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Speaker 1: dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys Out. Good morning everyone,

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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, January nineteenth. Thank you for joining us. We

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Speaker 1: got a we got a Frankenstein podcast for you today.

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Speaker 1: I'm David Hellman. I think I was doing the math

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Speaker 1: on this before we did the show. Something ten years

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Speaker 1: of NFL playing experience. I'm here with Isaiah Stanback and

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Speaker 1: Danny McCray. That sounds about right. And then Mick did

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Speaker 1: we have to go there? Forty five? Forty five combined

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Speaker 1: years of Cowboys coverage on the other side of the table.

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Speaker 1: What's up, y'all? What's it going? And then we have

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Speaker 1: Dave Hey, Hey, I threw mine. I threw in my tenure.

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Speaker 1: You did, absolutely? Are you higher up than that? No?

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Speaker 1: You got it. I was thinking, Okay, that's good anymore.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to talk about the eighties, all right.

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Speaker 1: So I had a couple of things I wanted to

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Speaker 1: get into today, which it's ironic because we found out

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Speaker 1: this morning Mike McCarthy is going to do his kind

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Speaker 1: of wrap up press conference, which if there was any

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Speaker 1: if there was any doubt about his future here, not

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Speaker 1: saying that there was, but if there was any, that

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Speaker 1: probably puts it to rest. That he is addressing the media.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's funny, So we don't We obviously

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Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to react to that, right, But

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Speaker 1: I'm curious, we've had seventy two hours to digest. Is

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Speaker 1: there anything from Sunday's loss that is on your mind

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Speaker 1: time to digest it, Maybe the emotions of the matter

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Speaker 1: are gone. Any anything that you're feeling differently about on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday than you were on Monday. Not for me. Not

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Speaker 1: for me. I think I feel the same way. I've

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Speaker 1: been feeling the same way all season long, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think they have to figure out a

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Speaker 1: way to address the issue with this with this team,

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Speaker 1: um really within this organization. It's not just this team.

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Speaker 1: What's been going on? What can they put your finger

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Speaker 1: on that's that's been that's been a roadblock for this

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Speaker 1: team and having success in the playoffs, And you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that is And I know Jerry's

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Speaker 1: beyond frustrated in terms of trying to figure out what

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Speaker 1: it is. Because as his job and everybody's always calling

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Speaker 1: for Jerry, Jerry, he's a stuff aside. His job is

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Speaker 1: to put together the best coach Steff and the best

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Speaker 1: roster he possibly can and I think he did that

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Speaker 1: this year and to still come up short. I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine the level of frustration that he has. And you

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Speaker 1: know this, but this team did. To be fair, this

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Speaker 1: team did show a lot of signs that really kind

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Speaker 1: of accumulated and really led up to what showed up

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Speaker 1: this past Sunday in terms of their inability to be

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Speaker 1: consistent offensively, in terms of their inability to stop the run,

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Speaker 1: these things really started showing up, and it's unfortunate that

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Speaker 1: that was on display, and obviously in the playoff game

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Speaker 1: that they needed to win to accelerate their way towards

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Speaker 1: towards them you know, obviously there ultimate trophy, which is

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Speaker 1: the Lombardi. But this something has to has to change,

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Speaker 1: and we talked about yesterday. I'm talking Cowboys in terms

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Speaker 1: conversation was never revolving around what was going to happen

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Speaker 1: supposed to happen in the regular season. We're supposed to

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Speaker 1: that's what really matters. Regular season twelve and five. Make

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Speaker 1: it was here when I was my rookie year, I'm

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Speaker 1: because two thousand and seven that was a really, really

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Speaker 1: it Sam hurt? Yep, Sam hurt? And it was like

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Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys adopted and whoever's idea was, this

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Speaker 1: playing soft defense. The defense was soft tissue, paper, Charman,

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Speaker 1: My philosophy in playoffs, and you guys can speak to it,

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Speaker 1: not the first team who's done that to us, right.

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Speaker 1: You know why they do that to you. They don't

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Speaker 1: And I think what happens is getting Kellen's head of like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the drive that we moved down the field with six

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Speaker 1: if running is working, we should just lean on that.

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Speaker 1: Lean on that. I would have dus ran the ball

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Speaker 1: maybe not. But that kind of sounds like a contradiction though,

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Speaker 1: And Isaiah, you're not the only person I've heard say that,

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Speaker 1: Catch a lot of balls at the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: just turns into a yack yardage. Dallas, I'm just gonna say, Dallas.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to point out Kellamore or Dak has

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Speaker 1: been unwilling all year to take those easy plays. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that there's a game where we've had the

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Speaker 1: inability to run the ball. To your point, I don't

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Speaker 1: to your point, if the situation is right's they'll make

428
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Speaker 1: a deal that he It's hard to turn down, but

429
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Speaker 1: I think it has to have that that the entire

430
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 1: day like I said, the history that comes along with

431
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 1: it in terms of the defense with Chicago Bears, eighty

432
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: five Bears, all that kind of stuff. I think that

433
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: along with some of his personnel, along with to your point,

434
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: what's what's what's the game plan going forward? And make

435
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: sure I need I need to know since security that

436
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: this is going to be handled. If this is handled

437
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: and you give me these coaches that I want, then

438
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: I'll walk into the situation. Unless he has this tug

439
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: to go back home, Right, he grew up on the

440
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: other side of the Hudson River, and does he want

441
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 1: to go back to the Giant. Oh that's got to

442
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 1: be the least appealing job out of all the ones

443
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: I know. But I'm just saying the appeal would be

444
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: to go back home. First question, I'm asking if I'm

445
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: dan Quinn walking into a meeting, right, and I want

446
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 1: to go into the right the right I guess opportunity. Yeah, hey, man,

447
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: y'all have any idea what Aaron Rodgers is gonna do?

448
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: Like that automatically makes your organization the right fit? Like, hey,

449
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: so do you have any inside and info? Like all

450
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: y'all friends, do you know a guy who said, like

451
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: I want to know what the possibility of, like you said,

452
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: because without a quarterback, you're putting yourself in a tough position.

453
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: And then if people are talking about quarterbacks in the draft,

454
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Speaker 1: you like, I'm not even sure if his one in

455
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: there that you can say that, yeah, that that is

456
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: going to be a bit care of our organization from

457
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: year one. Right, So I'm hey, man, dude, is it

458
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: is it any? Because I think if you're a young

459
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: coach and you get the opportunity and you go, okay,

460
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: I got a job, right, who knows this may never

461
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: come again. But when you've got skins on the wall

462
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: like he does, you know what, if he does a

463
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: good job again next year, there's gonna be five more

464
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: jobs open. No, don't see why he won't do a

465
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: great job for us next year, dan Quinn, You will

466
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: do great. I mean, like, I mean to take five interviews.

467
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: I think it's up to five at this point. It

468
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: seems unlikely, but he knows he's got talent here. He

469
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: knows they've got they'll they'll have some money to spend

470
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: a little bit at least to at least try to

471
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: keep the guys that are on the team right now

472
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: and yeah, the opportunity will be there. I am curious. Okay,

473
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: that's all well and good. We talked about it in

474
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Speaker 1: the first segment. The more complicated one is Kellen Yeah,

475
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Speaker 1: I mean, which I agree with you, Like, if that

476
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: is your final impression, it's not a good one. But

477
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: he's got four interviews lined up like how do you

478
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: think that looks? And again, Kellen Moore, as a young coach,

479
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: is probably gonna be more eager to take an opportunity

480
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: if he gets it. Don't you think he should? Well,

481
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: he should, he should take it. No both ways? Is

482
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: that like a selfish like please go absolutely listen because

483
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: no secret. I would like to see Mike McCarthy be

484
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: the play caller like he came in saying he went

485
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,959
Speaker 1: in the lab, he took that year off, studied as

486
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: much as he could, and came out with some solutions

487
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: on how to move the ball against these these defenses.

488
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: We haven't seen him be able to do that because

489
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: it's Kellen Moore called in the play. So I want

490
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Speaker 1: to see that happening because at the end of the season,

491
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say, man, what's up with Mike McCarthy.

492
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Speaker 1: So are you giving Kelly Moore a care package, well,

493
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: well hopefully as a head coaching job. Like I don't

494
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: want them to jobs. You know. You know what if

495
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: I'm the head coach and I got a problem him

496
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: with what's going on, he's not an independent contractor. I'm

497
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,239
Speaker 1: in his ear right. He's a young guy. He may

498
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: need some guidance, and I think he gets it during

499
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Speaker 1: the week. I don't think he's there all by himself

500
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: without McCarthy having some input. Now calling plays, it's a

501
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: different story, right because I think he is calling the

502
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 1: plays and he doesn't get in the way. But if

503
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Speaker 1: I was the head coach and that was my expertise

504
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: during the week, I'd have a lot to say about

505
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: the game plan. I'm ow, we're preparing, I'm I'm on

506
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: the mic like like that's that's why that That is

507
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: what I pitched when I came out. And now, of

508
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: course Jerry and Stephen love killing Moore, so they were

509
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: gonna give him the opportunity. But even after last year,

510
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: I was like, hey man, Mike, you're taking a lot

511
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: of heat, all right, so put it on your own back.

512
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: So at the end of the season you could say, listen,

513
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: it was me and my stuff didn't work because at

514
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: this point you're just like like you're still wondering what

515
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy iss out there doing. Like you said, he

516
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: might be out there helping Killing during the week, but

517
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: when you're watching the game is more of like manager

518
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Speaker 1: and I want to see Mike McCarthy called the plaze

519
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: because he's been to one studying. It's kind of like

520
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: what Parcels did right. He had an offensive coordinator, it

521
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: was a title right, he was doing it right. And

522
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: then when he kind of handed off a little bit

523
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: the play calling, he was on the MICA. You know,

524
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: he was in there. What the hell are you doing?

525
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: You know? And because you can say, Mike McCarthy come

526
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: out and say, yeah, I think we need to run

527
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: the ball, and then you go into the game and

528
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: you see something totally different, like it's just it's just

529
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: not adding up. Do you guys feel that Killing Moore

530
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: has the has the personality required to be a head

531
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Speaker 1: coach in the NFL? Be honest, not really? Nope. Yeah,

532
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: he's he's he's soft spoke, off spoken, and name the

533
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: last head coach that was soft spoken. I was successful.

534
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I mean, they tried with chan Gaily. I'm

535
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: just trying to think the NFL. It's It's so funny though,

536
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 1: because here, like, uh, San Francisco ZOC is a guy

537
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: by the name of Mike McDaniel. Have you ever gotten

538
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: look at him? He is he looks less like a

539
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: coach than Kellen Moore. Like, he looks like your chemistry professor.

540
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: I mean he seriously, he looks like he like drinks

541
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: mountain dew and plays Fortnite all day. This is I think,

542
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: but this is the difference between us and other teams.

543
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: See when we play what they say, Shanahan offense and

544
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: now you're talking about the offensive. He's well, I mean,

545
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: Shanahan calls their plays, he coordinates their run game. The

546
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: point that I was going to make is he's I

547
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: think he's got an interview with the Dolphins, but I

548
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: would be excited to hire him just because San Francisco

549
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: keep their ass the other day. Like it's I like,

550
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: and that's not the right way to look at it,

551
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: but like if if the Cowboys had scored thirty five

552
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: and won that game, I'd be like, hell, yeah, Kellen

553
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: Morder deserves a head coaching job. But my confidence is

554
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: really shaken by that. Even you take the last game

555
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: out of it, I'm still excuse me. You don't understand.

556
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: Head coach in this league is responsible for coaching who everyone? Yeah,

557
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: but who first? Who's what's his first objective? Quarterback coaches, coaches. Yeah,

558
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: he has to coach the coaches. That's number one. That's

559
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: your number one responsibility. Your coordinator's job is to make

560
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: sure that your players are in position. You're really in

561
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: oversight at that point. Now, if you choose to call plays,

562
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you've seen plenty of guys due, that's perfectly,

563
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: that's that's that's your choice. But your number one job

564
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: is to coach to coaches and make sure that everything

565
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: is structurally sound, and that make sure that your your mission.

566
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: Make sure that you know all everything that you want

567
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: to be handed down is handed down right, your ideologies,

568
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: all that stuff. After that. Now, if you choose to

569
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: call plays, you can call plays, and then it getting

570
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: a little bit more. You can get hop a run

571
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: off inside of the ball, hop on a defense side

572
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,239
Speaker 1: of the ball. But you can't just be an offensive guy.

573
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: You have to have the respect of every dog on

574
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: player on that team and every coach on that team,

575
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: So to ask Kellen Moore to step into a position

576
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: and be a Sean McVay, But I want to know.

577
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: But I will say this though, like I mean, Sean McVay,

578
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: he's a really good coach. But and I don't think

579
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: it's a coincidence that he's part of the Gruden tree

580
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: in the sense that like he's he's he's a self promoter,

581
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: Like did you see him the other day? He ran

582
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: down to the end zones celebrate with his team. But like, okay,

583
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: they feed off that. That's why, that's why I brought

584
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: his name, but because of the age. But doesn't it

585
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 1: seem like Kellen is well liked by the guys here,

586
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: at least Mark Cooper probably goes something to say, but

587
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: liked them respected or two different things. I don't know.

588
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't know either. Yeah, but I'm just saying liked

589
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: and respected or two different things. And I'm not I

590
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: don't get the sense. And I'm not in the locker room.

591
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: You guys are in there a lot more to me.

592
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: I don't like that, I know, right I in two

593
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: years my damn hands tied behind my back. But you

594
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: can be a lot more opinionated than I can on this.

595
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: I don't feel as if he walks in a room

596
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: and everybody goes yeah. But I think he does it

597
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit differently. Okay, yeah, I think so

598
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: he's not a yell or and a screamer. Um. And

599
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: I think you know, from what the guys said last year,

600
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: they kind of respected it and in the year before that.

601
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: So but but but different ways to do it. But

602
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: here's what the perception is. And I think when you're

603
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: talking to the public, that's where your perception is perceived, right,

604
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: And you know in his press conferences he's understated. He

605
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: kind of uses a lot of cliches, if you think

606
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: about it, And so that's what the perception gets to be,

607
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: not what happens in the room. Because the same thing

608
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: happened to Jason Garrett, right, and that was about I mean,

609
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: I was about to bring him up his public persondo

610
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: was oh nice guy, didn't say anything, and behind the

611
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: scenes he will mf you more than anybody else. I

612
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: think of how many people have said over the years,

613
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: like did you I know you saw it? Like the

614
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: and well you know Jason well enough anyway, but like

615
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: the All or Nothing that series they did about the Cowboys,

616
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: the Behind the Scene series. So many people shocked and

617
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: they were like, if that guy was the one talking

618
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: and that if that was the guy we saw, we

619
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: would like him a hell of a lot more. And I,

620
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: like Jason Garrett, like never understood that. For some reason,

621
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: I think showing your personality can be such an advantage.

622
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: And I was shocked because that wasn't a Jason Garrett

623
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: that I had here, really was not was not what

624
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: was your experience? He was? He was? He was not.

625
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he was soft spoken, but he didn't

626
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: get on guys like that. Only time I ever seen

627
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: him like really stand up and exude that type of

628
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: personality was when he was beefing with with Wade and Waye.

629
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: Phillis would say wrap it up and he would say, nah,

630
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: not yet, and we were like, uh that was that

631
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: was after that Payade. You know, mine was different. I

632
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: mean I can't remember those restarting periods over again. Like

633
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: we were in college. Sometimes we had the Garrett vision

634
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: where if you messed up in the game, you were

635
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: getting put up there. When I first got there, I

636
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: think if you were overweight or had any of those

637
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: type of fines, that stuff was put up on the

638
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: on the big screen at the beginning to meet and

639
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, you you back up here again, Like

640
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Speaker 1: these are the guys who were up here and this

641
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: is what we need them to do in order for

642
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: us to be great, because the little stuff can seep

643
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: in and create problems within the game. So I had

644
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: a different Yeah, like it was a cool dude. It was.

645
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: He was half of that Jason Gerett that you may

646
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: see sometimes U during the during the press where if

647
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: it's that type of moment, he's that guy. But then

648
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: if it's a moment to where somebody needs to get

649
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: get got, then yeah, I mean he had it in him.

650
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of times where that red hair

651
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: ended up in his face face got ready, gets so

652
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: mad and chew guys out, and I've seen it. So God,

653
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I don't have a job where like

654
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Speaker 1: my weight is broadcast. Wn't have done well with Jason

655
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Speaker 1: gart No, Like if you if you're overweight one time,

656
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Speaker 1: you're not gonna be on the board if this becomes

657
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: a consistent issue, because you know you have a lot

658
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: of time to get your weight. I struggled to get

659
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,479
Speaker 1: my weight down when I first got drafted. I got

660
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: drafted at two thirty. They said that we need to

661
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: report at two seven. I said, I'm four percent body fat.

662
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: How you guys sound like when my doctor right when

663
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: I going, oh you're overweights? Oh yeah, It's like thanks,

664
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: all right? Know what before if you got to go

665
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: to go ahead? I was just gonna say. My impression

666
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: after the game was, I don't think if this was

667
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: the final exam for both coordinators to get a head

668
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: coaching job, I don't know they'd either won passed really no,

669
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: not even Dan No. I gotta hear this one they ran.

670
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: They ran sixty three plays. I think it was fifteen

671
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: plays total two hundred and forty yards in that game,

672
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty in fifteen plays. All of them

673
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: were double digit gains, right, and then the other forty

674
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: eight plays they gained one hundred yards. So to me,

675
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: the downfall of that defense when they weren't getting multiple

676
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: takeaways in a game was they gave up big plays

677
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: seventy six for the season. Right, Yet percent of the

678
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: yardage they gave up came on seven percent of the

679
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: place out So I understand that, you know, the defense

680
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: was good and as long as they were getting takeaways.

681
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: And I said before the game and my gut feeling,

682
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: they will get multiple takeaways and that'll compensate for giving

683
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: up big plays. And they had a chance for not

684
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: to think I would say the differences between my my

685
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: my opinion between Kellen Moore and dan Quinn. Kellen Moore

686
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: is still unproven, right, Yeah, dan Quinn is proven. And

687
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: most of these organizations that are asking for a head

688
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: coach to come in are looking for what type of change,

689
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: a culture change? Dan Quinn I get you. Yeah, he

690
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: came in here and completely changed the culture of the

691
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys in one season. Completely. Yeah, talking about they

692
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: were going to ask him to do the same thing

693
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: if you enabled to change the culture of that defense.

694
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: And I'll say this just because I've been I've been

695
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: staying on table for dan Quinn before we even hired him.

696
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: Like you said, the culture change, right, especially from what

697
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: we saw last year. Then I got to go into

698
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: we gave up a lot of big plays when it

699
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: came to the defense making stops when they needed to,

700
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: are not giving up touchdowns. I think we were very

701
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: very good at that throughout most of the year. On

702
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: third down. We were at the top of the league

703
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: in our third down defense. Now I also have to

704
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: go just like I do with the offensive, like when

705
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: you played the Washington football team and you score fifty,

706
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: when you play Philly and you score fifty, and you

707
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: know the number one offense, and if you look at

708
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: it in context, it's a little different. Same thing with

709
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: our defense. Sometimes I'm watching the end of the game

710
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: and I want us to be top ten. I would

711
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: come to Dave every morning. Yea, all of a sudden

712
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: on this on the on the sideline with a type

713
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: back because we're up by thirty, and then all of

714
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: a sudden they scored fourteen points and you start seeing

715
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: runs going up the middle of the dudes getting beat

716
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: over the top because the game's over. So I think

717
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: that plays into it as well. But dan Quinn, to me,

718
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: definitely his resume and get it. I'm just saying, the

719
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: last game ain't the last. They gave up twenty three.

720
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: I know, I know they played, They played well enough

721
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: to win them. They got a turnover. Listen, one of

722
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: the touchdowns they give up is a change of possession,

723
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: which we know is always tough. Deebo Samuel After that

724
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: gives it up in our own territory, breaks it out

725
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: for what twenty six yards run on? Change the position.

726
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: It happens in the league often they always say they

727
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: change the possession. Is that time when the defense is

728
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: rushing out there, you not really really get on the

729
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: field and all of a sudden something can go wrong.

730
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: So seventeen yeah, I'm just you know, in twenty three points,

731
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: holding hold a playoff team to twenty three points is

732
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: enough that game ending and giving a field goal. Yeah,

733
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: it was a carving copy of the Cardinals game, like,

734
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: not not their best effort, but more than good enough

735
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: to win. And they say offense help us, Yes, So

736
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: like somebody like that game of the hand sticking out

737
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: of the water like drowning and they just high five

738
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: it instead of helping them out. You think about how

739
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: much help the offense got for us to put up

740
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: seventeen points. Okay, fake pushone talking an interception, right, and

741
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: we still end up with seventeen. And I'm sitting here saying,

742
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: if our if our defense holds it and now he's

743
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: not here, but if our defense holds them to twenty

744
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: three points, I can guarantee you will win this game

745
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: or we should they should have they didn't. Well, there

746
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: was one drive at the end that they didn't do

747
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: what they needed to do. Yeah, the defense, right, they

748
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: let them have the ball for six minutes. They were

749
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: in some time off the club, right, Yeah, they were

750
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: is some time off the club, and then the offense

751
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: didn't do what they should have done when they got

752
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: the ball with two whole games twice, right, I am.

753
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm getting wistful all over again. Just think about this.

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Speaker 1: All right, we do we have to take it at

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Speaker 1: what we're sitting here going at each other's throats about

799
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Speaker 1: Bowl loss just to have gotten that monkey off this

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Speaker 1: team's back? Yes? How about a devastating NFC Title Game loss? Uh?

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Speaker 1: You know, all the all. It's easy to say that

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Speaker 1: right now, but I don't know, man, Well, if they

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Speaker 1: I might not ever well if if you're if you're

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Speaker 1: asking about a fan standpoint. Yeah, Danny White got this

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Speaker 1: team to three consecutive NFC title games and they lost,

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Speaker 1: and no one thinks of him as being a really,

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Speaker 1: really really good quarterbacks true because he didn't win the

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Speaker 1: big one. Don Meredith went through the same thing, right,

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Speaker 1: the guy's names up in the Ring of Honor, but

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00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: he couldn't win the big one, and he finally said,

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00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm out of here. I'm tired of that.

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00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, and the same thing. Tony Romol was good, right,

817
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: but didn't win a big one, and so it Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it destroys what you think of the guy. That's not

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00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: where I was planning on going, but it's probably it's

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Speaker 1: something worth mentioning. Is like or or you tell me

821
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: how you feel Dak Prescott inching into that category of

822
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: when you're gonna when you're gonna win a big one?

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Speaker 1: Or am I wrong? You are correct? You are correct.

824
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: Isaiah's like hiding over there. Isaiah doesn't want to say anything.

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00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: He's a bad word around here. When you say anything

826
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: bad around Dak you get freaking spears thrown at you.

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00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: I mean I'm okay. I mean I mean I've be

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00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: getting them thrown at me for the last two years,

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00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: so I mean I'm probably fine on him. Oh hey man,

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00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: you got paid and where you started it right when

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00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,959
Speaker 1: you first came in, and then what you were able

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00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: to accomplish from your first year, and then you just

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00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: you just assume that it's going to continue to go up, right,

834
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: And I think that's part of the expectation for the Cowboys.

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00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: And then he gets paid, and now the expectation is

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00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: really there right for Yes, you have to be able

837
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: to make your offense score more than seventeen points when

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00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: is current's time. You have to be able to win

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00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: those games that are against the good teams that people

840
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: may not expect you to be able to win. And

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00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: if you don't, then, yeah, you're inching towards those same

842
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: guys of like, hey man, when it comes down to it,

843
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: are you really good enough to win those type of games?

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Speaker 1: I drive. I am a driver of the DAK train.

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00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,959
Speaker 1: I wore I absolutely yeah, the license and everything I gotta.

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Speaker 1: I am licensed, like what's the Allison transmission that, like

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Speaker 1: the big rigs have I got I speak, I speak it.

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Speaker 1: I've been in favor of paying Dak since at least

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. I'm glad they got the deal done. I

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00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: still think that he is capable of doing that. But

851
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: much like Kellen Moore, I like, I don't think you

852
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: have a voice but to just not like, not admit

853
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: that you're wrong. But it's just kind of like you

854
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta hold the l for the time being, right, Like,

855
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here. If you don't believe in Dak,

856
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: I would say, it probably means that you haven't believed

857
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: in Dak. Like, I don't know that Dak lost people

858
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: over that game. I think the people that already didn't

859
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: like him, it just confirmed their priors. But then the

860
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: people like me, I'm just like, yeah, what am I

861
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: supposed to say? I mean, he's on a forty million

862
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: dollars salary. You should be able to lift your team.

863
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding to comeback in here, quarterback coaching coach,

864
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: how much would you pay this dude to just leave

865
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: right now? Brothers in high school, come on back here,

866
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: be the quarterback coach because the year that that that

867
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: and his ability, his ability to read and make the

868
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: make the right throw John Kitting, that holds people accountable

869
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: just so so so talking about spicy, Yeah, that's a

870
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: spicy comment talking about Dak. He put up thirty points

871
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: against Green Bay as a rookie in the playoffs and

872
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: it wasn't good enough. Why defense? Defense? Right, Okay, falling

873
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: into a twenty one three hole doesn't help. But yeah, right, um,

874
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: what what happened against the Rams? They got They just

875
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: got pounded into the turf by C. J. Fing Anderson

876
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy three yards rushing. Yeah, it's not

877
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: on the quarterback, right, okay? And in this game, was

878
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: it his faulty got sacked five times and hit fourteen

879
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: times trying to throw the ball partially, Okay, I don't

880
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: think he's see what you're doing with you guys are

881
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: ignoring the biggest factor in that game that that offensive

882
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: line was horrible. So you watched the film and I did.

883
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: I went back and watch you and you've seen him

884
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: make mistakes and bad reads. The read on the interception

885
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: to Cedric Wilson was a bad re not because the

886
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: office of Line it was. It was. But quarterbacks do

887
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: get intercepted. No, no, I'm saying, but but this is

888
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: what we start getting when you're making when you're making forty,

889
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: we're saying the expectation making bad read no and cover

890
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: four when the when the safety is coming to Yes, absolutely,

891
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: that is an easy read. They're in cover four, you're

892
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: running the tight end through. The safety has to come

893
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: take that guy. Yes, that is to me, that is

894
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: a forty million dollar guy. He should be able to

895
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: make that read and cover for wide receiver. Let that

896
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: dB across his face. You got talking about y'all might

897
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: be talking about one play and I got another one. Yes,

898
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm a former. Well I got another one and I

899
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: got about fifteen of them. Throne. I need fun, right,

900
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: I absolutely needs to hear the former quarterback talk for

901
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hierarchy or you know, how

902
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: things are being facilitated on that side of the building

903
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: in terms, once a play call comes in, I would

904
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: imagine that he has full rain to change things right

905
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: and make alterations change. I would imagine that he has

906
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: that power, being that that's the expectation with the defense

907
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: that he was being presented. He didn't change the plays

908
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage the way in which I

909
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: saw that he should have. If you have a fourteen

910
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: yard route when these guys are playing eight yards off,

911
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: the hell with that first and second down, I'm throwing

912
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: a five yard hitch easy, throwing a six yard under easy.

913
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes your officeive linement, you have five offensive linement and

914
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: a running back in the backfield, you can only block six.

915
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: You see they're bringing seven. There's no their man right

916
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,479
Speaker 1: there in the slide is uncovered. Throw him a hot route,

917
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: tell him don't come off the ball, tell him turn

918
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: and look when if that man comes hot, look at me.

919
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: There's things of that nature that I see when during

920
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: Dak's game, how about just a screenplay to a CD

921
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: Lamb It turned out to be a first down ball

922
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: location was trash ball. Location took CD Lamb two three

923
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: yards behind the line of scrimmage when he should have

924
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: caught ath linic scrimmage. But then to just get that

925
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: thing up and give him ability to get more yack

926
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: yardage because by throwing the ball old way back here

927
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: on his back shoulder, that dog on a linebacker named Warner,

928
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: he happened to have another five yard he can close

929
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: the gap. Things like that that are so precise. I

930
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: feel like Dad can help this team in this organization

931
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: be more successful. I don't know the president or the

932
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: focus as being applied to that. Because we didn't see

933
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: any drastic improvement in that regard. People are going to say, oh,

934
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: the calf injury. I hear you. He didn't want to

935
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: cross the line of scrimmage. Dad doesn't want to cross

936
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage to run. He just doesn't want

937
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: to do it for a touchdown. I hear you. That's

938
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: because it was it was it was. It was booty

939
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: button take it open, but but may but running back through?

940
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 1: How many other opportunities did he have to move the chains?

941
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: By the way, there's no downside when you can slide. Well,

942
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: he slid on the last play and the guy jumped on.

943
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: I hear you. I think you're cough buttons on Mac Yeah,

944
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: I hear you. But I'm saying there's there are plenty

945
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: of opportunities that were to he can move these chains.

946
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: And I don't know. Again, I'm not sure what's being taught,

947
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: so I can't I can't speak to that, but I

948
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 1: do know that there are plenty of opportunities with quarterbacks

949
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: that I've played with, right opportunities that I've had. I've

950
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: sat in the meeting rooms with Tom Brady, I've been

951
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: on the field with Tom Brady, Westwalker, Randy Moss. I

952
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: know what the expectation was. I know how many adjustments

953
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: were made on the field. There are plenty of times

954
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: whe're on the field, Westwalker would change our release, Randy

955
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: Moss would tell me to do something different. You're right

956
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: TV twelve. You look at me and tell me a boom.

957
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: I forget what we're doing that head now right now?

958
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: You know what that means. I mean, I'm getting you

959
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: the ball right now. There are a lot of adjustments

960
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: that happened on the field that the quarterback is in

961
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: control of the ball location. TV twelve. There was a

962
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: bad ball. I'm sorry I put that on you back

963
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: should I should have put on your front shoulder. He

964
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: knows that that makes the difference in making a play

965
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: versus not making a play. I don't think that that

966
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: emphasis is being applied, and I'm not sure that internally,

967
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: and this is just me speaking, I don't know internally,

968
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's being held to that level

969
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: of accountability. When you bring up John Kitten, that John

970
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: Kitten that holds people to that level accountabilit He don't

971
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: give a dog on what you're making. Gook, I got

972
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: one thing. I got one thing, all right, let's not

973
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: disregard because I know just because one person said it.

974
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: It's not just that one guy. It's something that has

975
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: been see Buddha Baker walks off the field and says,

976
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: this is what we knew about dak in this offense.

977
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: If we showed them one thing, we knew that we

978
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: can get them to check into something that was favorable

979
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: to us. What the whole game do you think Booda

980
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: is the only person who knew that? So why didn't

981
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: the other team stop the Cowboys from being the top

982
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: scoring team in the league. You're talking about Philly, there

983
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: was missing sixteen people. No, no, are you talking about

984
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: to watch the football team. I'm not. I'm talking about

985
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: scoring thirty points. That's twenty nine points against Tampa Bay

986
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: that helped going on the road, help winning an overtime

987
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: game in New England, that helped them number that be

988
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: the number one offense, Those fifty point games that helped

989
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: them be I understand that I understand the point thing,

990
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: but they were scoring points. I'm not another game. I'm

991
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: not saying so you're basing everything on this one game. No,

992
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: that's the Arizona game. That's the first we talk We

993
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: were talking about San Francisco. Now I went back to

994
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: the Arizona game. I told you that a guy who

995
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: stud film said, we knew how to get this guy

996
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: to run certain certain tuffs. Those other teams didn't. Everybody

997
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: don't have Boote Baker. Everybody don't have it. Everybody don't

998
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: have it. Everybody don't have my different defense. That's what

999
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: my point is. What's the point. So when they came

1000
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: up againting good defenses, they struggled. Yes, and it's it's

1001
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: all the quarterback. No, I'm not saying it's all the quarterback.

1002
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: He said. We don't know if it's an emphasis on

1003
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: what what what checks are being made, like what is

1004
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 1: available to DA when he walks up to the line

1005
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: of scrimmage once he sees a certain look. Those can

1006
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: be mistakes that are made on the offensive coordinator. Those

1007
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: also could be that checking into the wrong stuff because

1008
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: he believes that the defense is running something that that

1009
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: they're not running like I look at something like a

1010
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: like a buffalo, the buffalo again and they freaking torch

1011
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: Josh Allen had over three hundred and some yards five touchdowns.

1012
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: But what did he do that with? Everybody's gonna talk

1013
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: about his touchhowns he through. Everybodys gonna talk about how

1014
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: many yards he through for. But what did he do?

1015
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: Really well? He took what was given to him. Yeah,

1016
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: and when you take what's given to you, you alter

1017
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: what that defense now can do to you. I don't know.

1018
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: I saw him throwing the ball down the field. Who Josh, Yeah,

1019
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna do that, you know, but you but you

1020
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: know why. You know why because when he forces their

1021
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: hand when they're playing a certain coverage and no, obviously,

1022
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: if you want to play that coverage, fine, I'll take

1023
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: these five six yards on the ground now, guess but

1024
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: now you have to change your approach. Okay, so tell

1025
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: me this. Do you are you suggesting to me that

1026
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: the Cowboys don't have to do anything going forward with

1027
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: that offensive line? No, no, no, no, no no no no.

1028
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: The whole left side. No, the whole left side from

1029
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: the center, the center and left guard position has to

1030
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: be addressed. That's a that's a glaring hole. And the tackles,

1031
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: the tackles are playing, they're playing well, lay columns, they're

1032
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: playing well. They're not playing all pro lyle Colins. Well, no,

1033
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: I mean the tackles are probably disappointing relative to their salaries,

1034
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: but like, you're not going out there like we can't

1035
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 1: win with these guys. What defensive end caused your issues

1036
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: versus those two Off the top of my head, I mean,

1037
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: I'm saying they're playing well. Your problems came from where

1038
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: they're lucky interior. They're lucky, Bosa got her, they played okay,

1039
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: and then they also both missed the time throughout the season. Absolutely,

1040
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: Now that's that's something that you have to address. But

1041
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: I'm talking about that's not a glaring hole. Claring hole

1042
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: is inside your interior. When you think about the teams

1043
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: that we played against and where the pressure came from,

1044
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: Where did it come from it? Yeah? Inside? Yeah, you

1045
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: got your two youngest guys in the middle of the

1046
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: middle of the offense. Do you think we should have

1047
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: been able to win that game even though we had

1048
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: that offensive line that we had out there, Yes, that

1049
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: that's that's I don't believe that the offensive line is

1050
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: the reason why we're sitting here on Wednesday saying that

1051
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: we don't have a game next. If you want to

1052
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: keep running the office away what you're running it, yes,

1053
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: they will be. Do you think I want to because

1054
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: now you're asking these guys back and protect for three

1055
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: or four seconds when you know they can't do it,

1056
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: which I mean that is a separate issue, which again

1057
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: it's so frustrating that we just don't know what's going

1058
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: to happen. I mean, Kellen Moore, I think you're probably right,

1059
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: but we still don't know that. I want to ask you,

1060
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: because you touched on this with the Josh Allen thing,

1061
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: do you think Dak has a patience problem? Because he's

1062
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: talked about it a few times over the course of

1063
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: the second half of the season when they were just

1064
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: on this up and down ride. He talked about being greedy,

1065
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: trying to force chunk plays that maybe weren't there instead

1066
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: of just taking what was in front of him. And

1067
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 1: I want, like we talked about, to Callen Moore, I

1068
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: have to go. I have to go to who's his teacher,

1069
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: Callen Moore. Ain't that that's who spends the time with him?

1070
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: That's his mentor at this point. And now even though

1071
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: he was underneath him none the depth chart, now he's

1072
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: his dog on coach, and whatever the coach is teaching you,

1073
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna show up on the field. If the

1074
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: coach is saying, hey, drive the ball down here, we

1075
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: have opportunity for players down here versus this coverage. We

1076
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: want you to go down here, fourteen sixteen, eighteen yards

1077
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: down the field. No, take that one, Take that one.

1078
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: That's the reason why New England was so good for

1079
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: so dog on a long Wes welker am, and don't

1080
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: those guys will pick you apart. How do you defend

1081
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: five yards off the line of scrimmage? It's hard because

1082
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: now if you do that, now guess what going over

1083
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: the top of your head. But as long as you

1084
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 1: don't do that, what they're gonna do. Mick, I'm playing

1085
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: twelve fourteen yards off because I know you don't have

1086
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: the patience to work the way. I know you don't

1087
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: want to throw that guy. You'll throw it to Shoults

1088
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: every so often, but y'all know you don't want to

1089
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: give it to him. I do. I just wonder if

1090
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: there's like an because dak He's so competitive, you can tell.

1091
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: And I just wonder if there's an element of like,

1092
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: you don't think I'm worth the contract, you don't think

1093
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: I'll ever walk again after breaking my ankle. Watch this.

1094
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: You have to watch that as a competitive sure, but

1095
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: you also have of course, And I mean Tom Brady

1096
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: is notorious for being like competitive to a psychopath degree.

1097
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: But you gotta you gotta check it in the name

1098
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: of like doing what the defense is. Absolutely he will.

1099
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: That's why. That's why the teams that he plays that

1100
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: he obviously commands are so hard to beat. They bring

1101
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: in they lose the freaking Leonard Fournete when they bring

1102
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: in who your body? Bernard? Hey, come come from the house. Man.

1103
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: What you're doing over there? You playing Madden? But you

1104
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: can come over her help. I'm gonna throw you a

1105
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 1: couple swing routs and I'll tell you a couple of drops.

1106
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: But you think about Lenifournette. What was Lenifournette coming out

1107
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: of college? Just a bulldozer? We're not talking about he

1108
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: did not catch Let's play off, Lenny. He caught the ball.

1109
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 1: I think he's like third on the bucks and receptions

1110
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: this year, behind Godwin and Evans wild now. So I'm

1111
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: so so addressing. I think everything keeps coming back to

1112
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore for me, For me because I think he's

1113
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: in charge, even though that'smyer and all that stuff. As

1114
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: a called quart in the quarterback coach, I think he

1115
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: is a huge obviously of being an offensive coordinator. He

1116
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: has a huge impact and impression on DAK and if

1117
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: he if he makes it a point to work on

1118
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 1: his aspect of the game that he needs to improve,

1119
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: I think we will see that translating to DAK and

1120
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: ultimately see that translating to this offense is a development.

1121
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm with you because even to Mickey's point, I'm like

1122
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: when even so, if you go into the game knowing

1123
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: that your offensive line is at a disadvantage, then you

1124
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: have to find him just to do things that that

1125
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: doesn't put them in those situations on a consistent basis, right, right,

1126
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: And so like we used to say, when well, I

1127
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: guess it was, what was the game when Tyron Smith

1128
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: is out? We're playing Atlanta absolutely right, and everybody's we

1129
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: come back and we're sitting here on Monday, and like, man,

1130
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 1: why didn't give any help? Right? You? As an offensive

1131
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: coordinator have to know, hey, man, we need to put

1132
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: a tight end. That wasn't killing you know what I'm saying. No, no, no,

1133
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not saying it's killing. But we

1134
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: got on JG for that man, And I know, right,

1135
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: but as an offensive coordinator, you say, listen, why is

1136
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: it like if you know you're going into the game

1137
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: with this guy right and you know what he can

1138
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: and can't do, or after the first quarter you realize

1139
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: he's getting beat like a drum, figure out call some

1140
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: plays you have, some have to call some places in

1141
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: there were Yeah, man, we got a tight end. This

1142
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: will come over. We're gonna max for take, We're gonna

1143
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: do X y Z. Actually we're getting five sacks that

1144
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: gave up that was on the offensive line. Coach. He

1145
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: insisted that this will work out. And they finally got

1146
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: to the second half and screw your advice determined that

1147
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: was a lie. Yeah, he lost his job, Yeah, as

1148
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: he should have. Right should have. I mean Adrian Claiborne

1149
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: earlier this year, I think he's with the Browns now

1150
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: like one of the games tyring miss like it got

1151
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: announced that he was out in Adrian Clayborne I think

1152
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: it was the Falcons game this year. He like quote

1153
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: tweeted on Twitter and was like, get after it, my guys,

1154
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: Like that made my career. Basically, it made all the

1155
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: money he needed to make because he was a free

1156
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: agent paid you never heard from him again. I think

1157
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: both of all of all of this can be right.

1158
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean, the offensive line got embarrassed on Sunday, but

1159
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: for where he is in his career, what we've seen

1160
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: that he's capable of, Like Dak has played some amazing

1161
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: football for this team. Oh, not taking anything away from no, no, no,

1162
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: but but the offensive line was a problem and it

1163
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: needs to be addressed. But I agree with y'all like

1164
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: the players were there to be made. You needed twenty

1165
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: four points, you didn't. He didn't get into this shootout

1166
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: where you needed thirty eight points to win. He needed

1167
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: one more touchdown and you and your question was is

1168
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: he inching toward that? Like yeah, And I'm like yeah, Well,

1169
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: I mean if you have to look at at the

1170
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: route that we've taken, yes, getting there, but not getting

1171
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: over the hume. You guys is where they are. Y'all

1172
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: know you you all know how this goes because of

1173
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: who they are like, if you don't love the Cowboys,

1174
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: you hate them all. My friends went to LSU. They

1175
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: were burying me in memes about Joe Burrows got as

1176
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: many playoff wins as Dak Prescott. And I was like,

1177
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: I can't say I got nothing. I can't say anything

1178
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: to you. It's just no excuse. And that's that's the

1179
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: show right there. Now, that's the show. Uh. You know

1180
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: they went out there, they beat Kansas City with the

1181
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: offensive line, and they want to they want to playoff

1182
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: game with the offensive line. But at the same time,

1183
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: that same team has two one thousand yard receivers and

1184
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: a thousand yard rusher who they lean on all three

1185
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: of those and they make sure that in the tight

1186
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: end is good and they get them all the ball.

1187
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: They make sure all of them. See Higgins Jamarta's I

1188
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: can't I always miss is it usman? I forgot? Is

1189
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: our highest is our second highest paid offensive player, the

1190
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: highest the highest receive receiving receiver. Honest team. No, nope,

1191
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: it's nope, you know, nope. You gotta be to get

1192
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: these guys the ball. Did he even did he even

1193
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: flirt with a hundred catches on the year? No, but

1194
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: it didn't come close to a million one point one

1195
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: a game, right, something like that. Twenty on the year,

1196
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: you said you should be able to get that. No.

1197
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: Two three million a year, seventeen games right somewhere around there.

1198
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: It's over a million a game. It's a lot, but

1199
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: you're not ensuring you gave him that because of his

1200
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: ability to do what catch the ball, catch the ball

1201
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: and make plays. And the quiet guys is telling you

1202
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: he a kudos to Marie Cooper, kudos to a Mariy Cooper.

1203
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:38,959
Speaker 1: That was I was here with TiO. Obviously, TiO caught

1204
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: a lot of backlash for how he expressed his frustrations.

1205
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: He went about it in a certain way. Everybody has

1206
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: their ways of going about it. TiO does it one way,

1207
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown does it another way, Odeo Backham does it

1208
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: one way. Right, everybody has their ways. Amari Cooper was

1209
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: sitting here screaming. That was his version of screaming, get

1210
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: me the dog on ball. I'm frustrated. There is no

1211
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: excuse for alcoho only do what I can do. I

1212
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: can't throw it in catchen. You hear all these little

1213
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: things that he said, he is he is. I rate

1214
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: right now that he didn't have an opportunity to help

1215
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: his team win, and that this coordinator didn't find more

1216
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: creative ways to get him the ball. Because when you

1217
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: think about the number one receiver for any other high

1218
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: caliber offense in this league, do they have a problem

1219
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: getting the ball regardless of the defense, Not at all.

1220
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: Just keep throwing at him. Freaking at Cooper Cup right

1221
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: on un and sixty. I mean, you go down the

1222
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: dog every team. I don't get Kansas City. Who do

1223
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: you think about when you think about Kna City? Kelsey

1224
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: and Hill, go go through, go keep going. I mean

1225
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: Minnesota got to him. They gonna raiders renfro Davante Adams

1226
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: is the only guy in Green Bay's offense that scares anybody,

1227
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: and he's still caught one hundred and twenty three passes

1228
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: this year. You know that the teams were going into games.

1229
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: This is a problem for him, This is a this

1230
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: is a problem. So you're suggesting not cutting Cooper. You

1231
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: better not cut Coop. I'll have a I will have

1232
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: a fit. Have you listen if the problem the problem

1233
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: is right, I don't listen to If the problem is

1234
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: not Coop, The problem is the guy that's trying to

1235
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: get the ball too, Coop, if you are going to

1236
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: if you are going to pay these dudes, if you're

1237
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: gonna pay a guy one hundred million dollars a running

1238
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: back ninety million dollars, your offensive coordinator better be prepared

1239
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: to get them dudes to the rid. But if they

1240
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: if they're not, then why are they here? If Cooper

1241
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: was in Kents City, what would he be doing? But

1242
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying though, So, so what's one are

1243
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: you going to do? The last year that got him

1244
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: the ball? Yeah? Yeah, I think he had nine years

1245
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: I think got the ball. So what happened this year?

1246
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: We talked about this on the break the other day,

1247
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: I think, and I get it. And it was the

1248
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: same quarterback. By the way, I'm not talking about QB.

1249
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: I'm talking about that. That was almost the same offensive cord.

1250
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: The idea of like, we have so many weapons, we're

1251
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: gonna throw it where the defense isn't is no in theory.

1252
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: It's a good idea right in theory, but it can't

1253
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: be And for that matter, you can't just target to

1254
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: Mari twenty times every game either. But there's got to

1255
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: be some give and take here, Like there's got to

1256
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: be a determined effort to be like like and playmaker.

1257
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean Amari for one, but I mean CD too.

1258
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: It's like we have we didn't target CD until the

1259
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: third quarter. Like that should just never happen. That it

1260
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: just can't. That can't happen. You can. You can target

1261
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: to Mark Cooper almost every third down. Every third down

1262
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: when you force the defense to get a man to

1263
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: man you have an opportunity to target to Mary Cooper

1264
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: or CD Lamp. You should be able to delegate what

1265
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: the defense is. Right, absolutely, check were checking into stuff

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Speaker 1: that that isn't right. They tricked us into chicken into

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Speaker 1: something that just got to pick six on magistrates. Maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe they overthought it there. Oh absolutely, I really, I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate the way we were all kind of we

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Speaker 1: were down here when the show started and we just

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Speaker 1: ramped it, ramped it all the way up. Mickey, gets

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Speaker 1: you right. I'm Ky get you right. That God saw

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Speaker 1: the crawler there. But they had the interview for the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins and then they had Kellen Moore and Dan Quinn

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Speaker 1: on which So tell me this, um, if you were

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Speaker 1: a head coach and you were looking for a team,

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Speaker 1: which quarterback or which team has a quarterback that would

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Speaker 1: trust to go to. I am making it has the

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Speaker 1: best quarterback. I'm making a bee line for Chicago because

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Speaker 1: I think Jacksonville's just to desfollow. Yeahs too, but I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about as far as quarterbacks, Trevor in terms of organizations.

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Speaker 1: I had to say, what's happening with the Watson. I

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Speaker 1: don't even want to touch that. I don't know. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like he's out well, he's out there. Yeah, I guess,

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Speaker 1: I guess. I think if I think if they get

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Speaker 1: B Flow, I think he stays yeah. Just I mean,

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Speaker 1: it depends on what do you have there at that point,

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Speaker 1: because that's probably your best option is having I think

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Speaker 1: if he goes to having a quarterback, if B Flow

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Speaker 1: goes to Houston, which I think will happen, I think

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Speaker 1: he stays, Yeah, they find a way. If he's there,

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Speaker 1: that's probably and he's able to play, then that's probably

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Speaker 1: your best bet for having a guy. Although you got

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Speaker 1: a d with the GM down there, that's well, that's

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Speaker 1: his guy. I was there with Nick Nicko Sarria was

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Speaker 1: my receiver's coach when I went to do I mean

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Speaker 1: Houston at this point to Houston at this point is

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Speaker 1: basically Foxboro South. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And Brian

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Speaker 1: Foes is a New England guy. If he gets his guy,

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Speaker 1: he won't be calling down in the middle of the

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Speaker 1: game and telling him here's what we need to do here. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's to Danny's point. I mean, Denver's got the best

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Speaker 1: roster of any team with an opening. But unless you

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Speaker 1: can promise me Aaron Rodgers is signing there in May,

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Speaker 1: I don't want any part of it. I think Denver

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Speaker 1: is about to have Manning Family's about to take over

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Speaker 1: to the Denver Yeah. No, I think you're probably right. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's getting sold, Yeah, I think I think the Manning

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Speaker 1: family is about to buy it. Lots of questions that

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Speaker 1: would be interesting. Yeah, desperately trying to end the show,

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Speaker 1: and y'all are just like, no. Then they'll raise their

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Speaker 1: nephew who's getting ready to college. Right, right, he's good.

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Speaker 1: Arch Arch is going la. Shoot, don't even worry about it.

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Speaker 1: I heard yesterday it was either Georgia or Texas. That's right. Look,

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Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna the news cycle is going to flip.

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Speaker 1: Do we do we get to do this again? I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's gonna be another split show tomorrow. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna be on it. I know I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking up of guys. Have the day off tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We got the day come on. But Mike McCarthy's gonna

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Speaker 1: talk at two pm Central on today, Wednesday. When what's

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Speaker 1: the first question? My god, I don't know, David. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to, Dave. It'll be. It'll be,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure, So stay tuned for that. This was

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Let's let's enjoy it. Let's do

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Speaker 1: this more off for Danny, Isaiah, Mickey. I'm Dave. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening. We'll catch you all later. This has been

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Speaker 1: a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Football Club.