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Speaker 1: Right Cosell from NFL Matchup joins us at one o'clock

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Speaker 1: to breakdown quarterback play, including the play of Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: against the Browns last week. And also one of the

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Speaker 1: coming on at two thirty to talk about all the

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Speaker 1: a big show stick around. One Bill's Live starts right now. Oh,

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Speaker 1: good time much Steve Casper touchdown touchdown, touchdown time. Hello, Hey,

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Speaker 1: hello there, that's what I'm trying to say. Hey, welcome

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Speaker 1: to One Bill's Drive. Welcome to right next door to

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Speaker 1: It's the home of the show in the a Pro

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Speaker 1: Sports Training Center. Next door, John Murphy, Steve Tasker, here

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Speaker 1: to do one Bills live for the next three hours.

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Speaker 1: I said it last week, Steve. On Thursday, I'll say

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Speaker 1: it again. I missed training camp, all right. I missed

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Speaker 1: You know the Bills, it's it's worked. That's why they

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Speaker 1: to the show, Steve and I here until three o'clock

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Speaker 1: this afternoon with a good show today. You just heard

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Speaker 1: the lineup. John Miller's gonna join us at the John

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Speaker 1: The offensive lineman starting rightcar for the Buffalo Bills. We

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Speaker 1: Coming up at one great co sell from ESPN's NFL

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Speaker 1: Matchup and longtime producer at NFL Films and then Deem

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Speaker 1: Landino at two thirty today to try to clear out

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Speaker 1: what's going on. There's look, we haven't seen it in

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Speaker 1: the same rows met the in myself. Preseason game number one,

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Speaker 1: can kick them to the curb here in Buffalo because

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Speaker 1: they don't matter matter two bills fans anyway, they listen

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Speaker 1: to me, right, matter right? So right, we don't we

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Speaker 1: don't matter, right, So here's the thing. This is a

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Speaker 1: team with expectations within this building. They they want to

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Speaker 1: get back to the playoffs and make a deeper run

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Speaker 1: than they did last year, and they want to give

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Speaker 1: themselves a chance to win a championship. And I think

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Speaker 1: if you're doing that, if you go with Josh Ownen,

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Speaker 1: you look back across history, what are the chances that

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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback can come in and do it? Ben

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger did it. Um, that's a pretty short list. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that year was different. I mean he didn't start

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Speaker 1: their season and they barely threw the ball, right, they

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Speaker 1: were winning games. He was going he was going thirteen

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Speaker 1: or fourteen of seventeen throws. I mean they were and

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Speaker 1: they did it with defense and Jerome Bettis. Now the

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Speaker 1: Bills have got Lashawn McCoy. I get that, and they

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Speaker 1: got their defense, which actually got gashed in the first

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Speaker 1: series last week. But you know, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they feel like that gives them the best chance to win. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's not about Josh Allen just being in there. It's

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Speaker 1: about Josh Allen in comparison to Nathan Peterman. What's Peterman

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Speaker 1: give you? You know, we've all said, You've all seen

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Speaker 1: him throw those quick outs out there, and it looks

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Speaker 1: like it's a you know, it's a hair raiser every

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Speaker 1: time he throws it because they get jumped. He got

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Speaker 1: through an interception last year in San Diego, he got

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Speaker 1: picked off against Jacksonville. Good corners are jumping that route.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have the velocity to get it out there.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, they're not jumping the route

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Speaker 1: when Josh Allen's in there. That ball's there too quick

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Speaker 1: for them to get there unless they're standing right in

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Speaker 1: front of the guy, and they're never that's a completion.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen give you that, But what else does he

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Speaker 1: what does he not have that Nathan Peterman does give you?

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Speaker 1: I mean it starts to get at be a balancing

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Speaker 1: act um. And does Josh Allen's upside outweigh Nathan Peterman's

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Speaker 1: lack of bad plays? You know, does Peterman? Does Peterman?

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Speaker 1: Is Peterman steady enough to give you enough? Well like

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Speaker 1: Tyrod did last year? You know, he didn't give you

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Speaker 1: that much in the passing game, but he didn't turn

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Speaker 1: it over and he gave you you know, and a

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Speaker 1: couple of extra series with turnovers and you got a

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Speaker 1: pretty good football team. So I'm I'm shocked at myself

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Speaker 1: for having this conversation now because I was just, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just thought it's just crazy road to go down.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, now that AJ McCarron is off

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Speaker 1: the table for the next month or so or whatever,

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Speaker 1: it is certainly not this week and probably not the next. Hey,

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Speaker 1: that you got to start thinking about it. He might

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Speaker 1: give them the best chance to win. He might, He might,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not now. Listen, I the other

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Speaker 1: night I was listening, I said Nathan Peterman should should

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Speaker 1: have started, even if mccaren didn't get hurt. The other night,

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Speaker 1: I thought Peterman was going to be the guy. He's

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Speaker 1: been steadier. Certainly, the bad start that mccarroen got the

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Speaker 1: other night didn't look good for him. But then again,

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Speaker 1: like we said, a lot of that was the Cleveland defense.

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Speaker 1: They were. They were pretty salty, and they came loaded

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Speaker 1: for bear. They didn't pull any punches, and with a

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Speaker 1: with a very simple game plan and a bunch of

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Speaker 1: guys out there on on offense that you know, without

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Speaker 1: a game plan, you're it's gonna give you problems that defense.

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Speaker 1: So it did and they looked like it. So that

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Speaker 1: kind of took mccaren and put him on his heels.

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Speaker 1: I said during the broadcast, I thought Peterman would be

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Speaker 1: the guy an opening day. But now here's the and

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Speaker 1: here's what it gets to. And I'm talking myself through

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Speaker 1: this extra right, extra extra reps because mccaren's not there,

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Speaker 1: Alan's gonna get a lot more reps. Peterman's gonna get

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Speaker 1: a lot more reps. Alan's gonna get better with those reps.

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Speaker 1: And the question has always been, we said it a bunch,

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Speaker 1: how fast does Alan get good enough? And extra reps

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Speaker 1: means all the difference in the next two weeks. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna get a ton of them. Yep, let's hear from you.

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Speaker 1: We want there's a lot to talk about, not just quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: but your takeaways from Friday's game, the victory in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Give us a call eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: or toll free from outside Buffalo one eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty or use twitter on our tweet

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Speaker 1: sheet from one Bills Live team any twenty two His takeaways. One,

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Speaker 1: Allen has earned a chance to start against Cincinnati and

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Speaker 1: then make a decision on Day one starter after the

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Speaker 1: game to the defense is not where it needs to be.

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Speaker 1: Linebacker is very thin on this team and would not

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Speaker 1: be surprised if the Bills make a trade or pick

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Speaker 1: up after roster cuts to improve. Two interesting points there

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Speaker 1: from team any twenty two. So start Josh Allen, he says,

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Speaker 1: against the Bengal Sunday, and then make a decision. You

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Speaker 1: could do it that way. I mean, there's no rule

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Speaker 1: that says who you start this Sunday is your starter September.

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Speaker 1: I see the logic of it, because if the third

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Speaker 1: game is a game where you play a long time,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna go into the third quarter, and if you

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Speaker 1: wanted to, you could just say, Josh, you're playing the

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Speaker 1: entire game. You're gonna get him some and if he

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Speaker 1: starts to play well and plays well throughout that entire game,

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Speaker 1: there you have it. I mean, that's the you're looking

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Speaker 1: for the guy to get experience. You want to get

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Speaker 1: him a big game. Peterman, you know what you've got.

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Speaker 1: You saw him all last year's It's the same coaching

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Speaker 1: staff except for the offensive coordinator. They know who he is.

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Speaker 1: They don't need to find out about Nathan Peterman. And

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Speaker 1: this is the game where you're not going to have

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Speaker 1: much of a game plan. But hey, let's give Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen extended time. Let him get better quick because there's

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Speaker 1: a chance we may need him on September ninth, and

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Speaker 1: we got to get him ready. Let's see, let's see,

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Speaker 1: you know what, you know what, Nathan Peterman is already

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Speaker 1: and you know he could step up and he could

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Speaker 1: start and play or whatever. Yeah, Josh Allen's the question mark.

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Speaker 1: What about Team Anny's contention? The defense is not where

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Speaker 1: it needs to be. Linebacker thin. Wouldn't be surprised if

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Speaker 1: the Bills make a move. First team defense did struggle.

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Speaker 1: The Browns ran the ball extremely well. There were some

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Speaker 1: huge holes, a lot of reasons for it. Team Many

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Speaker 1: twenty two says linebacker is very thin. Yeah, I could

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Speaker 1: see why you would say that. I'm not as alarmed

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Speaker 1: by Tremaine Edmonds play as many people seem to be.

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Speaker 1: I heard questions today. I think he's gonna be all right.

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Speaker 1: I think it was not a great performance one, but

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Speaker 1: I do think he got better as Friday's game went

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Speaker 1: along and more comfortable. And you know, all the attention

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Speaker 1: we put on Josh Ellen, and how does the rookie. Look,

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Speaker 1: Dremine Edmonds is a rookie too, learning how to play

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Speaker 1: in the game, and with a lot on his shoulders

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Speaker 1: as well. So I certainly I wouldn't, you know, close

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Speaker 1: the book on Dremaine Edmonds at all. I think he

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Speaker 1: is the answer at middle linebacker. But there were other

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Speaker 1: things going on defensively, Steve, other things that were not good,

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Speaker 1: especially when the first team is that well that the

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Speaker 1: first series was an atrocity. They were they were they

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Speaker 1: were given up, big holes up inside they got. They

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Speaker 1: just didn't look good, no question about it. But I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna knee jerk react to that. I think once

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Speaker 1: that the next series they came out then they actually

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Speaker 1: played extremely well. The defense did. I think there's no

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Speaker 1: question they had some issues, but I think it's good

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Speaker 1: that they went to the sidelines and to a man,

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Speaker 1: they all said, listen, we came off the field there

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Speaker 1: and we had a conversation about, you know, what had

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Speaker 1: to change, and they got it short up and from

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Speaker 1: then on, even when the first team was in there

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Speaker 1: after that first series, they played really well. So that

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Speaker 1: was probably as good a thing. And I'm telling you, Tremaine,

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Speaker 1: I was surprised that people were all over Tremaine Edmonds

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Speaker 1: after that game. I like what I saw. He played better,

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Speaker 1: I thought in this last game than he did in

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Speaker 1: week one. He was in on more plays and that,

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Speaker 1: and we talked about it on the TV side, his

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Speaker 1: ability to get out and cover up and stop quick

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Speaker 1: screens to the outside where that and we've all seen

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Speaker 1: it where the quarterbacks raises up just whips it out

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Speaker 1: to the sideline to the receiver and tries to get

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Speaker 1: the guy to break, break one tackle and get a game.

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Speaker 1: Edmonds was all over that. What happened was the corner

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Speaker 1: will come up, make a plane, try and tackle the

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Speaker 1: white out, and because there's so much space, it's hard

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Speaker 1: to do that. So the white out has to avoid

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Speaker 1: the corner and by the time he avoids the corner,

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Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds is wrapping him up. He's there. That's how

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Speaker 1: fast he got out there, and that's that's a huge weapon.

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Speaker 1: And I loved what I saw there. U. I know,

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Speaker 1: my boy Darryl Tallely, he was watching it as well,

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Speaker 1: and he was like, listen, they had some pro and

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Speaker 1: he said they had some problems with their reads on

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Speaker 1: that first series as well. But after that they did.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna I'm not gonna like throw my

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Speaker 1: hands up and saying, now the defense isn't gonna be

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Speaker 1: any good. I think they're gonna be Uh, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be fine. I'm not pulling the plug on my optimism

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Speaker 1: about the defense. From the tweet sheet from Colin, he

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Speaker 1: goes as much as I would love the idea of

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Speaker 1: a successful rookie story in Buffalo talking about Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: he was on to say, I fear it bearing in

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Speaker 1: I fear it bearing in mind a rather poorous offensive line,

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Speaker 1: which is also making McCoy look less than a lead.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of new guys, but they have

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Speaker 1: a lot of work to do in the next four weeks. Colin,

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Speaker 1: here's the bad news. It's three weeks out. They do

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Speaker 1: have a lot They gotta get better. There's no question

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Speaker 1: about that. We're gonna talk with John Miller about that.

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Speaker 1: Coming up with a couple of minutes starting right guard.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, McCoy did not look good. The offensive line

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Speaker 1: was not playing well. There is an element of Greg

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Speaker 1: Williams defense. Unlike Carolina, Cleveland played a lot of different packages,

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Speaker 1: sent a lot of different men, on pass rush and

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Speaker 1: lighted up in a lot of different places. Now, that's

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Speaker 1: not an excuse because regardless of what the Bills will

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Speaker 1: see that in the regular season, they got to play

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Speaker 1: better offense. And also they had some guys step into

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Speaker 1: the wrong people. There's just no question about it now,

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, notwithstanding, I didn't see too many guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think most of the problems I saw were mental

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Speaker 1: on communication where you had two guys step into one

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Speaker 1: and the third and the defender came through untouched. Then

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Speaker 1: you had guys, particularly on Josh Allen's touchdown through him

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Speaker 1: Marcus Murphy stepped into the wrong guy and had tried

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Speaker 1: to recover and couldn't. His guy went right around him,

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Speaker 1: and that's who Josh Allen had to sidestep and get

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Speaker 1: around to step up on and throw the football. That

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Speaker 1: was Marcus Murphy's guy, the running back. So they got

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Speaker 1: to get that short up, no question about it. But

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Speaker 1: it was more of who do I got, rather than

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Speaker 1: I can't handle the guy I got? Right call here

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Speaker 1: from NJ and williams Field. Go ahead, you're on the

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Speaker 1: air with us. Hi. I just wanted to talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about how disappointed. I was with mccaren in

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Speaker 1: that first quarter, you know it. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it was the Browns defense that was, you know, playing

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Speaker 1: their a game, or what the deal was, but I

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Speaker 1: was watching it and I was thinking, man, we really

637
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: played better the first preseason game than this one. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know what his issue was, if it was

639
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Speaker 1: our offense or what it was, but I was just

640
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: very disappointed with mccaren. I felt like he could have

641
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: played a lot better, and I expected to see him

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Speaker 1: play a lot better with him being a season quarterback. Okay, yeah,

643
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: you didn't get a lot of help. We were talking

644
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Speaker 1: about that from the offensive line in particularly, didn't get

645
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Speaker 1: a lot of help and Cleveland was playing it looked

646
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Speaker 1: like their full package of defense. Well here's the and

647
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: sipping the kool aid. Tweeted in and he heard something

648
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Speaker 1: of I've forgot about. Mark Kelse was on the morning

649
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Speaker 1: show today and he said, you know, they didn't do

650
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Speaker 1: too much of what they had done in the first

651
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Speaker 1: preseason game. The offense did do most of the personnel

652
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Speaker 1: changes that they did in Carolina, so I think it

653
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Speaker 1: might have been and as it always is, it's a

654
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Speaker 1: ton of different things that came together to make the

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Speaker 1: look Bills look really bad in that first three or

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Speaker 1: four series. One, they didn't give the offense I think

657
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Speaker 1: the XS and o's weapons to be as successful as

658
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Speaker 1: they did at home against Carolina. They kind of they

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Speaker 1: kind of put a lid on what they were actually

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Speaker 1: going to put into into play against Cleveland. And then two,

661
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Speaker 1: Cleveland didn't. They turned it up. They gave their defense

662
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Speaker 1: a lot of different looks and a lot of exotic

663
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Speaker 1: rushes to throw at that offensive line. And three there

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Speaker 1: they got some talented players on Cleveland. So it's I

665
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Speaker 1: think it's a combination of all of that that you

666
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Speaker 1: know that made the Bills look really really poor offensively

667
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Speaker 1: for four series and then consequently as well their defense.

668
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Speaker 1: The Bills defense, it took them at least one series

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Speaker 1: to get under their feet underneath them before they started

670
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Speaker 1: playing like the defense we expect him. I think it's

671
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Speaker 1: important to note too that you know, a J. McCarron

672
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Speaker 1: comes here as, yes, the most experienced quarterback on this roster.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't. He's not George Blanda here. He doesn't have

674
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Speaker 1: a ton of experience. He's got three NFL regular season starts,

675
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Speaker 1: one of the postseason, so he hasn't seen it all yet, right,

676
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean four NFL starts essentially. Um, yes, he's the

677
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Speaker 1: most experienced quarterback here. But you know, what does it

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Speaker 1: really amount to. I think certainly he would like to

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Speaker 1: play better. Hopefully he gets a chance to play better.

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Speaker 1: Here's uh, Rick and Lancaster. Rick ahead, you're on the air. Rick,

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Speaker 1: I think Rick fallen down a hill. Yeah, you're on

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Speaker 1: the air. Rick ahead. Oh yeah, I'm sorry, Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Assuming is not available, what are the chances that that, um, uh,

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Speaker 1: Josh Shannen will start Week one? I think a good chance. Um,

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Speaker 1: if you're asking me, Rick, he'd been on hold a while,

686
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Speaker 1: haven't We've been talking about. Yeah, you're right, it got

687
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: a better than even if mccaren's not available. He's got

688
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: it better than better than even chances. But I think

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's at least a coin flip, and

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be interesting to see what they do

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Speaker 1: in this next preseason game. Now, they may say and

692
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: Peterman has been the guy taking the ones. He's way

693
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Speaker 1: ahead of Josh and a certain elements that the coaching

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Speaker 1: staff likes to see. It might be a little too

695
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Speaker 1: early to start Josh Allen, no matter how well he's played,

696
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Speaker 1: he hasn't had to face the adversity we want to

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00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: see him face in a game. So we don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's gonna be ready, and too many bad things

699
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: could happen for the rest of the squad if he

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Speaker 1: is not ready for that. So they may get to

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Speaker 1: the point where, listen, Peterman just has that much more experience,

702
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Speaker 1: that much more ability to adjust on the fly. We

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Speaker 1: haven't seen Josh handle a lot of these things, and

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Speaker 1: we've seen Nathan Peterman handle him as well as he

705
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: can handle him. So there's that. But I think you're

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Speaker 1: right with aj McCarron down Josh Allen's chances for starting,

707
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Speaker 1: you know, went from maybe twenty five percent to fifty

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Speaker 1: fifty I mean right, So I think it was yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, thirty five percent, thirty five percent, thirty percent maybe,

710
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: and then now it's now it's fifty fifty. It's gonna

711
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: it could change too, Like again the Bills a wait

712
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: to report on McCarron a second opinion on his shoulder injury.

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Speaker 1: We don't know how that's gonna go. As in practice

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Speaker 1: yet this week, yesterday or today, there's no practice tomorrow

715
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Speaker 1: and we'll see they. Yesterday was Peterman's turn with the ones.

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Speaker 1: Today was Josh Allen's turns with the ones. It's been

717
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Speaker 1: fun following this quarterback thing, hasn't it too the last

718
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: three or four weeks training camp? Because we got something

719
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: to talk about. It's fun for you to me because

720
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Speaker 1: we rarely see these things the same way. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk with John Miller, Bill's fourth year offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: who's back in the starting lineup this year. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that, what happened to him last year, why he

724
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Speaker 1: is back now as a trusted member of that offensive line.

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Speaker 1: We'll sit down with him when we come back. Come

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Speaker 1: on back. We've got a lot more to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Your takeaways from Friday's game as well. Give us a call.

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Speaker 1: It is One Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health, where

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Speaker 1: live at One Bills Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back One Bill's Live. We aren't at One Doll's Drive

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Speaker 1: inside the Apro Sports Training Center. John Murphy, Steve Casker

732
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Speaker 1: joined by Buffalo Bill starting guards John Mother. Good day

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Speaker 1: to John, How you doing good to be there? Thanks

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Speaker 1: you guys. Having just off the practice field. It seemed

735
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: like kind of a not a real long practice, but

736
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: there was enough. It's not enough time on the field today.

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00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we was out there getting into last day

738
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Speaker 1: account so a lot of guys out there side it

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Speaker 1: before and just getting better. It gets a little idea

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Speaker 1: what happened that? What were the thoughts were after the

741
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Speaker 1: game on Friday night in Cleveland? Some of your thoughts

742
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Speaker 1: about how it went for the first group in there. Oh,

743
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Speaker 1: you know, we got off to a slow start. Obviously

744
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: you wanted to come out and start fast, but you

745
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: know we came to get as a unit um put

746
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: through it in CalFire. One of the things that surprised

747
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: me defensive Cleveland, they threw some stuff at you. I

748
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: mean they didn't. It wasn't vanilla at all. They were

749
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Speaker 1: throwing some zone blitz is bringing safety at bringing guys

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Speaker 1: out of the secondary for pressure. I mean they did

751
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: a lot of pretty exotic stuff. Yeah, the couple has

752
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 1: already looks right now. But Cleveland, they got a good

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00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: group back there in great defense. They like you said,

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Speaker 1: they do some things out us that we didn't see.

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Speaker 1: But you know that's what preseason for you. You see

756
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Speaker 1: it on Family you make the adjustments and move forward.

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00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: People know that you don't gain plan for preseason, but

758
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: you do smell it. You must have expected a little

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00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: bit different look defensively from Cleveland. Then you got the

760
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: week before from Carolina, just because that's who the Browns are, right, Yeah,

761
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: so you get a couple of different looks. Mainly you

762
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: get some of the things that they want to work on.

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00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: Like you said, we don't really gain plan and make

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Speaker 1: any adjustments or how we want to pick up this pressure,

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00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: what we want to do against this little We just

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Speaker 1: go out there and focus on that fundamentals and getting

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00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: better as a unit. And it's not about about the team.

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00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: It's about us and us going and getting better. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a little A lot of it is how well

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Speaker 1: you guys communicate up front, because once the quarterback makes

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Speaker 1: the calls, you guys decide what the front is. You

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Speaker 1: get a call from the center, you guys kind of

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Speaker 1: adjust there. Did you have some problems the other night

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Speaker 1: adjusting And because some of the exotic things you saw,

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Speaker 1: it asked for a lot more communication than you normally

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Speaker 1: would have to have. Oh yeah, so the community obviously

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00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: started with the center. He comes up, he made the

778
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: mic point, and based off that mic point, everybody else

779
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: kind of know what we have to do. And if

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00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback sees something take the rotation and something like that,

781
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: he would get us in the right adjustment if you

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Speaker 1: want to move us and make a slide to the

783
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: left for the right based off what they bring the

784
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: pressure from hard to play. I mean, you play guards.

785
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: You're kind of hidden down in there around the ball.

786
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Speaker 1: But you did make one play to the night you

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Speaker 1: recover the fumble right, so you kind of ended up

788
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: in the right spot. But it's you guys got to

789
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: keep your mind are you what's your mindset? You're chasing

790
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: the ball carrier? Are you looking to block somebody or

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00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: are you looking just clean up? I mean you just

792
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: you kind of had to be alert. Yeah, so what

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00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: what we do we uh us up front? We take

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00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: prior to covering the ball, you know, whether whether is

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00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: it in compete pass, whether the running back break for

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00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: ten fifteen yards. I might said, we always want to

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00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: cover the ball because you never know what's gonna happen

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00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: if you're chasing it. We were chasing it, so yeah,

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00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: when the when the ball come out, naturally, I just

800
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 1: jumped on it with John Miller. Bill's a starting guard.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned a minute ago about the communication starts with

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Speaker 1: the center, and I would imagine it adds a layer

803
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: of complexity when you have a different center in there.

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00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: You guys had Bodine in there last Friday night, you

805
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: had Ryan Groy the week before, and that rotation continues.

806
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: That can't be easy, always adjusting to the guy who's

807
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: off your left shoulder everything. Um yeah, I mean for me,

808
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: I know the other guys feel feel like this as well.

809
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who's in there. They both great players. Um,

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00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: they both smart baby intelligence centers. So whether Groy's in there,

811
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: where the Russ is in there, no matter who's in there,

812
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: our job is the same. And we have we very

813
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: caught each other and we're trying to build that chemistry

814
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: and build that up and it's just getting better. Yeah,

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00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of offseason focus on the offensive line

816
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: because of the departure of Eric Wood and with Richie

817
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: Incognito going into camp a couple of weeks ago. Did

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00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: you know that? Did you know that people were saying,

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00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what the line is gonna be, Like,

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00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: we lost a couple of veteran guys there. Uh yeah,

821
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't read it to the Blaws and

822
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: I'll lead that up to whoever jobs that is. But

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00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: all we focus on it coming out the game better

824
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: each and every day, UM, and trying to build that

825
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: that that chemistry, uh, focusing on that technique, focus on that,

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Speaker 1: on that crowd, focus on the things that we can control.

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Speaker 1: What that departure of those two has meant for you

828
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: is a lot really a chance to kind of restart

829
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: your career as team. So you look at it like

830
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: that back on the starting lineup now, Uh, you know, yeah,

831
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: it's a it's a new opportunity for me. Um. So

832
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: that's that's my mindset going to this, going to too

833
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: this season, UM, just getting better, focusing, um, being the

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Speaker 1: best that I could be for myself and for my team.

835
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Speaker 1: So it's training camps over. You guys are back here now,

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Speaker 1: you've had a whole off season, ota mini camp, training camp,

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Speaker 1: and a couple of games. Tell us of what you

838
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: think about this offensive Brian dave Ball, it's gonna be

839
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Speaker 1: it's different than you ran last year. It's it's a

840
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: different concept, a different mindset. Talking to us a little

841
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,959
Speaker 1: bit about the first things you notice when you're gonna

842
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: take the field in this offense is supposed to a

843
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: year ago. Uh. The thing about this offense, like you

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Speaker 1: missus Dave Balls. He's a great coordinator, he has a

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Speaker 1: lot of space. He come from a way in the background.

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Speaker 1: And the first thing that I noticed is he want

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Speaker 1: to be aggressive with his play calling and the tempo

848
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: and the mindset just attacked attack the time. Every time

849
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Speaker 1: we step out on the field, of our job is

850
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: to score. So that's what we want to do. And

851
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: you have the offensive line coach back Wine cast Steal

852
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: talk about that. So you have new men at the

853
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: top and coach cast Stile, the group that you work with,

854
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: the coach that you work with your group last year.

855
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: Does that make a little bit easier to transition to

856
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: this offense? Um? For me, I think it make it

857
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: easy because I know the standard that we're trying to

858
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: build here, that we all building here is a playoffs

859
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: caliber and one Costello is a great coach, And Uh,

860
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: I think it's easier for me because I know what

861
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: he inspect, I know what they ball, I know what

862
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: the head coach ispect. So coming into the offense is

863
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: easy Hey, John, how difficult was last year for you

864
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: to begin the year as a starter and then do

865
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: cost replace in the lineup. And I'm sure you must

866
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: have felt what happened? What did they do? Right? Did

867
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: you have moments like that last season? Uh? Yeah, I

868
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: definitely did. But for me, the biggest part was focusing

869
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: on just getting better each and every day. Unfortunately I

870
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: didn't do enough to keep my start job in and

871
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: you have to earn it each and every day. Uh.

872
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: And so stepping into this new opportunity, not that I

873
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: did in the past, but I'm not taking nine for granted. Uh,

874
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: putting my best foot forward and trying to get better

875
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: when those veterans laughed, would and especially incognito. Did you

876
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: get a call from coach Caste or or somebody who said, hey,

877
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: you're in our plans. Get ready for OTAs, get ready

878
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: for the spring. Oh yeah, I got a call from them.

879
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: I was actually looking forward to coming back, um and

880
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: just and just getting better and coming out here and

881
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: getting the new playbook, learning the terminology and stuff like that.

882
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about now it's a different You

883
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,959
Speaker 1: got different leaders in the long. Eric Wood's gone, Richie's gone,

884
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: and now, I think automatically the line got a lot younger.

885
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: Some of the who you know, who's the voice in

886
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: the room now, uh, everyone's the voice in the room.

887
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: You know, we got Meals, he's a great player myself.

888
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 1: You got Girl, you got Russell, you know, you got Flair,

889
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 1: who's who's a nine ten years he's been in the league.

890
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: And you got a young guy and Dion Dawkins who

891
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: you know bringing that swag and bringing the attitude to

892
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: the unit. So we all feed off each other. I

893
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: don't think that no person individually, you know, far as

894
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: being a leader. We all try to take responsibility and

895
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: lead the team as a unit. John, tell me about

896
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: your offseason, especially the conditioning work you did. We your

897
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Speaker 1: work with a guy in Miami, Pete by Morito, who

898
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: we've had on the show a couple of times. He's

899
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: got a unique and and sort of focused workout regiment.

900
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: If you jumped into have you been with him? Just

901
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: this ury with him for a couple of years. I

902
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: trained with Pete bon Ritos when I was training for

903
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: the combine. Okay, so I got a good relationship with him,

904
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: a good growing relationship. But he does a lot of

905
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: different things Um. I love the way that he teaches

906
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: the technique, his speed work, what he do in the

907
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: weight room. You know, it ain't just coming in there

908
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: you're lifting found the pounds. It's smart, it's critiqued, and

909
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: it's detailed, and it's explosive. Working on your hips, working

910
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: on bending in different things like that. What brought you

911
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: back to him this past offseason? Up, I just wanted

912
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: to make sure that I was in the best shape

913
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: that I can be in. So I go down there,

914
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: back to Miami, which is home for me. So I

915
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: get a chance to be close to my family, spending

916
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: time with them, but also get a great workout in.

917
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: And how is your body changed from last year or

918
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: even three years ago when you first got here to Buffalo.

919
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,959
Speaker 1: I think that the biggest thing is my body fat,

920
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, getting that nibber down, um, and just standing

921
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: in the best shape that I can and leaning out

922
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: a little more, but also keeping my strength. That's conditioning

923
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: in nutrition, right if you change the way you eat, uh, yeah,

924
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: I try. I try to change it. But you know

925
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: some days you have those cheap bays, yeah, and you

926
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: want to get those tickt wings being in Buffalo. But

927
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: so it's kind of hard that way, but I do

928
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Speaker 1: try to watch what I eat and try to I

929
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: was reading your bio this morning. Your favorite restaurant in Buffalo,

930
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: Barbill Tavern, And yeah, days of the day when I

931
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: eat salad otherwise on a win. That's why. That's why

932
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: I feel that. So how much how many questions have

933
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: you had answered in your time here about the quarterbacks

934
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: and those guys and you know, compare and contract. I

935
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: knew what happened to Age and he's gonna be sitting

936
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Speaker 1: for a little bit. And now it's down to Nathan

937
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Speaker 1: and Josh. I mean compare and contrast the kind of

938
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Speaker 1: guys they are in the huddle. Oh, you know, they

939
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 1: all different. They all bring something different to the two,

940
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: but they all are specially they all great quarterbacks. Um,

941
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: they all intelligent. Um, so I can't really compare and

942
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: contract it. It's um the start of a new week

943
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: here and the start of a full week. As you said,

944
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: you got in like a training camp style practice today,

945
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: Tomorrow often and Wednesday, it'll be like a regular season

946
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: right getting ready for a game on Sunday. Yeah, So

947
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: it's it's good that we had that like that, and uh,

948
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: we have the day, the tomorrow, sorry, and then we

949
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: go into the White week, which is Wednesday, and then

950
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: we go like that. So it's kind of good. You're

951
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: starting to slowly get into the swing of things that

952
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: had it's gonna be doing a regular People always say

953
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: preseason game number three is a dress rehearsal. To players

954
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: approach it like that. Oh no, I think for me,

955
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: I approached it as you know. I had to mentally

956
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: physically get myself and my buddy ready to go out

957
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: there and perform. All right, John, thanks for Let's appreciate you,

958
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: John Miller, Bill's offensive Line, and Steve and I back

959
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: with more One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on

960
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back, and thanks again to John

961
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,959
Speaker 1: Miller for joining us. Got off on a little chicken

962
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: wing tangent there, but he had a lot to say.

963
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: John Miller joining us, sitting down with a couple of

964
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: minutes ago, and when they came off the practice field.

965
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: I like stories like that. See if I like comeback

966
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: stories like that, and that guy's gotta he's potentially building

967
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: a nice comeback story. He was in his job. He's

968
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: been a little bit of a roller coaster. He struggled

969
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: his rookie year, he got plugged in UM and then

970
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: second year, all the websites say he's the most improved

971
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: pair in the National Football League, and then last year

972
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: he got benched. And so now we're gonna hopefully the

973
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: next step in that road is back up to the

974
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 1: top of the roller coaster, you know. I mean, that's

975
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: that's where he's headed, and that's where he wants to be.

976
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: He's a great guy, and we've got a chance to

977
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: talk to him, bet you know, obviously we spoke to

978
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: him before and after the interviews. Yeah, you cheer for

979
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: a guy like that. He's been fun to talk to him. Yeah, Hey,

980
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: couple of tweets. We're gonna get back to our topic

981
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: of the day, which is your takeaways from Friday's Bill's victory.

982
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: I keep want to call him, I keep wanting to

983
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: call it. I keep wanting to call it a loss.

984
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: It was a win, felt like a loss, didn't you

985
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: know it? Kind of? I don't know. It's weird, weird,

986
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: but we'll talk about it. Your takeaways from that. We

987
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: do have a tweet from a DJ justin We started

988
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 1: off the show talking about Steve's experience with the funnel cakes, right, DJ,

989
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: justin giving us his the benefit of his expertise. Here,

990
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: fried dough is put into a deep friar as one

991
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: solid piece. Funnel cake is the dough put through a

992
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: funnel and layered on top of each so you get smaller,

993
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: crispy your pieces. And then Jose rivera Chinese it fried

994
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: dough is greater than funnel cake. And I don't know,

995
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: because I had the funnel cake last night and it

996
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: was really good. Depends on what you like. I guess

997
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: I've never had either. Miss murf, You're missing a treat.

998
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't need it. It is such a treat. It's

999
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: not it's not about it needs. It's not about need, baby,

1000
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: It's about mummy. That was your second dessert? Was dessert? Well,

1001
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: if you count the soft serve ice like I said,

1002
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: the saucer of ice cream was as big as a

1003
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: football if you count that as dessert. Okay, But I

1004
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: don't really know. I wasn't ready for dessert. It was

1005
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: just something to go on top of the two cheeseburgers,

1006
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: like swift now. The cheeseburgers they were good too, man,

1007
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: it was really good that I'm telling you. Buff and

1008
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: even John Miller Goatji. If you're in Buffalo, you're gonna

1009
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: eat man. Yeah, it is a it is a food capital.

1010
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: It is and the County Fair is like the heart

1011
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: of the matter right there, man, it is. So I'm

1012
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: glad you enjoyed it. Oh my god, all right, breakcare

1013
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: when we come back, Great Cosll executive producer analysts for

1014
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: ESPN NFL Matchup will join us to break down Josh

1015
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: Allen's game, Nathan Peterman's game, some of the other rookie

1016
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks as well, all of that. When we come back,

1017
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: come on back with me and Steve. We're here till three.

1018
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's

1019
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: Radio Hills Radio Network. Stories update, Bills went through a

1020
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: Monday practice today here at One Bill's Drive. They've got

1021
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: a full practice week leading up the Sunday's game against Cincinnati.

1022
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: They have uncertainty a quarterback veteran AJ McCarron out with

1023
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: a right shoulder injury. Sean McDermot says they'll continue to

1024
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: get a check. No timetable on a decision on McCarron. Today,

1025
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: rookie Josh Allen took snaps with the first team after

1026
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: an impressive outing last Friday night in preseason game number two,

1027
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman took first team snaps yesterday, so they flipped

1028
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: it today. Peterman went with the twos today. McDermott not

1029
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: ready to say whether the Bills will sign a third

1030
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: quarterback to get them through this week and perhaps the

1031
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: rest of the preseason. He says that has been discussed.

1032
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: They'll say have third roundraft pick Horrison Phillips in the

1033
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: lineup in place of injured veteran Williams. Williams week to

1034
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: week with a knee injury suffered last Friday. Bills players

1035
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: off tomorrow back on Wednesday to get ready for the

1036
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: third preseason game, the one usually considered the dress rehearsal

1037
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Speaker 1: for the regular season opener Bills Bengals Sunday four. In

1038
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: his Kids Day at New Airfield. Roster move made last

1039
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: night by the Bills, they resigned defensive lineman Tenny Palopoy,

1040
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: who was signed this past spring. He was let go

1041
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: right before the Bills went to training camp. Palopoy a

1042
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: rotational player in three of the last four seasons for

1043
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers. Some veteran Bills defensive players spoke

1044
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: out yesterday about a block that Brown's wide receiver Jarvis

1045
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: Landry made against rookie corner Terren Johnson. No penalty on

1046
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: the play. Johnson was knocked to the ground and stayed

1047
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: there for a little while. He said later that Landry

1048
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: apologized to him after the hit he was slow to

1049
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: get up. Some of the Bills, including linebacker Lorenzo Alexander,

1050
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: said it was a dirty play. That's how he feels

1051
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: about it. Brown's corner e J. Gaines, the former Bills,

1052
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: suffered the right knee spring in practice yesterday, expect to

1053
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 1: be out about three weeks. Carted off the field defending

1054
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: the pass in practice yesterday, Cowboys offensive lineman Zach Martin

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Speaker 1: has avoid ligament damage. He was injured hyper extended knee

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00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: and a bone bruise. The team is optimistic that Martin

1057
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: will be ready for a week one of the regular season,

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00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: and the Washington Redskins hosting cregent running back Adrian Peterson

1059
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: today on a Business that is the update from One

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00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. John Murphy, Steve Tasker, We're into hour two

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00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 1: of One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health and joining

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00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: us today as he does during the regular season on

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00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: a weekly basis. We're happy to have executive producer and

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00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: analysts for NFL Matchup. Senior producer at NFL Films, Greg

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00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: Cosell on the line with U. Hi, Greg, John Murphy

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00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: and Steve here in Buffalo. Thanks for joining us, Murf, Steve,

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00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 1: how you guys doing? Hey? Before we jump in, Steve,

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00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: I got a question. I saw that flock by a Landry.

1069
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: Was that an illegal block? I don't think it was

1070
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: illegal because it was People in Buffalo are gonna put

1071
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of baggage on it because he did

1072
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: the same thing to Aaron Williams. But I think he

1073
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: turned sideways. He hit him kind of with his shoulder

1074
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: coming back, and it was devastating. There's no question about it. Um,

1075
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: But listen, if you're gonna send the guy, he went high,

1076
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: he hit him on the shoulder. I think it was legal.

1077
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't you know, you know, yeah, the first to admit,

1078
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: I'll be the first to admit I don't know all

1079
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: the ins and outs of every rule, but you know,

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00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: I watched that a number of times and I didn't

1081
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: think that it was necessarily illegal. I mean, I guess

1082
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: maybe there's an unwritten code in preseason. But I didn't

1083
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: think it was illegal. Well, no, I didn't either. It

1084
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: was pretty devastating, but I think the way I saw it,

1085
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: he came in, he turned sideways, he hit him kind

1086
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: of with the low part of his shoulder. The upper

1087
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: part of his arm against his body had some velocity,

1088
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: so he put a good hit on the guy, and

1089
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: he probably gave it a little extra. But you know,

1090
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: he did more than just shield off, you know, Johnson

1091
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: to the sidelines. He came in and laid a lick

1092
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: on him. He could have he could have done it differently,

1093
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: no question about it. But I don't know how he

1094
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: was coaching, you know, to do that. But you know,

1095
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: I didn't see it as illegal. But when you talk

1096
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: about Jarvis Landry and Buffalo and crackback blocks, everybody goes

1097
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: to the Aaron Williams hit of about a handful of

1098
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: years ago, and he ended his career. I remember that,

1099
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: So that's kind of hanging over the head of that hit. Yeah,

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00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: I got a question for you that deals with your

1101
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: show NFL matchup, which you start again in a couple

1102
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 1: of weeks. You've got our buddy Matt Bowen, former Bill safety,

1103
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: who's does a great job of breaking down film. He's

1104
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: going to be part of your show this year. Huh Yeah,

1105
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about it, Murph. It's gonna be South Palantonio,

1106
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: myself and Matt Bowen this year. And Matt is really excited.

1107
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: He's been sending me plays on a regular basis, you know,

1108
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: because he loves watching tape, as you probably know, and

1109
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: our show is a homework show. You have to watch

1110
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: the tape, you've got a study, and he's I'm pretty

1111
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: excited about it. We get started the weekend of the

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00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: first weekend of the regular season, so it's getting pretty close,

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00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: as you know. Yeah, Matt'll be a great addition to

1114
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: what is already a great show. All Right, let's talk

1115
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: about your takedown of tape and talk about Josh Allen.

1116
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: You saw me he had extensive work Friday night against Cleveland.

1117
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: What did you think in general? Josh Allen? Great, very good.

1118
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why, Murph, because one of the

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00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: things that we talked about a lot when he was

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00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: in the draft and then after was the kind of

1121
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: player he was, and that he was a big armed

1122
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,479
Speaker 1: kid who could throw the ball down the field. Wasn't

1123
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: really that efficient in terms of pace, touch, timing, and

1124
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: I thought he showed really good progress in that area.

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00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: He showed good footwork, balance, disciplined in his quick game

1126
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: drops from under center, he looked comfortable, He threw with touch,

1127
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: he wasn't overstriding. I thought that he really looked like

1128
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 1: he's being coached and he's taking to the coaching. And

1129
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: I thought he showed obviously everybody's going to talk about

1130
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: the street or two yard touchdown, that's just the athleticism,

1131
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: the movement, the poise, composure, his ability to make secondary

1132
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: action plays, which we know he has. But he had

1133
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: a play which to me was really interesting. It's a

1134
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: nine yard run in the two minute trail. I don't

1135
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: know if you remember this. It was not one of

1136
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: those players that you necessarily remember, but he had pressure

1137
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: from Karl nasse and nassep swiped at the ball and

1138
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: Allan showed great feel and awareness of that pressure without

1139
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: taking his eyes off of down feel And I think

1140
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: that's a real good trait when you can feel pressure

1141
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: without having to see it. And I thought that play

1142
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: said a lot about his development. Yeah, I agree with you.

1143
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot of good things that came out of

1144
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: that game for Josh Allen, and you know, it almost

1145
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,959
Speaker 1: changed the narrative of the preseason for the Buffalo Bills,

1146
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: particularly with AJ McCarron going down with an injury, because

1147
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: now instead of a three race, three person race for

1148
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback spot, now it's just two and it becomes

1149
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: more of a coin flip about how good Josh Allen

1150
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 1: can get in a short amount of time to overtake

1151
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman. But then again, Peterman. Hard to imagine anybody

1152
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: in the preseason around the league playing better than Peterman

1153
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: has this preseason. Yeah, he's played well. And the other issue, Steve,

1154
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: which you know, every organization decides they've got a tough

1155
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: schedule out of the gate, as you guys know, and

1156
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of tough games, a couple of

1157
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: tough road games. Not that Peterman is a grizzled veteran

1158
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: by any means, but they may feel that Allen, you know,

1159
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: for that kind of schedule early in the season, maybe

1160
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 1: he's not quite ready for that. But but Peterman, I think,

1161
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: you know, stylistically, is a kind of a controlled player,

1162
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: and maybe they feel that he's better off to start

1163
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: against some of those tougher opponents. Greg, I'm glad to

1164
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: hear you mentioned that nine yard run on the field

1165
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: goal drive end of the first half, and I had

1166
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: this conversation briefly with Josh Allen in the locker room

1167
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: Friday night in Cleveland. I thought that drive started by

1168
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: that nine yard run was even more impressive. How poised

1169
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: he was, how comfortable he looked, and the place he

1170
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: made the run, and a couple of throws in there

1171
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: that really impressed me. The field goal drive that ended

1172
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: the first half for Josh Allen, yeah, I thought there

1173
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: was a patient smurf to his game. I think the

1174
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: coaching staff did a great job too and helping him

1175
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: with the kinds of routes because that's what you're trying

1176
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: to get this kid to do, to sort of have

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00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: a sense of patience, to be able to make the

1178
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: throws that we tend to think of a more routine.

1179
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 1: I mean, this kid has tremendous talent and he can

1180
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: make spectacular plays, but ultimately, in the NFL, as Steve knows,

1181
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: you can't live off spectacular plays. You have to be

1182
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 1: able to make the routine plays. You've got to sustain offense.

1183
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: You know, when they give you an eight yard throw.

1184
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: You got to make the eight yard throw. It's as

1185
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: simple as that. And I thought that he did a

1186
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: really good job in this game showing kind of the poison,

1187
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: composure and the touch to make those kinds of throws. Yeah,

1188
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: the touch is important to I confess. Three weeks ago,

1189
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: first couple of days at camp, even back in the

1190
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: OTA's I would see him short yard and stuff, and

1191
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: I think he just lacks touch. Three weeks later, it

1192
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: seems to be there, at least a little bit better

1193
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: than it was when camp started. I would have to

1194
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: assume what you guys are there. I'm not, but I

1195
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 1: would have to assume that that's coaching, and that's being

1196
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: receptive to coaching. One of the other young players that

1197
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people are thinking maybe a step backwards

1198
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: or maybe showed his youth on Friday night against Cleveland

1199
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: was Tremaine Edmonds. You watched him and what were your take?

1200
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: What was your take about his play on Friday night? Yeah?

1201
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: I thought you know Edmonds is. Look, he's one of

1202
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: those guys that whenever I would talk to scouts and

1203
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: I watched him too, you know, everybody immediately says, oh,

1204
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: he's a no brainer, just look at the size of

1205
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: the movement. You know, he's got it all. But I

1206
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: think at this point in time, and I think it

1207
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: takes time, you know, I think at this point he's

1208
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 1: a little slow to diagnose. I don't think he sees

1209
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: things quite the way he needs to. He has to

1210
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: play better with his eyes in the run game. He

1211
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: has to find that needed balance between play recognition and

1212
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: proper gap reaction. And you know, obviously you see the

1213
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: athleticism when he can just run from the inside from

1214
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: the stack position out to the perimeter, when he can

1215
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: run inside out. But I think as far as the

1216
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: nuances of playing the middle linebacker position the way it's

1217
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: needed to be played in that defense, I think he's

1218
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: got a work to do. It's interesting because Sean McDermot

1219
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: addressed that this morning, asked about Tremi and Edmonds and

1220
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: basically said exactly what you said, Greg. You said, you know,

1221
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: we're trying to get him to be the signal caller,

1222
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: the quarterback on defense, and we also have to make

1223
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: sure he plays that he grows into it. The more

1224
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: comfortable he gets, the more where he can put on

1225
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: his plate. But it sounds like they're kind of measuring

1226
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: what they're asking Tremiya and Edmonds to do and what

1227
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: he's capable of doing. That quick transition between diagnosing what

1228
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: he sees and actually making the play. Yeah, and he's

1229
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: only twice think he's only twenty years old. I believe so.

1230
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know this is not a knock. I mean,

1231
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: the kid does not have a ton of experience. He's

1232
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: obviously a superior athlete. You can't ask for a better size,

1233
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: better movement skills. But you know, as Steve Well knows,

1234
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: to play a position like linebacker like that where there's

1235
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: a lot to digest in front of you in addition

1236
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: to playing gap responsibilities. Because the thing about gaps, gaps

1237
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: are fluid. Before the ball snapped, you might have you

1238
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: do have a gap, but after the ball snap, gaps

1239
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: become fluid, and you've got to be able to react

1240
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: at the proper speed with the correct play recognition. Talk

1241
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: a little bit, let's raise our heads up out of

1242
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: the from the grindstone here in Buffalo and live around

1243
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: the league. I mean, I wanted you to ask you,

1244
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: and I hope you're okay with this. I want to

1245
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: ask you about Chad Kelly out in Denver. He's moved

1246
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: up to the second string here in Buffalo. We had

1247
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: kind of have that connection to him, and what do

1248
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: you know about the way he has played and the

1249
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: reasons he was moved up to number two? Well, I

1250
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: think that he's played well. I think he's been decisive.

1251
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: I think that he looks very poised and composed, and

1252
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, he's not going to win

1253
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: the starting job. Obviously, they brought him case Keenum, who

1254
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: had a great year last year in Minnesota. But Kelly

1255
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: has clearly outplayed Paxton Lane and you know, you can

1256
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: just sort of see the way he plays, you know,

1257
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: one of the things with quarterbacks that you always like

1258
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: to see, you know, unless they're throwing to the wrong guy,

1259
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: and he's not. But he knows where to go with

1260
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: the ball and he's been accurate throwing it. And yes,

1261
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: we can all we have is what the film shows

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Speaker 1: up to this point. We're not you know, we're not

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Speaker 1: painting his whole career right now, but he's been decisive

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Speaker 1: with where he's going and he's going to the right receiver.

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Speaker 1: We're with Greg ko Sally as the executive producer analyst

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Speaker 1: for NFL Matchup airs on ESPN Senior producer in NFL Films.

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Speaker 1: I got a couple of more Buffalo bills. I asked

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Speaker 1: you about Greg and I know you've looked at the

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Speaker 1: video the bill's fourth round pick, Terren Johnson. You got

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Speaker 1: an awful lot of snaps the other day. Got a

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Speaker 1: big hit that you talked about earlier from Jarvis Landry.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what you see from him. He's in a

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Speaker 1: competition for nic O'Conner here. Does he seem to have

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Speaker 1: what it might take to win that position? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: really like this kid coming out of college too, So

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Speaker 1: you know, I think he was very aggressive as a

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Speaker 1: run defender. He was used as a blitzer at times.

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Speaker 1: I thought he actually I thought made a really good

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Speaker 1: play which didn't show up as his play in his

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Speaker 1: own coverage concept. I believe it was in Cover three

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Speaker 1: where he showed a good feel for the down and

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Speaker 1: distance and his understanding of where he should be as

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Speaker 1: the underneath defender. You know, little things like that I

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Speaker 1: always look for on tape because those are subtleties that

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Speaker 1: are very very important. He certainly has the foot quickness

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Speaker 1: and the twitch to match up man to man, you know,

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Speaker 1: barring anything unforeseen would I would be surprised if he

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Speaker 1: didn't win the slot corner job. Well, he's right in

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Speaker 1: the middle of that mix and also one of the

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Speaker 1: other young players. I don't know if this is the

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Speaker 1: guy you were going to ask about Murph, but Marcus

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Speaker 1: Murphy once again showed showed up big, not only in

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Speaker 1: the running game but also in the return game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he's really good Stephen the screen game. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think that's another area where he's really effective. You

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Speaker 1: get him with three wide on the field and eleven personnel.

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Speaker 1: He's got short area quickness, he's got open field burst.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he's probably not a true eye back,

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Speaker 1: although he's had some runs in the preseason where he

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Speaker 1: was an eye back with the quarterback under center. He

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Speaker 1: predominantly has run out of the shotgun up to this point.

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Speaker 1: He's got downhill quickness. He runs with a little velocity

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Speaker 1: for a smaller guy. And what I like about him

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Speaker 1: is he runs downhill. He doesn't look to bounce, and

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Speaker 1: very often you see smaller guys look to bounce, but

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Speaker 1: he stays downhill and he uses that short area quickness

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Speaker 1: and burst effectively. Hey, Greg, I want to get you

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Speaker 1: back to quarterbacks. We talked about Josh Allen and course

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Speaker 1: Allen's part of that quarterback class of twenty eighteen. A

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Speaker 1: lot of playing time for some of these rookies. And

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Speaker 1: we saw Baker Mayfield the other day. I kept talking

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Speaker 1: to my game day broadcast partner Mark Kelso on Friday night,

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Speaker 1: how much I like Baker Mayfield, how much I liked

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Speaker 1: he He seems to see the field as well as

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Speaker 1: anybody in the NFL. Yeah, I think that's one of

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Speaker 1: his strengths. He's plus, he has very good pocket movement.

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Speaker 1: If you notice, because you guys did the game, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't just look to run out of the pocket. He

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Speaker 1: had a couple of throws I know one was incomplete,

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Speaker 1: another one was complete to the tight end Devin couljuiced

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Speaker 1: where he sort of navigates the pocket and doesn't just

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Speaker 1: look to get out of there. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: really important for shorter quarterbacks because they have to find

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Speaker 1: sort of the most quiet area in which to be

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Speaker 1: able to see and deliver. And I think he has

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Speaker 1: a natural feel for that. And you know, he's not

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Speaker 1: just a runaround guy, which was I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people were under that impression coming out of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about some of the other quarterbacks, Mitch,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City. A lot

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Speaker 1: to do. He said, through the sixty nine yard pass

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Speaker 1: last week, it was traveled further than any pass that

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Speaker 1: in the league last year. He was part of the

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Speaker 1: quarterback class from two thousand, from the two thousand and

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Speaker 1: seventeen draft, and now he gets the keys in Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: Talk about his preseason. They're going with him come no matter,

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Speaker 1: come what may, right right right. I thought he was

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Speaker 1: pretty solid. I mean, I actually thought the best part

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Speaker 1: of his game was that he was pretty consistent with

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Speaker 1: his ball placement. He was he was pretty accurate. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that sixty nine yard touchdown everybody's going to talk about.

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Speaker 1: There were pros and cons to that play. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to sit here and break it down

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Speaker 1: because it's a visual thing. But you know, it was

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Speaker 1: just one of those throws and it was kind of

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Speaker 1: a flukey play. The throw and catch were kind of

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Speaker 1: pure chance, but the ball did travel close to seventy

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Speaker 1: yards in the air. He certainly has an aggressive risk

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Speaker 1: taking quality to his game, and there's definitely a fine

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Speaker 1: line between making great second reaction improvisational plays and making mistakes.

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Speaker 1: And he almost threw an interception in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: It should have been an interception. So he's got a

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Speaker 1: ton of talent. He'll make some wild plays, but the

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Speaker 1: consistency will have to wait and see. But I thought that,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I thought his ball placement was really

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Speaker 1: a positive. Greg We're only two weeks into preseason, but

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Speaker 1: it struck me the other day how all of these

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Speaker 1: first round quarterbacks seemed to be doing okay? Right? Do

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Speaker 1: you have that sense too? They seem to be kind

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Speaker 1: of answering the questions that folks had about him, including

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's Josh Allen. Oh, so far, And I guess we'll

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Speaker 1: have to wait and see when teams clearly game plan

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Speaker 1: and when it gets when you go throughout a game,

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Speaker 1: and as Steve knows, you go through a game and

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Speaker 1: something bad happens, how to react to that When it

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Speaker 1: gets to be third and nine and the defense has

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Speaker 1: the tactical advantage with all their different looks and pressure schemes,

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Speaker 1: how will they react to that over the course of

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Speaker 1: a game. So, yes, they've certainly, I wouldn't say anybody's

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Speaker 1: played poorly, But you know, I think there's a ways

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Speaker 1: to go before we say that, hey, all these guys

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Speaker 1: are going to be good players. One of the things

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Speaker 1: we've noticed as well, Greg that in these preseason games,

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Speaker 1: and we noticed it in Buffalo. We noticed it against

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Speaker 1: Cleveland and Carolina as well, in the two games that

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Speaker 1: Buffalo has played against those teams. It seems like it

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Speaker 1: used to be nobody showed any XS and o's showed

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Speaker 1: any tactical stuff. Now it seems coaches are kind of

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Speaker 1: putting that stuff out there and putting some more complicated

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Speaker 1: things in their preseason game plans. Do you notice that

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Speaker 1: as well or is that just exclusive to Buffalo? No,

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Speaker 1: you're right, And I think the reason for that, Steve,

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Speaker 1: is there's more blitz in the league. There's more detailed

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Speaker 1: defensive things going on from a tactical standpoint. So I

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01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: think teams are just practicing what they do. You know,

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Speaker 1: years and years ago, you know, fewer teams I think

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Speaker 1: litz at the percentage that we see now in the league.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think teams aren't necessarily saying, hey, let's

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Speaker 1: go into this game and let's just blitz. I think

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Speaker 1: teams are practicing what they do. So it looks like

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Speaker 1: there's more blitz because there is, because more teams blitz.

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Speaker 1: One more rookiere. I want to ask you about I

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Speaker 1: keep hearing I haven't seen him yet, but hearing good

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Speaker 1: reports about Josh Rosen out in Arizona. What have you

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Speaker 1: seen from him? Oh? Yeah, yeah, Well I really liked

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Speaker 1: him coming out. I mean, he would have been my

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Speaker 1: number one if I had to make a list of

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. He would have been my number one guy

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Speaker 1: coming out. And I think that, you know, you just

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Speaker 1: watch him play. He just looks like an NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 1: This week against the Saints, I thought he played really well.

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Speaker 1: He showed some subtle pocket movement. He sort of maintains

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Speaker 1: his balance and footwork in the ball position. He's very

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Speaker 1: clean with his footwork. He has a very good sense

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Speaker 1: of ball placement, of where to put the ball in

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Speaker 1: relation to the defender. He's a very good scene thrower.

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Speaker 1: I like Josh Rosen. I think he's acquitted himself. Well,

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Speaker 1: how like is that he'll see time? I mean that

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Speaker 1: he'll start or I mean as Bradford got a stranglehold

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Speaker 1: on the spot. H My feeling would be that Bradford's

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Speaker 1: the guy unless they lose, or unless Bradford gets hurt,

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Speaker 1: which you know, and know a lot of people just

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Speaker 1: assume that's going to happen, but you know, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that Dale rush rosen in, you know,

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Speaker 1: unless the record indicates that he needs to play, or

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Speaker 1: unless Bradford gets hurt. And I know he's not a rookie.

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to get your thoughts on Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: out in San Francisco putting up good numbers. It looks

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Speaker 1: pretty good so far, right, Yeah, that offense is fun

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Speaker 1: to watch. I mean, I think Kyle Shanahan is as

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Speaker 1: good as there is in the league. As far as

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Speaker 1: design of offense, I think when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: run past fusion, as I call it, there's no one better.

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Speaker 1: And I think Garoppolo's He's got that quick release, he

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01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: throws a good ball, he's accurate, he can move, he

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Speaker 1: can make late in the down throws where he can

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Speaker 1: move in the pocket. So you know, I think that's

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Speaker 1: a really good mix and they could have a very

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Speaker 1: interesting offense this year. What do you mean by run

1430
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: pass fusion, Greg, where the run game and the pass

1431
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: game initially looked the same in terms of the run action.

1432
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Speaker 1: So when they go with run action, most people think

1433
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Speaker 1: of as play action, but when it really looks like

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Speaker 1: run where the old line really sort of fires off

1435
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Speaker 1: the ball as opposed to their helmets up in pass pro,

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Speaker 1: it looks like run to the defense initially anyway, and

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Speaker 1: I think that ability that run pass mix, it very

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Speaker 1: much looks the same, and it makes it very difficult

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Speaker 1: for second level defenders. Well this week, and I know

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Speaker 1: this changes from hour to hour, but you look at

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Speaker 1: those top four quarterbacks that were drafted in the first

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Speaker 1: round this year. At this point, do you think Sam

1443
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: Darnold looks like the most likely to start the opening

1444
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: day or to play earliest of that group. Well, I

1445
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: think that's going to be an organizational thing, Steve. I

1446
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: think they're trying to figure out whether they want to

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Speaker 1: start a rookie and live with the growing pains because

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Speaker 1: there will be growing pains, or whether maybe there's a

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Speaker 1: start the veteran and I guess theoretically maybe it's Teddy Bridgewater.

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Speaker 1: Who knows, But I think they're going to try to

1451
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: figure that out because do they want to maybe go

1452
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: through a five and eleven season or try or they

1453
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: might look at their talent and say, hey, we could

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01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: be eight and eight or nine and seven with a

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01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback lining up every week. So I think that'll

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01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: be an organizational decision. It sounds like a kind of

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01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: decision that might happen here in Buffalo a little bit, Greig,

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Speaker 1: isn't it possibly? I mean they don't have the true veteran.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Peterman is not a veteran in

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Speaker 1: a strict sense. He started one game, obviously, he's not

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Speaker 1: a veteran. Obviously. In New York, they've got either McCown

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Speaker 1: who's a true true veteran, and Bridgewater, who started meaningful

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Speaker 1: games in the league. So they've actually got a choice

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Speaker 1: they can make. Great thanks for this. We'll talk again

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Speaker 1: next week. We appreciate it. Looking forward to it, guys. Thanks, thanks,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Great Cosald executive producer analysts NFL Matchup, senior

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Speaker 1: producer at NFL Films. He's right about that. They don't

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Speaker 1: have as many options, but they do have options here,

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Speaker 1: and this is going to be interesting decision and for

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermot on Josh Allen, As we said at the

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Speaker 1: top of the show, is he ready to show the

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Speaker 1: dice a little bit and see what this guy, the

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Speaker 1: rookie can provide. Maybe you know, and maybe he does

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Speaker 1: give them the best chance to win. When it's a

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Speaker 1: comparison to Peterman, well, I think it's it's a much

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Speaker 1: more I guess, clear cut decision now that it would

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Speaker 1: have been if mccaren had still been healthy. That's right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing too. It almost gets to the

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Speaker 1: point where Peterman would have a shorter leash than you

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Speaker 1: would with McCarron on the roster and all those games,

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Speaker 1: because though you know those two, what do you do?

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Speaker 1: It's not automatic that I guess it's not automake at

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Speaker 1: all three of the quarterbacks would even actually be on

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Speaker 1: the team. But if you go with Peterman, McCarron or

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Speaker 1: mccaren Peterman and then Josh Allen, you when you just

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Speaker 1: take it for granted, it wouldn't be taken for granted

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Speaker 1: that you're gonna switch whoever you switch out. Josh Allen's

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Speaker 1: actually automatically gonna be the next guy in. It wouldn't

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Speaker 1: actually have to be that way if those two guys

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Speaker 1: are both on the roster. Yeah, I don't like to

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Speaker 1: think about short leashes. I know, you know what, I

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Speaker 1: don't know because I don't think that it. I don't

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Speaker 1: know the coaches going thinking like that. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't know if coach think of a

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Speaker 1: coach thinks, well, if if he screws up, this is

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Speaker 1: what we do, or I'm waiting for him to screw

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Speaker 1: up and then they make this move. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's the way they approached it. No, I don't either.

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Speaker 1: I think to me, it's you're got to be willing

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Speaker 1: to do it if it's ready, but not if if

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Speaker 1: you think it's not the time to I think there's

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Speaker 1: no if a head coach has the mentality he says, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm pulling that guy as soon as he makes makes

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Speaker 1: a mistake. That's I don't think many head coaches get

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Speaker 1: to that point. I don't think the Bills are in

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Speaker 1: that situation. Now. You know, you could conjure up a

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Speaker 1: scenario or maybe that would happen. But I think they

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Speaker 1: make quarterback changes based on that moment. Who's going to

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Speaker 1: give him the best chance to win? And I think

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Speaker 1: that's what they're doing with choosing the starting quarterback now

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Speaker 1: and in the future. It'll change and it sometimes it

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Speaker 1: does change week to week, and that's when you know,

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Speaker 1: that's when you get into that quarter. You know you've

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Speaker 1: got that controversy thing going. That's not where you want

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Speaker 1: to be, but you evolve into that sometimes and that's, Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's when you're your team's struggling and you know you're

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Speaker 1: kind of trying to stay in the in the race

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Speaker 1: at the same time balance that with getting better for

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Speaker 1: the future. Yeah, we gotta talk about including quarterbacks who

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Speaker 1: want to hear from you, and we'll get back to

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Speaker 1: our original discussion when we return. It's our first show

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Speaker 1: since the Friday night preseason game in Cleveland. We want

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Speaker 1: to know your top takeaways from Wills game against the Browns.

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Speaker 1: The lines are open eight oho three zero five fifty

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Speaker 1: or two three one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty. You can send in a tweet at one

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Speaker 1: Bill's Line. We'll read some of those on the air

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Speaker 1: as well. Come on back, Stephen, I have a lot

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Speaker 1: more ground to cover. One Bills Live from One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio three. Wide out starving goal

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Speaker 1: from the two, Josh Allen looking gonna throw it dodging

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Speaker 1: traffic quires into the end zone cat touchdown right straighter

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Speaker 1: touchdown buffalo what Josh Allen TODs about three bodies flying

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Speaker 1: around him and wait until they found an open man

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Speaker 1: on the back line of the end zone. And as

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Speaker 1: the Hunt real Estate red zone caught on the game,

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Speaker 1: of your real estate needs. Pretty good play down there,

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Speaker 1: and he did dodge bodies. That was very impressive by

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Speaker 1: that that play, as Great Gosell as you well know,

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Speaker 1: Steve as Great Osell pointed out, everybody talks about that play,

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Speaker 1: But I like the field goal drive at the end

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Speaker 1: of the half, as you well know. That's uh, you

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Speaker 1: know that it requires that poise that a rookie quarterback

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Speaker 1: often doesn't have. As you well know, I listen one

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Speaker 1: of the I broke one of the cardinal rules of

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Speaker 1: broadcasting when he threw that touchdown pass and dodged the

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Speaker 1: pressure that came right up at him. Because Andrew Cattle

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Speaker 1: on his calling on a play by play on TV

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Speaker 1: and I was in the back, I said, wow, oh

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Speaker 1: don't I wasn't see it. You don't talk over the

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Speaker 1: play by play guys, because you got a call because basically,

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Speaker 1: when something like that happens, you know the call is

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Speaker 1: going to be used on highlights and stuff. You don't

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Speaker 1: want to step on the call. But when he did that,

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Speaker 1: I was like, wow, it was that was a good

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Speaker 1: play because the pressure sure came right away and he

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Speaker 1: got around it, stepped up, kept his eyes down the

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Speaker 1: field and and zinged it with some velocity on target. Um.

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Speaker 1: It was a big time play and it happened in

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Speaker 1: the You know, that whole play took less than a

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Speaker 1: second and a half, less than two seconds, and it

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Speaker 1: was impressive. It was Nate Orchard trying to reach Anon

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Speaker 1: back there in the backfield. He got it there. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the game Friday. What were your biggest takeaways?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be about quarterbacks. But give us a

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Speaker 1: call eight three five fifty and told free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty Frank calling from Rochester. Hi, Frank,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Hey, how's it going good?

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Speaker 1: Just uh? I think I think Josh Allens, I think

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Speaker 1: he's special man. He's got one of those arms. He's

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Speaker 1: got that Aaron Rodgers type. I'm not saying the kid's

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Speaker 1: gonna be like Aaron Rodgers. I'm just saying he's got

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Speaker 1: a ridiculously strong arm because he flicks that thing and

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Speaker 1: it goes sixty yards on a rope. And I think

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Speaker 1: he should start, man, to be honest with you, because

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Speaker 1: we already know what those other guys could do. Josh McCarron,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason why the trips got faded here.

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Speaker 1: You know, could he be good and and do certain things? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he got more experiences. He's got a little more experience.

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Speaker 1: But this kid's good and and and we really don't

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Speaker 1: know what. We got a receiver, you know, we got

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Speaker 1: that new kid came from um where Cleveland. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Coleman and then uh you know, uh Benjamin and you know,

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Speaker 1: if we can run the ball. You know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think Shady he you know, he's getting older. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna get quite a thousand yards this year,

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Speaker 1: but he's still gonna have glimpses of, you know, some

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Speaker 1: pretty decent games. But this kid, this kid's good. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think he's good. I think he Look, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: for him to start to the Sunday against the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: and uh, if all goes well, I think he should

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Speaker 1: start Opening Day like you, but I'm I'm willing to

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Speaker 1: suspend the decision on that. Um he talked about, UM, Josh,

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was. Yeah, it was Josh Allen's first throw

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Speaker 1: kind of zip by Kelvin Benjamin incomplete, Benjamin up and

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Speaker 1: yeah should Yeah, the velocity on that throw incompletion. I

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Speaker 1: was like, whoa, this is a different game now. That

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Speaker 1: was a ninety mile hour fastball and a couple of

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Speaker 1: those he didn't put it right on him. He had

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Speaker 1: to put that right on Benjamin. That's the one pass

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Speaker 1: that he did miss on the night, I think, But

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Speaker 1: I agree. It's gonna be interesting to see how well

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Speaker 1: he plays with the ones during practice this week. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna make an evaluation is to see what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: But it's hard to get him. It's gonna be hard

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Speaker 1: to get him acclimated to what it's going to be

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Speaker 1: like in a regular NFL season game. Peterman's been there,

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Speaker 1: not granted, as Greg casil Well wrongfully said, he said

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Speaker 1: he started one. Actually Peterman started two games. He's got

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Speaker 1: that much more experience, so we'll see. But now you

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Speaker 1: flip it all around everything that second preseason game threw

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Speaker 1: a wrench into a lot of plans, the quarterback plan

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Speaker 1: with McCarron getting hurt in it and Josh Allen playing

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Speaker 1: so well. Now, you don't know where did they deviate

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Speaker 1: from the plans they've had. Tremaine Edmonds, now he's getting

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Speaker 1: People are chiming in on Twitter like they don't think

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Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds is gonna start. I mean, listen, you're crazy.

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Speaker 1: Some guy says, hey, he's not big enough. They say

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Speaker 1: he weighs two fifty. He looks more like he weighs

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Speaker 1: two twenty. Listen, Tremaine Edmonds weighs every bit at two fifty.

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Speaker 1: He's six five plus inches tall. He looks long and lean.

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Speaker 1: He is tall and huge and lean. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: guy is big. So he's gonna play inside and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be this middle linebacker for the Buffalo Bills. You

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Speaker 1: can say what you want about the game he had

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Speaker 1: the other night. He's a really good player, just like

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen is. I don't know, uh, just I think

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Speaker 1: we we've talked about this a bunch of murph. He

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Speaker 1: to pump the brakes and all the reactions out for

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Speaker 1: this game, right, good and bad. Let's level it out

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Speaker 1: a little bit, no question, Josh Allen. Now with a

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Speaker 1: j mccaren hurt, he has a better chance to start.

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Speaker 1: It's just a number. That's just a simple fact of

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Speaker 1: the matter of the numbers. And he's played well. But

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Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman has played extremely well. He's he's got a

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Speaker 1: great quarterback rating. He's rarely throws an incompletion, let alone

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Speaker 1: an interception, which he has yet to do. But Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen is impressed. Let's just let's just keep on keeping

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Speaker 1: on here for a minute and let these guys play.

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Speaker 1: What fun is that, Steve? As you well know, on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: people like to overreact. From the tweet sheet, Tiffany Daniels,

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Speaker 1: she writes, the first string OH line took a step back.

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Speaker 1: They looked out of sync, they struggled in past protection,

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Speaker 1: and there seemed to be no running lanes available. The positive,

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Speaker 1: Josh Hallen looks like a big time talent. His athleticism

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Speaker 1: and arm strength they're unreal. Should be the week one started.

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Speaker 1: A lot of good points there, Tiffany, thank you for

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Speaker 1: chiming in, and you're right. And I didn't hear I

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Speaker 1: heard Mark say to several times Mark Kelso in the

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Speaker 1: game broadcast on Friday. You heard him say that, I

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Speaker 1: believe you said on the radio today about how the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo offense was not quite as multiple, not quite as

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01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: up tempo this past week, especially early on as it

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Speaker 1: was in the first preseason opener against Carolina. I think

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Speaker 1: that made a bit of a difference, right, They weren't

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Speaker 1: They weren't the same. They didn't try to do much

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Speaker 1: of the same last Friday night compared to the week. Begod,

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Speaker 1: it was a different It was different, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: They didn't look as good. Cleveland defensively looked very sharp,

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Speaker 1: they look talented, and they're gonna be a good defense.

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Speaker 1: We'll see. But by the same token, you're right, I

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Speaker 1: think the offensive line of the Bills. Now. We talked

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Speaker 1: to John Millner and he said, listen, we came over

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Speaker 1: to the sidelines and we did The ones did better

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Speaker 1: in the subsequent series, but listen, they only got that

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Speaker 1: four to three and outs with AJ McCarron and they

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Speaker 1: didn't look good. They didn't look good, and that continued

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Speaker 1: to be the case as the game progressed. They didn't

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Speaker 1: get very many plays in a row because they couldn't

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Speaker 1: get a first down. It's not a good place to

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Speaker 1: be in your second preseason game. Tweet cheat from JR. Morrow.

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Speaker 1: A couple of interesting points here. One run defense reminded

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Speaker 1: Rex's times. Two Edmond still has a lot to learn.

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01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: Three Josh Allen is way better than anyone expected. Four

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01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 1: O'Leary is underrated. He has always opened. Five Murphy will

1677
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 1: be number two running back. I mean, let's go through these.

1678
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if the run defense looked like Rex

1679
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: Ryan's defense. I mean the Bills run defense quite frankly

1680
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: wasn't real strong last year either. Two Edmund still has

1681
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 1: a lot to learn. Of course he does. Of course

1682
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 1: he does. He's a rookie. Three Allan is way better

1683
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: than what anyone expected. You're right at this point. Yes,

1684
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 1: For O'Leary is underrated. He is always open. I don't

1685
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: know about that. One thing about Nico catches for seventy yards.

1686
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: He led the team in receptions, in yard. There's no

1687
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: question played deep into the game against you know, twos

1688
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 1: and threes, made some catches, made some big plays. Two

1689
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: things about this, what does it say? I was reading

1690
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 1: about this yesterday, thinking about this, The fact that they

1691
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: waited so long to put Nicoleary in the game. I

1692
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: mean he came in after you know, obviously Charles Clay,

1693
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 1: Logan Thomas, Jason Crum and whom I think in eighty

1694
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 1: eight Kari Leebridge. I think he played a little bit

1695
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: before to Bridge. But does that indicative of what they

1696
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: think in Nicoleary or do they know what they have

1697
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: in Nicoleary? They want to look at these other guys.

1698
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: I tend to think it's the other way around. Yes,

1699
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 1: he made some big plays, but as I said last week,

1700
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: I think I said a Friday in Cleveland were doing

1701
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 1: the show, Look, he is not dead man walking here,

1702
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: Nico Leary. Do you know what he can do? He

1703
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: is capable, he has something to add. The other guys

1704
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: are interesting prospects. Jason Krum, Yeah, Kyle Lee is a

1705
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: good blocker primarily. But Logan Thomas I think is much

1706
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 1: improved from me he's been. But I wouldn't bury Nico

1707
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: Leary just yet. I'm not there. Well, here's the thing

1708
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: I think, if you want to equated with another battle

1709
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 1: that's going on, equate Nico Leary with Nathan Peterman or

1710
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 1: a J. McCarron and Josh Allen is one of the

1711
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: other tight ends like Croome and Logan Thomas. They've got

1712
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:36,560
Speaker 1: much higher physical abilities, much higher ends. Nico Leary is

1713
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: not going to lose a game for you, but he

1714
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: may not do what's necessary to win it. He almost

1715
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: got run after being fifteen yards wide open. He almost

1716
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: didn't get to the end zone. He's not as fast

1717
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: as those other guys. He's not a great, great an athlete.

1718
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 1: He might be better down inside on the blocking and

1719
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: the nitty gritties of the run game. But I don't

1720
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: know if that's true either. I haven't seen enough of

1721
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 1: that to know, But I do know this, the coaching

1722
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 1: staff knows exactly what Nicole or he can give him,

1723
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: and they don't take it for granted. These other guys

1724
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 1: aren't just gonna cut waltz in and just take it.

1725
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to earn that spot because Nicole Leary

1726
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 1: did some good things and continues to do good things

1727
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: for the club. But I don't think there's any question.

1728
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: It's a horse race now, and they want to find

1729
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: out if there's somebody who gives them more than Nicole

1730
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: Leary has given them. Got a call on tight ends

1731
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: from Jim and Tonawanda to go ahead Jimmy are on

1732
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: the air with us. Jim, Jim, Jim hung up? Sorry, Jim,

1733
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 1: Gary on a cell. Hello, Gary, welcome, You're on the

1734
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 1: show with us. Hey guys here y'all. Jim okay, I

1735
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 1: got a question for see either because he played when

1736
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: LA played. I know it's a little because people like

1737
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 1: the pair players. Obviously doesn't an arm in mine of La.

1738
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: It did to me my brothers. Well, i'll tell you what.

1739
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,719
Speaker 1: Elway had a big arm too, And yeah, John Elway

1740
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: delivered the ball but differently, but the velocity is there.

1741
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: I mean, no question about it. Elway had Maybe John

1742
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: Elway had the greatest RM I've ever seen on a quarterback. Um,

1743
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm Josh Allen, Uh can throw it? Yeah, I mean

1744
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: it's the same kind of thing. I don't know if

1745
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 1: i'd give, say, Josh Allen's arms as good as always.

1746
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I'm not one of those guys

1747
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: that say the old guys were always better, but I

1748
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: don't know. Elway was just had a startling, startlingly good arm.

1749
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: But that's what I see in Josh Allen as well.

1750
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, I get that that's a good comparison. Um,

1751
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 1: it took John Elway a long long time to win

1752
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: a super Bowl though. You know this is this what

1753
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 1: you're referring to when you talked about tapping the brakes. Yeah,

1754
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 1: we're comparing Josh Allen with a little bit of work

1755
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 1: in two preseason. Well, his physical ability, they you know,

1756
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 1: there's size and arm strength and what they kind of

1757
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 1: looked like. And John Elway was a great athlete. He

1758
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 1: could really run as well. So yeah, a little bit,

1759
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,759
Speaker 1: a little bit. Let's go to Sean and Buffalo. Welcome

1760
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 1: to the show. Sean, you're in the air. I get

1761
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 1: a question about the offensive lines performance, um, and how

1762
01:22:55,600 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 1: much blame can we give to who the starting center was? Um?

1763
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: I you know calling the offensive blocking schemes. Was it

1764
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett that's that great? Or did uh Bodeine take

1765
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 1: a step back? Well Bodine didn't block Miles Garrett. Um,

1766
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: And you don't leave Miles Garrett unblocked. So you know

1767
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins was blocking him and it was a he

1768
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,600
Speaker 1: was a handful, There's no question about it. Um. You

1769
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. Listen, I don't I haven't watched the

1770
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 1: film like that to go back and say, listen, you

1771
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 1: know the center was the problem, but listen, it starts

1772
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 1: with the centers, and we said, John Miller on the

1773
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 1: center makes the call, he calls out who the MAC is,

1774
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: Mike is, and after that they've got a sort through

1775
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: and communicate to who's got who. There was a couple

1776
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,719
Speaker 1: of times that night where they didn't have a guy,

1777
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 1: and some of it was just a mind blower on

1778
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: one one guy or the other, like that Marcus Murphy

1779
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 1: stepped up on the touchdown passing completely whiffed on the

1780
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 1: guy he was supposed to block and it turned into

1781
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 1: a touchdown anyway. But there were other times when the

1782
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: offensive line didn't have it sorted out right. So John

1783
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: Miller said that, you know, they've kind of got that

1784
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: ironed out. They kind of got it, felt like they

1785
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 1: got it ironed out earlier in the game. But nevertheless,

1786
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 1: you're right, Uh, somewhere along the line, I'm sure probably

1787
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 1: one or the other centers made a bad call or

1788
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: made a bad block, or they didn't communicate well because

1789
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 1: there were guys stepping to the wrong person, stepping to

1790
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: the wrong playing where you have two guys blocking one

1791
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: and nobody blocking the second guy. So there were some

1792
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 1: issues going on in the offensive line, no question about it.

1793
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: And who's to blame. I don't know it. Probably five

1794
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 1: different guys could take the blame on five different plays. Carl,

1795
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: here from Carl in Clarence. Carl, go ahead, you're on

1796
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 1: the air. Hey, guys, I just wanted to say that

1797
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: I think we absolutely must start Josh in this next game.

1798
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 1: And if he does good, I think we start him

1799
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 1: for Game one, and if he doesn't, then we start Peterman.

1800
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,839
Speaker 1: And I'm just not quite sure if that fantastic passes

1801
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 1: the ends at almost like block or is this guy

1802
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: on a regular basis. I will say this, there's a

1803
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks in the league that never once in

1804
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: their career did they throw a touchdown pass like that.

1805
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 1: It was amazing. Carl, let me stop you and ask

1806
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 1: you two questions. Why must they start Josh Allen? Why?

1807
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: Why is it a must? Well, if you have any

1808
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: attention starting for game one, I mean, how are we

1809
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 1: gonna know? How are you doing against the ones for

1810
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 1: a couple a couple of quarters? Okay? I like that? Yeah,

1811
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: And uh, I will say this, though he's got so

1812
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 1: much velocity on the ball, he's he's gonna have to

1813
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: really get right right. Chili's receivers if it's if it's

1814
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 1: behind them or high man, they're they're not going to

1815
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 1: catch that ball. Yeah, well they get paid too. But

1816
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: I get I get too that you didn't know whether

1817
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 1: that touchdown was luck or whatever. But here's the thing too,

1818
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: You got Street coming across there. It's luck is when

1819
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: a lot of guys are prepared and they play hard,

1820
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 1: and they and they help each other. And Josh Allen

1821
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 1: put a lot on that ball. He put it right

1822
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 1: in the Streeter. Streeter was running that route hard across

1823
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 1: the back, feeling like he was gonna get open. And

1824
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, that's what it takes. Luck is when two

1825
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: guys are working hard and doing the right thing and

1826
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 1: they take advantage of a situation. Josh Allen's ability to

1827
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 1: even get that pass off started when he had to

1828
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: step around the pressure that came to him. The rest

1829
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: of it was just everybody keeping going, not knowing whether

1830
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 1: it was actually going to happen Street or coming across

1831
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: the back of the end zone. You can say it

1832
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: was luck. That's where it was designed to go. He

1833
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: never let up. He wanted he was running to get open,

1834
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 1: and when he got a lot of guys working hard

1835
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: around you. As a quarterback, it's easier to get lucky,

1836
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 1: so you know, yeah, maybe getting around that pressure was

1837
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of luck. But Rod Street or catching

1838
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: that ball coming across, he was working hard, doing exactly

1839
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: what he was supposed to be doing. A lot of

1840
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 1: interesting thoughts and we'll hear more of them. Your takeaways

1841
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: from Friday's game in Cleveland, preseason game number two. You

1842
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 1: can tweet it in and we'll read some of them

1843
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: on the air. You can call us up at eight

1844
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 1: oh three h five fifty or toll free one eight

1845
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Steve and I

1846
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: back with more. One Bill's Life presented by Come out

1847
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: of Health from One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1848
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: He's going with second teams defensively, Here comes a blitz.

1849
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 1: Mayfield sets up the troll. He is dropped. He has

1850
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: knocked count back of the twenty yard line. Parents Fiday

1851
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 1: prompt him, there the Bills, can't your sent a blitz?

1852
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 1: And then today filled a vacancy there up Grunt was

1853
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,679
Speaker 1: able to drop Baker Mayfield for lots of a big

1854
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 1: play from the Buffalo defense. We're calling at the advanced

1855
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:37,519
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1858
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 1: With the Buffalo Bills, Terence Fday gets the sack. Raphael

1859
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 1: Bush on the pressure important to own and we're getting

1860
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: a lot of calls and they're right. I mean, the

1861
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo defense gave up some chunks of yardage early in

1862
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 1: the game. Seed, But McDermott made the point today and

1863
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: as I watched the game over yesterday, I thought the

1864
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 1: defense second and third teamers got better as that game

1865
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 1: went along, the Buffalo defense, right, Yeah, I think I

1866
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 1: agree they did, and much better than the Carolina game. Yeah. Yeah,

1867
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: it was almost reversed. You know, the first team looked

1868
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 1: really good against Carolina, and then they then the second

1869
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 1: third teamers didn't play so well, and it was reverse.

1870
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 1: The first team struggled in Cleveland, the second and third

1871
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 1: teamers actually played much bunch better, So it was kind

1872
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 1: of flip flop. Yeah. A call from Pat in Rochester

1873
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 1: on the Buffalo defense. One of his observations takeaways from

1874
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 1: Friday's game, Pat and Rochester, go ahead, you're on the

1875
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: air with us. How are you doing? Guys played to

1876
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 1: talk to you again? Sure, Um, what I was wondering

1877
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 1: was okay, and you just guys alluded to it. It

1878
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: was the first first team's play, especially the defensive line.

1879
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like they were penetrating at all. Okay.

1880
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 1: And if this is what we're gonna have, if this

1881
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 1: is our basic strength, it's gonna be our defense, something's

1882
01:28:56,400 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 1: going to happen there. And then losing Kyle after you know,

1883
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 1: maybe you know, on day to day, week to week anyway, Yeah,

1884
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean, losing Kyle is a problem week to week,

1885
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 1: even if it's you know, only a couple of weeks

1886
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 1: that takes into the regular season, which is now what

1887
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 1: less than three weeks away? Yeah? Um, And he's right

1888
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 1: that the first team defense didn't look good at the beginning. Uh.

1889
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 1: And without Kyle, they're not going to be better, you know.

1890
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 1: I mean, so it's it's it's an issue we'll see,

1891
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 1: though I'm not ready to jettison my prediction at all.

1892
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 1: I think their defense is going to be what what

1893
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 1: drives him. I think we got to remember where we

1894
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 1: were at this time last year. This is a we

1895
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 1: haven't seen Trent Murphy yet. When's he going to show up?

1896
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 1: They have not installed a game plan, which I think

1897
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 1: is crucial for this group to be successful. I there's

1898
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 1: a lot of things we haven't seen, and I think

1899
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 1: this is the perfect time when you got a group

1900
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:51,919
Speaker 1: that is in their second year of the defense, uh,

1901
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 1: to not show a lot defensively that they may show

1902
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: in the regular season. If there's been one one thing

1903
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 1: about it, I I think that's been the one thing

1904
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 1: that's been as we predicted in the preseason, you don't

1905
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 1: show much. Well, the Bill's defense didn't show much last

1906
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 1: two games. Let's go to Rick and Albany. Hello, Rick,

1907
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 1: you're on the air, and you have a thought about

1908
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Huh, yes, thank you very much for taking

1909
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 1: my call. Before I start my observation, I just want

1910
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:20,759
Speaker 1: to say, really, when it comes down to the quarterback situation,

1911
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm really comfortable with either one of them. But um,

1912
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 1: as I watched the last couple of games, particularly the

1913
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:30,799
Speaker 1: Cleveland game, and it seemed like the you know offense,

1914
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 1: you know mccaren was was getting brushed and you know,

1915
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 1: the offense weren't. We weren't in sync. But but as

1916
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 1: soon as Josh Allen came into the game, it just

1917
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 1: seems like that that whole offensive line just did one

1918
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 1: eighty and it just seemed like they were playing so

1919
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 1: much better. And it carried on to the third quarter.

1920
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: Then when Peterman came in, it just seemed like it

1921
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 1: wasn't as it wasn't as fast and crisp as it was. Yeah, um,

1922
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 1: Josh Allen was in. Well, Josh Allen was in a

1923
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 1: two minute drill too for the second drive he was

1924
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 1: in the game, or the last drive us in the game.

1925
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 1: So they do when you do that. Even before that,

1926
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 1: there was a pace that was missing. I thought from

1927
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 1: McCarron's tenure quarterback Friday night that Josh Allen kind of

1928
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 1: picked up the pace, whether they sent in place quicker

1929
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 1: or just did things quicker. Do you think you're laughing, Well,

1930
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 1: I think you're psychosomatic. No. No, I think they had

1931
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 1: a much better pace. Maybe maybe, And it's interesting to you.

1932
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:22,759
Speaker 1: I just I just said that about the Bills defense.

1933
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:24,639
Speaker 1: We've been talking about how these teams around the NFL

1934
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 1: have not been staying simple in their game plans, and

1935
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 1: you think about the Bills defense, they may be the

1936
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 1: only group across the entire league that I haven't seen anybody.

1937
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: I've seen Caroline, I've seen Cleveland, I've seen some other

1938
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: teams playing like I watched the Jet game the other night.

1939
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:42,719
Speaker 1: The Bills defense is the only group and only team

1940
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 1: with one side of the ball that they have not

1941
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 1: done much. I mean, XS and oose wise, schematically wise,

1942
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 1: they haven't shown a lot of blitz. They haven't shown

1943
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure. They haven't shown a lot of stuff.

1944
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 1: And you know, it gives me a little bit of

1945
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 1: hope that you know, there is something left in the

1946
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: tank when they when the regul season does show up,

1947
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:02,680
Speaker 1: they are going to play at a higher level and

1948
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 1: with some with some more tools in their toolbox. Here's

1949
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 1: Andrew in Lakeview, New York. Collo Andrew, Welcome to the show. Hi,

1950
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 1: how are you guys? Thanks for taking the call. Sure

1951
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 1: when it comes to the quarterback situation, I mean, I

1952
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 1: can tell you why I think Josh Allen should start,

1953
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 1: but why he won't. I think in the event that

1954
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 1: he is not, you know, if Peterman or McCarron, or

1955
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 1: if they have to bring in a veteran because of

1956
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:33,639
Speaker 1: mccarroen's injury. Whoever it is. If they if they are

1957
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 1: heading shoulders better or above Allen, then yeah, Alan should sit.

1958
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 1: But if they if they're neck and neck, and I'm

1959
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean, I want to find out if this kid

1960
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 1: that I drafted seventh overall is going to cut the

1961
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,839
Speaker 1: mustard or not. I'm only paying him if you factor

1962
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 1: in the signing bonus over four years, I'm only paying

1963
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:57,679
Speaker 1: him just north of what seven seven million dollars. That's

1964
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 1: not a whole lot. And he didn't know whether or

1965
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,679
Speaker 1: not I need to spend some money in free agency

1966
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 1: to bring in a veteran or if I need to

1967
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 1: try again in the draft. And I'd like to know

1968
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 1: sooner than later. But I think McDermott and I we

1969
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:14,679
Speaker 1: have we only have one season for a sample size.

1970
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 1: But if the process quote unquote is really intact, I

1971
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:23,680
Speaker 1: think it will start Peterman because he's quote unquote earned it.

1972
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 1: M I don't know about that, but I do think

1973
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 1: you bring up an interesting point. I don't think from

1974
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 1: what I know a quote thank you in it for calling.

1975
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 1: From what I know of coach McDermott, he's not locked

1976
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 1: into you know, precepts like, well, he's got to earn it,

1977
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 1: you know. But I will say this, Steven, this is

1978
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 1: probably not the right time two minutes before the hour

1979
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: to bring this up. There is a balancing act here

1980
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 1: that I'm sure gets measured every day. We want to

1981
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 1: develop a rookie quarterback, seventh overall significant assets to put

1982
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 1: into getting him here. We like what we've seen so far.

1983
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 1: We want to develop him, and you balance that against

1984
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 1: we want to win games too. Like last year, you know,

1985
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 1: we people thought were tanking. We weren't tanking. We want

1986
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 1: to win games. We owe to the ninety eighty nine

1987
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 1: other guys in the locker room fifty three soon, we

1988
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 1: owe it to them to try to win this week

1989
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:08,640
Speaker 1: and every week. You balance that, And I think what

1990
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 1: might be happening in this quarterback decision you want, I

1991
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 1: want your thoughts on this, he please, is that they

1992
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 1: might be beginning to see, shoot, maybe Josh gives us

1993
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 1: a better chance to win than Nathan Peterman would. And

1994
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of where they are. They're they're

1995
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 1: balancing this as we speak right now. Well, Andrew brought

1996
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 1: something up that I hadn't thought about before. And I've

1997
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:31,680
Speaker 1: read it in other places. So Peterman McCarron are in

1998
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 1: here early. They get a month head start on Josh Allen.

1999
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 1: He comes in, he's trailing him, he's still trying to

2000
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 1: catch up, and there's still this quarterback race going on.

2001
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,600
Speaker 1: And then you get into these two preseason games and

2002
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 1: you look at the numbers. Peterman seventeen of twenty two

2003
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 1: thirty one, two touchdowns, an interception. What has Nathan Peterman

2004
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 1: done to get out played by anybody? But he has

2005
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 1: been outplayed by Josh Allen. I believe, No, don't look

2006
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 1: at John's eighteen to thirty. Listen, you gotta look at

2007
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 1: not about numbers. It's about winning. Who gives you the best,

2008
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 1: the best chance to win? Who gives all fifty three

2009
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,679
Speaker 1: guys the best chance to win? Josh Allen, if you said,

2010
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 1: if you took out Tredavious White and put in some

2011
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 1: Joe Schmo and he give you and the team played

2012
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 1: better around him, aren't you gonna do that? Yeah, it's

2013
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 1: the same hypothetical questions here. Josh Allen has played better

2014
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:23,720
Speaker 1: than Peterman. I believe the numbers. Notwithstanding I disagree, all right,

2015
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty numbers are great he's played well. He

2016
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 1: is he? Come on, Josh Allen has played best play,

2017
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 1: He's played it. They've played equally. Maybe Allen's played better. Break.

2018
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:36,519
Speaker 1: We gotta get to a break. Steve and I got

2019
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 1: a lot more to come. Clearly we have something to

2020
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 1: work out. Sewell knows. The commercial break comes and Josh,

2021
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 1: you might have been played more surprisingly good, but they're

2022
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 1: they're not. He's not playing better, as you well know.

2023
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 1: We have to take a break at two o'clock and

2024
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: take the break. It is One Bill's Live, presented by

2025
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 1: Collat of Hell from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio,

2026
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 1: Hello Hills Radio Network. Stories the update from One Bill's Drive.

2027
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:13,679
Speaker 1: The Bills had a Monday practice this morning. Here today

2028
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 1: they got a full wake of practice leading up to

2029
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 1: the Sunday's game against Cincinnati. Uncertainty at quarterback veteran AJ

2030
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 1: McCarron out with a right shoulder injury. McDermot John McDermot

2031
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 1: says they're going to continue to get a check. No

2032
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 1: timetable on the decision yet. A mccaren rookie Josh Allen

2033
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 1: took snaps with the first team in practice after his

2034
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 1: impressive outing last Friday in preseason game number two, Nathan

2035
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 1: Peterman took snaps with the twos yesterday. They did it

2036
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 1: the other way, Allen with the twos and Peterman were

2037
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 1: the ones. McDermott not ready to say yet whether the

2038
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 1: Bills will sign another quarterback could get him through the

2039
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 1: week and the rest of the preseason. He says they

2040
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 1: have discussed that option. The Bills third round draft pick

2041
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips in the lineup in place of injured veteran

2042
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:53,639
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams. He is Williams week to week. Bills players

2043
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 1: tomorrow out back on Wednesday, getting ready for preseason game

2044
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 1: number three Bills in the Ben Goal Sunday at four

2045
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 1: yes Today, the Bills signed defensive lineman Tenny Palopoy back

2046
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 1: on the roster. He was released just before training camp.

2047
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 1: Signed this past spring by the Bills, Palopoy spent three

2048
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,839
Speaker 1: of the last four seasons with the Los Angeles Chargers.

2049
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:15,560
Speaker 1: Several Bills veteran defensive players spoke out yesterday about the

2050
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:19,759
Speaker 1: block that Jarvis Landry had on Bill's Rickey corner Arren Johnson.

2051
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 1: They said it was dirty. We'll talk about that in

2052
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 1: the next half hour. Former Bills cornerback EJ. Gaines, now

2053
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 1: with Cleveland, suffered a right knee spring in practice yesterday.

2054
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 1: He was carted off the field. He will be out

2055
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 1: three weeks. According to ESPN. Gaines signed with the Browns

2056
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:35,680
Speaker 1: and March as a free agency after playing year with

2057
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:38,599
Speaker 1: the Bills. Zack Martin got good news when his MRI

2058
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 1: came back. He suffered a knee injury. He will be

2059
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 1: back soon, though he will not miss a considerable time.

2060
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:47,639
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins hosting free agent running back Adrian Peterson today,

2061
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 1: one day after meeting with Jamal Charles. Washington has lost

2062
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 1: a couple of the running backs over the last three weeks.

2063
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 1: Peterson made seven Pro Bowls and ten seasons with the

2064
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. And there's Monday Night Football tonight to Baltimore Ravens.

2065
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:03,599
Speaker 1: Buffalo's opponent on September ninth in Indianapolis to play the Colts.

2066
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:06,680
Speaker 1: It's at eight o'clock kickoff tonight on ESPN and that

2067
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 1: gets us going for our number three. What's been a

2068
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:11,799
Speaker 1: pretty good show, John Murphy Steve Tasker at One Bill's

2069
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 1: Drive with One Bill's Live. We had that hour, so

2070
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:16,720
Speaker 1: we had Greg Cosell on earlier in the show, and

2071
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:19,800
Speaker 1: he asked me about the Jarvis Landry block, and he

2072
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 1: doesn't ask me anything. Right, As you well know, John,

2073
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:27,839
Speaker 1: the guys here on the Buffalo Sideline, in the Buffalo

2074
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 1: locker room, they Jarvis Landry ended this career, ostensibly ended

2075
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 1: the career of a really good safety, William with a

2076
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 1: with a shot on a crackback block. And he came

2077
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:41,440
Speaker 1: in and did the same thing. He was with the

2078
01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: the Dolphins then, of course, and then now he's with

2079
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 1: the Browns. He did the same thing the other night

2080
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 1: on Friday night. To believe it was Taren Johnson, right, Yeah, Um,

2081
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 1: I have a hard time and I know it's Jarvis

2082
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 1: lander I know what it's, what it means, and I

2083
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 1: know the history with that. But I thought that was

2084
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 1: actually an okay hit. I know he could have done less,

2085
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 1: and you would like to see that if you're particularly

2086
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:08,640
Speaker 1: if you're a Bills fan. But um, I thought it

2087
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 1: was a legal hit. It was. It was a hard hit.

2088
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 1: Tarren Johnson got up and walked away from which was great,

2089
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 1: But he did turn sideways. He didn't use his helmet,

2090
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 1: he used the upper part of his arm and his

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01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 1: body next to him. I hate to see it yeah.

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01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 1: So I know there's a lot of Bills fans don't

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01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:27,680
Speaker 1: like him, and they've got it in for Jarvis and

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01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 1: for good reason. But in this case, I'm you know,

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01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 1: I just kind of have to shrug my shoulder to say,

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01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of you kind of gotta live

2097
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:37,759
Speaker 1: with it. I think you need to throw that block

2098
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 1: in preseason, well way, you need to block the guy.

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01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,679
Speaker 1: I got it. The block was effective right on the run. Yeah,

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01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 1: I think you gotta go well yeah, And I don't know,

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01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 1: And like I said when Greg Landry, Greg Cosell uh

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01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:53,920
Speaker 1: asked me about it, I don't know how he's being coached.

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01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't know whether he's being browbeaten to say, hey,

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01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 1: you got to go in there. I would say, you know,

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01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 1: maybe with his offensive coordinator, maybe he was being saying, listen,

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01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 1: going to go in there and light that guy up

2107
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 1: where it's not a good block. I mean, I don't

2108
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:05,880
Speaker 1: know if he's getting that coach like that or not.

2109
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, certainly he made the block. So

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01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 1: made a couple of Bills talked about it. Yesterday. A

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01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 1: couple of Bills defenders talked about it, and including veteran

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01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 1: safety Micah Hyde, here's what he had to say about

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01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry's block on Terren Johnson. That's ridiculous because if

2114
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,719
Speaker 1: a defensive player does that's a offensive player. He's getting ejected.

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01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 1: I don't care if you if he left his shoulder

2116
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:30,200
Speaker 1: or not. He's coming all the way from number one

2117
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:33,360
Speaker 1: by the past the numbers and flying down into onto

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01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 1: the hashes and just cleaning up somebody. That's the same.

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01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 1: That's the same as I play that. Uh, Aaron Williams

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01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 1: got hit on a couple of years back and and

2121
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 1: basically from in his career. UM, to me, that's that's SBS.

2122
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 1: You can't do that. Um. All he had to do

2123
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 1: is get position, screen him off. He doesn't have to

2124
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 1: come in and try to kill anybody. And and to me,

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01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 1: that's that's it's ridiculous because, like I said, if a

2126
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 1: defensive player does that, he's gonna throw out the game.

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01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 1: Micah talk. Defensive player would be ejected. And I don't

2128
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 1: think you can And I get it where you like,

2129
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, everybody likes to see the ball throwing around.

2130
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 1: It's like see offensive score a lot of points high flighting.

2131
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 1: But you know what, you can't have it both ways.

2132
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 1: You got to give the defenders. Um, you got to

2133
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 1: give them a way to protect themselves. And you gotta

2134
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 1: because Jarvis Landry. You know, it was said that Terren

2135
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 1: Johnson said he apologized after he made the hit. Well,

2136
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, that's one thing, but you know, offensive players

2137
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 1: will start to apologize after the hits, so they know

2138
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 1: because they know if they don't, there's gonna be retaliation.

2139
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 1: And I mean that's still for all the sports, for

2140
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 1: all the stuff that goes on, for all the stuff

2141
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 1: that goes on with the instigators and the hockey player

2142
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 1: that there's something about standing up and saying, listen, if

2143
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:44,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna do that, you're gonna pay a price. And

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01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:47,680
Speaker 1: I think Landry yet to pay a price. That's right.

2145
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 1: It's hard to see a guy get away with it twice. Um,

2146
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 1: it's hard to live with if you're a defender. And

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01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 1: I and I get it, I totally get it. Another

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01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:58,760
Speaker 1: Bill's veteran talked about it yesterday. Lorenzo Alexander had this

2149
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:01,799
Speaker 1: to say about the Jars Landry's hit on Tarren Johnson.

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01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 1: It was dirty, I mean, yeah, charming, and then Jarvis,

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01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that's a penalmy I mean it's

2152
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 1: already well, you can't come in back into the box

2153
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 1: like that and back back on. Somebody obviously hit him

2154
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 1: with his shoulder, but it's affility and it's a dirty play.

2155
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he obviously did it to Aaron Williams and

2156
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 1: now did it to It's Rhyn the other day. So

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01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:22,599
Speaker 1: that's something that he needs to be fined for because

2158
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 1: I called for his game. Especially as defenders, we're going

2159
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:27,720
Speaker 1: to make clean plays and getting flags on all over us.

2160
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 1: If they want to take and clean the game up,

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01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 1: they even put the offense and make him lible as well.

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01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,680
Speaker 1: Lorenzo with a similar playing. By the way, Landry when

2163
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,160
Speaker 1: he was with the Dolphins was penalized. He wasn't penalized

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01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 1: the other day for that hit. He was penalized for

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01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 1: the Aaron Williams hit, finding twenty four thousand dollars. Did

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01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 1: apologize then, clearly, and we're gonna talk about this. Dean

2167
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 1: Blandie was going to join us at two thirty bottom

2168
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 1: of this hour. Clearly, defensive players on the Bills and

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01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 1: the league are a little bit sensitive now about the

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01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:54,600
Speaker 1: scrutiny there under for their hits, and they see a

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01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:56,719
Speaker 1: hit like that from an offensive player and they're like, whoa,

2172
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 1: we can't do that? How can he get away with it? Yeah,

2173
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:03,480
Speaker 1: and I agree it maybe they should, you know, disallow

2174
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 1: crackback blocks nowadays, you know, they make it's not that difficult.

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01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 1: You know, the guy can't come in and do that. Certainly,

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01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:14,920
Speaker 1: I guess it's not illegal now. But if if they're

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01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:18,320
Speaker 1: going to do all this, uh taking away that kind

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01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:20,560
Speaker 1: of hit from the defenders and all the things that

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01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:23,040
Speaker 1: defenders now cannot do in the National Football League that

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01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 1: we once took for granted, it's nothing wrong with taking

2181
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 1: one or two of those things away from the offense either.

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01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:31,760
Speaker 1: In my opinion, it hasn't been done yet. Maybe this

2183
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 1: will spur some action, or things like this would spur

2184
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 1: some action. Let's take a few phone calls your takeaways

2185
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 1: from Friday's game. Interesting tweet from Kevin mcquoy says, I'd

2186
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:43,640
Speaker 1: love to hear those conversations you guys have during these commercials.

2187
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:48,840
Speaker 1: This past commercial we talked about Steve's uh is eating

2188
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 1: at the fair yesterday and yeah, I'm swept today, you're

2189
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 1: sweating out today. You don't want to hear these, Kevin.

2190
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 1: We're talking well into the last segment over going. You

2191
01:43:57,720 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 1: told me that you thought Josh Allen outplayed in Night

2192
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 1: and Peterman. You're nuts. No, I'm not nuts. How could

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01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman play any better than he's played here than

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01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 1: that you're telling. Probably Josh Allen had no chance, probably

2195
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 1: can't played much better than he's played, and he's played well.

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01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman, he probably is right at his ceiling right now.

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01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 1: What you've seen in those two games is pretty much

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01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:19,639
Speaker 1: what the best that you'll get from Nathan Peterman, which

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01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 1: is okay. I love Nathan Peterman. I'm not in an

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01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 1: anti Peterman. I love him, but you're right, he can't

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01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 1: play any better than he has. You're telling others can

2202
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 1: play better than he has, and I think Josh Allen

2203
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 1: has outperformed him over the first two games. Is that

2204
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 1: going to continue forever and ever? I don't know. I'd

2205
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 1: like to see more from Josh Allen. Peterman couldn't have

2206
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 1: been more productive in the time that he got on

2207
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 1: in the preseason so far. How do you um set

2208
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:48,680
Speaker 1: somebody ahead of him just because because Josh Allen has

2209
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 1: a much stronger, better all I'm sorry, I thought you

2210
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 1: asked me a question. Sorry, ahead, he has a much

2211
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 1: better arm, stronger arm, and has a potential to make

2212
01:44:56,400 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 1: bigger plays. He already has made bigger plays. If Josh,

2213
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 1: if Josh Allen was a rookie free agent, undrafted and

2214
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 1: came into you wouldn't even give it a second thought.

2215
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:09,200
Speaker 1: You wouldn't even he wouldn't even be on your radio.

2216
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 1: Seventh overall, Yeah, if you could be objective, I'm pretty objective.

2217
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 1: You're you're everything, but objective. You think that you see

2218
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,720
Speaker 1: because he's because they invested all this in him, all

2219
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:22,759
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he has to play good and whatever

2220
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:25,760
Speaker 1: he does is ten times better than it actually is. No,

2221
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:29,680
Speaker 1: that's not that's your your Your judgment is colored by

2222
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:32,720
Speaker 1: the draft position that that kid got taken in you have.

2223
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 1: You cannot see it objectively. I'm telling you right now,

2224
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 1: you're wrong. You need some help. George and Buffalo has

2225
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 1: a thought on this. Steve Well knows. George and Buffalo

2226
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 1: is on the line. Go ahead, George, listen, yes, George,

2227
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 1: tell me, Please tell me, but listen. There is no

2228
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:57,760
Speaker 1: way that Josh Allen has outperformed Mason Peterman, no way.

2229
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:02,000
Speaker 1: The opposition one. And there's starters which Josh Allen has

2230
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:05,599
Speaker 1: not done. As it yet. Also, if I'm the Bills

2231
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 1: right now, Josh Allen is playing with house money, why

2232
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 1: don't you go into that next preseason game, play Peterman

2233
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:14,800
Speaker 1: against the starters for as long as you can, and

2234
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:17,599
Speaker 1: then if you don't think Peterman's performing up to par,

2235
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 1: you play Josh Allen week one. You have nothing to lose.

2236
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 1: He's playing with house money because he's the first round pick.

2237
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 1: But at this point there's no way that Josh Allen

2238
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:27,680
Speaker 1: has about played Nathan Peterman. I'd rather go the other

2239
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:29,640
Speaker 1: way and let Josh play against the ones, with the

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01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 1: ones against the ones this week, which he may and

2241
01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 1: then make an evaluation because I think you, yeah, Nathan

2242
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 1: Peterman's played well, but I think you know what you're

2243
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 1: getting with him. With Josh, you might get more than

2244
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,760
Speaker 1: even what you've seen. So George has a good call

2245
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 1: it because you agreed with me. But I kind of

2246
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:46,639
Speaker 1: got to agree with Murph about how I would handle

2247
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks from this point on. I want to I

2248
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:51,040
Speaker 1: need to see more of Josh to know whether he's

2249
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 1: ready or not. Peterman, I don't think it's gonna change

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01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:57,719
Speaker 1: his development by playing him three quarters of the next

2251
01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 1: game against Sinnati at four o'clock next Sunday. I think

2252
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 1: it will help Allan and your evaluation and you'll get

2253
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 1: a better sense of who and who he is right

2254
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 1: at this moment and the next couple of weeks. If

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01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:13,680
Speaker 1: you play him that whole game against Cincinnati, let it,

2256
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:16,160
Speaker 1: Let's see what he's got for the whole game with

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01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 1: the ones against their number ones. Because then if you

2258
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 1: want to go back and say, Okay, Josh played, he's

2259
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 1: got a little rough spots, he's got some problems. We're

2260
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:25,799
Speaker 1: gonna sit him down for the next couple of weeks,

2261
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 1: and we're gonna put Nathan Peterman in to start against

2262
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 1: Baltimore on Week one, and we're gonna go there. Because

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01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 1: I think that's what you don't know. You know Nathan Peterman.

2264
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 1: You don't know Josh Allen what he could do. And

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01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 1: I think I'm with you, Murph. I want to see

2266
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:43,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen all day this coming Sunday. I want to

2267
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 1: talking about September ninth. By the way, I'm not and

2268
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm with you because that's what you don't know. That

2269
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 1: Let's find out what we don't know about Josh Allen,

2270
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 1: because there's a question now he may be ready to play.

2271
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 1: He looks good. He's done some good things, and he

2272
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 1: improved week one of the preseason to week two now,

2273
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:01,799
Speaker 1: albeit against different teams and all of that and different

2274
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:04,679
Speaker 1: weapons and all of that other stuff, all the stuff

2275
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 1: that's out of his control. He continued to look good

2276
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 1: and in fact even better, and even Greg Kosell said, yeah,

2277
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 1: I saw him. Yeah, you know, he did some things better.

2278
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 1: He looks like he's being coached and he's taken well. Okay,

2279
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 1: let's see, you know, I think that's the way to go.

2280
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 1: I want to see him on Sunday. We talked today

2281
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 1: about a potentially can't believe I just said. We talked

2282
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 1: to me about a Twitter poll that we will get

2283
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 1: to this week. Who should start this Sunday, But it

2284
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:33,400
Speaker 1: sounds like it's already starting. You have a groundswell for

2285
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 1: either guy, Jim and Lancaster. Go ahead, Jim, you're on

2286
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 1: the air. Hi, guys, I just wanted to say, uh,

2287
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of agree with Steve about putting

2288
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 1: Peterman in. Uh what are you talking about this Sunday

2289
01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 1: or Sunday September nine? Sunday Secember nine? Okay, I only

2290
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 1: believe that he should start. Um, you know, you guys

2291
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 1: also have to understand that he's also developing as well.

2292
01:48:57,200 --> 01:49:00,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Josh Allen is a nineteen ninety six birthday, Um, Peter,

2293
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 1: and Peter end is not far off. He's second year

2294
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:05,759
Speaker 1: in the league. Um. You don't want to rush people's development,

2295
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:07,920
Speaker 1: just like the same as hockey, with what Potter is

2296
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 1: doing with some of the some of the athletes sound

2297
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 1: in the American League, you don't. You don't want to

2298
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:15,240
Speaker 1: force h Josh Allen, and then something can happen like

2299
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:18,080
Speaker 1: what happened with EJ. Manuel or a few other Clarvacs

2300
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:21,840
Speaker 1: in the league that way. And yeah, time as an essence,

2301
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 1: all right, I hear what you're saying. You make it's

2302
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:28,360
Speaker 1: a ballad point EJ. Look, EJ probably didn't belong where

2303
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 1: he was drafted, you know, and they kind of forced

2304
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:34,759
Speaker 1: himself reached. Yeah, they reached for him. So the damage

2305
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:36,679
Speaker 1: that can be done by playing a guy too early,

2306
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:40,679
Speaker 1: I need someone someday, not not now. I need someone

2307
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 1: to explain to me exactly how that works. So we

2308
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:44,760
Speaker 1: started him too early and we ruined him. Does that

2309
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 1: really happen if a guy's good? Does that really happen,

2310
01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 1: and it's good. It's interesting point because we all think

2311
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:52,759
Speaker 1: it could happen. Well, it didn't happen to making Peterman.

2312
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 1: He didn't get crushed by getting No one's ever here

2313
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:57,479
Speaker 1: the worst start, right, And I mean that, you know,

2314
01:49:57,600 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 1: Ryan Leaf, maybe it did, but I don't know. Ryan

2315
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:01,800
Speaker 1: Leaf was never to be a guy who overcame that.

2316
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 1: And I think Jim said one thing that I that

2317
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:08,719
Speaker 1: stuck with me. Gets if Josh Allen's a guy, okay,

2318
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 1: but don't force it. Let it happen when it's time

2319
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 1: for it to happen. And if it is, if it

2320
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 1: is by September ninth, okay, um, I get it. If

2321
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 1: it's if it's September twenty eighth, okay, um. Whenever it is,

2322
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 1: make that the time when when he when he when

2323
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 1: we've talked about this in a million times, when he

2324
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 1: earns it, okay, whatever that means, when he gives him

2325
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:34,360
Speaker 1: the best chance to win. Of course, that goes. That

2326
01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 1: happens when the players believe it's gonna happen, when it

2327
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 1: hits time, when they see it too, and the okay,

2328
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:43,600
Speaker 1: that's it. Whenever it is, that's fine. And in the meantime,

2329
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 1: you support Nathan Peterman or a J. Mccarren, whoever it is.

2330
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:49,840
Speaker 1: You you get in there and you support him. You

2331
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 1: try and win with them. You give him everything you

2332
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 1: can give him to be successful because you got a

2333
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 1: season which you have high hopes for. So um, I'm

2334
01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 1: all about it. I think when we get into these

2335
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:01,920
Speaker 1: questions about who's gonna start, I think you and I

2336
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 1: both think it's would be a really good idea to

2337
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 1: give Josh Allen as much time under center as you can.

2338
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:11,840
Speaker 1: Mark Kelsel comes on. We talked about his NASCAR stuff.

2339
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 1: He wants these drivers have seat time. You want Josh

2340
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 1: Allen to have seat You want him driving a car.

2341
01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:17,720
Speaker 1: You wanted to know what it's like in a real race.

2342
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:19,679
Speaker 1: You want to know what it's like when you've got

2343
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:21,679
Speaker 1: like you did the other night, when you got things

2344
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 1: coming apart and you have to step up and make

2345
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 1: a play, and he did it. You'd also like to

2346
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 1: see him when he's got a full running game, when

2347
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:30,559
Speaker 1: he's got a game plan, when he's got all this

2348
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 1: other stuff going on, when he's got a full week

2349
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 1: to prepare. You know, I'm with you. I want to

2350
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:37,560
Speaker 1: see a lot of him this week and I this

2351
01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:39,800
Speaker 1: is a total flip flop from where I was seven days.

2352
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 1: Am I right? You remember? I don't remember. Oh my

2353
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 1: gosh I was. I was like, no way you wanted

2354
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 1: to start him this last week against Cleveland. I was like, no,

2355
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:48,720
Speaker 1: Now you know what I'm I'm totally with you. I

2356
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 1: want to see him all day against Cincinnati, Austin and

2357
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo on the line with U hih Austin by I

2358
01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 1: think Josh Allen's got a point of back year in

2359
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:01,799
Speaker 1: the preseason. I think you could judge by stats or anything.

2360
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 1: I think you got him with the situation wise, I

2361
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 1: think if you would to still Peterman in there, in

2362
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:09,760
Speaker 1: that situation where Murphy missed the block and Alan threw

2363
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 1: at the street for the touchdown at the end of

2364
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 1: the day, I don't think Peterman could have made that

2365
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:16,280
Speaker 1: play or you know a lot of other players that

2366
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 1: Alan was made. So you know that's why I'm thinking

2367
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 1: Allen's about a quarterback here. Okay, let's go to Chris

2368
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:24,880
Speaker 1: and Queens, New York. Hello, Chris, Hey, guys, thanks taking

2369
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 1: my call. John just gonna probably get on this Peterman

2370
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 1: and on debate. Personally, I don't think it's fair to

2371
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 1: say that Alan has outperform Peterman anyway. Peterman, we've seen

2372
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:36,600
Speaker 1: him play with the ones. We saw him play, you

2373
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:38,120
Speaker 1: can't start on with the ones. I think you get

2374
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 1: a really good job playing, but one too um compared

2375
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,719
Speaker 1: for nast year. I think obviously he was very decisive

2376
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 1: last year on the day, very debated that. But I

2377
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 1: think he's shared that you can protect the football a

2378
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:49,800
Speaker 1: little better than he did last year. That's the Jews,

2379
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 1: little flat in at San Diego get a NAT year

2380
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:53,680
Speaker 1: with the five picks. I think a lot was not

2381
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 1: to do with him. But with that said, I still

2382
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:58,519
Speaker 1: think this is an open competition, and I would love

2383
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 1: to see Allen play with the one this week to

2384
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:03,040
Speaker 1: get Cincinnati and hopefully give us a better sense. But

2385
01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 1: right now, I don't think you can debate that Erman's

2386
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:07,559
Speaker 1: got to be the number one guy at the moment. Oh,

2387
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:11,840
Speaker 1: we've debated it. And here's the good news. We don't

2388
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:13,600
Speaker 1: have to have a decision on this now. Right we

2389
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:15,719
Speaker 1: don't have to have a decision on who's starting September

2390
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 1: ninth until September eighth. Really, I mean, you'd like to

2391
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:21,600
Speaker 1: see it done sooner rather than later, But there is

2392
01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:23,360
Speaker 1: a debate, and I think the debate got a little

2393
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 1: stronger based on what happened Friday night time on the

2394
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:29,800
Speaker 1: line from Newfan, Hello, time you're on the air. Hey Murph, Steve,

2395
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:34,560
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Sure M, same discussion.

2396
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 1: I'd like to mention one play he tells us why

2397
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:43,719
Speaker 1: a better quarterback so far, and the play has already

2398
01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:46,800
Speaker 1: been discussed. Is that passed from peer mental? Leary? And

2399
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 1: I think Murphy, you even mentioned that a lyric almost

2400
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:53,200
Speaker 1: got caught. Steve said that the reason the reason he

2401
01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:56,080
Speaker 1: almost got caught was because he had to staff and

2402
01:53:56,160 --> 01:54:00,639
Speaker 1: Pearedrea for the past. I know he's not, but that's

2403
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:02,479
Speaker 1: why you almost guy caught you. And I think that

2404
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:05,760
Speaker 1: tells us why Allen is a better quarterback, because Ellen

2405
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 1: would have had that fall out in front of him.

2406
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:08,960
Speaker 1: Well you can say he would have had the ball

2407
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:10,760
Speaker 1: out in front of him. You don't know. I mean

2408
01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 1: it could have been a better pass, sure M. Josh

2409
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:17,599
Speaker 1: has been known to bet. I gotta disagree with Tom

2410
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 1: Tom from Thanks for the call, Tom, but I disagree

2411
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 1: with you can't take that one pass and say hey,

2412
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:25,360
Speaker 1: that's it. On that pass, the key was completed, so

2413
01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 1: he put it right on and made it an easy catch. Uh.

2414
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 1: Certainly it could have been out in front of him,

2415
01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:34,600
Speaker 1: no question about it. But yeah, I'm not gonna throw

2416
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:37,040
Speaker 1: away everything we've seen from these guys and put it

2417
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 1: boil it down to that one play, meaning why Peterman

2418
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 1: is not as good or should be benched in favor

2419
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen. I'm not gonna do that. Um yeah,

2420
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 1: I think, um yeah, yeah, the pass could have been

2421
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:51,520
Speaker 1: out in front, but it was an easy throw. He

2422
01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:54,800
Speaker 1: made sure the completion and presto chango was a touchdown. Anyway,

2423
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 1: It's one more call on this from Chuck in Clarence.

2424
01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Chuck here on the air. I guess, um,

2425
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:05,000
Speaker 1: I think I agree with you Murph pretty strongly about Josh.

2426
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got the arm. You haven't seen an

2427
01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 1: arm like that, I think since Kelly, what should I

2428
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:12,160
Speaker 1: remember him coming in? Yeah, he can make all the

2429
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 1: throws and the other thing. And I heard this on

2430
01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 1: gr this morning too, And then I heard you guys

2431
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 1: say a couple of times everybody wants to throw Peterman

2432
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 1: and first and then pull him out, And I'm thinking, yeah,

2433
01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 1: because we know really what the inevitable bill. Then the

2434
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 1: inevitable Bill is in there, and it's and it's Josh Allen.

2435
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 1: So well, here's the thing, Chuck, let me ask you this. Okay, inevitably,

2436
01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:34,120
Speaker 1: no question, Josh Allen's going to be the number one quarterback.

2437
01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 1: You know what tips the scale as to when you

2438
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:40,680
Speaker 1: make the decision? I mean, here's the thing, Because the

2439
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:43,160
Speaker 1: balance is this, you put him into early, you lose

2440
01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 1: games that maybe Peterman would have won, right, or you

2441
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 1: wait too long and Peterman loses games you think you

2442
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 1: could have won. How about you put him in and

2443
01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:52,920
Speaker 1: he wins games that Peterman might not have won with

2444
01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:55,520
Speaker 1: the throw like the throw to Rod Street or that

2445
01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 1: type of play. I think that I think there's an

2446
01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 1: extreme risk factor in both of them. But I'd rather

2447
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:02,560
Speaker 1: go with the guy that can make all the throws.

2448
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right, what about the guy that can

2449
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:07,800
Speaker 1: make all the reads? I think the time is no, Chuck,

2450
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 1: what about the guy that, instead of a guy that

2451
01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 1: can make all the throws, the guy that can make

2452
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 1: all the reads and throw it to the right guy. Well,

2453
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, do we know that? Though? I mean, well,

2454
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 1: that's a good question. The Bills say, the Bills are

2455
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 1: watching these guys in camp and where you don't see them.

2456
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:22,320
Speaker 1: They're out there now with a clothes camp. You know,

2457
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:24,480
Speaker 1: they have extra information that we don't have. And I'm

2458
01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:28,440
Speaker 1: you know, we have to trust them, I guess and know, Yeah,

2459
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:30,080
Speaker 1: we do. We have no choice. But Chuck, here's the

2460
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 1: thing too, I mean, what if you know they don't

2461
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 1: know what you know? They can't know. I mean Sean McDermott,

2462
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 1: Brian Dable, Uh, those Cully those guys don't know. I mean,

2463
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:46,280
Speaker 1: how do they find out. We're not gonna We're not

2464
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:48,760
Speaker 1: going to know if they don't, right, We're not gonna know.

2465
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:50,280
Speaker 1: If they don't know that, how can they find out?

2466
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:52,480
Speaker 1: By doing it in practice and everything scripted? You can't

2467
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:54,800
Speaker 1: find out if the guy's gonna know you. Yeah, you

2468
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 1: do have to trust I did. And right now they're

2469
01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:00,360
Speaker 1: flip flopping and taking the ones in two. I don't

2470
01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:02,840
Speaker 1: think they've made the decision. All right, a break, We're

2471
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:05,240
Speaker 1: back with more. And when we come back. Dean Blandino,

2472
01:57:05,480 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 1: longtime NFL Vice president of officiating. He's now with Fox Sports.

2473
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:12,280
Speaker 1: We don't get it here, but there is a firestorm

2474
01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 1: around the NFL about the head, the lower in the

2475
01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:16,920
Speaker 1: head initiating contact with the head and a lot of

2476
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 1: people are upset about this. We'll talk with Dean Blandino

2477
01:57:19,120 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 1: about it when we come back. Come on back with

2478
01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:23,839
Speaker 1: us One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo

2479
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back, One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive,

2480
01:57:39,360 --> 01:57:42,200
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio or

2481
01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 1: our home. No more training camp, no more sunshine, no

2482
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:47,320
Speaker 1: more fans watching the show. Steve, I miss it, but

2483
01:57:47,480 --> 01:57:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be all No more three hours in

2484
01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 1: the car with Steve. That's really what Harry Terry said.

2485
01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:54,440
Speaker 1: It's nice to be back in the friendly confine, the

2486
01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 1: friendly confines of One Bill's Drive, in our ad Pro

2487
01:57:57,760 --> 01:57:59,440
Speaker 1: Sports Center. What do we call this stud the One

2488
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:01,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo stud There's a lot going on in the NFL

2489
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:04,560
Speaker 1: as far as officiating, three major changes in rules, and

2490
01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:07,720
Speaker 1: of course the helmet hit, the initiating contact by Lauren

2491
01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:10,200
Speaker 1: the helmet is what's on everybody's mind. Joining us right

2492
01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:12,160
Speaker 1: now in the subway, Fresh take Colin, a man who

2493
01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:13,760
Speaker 1: knows a thing or two about this. He was the

2494
01:58:14,360 --> 01:58:17,680
Speaker 1: NFL Vice president of officiating for five years now. He's

2495
01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 1: Fox Sports College Football and NFL rules analysts, college football

2496
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 1: officiating director of Instant Replay. Happy to have Dean Blandino

2497
01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:25,600
Speaker 1: on the line with us. Dean is John Murphy and

2498
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:27,840
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker in Buffalo. Thank you very much for joining us.

2499
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:30,960
Speaker 1: No problem. Hey, we got to talk about these new rules.

2500
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 1: But first we've had a little debate here and some bills.

2501
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 1: Vetteran yesterday, we're talking about Jarvis Landry's block on Bill's

2502
01:58:37,600 --> 01:58:41,160
Speaker 1: rookie corner Terren Johnson on Friday night, you saw it?

2503
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:44,200
Speaker 1: Is it an illegal crackback as an illegal hit? What

2504
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 1: did you think of it? Well, it's close. I mean,

2505
01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 1: I haven't seen coaches copy yet, and I want to

2506
01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:51,400
Speaker 1: take a look at that, but he can't. It looked

2507
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:53,880
Speaker 1: like it was shoulder, but he can't go to the

2508
01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:56,520
Speaker 1: headneck if he's coming outside in like that, he can't

2509
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:59,480
Speaker 1: go to the head neck area. And it was really close,

2510
01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:03,280
Speaker 1: you know, defensive players protected from that contact up high

2511
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:05,320
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I want to take a look

2512
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:08,160
Speaker 1: at the coach's copy, but it certainly could have been

2513
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:10,880
Speaker 1: flat because it was close enough to that neck area.

2514
01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:15,120
Speaker 1: And obviously that's a you know, that's a sensitive topic

2515
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:18,440
Speaker 1: with with Jarvis's history against the Bills, you know, all

2516
01:59:18,520 --> 01:59:20,760
Speaker 1: back to the end with Aaron Williams block. Yeah, as

2517
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 1: long as he goes like below the shoulder on the

2518
01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:26,120
Speaker 1: defender and doesn't hit it with his head or any

2519
01:59:26,160 --> 01:59:28,200
Speaker 1: of that stuff, it's okay. But yeah, and you're right

2520
01:59:28,280 --> 01:59:31,720
Speaker 1: that it seemed like the defender he hit him right

2521
01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:34,800
Speaker 1: on the shoulder. But because the reason I know that

2522
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 1: is because the defender's head snapped over like with whiplash,

2523
01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:41,560
Speaker 1: so you knew he didn't. So um. Yeah, And it's

2524
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 1: it's a sensitive topic here in Buffalo. We've we've debated,

2525
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:47,440
Speaker 1: like you said, but I agree that if you if

2526
01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:50,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna protect the offensive players when they're running around

2527
01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:53,680
Speaker 1: the secondary, it should probably go the other way. How

2528
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:56,360
Speaker 1: difficult is that to make happen, though, No, I mean

2529
01:59:56,400 --> 02:00:02,120
Speaker 1: there's there's no doubt. And historically, when you think about officiating,

2530
02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:05,200
Speaker 1: it's just there's so many when it comes to safety rules,

2531
02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:09,480
Speaker 1: there's so many more opportunities for defenders to foul than

2532
02:00:09,560 --> 02:00:12,480
Speaker 1: it is for offensive players. So the slant has always

2533
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:15,200
Speaker 1: been and even in the officials mind that we're watching

2534
02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:18,360
Speaker 1: the defender initially. But I think a lot of these

2535
02:00:18,440 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 1: rules that have been put in place, protecting the defensive players,

2536
02:00:21,720 --> 02:00:25,160
Speaker 1: the crackback, that type of thing that outside in block.

2537
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:27,800
Speaker 1: I think it's something the officials just have to continue

2538
02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:30,920
Speaker 1: to look for. You have blindside blocks that happen, especially

2539
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:33,560
Speaker 1: in the kicking game, where they have to protect those

2540
02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:36,920
Speaker 1: players from that head net contact because they really can't

2541
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:42,200
Speaker 1: protect themselves in that situation. Fourteen Blandino, former NFL Vice

2542
02:00:42,280 --> 02:00:45,280
Speaker 1: president of officiating, A lot of attention two weeks of

2543
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:49,040
Speaker 1: preseason Dean on the helmet hits in the prohibition against

2544
02:00:49,080 --> 02:00:52,440
Speaker 1: initiating contract by lowering the helmet. What have you seen

2545
02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:55,800
Speaker 1: and knowing what you know about the league's intention here,

2546
02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:59,160
Speaker 1: how do you see this plane out? Yeah, well it

2547
02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:02,360
Speaker 1: hasn't surprised me, and that that we've seen a lot

2548
02:01:02,480 --> 02:01:05,240
Speaker 1: of flags, and that's not that's not different than other

2549
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:09,200
Speaker 1: areas of emphasis where you tell the officials when it's close,

2550
02:01:09,320 --> 02:01:11,800
Speaker 1: call the penalty and then we'll we'll look at the

2551
02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:14,160
Speaker 1: tape and we'll and we'll figure out what direction we

2552
02:01:14,240 --> 02:01:16,000
Speaker 1: want to go on. So I think that's what we're seeing.

2553
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:19,280
Speaker 1: I think unofficially, through the first two weeks, we've had

2554
02:01:19,400 --> 02:01:22,200
Speaker 1: forty eight flags for this for this foul, roughly one

2555
02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:24,440
Speaker 1: and a half per game. UM. I think the league

2556
02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:26,160
Speaker 1: is going to study that. They don't have a lot

2557
02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:28,320
Speaker 1: of time before they started the regular season, but I

2558
02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:31,240
Speaker 1: think you'll see that number drop and they'll really try

2559
02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:36,000
Speaker 1: to pinpoint the obvious violations. But again, this is this

2560
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:39,120
Speaker 1: is a tough hole to officiate in real time and

2561
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:40,720
Speaker 1: uh and the official is just going to have to

2562
02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:42,680
Speaker 1: continue to work at it. Didn't I see Dean that

2563
02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:46,880
Speaker 1: Al Riveran is talking about somehow using replay to to

2564
02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:50,120
Speaker 1: officiate this. Did you see that? Yeah, Yeah, I did

2565
02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:53,200
Speaker 1: see that. I think he came on UM and talked

2566
02:01:53,240 --> 02:01:56,200
Speaker 1: about the rule. I think was Pro Football talk, and

2567
02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:59,520
Speaker 1: he mentioned that the committee had discussed replay as part

2568
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:01,760
Speaker 1: of this, and that's always been part of the discussion.

2569
02:02:01,800 --> 02:02:03,880
Speaker 1: When you implement a rule like this, especially if you're

2570
02:02:03,880 --> 02:02:06,640
Speaker 1: going to inject players, you want to get it right.

2571
02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:08,960
Speaker 1: So how do you get it How do you ensure

2572
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:11,720
Speaker 1: that you get it right? You add replay to it.

2573
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:14,480
Speaker 1: I don't think the committee is there yet. You know,

2574
02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:17,080
Speaker 1: there's some concern about adding too much replay to the game.

2575
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:19,160
Speaker 1: And again, I think they're gonna have to see how

2576
02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:22,560
Speaker 1: this plays out, how accurate the officials can be, how

2577
02:02:22,640 --> 02:02:25,560
Speaker 1: consistent they can be in calling it on the field

2578
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:27,600
Speaker 1: and then and then make a determination do they need

2579
02:02:27,640 --> 02:02:30,400
Speaker 1: to add replay. It becomes problematic, I think the issue

2580
02:02:30,640 --> 02:02:32,200
Speaker 1: for a lot of these we see. I mean, you

2581
02:02:32,240 --> 02:02:34,800
Speaker 1: can look back at the we just saw the Minnesota

2582
02:02:34,920 --> 02:02:40,160
Speaker 1: Vikings and the Jacksonville where the defensive back kind of

2583
02:02:40,240 --> 02:02:43,040
Speaker 1: came in and planted his feet and just absorb the

2584
02:02:43,120 --> 02:02:45,680
Speaker 1: running back with his head down. He didn't initiate the contact.

2585
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the real gray area, right who's initiating

2586
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:52,000
Speaker 1: the contact? That's exactly it. And so the rule basically

2587
02:02:52,040 --> 02:02:54,400
Speaker 1: says you can't lower your head and initiate contact with

2588
02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:57,280
Speaker 1: the helmet. So the officials they can see the player

2589
02:02:57,400 --> 02:03:00,560
Speaker 1: lower the head. That seems to be the easy part.

2590
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:03,320
Speaker 1: But then it did he initiate contact with the helmet?

2591
02:03:04,200 --> 02:03:06,880
Speaker 1: Was it? Was it initiated with the shoulder? Was the

2592
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:10,360
Speaker 1: player just trying to protect himself? So all of that

2593
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:14,280
Speaker 1: is again it becomes subjective and it becomes difficult to

2594
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:16,400
Speaker 1: asfitiate in real time, and that's something they're just going

2595
02:03:16,480 --> 02:03:18,280
Speaker 1: to have to continue to work through. And Dean, do

2596
02:03:18,320 --> 02:03:20,280
Speaker 1: you know what you say? Forty eight calls in the

2597
02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:23,400
Speaker 1: first two weeks unofficially forty eight. Yeah, they'll they'll go

2598
02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:25,400
Speaker 1: through and make sure they will report it correctly, but

2599
02:03:25,480 --> 02:03:27,840
Speaker 1: I think that's the number. Through thirty three games, have

2600
02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:31,360
Speaker 1: there been any of those calls on an offensive player? Yet?

2601
02:03:32,160 --> 02:03:35,640
Speaker 1: You know there have been um some blocks, some blind

2602
02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:39,040
Speaker 1: side blocks, things like that that were fouls for several reasons.

2603
02:03:39,240 --> 02:03:42,320
Speaker 1: You have the blindside block rule that prohibits contact as

2604
02:03:42,320 --> 02:03:44,720
Speaker 1: a headneck, but also it was lowering the head and

2605
02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:47,839
Speaker 1: using the helmet to initiate contact. So I don't believe

2606
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:51,080
Speaker 1: they've had a foul on the running back. There might

2607
02:03:51,160 --> 02:03:52,680
Speaker 1: have been one. I'd have to go back and look

2608
02:03:52,720 --> 02:03:55,000
Speaker 1: at the tape, but again it does seem to be

2609
02:03:55,160 --> 02:03:58,200
Speaker 1: and again most of these most of these rules do

2610
02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:01,600
Speaker 1: impact the defense more just because there's more opportunities, but

2611
02:04:01,720 --> 02:04:03,840
Speaker 1: it does apply to both sides of the wall. What

2612
02:04:03,960 --> 02:04:05,360
Speaker 1: do you think the next step is, Dan, Do you

2613
02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:07,000
Speaker 1: think they're going to continue to call these in the

2614
02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:09,480
Speaker 1: preseason and get a better feel for what they want

2615
02:04:09,560 --> 02:04:11,760
Speaker 1: and whatnot? I mean, because and you may know this

2616
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:14,240
Speaker 1: from your time in the NFL. Do they tell these

2617
02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:16,040
Speaker 1: guys they listen, let's call and then we'll go back

2618
02:04:16,080 --> 02:04:18,000
Speaker 1: and look and say, yeah, this is not a foul.

2619
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:20,080
Speaker 1: You know, they really to care if they get it right.

2620
02:04:20,120 --> 02:04:22,720
Speaker 1: In the preseason, it's more about clarifying what is and

2621
02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:25,600
Speaker 1: isn't going to be a foul. Correct, That's exactly it.

2622
02:04:25,720 --> 02:04:29,000
Speaker 1: And the numbers, the numbers basically tell that story because

2623
02:04:29,000 --> 02:04:31,880
Speaker 1: when you look at preseason foul numbers per game, it's

2624
02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:34,280
Speaker 1: always higher than the regular season because you have these

2625
02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:38,040
Speaker 1: points of emphasis. Officials are trying to set the bar,

2626
02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:40,920
Speaker 1: They're trying to figure out where the line is. So

2627
02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:43,360
Speaker 1: I think we'll continue to see that, especially going into

2628
02:04:43,400 --> 02:04:45,720
Speaker 1: Week three of the preseason, because that's going to be

2629
02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:48,720
Speaker 1: the closest we get to regular season in terms of

2630
02:04:48,800 --> 02:04:51,640
Speaker 1: speed and physicality. So I think this week will be

2631
02:04:51,760 --> 02:04:55,040
Speaker 1: a good test and they'll they'll have some good tape

2632
02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:58,120
Speaker 1: to look at and have. You know, we can have

2633
02:04:58,240 --> 02:05:00,080
Speaker 1: two weeks to figure it out before the start the

2634
02:05:00,120 --> 02:05:01,680
Speaker 1: regular sea. He did a couple of weeks ago a

2635
02:05:01,720 --> 02:05:04,280
Speaker 1: training camp. We had a new referee, Shawan Smith, on

2636
02:05:04,400 --> 02:05:06,600
Speaker 1: with us and we got talking about this rule, and

2637
02:05:07,040 --> 02:05:08,800
Speaker 1: it struck me then and I'm thinking about it now.

2638
02:05:08,920 --> 02:05:11,120
Speaker 1: Part of what's going on here is the league's attempt

2639
02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:14,320
Speaker 1: to change behavior. Right, and you were probably you were

2640
02:05:14,440 --> 02:05:16,320
Speaker 1: might have been the man in charge when they lowered

2641
02:05:16,360 --> 02:05:20,720
Speaker 1: the hit on the head and players adjust it is

2642
02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:22,560
Speaker 1: this what is they're trying to make happ in here?

2643
02:05:22,640 --> 02:05:25,720
Speaker 1: Players adjust to a thing that is not instinctive, you know,

2644
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:27,400
Speaker 1: using the head. They're trying to get them out of

2645
02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:29,920
Speaker 1: that habit. And until they do that, they will call

2646
02:05:30,040 --> 02:05:32,320
Speaker 1: this with some frequency. Is that legitimate? Do you think?

2647
02:05:32,800 --> 02:05:36,520
Speaker 1: No question, No question. They're trying to change and it's

2648
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:39,040
Speaker 1: it's a big change, and it's a culture change. I

2649
02:05:39,200 --> 02:05:41,160
Speaker 1: go back to when I first started at the league

2650
02:05:41,240 --> 02:05:43,120
Speaker 1: office and I was an intern and I was just

2651
02:05:43,160 --> 02:05:45,280
Speaker 1: putting together video and one of the projects I was

2652
02:05:45,320 --> 02:05:47,920
Speaker 1: working on was a Chuck Cecil tape. And if you

2653
02:05:48,400 --> 02:05:51,680
Speaker 1: remember Chuck Cecil, I mean, if you put that tape

2654
02:05:51,720 --> 02:05:55,080
Speaker 1: on today and that was acceptable back then, if you

2655
02:05:55,120 --> 02:05:57,160
Speaker 1: put that tape on today, people would say, Wow, they

2656
02:05:57,200 --> 02:06:00,440
Speaker 1: allowed that. In the NFL, it's laughing and now exactly,

2657
02:06:00,560 --> 02:06:03,000
Speaker 1: And so you've seen that, and it's going to take time.

2658
02:06:03,400 --> 02:06:05,880
Speaker 1: But they're continuing to put in rules to try to

2659
02:06:06,040 --> 02:06:08,000
Speaker 1: get the head out of the game, and it's not

2660
02:06:08,160 --> 02:06:10,440
Speaker 1: going to be perfect and it's not going to happen overnight.

2661
02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:12,760
Speaker 1: I think that's the goal. And I think that's what

2662
02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:15,320
Speaker 1: we're seeing that we're talking to Dean Blandino about NFL

2663
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:16,920
Speaker 1: rules and one of the things you said there that

2664
02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:19,800
Speaker 1: really is the crux of the entire equation, Dean. It's

2665
02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:22,480
Speaker 1: not just rule changes we're talking about. It's culture changes

2666
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:25,560
Speaker 1: and it's behavior changes that are going to really that

2667
02:06:25,640 --> 02:06:27,960
Speaker 1: are profound, really more, I think for the first time

2668
02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:30,560
Speaker 1: in the history of the league, it's more about the

2669
02:06:30,680 --> 02:06:32,840
Speaker 1: players learning a new way to play rather than just

2670
02:06:33,400 --> 02:06:35,440
Speaker 1: you know, where they can grab and where they can't grab,

2671
02:06:35,480 --> 02:06:37,160
Speaker 1: where they can line up, where they can't, who they

2672
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:39,120
Speaker 1: can hit here and who they can hit there. It's

2673
02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:42,360
Speaker 1: it's a culture change now, That's exactly it. And I

2674
02:06:42,440 --> 02:06:44,320
Speaker 1: think you know in the league put out they had

2675
02:06:44,520 --> 02:06:49,120
Speaker 1: several head coaches put out position specific videos and over

2676
02:06:49,200 --> 02:06:52,120
Speaker 1: and over, what you know watching these videos, what you

2677
02:06:52,200 --> 02:06:55,080
Speaker 1: hear over and over is you know, knees bent, pads low,

2678
02:06:55,280 --> 02:06:57,760
Speaker 1: head up and that, and that's really something that is coached,

2679
02:06:58,280 --> 02:07:00,360
Speaker 1: you know, should be being coached at every level. And

2680
02:07:00,680 --> 02:07:03,320
Speaker 1: again that's where it's not always possible to keep the

2681
02:07:03,400 --> 02:07:05,840
Speaker 1: head up. But what the injury data tells us is

2682
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:07,880
Speaker 1: that if the head is up, you're less likely to

2683
02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:11,440
Speaker 1: get a concussion. And that's just where the league wants

2684
02:07:11,480 --> 02:07:14,120
Speaker 1: to go and just try to change. Change, like you said,

2685
02:07:14,200 --> 02:07:16,720
Speaker 1: change the culture and how and how players make tackles,

2686
02:07:16,760 --> 02:07:20,120
Speaker 1: how they deliver blocks and all of that. Agean one

2687
02:07:20,160 --> 02:07:22,760
Speaker 1: more rules change to ask you about. And again, we're

2688
02:07:22,800 --> 02:07:25,560
Speaker 1: only two weeks into preseason here, but the kickoffs seemed

2689
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:27,880
Speaker 1: to have gone smoothly and I don't see any major

2690
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:31,040
Speaker 1: changes yet. And the way teams are handling kickoffs, I

2691
02:07:31,120 --> 02:07:33,240
Speaker 1: know there were some officials who wondered if they you know,

2692
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:35,600
Speaker 1: some officials are this is a brand new play that

2693
02:07:35,680 --> 02:07:37,720
Speaker 1: we're looking at on kickoffs now. But it so far,

2694
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:40,640
Speaker 1: it seems to be running pretty smoothly, doesn't it. Yeah,

2695
02:07:40,640 --> 02:07:43,000
Speaker 1: I think so. I think that it was a challenge

2696
02:07:43,360 --> 02:07:47,120
Speaker 1: because of all the formation restrictions and the changes. I

2697
02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:49,240
Speaker 1: think it was a challenge for the officiating department to

2698
02:07:49,280 --> 02:07:51,760
Speaker 1: come up with just the mechanics of covering the play.

2699
02:07:51,800 --> 02:07:54,040
Speaker 1: And I think they're working through that and I think

2700
02:07:54,080 --> 02:07:57,720
Speaker 1: what we're seeing, and again, preseason is always going to

2701
02:07:57,760 --> 02:08:00,440
Speaker 1: be a little bit different than the regular season. They

2702
02:08:00,920 --> 02:08:03,320
Speaker 1: want to see kick returns, they want to see the

2703
02:08:03,600 --> 02:08:06,640
Speaker 1: kick team cover uh in terms of, you know, in

2704
02:08:06,800 --> 02:08:09,400
Speaker 1: terms of on the team side. So we'll we'll see

2705
02:08:09,480 --> 02:08:11,720
Speaker 1: what happens during the regular season. I still think we're

2706
02:08:11,720 --> 02:08:14,720
Speaker 1: going to have um depending on the matchup. If teams

2707
02:08:14,800 --> 02:08:17,080
Speaker 1: feel like they they've got an advantage, we're gonna, you know,

2708
02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:19,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to you know, kick the ball in

2709
02:08:19,040 --> 02:08:22,000
Speaker 1: the field of play and cover. But other teams are

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Speaker 1: just going to kick it through the end zone and

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Speaker 1: put the ball to twenty five and go. So there

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Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't seem to be any issues right now, and

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Speaker 1: we'll see how gooses and the regular seas. Hey, Dean,

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Speaker 1: thanks for this. We appreciate your insight. Thanks you for

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Speaker 1: spending a few minutes with us here today. You got it, guys,

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Speaker 1: Dean Blendino, former NFL Vice president of Officiating for five years,

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports college football rules analysts, college football officiating, director

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Speaker 1: of Instant Replay. We thank every joining us on the

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Speaker 1: subway Fresh sakehline, subway eat fresh. Do you agree? Seeve again?

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Speaker 1: You and I we're both kind of laser focused on

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Speaker 1: Bill's preseason games. But the kickoffs have been uneventful, both

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Speaker 1: both sides, all three teams that we've seen, So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think that's going to change when the

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Speaker 1: regular season gets you do ye do? I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're doing everything that. I think they're getting a feel

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Speaker 1: for it, and then they're gonna unveil some stuff in

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Speaker 1: the regular season at the beginning that's going to give

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Speaker 1: them either an edge or um in coverage or in

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Speaker 1: in returns. I don't think we've seen what these coaches

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Speaker 1: are really going to do yet, because I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: any good returns. And one I think there's that gap

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Speaker 1: is there. You can see it, but you know teams

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Speaker 1: are booting it out of the back of the end zone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think we have not seen what we're gonna see

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Speaker 1: in the regular season. I don't think that the special

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Speaker 1: teams coaches are looking at it and they're getting it

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Speaker 1: timed up, and they're coming up with ideas, and they're

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Speaker 1: watching how guys cover, what their tendencies are, what guys

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Speaker 1: want to do. As in a general sense, I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about every player when he comes down, what's he going

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02:09:41,480 --> 02:09:43,920
Speaker 1: to think about? And and they're going to formulate some

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Speaker 1: stuff from that. And I think when the regular season

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02:09:46,400 --> 02:09:48,160
Speaker 1: gets here, I think it might be a little bit

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02:09:48,200 --> 02:09:51,320
Speaker 1: of a splashy start. To the season. Good Landino's take

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02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:53,360
Speaker 1: on the Jarvis Landry hit kind of in line with

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02:09:53,440 --> 02:09:55,240
Speaker 1: what you were thinking, right, I do, And I hate

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02:09:55,280 --> 02:09:59,760
Speaker 1: to sause. I'm listen. I'm listening. We're One Bills Live.

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02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. What are what the players

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02:10:02,200 --> 02:10:04,520
Speaker 1: are saying? And I get the baggage that Jarvis Landry

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02:10:04,560 --> 02:10:07,240
Speaker 1: comes with. And I know too that this bordered on

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02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:13,120
Speaker 1: like an art like, let's go borderline. I'm coming after

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02:10:13,200 --> 02:10:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, don't step on the field again, or you're

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02:10:14,880 --> 02:10:16,600
Speaker 1: gonna get a shot, you know that kind of thing.

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02:10:16,920 --> 02:10:20,280
Speaker 1: But in this case, um, you kind of got to

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02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:26,080
Speaker 1: begrudgingly say okay, you got one and still look for

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02:10:26,120 --> 02:10:28,840
Speaker 1: the next time. Hey, he doesn't get it, he doesn't

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02:10:28,840 --> 02:10:32,320
Speaker 1: get it. Slide and you're looking. Listen, there's as long

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02:10:32,440 --> 02:10:36,040
Speaker 1: as one guys on the field who remembers that he's

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02:10:36,280 --> 02:10:38,320
Speaker 1: he's got a target. I mean, that's no question about it.

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02:10:38,400 --> 02:10:40,760
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, there's gone looking at somebody would

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Speaker 1: get a free shot on him. All right, Steve and

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Speaker 1: I back in a moment One Bill's Live from One

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Speaker 1: off the Buffalo bills. What have we learned today? A

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02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:14,960
Speaker 1: good show today? I like today's show a lot. John

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02:11:15,040 --> 02:11:18,120
Speaker 1: Miller joined the Spills offensive lineman starting right guard. John

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Speaker 1: Miller talked about how he lost his job last year

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02:11:20,600 --> 02:11:23,080
Speaker 1: and now has a chance at redemption, a chance to

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02:11:23,120 --> 02:11:29,160
Speaker 1: get it back again. Yeah, I definitely did. But for me,

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Speaker 1: the biggest part was focusing on just getting batter each

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Speaker 1: and every day. Unfortunately I didn't do enough to keep

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Speaker 1: my starting job in and out there and each and

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Speaker 1: every day, and so stepping into this new opportunity, putting

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Speaker 1: my best foot forward and trying to get better. When

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02:11:45,520 --> 02:11:48,560
Speaker 1: those veterans left Wood and especially Incognito, did you get

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02:11:48,600 --> 02:11:50,880
Speaker 1: a call from Coach Caste or or somebody who said, hey,

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02:11:51,320 --> 02:11:54,120
Speaker 1: you're in our plans, getting ready for OTAs, getting ready

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Speaker 1: for the spring. Oh yeah, I got a call from him.

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02:11:56,360 --> 02:12:00,480
Speaker 1: I was actually looking forward to coming back and just

2783
02:12:00,560 --> 02:12:04,320
Speaker 1: getting better and come back here and getting the new playbird,

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02:12:04,400 --> 02:12:07,800
Speaker 1: learning the terminology and stuff like that. Good to hear

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02:12:07,840 --> 02:12:09,720
Speaker 1: from John Miller. We'll talk more about that in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Also on the show today, Greg Cosell, who Steve knows

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02:12:12,560 --> 02:12:15,680
Speaker 1: pretty well. Greg Coseell was asked about the Bill's rookie

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02:12:15,760 --> 02:12:18,800
Speaker 1: quarterback Josh Allen and his performance against Cleveland. Here's what

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Speaker 1: Greg Cosell had to say, very good. And I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you why, Murph, because one of the things that we

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Speaker 1: talked about a lot when he was in the draft

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02:12:28,720 --> 02:12:31,480
Speaker 1: and then after was the kind of player he was,

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02:12:31,840 --> 02:12:33,720
Speaker 1: and that he was a big armed kid who could

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02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:36,520
Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field, wasn't really that efficient

2795
02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:39,560
Speaker 1: in terms of pace, touch, timing, and I thought he

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02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:44,800
Speaker 1: showed really good progress in that area. He showed good footwork, balance,

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02:12:45,240 --> 02:12:48,680
Speaker 1: disciplined in his quick game drop from under center, he

2798
02:12:48,800 --> 02:12:53,400
Speaker 1: looked comfortable, He threw with touch, he wasn't overstriding. I

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Speaker 1: thought that he really looked like he's being coached and

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Speaker 1: he's taking to the coaching. Pretty good grades from Rank

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Speaker 1: sal about the rookie quarterback Josh Allen and his performance

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Speaker 1: against the Cleveland Browns. I'm John Miller, our guest at

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Speaker 1: twelve thirty today, Steve, you mentioned to me during we

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Speaker 1: just heard that sound bite about what a good attitude

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02:13:10,720 --> 02:13:12,520
Speaker 1: he has, right based on what happened last year and

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02:13:12,800 --> 02:13:14,400
Speaker 1: he's been through. He owned it. He said, I didn't

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Speaker 1: do enough to keep my starting job last year, and

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Speaker 1: I wanted to come back and do everything I could

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Speaker 1: to get better every day. And you gotta tip your

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Speaker 1: hat to that's a proattitude and it's a really down

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02:13:25,680 --> 02:13:28,080
Speaker 1: to earth, solid attitude to have. I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to serve him well this season. Lorenzo Alexander's going to

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Speaker 1: join us on the show tomorrow. We'll talk more with

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Speaker 1: him about the Jarvis Landry hit. We don't want to

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Speaker 1: dwell on that, but he was pretty outspoken Sunday about it.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk a little about that, and I would imagine

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about quarterbacks tomorrow. Right How I am

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Speaker 1: beating that we haven't beaten that horse yet. We've been

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Speaker 1: living on it, I know, and living on that for months.

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Speaker 1: I hope you can join the thing is because we

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Speaker 1: can't agree on how step by even if we agree,

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Speaker 1: we disagreed. Yeah, we got out of our way to disagree.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, and I want to thank our

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Speaker 1: production assistance, George Blast, Jeff Colteneck, Thomas, Honilder, Kelly, Route

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Speaker 1: JJ reader our producer Jay Harris see tomorrow at noon

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