.120 Ouch, did I piss my mom off? 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.280 I was like, I was like, whatever, I don't care. 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:04.240 That's good if nobody says anything, like, you know, But anyway, 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.600 I think that I was happy with the reaction in 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:08.800 the long long term. 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.399 But it's interesting, I mean, because your videos are related. 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.359 I mean it's interesting use humor primarily as sort of 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.640 the I mean, that's that's how you sort of bring 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:20.200 people in to the conversation. I mean, obviously that had 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.199 to be a big part of I mean, have you 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:23.120 always been that guy? 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.800 Yeah, well totally, I think, like totally like a clown 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.880 forever and love making people laugh and love doing impressions 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:33.000 and stuff like that. But I definitely have my serious 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.480 side too, and I like to have both. I think. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:37.879 I think that's like what I find really fun is 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:41.080 to be like able to freak people out because they're 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.960 expecting me to be do something like weird and I'm 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.960 just like a serious, normal person and they're like, huh, 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.000 he's so nice. I'm like, yeah, well I'm not going 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:50.720 to do that, right I'm not going to go crazy 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.879 right now. But yeah, I think humor. I feel like 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.679 you probably get this. I mean, you've been in politics 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:58.720 a long time. It's like you got to break through 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.760 and and you can do that in a number of ways. 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.159 You can be like vulgar and you can attack people, 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.239 and you can be like you can do things that 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.520 other people do, or you can like try to have 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.480 a hopeful spind and I think humor. Humor is a 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:16.240 great way to do that. And it's really all I've got. 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.200 So you got like hell of security and ship around 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.520 you all the time, like no nothing. 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.480 This whole thing has been me literally just me and 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:28.200 my phone. And I have now I have like two 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:31.080 really cool people helping me, like who I've known for 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:32.760 a really long time, like my friends growing up, and 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:34.480 they're like pitching in. But it's really just been me 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:35.960 on my phone, man. 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.040 Because it's crazy, right, So when when they when they 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:42.359 release like the press of like oh yeah, mar Sean 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:46.600 Gevin and Doug they doing this podcast, Ship I had 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:48.159 this dude come up to me while I was in 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:53.000 the airport going to go through our first our first show, 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.960 and I had this dude come up to me like hey, 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:59.240 mar Shan, and I'm I'm already you know, I mean, 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:01.760 i'd have made up my mind already, like man, I 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:03.680 don't know why they didn't give me the ball, like right, 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.399 because that's how usually people come. And he's like, you 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.520 fucking scum back, And I'm like, what the fuck, I mean, 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:11.760 what the fuck wrong with you? Bruh, Like you're fucking 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:15.119 doing that that podcast with fucking news com like fuck you. 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.080 And I'm like, man, hold on the fuck type of 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.560 time you're on, brud like And it was weird because 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.080 it's normally a guy that probably wouldn't have said shit 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.359 to me. But you know, I'm like, man, what the 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.840 fuck going on? So fuck you. I'll fuck you. I'll 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.080 fuck you up right now. I'll fucking kick your ass, like, man, 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:32.880 I beat the shit out of you in this airport. 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.720 You got me fucked up, Like oh shit. So when 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:37.840 I get to Batman, I'm like, hey, bro, you gotta 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:39.800 you gotta give me some secret service or something. You 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:41.480 gotta give me some people to come travel with me 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.119 because you know I didn't. It's a different kind of 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:45.600 beef when you you know what I mean. 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:48.880 By the way, Jackie's not He's not bullshitting. He literally 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.800 walked in tells me this story. He's like, Bro, I'm serious, 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:53.800 I need security. Man. What the hell am I doing 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:55.520 with you? Why am I even associating? 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:56.280 Man? 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:58.959 I'm like, Bro, it's a different kind of beef. Like, Bro, 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:01.720 you got this from kind of motherfuckers who looking to 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:06.359 fuck you up and they can't get to you, but 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.679 they could get to me, Like you gotta get me 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.639 some secret service or something. So I'm like, man, you 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.000 know what you being? You know who you aren't thinking? 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:17.679 Like damn, bro probably got like eighteen security guards somewhere 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:19.200 in back or to the side of something. 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.280 You'd be so surprised at how much of a chaotic 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:23.080 mess my life is. 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:34.800 Marshawn. 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.080 On that note, I'm curious, Gavin, we weren't around then, 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:40.200 but like you know, Jack's grandfather when he was president, 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:44.000 do you think he had the same people that had 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:46.159 the vitriol Gavin that either if they didn't like him, 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:48.640 or did people come up to the guys back then 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:50.680 and yell at him say stuff or was it more 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.359 of respect factor than it is now? I mean, do 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:55.480 you any stories you've heard on that jack in terms 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:57.480 of your round as far as what went on back 0:20:57.520 --> 0:20:58.120 in the day. 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:00.080 And like there are the other two boys one And 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.240 the first point is like it's always been like really 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:06.119 difficult in politics, and I think that that's always been true. 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:10.480 And it's a mistake to think like it's way worse 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:12.280 now than it was in the past, because I think 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:14.600 like a lot of things get glossed over from the past. 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:15.640 That were terrible. 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:16.200 Yep. 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:18.919 But I think the second point is like there's no 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:22.440 denying that things are more heated now than they were 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:27.000 and people have a much maybe bolder than they were. 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:29.200 I feel like something that comes to mind. I don't 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:30.920 know why. I was a Senate page in high school 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.600 and my uncle Teddy Senator Kennedy, was there, and I 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:36.120 remember there was a senator who had been elected four 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:37.840 years ago and he was still waiting to get his 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:39.960 first speech on the floor. And that was like the 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:41.840 old school rules. It was like you weren't allowed to 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:43.840 talk until just to wait your turn for years and 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:47.360 years and years. And I know that today now it's 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:50.040 like people go in the first month, and that's kind 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:52.280 of maybe that's a good thing, but I think that 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:58.080 there is kind of less of a reverence for tradition. 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.320 Maybe No, it's interesting way, Doug, just the remind you 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:05.399 of Marshawn. I mean, Jack's grandfather was one of the 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.240 closest elections in American history, So we were as a 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:11.840 nation arguably as divided we are today one and it 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.080 was interesting as well. It also was marked, I mean 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:18.280 infamously by the impact that media had at the time 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.840 to elevate a Canada or at least perceived of vetted 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.560 to candidate. And of course now the changing media environment, 0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:28.160 Jack is obviously also playing into this where you don't 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:30.960 even have no one even cares about giving an eloquent 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:33.119 speech on the floor because they can go on one 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:35.920 of the cable networks and express their grievance and get 0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:37.400 a bunch of viral hits online. 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:41.159 Totally, I mean, yeah, I mean, I really do think 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:43.960 about this stuff all the time. I mean, what concerns 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:45.679 me the most about what I say on the Internet 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:49.560 and why I really felt like I needed to post 0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:53.080 and why I started posting more was, you know, I 0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:56.239 realized that the only way to combat disinformation is like 0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:59.800 not maybe through government regulation, but through posting your own 0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:04.000 ideas and thoughts and and flooding the space with what 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:07.240 you think is right, and because otherwise it's just there's 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:09.400 a limited number of time, a limit number of eyeballs 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:12.520 people are just going to be watching, and if Trump's 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:16.200 on there all the time, then like exposure effect over time, 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:20.359 that works, and so I think, like I think, but 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:22.880 then again it's all it's also like a dangerous path. 0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:24.679 You're like, well, now I'm just going to post everything, 0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:27.520 and that's not a healthy mental space to be in either. 0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:31.880 So I feel like I see a lot of promise 0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:34.400 with what's going on right now. I feel like young 0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:36.919 people are like coming up with their own ideas, And 0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:40.120 I mean, maybe you've done this, Governor of like filming 0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:43.920 content with and an influencer who's like kind of obscure 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:46.560 but because a really loyal following, and then they like, 0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:48.760 that's a really good use of your time. And I 0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:51.800 think things are kind of decentralizing and a what I 0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:55.399 think is going to be a good a good pattern. 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:58.600 But I'm curious, like how much of since you got elected, Governor, 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.680 how much it's changed, like in terms of like this year, 0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:05.600 you're making tons of videos, but when you first got elected, 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:06.560 that was like not a thing. 0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:09.239 Now, well, I've just watched I mean, and you know, 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:11.960 since my time as lieutenant governor, I'd say there's trend 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:14.439 lines now a headline you sort of you see a 0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:18.560 significant contraction of traditional media. I mean, I just see 0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:19.760 it in the number of people that show up at 0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:23.560 a press conference in Sacramento. I go back to the 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:26.639 Schwarzenegger days, which were crazy. I mean you look at 0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:28.959 some of those press conferences, you look at photos, and 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:31.040 there it seemed in some cases, I mean, he had 0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:33.240 over one hundred media outlets at certain times. Of course, 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:36.200 he was international celebrity in every way. He's not comparable 0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:38.280 to most, but back in the day, sort of the 0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:43.160 Reagan days in California, but even more contemporary days, going 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:45.760 back to Duke Major and Wilson some of the previous governors. 0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:47.439 You look at the press corps and you see it 0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:52.199 hollowed out, smaller and smaller number of people. But really 0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:55.720 that accelerant I think went through COVID and then you 0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:58.480 really started to realize that we were you know, that 0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:02.760 we had to sort of in that social space because 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.600 back to Marshawn's point about the algorithms, feels like we 0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:08.239 were living in two different worlds and we started I 0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:10.600 really started to see things sort of pull away in 0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:13.240 terms of truth and trust, and we weren't having the 0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:15.800 same conversation. We always were struggling to have the same 0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:20.119 Walter Cronkite type discussion. But boy, I think that accelerant 0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:23.280 during COVID and that, you know, is the emergence of TikTok. 0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:28.680 Obviously a maturation of Instagram and social media more broadly 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:32.760 dispersed generationally like Facebook as platforms and others, and obviously 0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:36.520 X previously Twitter, but now man, it's it's I mean, 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:40.200 if you're not in this space fighting for eyeballs and attention, 0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:44.000 then you're not able to You're not effectively communicating. Think 0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:46.080 is one of the reasons we're all doing this podcast 0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.320 is just trying to find different angles a way of 0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:52.000 communicating to real people and not having that filter or 0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:53.720 being in a filter bubble as it were. 0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:56.640 No, it's funny, Gavin and you guys and I going 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:57.960 back to more Shawn the Super Bowl. 0:25:58.000 --> 0:25:59.919 I'm just here so well could find Jack remember that 0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:00.800 exactly mean that. 0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:07.119 Then, and and unapologetically Marshawn's always been real. Gavin's always 0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:10.000 done been real, didn't give a ship, And you're the 0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:11.960 same way right now. You could take the high road 0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:13.760 and be kind of low key and safe, but you're not. 0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.720 We appreciate that because you know, coming from where you 0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:20.119 came from and you being outspoken and your beliefs is 0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:21.000 really freaking cool. 0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:25.480 Thank you. I mean, I really appreciate that. I feel like, yeah, 0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:27.000 I mean, I've got a lot to say. I feel 0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:29.280 like things are really this is like a huge moment, 0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:32.520 you know, and and it's easy to get lost in 0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:35.520 the manicha whatever, but it's like this isn't this is 0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:38.320 couldnt be more important and cannot be more more clear. 0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.200 And I think something that I've learned or didn't see 0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:45.120 really coming in the last year is the gender gap 0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:48.160 that I'm that we're seeing in terms of Democrats losing 0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:53.000 support among young men and seeing as governor you are 0:26:54.040 --> 0:27:00.400 peak masculine energy. Marshawan seems alphaz like, how do we 0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:03.280 And Doug, of course you and me are both the 0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:09.719 traditional male alpha, but I'm wondering, like, how do we? 0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:13.920 How do you? How do we break through to God, 0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:15.840 how do you talk to young men? I mean, governor, 0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:16.760 have you had any success? 0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:18.920 Now, Jack, I was going to ask you that question. 0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:19.080 Man. 0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:21.600 We talk about this sort of bro culture online and 0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:23.679 it's a big part of this election. And you know, 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:25.960 and you say, talk about that gender gap. It's next 0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:29.720 level in both both directions, right, Kamala running away in 0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:33.160 a post Dobbs world, particularly around reproductive freedom, but also 0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:37.679 just more broadly on women's rights. And obviously Trump is 0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:41.160 just sort of dominating in that that Dana White space, 0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:45.359 that sort of Joe roganification of our politics. And you know, 0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.560 Joe's pretty moderate compared to some of these other folks 0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:50.800 out there. But I mean, I'm curious to you, I 0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:56.080 mean this, I mean, how what's your feedback in that space? 0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:57.639 I mean, how are you trying to to sort of 0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.560 try to address some of that. Well. 0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:02.960 I think that a huge reason for any success that 0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:05.879 I've had is has been because I am one of 0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:10.200 the only like young male liberal voices on the internet. 0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:12.480 And that was like a hole that I saw and 0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:18.639 was just frustrated by myself because like I like all 0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.399 the characters on the conservative side as characters like I 0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:23.840 like to look at their Instagram videos. I think they're 0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.440 so hilarious entertaining, and I get kick out of it 0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:27.679 and I want to know what they're saying and I 0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.720 want to know what's going on there because I find 0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:37.479 it just interesting and they're effective, I think, I mean, 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.880 I just think it's like this may sound reductive and dumb, 0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:42.880 but I think if Democrats could do better on talking 0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.400 about the economy, then they would probably also do better 0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:47.960 with young men. And I think that a lot of 0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:51.880 the social media stuff that I see online, it's like 0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:56.280 a convergence between like you know, working out slash ice 0:28:56.360 --> 0:29:02.840 Bath and Crypto and like like other hacks, and it's 0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.840 kind of all about like performance and an optimization, which 0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:07.600 is like a great thing. 0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:10.120 Well, well, Gavin Marshawn's a younger culture. He can tell 0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:12.720 you from his aspect because I don't, like I said, 0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.680 I mean to me, you almost have to really have 0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:19.320 the talking points, and I don't know, you know, Trump 0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.040 does it geniusly, of course in terms of you know 0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:24.280 what he says, people buying, but Marshawn, coming you're in 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:26.080 your point of view, I think it's. 0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.760 Just more so because like it's almost like when you 0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:32.160 speaks like Trump speak to Trump, speak to the people 0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.400 you have. You have a lot of situations where it's 0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:39.080 almost like now when you look at it, like being 0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:42.000 a masculine man, like that's a that's a bad thing 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:44.560 with all of the shit that's going on, Like oh, 0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:47.400 you need to be talking about your emotions and your feelings, 0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:49.440 getting in touch with this and getting in touch with that. 0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:54.160 And Dan, if you say a certain thing about yeah, 0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:58.280 I mean certain group of people, motherfuckers look at you like, oh, 0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:00.320 fuck him, he's not right and wh how did he 0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:03.800 say that? And then you got the council culture. And 0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:06.280 then you got individuals who, you know what I mean, 0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:08.400 see the change in the world, and it's like okay 0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:12.000 from a man, like Okay, this is what the women is, 0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.520 this is what they accepting, this is what they like, 0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.000 this is what they're saying. Then as a man, you're 0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:19.840 gonna plan to that because you gonna want the woman. 0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:27.080 So therefore it'll start to uh decline. And then you 0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:30.360 get more individuals who you know, fall in line with 0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:36.280 was the uh politically correct way to be as a man. 0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.720 And if you you know what I mean, you stand 0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:40.880 up and you stand on what the fuck you feel 0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.760 then oh, no, fuck you, we ain't fucking with you 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:46.120 no more. We don't like you. And you know what I mean, 0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:51.120 It's kind of like if you are a fucking alpha male, 0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:55.960 you're a bad guy, and you have Trump that speak 0:30:56.400 --> 0:31:00.520 to those bad guys and then he'll tell, oh, yeah, 0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:02.600 we're gonna get you some money too. Oh shit, Now 0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.840 I'm really listening to what you say. All of that 0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:07.960 other ship you was in, or if you racist or 0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.240 you we think you that way, and but hold on, 0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:13.080 you stand up for being a being a man and 0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:15.360 you're Finnah, give me a couple of dollars by all year. 0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:16.120 I rock with that. 0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:17.760 So I mean, you know, it's just the way that 0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:22.560 you know, people retain or receive information, And like you said, 0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.120 he a genius when he do it, and he speaks 0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.240 to that demographic of people. So you know what I mean, 0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:29.720 you get an understanding from that. 0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.640 Jack what I mean. It's interesting and I appreciate what 0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:35.800 marshauns saying because I think you know this this kind 0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:41.760 of this backlash to this emphasis around toxic masculinity and 0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:44.440 that kind of ship, and I mean it's interesting and 0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:46.719 I get your point in sort of the it's sort 0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:51.280 of us pushback against you know, I don't know what 0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.560 they sort of what would be perceived. I don't want 0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:54.400 to play into the frame. 0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.440 But just even that, you have to be aware and 0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:00.800 conscious of what the fuck you say, because had you 0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:03.040 said what the fuck I thought you was gonna say, 0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:07.000 then from some angle or some kind of fucking way, 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.240 then they own fuck Gavin Newson. He said blah blah blah, 0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:12.160 bah blah blah blah, and this that and the third. 0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:15.760 So therefore, in your mind, you played that shit real quickly. 0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:18.680 Hold on, maybe I might, I might not want to. 0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:19.440 Go down that road. 0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.920 They may save me. But what I mean, Jay, you 0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:24.440 you've been thinking about this. Man, to your point, that's 0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:26.040 a hell of a statement. I never thought about it. 0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.440 You're exactly and by the way, as someone as a 0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:30.480 student of this, I never really even put it together. 0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.760 You are one of the few liberal sort of young 0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:37.840 male voices out there that's ubiquitous online. You're one hundred 0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:42.400 percent it's dominant in sort of a hard right conservative 0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.480 for a construct anyway, what do you think of what 0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:47.200 Marshaun said, Man, I mean. 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.920 I think that there's so much truth to that, and 0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:54.000 like so much of it is kind of like not 0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:57.800 rational but like emotional, and we all kind of can 0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.000 feel it and know what's going on, but it's hard 0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.920 to it's hard to come up with like a linear 0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.120 story as to like, oh, well, like young men feel 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:08.520 this and therefore we need to talk to them differently. 0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:14.200 I think, like, personally, I think risk taking behavior online 0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:17.960 is attractive to people. And I think that I've taken 0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:21.400 risks with being like silly or punny, but I think 0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:26.280 like taking risks is something that people respect either way, 0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:30.080 and I think that I think it's a hard thing 0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.240 to do in politics, and there's a lot of reasons 0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:36.360 not to take any risks. I think you have to, 0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.520 especially if you want to do anything about this problem, 0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:41.280 which is going to be a problem going forward. I 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:43.360 feel like that's what I'm like, Oh man, if we 0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:45.440 lost like all these young guys this time, it's going 0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:48.400 to be hard to get them back. I mean, we 0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.000 obviously can be done. But anyway, that's just kind of 0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:51.600 how I see it. 0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:54.360 But you know, assent on the on the gender gap, Gavin, 0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:56.320 This is funny, Jack. So, a couple of nights ago, 0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:59.520 my my freshman in high school daughter had a volleyball 0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.480 game and one of her teammates, you know, got a 0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:04.680 spike and kind of got in the other team's face 0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:08.200 and the coach's face and whatnot. Nothing like crazy, but 0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:12.040 you know, kind of got showed emotion and which to me, 0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:15.080 I think is great because men have been doing that 0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:19.560 for fifty years. Okay, well from that game the other night, 0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:24.960 there's been a backlash in regards to parents, calling the ad, 0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:27.719 calling the principal. I can't believe this girl did this, 0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:32.000 did that. It's like, dude, like Draymond Green doesn't show emotion, 0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:35.480 Dennis Robin didn't show emotion, Lebron Steph Curry night night. 0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.920 But a girl does it now and the community is in. 0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:42.440 Uproar because she spiked the ball, showed some emotion and 0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:42.799 all that. 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:44.560 So we're still going back. 0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.560 And this is when you know, female sports want to 0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:50.319 be paid the same and all the same stuff. But 0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.400 now you have a community of parents and people thinking 0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:55.840 the emotion of a female is wrong. 0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:57.400 And which I thought was total bullshit. 0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.320 So I called the family, say screw them, you know 0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:00.840 what I mean, And I'm gonna go tell the A 0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:04.279 D and principal go after themselves too. But like that's 0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.840 where we're at still, Gavin, and it sucks because it 0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:10.040 shouldn't be right. But going back to the Trump, like 0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.160 Moreshawn said, you know, he's just gonna say one way, 0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:14.799 people like, okay, cool, you know what. 0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:16.879 I mean, fresh, let me help you, let me help 0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:20.080 you out. Now say it with no. Now, that's that's 0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.359 where you get the haters at. And then that's where 0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:24.799 you got to say these two famous words. Come on now, 0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:28.880 come on now, you got to say like this, fuck you. 0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:32.600 They screw your ship. They don't understand. You got to 0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.000 hit him with the fuck you. When you get a 0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:38.040 hater on line, you gotta get him with the fuck you. 0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:42.400 Yes, amen, just then. And then the school's president was 0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:43.640 a nun, So I didn't want to tell. 0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.759 The none that. No, you're not gonna tell it none 0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:48.880 that and None's scared that he I mean, that's uh. 0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:53.200 I got some pts from Maname barget back in the day. 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:56.600 That's another conversation, by the way, just hey, uh, you 0:35:56.640 --> 0:36:00.840 know it's without getting too far off, we were just discussing, 0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.479 which I think is a profoundly. I think if there's 0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:07.080 one thing after this election that could be determinative, meaning 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:10.200 in terms of the outcome of the election and move 0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:14.320 the needle even a marginal way, but enough to actually 0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:16.960 tip the balance in the direction of Trump and may 0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:19.440 be in this space, so I think it will be 0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:23.120 one of the most analyzed and considered conversations, so I 0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:25.600 don't want to short change it. At the same time, Man, Jack, 0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:28.719 I'm curious because I appreciate your sort of reverence to 0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.239 public service. You speak to public service. I think what 0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.799 you're doing is a public service by willing to use 0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:38.080 your voice, use your platform, and engage in an authentic way, 0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.719 in an inviting way, as you say, taking risks, which 0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:43.560 I totally appreciate, and not playing by the traditional rules 0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.880 in that respect. But it begs the question, man, especially 0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:49.759 it's an impossible question for you to avoid because you 0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.479 get it all the time. And I'm personally curious. I mean, 0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:55.960 you know, with all the toxicity that is politics, one 0:36:56.000 --> 0:37:00.160 thing public service, but sort of putting yourself out there 0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:03.759 more formally in the role as candidate, I mean, is 0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:06.920 that something you aspire to or something you deeply you 0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:08.719 know it's just like the last thing you want to 0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:09.400 get involved with. 0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:12.920 I feel like I don't want to like give a 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:16.400 bullshit answer, because but it's this isn't a bullsh answermance. 0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:19.319 I like, actually don't plan I try to plant too 0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:21.719 far ahead because I think that that always gets me 0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.799 like messed up into my own head. And so like, 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.239 for better or worse, I've loved politics and followed it 0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:32.520 incredibly closely since I was like ten, and I just 0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:35.160 loved it and I went, you know, and there's something 0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:39.839 I can do about it. So I feel like this 0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:41.520 has been a really interesting way to try to come 0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:46.000 up with my own whatever, my own path into doing 0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.120 something about it. And I feel like I just kind 0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.600 to keep trying to stay in the pocket and take 0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:54.759 advantage of the opportunities that seem good. But I mean 0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:55.840 I would be lying to you if I said I 0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:57.440 never thought about it and I didn't think that it 0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:59.800 was an incredible uh career, And I mean if so 0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:02.920 much admiration for you and what you've done, and I mean, 0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.680 how could you not want to do that out of it? 0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:09.439 It's an incredible thing to do. But I really don't 0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:18.520 try to planty for our head. 0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.680 Well, Jack, you're you're a rock star, and you should 0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:28.719 plan a head because you got a huge future and. 0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.920 No you say you you say you've been following politics 0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:33.720 since she was ten years old. 0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.480 Oh yeah, I just love that. It's so brilliant. 0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.000 That's that's crazy, because you know what I mean, when 0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:40.680 you start, you know what i mean, thinking about it 0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:44.840 from a standpoint like you know, I'm pretty sure this 0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:48.000 is something that's in the household, like you've been you 0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:49.799 know what i mean, getting you know what I mean, 0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:54.360 talk this from a very early age, like in my 0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:57.880 community and with my background, that's not something like that. 0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:00.680 We hold court in the house, you know what I mean. 0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:02.480 So when you think about it, and then you know, 0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:04.400 you get put in this position and now it's like, 0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.200 oh shit, I'm on here with the government, like we're 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.319 gonna be talking about politics and all this kind of shit, 0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.960 and just to think like how far behind I am 0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:15.279 on eight ball with it comes to this type of shit. 0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:18.120 And then we get somebody on here you're probably younger 0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:20.000 than me, and shit, and you start talking about like, yeah, 0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.960 you've been in this since like ten years old type 0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:26.960 shit like that's that's that's fucking crazy to me, Like 0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.680 to think like while I was ten years old and 0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:32.719 I'm trying to you know, I mean, flip up the 0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:34.480 couch to see if I could, you know, I mean, 0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:36.400 get a quarter so I could go outside and go 0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:41.360 buy twenty five cent icy from the lady upstairs. You actually, you. 0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:43.719 Know what I mean, I was doing. I was doing 0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:47.040 a lot of things that not where that weren't politics also, 0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:49.480 so I messed around a lot. But yeah, I don't know. 0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:51.920 I feel like, did in your family play football? Am 0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:53.320 I wrong? Like people in your family? 0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:56.440 I'm uh, yeah, one of my uncles did. But I mean, 0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:58.920 you know, when you in that space, you know what 0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:00.520 I mean, it's not like I'm and you know, he 0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.560 you know, go over to you know, wherever he's playing 0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.640 that so it's not like he's actually in the household 0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:09.759 with me to give me is am on what's going on? 0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:12.720 And at the time, like when you in that space, 0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.600 like you know what I mean, in this your livelihood, 0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:20.239 like you kind of like in this like what we 0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:22.799 call it right now, we call it like Disneyland. You're 0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:25.560 in this Disneyland fairy tale to where when you're in 0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:28.640 the league, it's like this is this is this is 0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:31.959 law to me? And then what's going on back at home, 0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:34.520 Like oh, when I get the off season and I'm 0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:37.000 not traveling with my family and this. Then I go 0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:39.320 home and it's more so like, oh, it's a celebration 0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:42.520 because you know, un home, like oh yeah, we you know, 0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:44.279 I mean, we only got so much time with him. 0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:46.600 It ain't like we really just get the Hey, so 0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:48.359 what is it like this like this and we really 0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:51.520 get the high at him? Man, figure out like what 0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:55.319 that actually looks like? So damn that shit is just 0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:57.120 like you know what I mean, it it be mind 0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:58.640 blowing to me when you you know what I mean, 0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:00.640 you talk to people and it's like, you know the 0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:02.719 issues and the ship that's going on now, and then 0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:05.239 you find out like, oh, well you grew up like this, 0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:07.799 you've been in this shit, there's been something that you've 0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:10.360 been talking about. And then it's like you know, somebody 0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:12.520 like me who you know, it really didn't make a 0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:16.520 difference to me until you know, I started, uh, you know, 0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:18.400 playing in the league, and then I'm getting hit with 0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:22.760 all these fucking taxes and I mean all this extra 0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:25.319 shit that I had no fucking idea about, and then 0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:29.160 fighter and all these motherfuckers I see, ah, my goddamn check, 0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:33.200 and I'm like, who the fuck? Who the fuck is fighter, Like, 0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:36.919 who the fuck is why is this getting so much 0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:40.879 money the mind and I did not see this motherfucker 0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:43.560 shooting in the gym, Like who the fuck is it? 0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:46.800 And they taking you feel me though? They getting Gwalid. 0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:49.160 It's fascinated in the backgrounds Jack, I mean what he's 0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:51.359 saying it compare you grow. I mean it's crazy right 0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:52.560 and Marshaun is real. 0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:56.040 Yeah, but the irony is Jack, he's bullshit. This is 0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:59.279 the guy's preparing to run for mayor of Oakland. Jack, Yeah, 0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:04.319 that's your political career. This guy is out there, you know. Yeah, 0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:07.439 I'm on to you. Marshawn, I'm on to you, brother, But. 0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:09.279 Look at but look at the gap in there though, 0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:13.200 Like shit, I I was twenty. I was twenty when 0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:16.160 I when I got drafted, and you feel me. So 0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:19.280 it's like for a whole twenty year, I ain't nobody 0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:21.279 worried about all that shit. It's just like, you know what, 0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:24.080 I mean, what's up now? When you start thinking about it, 0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:27.720 like okay, in a sense the way we talked about 0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:30.880 you know, I mean, these issues, it was oh you 0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:34.040 know what, oh man, the government is playing like we 0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:37.160 ain't get our you know section eight. You know what 0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:40.640 I mean, welfare wig, you know what I mean, Banana. 0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:46.200 It's like all of the government funded up programs that 0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:48.480 you know there is to go and sign up for, 0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:50.759 like you know, I mean, I remember standing in the 0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:52.480 line with my mama to you know what I mean, 0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:54.160 to get like Mama, while we here, why were you 0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:56.960 take you so long? And then we come out of there, 0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:59.359 My mama hella mad, like, oh they fucked up. They 0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:00.920 you know what I mean, ain't saying I didn't fill 0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.239 out this paperwork right and out I this, that and 0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:05.719 the third so I can't get my foodston And hell, 0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:09.719 it's like hold on what so what that means that 0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:11.919 it's gonna be a little hard, you know what I mean, 0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:14.680 to get some food put on the uh on the 0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:17.319 table until we figure out you know, what's going on 0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:19.880 type shit. And it's like oh, but at the end 0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.080 of the day, it's not like, you know, Mom's just 0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:25.640 going and like, well, look, this is who the motherfucking 0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:28.640 Mary is, This is who the governor is, this is 0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:31.399 the you know, they just passed the bill and they 0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:34.120 just passed the law that you know what I mean. 0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:36.000 It wasn't like that. It was just like man, the 0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:39.440 government fucking up. So in my mind it's like, man, 0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:41.520 fuck the government. Why the fuck they ain't trying to 0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:44.000 they ain't trying to have me and Mom's eg Like, man, 0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:46.320 I got brothers and sister that needed. So then it 0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.080 forced you to go and do some shit that ended 0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:52.400 up putting you in a position where you're gonna do 0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:55.719 some shit that might ultimately when you're thinking at a 0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:57.400 young age, it ain't like, Oh, I want to go 0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.600 do some bad shit. It's like, oh no, I want 0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:01.759 to go do some ya I mean to get some 0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:04.080 money to put on my fucking to put some food 0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:06.560 on my table. And then you feem me, you get 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.640 jammed up, and it's like, oh, well, now you're gonna 0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:11.800 be fucked off for the rest of your life because 0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:14.319 now you got what it's called a record, And with 0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:18.759 this record, you can't go and apply to certain type 0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:22.520 of jobs because you have this record. You can't go 0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:25.799 and get X, Y and Z, because you know what, 0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:30.400 when you went and did your taxes, you made a 0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:33.399 couple dollars more than what the limit is, and now 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:39.959 you can't get government funded, government funded. 0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:43.120 Any of the programs. Yeah, you're no longer eligible. 0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:45.480 So what the fuck am I going to do right now? 0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:49.239 But it doesn't come. It doesn't come to us. It's like, Okay, yeah, 0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:52.200 this is why you going, this is why you're going vote, 0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:54.399 This is why you looking to You know what I mean, 0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:58.840 who is gonna be representing your Yo city? This is 0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:01.880 your Yo Yo state? You know, I mean, the motherfucker 0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:05.399 who running the goddamn hole? Uh? You ask and all 0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:06.960 this shit, and then you know what I mean, when 0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:08.920 you start thinking about it, it's like, fuck. 0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:11.880 You know what I love about Marshawn? What I love 0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:14.960 about what Jack's doing in particular, He's taking all those 0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:18.480 things and instead of putting in a negative frames, he's 0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:20.879 reminding everybody all these things do matter. I mean, he's 0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:25.120 focused on issues around gun safety, climate where Jack's next 0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:27.400 level in terms of his support of addressing the issues 0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:30.440 of climate change, things that impact this next generation, but 0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:34.720 also giving them a pathway to positively engage and feel 0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:37.520 like they have a voice in the process. And that's 0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:41.680 I think one of the most significant contributions that Jack 0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:44.120 has made to this generation that does feel like I 0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:46.960 think you express your generation feels kind of locked out 0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:50.560 of that doesn't feel represented, and so I just think 0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:55.040 it's one of the things that makes Jack's work so special. 0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:57.120 By the way, just on that, Jack, I mean we 0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:00.640 you know, you decided as well just to amplify that 0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.560 a little bit. And marshallt of you know that just interesting. 0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:08.359 Jack partner with Vogue magazine, which is just interesting, and 0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:10.840 You're like, what are you a spokesperson for Vogue Now. 0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:13.160 I'm their first ever political contributor. 0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.720 It was that your idea, their idea, and why Vogue 0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:19.520 versus you know, maxim or something. 0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:25.120 Well, I Vogue has a great, great reputation, and I 0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:30.400 think that why I was excited was because honestly, not 0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:32.839 only are they like great and do a great job 0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:34.880 and are great people the people I work with, who 0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:38.080 I can't say enough great things about, but also they 0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:42.279 have like a huge, huge, huge social media you know, 0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:44.640 they have like fifty million followers on their Instagram for example. 0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:46.600 And I was like, okay, well, this is like I 0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:48.680 gotta limit my focus, like I am doing like social 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:53.000 media videos about politics. This cannot be a better fit. 0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:58.919 And because it's not so DC politics like heavy, they're 0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:02.279 like a little bit more creativity to do interesting things, 0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:03.880 I think. But I just also want to say that. 0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:06.680 I think, Marshawn, you deserve a lot of credit because 0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:09.120 a lot of people who have public profiles do not 0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:11.919 say anything or do anything or risk take any risks 0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:15.360 at all. And I think it's awesome that you are involved, 0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:19.120 specifically minded person, and I think that I think you know, 0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:22.920 you are such a good example to so many people 0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:27.319 that politics can is open to people who are who 0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:28.879 we admire for other reasons as well. 0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:31.880 So I just wanted to Jack had a question for you. 0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:34.720 I I literally and thank you for saying that to Marshawn, 0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:37.920 because Marshawn's always been There's no one realer than him. 0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:42.160 I've idolized your uncle. Literally, I grew up idolizing JFK Jr. 0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:46.120 Let me ask you a question if that accident didn't happen, 0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:47.840 do you think he would have been president? 0:47:47.960 --> 0:47:49.960 To term president? Where do you think he'd be today? 0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:51.040 Looking back? 0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:54.640 I mean, he's fascinating to me his life and what 0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:57.480 he did and who he was and it was unbelievable. 0:47:57.520 --> 0:47:59.320 And this is pre social media and whatnot. 0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:01.319 But we're do you look back and see where he 0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:02.880 would be today if he was still alive? 0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:05.880 I mean, so like I didn't he was like I 0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:07.320 was five or six when he died, so I didn't 0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:10.480 know him. I will say this, like he was clearly 0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:12.560 so far ahead of his time in terms of creating 0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:16.920 George Magazine and blending politics and media and fashion and humor. 0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:20.520 And I feel like somehow, I like stumbled into something 0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:24.880 on my own that maybe resembles what he was, like 0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:27.920 had his finger on. But I think he definitely he 0:48:28.080 --> 0:48:31.279 like had such a a knack and a feel for 0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.120 politics and media especially, and I only know that just 0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:35.800 from the clips I've seen of him. I feel so 0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:38.600 lucky because it's like you were saying, like I grew up, 0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:40.479 you know, loving politics. But it wasn't like we sat 0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:42.200 around and talked about the dinner table. It was like 0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:46.040 I have, like my grandparents and my uncles. There's like 0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:49.520 the volumes of books and recorded speeches that I got 0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:52.560 to learn from about them like everybody else can. And 0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:54.560 I think that that was a really cool way for 0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:57.360 me to interact with with my family, that John's included 0:48:57.400 --> 0:48:59.239 in that, and just kind of trying to understand them 0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:02.319 as as we all do and try to draw whatever 0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:05.920 lessons we can from them. Now. But I know, I 0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:08.720 feel really lucky that way, because there's like a massive 0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:12.200 public record of my whole family too, so I'll never 0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:12.960 forget anything. 0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:15.440 You know, Jack, what I love about your family is 0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:17.840 it goes back to what Marshawn was just saying and 0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:21.799 expressing his own lived experience in relationship to politics and 0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:25.160 what it didn't mean until it mattered, and then you're 0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:28.560 sort of you're kicking, you know, you're kicking and screaming 0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:31.920 because you're pissed off the government's not necessarily representing your interests. 0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:34.759 But I love one thing that in Marshaan, I think 0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:38.040 this is sort of interesting to have Jack with us. 0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:44.440 Everything that Jack's grandfather his brother Bobby were about, we're 0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:49.120 about addressing exactly what you just described in your live condition. 0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:49.399 Man. 0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:52.160 Literally, if I if I went back you look at 0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:57.120 the speeches of Jack Kennett Bobby Kennedy, They literally describe 0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:02.359 what you just described and very personal raw ways your 0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:08.080 lived experience and how government needs to represent the realities 0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:11.560 that lived experience that people were having. And in so 0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:15.399 many ways I was I was particularly evocative that I'm 0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:18.759 listening to you here we are with Jack having that 0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:21.920 conversation and thinking about the spirit of the Kennedys and 0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:24.600 the spirit of the sixties ignorance, sollving for ignorance and 0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:28.360 poverty and disease and the spirit of public service and 0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:31.279 and so anyway, it's do I get emotional about this 0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:34.719 because literally, this is the family. I wouldn't be here 0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:37.960 in politics. I was inspired by this family, inspired by 0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:41.600 sars Shreiver uh and and and this idea of public 0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:44.920 service and what public what being a public service a 0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:49.520 servant should represent and uh and So I really appreciate 0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:52.000 and I do, And I thanks Jack for mentioning Marshawn's 0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:55.040 you know, willingness to put himself out in political terms 0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:57.239 too with I mean, I don't know how serious we're 0:50:57.239 --> 0:50:59.120 trying to figure out. Maybe Jack, you can ask him 0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:01.600 how serious is about this damn mayor's race. 0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:03.480 So that's what I was just finna get I was 0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:05.440 just finna get to so what it just sounded like 0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:08.680 to me, you feel me in my interpretation, And what 0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:11.319 you just said was I'm gonna make a hell of 0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:13.520 a mayor, my boy, That's what it sounded like to me. 0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:16.520 But that's what I heard you say. I heard you say, 0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:18.640 ay more, Sean brother, Hey, check this out a little Nick, 0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:22.080 you gonna be a saucy ass mayor bro, So just 0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:24.680 get ready for when that motherfucking time comes. 0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:27.960 Oh man, I think he just answered the question. Jack Jesus, 0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:28.840 this guy's running. 0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:31.120 I wouldn't want to run against you, Marshawn. 0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:34.000 Nobody would, nobody would Jackie Right. 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.759 No, I'm just saying because many you know, like and 0:51:37.840 --> 0:51:39.839 this is and this is where my you know, I mean, 0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:43.200 you just said my ignorance hant all that shit gonna 0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:46.160 kick in. But I just feel like, you know, I mean, 0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:48.920 I got somebody who who's done it, you know what 0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:51.360 I mean, who's at the top of the game, you 0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:53.400 know what I mean, and they really got to like 0:51:53.400 --> 0:51:55.440 they got a stronghold on it, you feel me. And 0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:57.080 then you know, I mean I get to talk to 0:51:57.160 --> 0:51:58.880 him on a day to day basis, you know, I 0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:01.279 mean week the week, you know, I mean, and it's 0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:04.920 not just some made up ship like I mean, me 0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:07.680 and me and Batman. We had these conversations before we 0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:10.000 even had this. This is how this ship even came 0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:12.200 to you know what I mean, came to life. Like 0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:16.719 this wasn't my idea, Like this motherfucker called me where 0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:18.640 I was at. It was tune in the morning. You 0:52:18.640 --> 0:52:20.520 feel me, And I'm like, man, get your ass off 0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:23.759 my phone, like quit playing with me? Hung up on him? 0:52:23.800 --> 0:52:25.960 He called me back like, nah, Bro, you don't hear 0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:28.480 what I'm talking about, Like, oh, are you serious? Like 0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:30.880 who gave you the green like to do this? You 0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:32.920 know what type of I am? Bro? You feel me? 0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:36.799 I A no, We're gonna do it. So I got 0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:38.759 somebody in my corner that you feel me though. 0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:43.280 Hey, I got a better one for Jack. You're gonna 0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:46.520 take that Balboa hat. You're gonna fly out West. You're 0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.720 gonna come to Balboa Cafe with me and Mark, Shawn 0:52:49.760 --> 0:52:53.960 and Gavin, and we're gonna and we're gonna bring We're 0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:55.279 gonna whiteboard some things. 0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:56.440 Jack. You're gonna get a. 0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:59.640 White board Jack's political career because he didn't say no, Doug, 0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:02.440 And here that son of a bitch say no, no, no. 0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:03.040 Here's the deal. 0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:03.879 We got. 0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:06.240 We got we got great things. We got Jack going 0:53:06.320 --> 0:53:08.359 for we got Jack doing some great things. We got 0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:11.239 more Sean doing some great things again. I'm Kaiser Sosi. 0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:13.839 I'm a fictional character. I don't exist Jack. But here's 0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:16.279 the deal. We're gonna have some great food and wine 0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:18.520 that drinks at the Balboa Cafe. Have a great time 0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:21.719 and uh and and we're gonna we're gonna create some 0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:22.600 great things ahead of us. 0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:23.960 How about that? Jack? Can we can? We can? 0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:24.479 We can? 0:53:24.520 --> 0:53:25.200 We invite you for that? 0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:25.520 Jack? 0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:28.320 Oh my god, I'm there. I'm on the next plane. 0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:29.360 Are kidding me? 0:53:29.800 --> 0:53:30.120 Love it? 0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:31.000 Love it? 0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:35.600 Well, appreciate you being on every damn uh social feed 0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:38.400 that I've got. You're You're ubiquitous, man, You're crushing it. 0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:41.719 Uh and you're reinventing the art. And I appreciate the 0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:45.200 blend of humor uh and taking the best of Marshaan's 0:53:45.719 --> 0:53:48.960 the spirit of Marshawn Lynch and Doug and their authenticity 0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:52.360 that they bring to the conversation, your wildness, your willingness 0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:55.360 to take risks, and and the courage that is a 0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:58.600 big part of that, particularly at a time where politics 0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:00.960 is as rough as it's been in a long time. 0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:03.080 So it's been great to be with you, brother. 0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:03.440 Thank you. 0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:07.200 I appreciate it genuinely, so much fun to do this, 0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:11.520 and I truly admire your service. Governor Doug, thank you 0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:15.160 so much for making this so fun. And Marshawn, like 0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:18.120 you're the coolest person ever. I already knew that now, 0:54:19.680 --> 0:54:22.840 so appreciate bout my heart. Thank you guys, it's all mutual. 0:54:22.960 --> 0:54:24.120 And thanks for the kind words. 0:54:24.280 --> 0:54:24.560 Thank you. 0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:26.200 And by the way, Jack, I'm gonna send you a 0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:28.680 Politicket hat to Politicken. 0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:29.000 Hat too, Sick. 0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:29.840 I'll get you. 0:54:30.560 --> 0:54:32.279 I can't take this one off. No, I can't take 0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:32.680 that off. 0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:35.040 You got more hair than me, though, Jack, I got 0:54:35.120 --> 0:54:35.840 to get my hair. 0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:36.319 Back you. 0:54:38.600 --> 0:54:42.680 Over that real game keeps thing. Brother, what shaw? 0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:44.040 There you go. I'm gonna put the hat on. Now, 0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:44.560 there you go. 0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:47.480 Thank you, brother, I appreciate you.