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Speaker 1: If called to serve by b Smote himself. How could

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Speaker 2: Man? What's handed? Man? You got Marshawn, Besma Lynch, Doug Hendrickson.

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Speaker 3: And Gavin Knewsome and you're listening to politics.

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Speaker 2: You ain't going to be You're known to be.

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Speaker 4: Marshaun. How's a hit trailer of new movie coming out?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 4: That's the talk of the world.

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Speaker 3: Trailers get to be hits.

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Speaker 5: It's the talk of the world this new movie.

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Speaker 2: Leave it up to Doug. Man.

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Speaker 3: I notice you're a shitty shot, buddy. You can't even

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Speaker 3: take the guy out. You know, you're not how to

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Speaker 3: use a gun. The hell's going on, marsha.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you man, they trying to ban the

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Speaker 2: guns and count in the States right now. So I

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Speaker 2: ain't been able to give my practice up man, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. And that little motherfucker was fast

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Speaker 2: as ship. Kei kwan. He fast as ship?

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Speaker 3: Who's that actor?

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Speaker 2: Who is he?

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Speaker 3: He's a great actor. He's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like he like fifty four years old. And

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Speaker 2: this little bitty ass was doing all his own stunts

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Speaker 2: and shit. And I'm like, God, damn, I just hope

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Speaker 2: all this stunt like he get up, he do all

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Speaker 2: doing that, like you know, when I was grabbing him

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Speaker 2: and throwing him, He's like, no, actually, like really grab

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't know about really hitting you, bro,

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Speaker 2: Can we just do a really good job at acting

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Speaker 2: like it because you hell are small? Like no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I can take it.

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Speaker 3: Just try it.

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Speaker 2: So I hit his ass one time and he was like, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, Marshan, I was thinking like, uh, maybe we

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Speaker 5: Well, all I know, Gavin is that you and I

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Speaker 5: Theater in Hollywood for the premiere.

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Speaker 3: The Red Carpet, the Red Card Carpet.

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Speaker 5: And last time I was there when I did Angel

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Speaker 5: had seven lines.

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Speaker 2: Look at this guy.

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Speaker 4: I had lines, boy, go to the true Story, I

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Speaker 5: During the movie, I keep saying, like, my scene's about

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Speaker 5: at the end of the movie, I go to Irbie Smith,

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Speaker 5: real real famous uh Disney director, and I go, Erbie,

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Speaker 5: you're killing me. I bring my buddy. I go to

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Speaker 5: the premiere and I said, where are my lines? And

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Speaker 5: he said, Doug, welcome to Hollywood. We had to cut

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Speaker 3: I was an extra in Sister Act and I think

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Speaker 3: I got cut, though I claimed that my hand may

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Speaker 3: have been in it. So if there's a mysterious hand

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Speaker 3: walking by, that was mine.

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Speaker 2: Was you singing? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What are you kidding? I rushed to the theaters to

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Speaker 3: the hell is this? Two days on the set as

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Speaker 3: an extra. It's a big moment for me. Man. I

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Speaker 4: Hey Jack, how you doing, Bud?

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody?

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Speaker 3: Great to be here.

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Speaker 1: Hey Governor, good to.

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Speaker 3: Be here with you. I appreciate Marshaun. You you're almost

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Speaker 3: You're almost better dressed than Jack is today. He's all casual.

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Speaker 3: You're looking good, Jack, Well.

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Speaker 1: Well, Governor, I had to show you my hat. What's

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Speaker 1: your is like? My oldest hat. I wear it every

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Speaker 1: day and it's a Balbo cafe. My best friend gave

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Speaker 3: This is the best guess we've had. This is our guy.

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Speaker 2: What the hell?

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Speaker 3: Where'd you get that? Seriously, where'd you get My best friend.

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Speaker 1: Gave it to me for my birth We have a

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Speaker 3: Jesus, I didn't even know that man.

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Speaker 2: I did not know that at Echelon?

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Speaker 5: What what is that of Govin's Bori Moore sean below

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Speaker 5: man Balboa Cafe in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: I thought he said bubble. I say, I don't know

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Speaker 2: that one. That must be the upper eche line.

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Speaker 3: I love it. By the way, tell me Jack, you

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Speaker 3: know put all damn mayonnaise on every single thing?

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Speaker 1: You feel like, I'm like, oh my god, I'm mister

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Speaker 1: mayonnaise right now. Yeah, I actually really do mean all

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Speaker 1: of it. I love mayonnaise. I think it just makes

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Speaker 2: Man, I'll throw up if I hate that.

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 3: Dude, it's even worse than you think. Jack literally orders pizzas.

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Speaker 1: Bro Yeah, I put it on pizza well because it's

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: But Jack, this miracle whip does miracle whip constant? I'm

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Speaker 4: a miracle.

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Speaker 1: I ain't mayonnaise. I mean Helman's Man, I love my

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that shit is terrible.

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Speaker 3: Oh that ain't right. I don't even understand that there

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Speaker 3: are a lot of anti mayonnaise people out there. Jack,

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Speaker 3: you see are losing folks.

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Speaker 1: Listen, it's it's I'm prepared for this fight. It's a

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Speaker 5: Well, Jack, we're on her because you know, Gavin and

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Speaker 5: I are just state school, public school kids, but we're

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Speaker 5: on or having two Ivy League guys there, Marshawn being

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Speaker 3: Princeton trust yeah with a wink and or no Princeton,

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Speaker 3: but he does have a certificate somehow he got it.

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Speaker 2: Not somehow, man, you know, I put in work for

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Speaker 3: But Marshan, I mean, Jack's got this. I don't know

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Speaker 3: he went to I had to look him up the thing.

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Speaker 3: What's something called Yale? And what was the other one?

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Speaker 3: Doug starts with an h like.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't Home, It wasn't Humboldt, State, wasn't nick Hard

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, you got to you gotta get

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Speaker 2: him right when they do that, because you know they

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Speaker 2: gonna play this. We went to public school and state school.

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Speaker 2: And she said, what makes Marshan?

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Speaker 1: What do we do? What do I say?

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Speaker 2: You got to? No, you got to just make sure

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Speaker 2: you tighten them up. You feel me. You got to

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Speaker 2: get them together and let him know what type of

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Speaker 2: because it sounds like there you go. Did you heard university?

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Speaker 4: Who's ever said you university?

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Speaker 3: I never haven't heard of Harvard, but not Harvard University.

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Speaker 2: But see, he wants you to know.

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Speaker 1: I want you to know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he want you to know.

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Speaker 1: Marshaun. I just got to say this. I'm a huge

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Speaker 1: fan of yours and I think you're so cool. And

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Speaker 1: uh yeah a long time and skittles during the game

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Speaker 1: and anyway, you're just like everything. Yeah, you're a super

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Speaker 2: Know what, I appreciate it, big dog.

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Speaker 5: If Marshawn ends up running for mayor of Oakland, we

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Speaker 5: need you to run his TikTok account because you're pretty

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Speaker 5: good at TikTok speaking. Have you run the TikTok account

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Speaker 5: for Marshawn is the mayor of Oakland?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well, I'm pretty sure Marshawn's got me

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Speaker 1: beat on all things communication. But I'm if if called

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Speaker 1: to serve by be smote himself. How could you say

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Speaker 2: Know what the code party is. I don't even play

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Speaker 2: TikTok though, you feel what I'm saying. But but Doug,

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Speaker 2: I mean Doug, he ain't gonna let you play down nothing.

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Speaker 2: But he did you know? That was one thing that

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Speaker 2: I just probably don't get it. But you enjoy doing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I feel like I for me, it's

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Speaker 2: Well that's crazy, because then you must got it. You

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Speaker 2: must got a pretty good algorithm on there. Because when

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. The butt cheeks really did have

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Speaker 2: my mond, Doug.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what they're even talking about.

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Speaker 5: Well, well, actually, Jack, speaking of TikTok was pretty cool.

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Speaker 5: Is that you call out JD Vance all the time, who,

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Speaker 5: by the way, I think is kind of bizarre, crazy too.

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Speaker 5: But the cool thing is you call him out and

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Speaker 5: in return, Govin gets called out by Trump every day,

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Speaker 5: called new scum. But you're doing it in a cool

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Speaker 5: up by Trump every day new scum. You know, I'll

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Speaker 5: da da da, And it's and it's kind of interesting

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Speaker 5: your TikTok stuff on JD and Gavin can allude on

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Speaker 3: Oh well, but Jack, I mean, but it is it

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Speaker 3: does beg a question, man, I mean, you're not shy

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Speaker 2: fuck going on? So fuck you. I'll fuck you. I'll

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Speaker 2: fuck you up right now. I'll fucking kick your ass, like, man,

438
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Speaker 2: I beat the shit out of you in this airport.

439
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Speaker 2: You got me fucked up, Like oh shit. So when

440
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Speaker 2: I get to Batman, I'm like, hey, bro, you gotta

441
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Speaker 2: you gotta give me some secret service or something. You

442
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Speaker 2: gotta give me some people to come travel with me

443
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Speaker 2: because you know I didn't. It's a different kind of

444
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Speaker 2: beef when you you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Jackie's not He's not bullshitting. He literally

446
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Speaker 3: walked in tells me this story. He's like, Bro, I'm serious,

447
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Speaker 3: I need security. Man. What the hell am I doing

448
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Speaker 3: with you? Why am I even associating?

449
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Speaker 1: Man?

450
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Speaker 2: I'm like, Bro, it's a different kind of beef. Like, Bro,

451
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Speaker 2: you got this from kind of motherfuckers who looking to

452
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Speaker 2: fuck you up and they can't get to you, but

453
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Speaker 2: they could get to me, Like you gotta get me

454
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Speaker 2: some secret service or something. So I'm like, man, you

455
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Speaker 2: know what you being? You know who you aren't thinking?

456
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Speaker 2: Like damn, bro probably got like eighteen security guards somewhere

457
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Speaker 2: in back or to the side of something.

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Speaker 1: You'd be so surprised at how much of a chaotic

459
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Speaker 1: mess my life is.

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Speaker 4: Marshawn.

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Speaker 5: On that note, I'm curious, Gavin, we weren't around then,

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Speaker 5: but like you know, Jack's grandfather when he was president,

463
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Speaker 5: do you think he had the same people that had

464
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Speaker 5: the vitriol Gavin that either if they didn't like him,

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Speaker 5: or did people come up to the guys back then

466
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Speaker 5: and yell at him say stuff or was it more

467
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Speaker 5: of respect factor than it is now? I mean, do

468
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Speaker 5: you any stories you've heard on that jack in terms

469
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Speaker 5: of your round as far as what went on back

470
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Speaker 5: in the day.

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Speaker 1: And like there are the other two boys one And

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Speaker 1: the first point is like it's always been like really

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Speaker 1: difficult in politics, and I think that that's always been true.

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Speaker 1: And it's a mistake to think like it's way worse

475
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Speaker 1: now than it was in the past, because I think

476
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Speaker 1: like a lot of things get glossed over from the past.

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Speaker 3: That were terrible.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: But I think the second point is like there's no

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Speaker 1: denying that things are more heated now than they were

481
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Speaker 1: and people have a much maybe bolder than they were.

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Speaker 1: I feel like something that comes to mind. I don't

483
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Speaker 1: know why. I was a Senate page in high school

484
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Speaker 1: and my uncle Teddy Senator Kennedy, was there, and I

485
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Speaker 1: remember there was a senator who had been elected four

486
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Speaker 1: years ago and he was still waiting to get his

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Speaker 1: first speech on the floor. And that was like the

488
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Speaker 1: old school rules. It was like you weren't allowed to

489
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Speaker 1: talk until just to wait your turn for years and

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Speaker 1: years and years. And I know that today now it's

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Speaker 1: like people go in the first month, and that's kind

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Speaker 1: of maybe that's a good thing, but I think that

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Speaker 1: there is kind of less of a reverence for tradition.

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Speaker 3: Maybe No, it's interesting way, Doug, just the remind you

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Speaker 3: of Marshawn. I mean, Jack's grandfather was one of the

496
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Speaker 3: closest elections in American history, So we were as a

497
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Speaker 3: nation arguably as divided we are today one and it

498
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Speaker 3: was interesting as well. It also was marked, I mean

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Speaker 3: infamously by the impact that media had at the time

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Speaker 3: to elevate a Canada or at least perceived of vetted

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Speaker 3: to candidate. And of course now the changing media environment,

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Speaker 3: Jack is obviously also playing into this where you don't

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Speaker 3: even have no one even cares about giving an eloquent

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Speaker 3: speech on the floor because they can go on one

505
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Speaker 3: of the cable networks and express their grievance and get

506
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Speaker 3: a bunch of viral hits online.

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Speaker 1: Totally, I mean, yeah, I mean, I really do think

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Speaker 1: about this stuff all the time. I mean, what concerns

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Speaker 1: me the most about what I say on the Internet

510
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Speaker 1: and why I really felt like I needed to post

511
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Speaker 1: and why I started posting more was, you know, I

512
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Speaker 1: realized that the only way to combat disinformation is like

513
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Speaker 1: not maybe through government regulation, but through posting your own

514
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Speaker 1: ideas and thoughts and and flooding the space with what

515
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Speaker 1: you think is right, and because otherwise it's just there's

516
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Speaker 1: a limited number of time, a limit number of eyeballs

517
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Speaker 1: people are just going to be watching, and if Trump's

518
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Speaker 1: on there all the time, then like exposure effect over time,

519
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: that works, and so I think, like I think, but

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Speaker 1: then again it's all it's also like a dangerous path.

521
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Speaker 1: You're like, well, now I'm just going to post everything,

522
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Speaker 1: and that's not a healthy mental space to be in either.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like I see a lot of promise

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Speaker 1: with what's going on right now. I feel like young

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Speaker 1: people are like coming up with their own ideas, And

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you've done this, Governor of like filming

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Speaker 1: content with and an influencer who's like kind of obscure

528
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Speaker 1: but because a really loyal following, and then they like,

529
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Speaker 1: that's a really good use of your time. And I

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Speaker 1: think things are kind of decentralizing and a what I

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Speaker 1: think is going to be a good a good pattern.

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Speaker 1: But I'm curious, like how much of since you got elected, Governor,

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Speaker 1: how much it's changed, like in terms of like this year,

534
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Speaker 1: you're making tons of videos, but when you first got elected,

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Speaker 1: that was like not a thing.

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Speaker 3: Now, well, I've just watched I mean, and you know,

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Speaker 3: since my time as lieutenant governor, I'd say there's trend

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Speaker 3: lines now a headline you sort of you see a

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Speaker 3: significant contraction of traditional media. I mean, I just see

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Speaker 3: it in the number of people that show up at

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Speaker 3: a press conference in Sacramento. I go back to the

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Speaker 3: Schwarzenegger days, which were crazy. I mean you look at

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Speaker 3: some of those press conferences, you look at photos, and

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Speaker 3: there it seemed in some cases, I mean, he had

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Speaker 3: over one hundred media outlets at certain times. Of course,

546
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Speaker 3: he was international celebrity in every way. He's not comparable

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Speaker 3: to most, but back in the day, sort of the

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Speaker 3: Reagan days in California, but even more contemporary days, going

549
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Speaker 3: back to Duke Major and Wilson some of the previous governors.

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Speaker 3: You look at the press corps and you see it

551
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Speaker 3: hollowed out, smaller and smaller number of people. But really

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Speaker 3: that accelerant I think went through COVID and then you

553
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Speaker 3: really started to realize that we were you know, that

554
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Speaker 3: we had to sort of in that social space because

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Speaker 3: back to Marshawn's point about the algorithms, feels like we

556
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Speaker 3: were living in two different worlds and we started I

557
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Speaker 3: really started to see things sort of pull away in

558
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Speaker 3: terms of truth and trust, and we weren't having the

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Speaker 3: same conversation. We always were struggling to have the same

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Speaker 3: Walter Cronkite type discussion. But boy, I think that accelerant

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Speaker 3: during COVID and that, you know, is the emergence of TikTok.

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Speaker 3: Obviously a maturation of Instagram and social media more broadly

563
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Speaker 3: dispersed generationally like Facebook as platforms and others, and obviously

564
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Speaker 3: X previously Twitter, but now man, it's it's I mean,

565
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Speaker 3: if you're not in this space fighting for eyeballs and attention,

566
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Speaker 3: then you're not able to You're not effectively communicating. Think

567
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Speaker 3: is one of the reasons we're all doing this podcast

568
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Speaker 3: is just trying to find different angles a way of

569
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Speaker 3: communicating to real people and not having that filter or

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Speaker 3: being in a filter bubble as it were.

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Speaker 5: No, it's funny, Gavin and you guys and I going

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Speaker 5: back to more Shawn the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I'm just here so well could find Jack remember that

574
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Speaker 4: exactly mean that.

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Speaker 5: Then, and and unapologetically Marshawn's always been real. Gavin's always

576
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Speaker 5: done been real, didn't give a ship, And you're the

577
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Speaker 5: same way right now. You could take the high road

578
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 5: and be kind of low key and safe, but you're not.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate that because you know, coming from where you

580
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Speaker 5: came from and you being outspoken and your beliefs is

581
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Speaker 5: really freaking cool.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I mean, I really appreciate that. I feel like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've got a lot to say. I feel

584
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: like things are really this is like a huge moment,

585
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Speaker 1: you know, and and it's easy to get lost in

586
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Speaker 1: the manicha whatever, but it's like this isn't this is

587
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: couldnt be more important and cannot be more more clear.

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Speaker 1: And I think something that I've learned or didn't see

589
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Speaker 1: really coming in the last year is the gender gap

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Speaker 1: that I'm that we're seeing in terms of Democrats losing

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Speaker 1: support among young men and seeing as governor you are

592
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Speaker 1: peak masculine energy. Marshawan seems alphaz like, how do we

593
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Speaker 1: And Doug, of course you and me are both the

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Speaker 1: traditional male alpha, but I'm wondering, like, how do we?

595
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Speaker 1: How do you? How do we break through to God,

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Speaker 1: how do you talk to young men? I mean, governor,

597
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Speaker 1: have you had any success?

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Speaker 3: Now, Jack, I was going to ask you that question.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: We talk about this sort of bro culture online and

601
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Speaker 3: it's a big part of this election. And you know,

602
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 3: and you say, talk about that gender gap. It's next

603
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: level in both both directions, right, Kamala running away in

604
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Speaker 3: a post Dobbs world, particularly around reproductive freedom, but also

605
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 3: just more broadly on women's rights. And obviously Trump is

606
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 3: just sort of dominating in that that Dana White space,

607
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Speaker 3: that sort of Joe roganification of our politics. And you know,

608
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Speaker 3: Joe's pretty moderate compared to some of these other folks

609
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Speaker 3: out there. But I mean, I'm curious to you, I

610
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Speaker 3: mean this, I mean, how what's your feedback in that space?

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Speaker 3: I mean, how are you trying to to sort of

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Speaker 3: try to address some of that. Well.

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Speaker 1: I think that a huge reason for any success that

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Speaker 1: I've had is has been because I am one of

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Speaker 1: the only like young male liberal voices on the internet.

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Speaker 1: And that was like a hole that I saw and

617
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Speaker 1: was just frustrated by myself because like I like all

618
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Speaker 1: the characters on the conservative side as characters like I

619
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Speaker 1: like to look at their Instagram videos. I think they're

620
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Speaker 1: so hilarious entertaining, and I get kick out of it

621
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Speaker 1: and I want to know what they're saying and I

622
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Speaker 1: want to know what's going on there because I find

623
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Speaker 1: it just interesting and they're effective, I think, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just think it's like this may sound reductive and dumb,

625
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: but I think if Democrats could do better on talking

626
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Speaker 1: about the economy, then they would probably also do better

627
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Speaker 1: with young men. And I think that a lot of

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Speaker 1: the social media stuff that I see online, it's like

629
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Speaker 1: a convergence between like you know, working out slash ice

630
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Speaker 1: Bath and Crypto and like like other hacks, and it's

631
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: kind of all about like performance and an optimization, which

632
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Speaker 1: is like a great thing.

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Speaker 5: Well, well, Gavin Marshawn's a younger culture. He can tell

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Speaker 5: you from his aspect because I don't, like I said,

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Speaker 5: I mean to me, you almost have to really have

636
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 5: the talking points, and I don't know, you know, Trump

637
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 5: does it geniusly, of course in terms of you know

638
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 5: what he says, people buying, but Marshawn, coming you're in

639
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 5: your point of view, I think it's.

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Speaker 2: Just more so because like it's almost like when you

641
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: speaks like Trump speak to Trump, speak to the people

642
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: you have. You have a lot of situations where it's

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Speaker 2: almost like now when you look at it, like being

644
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: a masculine man, like that's a that's a bad thing

645
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: with all of the shit that's going on, Like oh,

646
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Speaker 2: you need to be talking about your emotions and your feelings,

647
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Speaker 2: getting in touch with this and getting in touch with that.

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Speaker 2: And Dan, if you say a certain thing about yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean certain group of people, motherfuckers look at you like, oh,

650
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Speaker 2: fuck him, he's not right and wh how did he

651
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Speaker 2: say that? And then you got the council culture. And

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Speaker 2: then you got individuals who, you know what I mean,

653
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Speaker 2: see the change in the world, and it's like okay

654
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: from a man, like Okay, this is what the women is,

655
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: this is what they accepting, this is what they like,

656
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: this is what they're saying. Then as a man, you're

657
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: gonna plan to that because you gonna want the woman.

658
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: So therefore it'll start to uh decline. And then you

659
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: get more individuals who you know, fall in line with

660
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: was the uh politically correct way to be as a man.

661
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: And if you you know what I mean, you stand

662
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: up and you stand on what the fuck you feel

663
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: then oh, no, fuck you, we ain't fucking with you

664
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: no more. We don't like you. And you know what I mean,

665
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: It's kind of like if you are a fucking alpha male,

666
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: you're a bad guy, and you have Trump that speak

667
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: to those bad guys and then he'll tell, oh, yeah,

668
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: we're gonna get you some money too. Oh shit, Now

669
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: I'm really listening to what you say. All of that

670
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: other ship you was in, or if you racist or

671
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: you we think you that way, and but hold on,

672
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: you stand up for being a being a man and

673
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: you're Finnah, give me a couple of dollars by all year.

674
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: I rock with that.

675
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: So I mean, you know, it's just the way that

676
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: you know, people retain or receive information, And like you said,

677
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: he a genius when he do it, and he speaks

678
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: to that demographic of people. So you know what I mean,

679
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: you get an understanding from that.

680
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: Jack what I mean. It's interesting and I appreciate what

681
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: marshauns saying because I think you know this this kind

682
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: of this backlash to this emphasis around toxic masculinity and

683
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: that kind of ship, and I mean it's interesting and

684
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 3: I get your point in sort of the it's sort

685
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: of us pushback against you know, I don't know what

686
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: they sort of what would be perceived. I don't want

687
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: to play into the frame.

688
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: But just even that, you have to be aware and

689
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: conscious of what the fuck you say, because had you

690
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: said what the fuck I thought you was gonna say,

691
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: then from some angle or some kind of fucking way,

692
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: then they own fuck Gavin Newson. He said blah blah blah,

693
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: bah blah blah blah, and this that and the third.

694
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: So therefore, in your mind, you played that shit real quickly.

695
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: Hold on, maybe I might, I might not want to.

696
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: Go down that road.

697
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: They may save me. But what I mean, Jay, you

698
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: you've been thinking about this. Man, to your point, that's

699
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: a hell of a statement. I never thought about it.

700
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 3: You're exactly and by the way, as someone as a

701
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 3: student of this, I never really even put it together.

702
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: You are one of the few liberal sort of young

703
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: male voices out there that's ubiquitous online. You're one hundred

704
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: percent it's dominant in sort of a hard right conservative

705
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 3: for a construct anyway, what do you think of what

706
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: Marshaun said, Man, I mean.

707
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: I think that there's so much truth to that, and

708
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: like so much of it is kind of like not

709
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: rational but like emotional, and we all kind of can

710
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: feel it and know what's going on, but it's hard

711
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: to it's hard to come up with like a linear

712
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: story as to like, oh, well, like young men feel

713
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: this and therefore we need to talk to them differently.

714
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: I think, like, personally, I think risk taking behavior online

715
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: is attractive to people. And I think that I've taken

716
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: risks with being like silly or punny, but I think

717
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: like taking risks is something that people respect either way,

718
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: and I think that I think it's a hard thing

719
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: to do in politics, and there's a lot of reasons

720
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: not to take any risks. I think you have to,

721
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: especially if you want to do anything about this problem,

722
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: which is going to be a problem going forward. I

723
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: feel like that's what I'm like, Oh man, if we

724
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: lost like all these young guys this time, it's going

725
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: to be hard to get them back. I mean, we

726
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: obviously can be done. But anyway, that's just kind of

727
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: how I see it.

728
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 5: But you know, assent on the on the gender gap, Gavin,

729
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 5: This is funny, Jack. So, a couple of nights ago,

730
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 5: my my freshman in high school daughter had a volleyball

731
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 5: game and one of her teammates, you know, got a

732
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 5: spike and kind of got in the other team's face

733
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 5: and the coach's face and whatnot. Nothing like crazy, but

734
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 5: you know, kind of got showed emotion and which to me,

735
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 5: I think is great because men have been doing that

736
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 5: for fifty years. Okay, well from that game the other night,

737
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 5: there's been a backlash in regards to parents, calling the ad,

738
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 5: calling the principal. I can't believe this girl did this,

739
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 5: did that. It's like, dude, like Draymond Green doesn't show emotion,

740
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 5: Dennis Robin didn't show emotion, Lebron Steph Curry night night.

741
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 4: But a girl does it now and the community is in.

742
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 5: Uproar because she spiked the ball, showed some emotion and

743
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 5: all that.

744
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 4: So we're still going back.

745
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 5: And this is when you know, female sports want to

746
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 5: be paid the same and all the same stuff. But

747
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 5: now you have a community of parents and people thinking

748
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 5: the emotion of a female is wrong.

749
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 4: And which I thought was total bullshit.

750
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 5: So I called the family, say screw them, you know

751
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 5: what I mean, And I'm gonna go tell the A

752
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 5: D and principal go after themselves too. But like that's

753
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 5: where we're at still, Gavin, and it sucks because it

754
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 5: shouldn't be right. But going back to the Trump, like

755
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 5: Moreshawn said, you know, he's just gonna say one way,

756
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 5: people like, okay, cool, you know what.

757
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 2: I mean, fresh, let me help you, let me help

758
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: you out. Now say it with no. Now, that's that's

759
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 2: where you get the haters at. And then that's where

760
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 2: you got to say these two famous words. Come on now,

761
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: come on now, you got to say like this, fuck you.

762
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: They screw your ship. They don't understand. You got to

763
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: hit him with the fuck you. When you get a

764
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: hater on line, you gotta get him with the fuck you.

765
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 5: Yes, amen, just then. And then the school's president was

766
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 5: a nun, So I didn't want to tell.

767
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 3: The none that. No, you're not gonna tell it none

768
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 3: that and None's scared that he I mean, that's uh.

769
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: I got some pts from Maname barget back in the day.

770
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: That's another conversation, by the way, just hey, uh, you

771
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 3: know it's without getting too far off, we were just discussing,

772
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 3: which I think is a profoundly. I think if there's

773
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: one thing after this election that could be determinative, meaning

774
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: in terms of the outcome of the election and move

775
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 3: the needle even a marginal way, but enough to actually

776
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: tip the balance in the direction of Trump and may

777
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 3: be in this space, so I think it will be

778
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: one of the most analyzed and considered conversations, so I

779
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: don't want to short change it. At the same time, Man, Jack,

780
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: I'm curious because I appreciate your sort of reverence to

781
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 3: public service. You speak to public service. I think what

782
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 3: you're doing is a public service by willing to use

783
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: your voice, use your platform, and engage in an authentic way,

784
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 3: in an inviting way, as you say, taking risks, which

785
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: I totally appreciate, and not playing by the traditional rules

786
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: in that respect. But it begs the question, man, especially

787
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: it's an impossible question for you to avoid because you

788
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,479
Speaker 3: get it all the time. And I'm personally curious. I mean,

789
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: you know, with all the toxicity that is politics, one

790
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 3: thing public service, but sort of putting yourself out there

791
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 3: more formally in the role as candidate, I mean, is

792
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 3: that something you aspire to or something you deeply you

793
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 3: know it's just like the last thing you want to

794
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: get involved with.

795
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't want to like give a

796
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: bullshit answer, because but it's this isn't a bullsh answermance.

797
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: I like, actually don't plan I try to plant too

798
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: far ahead because I think that that always gets me

799
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: like messed up into my own head. And so like,

800
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: for better or worse, I've loved politics and followed it

801
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: incredibly closely since I was like ten, and I just

802
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: loved it and I went, you know, and there's something

803
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: I can do about it. So I feel like this

804
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: has been a really interesting way to try to come

805
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: up with my own whatever, my own path into doing

806
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: something about it. And I feel like I just kind

807
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: to keep trying to stay in the pocket and take

808
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: advantage of the opportunities that seem good. But I mean

809
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: I would be lying to you if I said I

810
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: never thought about it and I didn't think that it

811
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: was an incredible uh career, And I mean if so

812
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: much admiration for you and what you've done, and I mean,

813
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: how could you not want to do that out of it?

814
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: It's an incredible thing to do. But I really don't

815
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: try to planty for our head.

816
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 5: Well, Jack, you're you're a rock star, and you should

817
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 5: plan a head because you got a huge future and.

818
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: No you say you you say you've been following politics

819
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 2: since she was ten years old.

820
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just love that. It's so brilliant.

821
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: That's that's crazy, because you know what I mean, when

822
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: you start, you know what i mean, thinking about it

823
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 2: from a standpoint like you know, I'm pretty sure this

824
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: is something that's in the household, like you've been you

825
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 2: know what i mean, getting you know what I mean,

826
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 2: talk this from a very early age, like in my

827
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: community and with my background, that's not something like that.

828
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: We hold court in the house, you know what I mean.

829
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: So when you think about it, and then you know,

830
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: you get put in this position and now it's like,

831
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: oh shit, I'm on here with the government, like we're

832
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: gonna be talking about politics and all this kind of shit,

833
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: and just to think like how far behind I am

834
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: on eight ball with it comes to this type of shit.

835
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: And then we get somebody on here you're probably younger

836
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: than me, and shit, and you start talking about like, yeah,

837
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: you've been in this since like ten years old type

838
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: shit like that's that's that's fucking crazy to me, Like

839
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: to think like while I was ten years old and

840
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: I'm trying to you know, I mean, flip up the

841
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: couch to see if I could, you know, I mean,

842
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: get a quarter so I could go outside and go

843
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: buy twenty five cent icy from the lady upstairs. You actually, you.

844
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, I was doing. I was doing

845
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: a lot of things that not where that weren't politics also,

846
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: so I messed around a lot. But yeah, I don't know.

847
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: I feel like, did in your family play football? Am

848
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: I wrong? Like people in your family?

849
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: I'm uh, yeah, one of my uncles did. But I mean,

850
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: you know, when you in that space, you know what

851
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like I'm and you know, he

852
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: you know, go over to you know, wherever he's playing

853
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: that so it's not like he's actually in the household

854
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: with me to give me is am on what's going on?

855
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 2: And at the time, like when you in that space,

856
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, in this your livelihood,

857
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: like you kind of like in this like what we

858
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: call it right now, we call it like Disneyland. You're

859
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: in this Disneyland fairy tale to where when you're in

860
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: the league, it's like this is this is this is

861
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,959
Speaker 2: law to me? And then what's going on back at home,

862
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: Like oh, when I get the off season and I'm

863
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: not traveling with my family and this. Then I go

864
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 2: home and it's more so like, oh, it's a celebration

865
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: because you know, un home, like oh yeah, we you know,

866
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: I mean, we only got so much time with him.

867
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: It ain't like we really just get the Hey, so

868
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 2: what is it like this like this and we really

869
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: get the high at him? Man, figure out like what

870
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 2: that actually looks like? So damn that shit is just

871
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, it it be mind

872
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: blowing to me when you you know what I mean,

873
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: you talk to people and it's like, you know the

874
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: issues and the ship that's going on now, and then

875
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: you find out like, oh, well you grew up like this,

876
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 2: you've been in this shit, there's been something that you've

877
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: been talking about. And then it's like you know, somebody

878
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: like me who you know, it really didn't make a

879
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: difference to me until you know, I started, uh, you know,

880
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 2: playing in the league, and then I'm getting hit with

881
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 2: all these fucking taxes and I mean all this extra

882
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: shit that I had no fucking idea about, and then

883
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: fighter and all these motherfuckers I see, ah, my goddamn check,

884
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: and I'm like, who the fuck? Who the fuck is fighter, Like,

885
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 2: who the fuck is why is this getting so much

886
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 2: money the mind and I did not see this motherfucker

887
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: shooting in the gym, Like who the fuck is it?

888
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 2: And they taking you feel me though? They getting Gwalid.

889
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 5: It's fascinated in the backgrounds Jack, I mean what he's

890
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 5: saying it compare you grow. I mean it's crazy right

891
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 5: and Marshaun is real.

892
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the irony is Jack, he's bullshit. This is

893
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: the guy's preparing to run for mayor of Oakland. Jack, Yeah,

894
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 3: that's your political career. This guy is out there, you know. Yeah,

895
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 3: I'm on to you. Marshawn, I'm on to you, brother, But.

896
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: Look at but look at the gap in there though,

897
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: Like shit, I I was twenty. I was twenty when

898
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: I when I got drafted, and you feel me. So

899
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 2: it's like for a whole twenty year, I ain't nobody

900
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: worried about all that shit. It's just like, you know what,

901
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: I mean, what's up now? When you start thinking about it,

902
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 2: like okay, in a sense the way we talked about

903
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, these issues, it was oh you

904
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: know what, oh man, the government is playing like we

905
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: ain't get our you know section eight. You know what

906
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: I mean, welfare wig, you know what I mean, Banana.

907
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: It's like all of the government funded up programs that

908
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: you know there is to go and sign up for,

909
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: like you know, I mean, I remember standing in the

910
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: line with my mama to you know what I mean,

911
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: to get like Mama, while we here, why were you

912
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: take you so long? And then we come out of there,

913
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: My mama hella mad, like, oh they fucked up. They

914
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, ain't saying I didn't fill

915
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: out this paperwork right and out I this, that and

916
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: the third so I can't get my foodston And hell,

917
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: it's like hold on what so what that means that

918
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a little hard, you know what I mean,

919
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: to get some food put on the uh on the

920
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 2: table until we figure out you know, what's going on

921
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: type shit. And it's like oh, but at the end

922
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: of the day, it's not like, you know, Mom's just

923
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: going and like, well, look, this is who the motherfucking

924
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: Mary is, This is who the governor is, this is

925
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 2: the you know, they just passed the bill and they

926
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: just passed the law that you know what I mean.

927
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't like that. It was just like man, the

928
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: government fucking up. So in my mind it's like, man,

929
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: fuck the government. Why the fuck they ain't trying to

930
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: they ain't trying to have me and Mom's eg Like, man,

931
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 2: I got brothers and sister that needed. So then it

932
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: forced you to go and do some shit that ended

933
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: up putting you in a position where you're gonna do

934
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 2: some shit that might ultimately when you're thinking at a

935
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: young age, it ain't like, Oh, I want to go

936
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: do some bad shit. It's like, oh no, I want

937
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: to go do some ya I mean to get some

938
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: money to put on my fucking to put some food

939
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: on my table. And then you feem me, you get

940
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: jammed up, and it's like, oh, well, now you're gonna

941
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 2: be fucked off for the rest of your life because

942
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: now you got what it's called a record, And with

943
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: this record, you can't go and apply to certain type

944
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: of jobs because you have this record. You can't go

945
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: and get X, Y and Z, because you know what,

946
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: when you went and did your taxes, you made a

947
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 2: couple dollars more than what the limit is, and now

948
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:39,959
Speaker 2: you can't get government funded, government funded.

949
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 3: Any of the programs. Yeah, you're no longer eligible.

950
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: So what the fuck am I going to do right now?

951
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: But it doesn't come. It doesn't come to us. It's like, Okay, yeah,

952
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: this is why you going, this is why you're going vote,

953
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 2: This is why you looking to You know what I mean,

954
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: who is gonna be representing your Yo city? This is

955
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: your Yo Yo state? You know, I mean, the motherfucker

956
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 2: who running the goddamn hole? Uh? You ask and all

957
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: this shit, and then you know what I mean, when

958
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: you start thinking about it, it's like, fuck.

959
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 3: You know what I love about Marshawn? What I love

960
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: about what Jack's doing in particular, He's taking all those

961
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: things and instead of putting in a negative frames, he's

962
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 3: reminding everybody all these things do matter. I mean, he's

963
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: focused on issues around gun safety, climate where Jack's next

964
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 3: level in terms of his support of addressing the issues

965
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 3: of climate change, things that impact this next generation, but

966
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 3: also giving them a pathway to positively engage and feel

967
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: like they have a voice in the process. And that's

968
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 3: I think one of the most significant contributions that Jack

969
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 3: has made to this generation that does feel like I

970
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: think you express your generation feels kind of locked out

971
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: of that doesn't feel represented, and so I just think

972
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 3: it's one of the things that makes Jack's work so special.

973
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: By the way, just on that, Jack, I mean we

974
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: you know, you decided as well just to amplify that

975
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: a little bit. And marshallt of you know that just interesting.

976
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 3: Jack partner with Vogue magazine, which is just interesting, and

977
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 3: You're like, what are you a spokesperson for Vogue Now.

978
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm their first ever political contributor.

979
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 3: It was that your idea, their idea, and why Vogue

980
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: versus you know, maxim or something.

981
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: Well, I Vogue has a great, great reputation, and I

982
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: think that why I was excited was because honestly, not

983
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: only are they like great and do a great job

984
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: and are great people the people I work with, who

985
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: I can't say enough great things about, but also they

986
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: have like a huge, huge, huge social media you know,

987
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: they have like fifty million followers on their Instagram for example.

988
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, well, this is like I

989
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: gotta limit my focus, like I am doing like social

990
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: media videos about politics. This cannot be a better fit.

991
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 1: And because it's not so DC politics like heavy, they're

992
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: like a little bit more creativity to do interesting things,

993
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: I think. But I just also want to say that.

994
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: I think, Marshawn, you deserve a lot of credit because

995
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people who have public profiles do not

996
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 1: say anything or do anything or risk take any risks

997
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: at all. And I think it's awesome that you are involved,

998
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: specifically minded person, and I think that I think you know,

999
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: you are such a good example to so many people

1000
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: that politics can is open to people who are who

1001
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: we admire for other reasons as well.

1002
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 4: So I just wanted to Jack had a question for you.

1003
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 5: I I literally and thank you for saying that to Marshawn,

1004
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 5: because Marshawn's always been There's no one realer than him.

1005
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 5: I've idolized your uncle. Literally, I grew up idolizing JFK Jr.

1006
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question if that accident didn't happen,

1007
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 5: do you think he would have been president?

1008
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 4: To term president? Where do you think he'd be today?

1009
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 4: Looking back?

1010
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 5: I mean, he's fascinating to me his life and what

1011
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 5: he did and who he was and it was unbelievable.

1012
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 4: And this is pre social media and whatnot.

1013
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 5: But we're do you look back and see where he

1014
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 5: would be today if he was still alive?

1015
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean, so like I didn't he was like I

1016
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: was five or six when he died, so I didn't

1017
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: know him. I will say this, like he was clearly

1018
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: so far ahead of his time in terms of creating

1019
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: George Magazine and blending politics and media and fashion and humor.

1020
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: And I feel like somehow, I like stumbled into something

1021
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: on my own that maybe resembles what he was, like

1022
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: had his finger on. But I think he definitely he

1023
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: like had such a a knack and a feel for

1024
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: politics and media especially, and I only know that just

1025
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: from the clips I've seen of him. I feel so

1026
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: lucky because it's like you were saying, like I grew up,

1027
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,479
Speaker 1: you know, loving politics. But it wasn't like we sat

1028
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: around and talked about the dinner table. It was like

1029
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: I have, like my grandparents and my uncles. There's like

1030
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: the volumes of books and recorded speeches that I got

1031
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: to learn from about them like everybody else can. And

1032
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: I think that that was a really cool way for

1033
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: me to interact with with my family, that John's included

1034
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: in that, and just kind of trying to understand them

1035
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: as as we all do and try to draw whatever

1036
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: lessons we can from them. Now. But I know, I

1037
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 1: feel really lucky that way, because there's like a massive

1038
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: public record of my whole family too, so I'll never

1039
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: forget anything.

1040
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: You know, Jack, what I love about your family is

1041
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 3: it goes back to what Marshawn was just saying and

1042
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 3: expressing his own lived experience in relationship to politics and

1043
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: what it didn't mean until it mattered, and then you're

1044
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 3: sort of you're kicking, you know, you're kicking and screaming

1045
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 3: because you're pissed off the government's not necessarily representing your interests.

1046
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 3: But I love one thing that in Marshaan, I think

1047
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 3: this is sort of interesting to have Jack with us.

1048
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 3: Everything that Jack's grandfather his brother Bobby were about, we're

1049
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 3: about addressing exactly what you just described in your live condition.

1050
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 2: Man.

1051
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: Literally, if I if I went back you look at

1052
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 3: the speeches of Jack Kennett Bobby Kennedy, They literally describe

1053
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 3: what you just described and very personal raw ways your

1054
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 3: lived experience and how government needs to represent the realities

1055
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: that lived experience that people were having. And in so

1056
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 3: many ways I was I was particularly evocative that I'm

1057
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 3: listening to you here we are with Jack having that

1058
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 3: conversation and thinking about the spirit of the Kennedys and

1059
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 3: the spirit of the sixties ignorance, sollving for ignorance and

1060
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 3: poverty and disease and the spirit of public service and

1061
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 3: and so anyway, it's do I get emotional about this

1062
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 3: because literally, this is the family. I wouldn't be here

1063
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 3: in politics. I was inspired by this family, inspired by

1064
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 3: sars Shreiver uh and and and this idea of public

1065
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 3: service and what public what being a public service a

1066
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: servant should represent and uh and So I really appreciate

1067
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: and I do, And I thanks Jack for mentioning Marshawn's

1068
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: you know, willingness to put himself out in political terms

1069
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 3: too with I mean, I don't know how serious we're

1070
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: trying to figure out. Maybe Jack, you can ask him

1071
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 3: how serious is about this damn mayor's race.

1072
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: So that's what I was just finna get I was

1073
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: just finna get to so what it just sounded like

1074
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: to me, you feel me in my interpretation, And what

1075
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: you just said was I'm gonna make a hell of

1076
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: a mayor, my boy, That's what it sounded like to me.

1077
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: But that's what I heard you say. I heard you say,

1078
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: ay more, Sean brother, Hey, check this out a little Nick,

1079
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: you gonna be a saucy ass mayor bro, So just

1080
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: get ready for when that motherfucking time comes.

1081
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 3: Oh man, I think he just answered the question. Jack Jesus,

1082
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 3: this guy's running.

1083
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to run against you, Marshawn.

1084
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 4: Nobody would, nobody would Jackie Right.

1085
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying because many you know, like and

1086
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 2: this is and this is where my you know, I mean,

1087
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: you just said my ignorance hant all that shit gonna

1088
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: kick in. But I just feel like, you know, I mean,

1089
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: I got somebody who who's done it, you know what

1090
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: I mean, who's at the top of the game, you

1091
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: know what I mean, and they really got to like

1092
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 2: they got a stronghold on it, you feel me. And

1093
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: then you know, I mean I get to talk to

1094
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 2: him on a day to day basis, you know, I

1095
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: mean week the week, you know, I mean, and it's

1096
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: not just some made up ship like I mean, me

1097
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: and me and Batman. We had these conversations before we

1098
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: even had this. This is how this ship even came

1099
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 2: to you know what I mean, came to life. Like

1100
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: this wasn't my idea, Like this motherfucker called me where

1101
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: I was at. It was tune in the morning. You

1102
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: feel me, And I'm like, man, get your ass off

1103
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 2: my phone, like quit playing with me? Hung up on him?

1104
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: He called me back like, nah, Bro, you don't hear

1105
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about, Like, oh, are you serious? Like

1106
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 2: who gave you the green like to do this? You

1107
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: know what type of I am? Bro? You feel me?

1108
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 2: I A no, We're gonna do it. So I got

1109
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: somebody in my corner that you feel me though.

1110
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 5: Hey, I got a better one for Jack. You're gonna

1111
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 5: take that Balboa hat. You're gonna fly out West. You're

1112
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 5: gonna come to Balboa Cafe with me and Mark, Shawn

1113
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 5: and Gavin, and we're gonna and we're gonna bring We're

1114
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 5: gonna whiteboard some things.

1115
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 4: Jack. You're gonna get a.

1116
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: White board Jack's political career because he didn't say no, Doug,

1117
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 3: And here that son of a bitch say no, no, no.

1118
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 4: Here's the deal.

1119
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 2: We got.

1120
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 5: We got we got great things. We got Jack going

1121
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 5: for we got Jack doing some great things. We got

1122
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 5: more Sean doing some great things again. I'm Kaiser Sosi.

1123
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 5: I'm a fictional character. I don't exist Jack. But here's

1124
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 5: the deal. We're gonna have some great food and wine

1125
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 5: that drinks at the Balboa Cafe. Have a great time

1126
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 5: and uh and and we're gonna we're gonna create some

1127
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 5: great things ahead of us.

1128
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 4: How about that? Jack? Can we can? We can?

1129
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:24,479
Speaker 2: We can?

1130
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 4: We invite you for that?

1131
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 5: Jack?

1132
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm there. I'm on the next plane.

1133
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: Are kidding me?

1134
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 3: Love it?

1135
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 4: Love it?

1136
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 3: Well, appreciate you being on every damn uh social feed

1137
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 3: that I've got. You're You're ubiquitous, man, You're crushing it.

1138
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 3: Uh and you're reinventing the art. And I appreciate the

1139
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: blend of humor uh and taking the best of Marshaan's

1140
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 3: the spirit of Marshawn Lynch and Doug and their authenticity

1141
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 3: that they bring to the conversation, your wildness, your willingness

1142
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 3: to take risks, and and the courage that is a

1143
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 3: big part of that, particularly at a time where politics

1144
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 3: is as rough as it's been in a long time.

1145
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 3: So it's been great to be with you, brother.

1146
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1147
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate it genuinely, so much fun to do this,

1148
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: and I truly admire your service. Governor Doug, thank you

1149
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: so much for making this so fun. And Marshawn, like

1150
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: you're the coolest person ever. I already knew that now,

1151
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: so appreciate bout my heart. Thank you guys, it's all mutual.

1152
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: And thanks for the kind words.

1153
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1154
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 5: And by the way, Jack, I'm gonna send you a

1155
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 5: Politicket hat to Politicken.

1156
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: Hat too, Sick.

1157
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 4: I'll get you.

1158
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: I can't take this one off. No, I can't take

1159
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: that off.

1160
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 4: You got more hair than me, though, Jack, I got

1161
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 4: to get my hair.

1162
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 2: Back you.

1163
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 3: Over that real game keeps thing. Brother, what shaw?

1164
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 4: There you go. I'm gonna put the hat on. Now,

1165
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 4: there you go.

1166
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 3: Thank you, brother, I appreciate you.