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Speaker 1: I don't want to be known for what I did.

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Speaker 1: I want to be known for what I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: You know? And I'm hungry. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like, I'm still hungry. Like, I'm government cheese hungry.

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Speaker 2: That's right. I'm the leader of the free lunch bunch. Summertime. Yes. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: what up, y'all?

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Speaker 3: This is Joe Crack the Don. You know who it is,

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Speaker 3: your boy Jada. You know what it is, the Joe

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Speaker 3: and Jada show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. There's

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Speaker 3: nothing you guys can do at this point. I don't

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Speaker 3: ever know.

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Speaker 4: No, it's like Disney Records right now. Right now, it's

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Speaker 4: got to be like the bobble. You ever seen the bobblehead?

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Speaker 4: They're like, who, Kurt?

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Speaker 2: Who? When you think of today's guest.

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Speaker 3: You think of 20 Grammys sitting on a mantel somewhere

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Speaker 2: Man, you got to teach me how to get the Grammy.

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Speaker 3: 20 Grammys sitting on a mantel somewhere collecting dust because

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Speaker 3: the man doesn't even slow down long enough to look

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Speaker 3: at them.

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Speaker 2: You just hit New York every time we talk. It's like,

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Speaker 2: it just grabs me.

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Speaker 3: You think of a kid out of Fort Worth, Texas

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Speaker 3: who didn't have it easy. No mother, no father in

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Speaker 3: his corner and turned all that pain into a sound.

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Speaker 3: The whole world ended up singing along to. You think

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Speaker 3: of choirs. You think of stomps. You think of a

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Speaker 3: man who took gospel out of the church basement and

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Speaker 3: put it on everybody's radio station.

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Speaker 2: Every award show.

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Speaker 3: Every corner of the culture and never once watered down

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Speaker 3: the message.

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Speaker 2: To get it there.

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Speaker 3: 30 plus years in the game and he's still finding

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Speaker 3: new mountains to climb. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise

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Speaker 3: for Kirk Franklin!

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Speaker 1: Bro, bro, listen, let me tell you something. just this

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Speaker 1: East Coast tone that both of you have had y'all

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Speaker 1: entire careers. I'm at the crib washing my little son

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Speaker 1: Joe has a video up and all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: I hear something about him saying that he rock with T.D.

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Speaker 1: Jakes and Kirk Franklin, and I almost drowned my little boy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. T.D. Jakes and Kirk Franklin. Better have my offering

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Speaker 2: plate filled with Franklins. He said that. He said that.

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Speaker 2: And I had to grab my child.

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Speaker 1: I had to grab my little son because I almost

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Speaker 1: lost him because that Joe, like, shouted out my name, right?

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Speaker 1: And then this one, this one, when the Benjamins came out,

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Speaker 2: I got to the house, and then I heard his verse.

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Speaker 2: It's like, this guy. Who is this guy? You don't miss. Never.

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Speaker 2: And then during COVID, just the....

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Speaker 1: Like, all the bodies that were left on the stage

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Speaker 2: And he did it at, like, 67 years old. He

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Speaker 2: was 60. You were, like, 67 when, like, by 72, right?

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Speaker 2: You just.

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Speaker 1: And so, you know, man, to be here with y'all, man,

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Speaker 1: it's like really legendary because I've really been a fan

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Speaker 1: has just been something that is a masterclass. Really, really, King.

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Speaker 1: So salute to you. Bros, man, thank y'all for having

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Speaker 2: You know, I had a....

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Speaker 4: I had a long drive yesterday, and the song came on,

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Speaker 4: and we definitely rocking to the old school. And the

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Speaker 4: song comes on, I want to thank you, Heavenly Father.

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Speaker 4: And I'm telling my man next to me, I said,

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Speaker 2: She talking about God, right?

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Speaker 4: And I think that's what you do best, is you

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Speaker 4: B and hip-hop they got to figure out you talking

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Speaker 2: They better. It's a lot of songs.

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Speaker 4: You've done that crossed over that everyone could appreciate, not

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Ken.

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Speaker 4: And so, you know, I got that. But what's the

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Speaker 4: other one? What's the two sisters? They got that song.

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Speaker 2: Mary, Mary. It's a God in me. Yeah. You would

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Speaker 2: never know. Like, that's like rocking. Slaps. What?

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Speaker 4: That joint slaps right there. Like, and you just hear

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Speaker 4: that's what I'd be trying to do. Like, joints that

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Speaker 4: then also, they also tell rappers, don't preach, right? They

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Speaker 4: really tell y'all that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't preach. No, no,

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Speaker 4: you can't sound like you're preaching, but you can send

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Speaker 4: a conscious message in there.

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Speaker 2: Like, Lauryn Ailes is the queen of that. Like, what's

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Speaker 4: Lauryn Hill got you partying like this. And before you

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Speaker 4: know it, she's talking at Zion. And then you're like, yo,

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Speaker 2: What you're singing.

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Speaker 1: So then what's the difference then when they say don't preach,

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Speaker 1: but you can give a conscious message? Like, what would

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Speaker 1: be the difference for somebody who doesn't know? To a

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Speaker 1: all that. He don't want to just hear you say, yo,

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Speaker 1: Psalms 84.

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Speaker 3: This and that.

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Speaker 4: But you plug it in there. Like me, I bought

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Speaker 4: KRS-One's album, Criminal Minded. He had a gun, a Uzi

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Speaker 2: I put it on the walkway.

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Speaker 4: He's like, airplanes flying, overseas people dying, politicians lying.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying. I was like, whoa, what is this guy

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Speaker 2: talking about? Yeah, yeah. That's what they mean. Got you,

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Speaker 2: got you, got you. Like, I never knew.

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Speaker 4: I never knew Uzi weighs a ton, but Public Enemy

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Speaker 4: was actually a conscious, positive record. Many years later, but

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Speaker 4: you know, we love Uzi weighs a ton, but many

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Speaker 4: years later, I listened to.

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Speaker 2: It, I was like, yo, he was preaching consciously.

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Speaker 1: So to answer your question, so then Jada, who would

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Speaker 1: you say, in your opinion, just as a lyricist, who's

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Speaker 2: Karis ones, when.

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Speaker 1: You look at Chuck, Who do you feel has done

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Speaker 3: One of the best people to always manage to slip

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Speaker 3: in jewels and things like that is Nas.

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Speaker 2: All of his songs got some jewels. Positivity, jewels.

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Speaker 6: You might think it's about one thing, but if you

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Speaker 6: A nice history lesson. We all learned some.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Also the greatest storyteller of all time to me besides

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Speaker 4: Biggie Smalls.

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Speaker 2: You know, Biggie is probably the best storyteller, but Slick Rick.

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Speaker 2: Slick Rick.

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Speaker 4: Slick Rick was always positive. Hey, I used to be

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Speaker 4: on the corner hustling, playing. Hey, young boy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Hey, young. And you know, you're

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Speaker 1: Like I said, like, even though I was real talk,

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Speaker 1: like even though I was in church, I was raised

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Speaker 1: I mean, we were from the mud, too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was adopted. older lady, you know, food stamps, government cheese.

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Speaker 1: You know, we used to recycle newspapers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Newspapers and cans just to pay for my piano lessons.

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Speaker 2: And we, you know, kind of drink the little pitchers

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Speaker 1: And so when hip hop hit the South, in like

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Speaker 2: What was they saying? What was the grown folks saying?

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Speaker 2: Didn't care because the girls liked it. Didn't care.

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Speaker 1: Didn't care because the girls liked it. And as long

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Speaker 1: I really wanted to hear what was happening. You know,

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Speaker 1: It's like, it's, you know, really fitting that the song

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: So what, you guys were experiencing was really, it was

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Speaker 4: You know, the first, Texas that rung my bell, you know,

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Speaker 4: rest in peace, my best friend, Tone Montana. Once again,

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Speaker 4: I'm outside, I'm on the corner, Kirk, up to no good.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm hustling. And my brother Tone, he had

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Speaker 4: this red Wrangler truck with just... We take the top off,

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Speaker 2: Yo, yo, yo.

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Speaker 4: And I'm thinking this may be beef or something, but

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Speaker 4: the way I see the excitement, I'm like, yo, Tone,

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Speaker 4: what's up?

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Speaker 2: He said, you got to hear this. You got to.

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Speaker 4: I was like, yo, but what's up, Tone? Because he

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Speaker 4: didn't even use the hustle in there. He came just

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Speaker 4: to play me this song. He pressed play, and that's it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Ghetto Boys. What? Ghetto Boys. A

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Speaker 2: night of kids sleep. Ghetto Boys. We start dancing around

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Speaker 2: the truck like, yo, we start, we lose it.

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Speaker 1: Like, for me, Scarface was the only person that I

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Speaker 1: could put in y'all's community at that time and feel

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Speaker 1: like that he could stand.

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Speaker 2: He was.

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Speaker 1: Like, toe to toe with y'all. Like, Scarface was that guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he still is. He's the Scarface that guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He's there. He's a legendary, he's a superhero.

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Speaker 4: Might be a stripper. Go to church on Sunday. Church

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Speaker 4: What's a biblical illiteracy? Is that like a preacher preaching,

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Speaker 1: And the challenge is in America, because freedom of religion,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but. Talk to me. I would look at it different.

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Speaker 1: my heart and my life and my mind, you'd be like, dang,

437
00:22:28,170 --> 00:22:28,850
Speaker 1: Kurt got that.

438
00:22:29,130 --> 00:22:30,129
Speaker 2: Dang, Kurt. Yes.

439
00:22:30,150 --> 00:22:30,220
Speaker 5: Yes.

440
00:22:30,609 --> 00:22:32,670
Speaker 1: And I got to deal with God on this stuff

441
00:22:32,930 --> 00:22:35,620
Speaker 1: every day. Stuff that I know in me he don't like.

442
00:22:35,650 --> 00:22:36,300
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if.

443
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 4: You so influence you like you are, I think there's

444
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,140
Speaker 4: a big pressure in walking the right path.

445
00:22:45,020 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 2: There's got to be. He's a human.

446
00:22:46,780 --> 00:22:47,740
Speaker 5: He's a normal human.

447
00:22:47,780 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: He's a human being. Yes. And some people look at

448
00:22:51,619 --> 00:22:54,140
Speaker 2: him like he's nothing. Man, a man can't do nothing.

449
00:22:54,540 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 4: People says, yo, man, I wish I had the money.

450
00:22:56,980 --> 00:23:00,650
Speaker 4: I'm glad I don't have the fame. Because Fat Joe

451
00:23:00,670 --> 00:23:03,590
Speaker 4: can't go to a supermarket. Fat Joe go and it

452
00:23:03,609 --> 00:23:06,030
Speaker 4: turned into a photo shoot. I love everybody.

453
00:23:06,109 --> 00:23:09,129
Speaker 2: This, this, this, this. I go to a restaurant. Everybody's looking.

454
00:23:09,170 --> 00:23:11,820
Speaker 2: This and this and that. They watching you.

455
00:23:13,070 --> 00:23:16,510
Speaker 4: Every step you walk, because they know you're the church guy.

456
00:23:16,550 --> 00:23:18,270
Speaker 3: Whether they're in church or not, they know Kirk. I'm

457
00:23:18,290 --> 00:23:21,970
Speaker 3: going to the supermarket after this show is over. Me.

458
00:23:22,570 --> 00:23:28,460
Speaker 2: Kidding? I love it. I love it. I love it.

459
00:23:28,690 --> 00:23:32,060
Speaker 2: This is an amazing show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The biggest

460
00:23:32,130 --> 00:23:38,430
Speaker 2: in the game. You know what I've learned?

461
00:23:38,609 --> 00:23:41,689
Speaker 4: The things that really matter, you can't rush them.

462
00:23:42,130 --> 00:23:42,530
Speaker 2: Facts.

463
00:23:43,090 --> 00:23:46,130
Speaker 3: You can't rush the sauce, you can't rush the music,

464
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: you can't rush relationships, and you definitely can't rush great tequila.

465
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,660
Speaker 2: That's why 1800 Tequila stands out. The name goes all

466
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,300
Speaker 2: the way back to the 1800s, when the Beckman family

467
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:03,220
Speaker 2: started making tequila. And that patience, that attention to the craft,

468
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,350
Speaker 2: has been passed down through more than 11 generations. That's legacy.

469
00:24:08,730 --> 00:24:11,930
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just got to let something cook. Juan Beckman

470
00:24:11,970 --> 00:24:16,690
Speaker 3: Vidal aged 1,800 aneo longer than he even had to

471
00:24:16,810 --> 00:24:18,330
Speaker 3: because he knew it wasn't ready yet.

472
00:24:18,510 --> 00:24:19,230
Speaker 2: I respect that.

473
00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:21,909
Speaker 4: Don't put it out just because you can put it out.

474
00:24:22,130 --> 00:24:24,850
Speaker 4: Put it out when it's right. That applies to a record,

475
00:24:24,890 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 4: a conversation, a move, a making, and clearly a bottle

476
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,020
Speaker 4: of tequila. Once you get it right, you share it

477
00:24:32,060 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 4: with your people. That's always been part of the story.

478
00:24:34,940 --> 00:24:38,619
Speaker 3: Good tequila, good conversation, and the people around you really

479
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,700
Speaker 3: appreciate both.

480
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: Passion, hard work, honesty.

481
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 4: Those words are written on every bottle of 1800. And honestly,

482
00:24:47,420 --> 00:24:50,209
Speaker 4: that's the foundation for anything built to last.

483
00:24:50,450 --> 00:24:51,210
Speaker 2: So take your.

484
00:24:51,109 --> 00:24:53,810
Speaker 3: Time with what you're creating, and when the moment is right,

485
00:24:53,910 --> 00:24:58,210
Speaker 3: share it with your people. 1800 tequila. Good stuff takes time.

486
00:24:58,750 --> 00:25:01,650
Speaker 3: And the best stuff's meant to be shared with your people.

487
00:25:05,310 --> 00:25:07,970
Speaker 1: I have a question for both of y'all. Y'all have

488
00:25:08,050 --> 00:25:13,170
Speaker 1: big stars come through. Everybody pulls up. So on everything,

489
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:16,710
Speaker 1: and you ain't even got a cap, don't be trying.

490
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:18,060
Speaker 2: To be all... I don't cap, man.

491
00:25:18,780 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: What was it about your boy that y'all felt like

492
00:25:22,580 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 1: that this would be a cool marriage for me to

493
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,180
Speaker 1: pull up and chill with y'all?

494
00:25:27,220 --> 00:25:27,740
Speaker 2: What was it?

495
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 1: When it even came up, how did you know that

496
00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:32,180
Speaker 1: it would fit?

497
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,580
Speaker 4: First of all, you're a big deal in our community.

498
00:25:35,180 --> 00:25:37,780
Speaker 4: We love you, whether we're not in church every day.

499
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,690
Speaker 4: I fear God to the most, okay? And I understand God.

500
00:25:42,990 --> 00:25:45,369
Speaker 4: And I don't understand people when they doubt God.

501
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:49,010
Speaker 2: I've seen them too many times. Facts.

502
00:25:49,290 --> 00:25:53,179
Speaker 4: Like, I've been in situations where I felt them present. Like, present.

503
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 4: You know what present is?

504
00:25:54,460 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 2: Yes, sir. Like, God, I know you're here. Facts. Like, God,

505
00:25:57,460 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 2: you're here. Like, I know.

506
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:04,020
Speaker 4: I'm not delusional. He's proven it to me. So many, many,

507
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 4: many times. So I never doubt. My biggest fear is

508
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:13,180
Speaker 4: the plane when the joint going like this. Like, I God, man,

509
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,859
Speaker 4: you gave me a great life. Can I make it

510
00:26:14,940 --> 00:26:18,260
Speaker 4: out of this one? As he got a billboard on

511
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 4: Times Square, I got to make it as he's joined.

512
00:26:22,340 --> 00:26:26,180
Speaker 2: You know, so, but I never questioned him. Right.

513
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 4: And so we love you for that. You're always spreading

514
00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:33,500
Speaker 4: positive message. You're a musical icon. You got 20 Grammys.

515
00:26:33,540 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out, do I got to start

516
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,239
Speaker 4: doing church music? Because I ain't got one. I've been

517
00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:42,379
Speaker 4: trying to get a Grammy. Like, I'm not hustling everybody.

518
00:26:42,460 --> 00:26:47,330
Speaker 4: Jimmy Jam, Babyface. I'll get a Grammy. They got 34 Grammys.

519
00:26:47,380 --> 00:26:50,190
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, how do you... You know, so, you know,

520
00:26:50,270 --> 00:26:52,190
Speaker 4: we respect you above all.

521
00:26:52,290 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: And this show....

522
00:26:55,170 --> 00:26:59,260
Speaker 4: It's a grown man show. You know, we hip hop.

523
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,460
Speaker 4: Sometimes I go crazy. But at the end of the day,

524
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,940
Speaker 4: we want to enlighten. They watching in every barbershop. They

525
00:27:05,980 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 4: watching in every hood. They watching in South Central L.A.

526
00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:10,340
Speaker 4: They watching in the South Bronx.

527
00:27:10,619 --> 00:27:13,500
Speaker 2: Yeah. This show is for everybody. Love it.

528
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:19,210
Speaker 4: And even people who ain't really necessary black or Latino

529
00:27:19,230 --> 00:27:21,730
Speaker 4: that's watching on Netflix and maybe they can come in

530
00:27:21,770 --> 00:27:24,090
Speaker 4: here and they can see some positivity.

531
00:27:24,130 --> 00:27:27,330
Speaker 2: We have Montel Jordan on, like him and his wife.

532
00:27:27,410 --> 00:27:30,230
Speaker 2: I love him. He for real, for real. Oh, no, no.

533
00:27:30,250 --> 00:27:31,010
Speaker 2: I love him to death.

534
00:27:31,070 --> 00:27:34,030
Speaker 4: But I asked him a question, right, that I thought

535
00:27:34,050 --> 00:27:36,370
Speaker 4: was like, ew, like if you was giving out awards

536
00:27:36,410 --> 00:27:37,030
Speaker 4: for questions.

537
00:27:37,130 --> 00:27:39,690
Speaker 2: I said, listen... No, no, I'm telling you the truth.

538
00:27:39,730 --> 00:27:42,109
Speaker 2: What do you want me to do? I'm telling you.

539
00:27:42,150 --> 00:27:45,090
Speaker 2: I thought it was ill. I play around so much,

540
00:27:45,109 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: they're not taking me serious, right? So I go and

541
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,260
Speaker 2: I say, last time I saw you, because I love

542
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,100
Speaker 2: Montel Joy. Yeah.

543
00:27:54,380 --> 00:27:57,500
Speaker 4: I'm a huge, huge fan of him. I feel like

544
00:27:58,180 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: great guy. I know he's church. And so I go,

545
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,180
Speaker 4: you know, last time I saw you, we had a

546
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,379
Speaker 4: show together and you had just beat cancer.

547
00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:08,020
Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.

548
00:28:08,830 --> 00:28:11,570
Speaker 2: And then next thing I know, I'm looking at ball alert,

549
00:28:11,670 --> 00:28:12,710
Speaker 2: shade room, and.

550
00:28:13,230 --> 00:28:17,170
Speaker 4: You caught cancer again. I said, what was your conversation

551
00:28:17,250 --> 00:28:18,250
Speaker 4: with God?

552
00:28:18,570 --> 00:28:23,109
Speaker 2: Great question. See what I'm saying, Kurt? You see, you

553
00:28:23,130 --> 00:28:26,810
Speaker 2: can throw your glasses on for this one, bro. No, Greg,

554
00:28:26,869 --> 00:28:31,350
Speaker 2: what's your conversation with God? Did he saw you in this?

555
00:28:31,950 --> 00:28:35,929
Speaker 4: And then, you know, he just answered it, but I

556
00:28:35,970 --> 00:28:37,690
Speaker 4: thought that was, you know, and.

557
00:28:39,250 --> 00:28:41,570
Speaker 4: It was incredible. You know what I'm saying? And so

558
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:44,190
Speaker 4: that's how... So we got everything.

559
00:28:44,370 --> 00:28:48,100
Speaker 2: We bring everybody from all walks of life so that

560
00:28:48,170 --> 00:28:52,740
Speaker 2: everybody can get a little... And it's always positivity. Love that.

561
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:53,780
Speaker 2: This is probably.

562
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 4: I don't want to say it to them because they

563
00:28:55,620 --> 00:28:58,740
Speaker 4: think we're crazy and all. Well, they think I'm crazy, right?

564
00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:01,660
Speaker 4: But we go viral all the time. But at the

565
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 4: end of the day, this is a positive show. And

566
00:29:04,420 --> 00:29:08,050
Speaker 4: we always end this positive. This ain't a shop, we

567
00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:11,250
Speaker 4: ain't coming in. So was you with the lady, the deacons?

568
00:29:11,350 --> 00:29:13,950
Speaker 2: What? We don't play. That's not going down here.

569
00:29:13,990 --> 00:29:17,150
Speaker 4: We're going to talk positive, and we're still going to

570
00:29:17,170 --> 00:29:18,230
Speaker 4: get the message out there.

571
00:29:18,250 --> 00:29:19,969
Speaker 2: We're going to laugh. We're going to have fun. The

572
00:29:20,010 --> 00:29:21,370
Speaker 2: people are going to be tuned in.

573
00:29:21,770 --> 00:29:25,150
Speaker 1: You remember when you were on tour, and this last

574
00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:27,770
Speaker 1: big reunion tour, and y'all came through Dallas? I don't

575
00:29:27,790 --> 00:29:29,710
Speaker 1: know if you remember this, but you said to me,

576
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:33,110
Speaker 1: you was like, yo, man, I got some records, and

577
00:29:33,150 --> 00:29:35,050
Speaker 1: I want to do something. I don't know if you

578
00:29:35,070 --> 00:29:36,630
Speaker 1: remember saying that to me. You remember saying that? I

579
00:29:36,750 --> 00:29:37,530
Speaker 1: definitely do.

580
00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: Bro, Jada said it. You want to do it? You're

581
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,190
Speaker 2: going to do it?

582
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,170
Speaker 3: Don't tell me that. Hit me one out the park, man.

583
00:29:47,270 --> 00:29:50,110
Speaker 3: I'm in the church every Sunday. So now let me

584
00:29:50,150 --> 00:29:54,870
Speaker 3: ask you a question. What has been your journey, your

585
00:29:54,910 --> 00:29:55,750
Speaker 3: own personal journey?

586
00:29:55,770 --> 00:30:00,150
Speaker 1: Like I'm hearing from him, but what's been your positive

587
00:30:00,220 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: and negative experience just as a black man in America

588
00:30:04,020 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: when it comes to faith?

589
00:30:06,420 --> 00:30:09,900
Speaker 3: I think my family, my mom's, my rest in peace

590
00:30:09,980 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: and my grandmother, both of them.

591
00:30:12,860 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: They had me, they, they was dipping me in early. Like,

592
00:30:17,330 --> 00:30:20,910
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So I always had, always

593
00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:22,630
Speaker 2: had ties and connections.

594
00:30:23,330 --> 00:30:26,550
Speaker 6: Even to this day, my mom's probably called me three,

595
00:30:26,650 --> 00:30:30,630
Speaker 6: four times a week. Pray, pray for me, pray with me,

596
00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:34,750
Speaker 6: send me a prayer to the phone. She always made

597
00:30:34,770 --> 00:30:39,070
Speaker 6: sure I was connected to I done bought Bibles and

598
00:30:39,770 --> 00:30:43,950
Speaker 6: did stuff for the church and been baptized and do

599
00:30:44,370 --> 00:30:49,060
Speaker 6: festivals and send the watermelon trucks and juice. So I'm always,

600
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Speaker 6: I gotta, I'm always been reminded no matter which way

601
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,180
Speaker 6: I'm going, left or right, my mind is always there

602
00:30:58,220 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 6: to say, you know, you gotta put first, you know,

603
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:04,700
Speaker 6: the Lord is saving. So don't get too, don't think,

604
00:31:05,380 --> 00:31:07,850
Speaker 6: I don't care how much money's coming, how much fame.

605
00:31:07,870 --> 00:31:10,270
Speaker 6: I don't care about verses. I don't care about none

606
00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:12,990
Speaker 6: of that. Make sure you know what's going on with

607
00:31:13,010 --> 00:31:17,130
Speaker 6: your faith before you think you Jason.

608
00:31:17,490 --> 00:31:17,790
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

609
00:31:18,010 --> 00:31:20,890
Speaker 6: Put that Jadakiss stuff to the side and know who

610
00:31:20,910 --> 00:31:22,310
Speaker 6: you are, know what's going on.

611
00:31:22,350 --> 00:31:25,550
Speaker 2: That's dope. So I was always able to be. grounded

612
00:31:25,810 --> 00:31:26,270
Speaker 2: like that.

613
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:31,510
Speaker 6: I'm a single child always, so I always got double the,

614
00:31:32,020 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? I was the only child,

615
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 6: so I was, I caught it from, I was catching action.

616
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,100
Speaker 4: Do you two, both of you, do you two see,

617
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 4: I want to answer that question too. Let's go, let's go.

618
00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:51,940
Speaker 4: Jesus is Lord. There's nobody bigger than God, right? And

619
00:31:52,020 --> 00:31:57,700
Speaker 4: I super understand that. And many years ago, when I

620
00:31:57,740 --> 00:32:00,620
Speaker 4: caught my first record deal, I rushed home to tell

621
00:32:00,660 --> 00:32:03,460
Speaker 4: my mother that I got signed, that I got a

622
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 4: record deal, that I'm going to leave the streets. I'm

623
00:32:06,020 --> 00:32:07,900
Speaker 4: going to be a rapper. And when I get there,

624
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 4: she looks sad. And I'm like, what's wrong? So she

625
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,050
Speaker 4: had got diagnosed with cancer that day.

626
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,540
Speaker 2: Now, here I am.

627
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:22,180
Speaker 4: Happiest moment of my life, maybe like 18, 19, something

628
00:32:22,220 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 4: like that. And so my mom looks at me. She

629
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 4: did something you should never do to your child. If

630
00:32:29,010 --> 00:32:31,250
Speaker 4: you're ever sick or anything like that, she looked at me.

631
00:32:31,290 --> 00:32:34,350
Speaker 4: She said, Joe, I don't want to die. That was

632
00:32:34,430 --> 00:32:37,150
Speaker 4: like getting hit with Achilles' sword.

633
00:32:37,270 --> 00:32:39,870
Speaker 2: Like I was just like, oh, my God, right? I

634
00:32:40,070 --> 00:32:41,910
Speaker 2: don't want you to die. I'm only 18, right?

635
00:32:43,650 --> 00:32:47,470
Speaker 4: So we go to the doctor, and the doctor says

636
00:32:47,610 --> 00:32:52,930
Speaker 4: to me, if this was my mother, I would send

637
00:32:52,970 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 4: her home. Maybe she got three months, six months, but

638
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 4: I would enjoy every.

639
00:32:58,300 --> 00:33:02,100
Speaker 2: Day with my mother, right? And she's there, right? So

640
00:33:02,540 --> 00:33:06,420
Speaker 2: I'm like, for real? What? He says, listen, your mom's

641
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,890
Speaker 2: so weak. It's so... He said, man, she got like

642
00:33:09,930 --> 00:33:11,130
Speaker 2: a 1% chance.

643
00:33:11,330 --> 00:33:14,730
Speaker 4: And my mom's got up and said, you heard him, Joey?

644
00:33:14,770 --> 00:33:16,230
Speaker 2: We got 1%.

645
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:19,229
Speaker 4: We got a chance, Joey. We got a chance. We

646
00:33:19,290 --> 00:33:24,270
Speaker 4: start jumping up, smiling. Yo, we got one chance. She

647
00:33:24,330 --> 00:33:27,790
Speaker 4: did the operation. She couldn't speak no more. She had

648
00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:30,790
Speaker 4: no more voice, but she lived 30 years after that.

649
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:31,350
Speaker 3: Wow.

650
00:33:31,770 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 4: And did so much for me. Helped me raise baby Joey, everything,

651
00:33:35,340 --> 00:33:40,260
Speaker 4: and was so instrumental in my life. And so, you know,

652
00:33:40,340 --> 00:33:43,900
Speaker 4: from that moment, I really knew God was, you know

653
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 4: what I'm saying?

654
00:33:45,260 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: And I didn't do so much messed up stuff, Kirk,

655
00:33:48,220 --> 00:33:50,220
Speaker 2: that I should have been gone. I should have been

656
00:33:50,460 --> 00:33:57,670
Speaker 2: out of here. The bullet went like this. Bullet came

657
00:33:57,730 --> 00:34:03,310
Speaker 2: and went like this. That's what I knew. There is

658
00:34:03,390 --> 00:34:05,890
Speaker 2: a God. I got a two-part question for you.

659
00:34:05,910 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 3: After all these years, what does this next chapter look like?

660
00:34:11,260 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: And how's it been being partners and doing business with Uptown?

661
00:34:15,660 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: I know Uptown. Isn't that something? Legendary label. Isn't that something?

662
00:34:20,219 --> 00:34:24,750
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, for them to see something in

663
00:34:25,390 --> 00:34:27,989
Speaker 1: me that I can contribute to their legacy.

664
00:34:28,670 --> 00:34:29,150
Speaker 2: You know, I.

665
00:34:31,110 --> 00:34:34,890
Speaker 1: Mean, I was honored, humbled, and just led to be

666
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:39,450
Speaker 1: able to bring something to them that I feel or

667
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:41,730
Speaker 1: that I felt or that I hoped would be a

668
00:34:43,350 --> 00:34:46,529
Speaker 1: marriage that they could be very proud of. And so

669
00:34:47,090 --> 00:34:50,189
Speaker 1: I'm not one king to want to rest on my

670
00:34:50,270 --> 00:34:54,669
Speaker 1: past laurels, you know, I don't want to be known

671
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:57,250
Speaker 1: for what I did. I want to be known for

672
00:34:57,270 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. And I'm hungry.

673
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,020
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

674
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,900
Speaker 1: Like I'm still hungry. Like I'm government cheese hungry.

675
00:35:06,060 --> 00:35:10,660
Speaker 2: That's right. I'm the leader of the free lunch bunch. Summertime.

676
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 5: Yes.

677
00:35:11,940 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: I got free lunch, free lunch. I got an anthem.

678
00:35:14,260 --> 00:35:16,700
Speaker 2: Free lunch, free lunch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm the

679
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: leader of the free lunch bunch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no.

680
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:20,660
Speaker 2: On everything.

681
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: And that type of energy is, you know, and of

682
00:35:24,540 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: course a lot of it, you know, is from my

683
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,299
Speaker 1: own abandonment issues. You know what I'm saying? You know,

684
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,620
Speaker 1: mama didn't want you, daddy don't want you. So, you know,

685
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: you know, every day you live in like, you know,

686
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,020
Speaker 1: you running like you chasing ghosts. You know what I'm saying?

687
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:38,510
Speaker 1: Like you trying to, trying to protect that little young boy.

688
00:35:38,530 --> 00:35:38,620
Speaker 2: Right.

689
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know, I

690
00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:43,529
Speaker 1: don't want to starve again. So it's like, it's like, I'm,

691
00:35:43,770 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, every album is my first album because I

692
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:46,969
Speaker 1: don't want to starve again.

693
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:48,100
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?

694
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: You know, it's, it's, it's, it's, I've stayed at the,

695
00:35:51,860 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: you know, rat hotels and I've stayed at the five star.

696
00:35:54,180 --> 00:35:55,980
Speaker 1: I don't want to go back to the rat hotel.

697
00:35:56,020 --> 00:35:57,500
Speaker 2: Nah, we don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

698
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 4: You know, last week, man, God taught me a lesson.

699
00:36:00,739 --> 00:36:04,190
Speaker 4: It's a little, he teaches me all the time. He

700
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:06,610
Speaker 4: lets me know I'm, yo, stay humble.

701
00:36:06,910 --> 00:36:10,770
Speaker 2: Thanks. I do a show, sold down St.

702
00:36:10,850 --> 00:36:11,210
Speaker 5: Louis.

703
00:36:12,460 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 2: I get on a plane rushing back here to go

704
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: to the Jay-Z viewing of his documentary, Big Deal. And

705
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: the plane gets canceled like four times. We on it.

706
00:36:23,450 --> 00:36:26,569
Speaker 4: We take off. The ACA work, they come back. We

707
00:36:26,590 --> 00:36:29,330
Speaker 4: take off again. Something else came on. This four times.

708
00:36:29,370 --> 00:36:32,670
Speaker 4: So I asked my people, yo, get me on the

709
00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:36,870
Speaker 4: next flight. The only flight that gets me in is coach. Now,

710
00:36:37,610 --> 00:36:40,170
Speaker 4: I have a prayer. I did it this morning when

711
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:44,580
Speaker 4: I woke up. Every single day, I pray to God, please, God,

712
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:51,029
Speaker 4: I need to be first class. I can't be coach.

713
00:36:51,050 --> 00:36:52,750
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no.

714
00:36:53,469 --> 00:36:54,210
Speaker 6: I'm humble.

715
00:36:54,290 --> 00:36:56,630
Speaker 4: I give back. I do anything you want.

716
00:36:56,710 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: I smile. I do whatever you want.

717
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,209
Speaker 4: I don't want to be coach. I went one time

718
00:37:02,230 --> 00:37:04,549
Speaker 4: to coach to a friend's wedding, and I sat next to.

719
00:37:04,510 --> 00:37:08,330
Speaker 2: The Beverly Hillbillies, and these kids was climbing over my shoulder,

720
00:37:08,370 --> 00:37:11,290
Speaker 2: throwing potato chips in my face. I can't do it.

721
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:17,740
Speaker 2: But this time, I accepted, and I'm about to go coach.

722
00:37:17,820 --> 00:37:19,460
Speaker 2: It's the only way to get back, right?

723
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 4: And I would have been in big trouble around this

724
00:37:21,460 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 4: building if I didn't make it to that Jay-Z thing, right?

725
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,899
Speaker 2: So I go. So I'm walking past the first class.

726
00:37:27,940 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: I look. I said, oh, my God. You know how

727
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:30,859
Speaker 2: they say.

728
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,620
Speaker 4: I know you don't know, but maybe you saw it

729
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,459
Speaker 4: in the movie how they say the girls be having

730
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 4: to walk ashamed the next day. They come up out

731
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,950
Speaker 4: the hotel with yesterday's club. I'm walking through that first class.

732
00:37:41,350 --> 00:37:44,350
Speaker 4: Busta Rhymes is sitting there. I said, oh, my God.

733
00:37:44,410 --> 00:37:47,510
Speaker 4: The one time I'm a stick. Coach in my life.

734
00:37:47,590 --> 00:37:49,910
Speaker 4: Busta Rhymes. Yo, Busta.

735
00:37:49,969 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: Yo, Peace King.

736
00:37:50,989 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 4: So I'm walking. I'm about to leave the first class.

737
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,730
Speaker 4: And this DJ gets up.

738
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,220
Speaker 2: Scratch you see your joe what's up i said long

739
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:05,140
Speaker 2: story long story missed the flight four times i gotta

740
00:38:05,180 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: get back to say he said oh no you can't

741
00:38:07,660 --> 00:38:08,779
Speaker 2: sit back there.

742
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,219
Speaker 4: I said no he said you gotta take my seat

743
00:38:13,570 --> 00:38:17,370
Speaker 4: well the donkey is sitting in the back well and

744
00:38:17,469 --> 00:38:18,170
Speaker 4: i ain't even.

745
00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:23,980
Speaker 2: Fight him I don't want to owe nobody this type

746
00:38:24,060 --> 00:38:28,540
Speaker 2: of favor. I said, nah, ain't good. You right, Scratch.

747
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,489
Speaker 4: Y'all, let me sit down in that chair. Man, and

748
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:36,210
Speaker 4: God taught me just that. In that time frame right there,

749
00:38:36,250 --> 00:38:37,550
Speaker 4: he said, all right, you got to go coach.

750
00:38:37,590 --> 00:38:39,549
Speaker 2: Don't worry. I walk up in there. I'm like, oh,

751
00:38:39,570 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: my God. As I'm going there, give me the C.

752
00:38:42,090 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: I'm still first class.

753
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 4: So I had to know, yo, no matter who you

754
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,780
Speaker 4: think you are, you got to know that God runs

755
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 4: this show.

756
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 2: Let me jump in.

757
00:38:51,420 --> 00:38:54,509
Speaker 1: Also, though, is that what I can also add to

758
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:59,250
Speaker 1: that is that there are times that God divinely orchestrates

759
00:38:59,750 --> 00:39:00,630
Speaker 1: the coach moment.

760
00:39:02,930 --> 00:39:04,500
Speaker 2: No, but watch this though. Watch this though.

761
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: Is that whether it's the rat hotel or, or, or, or,

762
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,660
Speaker 1: or coach, it is also necessary.

763
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: Not in that situation. I'm talking in general.

764
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,940
Speaker 1: That a lot of times, because we've been blessed with

765
00:39:16,980 --> 00:39:19,819
Speaker 1: so much, a lot of times it is important to

766
00:39:19,890 --> 00:39:23,969
Speaker 1: sometimes touch that backseat. It's important sometimes to be able

767
00:39:24,030 --> 00:39:27,580
Speaker 1: to get that in a horrible room service It's because

768
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,540
Speaker 1: it reminds you that you can have it, but not

769
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,250
Speaker 1: need it. You see what I'm saying? The problem is

770
00:39:35,290 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: when we need it. There's nothing wrong with having it,

771
00:39:38,570 --> 00:39:41,450
Speaker 1: but the challenge is when we need it. It's because, see,

772
00:39:42,250 --> 00:39:46,569
Speaker 1: our identity is not in what we do. Our identity

773
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,190
Speaker 1: is in who we are. See, what we are and

774
00:39:49,210 --> 00:39:51,650
Speaker 1: what we do are two totally different things. Somebody may

775
00:39:51,730 --> 00:39:53,450
Speaker 1: ask you who was Whitney Houston. You may say she's

776
00:39:53,489 --> 00:39:55,770
Speaker 1: a singer. No, that's what she did. That's not who

777
00:39:55,830 --> 00:39:59,310
Speaker 1: she was. And the problem is we identify people by

778
00:39:59,370 --> 00:40:02,290
Speaker 1: what they do. So what happens is if your identity

779
00:40:02,310 --> 00:40:04,890
Speaker 1: is always what you do, you always become a human

780
00:40:04,969 --> 00:40:09,109
Speaker 1: doing and never a human being. So what you got

781
00:40:09,130 --> 00:40:11,870
Speaker 1: to do sometimes, you got to touch that backseat sometimes

782
00:40:12,690 --> 00:40:15,860
Speaker 1: so you can be reminded that if God, if life,

783
00:40:15,950 --> 00:40:18,940
Speaker 1: if my career takes all of this away, I'm still

784
00:40:19,260 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: who I am. And my value ain't in these sneaks,

785
00:40:23,980 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: in this whoop-a-whoop, whatever it is. My value is because

786
00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: God said I'm a king. God said I'm a queen.

787
00:40:30,060 --> 00:40:32,830
Speaker 1: Even if I'm in the back, I'm still a king.

788
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:35,810
Speaker 1: And what that does, it teaches other people in the

789
00:40:35,850 --> 00:40:37,790
Speaker 1: back but they Kings too.

790
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:43,770
Speaker 4: Ooh, I'm sorry. I ain't give him that opportunity. I

791
00:40:43,810 --> 00:40:46,210
Speaker 4: might have to volunteer coach in the future.

792
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:48,810
Speaker 2: Yeah. I might have to go in. That's the plan.

793
00:40:48,830 --> 00:40:50,930
Speaker 2: Next flight. You're going to say coach, right? You can

794
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:51,529
Speaker 2: touch it back a little.

795
00:40:55,790 --> 00:40:59,330
Speaker 4: Like my like my little diet coke man no peanuts

796
00:40:59,570 --> 00:41:00,190
Speaker 4: you know.

797
00:41:00,590 --> 00:41:03,660
Speaker 2: I love it coach i love it.

798
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:07,980
Speaker 4: No this fancy girl back here she ain't hitting no coach.

799
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:10,540
Speaker 2: I love it shout out daniel matina but you gotta

800
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: know and then your your your new boss lady from

801
00:41:14,180 --> 00:41:16,980
Speaker 2: uh yeah she's so peaceful You know, man? And brilliant.

802
00:41:17,260 --> 00:41:19,230
Speaker 2: I thought she was the leader of the choir when

803
00:41:19,290 --> 00:41:21,830
Speaker 2: I walked in. Man, we got the leader of the

804
00:41:21,890 --> 00:41:25,140
Speaker 2: choir over here. How you doing, man? It's so peaceful.

805
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,500
Speaker 2: We got some new music. We got a new singer.

806
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

807
00:41:28,850 --> 00:41:32,729
Speaker 2: I heard it's fire. Hold on. I didn't hear it,

808
00:41:32,770 --> 00:41:35,290
Speaker 2: but I heard it's fire.

809
00:41:35,989 --> 00:41:40,140
Speaker 1: So how do y'all feel about these worlds when gospel

810
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: and hip-hop come together?

811
00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: I love it. That's all we're talking about. Do you

812
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:44,900
Speaker 2: love it?

813
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 4: Gospel and hip-hop coming together right now. But it still

814
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 4: got to slap though, right? Your problem would be if

815
00:41:53,219 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 4: it didn't slap.

816
00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:54,300
Speaker 2: Facts.

817
00:41:55,090 --> 00:41:58,469
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm about to play a record. And it

818
00:41:58,530 --> 00:41:59,469
Speaker 1: features Glorilla.

819
00:42:00,150 --> 00:42:01,969
Speaker 2: That's right. That's my girl.

820
00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:05,020
Speaker 1: And I'm going to be looking at y'all because I

821
00:42:05,060 --> 00:42:06,460
Speaker 1: know that y'all are.

822
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:16,530
Speaker 2: The elite slapologists. Okay? Y'all are slapologists. I love that. Slapologists. Okay?

823
00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:18,850
Speaker 1: And I'm going to be looking at your face because,

824
00:42:18,969 --> 00:42:22,730
Speaker 1: and I need to know in real time, does this past.

825
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:30,950
Speaker 2: your history of flapology. Okay. Let's do it, man. Oh,

826
00:42:30,969 --> 00:42:36,370
Speaker 2: you got to put that loud. Come on. Hold on.

827
00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:37,050
Speaker 2: Pull that back.

828
00:42:37,110 --> 00:42:37,850
Speaker 3: Break that.

829
00:42:40,820 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: Oh, it's already on it.

830
00:42:45,600 --> 00:43:06,350
Speaker 5: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. One thing I know, we gon' be. We gon'

831
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:08,930
Speaker 5: be fine this time. Can't do it by this time.

832
00:43:08,969 --> 00:43:11,549
Speaker 5: Thought I was gonna lose my mind. Devil's a lie.

833
00:43:11,570 --> 00:43:14,130
Speaker 5: I think that's right this time. We gon' be. OK.

834
00:43:14,170 --> 00:43:14,569
Speaker 2: OK, OK.

835
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:17,610
Speaker 5: Time's been up for me. Angels watching me.

836
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:17,859
Speaker 2: Yeah.

837
00:43:17,890 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 5: Protect me when I'm falling. OK. No, it's OK. The

838
00:43:21,620 --> 00:43:22,820
Speaker 5: plans you have for me.

839
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:23,100
Speaker 2: Yeah.

840
00:43:23,340 --> 00:43:25,700
Speaker 5: Better than I can see. If you name me, keep

841
00:43:25,780 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 5: on calling. I know, I know that this will come

842
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 5: and go. It come and go.

843
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:33,140
Speaker 6: That's hard.

844
00:43:33,710 --> 00:43:34,390
Speaker 2: That's hard.

845
00:43:36,010 --> 00:43:38,930
Speaker 5: Hallelujah, look at us now. We gon' be fine this time.

846
00:43:38,989 --> 00:43:40,230
Speaker 5: We still got this time.

847
00:43:40,290 --> 00:43:41,989
Speaker 1: We gon' be fine this time.

848
00:43:42,030 --> 00:43:44,830
Speaker 5: We gon' be fine this time. We gon' be fine

849
00:43:44,850 --> 00:43:47,830
Speaker 5: this time. We gon' be fine this time. We gon'

850
00:43:47,850 --> 00:43:50,930
Speaker 5: be fine this time. Finally, it's my time. Feeling it

851
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:53,529
Speaker 5: time to time. It's your time. We gon' be fine

852
00:43:53,550 --> 00:43:55,930
Speaker 5: this time. We gon' be fine. We gon' be. Head

853
00:43:55,989 --> 00:43:57,509
Speaker 5: to the air. Head to the air.

854
00:43:57,530 --> 00:43:58,620
Speaker 2: Long as you're there, you got me.

855
00:43:58,630 --> 00:44:00,930
Speaker 5: You're in control. Gotta let go. One thing I know,

856
00:44:00,969 --> 00:44:02,689
Speaker 5: we gon' be. We gon' be. We gon' be fine

857
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:05,050
Speaker 5: this time. Can't think about this time. I just wanna

858
00:44:05,070 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 5: lose my mind. I know my words reach right now.

859
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: Instead, I'm on the beach.

860
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:29,299
Speaker 7: I mean, What I might just name my app. The

861
00:44:29,380 --> 00:44:32,780
Speaker 7: devil work it to go crazy. Somehow he still ain't warm.

862
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:34,980
Speaker 7: You bless me so much and it's the fact I

863
00:44:35,020 --> 00:44:36,020
Speaker 7: know you still ain't done.

864
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:36,300
Speaker 2: Amen.

865
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 5: We gon' be fine this time. We gon' be fine

866
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:39,180
Speaker 5: this time.

867
00:44:39,219 --> 00:44:39,859
Speaker 2: We gon' be.

868
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,219
Speaker 5: We gon' be fine this time. We gon' be fine

869
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 5: this time. We gon' be. Man, I'm fine this time.

870
00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:47,859
Speaker 5: Finally it's my time. Feeling inside this time. It's your time.

871
00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:49,660
Speaker 5: We gon' be fine this time. We gon' be fine.

872
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,549
Speaker 5: We gon' be. We gon' be. Let's go. Let's go.

873
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:55,850
Speaker 5: Sadie and Kirk.

874
00:44:56,090 --> 00:45:01,610
Speaker 7: Kirk, that might be your biggest song.

875
00:45:00,790 --> 00:45:25,410
Speaker 2: Ever right now. No, huh? Heard here first. You're the

876
00:45:25,450 --> 00:45:30,250
Speaker 2: first one. Stop, James. We know we break the records.

877
00:45:30,370 --> 00:45:36,100
Speaker 2: Young Miami came up in here with that. And me

878
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,500
Speaker 2: and Jada, we was like, we know a hit when

879
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: we hear it. So talk to me.

880
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:41,550
Speaker 3: Talk to me.

881
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,060
Speaker 2: Man, that's out of here. That's so much more out

882
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:52,540
Speaker 2: of here. of the Slap Curriculum. When I say you,

883
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,890
Speaker 2: when you go, we'll be fine this time, we'll be

884
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:58,430
Speaker 2: fine this time, we'll be... Wow. I think everybody needs

885
00:45:58,450 --> 00:46:00,230
Speaker 2: to hear that every morning.

886
00:46:00,650 --> 00:46:01,710
Speaker 5: Wow. Anybody.

887
00:46:01,890 --> 00:46:04,290
Speaker 2: Not just church, not just you want to feel great

888
00:46:04,310 --> 00:46:06,430
Speaker 2: about your day. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

889
00:46:06,450 --> 00:46:09,529
Speaker 4: Because I'm at the age now that when I wake up,

890
00:46:09,590 --> 00:46:10,730
Speaker 4: I got one eye.

891
00:46:10,489 --> 00:46:11,070
Speaker 2: Go like this.

892
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:14,250
Speaker 5: I go....

893
00:46:15,900 --> 00:46:20,020
Speaker 2: Look out the window. Are we up? We got another day. Yo, God,

894
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: thank you, baby.

895
00:46:24,690 --> 00:46:30,610
Speaker 3: JoeAndJayTheShow.com. We got new merch fresh off the presses. Go

896
00:46:30,730 --> 00:46:37,410
Speaker 3: get it. Big out of big. JoeAndJayTheShow.com. You can get these.

897
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:40,350
Speaker 3: A little cold for a t-shirt with a hoodie tag.

898
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,910
Speaker 4: It's my favorite right there. I need an extra large. Showajaytheshow.com.

899
00:46:44,969 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 4: Go there and get it.

900
00:46:52,890 --> 00:46:54,390
Speaker 2: This one is for the OGs.

901
00:46:55,250 --> 00:46:57,859
Speaker 3: Let's keep it 1,800.

902
00:46:57,860 --> 00:47:00,859
Speaker 1: Sona, have both of you ever had anybody sit here

903
00:47:01,340 --> 00:47:04,460
Speaker 1: and play a record and you had to say to them, nah?

904
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: When it ain't right, you just start looking at the

905
00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: light bulbs.

906
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,739
Speaker 4: It's almost like you get the little Tweety birds around you.

907
00:47:15,860 --> 00:47:18,790
Speaker 1: We don't change garbage.

908
00:47:18,830 --> 00:47:20,069
Speaker 2: We just give you the, like.

909
00:47:20,090 --> 00:47:23,130
Speaker 3: To get the room getting a little somber.

910
00:47:23,830 --> 00:47:25,629
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm asking. No, I'm not. We ain't lying

911
00:47:25,650 --> 00:47:27,910
Speaker 2: to you. Oh, you know what? You know what? I'm

912
00:47:27,950 --> 00:47:30,129
Speaker 2: trying to make sure. I just told you. That might

913
00:47:30,170 --> 00:47:32,339
Speaker 2: be your best record ever. That's out of here. This

914
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,700
Speaker 2: is what I'm trying to tell you. I don't lie.

915
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:34,959
Speaker 5: Listen.

916
00:47:36,340 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make sure you're not giving me the

917
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,290
Speaker 1: Apollo joint. <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>

918
00:47:43,350 --> 00:47:45,549
Speaker 1: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>

919
00:47:45,590 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> This is what I'm talking about.

920
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,020
Speaker 1: First of all, I love to move. I love to move. No, no,

921
00:47:51,060 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, remember, You.

922
00:47:53,810 --> 00:47:57,730
Speaker 4: Know, a sandman grab the cane and pull you by

923
00:47:57,770 --> 00:47:58,270
Speaker 4: your neck.

924
00:47:58,350 --> 00:48:00,170
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what I'm talking about, though, both of you

925
00:48:00,190 --> 00:48:01,030
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

926
00:48:01,450 --> 00:48:04,020
Speaker 1: Like, the word always was that when you go to

927
00:48:04,460 --> 00:48:08,739
Speaker 1: Amateur Night, do a gospel song because they don't boo you.

928
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,660
Speaker 2: Like, you know, like, they don't boo you. That was

929
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,029
Speaker 2: always the rumor. You know, I won four weeks. You

930
00:48:13,070 --> 00:48:18,390
Speaker 2: didn't know? Yeah. Has anybody ever heard that before?

931
00:48:18,730 --> 00:48:21,670
Speaker 1: Like the cheat code was, if you perform on Amateur

932
00:48:21,730 --> 00:48:22,910
Speaker 1: Night at the Apollo, he didn't.

933
00:48:22,730 --> 00:48:25,990
Speaker 4: Tell you what's the cheat code at the Apollo. He

934
00:48:26,050 --> 00:48:28,350
Speaker 4: wouldn't tell you what the cheat code is at the Apollo.

935
00:48:28,469 --> 00:48:31,430
Speaker 4: I started in the Apollo. I won four weeks, number one.

936
00:48:31,469 --> 00:48:34,549
Speaker 4: That's how I became fat. That's how I learned. I

937
00:48:34,610 --> 00:48:37,250
Speaker 4: had red alert and all that and got on. Nobody

938
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:41,310
Speaker 4: been to Apollo more than me. You get a heavy set, girl.

939
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,779
Speaker 4: And she starts singing, and I am telling you. And

940
00:48:47,420 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 4: she kicked them shoes off. That is the cheat code.

941
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,810
Speaker 2: Every week for 40 years, you get a girl up there,

942
00:48:55,830 --> 00:48:58,469
Speaker 2: you almost won. You're like, yo, I got this. I

943
00:48:58,489 --> 00:49:01,330
Speaker 2: got this, this, this, that. What you got to say, Greg?

944
00:49:02,489 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: And I am telling you, I am not your... And

945
00:49:07,780 --> 00:49:10,660
Speaker 2: they kicked them shoes off. He ain't cappin' though. He

946
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: ain't cappin'. They let him go get they cousin.

947
00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:16,470
Speaker 1: Almost like every week, every week somebody did that record.

948
00:49:16,830 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: That is the biggest song in Apollo 2. history.

949
00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:23,339
Speaker 1: Once they do that. Well, I just wanted to make

950
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,739
Speaker 1: sure that when y'all played that record, I'm just trying

951
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,779
Speaker 1: to make sure. Well, shout out Shorty Lowe, who's one

952
00:49:27,820 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: of my favorite guys. Rest in peace. Shorty Lowe.

953
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:36,049
Speaker 2: I love that song. Choir rehearsal. You know what's crazy

954
00:49:36,090 --> 00:49:42,270
Speaker 2: is In the car. That's a slap. That's certified slap. Wow.

955
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:45,259
Speaker 2: And it's moving the needle.

956
00:49:45,820 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 4: And so one thing, you know, I've always listened to

957
00:49:49,860 --> 00:49:52,140
Speaker 4: gospel music, gospel rap. I used to go to a

958
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:57,049
Speaker 4: barbershop in Miami. It ain't really Miami. I don't know

959
00:49:57,070 --> 00:49:59,750
Speaker 4: if it's highly or something. And the barbershop was gospel.

960
00:50:00,170 --> 00:50:05,350
Speaker 2: It was not played nothing, but gospel hip hop. That's it.

961
00:50:05,550 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 2: All the barbers was church dead.

962
00:50:07,390 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 5: Nice.

963
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,339
Speaker 2: So you got to go to them.

964
00:50:09,380 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 4: They, the nicest ones in Miami and you go in there,

965
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,460
Speaker 4: everybody's gospel and they just be playing the gospel joints.

966
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,500
Speaker 4: And it was always to me at that time, it

967
00:50:18,540 --> 00:50:23,620
Speaker 4: was always like a safe gospel. And so you, I

968
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,730
Speaker 4: think you pushed the envelope forward as you should. I've

969
00:50:26,850 --> 00:50:29,109
Speaker 4: always knew this since then. I was like, yo, they

970
00:50:29,130 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 4: should just go for it, go for it. And you

971
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,660
Speaker 4: can't say the same thing.

972
00:50:35,140 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 2: Right.

973
00:50:35,380 --> 00:50:39,100
Speaker 4: So everybody, you know, I've always thought gospel rappers could

974
00:50:39,140 --> 00:50:40,860
Speaker 4: be more like a Scarface.

975
00:50:41,060 --> 00:50:41,380
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

976
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

977
00:50:41,620 --> 00:50:43,260
Speaker 2: And then with the hook. Yeah.

978
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 4: But if everybody's just saying the same thing over and

979
00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:49,930
Speaker 4: over again, he's this, he's that, he's this, you know.

980
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:50,390
Speaker 5: Yeah.

981
00:50:50,489 --> 00:50:52,569
Speaker 2: And I was, you can tell stories too.

982
00:50:53,210 --> 00:50:53,590
Speaker 5: Yes.

983
00:50:53,870 --> 00:50:55,270
Speaker 2: You got to tell stories. You got to.

984
00:50:55,610 --> 00:50:58,370
Speaker 1: And I think that there are some, you know, and

985
00:50:58,410 --> 00:51:00,310
Speaker 1: I just want to use my platform right now to

986
00:51:00,350 --> 00:51:03,069
Speaker 1: just shout out some gospel artists. There's some people that

987
00:51:03,090 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: I just want the culture to know. Like, I think

988
00:51:05,140 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: that you need to check out, you know, there's a

989
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: young dude named Jonathan McReynolds, Fire. Young dude named Chandler Moore,

990
00:51:11,380 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: Darryl Walls. There's some young rappers coming up that are there.

991
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,589
Speaker 1: can't really think of some of the youngins right now

992
00:51:18,630 --> 00:51:20,009
Speaker 1: but but like i know the.

993
00:51:20,030 --> 00:51:22,870
Speaker 4: Last one that made like crazy no cray the cray

994
00:51:23,090 --> 00:51:25,750
Speaker 4: the cray still fine he's still fine he's the one

995
00:51:25,770 --> 00:51:28,969
Speaker 4: he was on fire like i like i like i

996
00:51:29,010 --> 00:51:32,210
Speaker 4: had regular spitters he was a spitter not what you

997
00:51:32,250 --> 00:51:35,750
Speaker 4: call secular whatever i had the like jaded kisses like

998
00:51:35,790 --> 00:51:37,990
Speaker 4: that be like yo you heard this kid look crazy.

999
00:51:37,770 --> 00:51:39,830
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah Fine, fine, fine.

1000
00:51:40,130 --> 00:51:42,969
Speaker 1: So, you know, there's just some people that I just

1001
00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:45,260
Speaker 1: want people to know, man, that gospel music ain't just

1002
00:51:45,410 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: one artist. There's a whole community of hitters that I

1003
00:51:48,940 --> 00:51:50,180
Speaker 1: want to be able to use my platform to.

1004
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,980
Speaker 2: Say, man. You know, my thing is, we fall down.

1005
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: Donna McClurkin. We get up. Yeah, yeah. Nah, that's my thing.

1006
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 2: Question for you. Jada, Jada, Jada, answer the question, Jada.

1007
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:03,420
Speaker 2: We get up.

1008
00:52:04,300 --> 00:52:10,390
Speaker 3: Has he ever sung this much with any other guests?

1009
00:52:10,489 --> 00:52:11,950
Speaker 2: Nowhere next. I like that.

1010
00:52:12,310 --> 00:52:15,130
Speaker 1: How do you feel about the singing that you've experienced?

1011
00:52:15,150 --> 00:52:17,810
Speaker 2: I'm a hard boy singing. You ain't got to, Jada, man.

1012
00:52:17,930 --> 00:52:20,290
Speaker 3: I can't help it. I just got to learn how to,

1013
00:52:20,290 --> 00:52:24,149
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? God's with me every day.

1014
00:52:24,210 --> 00:52:29,219
Speaker 2: He helps me. He helps me. He helps me cope.

1015
00:52:29,820 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 2: What'd I say?

1016
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:39,970
Speaker 8: Hold on, hold on, hold on. Joe, Joe, Joe. Joe, Joe, Joe,

1017
00:52:40,110 --> 00:52:40,930
Speaker 8: I have a question though.

1018
00:52:41,370 --> 00:52:42,509
Speaker 5: Like, like.

1019
00:52:42,830 --> 00:52:48,150
Speaker 2: I want to thank you, Heavenly Father. I have a question.

1020
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:52,009
Speaker 3: How did y'all come, like, were y'all this super tight

1021
00:52:52,050 --> 00:52:54,220
Speaker 3: before this show?

1022
00:52:54,380 --> 00:52:57,620
Speaker 1: How did y'all come up with this? Like, were y'all

1023
00:52:57,700 --> 00:52:59,420
Speaker 1: boys like this before this podcast?

1024
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,860
Speaker 2: We was always cool. Always brothers. Always.

1025
00:53:01,900 --> 00:53:10,390
Speaker 1: But how did y'all, like, this combo is like really, really, really, oh, oh.

1026
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:13,989
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think. Super fresh. Mike Rinkley or something.

1027
00:53:14,010 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 4: Somebody was saying, Listen, y'all should come together. We pitched

1028
00:53:18,460 --> 00:53:22,060
Speaker 4: this show to somebody before and they said, nah. Supposed

1029
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 4: to do some Amazon. Yeah, something. They said, nah, it's this, that.

1030
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,509
Speaker 4: And so with me, you know, I'm a hustler, Kirk.

1031
00:53:31,570 --> 00:53:36,910
Speaker 4: So I'm saying I give back so much to the community,

1032
00:53:36,969 --> 00:53:40,130
Speaker 4: but I got to give back while wearing Louis Vuitton

1033
00:53:40,190 --> 00:53:40,950
Speaker 4: or Gucci or whatever.

1034
00:53:42,090 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: Right? So I have no problem.

1035
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: So that coach backseat ain't going to ever happen.

1036
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,100
Speaker 2: No, it's not going to happen. It's never going to happen.

1037
00:53:50,140 --> 00:53:52,100
Speaker 2: Don't do that. Don't do that, Kirk. You got a

1038
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:57,740
Speaker 2: powerful voice. Don't talk it up. Don't talk it up.

1039
00:53:57,780 --> 00:54:01,460
Speaker 4: But my thing is, I told him I was watching

1040
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,180
Speaker 4: what these people were doing and numbers and how they

1041
00:54:04,219 --> 00:54:06,529
Speaker 4: was making money and all that. I grabbed Jada one

1042
00:54:06,550 --> 00:54:09,969
Speaker 4: day and I said, yo, I said, don't worry about it.

1043
00:54:10,230 --> 00:54:14,589
Speaker 4: Because to me, Jada, to me, Jada has always been,

1044
00:54:14,610 --> 00:54:18,780
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say shy, but he's not a real outgoing,

1045
00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:20,259
Speaker 4: talkative person.

1046
00:54:20,300 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but his flat humor is lit, though.

1047
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,940
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then we figured that out after he been

1048
00:54:24,980 --> 00:54:26,610
Speaker 4: roasting me on the show for you.

1049
00:54:26,660 --> 00:54:31,850
Speaker 2: Yo, man. Yo, man. I learned that too. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. No, no, no.

1050
00:54:31,950 --> 00:54:33,989
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the shots at Bob. Did he just

1051
00:54:34,010 --> 00:54:35,510
Speaker 2: hit you? No, bro. On my mama.

1052
00:54:35,530 --> 00:54:39,950
Speaker 1: With a 22? His flat face humor is like genius.

1053
00:54:40,010 --> 00:54:42,420
Speaker 1: It's like he'll stab you and you don't even realize

1054
00:54:42,460 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: you bleeding.

1055
00:54:43,100 --> 00:54:43,770
Speaker 5: You didn't even know it.

1056
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 2: Like he just stabbed you. Nah, this guy here. He

1057
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: just stabbed you and it's like, what? Why am I bleeding?

1058
00:54:49,300 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 2: Why am I bleeding? You don't even know you're bleeding because-

1059
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 2: One day.

1060
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,259
Speaker 4: I came in here, threatened K, his best friend. I said, yo, K,

1061
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 4: you know what he's doing to me, man. I seen

1062
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:57,380
Speaker 4: it on the show.

1063
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:58,060
Speaker 2: I ain't even know.

1064
00:54:58,420 --> 00:55:01,970
Speaker 4: But the point is, we followed the money. We just

1065
00:55:02,010 --> 00:55:04,450
Speaker 4: looked at it and we just said, yo, they making

1066
00:55:04,489 --> 00:55:06,390
Speaker 4: a lot of money here. We got to step in there.

1067
00:55:06,430 --> 00:55:09,370
Speaker 4: And I knew Fat Joe was going to go crazy.

1068
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1069
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 4: And I just knew his authenticity of, like you said,

1070
00:55:14,340 --> 00:55:15,670
Speaker 4: I don't care if you in.

1071
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,290
Speaker 2: Church, you watch, you watch Versus. Yes. You know what

1072
00:55:19,330 --> 00:55:21,230
Speaker 2: he is. He's top five dead or alive.

1073
00:55:21,590 --> 00:55:21,730
Speaker 7: Oh.

1074
00:55:21,750 --> 00:55:24,009
Speaker 4: So I said, when we talk about this hip hop

1075
00:55:24,090 --> 00:55:26,140
Speaker 4: and all that. They still doing memorials after that.

1076
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,259
Speaker 2: Nobody can beat us. There's no way to beat us.

1077
00:55:28,340 --> 00:55:31,340
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at it. So I knew anybody who's

1078
00:55:31,780 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 2: any other podcast who saw this, I promise you the

1079
00:55:35,180 --> 00:55:37,379
Speaker 2: first day they saw this, they said, man, I hope

1080
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,109
Speaker 2: this is just a hobby. They thought it wasn't going

1081
00:55:41,150 --> 00:55:45,489
Speaker 2: to work. They thought we wasn't going to be, you know. No, no, no, no, no.

1082
00:55:45,530 --> 00:55:48,790
Speaker 2: It's different. No, no, no, no, no, no. We're talking

1083
00:55:48,830 --> 00:55:52,510
Speaker 2: to a church man here. God, man. They were scared

1084
00:55:52,570 --> 00:55:55,189
Speaker 2: to death. They didn't think it wasn't going to work.

1085
00:55:55,550 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: They hope me and you ain't want to work. They

1086
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,340
Speaker 2: hope we ain't with all they rappers. Maybe once a

1087
00:56:01,380 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 2: month when they seen them episodes coming like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1088
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:06,260
Speaker 2: And they seen that set.

1089
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:07,060
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1090
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:12,259
Speaker 2: And they seen Cardi B and French Montana. Let me

1091
00:56:12,340 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 2: ask y'all this question then.

1092
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: So like when y'all started hearing about Southern hip hop,

1093
00:56:17,550 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 1: And it's like coming from the Mecca, what was your

1094
00:56:21,030 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: honest view and thought? Like, who did you respect? Who

1095
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: were you a fan of? And just like, what was

1096
00:56:27,580 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: your view of what was happening? I came out around

1097
00:56:30,580 --> 00:56:34,339
Speaker 1: the time with Outkast. We came out around the same

1098
00:56:34,380 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: time Outkast came out. Did you know they was going

1099
00:56:36,420 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: to be out?

1100
00:56:39,300 --> 00:56:42,250
Speaker 3: Super Fritz go where they took it to, but we

1101
00:56:42,290 --> 00:56:43,890
Speaker 3: thought they was dope.

1102
00:56:44,170 --> 00:56:46,050
Speaker 2: So you thought that they were nice?

1103
00:56:46,090 --> 00:56:49,390
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they came with the whole organized noise and

1104
00:56:49,969 --> 00:56:51,830
Speaker 6: Goody Mob and C-Lo.

1105
00:56:52,250 --> 00:56:54,859
Speaker 2: We thought they was, we thought, we like, yo, these dudes,

1106
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:55,720
Speaker 2: they nice.

1107
00:56:55,820 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 3: But what about the Pimp C's and the... Me, I'm

1108
00:56:59,660 --> 00:57:01,990
Speaker 3: more of a Goody Mob. He heard it before me.

1109
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,950
Speaker 3: What you heard before me, get up. Yo, stop calling me.

1110
00:57:06,270 --> 00:57:10,149
Speaker 3: I just said you're older, so you heard Southern rap

1111
00:57:10,270 --> 00:57:10,950
Speaker 3: before me.

1112
00:57:13,340 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 4: When you get my age, keep doing them pull-ups so

1113
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:22,450
Speaker 4: you can look this good. Remember I told you. Definitely

1114
00:57:22,490 --> 00:57:26,910
Speaker 4: the ghetto boys, right? And definitely the goody mom. Who's

1115
00:57:26,970 --> 00:57:32,550
Speaker 4: that looking in my window? Yeah, thanks. Nobody now. And I,

1116
00:57:33,370 --> 00:57:39,220
Speaker 4: Fat Joe, I can say this wholeheartedly. I've always embraced....

1117
00:57:40,750 --> 00:57:45,830
Speaker 2: Everybody. The South got something to say. The West Coast

1118
00:57:45,870 --> 00:57:48,530
Speaker 2: has something to say. The Midwest has something to say.

1119
00:57:48,550 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: I was on every Little John album except maybe one

1120
00:57:51,140 --> 00:57:54,340
Speaker 2: or two. Wow. Yeah. Wow.

1121
00:57:54,420 --> 00:57:58,459
Speaker 4: And Little John took me to Summer Jam when, yo,

1122
00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 4: this all makes sense.

1123
00:58:01,180 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: Lean Back was only maybe three days old, right? And

1124
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: Big Records.

1125
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:11,330
Speaker 4: Hot 97, and I'm going to really, really point the

1126
00:58:11,850 --> 00:58:17,250
Speaker 4: cannons at Ebro Darden, right? And I'm going to say

1127
00:58:17,310 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 4: they funded on Fat Joe to do Lean Back. And

1128
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,340
Speaker 4: Lil Jon was like, yo, we got to do your

1129
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,140
Speaker 4: new song. So he put me on stage in his set.

1130
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,610
Speaker 4: And when I tell you 80,000 people leaning back like this,

1131
00:58:30,730 --> 00:58:31,450
Speaker 4: and I look.

1132
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:33,830
Speaker 2: Back, and Kanye West is hiding behind.

1133
00:58:33,870 --> 00:58:35,910
Speaker 4: Like, everybody knew it was the smoker.

1134
00:58:36,030 --> 00:58:38,510
Speaker 2: Because Hot 97 chose to front.

1135
00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:41,150
Speaker 4: And Lil Jon, that's why on the remix, it said,

1136
00:58:41,170 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 4: took a damn south brother to bring your boy out.

1137
00:58:44,780 --> 00:58:45,340
Speaker 7: Because.

1138
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,660
Speaker 2: When that happened, it was nothing you could say.

1139
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,420
Speaker 4: The whole stadium in two days, three days after they

1140
00:58:51,460 --> 00:58:53,780
Speaker 4: came out, the whole stadium was doing this.

1141
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Scott did that record, though, didn't he? Scott

1142
00:58:55,980 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 2: did it. Lil Jon did the remix. I'm not saying that.

1143
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,030
Speaker 2: Lil Jon's my man. I got you, got you. No, no, no. No,

1144
00:59:01,150 --> 00:59:03,250
Speaker 2: I'm trying to educate. I don't know if you know.

1145
00:59:02,970 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 4: About that song with Lil Jon. I ain't really trying

1146
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,250
Speaker 4: to play no games. You already, I'm on there with

1147
00:59:08,290 --> 00:59:09,610
Speaker 4: Trick Daddy. He been my man.

1148
00:59:09,630 --> 00:59:10,310
Speaker 2: Making history.

1149
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:14,410
Speaker 4: You're going to the Trump, Sky Rizzy. There's a song

1150
00:59:14,450 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 4: you can sing that is something necessary.

1151
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 2: What does that mean?

1152
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 4: Where's he going? Now I ain't got old man break.

1153
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,460
Speaker 4: You know the man, the man, the man got a

1154
00:59:22,460 --> 00:59:25,700
Speaker 4: whole little pill with a story to tell.

1155
00:59:26,420 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: You know, we all... He's on Sky Rizzo. He's on

1156
00:59:29,060 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 2: the Sky Rizzo. He's on the Sky Rizzo. He's on

1157
00:59:30,900 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: the Sky Rizzo.

1158
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,620
Speaker 4: Make a little pill with something to suck.

1159
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,050
Speaker 2: Tell the Sky Rizzo to make you pee. We don't know.

1160
00:59:37,090 --> 00:59:37,930
Speaker 2: We just lying.

1161
00:59:38,430 --> 00:59:39,450
Speaker 5: He's singing a song.

1162
00:59:39,570 --> 00:59:43,290
Speaker 2: Yesterday was Trent Fire. The other day was those... We

1163
00:59:43,310 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 2: just anything. This is a bunch of 50-year-old guys talking about.

1164
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 4: One day the man told me Scott Rizzi I looked

1165
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 4: it up and I said yo this ain't got nothing

1166
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 4: to do with pissing no nothing I thought he you

1167
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,180
Speaker 4: know top five dead or alive woody rapper I thought

1168
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,780
Speaker 4: he knew what he was talking about I looked it

1169
00:59:59,820 --> 01:00:02,300
Speaker 4: up I said yo this guy ain't always singing this

1170
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,020
Speaker 4: Scott Rizzi to me man what's this about they ain't

1171
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 4: have nothing to do with pissing you know it's just

1172
01:00:08,890 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 4: a theme song.

1173
01:00:10,490 --> 01:00:17,130
Speaker 2: No they been living right They've been living for real.

1174
01:00:17,170 --> 01:00:20,910
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Oh, wait a minute.

1175
01:00:20,970 --> 01:00:22,210
Speaker 2: So the interview's still going?

1176
01:00:22,230 --> 01:00:22,300
Speaker 5: Yes.

1177
01:00:22,490 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 2: Y'all cut. Y'all cut. We don't stop. We don't never

1178
01:00:34,740 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 2: shut up. We never shut up. No, we never. I

1179
01:00:40,460 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: thought y'all stopped rolling. Because he had to pee. But

1180
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:46,930
Speaker 2: he got to pee. I'll just.

1181
01:00:49,530 --> 01:00:52,470
Speaker 4: Don't you want to look like this beautiful man Tyson

1182
01:00:52,510 --> 01:00:55,350
Speaker 4: back for a year? Maybe trim off the beard with

1183
01:00:55,390 --> 01:00:57,190
Speaker 4: the rewind of time.

1184
01:00:57,730 --> 01:01:00,650
Speaker 2: It's our product. I do a drop? No, not a drop.

1185
01:01:00,790 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 2: I need you to use. Have you ever done it?

1186
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,460
Speaker 2: I thought you wanted me to. No, brother, no. This

1187
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:12,180
Speaker 2: part of the show, Kirk. Where's the camera? Okay. Why

1188
01:01:12,300 --> 01:01:14,980
Speaker 2: fight the time when you can rewind the time? Okay.

1189
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,590
Speaker 2: All right.

1190
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,430
Speaker 1: My name is Kirk Franklin and I want to ask

1191
01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:25,670
Speaker 1: all of my brothers out there why fight the time

1192
01:01:26,550 --> 01:01:31,190
Speaker 1: when you can rewind the time why fight the time

1193
01:01:31,270 --> 01:01:35,620
Speaker 1: why fight the time when you can rewind the time Pam,

1194
01:01:35,980 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: hi my name is Kirk Franklin and I'm asking you

1195
01:01:40,740 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: brothers out there why fight the time when you can

1196
01:01:45,940 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: Rewind the time.

1197
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:48,250
Speaker 2: Yes!

1198
01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:56,380
Speaker 1: That was my good white boy voice. That was my

1199
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: white man voice. Available in Sally's Beauty. Available in CVS.

1200
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,810
Speaker 1: I thought they stopped rolling. They just kept going without you.

1201
01:02:04,930 --> 01:02:06,990
Speaker 1: I made a whole Rewinded commercial.

1202
01:02:07,230 --> 01:02:16,490
Speaker 2: And he's walking around. Okay. Okay. Okay, Kiss Cafe. Okay,

1203
01:02:16,510 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 2: Kiss Cafe. And I got to put this back. I

1204
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,660
Speaker 2: know that paid the bills. Okay. All right.

1205
01:02:23,530 --> 01:02:27,110
Speaker 1: My name's Kirk Franklin. Sometimes when you wake up in

1206
01:02:27,130 --> 01:02:29,130
Speaker 1: the morning and you need a fresh start to get going,

1207
01:02:29,730 --> 01:02:34,330
Speaker 1: I recommend Kiss Cafe. Kiss Cafe can get your spirits

1208
01:02:34,490 --> 01:02:35,950
Speaker 1: up and your body moving.

1209
01:02:36,350 --> 01:02:39,310
Speaker 2: Try today. Kiss Cafe.

1210
01:02:47,790 --> 01:02:52,710
Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question real quick and I

1211
01:02:52,710 --> 01:02:54,870
Speaker 4: don't want to say top five because this is all

1212
01:02:54,890 --> 01:02:56,730
Speaker 4: getting played out, but could you name me some of

1213
01:02:56,770 --> 01:03:03,580
Speaker 4: your greatest influences in the church music and gospel music

1214
01:03:04,180 --> 01:03:10,030
Speaker 4: that really influenced you or really you loved hearing it Yes, sir.

1215
01:03:10,110 --> 01:03:14,750
Speaker 2: Yes, sir. One individual, he was just a songwriter.

1216
01:03:14,790 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: He wasn't like a big gospel star, but he was

1217
01:03:17,340 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: very influential in a lot of other people's lives.

1218
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 2: His pen game was crazy. His name is B. Michael McKay. Michael. Yeah.

1219
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: And then there's another guy who was a very kind

1220
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,970
Speaker 1: of niche, a kind of underground gospel guy.

1221
01:03:31,250 --> 01:03:33,070
Speaker 2: His pen game was very romantic.

1222
01:03:33,150 --> 01:03:36,130
Speaker 1: Like he would write, like it felt like love letters

1223
01:03:36,190 --> 01:03:37,850
Speaker 1: to God, the way he would flip it up. It

1224
01:03:37,870 --> 01:03:39,670
Speaker 1: was just mad crazy how he could do it. His

1225
01:03:39,710 --> 01:03:43,010
Speaker 1: name was Thomas Whitfield, Thomas Whitfield. And then of course

1226
01:03:43,050 --> 01:03:45,370
Speaker 1: I got to throw in Andre Crouch. It's because he

1227
01:03:45,390 --> 01:03:50,250
Speaker 1: was just the OG. And then I would say after that,

1228
01:03:50,290 --> 01:03:54,410
Speaker 1: the Hawkins, Edwin N. Walter, And then last, I would

1229
01:03:54,430 --> 01:03:58,150
Speaker 1: probably say for me who influenced, uh, gospel meets the

1230
01:03:58,190 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: way that I saw young people coming to church, young

1231
01:04:00,740 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: people being lit and turned in church. I would say

1232
01:04:03,260 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: shout out to the OG John P.

1233
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 2: Key. Wow. Yeah. Make some noise for that. See, I

1234
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:16,340
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know everybody you mentioned, but I

1235
01:04:16,450 --> 01:04:16,890
Speaker 2: do know.

1236
01:04:18,270 --> 01:04:21,370
Speaker 4: Whenever that woman came to them awards, set up shop,

1237
01:04:21,410 --> 01:04:22,710
Speaker 4: that Yolanda Adams.

1238
01:04:22,830 --> 01:04:25,650
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. She ain't even had to say nothing. Yeah.

1239
01:04:25,930 --> 01:04:27,970
Speaker 4: You could be in the corner of the trap, wherever.

1240
01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:30,070
Speaker 4: When that lady went up on there, you already knew

1241
01:04:30,130 --> 01:04:33,270
Speaker 4: this thing, the roof coming off this. This woman going

1242
01:04:33,290 --> 01:04:34,510
Speaker 4: to tear that thing down.

1243
01:04:34,630 --> 01:04:35,010
Speaker 2: Shut up.

1244
01:04:35,230 --> 01:04:38,150
Speaker 4: And let me ask you a question, right? Because everybody

1245
01:04:38,190 --> 01:04:40,110
Speaker 4: laughs at me when I tell them I'm a Joel

1246
01:04:40,250 --> 01:04:44,070
Speaker 4: Osteen type of guy. I love Joel Osteen. He's my

1247
01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:46,930
Speaker 4: favorite guy. The guy got me through so much. And

1248
01:04:46,990 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 4: everybody was like, yo, you don't want to hear, you know, everybody,

1249
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,540
Speaker 4: even Montel George said, yo, you got to give me

1250
01:04:52,560 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 4: a shot, man. You know, as far as pastors, like

1251
01:05:00,460 --> 01:05:03,620
Speaker 4: who moves you when you hear that message? You just like, wow,

1252
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 4: these guys are incredible.

1253
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,890
Speaker 2: They got a great message. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know,

1254
01:05:08,510 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 2: there's some new hitters. They're nice. Nice. Young boy I

1255
01:05:13,620 --> 01:05:19,500
Speaker 2: follow on Instagram. Who? I don't even know. But he's talking. Okay.

1256
01:05:19,780 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 2: He's talking. When you find out who he is, I'll

1257
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 2: let you know.

1258
01:05:24,860 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 4: Nah, he's on Instagram. You got to throw a flag.

1259
01:05:27,500 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 4: I don't know who he is. But he's on my...

1260
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,459
Speaker 4: If I went on my Instagram right now... When we finish,

1261
01:05:32,500 --> 01:05:33,660
Speaker 4: I want you to pull him up. I'm going to

1262
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,500
Speaker 4: show you the man talking. You don't look fancy, nothing,

1263
01:05:37,540 --> 01:05:40,340
Speaker 4: young dude. And man, he talking.

1264
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,770
Speaker 1: There's like some young hitters and, you know, and these

1265
01:05:43,810 --> 01:05:46,270
Speaker 1: dudes I'm about to shout out right now, they good

1266
01:05:46,370 --> 01:05:49,150
Speaker 1: folk too. They good folk. They ain't about that whoop whoop.

1267
01:05:49,170 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: They ain't about that, you know, they ain't about all

1268
01:05:51,180 --> 01:05:52,020
Speaker 1: that other foolishness.

1269
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,100
Speaker 2: They ain't honk if you hear Jesus. All that, all that.

1270
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 2: You haven't met a pastor, keep it to yourself. That

1271
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 2: you felt like it was hunk if you hear Jesus?

1272
01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:03,260
Speaker 2: I was raced around all of that. Dang, man.

1273
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,890
Speaker 4: I was raced around all of that. That's the shit

1274
01:06:05,970 --> 01:06:09,570
Speaker 4: I don't like. Like, I can't do that. Because I'm

1275
01:06:09,590 --> 01:06:11,430
Speaker 4: with God for real.

1276
01:06:11,490 --> 01:06:13,630
Speaker 2: I'm headed. Like, I am all in.

1277
01:06:13,630 --> 01:06:20,530
Speaker 4: 100% of when I see something like, Honk if you

1278
01:06:20,570 --> 01:06:22,250
Speaker 4: hear Jesus.

1279
01:06:22,510 --> 01:06:25,790
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, does this exist? Does it exist?

1280
01:06:25,850 --> 01:06:29,150
Speaker 3: You almost caught a Jesus flag.

1281
01:06:30,250 --> 01:06:33,630
Speaker 2: What did I say? You caught it. I caught it?

1282
01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:39,820
Speaker 2: Head in? Hey. What did he say? What did he

1283
01:06:39,860 --> 01:06:44,460
Speaker 2: almost say? I missed it. He started to know. What'd

1284
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 2: you say?

1285
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 4: What's the name of this song? Don't listen to this guy.

1286
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,070
Speaker 4: This guy is just These guys is, you know, don't let.

1287
01:06:51,090 --> 01:06:54,030
Speaker 3: There's something inappropriate for the congregation.

1288
01:06:56,860 --> 01:06:59,430
Speaker 1: Well, let me jump back in. Let me jump back in.

1289
01:06:59,490 --> 01:07:01,350
Speaker 1: There's a couple of hitters that I think are really,

1290
01:07:01,410 --> 01:07:02,689
Speaker 1: really good.

1291
01:07:02,710 --> 01:07:03,370
Speaker 2: You can't.

1292
01:07:04,190 --> 01:07:07,750
Speaker 3: Did I almost do it?

1293
01:07:07,850 --> 01:07:14,260
Speaker 2: No, no. No, we're not going to give Kirby that.

1294
01:07:14,380 --> 01:07:16,380
Speaker 3: He's the coach.

1295
01:07:16,420 --> 01:07:18,820
Speaker 2: Y'all got to let me know later what I almost said.

1296
01:07:18,860 --> 01:07:23,070
Speaker 2: God damn it. Let's throw the flag. We are live.

1297
01:07:23,710 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 2: Y'all listen. Yeah, but you ain't heard. Oh, he running

1298
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,750
Speaker 2: through it too. I want to know what I.

1299
01:07:35,110 --> 01:07:37,420
Speaker 2: I got to do your boy. Y'all got to school me.

1300
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,420
Speaker 2: What'd you say? Just when it's in the air, it's

1301
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:49,030
Speaker 2: like infectious. When we just... Throw it. Don't even talk. Listen. Listen.

1302
01:07:49,050 --> 01:07:54,550
Speaker 2: Name of the song. Kirk. Kirk. Like pause. Like pause.

1303
01:07:54,570 --> 01:07:56,470
Speaker 2: Like pause. Okay, got you. Pause. I said I went

1304
01:07:56,510 --> 01:07:58,090
Speaker 2: in and had to... We have fun with it.

1305
01:07:58,090 --> 01:07:58,170
Speaker 3: God.

1306
01:07:59,050 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 2: Got you. Got you. No, no.

1307
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,380
Speaker 1: It's not always that. Kirk, don't play balls. It's a

1308
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,740
Speaker 1: lot of different things. Don't play balls, Kirk. You just

1309
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,390
Speaker 1: got to be from... Like, yo, Kirk, the name of

1310
01:08:12,430 --> 01:08:13,390
Speaker 1: the single is.

1311
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 2: This time. This time. Yo, I love that hook. That hook. Do, do, do.

1312
01:08:20,979 --> 01:08:21,500
Speaker 2: All right.

1313
01:08:21,540 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 4: What Fat Joe would have did is I would have

1314
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,820
Speaker 4: repeated that. Y'all play that song again on our way

1315
01:08:26,900 --> 01:08:27,180
Speaker 4: out of here.

1316
01:08:27,220 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: This ain't that. Let me get a shout out to

1317
01:08:29,740 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: the past two kids. Phillip Anthony Mitchell, Charlie Dates, Darius Daniels,

1318
01:08:35,850 --> 01:08:39,170
Speaker 1: Keon Henderson, and Tony Evans.

1319
01:08:40,170 --> 01:08:43,729
Speaker 2: That's right. Salute all you brothers and sisters out there.

1320
01:08:43,750 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 2: Shout out to them. This talk right here. Shout out

1321
01:08:48,300 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 2: to Danielle. Shout out to Matina.