1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Batcheler Happy Hour. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: We are so happy to be back. We are going 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: to be recapping Hometowns Bachelor in Paradise. We have two 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: guests this week, Jess and none other than the one 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: and only Cat. Cat has been involved in all the 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: Paradise drama. I would say she's probably the TV maker 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: of the group. What don't you? 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: I feel like when it all started going down with Kat, 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: there was a lot of like what is going on here? 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: But over the last two episodes, I've like grown very 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: attached to her and like grown to love her as 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: like an entertaining person on this beach. 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: Well, well she's just doing so we'll get into it. 16 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: I got a lot of thoughts on Jess. 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say even like I think it 18 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: was this the episode that we're recapping right now. It 19 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: was like when Cat came on like thirty minutes and 20 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, thank god, I know. 21 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: I was like, where's Kat, Like what's going on? Like 22 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: I need to know what she's doing right now. 23 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 1: But first let's get into it. Because we we have 24 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: golden hometowns. We do have a little bit of a 25 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: different dynamic. Usually we see the person meeting the parents, 26 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: but now we see the person meeting the kids and 27 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: the grandkids, so it is it is different. It was 28 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: very entertaining. I really enjoyed it. Let's get into it. 29 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: So three women left, Faith, Leslie, and Teresa up. First. 30 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: We are in New Jersey where we are meeting Teresa's family. 31 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 1: She has two sisters, a daughter, the daughter's husband, and 32 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: her grandkids. 33 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: Correct, and her daughter is so sweet. They're clearly very close. 34 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: She says that this is the first time she's meeting 35 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: a boyfriend of her mom's since you know, her dad passed. 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: And you can tell that they have a really really 37 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: close relationship. I mean, she says, they talk like every 38 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: single day, So I can imagine that this is a 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: bag of emotions. 40 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: For her watching it. And you had a lot to 41 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: say about about the whole situation, and I was really like, 42 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 1: this would actually because you're like, this would be really 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: hard and usually like a it would actually be really tough, 44 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: Like I put myself in her daughter's shoes, and I 45 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know if I would be able 46 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: to handle something like this. 47 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: I feel like out of the entire episode. 48 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: The family member that like stuck with me the most 49 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: was Teresa's daughter, just because I can't even imagine like 50 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: losing my dad. You know, years go by, my mom 51 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 3: goes on this dating show. I can't talk to her, 52 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: and this is the first guy she's bringing home, and 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 3: I'm like vetting her boyfriend slash future fiance, and like, 54 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: you know, Teresa looks so happy, so I can imagine 55 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: that made her family feel so good. 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: But then like bad dance her heartbroken. 57 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: But also bad at the same time, and like she's 58 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: like she's talking about fall with this guy, and the 59 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: last time her daughter seen her in love was with 60 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: her with her dad. 61 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: I know, stop, we can't. Yeah, it's really amoment. 62 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: I mean it's tough, but at the end of the day, 63 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm assuming she wants her mother to be happy and 64 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: absolutely and this would be would be the way to go. 65 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: But one thing I noted it was I believe it 66 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: was her Her daughter asked Carrie if he's in love 67 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: with Teresa, and he said he doesn't know, if he's 68 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: falling in love with her. 69 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: Yes. 70 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: I was, well, what do we think about that? 71 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: I was, really, I can get it back by that 72 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: answer because she didn't ask are you in love with 73 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: my mom? She asked are you falling in love with 74 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: my mom? And for him to say, I don't know 75 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: if I'm falling in love with your mom or not. 76 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: I don't know if maybe he just got nervous. It 77 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: was the first hometown date. 78 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: I'm not really sure what that answer means. 79 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: And he I feel like he worded it or phrased 80 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: it in a way of like, I don't I don't 81 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: know if I'm falling in love because I don't know 82 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: what falling in love feels like anymore. 83 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: Yes, right, I did, he did. 84 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how to take that 85 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: because then we hard. 86 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: Because I do feel like he's been and we talked 87 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 3: about this last week, so expressive with Leslie and with Faith, 88 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: and I just feel like he's not as expressive about 89 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 3: his emotions for Teresa. But I do feel like they're there, 90 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 3: So that's what's throwing me off. But maybe I'm wrong, 91 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: Maybe they're actually not there. 92 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: There's something there's something off about about this relationship or yes, 93 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: so it doesn't. Yeah, it's different. It's a different dynamic 94 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: than Faith and Leslie. Yes, Like I don't know if 95 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: it's because maybe Teresa doesn't need as much reassurance as 96 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 1: the other women. 97 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 3: Maybe it could be that maybe because she does seem 98 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: very confident in their connection. Yeah, especially at this point, 99 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: like seeing her with him, with her her family, like 100 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 3: there is a sense of just like happiness and ease 101 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 3: to her in the state. 102 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: So I don't know. I was super taken aback by that. 103 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 104 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: The sisters are super happy and supportive, and Gary gets 105 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 3: really emotional and they just say, you know, Teresa is 106 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 3: so so happy. 107 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: We can see that. 108 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: I really I just have questions because I believe he. 109 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: I believe he is falling in love with her. I believe, well, 110 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: we know he is so like let's you know, he 111 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 3: says it in his ITM. 112 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: He says it is. Yeah, he says that in his 113 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: interviews that he is. Maybe he didn't say it, and 114 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: I think you might be right because it was the 115 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: first hometown and he didn't know if he wanted to 116 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: say it to anyone. I'm assuming he was potentially prepped 117 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: for like, hey, you know, you probably shouldn't say I 118 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: love you to anyone because there are still three women left. 119 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: Out the window that would be My best guess is 120 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 3: when he was asked that question, he did not know 121 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 3: if he was going to be opening up about his 122 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 3: feelings to that level or not, and that's where his 123 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 3: answer came from. 124 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: But the daughter is really emotional. 125 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 3: She says she it doesn't change how much love we 126 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 3: have for my dad, and it doesn't feel that weird. 127 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: And she's like really emotional and item which kind of 128 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 3: just sums up like the day and how she felt about, 129 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: you know, meeting this guy that's now dating her mom 130 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 3: and saying that it doesn't feel weird, I think is 131 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 3: a good thing. It feels like, you know, that he 132 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: could be a part of their lives and that Teresa 133 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: is ready to find love, and she says that she 134 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 3: loves Gary, and Gary in his interview says that he's 135 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: in love with Teresa and she could be the one, 136 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 3: which we've seen him say now about Faith and Teresa, 137 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 3: that they could. 138 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: Be the one Gary's for everyone. Okay, well then let's go. 139 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: Let's go to Faith's hometown in Washington, kind of in 140 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere, super rural, yes, yeah, yes, horses. 141 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: Faith has two sons, her sister, and her grandkids are 142 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: all there. This was more of a I'd say, more 143 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: of a fun dynamic between all of them. The sons 144 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: were really getting into it. Everyone seems super happy Faith. 145 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: They were basically saying Faith never really I think the 146 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: sister said Faith never believed in love. 147 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: I think she said something lines of lines of like 148 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: I feel like I always date men, but I never 149 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: fall in love with them. 150 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: Was that what it was? 151 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, something along those lines. Gary tells the sons he 152 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: kind of thinks he's in love with I think he said, 153 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: I kind of think. 154 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: They asked the sons asked if Gary is in love 155 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: with Faith, and he said, yeah, I kind of think 156 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: I am. 157 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And then the sister said is her heart safe? Okay? 158 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: But then like they basically called Gary out in front 159 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: of her. 160 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: In like the group, like they're all hanging out and 161 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 3: he's They're like, the sister is pushing for that I 162 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: love you, which I kind of liked because I don't 163 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: like it. 164 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: But at the same. 165 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: Time, like there was definitely an an ailes of peer 166 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: pressure in the moment, and he's. 167 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: And you see the flip to him in his interview 168 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: kind of like, well, what was I going to say? 169 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I mean, he says it. They're 170 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: all they couldn't be happy. 171 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: She says it. She says it back to him. It's 172 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: a magical moment. They kiss, and then Faith in her 173 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: interviews at the end of the day, is crying out 174 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: of fear that you know, this may not work out 175 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 3: and she's scared of losing Gary, which I think we 176 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: see that excitement and all the women, but that fear 177 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 3: is starting to really sink in as well, and I 178 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: think Faith is feeling that. 179 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: Now, if you are in Gary's position in that scenario, 180 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 1: what do you think you'd do? 181 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: If I'm kind of feeling I guess a little bit 182 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 2: of a push to say I love yeah, do. 183 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: You got you? Kind of get put? I mean, he 184 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: got put on the spot there. 185 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: I mean, truthfully, I have no idea what I do 186 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: in that moment, because on one hand, like if he 187 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 3: does love her, if he believes he's in love with her, 188 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: like maybe he's just like, screw it, I want to 189 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: be honest with my feelings for this girl, and maybe 190 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: he was planning on telling her anyway, and this moment 191 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 3: felt right. But at the same time, I don't know 192 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 3: what would you do? 193 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I know what I'm going to say that 194 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: I would do I don't know if I would actually 195 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: do it, but I feel like I would be, like, 196 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, the first time that I say this, I 197 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: would like to say it in private with your mother 198 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: and I with your mother, And I do want to respect. 199 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: The really put yourself in your shoes right now, like 200 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: you're picturing yourself in this moment. 201 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: I also want to respect the fact that there are 202 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: two women laugh. So I just don't want to say 203 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: it at this time. All I could say is I'm 204 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: really into you totally. 205 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: And look, that's a great answer, and that's the textbook answer. 206 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: I feel like, you know what I mean that. 207 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would say that, and then 208 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: I probably could. 209 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 3: Have gotten I feel like a lot of people would 210 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: think that that's what they would do, But if you're 211 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: in the moment, you're feeling it. And I think he 212 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: did kind of fall in love with three women here. 213 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 3: I think it's it's hard, you know. At some point, 214 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: I feel like all the leads decide they want to 215 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: throw caution out the window and just lean in. And 216 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: I feel like that was Gary's moment this season of like, ah, 217 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 3: I'm just going to say how I feel whatever. I'm 218 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: tired of censoring myself and I'm just gonna let it. 219 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: All out that. Okay, But then, but after that happened, 220 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: now let's look back. Do you do we think that, 221 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: let's say this was the first hometown, do we think 222 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: that he would have said it to Teresa? I do? 223 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: I think if Teresa wasn't the first hometown, he would 224 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: have said it to her. 225 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, So now we go to Minnesota 226 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: to meet Leslie, her brother, she has three kids, three grandkids. 227 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: We do find out that Leslie's dad passed away when 228 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: she was sixteen. Her brother picked her up from school, 229 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: broke the horrific news to her. I mean, so just 230 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: the just the heartbreaking story. 231 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so it seems like her brother has really 232 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: taken over that kind of father figure role for her. 233 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, since she was sixteen. I want how old did 234 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: they say? How old her brother is? How much older 235 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: he is than her? 236 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, but if I had to guess, I 237 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: would I would say it's probably not more than ten years. 238 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, No, I definitely didn't think that he. 239 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: Did tell Gary he would give his blessing. I mean, 240 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: I thought this was I thought this was a really 241 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: nice hometown. I like both of I like all her 242 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: her kids. I thought they handled it very well. They 243 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: were funny, they had light hearted. 244 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: All the families had such like a lie loving, warm dynamic. 245 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: All the kids seem to like really care about their 246 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: moms and just want what's best for them, want to 247 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 3: protect them, like it really was. I feel like hometowns 248 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 3: on The Bachelor and The Bacherette often have kind of, 249 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of protectiveness over this like 250 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: parent child dynamic, and. 251 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: I feel like. 252 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: The kid to parent dynamic that we're seeing here, it 253 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: just has given more of like a loving, positive feel 254 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: for the hometown episode. 255 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I feel like they're all very and they are, 256 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: but they're all handling this in a very mature like 257 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: I don't. 258 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: Know, it's not easy. It's really awkward. 259 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way it's easy. It's definitely strange. Also, 260 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: like Leslie Prince wrote tiny Dancer for her. 261 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: Sexy dancer, Sexy Dancer, Tiny Dancer the Selton John but 262 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 3: still also I don't think he's dating Leslie. 263 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably not. That is that is pretty pretty crazy. 264 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, we. 265 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 3: Knew that though because they said that in the intro pack. 266 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 3: Leslie's intro package included that, but I think a lot 267 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 3: of people missed it and they're now reiterating it here, 268 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: which honestly is like the coolest thing ever. And anytime 269 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: anyone asked you a fun fact about yourself, you're like 270 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: set for life. 271 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and also Gary, Leslie tells Gary she loves him. 272 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: Gary says it back, So now he's now he's openly 273 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: said I love you to two women. Two women have 274 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: set it back, three women have said it. 275 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, all three women have said that they love Gary. 276 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: Gary has said I love you to Faith and to Leslie, 277 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 3: not yet to Teresa. Yeah, but he has said it 278 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: in his interviews. 279 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So now we get to the best part 280 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: of the episode. 281 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: This was so the best part. 282 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm so happy that I know a lot of people 283 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: go back and forth like Jesse should know or does 284 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: how does Jesse not know? But I believe that the 285 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: show's keeping Jesse in the dark for some of this, 286 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: and it's great because his facial expression here. So we 287 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: see the women get to the mansion for the Rose 288 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: ceremony and walk up to Jesse and Jesse basically every 289 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: woman basically says like he said, I love you, and 290 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: I set it back and you see Jesse's face. 291 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the. 292 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 3: First woman he's like, oh wow, okay, and then the 293 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: second one he's like, oh wow, okay, what's happening here? 294 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: Gary? 295 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh so that that was very funny. He's definitely 296 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: got himself in a little bit of a gem rose ceremony. 297 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: It's Leslie gets the first rose and it's between Faith 298 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: in Teresa, and then we see Gary leave upset. He's 299 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: tearing up. 300 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: Which he's not tearing up, he is crying cry, which 301 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: having an emotional moment. 302 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: You know, I think you said it. You're kind of 303 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: like that moment. As hard as it is for you, 304 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: it's worse for them. 305 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 306 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: I don't want to be too hard on Gary here 307 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 3: because I do understand like he is in such a 308 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: difficult position and he's about to really really hurt someone. 309 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: But as someone who's been a contestant on this show, 310 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: like standing at a rose ceremony, if I'm Faith or 311 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: Teresa and I'm so anxious, I know that there's a 312 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: like a fifty to fifty chance if I get that 313 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 3: rose now and he leaves, I'd be really upset. I'd 314 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: be like, come on, man, like you have to hold 315 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: it together until the end of this rose ceremony, because 316 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: now you're just putting them through more and more moments 317 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: of agony. Like you need to just stand up there, like, 318 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: hold down those tears, rip the band aid off, and 319 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: give that personal conversation closure and then take all the 320 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: time you need to have. 321 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: Ye have your cry. 322 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: Like I'm not trying to discredit how hard his role is. 323 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: I just like when he walked out, I was like, no, please, 324 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 3: don't do this to them, and both of them are 325 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: so in love with him. 326 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: Like I just really felt for the women in this moment. 327 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: I agree, it's a rough, rough situation all around. And 328 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: then yeah, we basically get left on a cliffhanger, because 329 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: why wouldn't we at that moment. 330 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: I know, I really wasn't expecting the cliffhanger. I was like, 331 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: come on, who's going home? 332 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: We will see We will see who goes home next 333 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: next episode. We also have the women un till all 334 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: coming up. But yeah, that kind of wraps it. Great hometowns. 335 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun, very very cool to 336 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: watch to kind of see rolls all reversed as far 337 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: as meeting the children instead of the parents. Okay, let's 338 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: move on to Bachelor in Paradise. 339 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: This was a really eventful, jam packed episode. 340 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: Like I have like three pages of notes for this 341 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 3: episode because there was so much happening. 342 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: I didn't want to forget anything. 343 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So the first I would say, the first topic 344 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: of conversation will be the conversation between Tanner in Davia. 345 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: No, No, that literally didn't happen. Really, we didn't see 346 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 2: a conversation with Tanner and Davia. 347 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 3: Interesting, Tanner and Cat, did you. 348 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: Watch the episode? Interesting? Okay, so I don't know. Wow, 349 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: my voice is really sweaking. Okay, So Tanner and Kat 350 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: have a conversation. Uh. The first thing I noted was 351 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: Tanner tells her we have different personalities and I'm not 352 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: sure I see what I want a wife in you. 353 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a harsh line from Tanner for sure. 354 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 3: I mean Kat kind of says, I wish that we 355 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: talked before you said yes, that's my biggest concern, Like 356 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 3: I wish you pulled me aside, said like, would you 357 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 3: be okay if I went on the state And Tanner 358 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: says that they have the same values but different personalities. 359 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 3: And she doesn't have wife qualities or qualities that he 360 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: wants and a wife, which I think he could have 361 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 3: delivered that a little more gently personally. I think he 362 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 3: could have gone with something a little more generic, along 363 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 3: lines of I just don't see us as a fit. 364 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: I don't see us as being compatible. I have a 365 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 3: stronger connection with Dobby. I'm gonna explore that. 366 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a little straightforward. We see Kat and 367 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: her interviews like, I'm literally so much better than you. 368 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: He did not just break up with me. And then 369 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: I felt like the rest of this conversation. I don't 370 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: know if you feel the same, but I feel like 371 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: the rest of this conversation was like battling for who's 372 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: actually breaking up. 373 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like Tanner was ending it with Kat 374 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: and she basically went, no, I'm ending it with you, 375 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: and he was like, no, I'm ending it with you. 376 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: And that was like the whole second half of this conversation. 377 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 3: Like Kat was like I don't want you either because 378 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 3: I can't trust you, and yeah, Tanner was like I 379 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 3: want a date for clarity, and I got it, And 380 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 3: like Kat basically is trying to declare in her interviews 381 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 3: like the breakup is mutual, but like he just had 382 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: the chance to break up with her before she broke 383 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 3: up with him. 384 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: I do, however, I do feel that is how I 385 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: actually think that part of that's a good quality. I 386 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: don't know, good quality to have, but a strong quality 387 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: to have, because I feel like that is how Kat 388 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: is able to get over a sad or a hard situation. 389 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: Much quicker is she flips it as like I don't 390 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: care now, I don't care now I'm moving on because 391 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't care about you, And she's able to turn 392 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: that switch very foch. Yeah. 393 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 3: And my thing is is there's a lot of people 394 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: who will actually who will say like, oh I don't 395 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 3: care about them, I'm over it, but like they're clearly not. Yeah, 396 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 3: she actually is like once she's done, like we saw 397 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 3: it with Brandon and now we're seeing with Tanner, Like 398 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 3: you're right, she flips the switch and she's like, I'm 399 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 3: over it, I'm onto the next. 400 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm kind of like that as well. I could 401 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: kind of do that. I could do that, but then 402 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: I struggle for months after. But I could flip a 403 00:19:58,880 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: switch pretty quick. 404 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like you're talking about like long 405 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: term relationships, like she did only date these guys for 406 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: three days. 407 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm just saying in j I'm saying kind of 408 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: any situation, okay, Yeah, Like when you get bad news, 409 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: like even if it's like work related or anything, you 410 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: kind of get bad news. I'm pretty good at like 411 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: being upset immediately and then flipping a switch and being like, Okay, 412 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: nothing I could do, which. 413 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: Is arguably kind of healthy. 414 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: Like she definitely goes off and like is really upset 415 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 3: in the moment, but then like really kind of is 416 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 3: like all right, I let it all out onto the 417 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: next thing. Like in her interviews, she had a couple 418 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: of funny lines that I wrote down. She wrote, you 419 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 3: don't even open mouth make out, and then she said 420 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 3: I've dated enough assholes to know when I see one, 421 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: which I don't know. 422 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: I don't think Tanner's an asshole. I really don't. 423 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 3: But the fact that they weren't open mouth making out 424 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: for three days is definitely a red flag to the 425 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 3: future of that relationship. 426 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I mean, yeah, I don't. I don't. 427 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: I I don't think Tanner's in the wrong at all 428 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: in this. 429 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 3: No, I don't think did anything wrong. I think it's 430 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: for the best that they're not together anymore. I think 431 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 3: the convo was like overall just kind of like unproductive. 432 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they both have moved on. Tanner is now 433 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: with Davia and Cat is about to figure things out 434 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: on the pape. 435 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 436 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: The one thing we know about Kat is she's she's 437 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 3: going to figure it out. 438 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: She's not leaving. 439 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 3: I respect that she has yet to be like I'm leaving. 440 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 3: She like, I have yet to see her try to 441 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 3: like leave the beach like I feel like we saw Genevieve. 442 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 3: Genevieve has like a similar personality to Cat. I feel 443 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: like and like her reactiveness, and Genevieve was like always 444 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 3: trying to leave. 445 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: You're saying Genevieve from. 446 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 3: Genevieve, I'm sorry from last season. Yeah, like Genevieve and Erin. 447 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: Well, no, I actually disagreed. Genevieve tried to leave multiple times. 448 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: Cat has what I'm saying. 449 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Genevieve literally like packed her bags and is 450 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 3: like running through the jungle pass trying to get in 451 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 3: a van, and Cat's like. 452 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: I don't care. 453 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: Cat's like I'm moving in. 454 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 3: I'm literally moving into the to whoever's is available. 455 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: Like we're we're now in a relationship, but it. 456 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: Truly is I believe that that is a good quality. 457 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: She has the quality of like she gets Yeah, she 458 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: gets fucking knocked down and she gets back up. 459 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 3: She's not I feel like I feel like what's saving 460 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 3: her is like in her mind, she's not knocked down. 461 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 3: She's like, no, I broke up with you. I'm thriving 462 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna go find someone better. 463 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 2: THEEO. 464 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so now we have we see just in the morning, 465 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: she puts on like a new bathing suit because she 466 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: wants Blake to notice her. And then we have a 467 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: new woman on the beach. Her name is Genevieve. 468 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: She's from zach Sea. Really did not see much of her. 469 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't see much of her, but she comes down. 470 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: It seems like all the guys are are pretty interested. 471 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: She has a conversation with Blake. Blake basically the vultge 472 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: is probably a little too much information about his situation. 473 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 3: Blake's flirting tactic in this convo was maybe non existent. 474 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 3: I feel like their conversation from what we saw, really 475 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 3: just revolved around him giving her a full debrief of 476 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 3: what's happened. 477 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: With him and Jess's relationship. 478 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: So Genevieve goes back and she's like, well, I'm still 479 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: into him. I want to take out Blake, and she 480 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: asked him, and Blake goes has a conversation with Jess. 481 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: Their dynamics kind of awkward right now. 482 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: It is awkward. 483 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: I feel like the convo felt like they maybe don't 484 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: have the best communication, yeah, because it just felt like 485 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 3: neither one was like leading the convo because. 486 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: He said he threw it at her like you want 487 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: to go first, and she's like, well, why would I 488 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: go first? You just said yes to a date. 489 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 3: And then yeah, I agreed with her on that one, 490 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 3: but I do think, like. 491 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: I don't also don't have an issue with Blake. I 492 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: think Blake should have went on this date, absolutely, especially 493 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: after the conversation he had with Jess. 494 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 3: Well, I feel like Jess in this moment, and I'm 495 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 3: very excited to talk to her because I really do 496 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: just want more context into what's happening behind the scene 497 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 3: with their relationship. But it's kind of looking like she 498 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 3: wants her cake, and she she wants to have her 499 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 3: cake and eat it too. She wants to have Blake 500 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: on standby but she wants to go on a date. 501 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: She wants to go explore, but she like doesn't want 502 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: him to go explore because she does like him. Like 503 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: it's just feeling like one foot in, one foot out situation, and. 504 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: Blake, I don't get that from her. 505 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 2: She was definitely no. She was definitely upset when he 506 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: was talking to Jen. 507 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, upset, but I don't think she was gonna she 508 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: said it like I'm not gonna like it's only fair 509 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: if you go on. 510 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: I mean she's being logical, but I think she's still upsetly, 511 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: she still has she's still jealous. Like I for some 512 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: reason thought Blake getting asked on a date there would 513 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 3: be some level of like relief and excitement to have 514 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: like some space, like what wants Yeah, Like I thought 515 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: she might be like, I like, yes, this is a 516 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: good thing for us, like you should go on the date. 517 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have some space, and like, well we'll go 518 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 3: from there. But that wasn't her reaction. So maybe she 519 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: likes some more. And it looks like but Blake told 520 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 3: Jess it was nice to feel wanted and he wants 521 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 3: to like really lean in on the date with Jen, 522 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 3: basically saying like I don't feel wanted by you. Yeah, 523 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: And Jess seemed kind of like caught off guard by that, 524 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 3: but like I was like, I wouldn't really feel wanted either. 525 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: Yes, but in the same breath, I kind of put 526 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: that on both of them. I do feel like I 527 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: don't know, how do we don't know enough about how 528 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: they are alone or with each other, But it does 529 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: seem and I think even Tanner said it. 530 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 2: Tanner did say it, it seems. 531 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: Very surface level and every time we see them, they're 532 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: just kind of like sitting talking. 533 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, it's very much like they sit next 534 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 3: to each other, but it doesn't seem like the relationship 535 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 3: is like moving along. 536 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 537 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 2: I don't know. 538 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 3: Okay, So so Blake's getting ready for the date, Blakes 539 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 3: getting read for day. 540 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: In the interim, we see Kat's. 541 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 3: She's back and she's better than ever and she's on 542 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: to the next man on this beach. 543 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: She is going for John Henry. 544 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 3: And we have a great clip of Brandon in his 545 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 3: interview going Kat is homie hopping, which kind of is 546 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: what's happening here. 547 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: But it's paradise, I mean, it's. 548 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you're supposed to explore your supposed toptions look 549 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: for love and she's not finding it, and she's like, 550 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 3: that's fine, I'm gonna try it with another dude. 551 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And we also see Kylie kind of like egg 552 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: the situation on as well. 553 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Kylie is definitely like pushing for this to happen. 554 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 3: And you said some people were watching it that I 555 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 3: wrote down that you feel like after the Kylie versus 556 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 3: Olivia drama at the very very beginning of this season 557 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: with well, the girls that are close with Kylie are 558 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 3: like not team Olivia, I think, And there's like, yeah, 559 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 3: I think there might be advisor to it. Seems like 560 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 3: from Kylie and Kat's perspective, like they don't care that 561 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: Olivia's Dan John Henry, like there's no like girl code 562 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: in this situation. 563 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: Like they're all over it. They're like who cares? 564 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is like kind of fair or whatever. Oh. 565 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: And then another another big thing we see as Kat 566 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: tells Eliza in the bathroom that Eron she heard from 567 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: Charity that Aaron B is a bad guy and has 568 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: ex'es back home. It's the timeline is confusing. Even when 569 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: Aaron B and Eliza did talk, I don't know it's 570 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: kind of like he was dating someone before the show. 571 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 3: Well let's get into that come a little bit later. 572 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, we do see kind of like the start 573 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 3: of that drama of them hiding in the bathroom having 574 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 3: a chit chat. 575 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: And I think Eliza. 576 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 3: Handled it pretty well, like she seemed to take the 577 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 3: information like and like hold off to have a conversation 578 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 3: one and one with Aaron b. But she definitely took 579 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 3: it seriously, like she wasn't about to just blow it 580 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: off as like nonsense. 581 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: How do you feel that Kat told her? 582 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: You know what? 583 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 3: At first, I was like, why is she doing this? 584 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 3: But then kind of what I thought about it more, 585 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 3: they don't know Eliza, like they weren't from the same season. 586 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 3: It's not like they're coming on here with like a 587 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 3: friendship prior. So like as they've gotten to know her more, 588 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 3: she's probably felt a little bit more of a sense 589 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 3: of like loyalty and obligation to tell her. And also 590 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: like if I'm in cat shoes and I see Eliza 591 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: in aar and B talking, I don't know if I'm 592 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 3: dropping that information on like day one or two, because 593 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 3: it might not turn into anything, like they might go 594 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: their separate ways and then who cares? But like Eliza 595 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 3: and Aar andb have now become like one of the 596 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 3: most serious couples on the beach. And if Kat's like, Okay, 597 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 3: I've kind of formed this friendship with Eliza. I know 598 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 3: this information. This seems like it might be something serious, 599 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: and from what I know, he hasn't told her yet. 600 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 3: I feel like maybe it's a time to share that 601 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 3: with her. 602 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: Well why not share it? 603 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 3: Though? 604 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: Why not share it to the whole group? Are that first? 605 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: You know, when everyone's circled around talking about like who 606 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: they're into. If you're going to share that information, maybe 607 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: you share it to the entire group, Like, hey, I 608 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: heard this. Don't know how true it is, but it's 609 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 1: coming from who I believe is a reliable source. Just 610 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: the heads up for everyone, like if you're gonna do it, 611 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: maybe do it then. Yeah. 612 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 3: I like in the girls room when they have that 613 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: like chat on the first day, I mean, I think 614 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 3: there is like a sense of loyalty and like maybe 615 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: some teams going on with the girls group though, and 616 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: like a lot of the girls on this beach are 617 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: from Charity season yeah you know, yeah, and also majority 618 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 3: of them probably already know. But yeah, I don't hate 619 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 3: that strategy either of just being like I'm putting this 620 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: out here day one, this is what I heard about 621 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: this guy. Do what you want, to do what you 622 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 3: want with it, versus like waiting all the way till 623 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 3: like week six. 624 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: Okay, So then we have a new girl comes down. 625 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: Her name is Becca. She's a Night one girl from 626 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: Zach season. Yeah, I believe Zax season. Night one girl 627 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: from Zach season talks to a bunch of guys. She 628 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: asks Braiden out. So now we see Rachel. So this 629 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: this situation is interesting because I do really I feel 630 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: bad for Rachel because I feel bad for her because 631 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: she's been through a lot within this franchise with dating 632 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: guys this It hasn't been the easiest for her, There's 633 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But Brandon walks up to her 634 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: to have a conversation, and instead of having that conversation 635 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: and to at least BenOp and tell him how she feels, 636 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: she basically blows it off and says, it's fine, you 637 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: don't have to check on me. 638 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, she she literally she wouldn't even like go sit 639 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 3: and talk to him, like he walked over to pull 640 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 3: her and she was like, no, no, no, you don't 641 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 3: have to check in on me. 642 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: It's fine, Like go have fine. 643 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: And I think that's that's that's her ego getting in 644 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: the way, and I get it, like I would probably 645 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: have if I was her, I would probably be the 646 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: same way. I would probably be like, that's fine, just 647 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: go do your thing. But that in the same breath, 648 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: like you cannot be upset with him for doing it 649 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: if you're not going to tell him how you feel. 650 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like the moment, like having a 651 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 3: conversation before going on a date is like a powerful 652 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 3: moment to be a little bit vulnerable and like leave 653 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 3: this person with the lasting leave that person with a 654 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: lasting impression of how you feel about them, and kind 655 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 3: of have be in their minds when they're on the date. 656 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 3: And I feel like the way Rachel blew it off, 657 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: I do think it was her ego a little bit, 658 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 3: because I do think she's into Branden and I think 659 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: she just didn't want him to. 660 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: Know that. 661 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 3: Well. 662 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:52,719 Speaker 1: I just think Rachel's probably tired of being vulnerable in 663 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: these situations and then still getting hurt. Yeah, because that. 664 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: Is what's happened to put her guard up for sure. 665 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is what's happened to her multiple times on 666 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: the show. Oh so now she's just kind of like 667 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: no but unfortunately, yeah. 668 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: Like whatever, if you want to go on the stage, 669 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 3: just go have fun. I'm not doing this again. 670 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see how that turns out. Tyler grabs Jess. 671 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: The talk Tyler with somebody just was interested in. They 672 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: both seem to like each other. They're being flirty. Tyler 673 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: ends up grabbing her and kissing, kissing her, she kiss 674 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: him back. Now we flip to the date with Blake 675 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: and Genevieve. They're having a great time. They're making out. 676 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 3: So, yeah, he seems into her. He like describes her 677 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 3: very well. He says she's mature and inviting, and he 678 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 3: seems excited about the date. So Jess is making out 679 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 3: with Tyler and Blake's making out with Jen And honestly, I. 680 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: Don't know where that relationship's going at this point. 681 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 3: I don't know what either of them wants. I don't 682 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 3: know who either of them likes. I'm like, literally so 683 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 3: confused by the whole thing. 684 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then yeah, but basically back at the beach, 685 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: we do see Rachel is sad, but again, like it's 686 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard because I feel for her in 687 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: this situation and I get it, but like I do 688 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: wish she would have said something. 689 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, she does say like she feels weird and she 690 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 3: wished that he had like given their relationship more of 691 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 3: a chance, which unfortunately, this is another situation where like 692 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 3: it's just like back to back dates and like bad timing. 693 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 3: But I mean, I wonder how she felt watching it 694 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 3: back because like Braiden does say, you know, this date 695 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 3: blows yesterday's date out of the water, and he's like 696 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 3: really into Becca, and I feel like this is the 697 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 3: first time I've actually seen Braiden like really expressive and 698 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: into someone. 699 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: Well, he did seem that he could be into Rachel. 700 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 3: No, he did seem into Rachel for sure. But I 701 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 3: feel like they showed a lot of Rachel's IM's interviews 702 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 3: about Braiden, and we didn't see as much of Braden's 703 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 3: interviews about Rachel, Whereas on this date we are seeing 704 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 3: a lot of what Braiden's saying behind the scenes and 705 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 3: how excited he is about the state. 706 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so now we get we get a reaction out 707 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: of Olivia because Kat is now grabbing John Henry, Olivia 708 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: tends to in my opinion, I like her. I think 709 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: she's funny. I think she's a great narrator, but when 710 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: she gets hurt, she ends up taking things a little 711 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: too far. As far as like the way she talks. 712 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 3: About something, I agree completely because like when things are 713 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 3: good and she's commenting on other people's drama or she's 714 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: making fun of herself, she's so good and she's so funny. 715 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, with Kylie and Will and now with Kat 716 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 3: and John Henry, like she does, her interviews do go 717 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 3: a little too far. She gets a little too hurtful 718 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 3: in my opinion, with what she's saying about people. 719 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: And it's because she's hurt her yeaheah, but like it's 720 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: it's almost like you just need to dial it back 721 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: just a little bit because you're good and like you're 722 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: like Olivia, I almost want her just to like like 723 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: she gets two phased by the other women in these 724 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: situations where we see her finally grab John Henry. And 725 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: I think John Henry likes her. I do too, I 726 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 1: do too, and they kiss and like it and it's good. 727 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: So if she she like has to and. 728 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 3: They like she said I like you, he said, I 729 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 3: like you back, like he said, you're my number one. 730 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 3: Like I almost want her to just have just to 731 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 3: chill out, Like I don't think she has to has 732 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 3: anything to worry about. I feel like she might be 733 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 3: her own worst enemy in these situations a little bit. 734 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: I think so too, because I do think I think 735 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: she likes Jean Henry and I think he likes her. 736 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 3: But she's also probably a little bit triggered because like 737 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 3: it happened to her once, it happened her in the beginning. 738 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe, but I don't know, like. 739 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 3: I I and Kat is like going for John Henry. Yeah, 740 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 3: she's not just like pulling him once, like she's been 741 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 3: after him all day. So she's probably feeling a little 742 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: protective over her relationship. 743 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is fair. I just I just I just 744 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: for her sake, I think she just needs to focus 745 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: more of her energy on her relationship with John Henry 746 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: instead of letting it, you know, go a little more. 747 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 2: To me, Yeah, she's really let Kat get under her skin. 748 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, what you can't do because because Kat's good at 749 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: that and it's it's it's gonna be to her own detriment. 750 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, because eventually it will. 751 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 3: If Olivia continues like cat get under her skin, it's 752 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 3: going to trickle into her relationship with John Henry, and 753 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 3: it's probably gonna end up being what causes him to 754 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 3: go to Kat over Olivia. 755 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: If that's what ends up happening. 756 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: Yep, okay, So. 757 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 2: Right now they seem pretty good. 758 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because so obvious. See Aaron B and Eliza 759 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 1: finally have a conversation. If you're confused, it's fine, we're 760 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 1: all I actually. 761 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 2: Wrote down the timelines. 762 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 3: I wrote down exactly what he said because I wanted 763 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 3: to figure it out. So he said he had an 764 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 3: ex that he broke up with in August. Then he 765 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 3: had another girlfriend after that girl that he was on 766 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 3: and off with, and they broke up in Jim and 767 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 3: he got the show call for the show in December. 768 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 3: And then I wrote, I think it's okay dot dot dot, Like, 769 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 3: I don't really fully understand what's happening, But. 770 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 2: What do you think? 771 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 3: Do you think Eliza needs to see it as like 772 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 3: a huge red flag? 773 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: No, I don't. I actually think Aaron B is I 774 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: almost think he needs to be a little more confident 775 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 1: in his delivery that he didn't do anything wrong because 776 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: I don't think he did anything wrong. 777 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 3: I think because his delivery was so confusing, because he 778 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 3: seemed nervous, it made him look guilty. But like really 779 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 3: breaking it down, like I don't know if he has 780 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 3: anything to be worried about, question mark. 781 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: I don't think so either. But Charity is here, she 782 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: comes down. 783 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 3: Wait can we talk about one other thing first before 784 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 3: we get into this. Eliza said before going to pull 785 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 3: Aaron B that she hadn't talked to him all day. 786 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I actually marked that too. I was like, 787 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: what why have they why? 788 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 2: Where have you been? Where has he been? 789 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 3: You've both been by the pool all day all like 790 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 3: at this point, like I was with you basically twenty 791 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 3: four seven. 792 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: Yep, that's a problem, Like. 793 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 2: That's that's okay. 794 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 3: That's way more of a red flag than this ex 795 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 3: girlfriend drama. 796 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, could call. Yeah, that's that's. 797 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 2: Like I was a cool you guys hang out with 798 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 2: Like Okay. 799 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 3: It's one thing to be like, yeah, I had lunch 800 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 3: without Aaron today, like, but it's another thing to be 801 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 3: like I literally haven't spoken to him all day. 802 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you're you're you're on the you're on the 803 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: path for engagement. You really have to spend a lot 804 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: of time with this person if you want to take 805 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 1: this thing serious. 806 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 2: Start talking to him all day, Like, start talking to 807 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 2: him more so. 808 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: Charity comes down. She looks great. Everyone's happy to see her, 809 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: except for some of the guys like Aaron b. She 810 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: has has conversations. We see her talk to Eliza, we 811 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: see her grab all the girls. 812 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 3: From Kat and Olivia kind of both funny. That was 813 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 3: really funny. They both are like, I'm dating John Henry. 814 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 3: Well I'm also dating John and well we have a 815 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 3: really good connection. Well, we also have really good tention. 816 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 3: He told me I'm his number one. Like this is 817 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 3: a crazy interaction. 818 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: I want to know what the relationship is between Olivia 819 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: and John Henry before Kat stops in, because we really 820 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: don't like how long have they been talking to Somebody 821 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: is yeah. 822 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 2: That's one row ceremony. 823 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I want to know. How strong that was, 824 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: because like. 825 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 3: I don't I think you can only be so strong 826 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 3: after a few days. I think you got to give 827 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 3: it like two to three rose ceremonies before you can 828 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 3: consider it like a serious relationship. 829 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: Because it is. Yeah, I guess, but like if it 830 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: is a stronger relationship on the beach, which I don't know, 831 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: if it is, like yeah, if I'm Olivia. 832 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 2: I'm pissed, let's ask let's ask Kat. 833 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll ask. Maybe. 834 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 2: She was like no, it was like they barely hung 835 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 2: out and then we. 836 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: See Aaron Bee grabs Cat to talk and that's that. 837 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: Aaron B Is going to lose that every single time. 838 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and well he was just like why didn't you 839 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 3: bring it to me? Like why didn't you tell me? 840 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 3: And She's like, well you already what do you mean 841 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 3: why didn't My question if I'm Kat is like Aaron B, 842 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 3: why didn't you tell Eliza? 843 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 2: Like why didn't you? Weren't Eliza? 844 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 3: Were you just gonna leave here with her and then 845 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 3: let her find out once you leave the show, Like 846 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 3: I don't really know what the conflict is it. Kat 847 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 3: actually handled it like pretty well, like I kind of 848 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 3: agreed with what she was doing and saying here. I 849 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 3: didn't really understand what Aaron B's angle was in this conversation. 850 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 3: I think he's just mad and is just She's just mad. 851 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 3: He's mad that Charity's here, He's mad that Kat exposed 852 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 3: his situation. 853 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 1: Hey, he said these rumors could ruin my life, which 854 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: is really dramatic. 855 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 3: He said, Charity, how keen are you to destroy my life? 856 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 3: I don't think she's I don't think she's keen at all. 857 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even think Charity, really, I don't even 858 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: think Charity would have brought any of this up if 859 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: Kat didn't bring it up. 860 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 3: No Charity coming down to this beach definitely was not 861 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 3: coming down to ruin Airb's life. Like, the only reason 862 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 3: this is happening is because Kat happened to bring up 863 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 3: this information. Charity was the source, and now Charity's making 864 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 3: a visit to the beach. 865 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: I think Karen Ba is just doing I think he's 866 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: doing quite fine. I think Eliza really likes him. I 867 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: think he likes her. I think it's where they didn't 868 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: talk all day. I think he just needs to be 869 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 1: a little more confident in knowing that he didn't do 870 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 1: anything wrong. 871 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 3: If he didn't, I mean, here's the thing his I 872 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 3: don't think he did anything wrong from like what he 873 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 3: said to chair or Eliza. And I think that because 874 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 3: people like your single twenty seven year old dude who 875 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 3: applied to be on the bachelor. 876 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 2: You don't. You're not going to sit around for months 877 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 2: and months after you submit that application being like, well, 878 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 2: I can't date anyone I might end up on this show. 879 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 3: Like he got the call, he probably looked at the 880 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,720 Speaker 3: girl he was dating and went, this isn't that serious. 881 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 3: I'm not going to marry this check We've been on 882 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 3: and off for months. Maybe I'll find lovel with my 883 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 3: life on the show, but it's not in front of 884 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 3: me right now. And it sounds like the breakup was 885 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 3: semi musual, you know what I mean? 886 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: I yes, said perfectly that is exactly probably exactly what 887 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: went on, like. 888 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,919 Speaker 3: Whatever, Like he was dating and then he got the call, 889 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 3: and then he started the process to pretend get on 890 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 3: this show, and then he got on the show. Like, 891 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 3: but the way he's acting is making it seem like 892 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 3: he did something really sketchy. 893 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's he's over dramatic about it. And that's 894 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: why even like with him saying these rumors could ruin 895 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: my life, It's like, it's like the. 896 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,959 Speaker 3: Rumors that I'm hearing can't ruin your life, But maybe 897 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 3: is there rumors that I don't know? Aaron, Like, that's 898 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 3: what you're making me think by like how serious you're 899 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 3: taking this? 900 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he almost It's like it's like laugh it 901 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: off a little bit, like it will it will do 902 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 1: you good to find some humor in this situation instead 903 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: of like, don't take yourself so seriously, like it is, yeah, 904 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: not that serious. 905 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, like everyone has excess. 906 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, but okay, we'll see. And that was a lot, 907 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: a lot went down in this episode. It was great, 908 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: it was It was fully packed. I can't wait to 909 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: see what goes down next week with Blake and just 910 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: more Cat John, Henry Olivia. We'll see what goes down 911 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:01,919 Speaker 1: with there being Eliza, Rachel, Brayden, Becca, There's just there's 912 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: a lot happening with a lot of these couples. We 913 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 1: don't know who's going to stay together, who's going to separate, 914 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: but we'll see. Make sure you stay tuned to that. 915 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: We also have for the Golden Bachelor. Don't forget to 916 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: tune in because we have the Woman Tell All coming 917 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: up pretty soon. 918 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 3: Joe and I had the pleasure of watching the live 919 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 3: taping of The Woman Tell All and it was so 920 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 3: fun seeing all the women together again. We got to 921 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 3: talk to a bunch of the women, so we have 922 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 3: a really fun episode coming for you guys. 923 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure you stay tuned and subscribe to Bachelor 924 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: Happy Hour. That's a wrap, and make sure you check 925 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: out our interviews later this week, Kat and Jess. Bye bye,