1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Click Pro website has the first Animore up the sideby 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: forty thirty ten five touchdown Joston. There is no off 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: season for your Houston Texans. Game day is every day. No, 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: it's Texans All Exus. Oh yes it is. Hello, Jackson's 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: Mark Vanderbaron, John Harris with you were from the Hunday 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Texans mobile radio studio here tonight, which happens to be 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: located at the studios of Sports Radio six ten. Johnny 8 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: and I heading over after a big meeting today and 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: Brandon Porter as our producer behind the glass and the General. 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: Since it's Thursday and you can set your watch, your calendar, 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: all of your devices to it, Thursday means it's the General. 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: John McClain from the Houston Chronicle appearing on the program General, 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: How are you? I couldn't be better. Thank you for asking, John. 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: I have not talked to you about the draft yet, 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: so this is fun for me. We're gonna have a 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: little quick review here because I know people hear you 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: on Sports RADI sixteen, read your stuff at the Houston Chronicle. 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: But this is Thursday at six. This is the Krem 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: de La Krem, the Entree, the FS Resistance all right, 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: So tell me Davis Mills gets picked early round three, 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: your reaction to the pick at the time, and what 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: do you think in retrospect. I thought they'd take a quarterback. 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: I didn't know if Nickossary I'll do it in the 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: third or fourth round, but they had to have a 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: third one behind to Rod Taylor and Ryan Finley. In fact, 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: it was Davis Mills. At that point there was a 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: second tier of quarterbacks with Kyle Trash, Kellen Man and Mills, 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: and there wasn't any apparent order. And as Mills's sister 29 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: told us, they called him in the second round before 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: any of those three quarterbacks had been taken, and told him, 31 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: if you're there, we're taking you. And he was, and 32 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: they did. And a good friend of mine who works 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: at Oregon in the athletic department and told me about 34 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, way before I knew anything about him. Take 35 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: me immediately said let me tell you this kid can play. 36 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: And so I trust his opinion because he's watches all 37 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: those Pack twelve players. But he's raw. You know, when 38 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: you have as little playing time as he got, he's 39 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: gonna have to have time to develop behind Taylor in 40 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: Finley but I like the fact that he's he's smart, 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: he's got a good size, he's got a good arm. 42 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: He just needs his experience. And I'm guessing over the 43 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: second half of the season they're gonna have to see 44 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: if he can play, because if he's not, if he 45 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: doesn't make the progress that Nick Assario and David Kelly 46 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: and David Culley and Tim Kelly and pet Hamilton think 47 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: that he should, they're gonna have to use that number 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: one pick next year on a quarterback. And I'm writing 49 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: a column for Sunday looking ahead to the quarterbacks for 50 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: next year, particularly the ones who could kind of not 51 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: come out of nowhere but be guys that were not 52 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: talked about being top picks like Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow, 53 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: and Zach Wilson the last three years. But I'm eager 54 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: to see males play. The only thing I wish he 55 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: had was more experienced. Had he gone back for his 56 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: last year of eligibility, he could have been a top 57 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: ten pick. John. It is also my honor to speak 58 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: to you because I've not spoken to you since the draft, 59 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: and you said David Kelly, at one point, I was like, Oh, 60 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: he's thinking TV shows what'd you think about the next 61 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: two picks going offense offense and going wide receiver tight 62 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: end slash pass catcher, Harber, you want to look at it, 63 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 1: going Nico Collins and Brevin Jordan. What'd you think about 64 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: those two picks? John, I thought going into the draft 65 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: that cornerback was a big need and teams always need 66 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: more pass rushers. But they needed a third quarterback, and 67 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: they need a big receiver to play outside. If they 68 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: played tomorrow, who would be the outside receiver? They got 69 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: slot receivers. They got Brandon Cooks who plays outside. But 70 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: in fact that Collins is six to four and I 71 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: think two seventeen and random four for two at Miss Pro. 72 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: They look really good at the Senior year ball. And 73 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: then Pet Hamilton and Ben McDaniels, new coaches on his staff. 74 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: Both were ad Michigan with him, and I guarantee you 75 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: Cassario consulted them to get their opinion, and that's why 76 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: he traded two fours and a five to move back 77 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: in the third round to get him. Now, because he 78 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: opted out, I'm really eager to see how players who 79 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: opted out last season, and if not played since twenty nineteen, 80 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: how they progressed. Are they better over the second half 81 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: of the season. Do they play well as any rookie 82 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: right off the bat, or like a lot of rookies, 83 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: they have to wait till their second year to make progress. 84 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: But you talk about a good position to be in, 85 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: this is it Nico Collins outside? If he makes quick development, 86 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: that guy can play and make play it a lot, 87 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: get in a lot of playing time as a rookie. 88 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: John What about the defensive side of the ball. I 89 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: know they drafted the two players late. We'll see how 90 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: Roy Lopez and Garrett Wallow work out. But now that 91 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: we're done with the draft here, we kind of see 92 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: who's available, and of course more moves will be made 93 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: in all likelihood, knowing Nick Assario as little as we 94 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: do already. But what do you think of that side 95 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: of the football and what they might ultimately look like 96 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. I'm guessing that Cassio put a 97 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: lot of emphasis on what love he smith thought, because 98 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: you love He's been a head coach two times, He's 99 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: participated in a lot of drafts, and he knows what 100 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: he wants on defense, particularly in his front seven. In 101 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: the switch from a three four to a four to three. 102 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: They traded up. You get TCU linebacker Garrett Wallow, and 103 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: he's under size at two twenty eight, But you can 104 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: be under sized in a four to three, especially when 105 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: you're playing the week side if he can run and cover. 106 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: Problem for these rookies. There are thirty seven veteran players here, 107 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: all but one is on a one or two year contract. 108 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: Those guys are going to work as hard as they can, 109 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: give everything they got because they want to get a 110 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: contract extension when a cap comes up next year. So 111 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: it's going to be harder in my mind for a 112 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: rookie to come in and get playing time when you 113 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: have so many new players as a Texans are because 114 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: of Cassarios, signings and trades, and a guy like Willow 115 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: should be a great special teams player. And Roy Lopez 116 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: the defensive tackle. You know, everybody loves the son of 117 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: coaches kids because they work hard, give it everything they've got. 118 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: Line coaches love wrestlers. They love wrestling because those guys 119 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,559 Speaker 1: know how to use their hands, they know how to 120 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: get leverage, stay low, bend their knees. So I'm really 121 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: eager to see how he fits in in the interior 122 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: and the pig that surprised me was Brevin Jordan because 123 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: he looks like Jordan nakeds three year starter, a lot 124 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: of experience, had a really good season playing with Derek 125 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: King Miami, and he's gonna come in here and may players. 126 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: He catch passes all over the field, John, I know 127 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: the answer to this question, at least I think I do. 128 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: I know what my answer would be. Five players drafted 129 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: this year, five players drafted last year. What player from 130 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: last year's draft class do you think is under the 131 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: most scrutiny to step up and be a player this year? Well, 132 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: let's see who are Ross Blacklock by far, he had 133 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: disappointing rookie year. The three to four was not really 134 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: his cup of tea Romeo o'canal mentioning something like that 135 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: the end of the year about scheme fits. So he 136 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: should benefit from playing a four man front where he 137 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: can just get up to field. He doesn't have to 138 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: be responsible for two gaps and grabbing read. And he's 139 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: going into his second year he should make his biggest progress. 140 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: But they need Ross Blackclock to step up, become a starter, 141 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: and him and Charles a Mena who who also should 142 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: benefit for the switch to a four three. I look 143 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: for a menu to be the most improved lineman. But 144 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: Blacklock it's not only do they need him to play, 145 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: but it's what he represents. What does he represent? The 146 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins trade. Everybody talks about David Johnson and DeAndre Hopkins. Well, 147 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: they use that second round pick on Blackclock, and they'd 148 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: be like to be able to look back and say, well, 149 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: maybe that trade wasn't as bad as we thought. You know, 150 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: I'll tell you something I looked up this week because 151 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: I wrote a column today about Watson. Do you know 152 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: the Texans ended up with the most past plays of 153 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: twenty or more yards seventy and Watson didn't have Hopkins, 154 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: he didn't have full or five games. Cops six games, 155 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: and despite a running game that was at the bottom 156 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: of the league, they were first in yards per play. 157 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: So they've got to make up that. And I think 158 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: they'll run the ball a whole lot more. And people 159 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: ask me why didn't they take an offensive lineman. I say, 160 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: they got so many now they don't know what to 161 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: do with them. And I can't even figure out where 162 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: they're all going to play other than the tackles. Let 163 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: me ask you guys a question. Justin Brett center didn't 164 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: play last year recovering from knee surgery, so it's a 165 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: lot to ask him to come in and be the 166 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: instant starter at center. Who's the backup center? Who's the 167 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: competition at center besides Justin Brett? I have said since 168 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: the last offseason and Max Sharping should learn how to 169 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: play center. Well, he got a chance under Bill O'Brien 170 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: a couple of times. Do you think that's possibility. I 171 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: don't know. I just think that if that if it's 172 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: just something to add to the toolbox. Not saying that 173 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: I would do it, no doubt, but I would have 174 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: pulled Max aside and said you this offseason, do everything 175 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: possible to learn your footwork, snaps, whatever you gotta do 176 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: to two hundred snaps a day, two hundred shotgun snaps 177 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: a day. I've said Max Sharping would be a guy 178 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: that I would think about for opportunity behind Justin britt Well. 179 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: Also also general when you look at the Aggies that 180 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: they signed, Yeah, Ray McCallum, they could be interesting. I mean, 181 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: once upon a time Greg Mans did a pretty decent 182 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: job as center for a year when he was thrust 183 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: into action when they drafted Nick Martin and he couldn't 184 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: play because of injury. So you never know how these 185 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: things pan out. Not that you know they're automatic Pro 186 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: bowlers or anything, but adam to the mix and see 187 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: what happens. Right, I think McCollum has a chance to 188 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: make the team as a backup center, unless indeed, James Camping, 189 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: a new offensive line coach, is thinking about moving somebody 190 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: else to center. And but I would think all of 191 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: the four undrafted guys, and I'm not surprised they didn't 192 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: sign more because they got eighty seven players on a 193 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: roster now and they're gonna bring in They're gonna sign 194 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: three more veterans to get to eighty. They got eighty seven, 195 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: three more to get to ninety. And there's a lot 196 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: of veteran free agents out there, like the guy came 197 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: in today who led the Jets and tackles last year. 198 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: What's his name? I can't remember his name and I 199 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: just wrote it. So they're going to bring in three 200 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: more veterans who will provide depth, and you know they 201 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: want him to compete for starting jobs. But a guy 202 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: like column, when you've got a guy at center, coming 203 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: off and knee injuring. And then you've got a couple 204 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: of guys who are backups who have played center but 205 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: have not been regular starters. This is a really good 206 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: spot to make this team, or at worst, I think 207 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: all of them will be. At worst, the guys at 208 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: the bottom will be on the practice squad, But the 209 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: top guys, and I'm guessing Wallow as well, because he's 210 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: gonna be good on special teams, they'll make the roster. 211 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: John what about the running back situation? Who do you 212 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: anticipate just based on what they have right now, what's 213 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: right in front of us, Who leads the team in rushing. 214 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: It looks like it's going to be by committee, and 215 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: Ingram has done some things in this league, no doubt. 216 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: We hope David Johnson stays healthy and contributes. Philip Lindsay 217 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: could be interesting. What do you think when I look 218 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: at the Texans running backs, I see the Patriots that's 219 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: where Casio was for twenty years. That looks to me 220 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: like he's brought in different guys for different roles. David Johnson, 221 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: of course, is a really good receiver. In Philip Lindsay, 222 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: he had a thousand yards his first two years and 223 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: he was hurt last year. Now, mark Ingram, who had 224 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: had a thousand yards and four of the previous five 225 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: years when he got to be third team for the 226 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: Ravens thirteam running backs got to play special teams, so 227 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: he was inactive for he started nine games. But the 228 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: competition is going to be tremendous. And I'm gonna say 229 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: just guessing that it's going to be Johnson and Lindsay 230 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: because if Lindsay's healthy, he can run, he can catch. 231 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: Ingram had fifty second catches one year. So they've got 232 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: three running backs who had been thousand yard rushers who 233 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: can be terrific receivers. John I was doodling a little 234 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: bit today during our meeting during a break, and I 235 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: was looking at the quarterbacks that Texans are gonna face 236 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: this season. There's no doubt. I don't think they doubt. 237 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is probably the best they're gonna face. More 238 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: than likely Josh Allen the next best they're gonna face. 239 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: You would think Seattle Wilson and Josh Allen. Josh Allen. Yeah, 240 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: who's next? John Murray? Do you think it's Kyler Murray 241 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: over Herbert and and See that's the thing, Herbert Stafford. 242 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: They really don't face the murderer's row of quarterback. Now. 243 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: It's not like last year. It's not like last year. 244 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,119 Speaker 1: So you say it's Kyler because Murray has made tremendous 245 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: progress in each of his first two years and the 246 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: things they've done to try to help not just their 247 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: defense but their offense. I think it's Taylor made for 248 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: him to have an even better season this year, and 249 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: so I think they're gonna be really good. Can't wait 250 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: to win. They play the Texans. I wish that the schedule, 251 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: which comes out Wednesday, that they would put the Texans 252 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: opening the season at Arizona, when everybody is gonna be 253 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: really fired up for that first game, and uh, that 254 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: will be what a great way to open it up. 255 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: Nos nfl dot Com said that's the eighth most intriguing 256 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: matchup of all two hundred and fifty six games this 257 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: year from where we sit now, because as the season develops, 258 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: you get these matchups of like eight versus eight, no 259 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. Yeah, but I got that's why 260 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: that that's probably gonna be their only TV game, and 261 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: I think they ought to do it. If not right 262 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: off the bat early in this season. That's gonna be 263 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: so much fun to watch that game. You Yeah, Well, look, 264 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if I want to go 265 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: out to the desert early. You know, I will tell 266 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: you going out there early, there's a good possibility that 267 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: far corner of the end zone they're gonna have those 268 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: cinnamon nuts that are just going NonStop. Yeah, it's such 269 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: a gorgeous smell. I mean, like, I wanted to just 270 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: stay in that corner of the end zone. It was 271 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: my first game though, so I knew I couldn't do it, 272 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: but I yeah, I loved that corner of the end zone. 273 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: Those twenty fourteen preseason opener did not go well. Preseason 274 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: the next game was a lot better. It did not 275 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: go well, John, what about around the division? How are 276 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: the Titans feeling about things? They had another misfire to 277 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: appear as at least with one pick. But what do 278 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: you make of what they were able to do? The 279 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: defending champs taking Caleb Farley in the first round, who 280 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: would have been the best number one corner if he 281 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: hadn't had back surgery in March late March. But the 282 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: doctors checked him out and they think he's good right now. 283 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: He's supposed to be back for the start of the season, 284 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: but he opted out last year, so I'll be surprised 285 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: if he does anything until the second half of the 286 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: season at the earliest. But he's going to turn out 287 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: to be a really good pick. They believe that Isaiah Wilson, 288 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: first round pick last year tackle, he's already out of football. 289 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: But Dylan Rednets from North Dakota State and block for 290 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: Trey Lance. He'll be the starting right tackle. And they 291 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: got another the corner, Elijah Molden from Washington. He's good. 292 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: So they got two corners they need. They needed a 293 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver, tight end, right tackle in corners, and they 294 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: didn't take care of all those needs of course. And 295 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: the guy you're talking about, I guess as Rashad Waver 296 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh having off the field issue. Fourth grond pick. 297 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: They got to be an edge rusher. We'll see if 298 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: anything happens to him. As far as the league, they're investigating. 299 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: But I gave I gave them a B, gave Colts 300 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: B minus, gave the Jaguars and a minus. John with 301 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: the Jaguars and Trevor Lawrence Mark and I have gone 302 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: over this numerous times. I won't tell you exactly what 303 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: Marcus said, but he's not the most confident that Trevor 304 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: Lawrence is going to turn into a dude. Meanwhile, Andre 305 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: Waring myself go the other way. Where do you sit 306 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: on Trevor Lawrence in his prospects in Jacksonville? I think 307 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: Mark is just hoping. Who knows that the guy's the 308 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: best prospects since Andrew law twelve. They gave him a 309 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: running back, He's got James Robinson, now he's got Travis Ctn. 310 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: I thought it was very interesting. Irban Meyer talked about 311 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: Etn being a third down back, which was hilarious. And 312 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: because the kid can play Tyson Campbell a corner in 313 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: the second round, he'll play it. Intrigguing prospects. Walter Little 314 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: offensive tackle for Stanford in Houston. He was hurt in 315 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 1: nineteen and he didn't play last year, so I'm guessing 316 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: it'll take him a little time to get adjusted after 317 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: all that time off, but he's gonna end up starting. 318 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: They have added. You know, it's amazing. I did a 319 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: thing yesterday on the ANFC South how it affects the 320 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: Texans and the Jaguars over the last ten years have 321 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: had seven picks in the top five and the only 322 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: one who will be playing for them this year is 323 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. You talk about some bad drafting, they have 324 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: been pathetic. Well, at least they got something for Ramsey, 325 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: even right, I mean they got something. Oh they got 326 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: two number ones for Ramsey and that South they got 327 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: Travis CTN was from the Rams. But the fact is, 328 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: the guys they drafted, they're not on their team for 329 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: whatever reason. They didn't like playing for them, they didn't 330 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: like the way they were paid. Is all that gonna change? 331 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: Are these guys all of a sudden gonna be happy 332 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: and yes, I want to play for the Jaguars. Are 333 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: they gonna be like those other guys? Give me out 334 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: of town. Maybe playing for Irban Myers gonna be different 335 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: than playing for the other guy. I mean Tom Coughlin, 336 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: I would imagine, you know, he didn't change things from 337 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: what he was doing in the nineties. Seemingly that seemed 338 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: to be a big part of it. So maybe a 339 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: little bit of change a tone at the top will 340 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: help Jacksonville keep guys in Jacksonville. Because I know back 341 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: in the nineties when everybody was kind of on the 342 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin train. People loved playing in Jacksonville, John, So, 343 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it gets back to that. I 344 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: hope it doesn't. I hope it doesn't, but maybe maybe 345 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: some changes with Irby Meyer being there will help. The 346 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: players liked Doug Moron. You know, their problem wasn't with 347 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: Doug Moron. Their problem was they didn't think they were 348 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: paid fairly compensated. You know, they're probably being paid based 349 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: on the team's lack of results. And that twoy seventeen team, 350 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: which had that great defense. It's amazing what happened to 351 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: that team and how they went down the toilet so 352 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: fast because they were just not happy. You know, Gus 353 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: Bradley was in over his head as a head coach 354 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: and they just made some bad decisions. The thing about Meyer, 355 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: if if he's retired twice because of health issues, what 356 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: is the odds that he's going to play the coach 357 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: five years under that contract? You know, he's in the 358 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: NFL now there, I think there's more pressure on the 359 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback NFL head coaches. Even though he is in 360 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: Jacksonville and he's got a great quarterback prospect, I still 361 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: think you know, you worry if you're a fan out there, 362 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: could he be forced to retire a third time because 363 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: of his health? A couple of around the league items 364 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: here in general, what about Aaron Rodgers? Does he stay, 365 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: does he go? What's going to happen? I think Aaron 366 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: Rodgers will be right there. When his agent Dave Dunne 367 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: went there and tried to negotiate a long term extension 368 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: and it didn't work out, it didn't mean the end 369 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: of it. I think I've been listening and reading and watching, 370 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: and I especially want to see what players that used 371 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: to play with him think. You know, Brett Farr thinks 372 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: he's done, but guys who were with him more recently 373 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: than far think it's not a dead issue. And at 374 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: some point he's got to talk because he looks terrible 375 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: wanting a general manager fired. That may be true, and 376 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: it may not be true, but everybody says it is, 377 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: so at some point he's gonna have to come out 378 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: and make a statement. And I think it's Mike Florio 379 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: figured that if he retires, it'll cost him forty four 380 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: million dollars this year, and Jeopardy doesn't play close to 381 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: pay close to that now. He's made two hundred forty 382 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: million from them, so he's obviously not hurting for money. 383 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: But he loves the game. He wants to play into 384 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: his forties. But I don't blame him being irritated that 385 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: they traded up to get Jordan Love after he didn't 386 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: have a great season in twenty nineteen. But maybe that 387 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: motivated him to be in an MVP for the third time. 388 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: I got a text. I didn't tell you this, Mark. 389 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: I got a text with my cousin who lives in 390 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: Green Bay, just out of the blue the other day. 391 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: This kind of shows you where you know sports talk 392 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: radio can take you in some sense. She texts me 393 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: and she says, Hey, they're talking on the radio here 394 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers coming to Houston. What I puff felt 395 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: in my air? And I wrote her back and I said, 396 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: I don't think that's going I don't think that's gonna happen. 397 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: And I want to just throw it to the General 398 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: because I know what I'm about to hear, and it's 399 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: gonna make my day. General, Aaron Rodgers to the Texans. 400 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: That is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Yes, 401 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: thank you, He's not you know, the Texans are rebuilding. 402 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: You know, we all know they're rebuilding, and they're in 403 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback in Rogers situation, who has come one game 404 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: from the Super Bowl the last two years. He doesn't 405 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: want to go to a rebuilding situation. Texans need a 406 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, they've got to Rod Taylor to be their 407 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: placeholder as a starter. Ryan Finley the backup, but they 408 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: know after they saw Davis Mills drafted, he's gonna play 409 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: at some point this year. And when you have a young, 410 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: rebuilding team, you want a young quarterback. General, what about 411 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: the off season program? What can you share with us 412 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: about where it's going. We know the rookies are coming 413 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: in soon. As far as the Texans go, they don't 414 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: have too many rookies to work with. I'm not sure 415 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: how they're going to structure that camp. Probably have some 416 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: tryouts or whatever. But what do you think of the 417 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: off season program until we get to that break at 418 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: the end of June. Well, they also have those first 419 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: year guys coming in, So I'm fired up about the 420 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: rookie camp just to see Davis Mill and that'll be 421 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. You know, there's nothing like a 422 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: quarterback to create a buzz. Especially if you need one, 423 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: and the Texans are going to need one, and it's 424 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: just gotten. That position's got so much attention. I can't 425 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: wait to see him on the field throwing the ball. 426 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: And as far as the rest of it though, tas 427 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: I think Juwan James's situation. He played three games in 428 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, his first year in Denver, blew out his 429 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: knee this year. Last year he opted out. Now he's 430 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: out with achilles. If you're gonna make it, this sounds terrible, 431 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 1: but if teams in the league want to make an 432 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: example out of a player, this is what happens when 433 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: you don't work out at the facility. He would be 434 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: a good one to do it with because he hadn't 435 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: even been with a team too much, and you run 436 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: the risk of that. You know, some players get hurt 437 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: away and the team's pay pay him anyway. If that 438 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: had been Garrett Balls or left tackle, oh yeah, Garrett, 439 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: we'll take good care of you. But James is in 440 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: a terrible situation considering what he's done the last two years. 441 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: That's why the union recommending they stay away. Unless the 442 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: union is going to guarantee that contract, I'd be in 443 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: there and the Texans have had a great turnout. They'd 444 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: show up just to introduce themselves to each other. General. 445 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: What do you have going out to? The Houston Chronicle 446 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: wrote a column yesterday it's on Texas Sports Nation about 447 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: the ANFC South after the draft. Went up right now 448 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: on Watson and resetting the Watson trade situations after the draft. 449 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: And I'm doing one Sunday on the quarterbacks to look 450 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: at for next season. Got two podcasts up there, TV 451 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: show snippets, We got other columns. Everything you guys want 452 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: to know, just like you guys do on Houston Texans 453 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: dot com. 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I 488 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: have really taken to go to YouTube and watch watch 489 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: cooking shows, watch cooking snippets like what they're cooking. I mean, 490 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,120 Speaker 1: I folow to learn or just to watch to learn, 491 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: to watch, to be inspired to watch anything. Yeah, pol equipment. 492 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this. I posted this 493 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: on Twitter the other day. I've got it. I got 494 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: a new outdoor pizza oven. It's called Uni Pizza Oven. 495 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: It's for twelve inch pizza. I'll show you my I'll 496 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: show you the picture. Homemade. I did it. I did 497 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: everything I am. Okay, so that's the first one. So yeah, 498 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: that's right. Okay, it's not quite a round pizza. So 499 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: did you come on? I can't. I mean, yeah, it's 500 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: not oval either. It's I don't know what shape that, 501 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: but it gives it sort of a rustic it does, 502 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: it does, I did, I did everything. It looks delicious. 503 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: It makes me want to become a master. What's a 504 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: few weeks in? What's the place we go to? It 505 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: the Greenbrier to get pizza, and then Hill and Holler. 506 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: That's pretty good, but better than Hill and Holler. I'm 507 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: telling you, Okay, it's very good. The most important thing. 508 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: I'll get to that later. We'll save it. Okay, we're 509 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: gonna play who's better right now on a Thursday. I 510 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: switched it. We played More Likely to happen on Tuesday. 511 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: Now we have Who's better on Thursday? The world is confused. Yeah, yeah, 512 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: Well we're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. Are 513 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: you ready? Let's go? All right? Who's better quarterback combination? 514 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: Rookie and Vet, Mac and Cam Okay in New England 515 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: or Trey Lance and Jimmy g in San Francisco. Who's 516 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: better as a quarterback combo? There? Wow? I love Trey 517 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: Lance well over Mac, but I like Cam over Jimmy, 518 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: and both Cam and Jimmy are kind of banged up. 519 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go a healthy Cam healthy non COVID CAM 520 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: in twenty one for this Who's better? And it's an 521 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: odd year, so that means Jimmy's playing seventeen games. Oh 522 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: something we gotta get used to saying he played all 523 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: season sixteen games. No, all season will be seventeen. He 524 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: didn't play the whole season. Yeah, but he was healthy 525 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: for the whole year. Yeah, he was, but he didn't 526 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: play the whole year. He got traded during that year, right, 527 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, that he was electric, he was six. 528 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 1: He was awesome for six games and then towards ACL 529 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: early in eighteen. Anyways, I'll go to San Franciscogo Jimmy 530 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: g and and trade Lance because I just like Trade 531 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: that much more. I like Mac. How about Minshee and Lawrence? 532 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: I mean Lawrence starts week one? We've got over this. 533 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean that's a I mean Lawrence and Minshew. That 534 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: should be a buddy buddy cop drama, you know, like 535 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: Starsky and Hunch and Hunch with that hair and then 536 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: show's attitude and Minshew's offseason photos. Somebody tweeted, he's he's 537 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: achieved full not consciousness. What was it full? Minshew? Yeah? Full? 538 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: He was full? Menshew. The shirt was open. This Mintshow's 539 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: gonna come in during a game in which in which 540 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: Trevor gets banged up. He's gonna Trevor's gonna get a concussion. 541 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: We were running somewhere and Mitchi's gonna come in and 542 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna save the Jags somehow, some way, And that's 543 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: just gonna be his that's gonna be his calling cards 544 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: from now and he's gonna be kind of the closer 545 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: when they need it, like a Jaguar sort of version 546 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: of TJ Yates in a way. Yes, although let's not 547 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: do that to TJ. Because TJ won. TJ's got some 548 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: pelts on the wall. Playoff game Monday Night Football brought 549 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: the plane in for a landing in twenty eleven, got 550 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: him to the postseason. It was awesome, all right, next 551 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: two is better. Well, we have Urban Meyer in the 552 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: league now. We were talking about him in the last 553 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: segment with the General John McClain. Who's a better college 554 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: football coach? Urban Meyer or Dabbos Sweeney better college football coach? 555 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: Urban's a better coach, But I think by the end 556 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: Dabbo became a better recruiter. Okay, And so I think 557 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: there was a period where Clemson was getting a little 558 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: bit more, a little bit more talent. They matched up 559 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: a couple of times. You Ohio States team beat him 560 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: this year and that people say, oh that was Ryan Day. 561 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: Those are all Urban recruits. Urban recruited all those guys 562 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: for the most part. When they met in the semi 563 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: final the year before, Ohio State was smoking them, smoking them, 564 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: and then Sean Way got tossed on the sack, I 565 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: think called for targeting and the game changed. At that point, 566 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: Clepson got some momentum ended up winning that game. So 567 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: straight up, I think I think Ohio State has been 568 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: the better, just straight up head to head matchup. I 569 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: think of how State has been better. I just have 570 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: always felt like Urban Meyer if I gotta win one game. 571 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest Urban Meyer fan the way he's 572 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: gone about his business over the years, but you're gonna 573 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: pick him. I'm picking her, and I love dab Bo Bob. 574 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm picking her going that game. Okay, all right, So 575 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: sticking to this theme, sort of college coach turned NFL coach, 576 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: this is a projection. Okay, who's better? Who will be better? 577 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: Who will be better? Overall? Matt Rule or Urban Meyer 578 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: college coach turned NFL coach. That's a good one. I mean, yeah, 579 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: it's hard to say that it'll be urban Now Carolina 580 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: is still not really settled at the quarterback position. Jacksonville 581 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: has one. We think, you know how I feel. It's 582 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: not done until it's done. Baby. He might be the 583 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: number one overall pick and the best prospects since Andrew Luck, 584 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: but he has to play like Andrew Luck to prove it. 585 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: I am a huge Matt Rule fan. Everything about Matt Rule. 586 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: I love the fact that he was handed what he 587 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: was handed at Baylor. Now he took the job, but 588 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: what he was handed at Baylor after everything they went down, 589 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: after Art Briles left. Yeah, he's got a one to 590 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: eleven team and was being interviewed for NFL head coaching 591 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: jobs after that. It was like, the NFL respects this guy, 592 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: so you knew it wasn't gonna be long at Baylor. 593 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: And then he gets the opportunity to go to Carolina, 594 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: gets seven year deal, so you know, Carolina respects the 595 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: heck out of him. I just think the fact that 596 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: he was able to win any games last year having 597 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: never met any of the players on his team until 598 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: they walked in for training camp. I think it's fascinating. 599 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: I think Matt Rule is gonna get it going there, Caroline. 600 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: But he doesn't have his guy yet. He doesn't have 601 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: that guy quarterback, and I think that's gonna I mean, Sam, 602 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm here. I do think there's something left for Sam. 603 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: I still think there's something there, and I hope that 604 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: Joe Brady gets out of him because I do think 605 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: Matt Rule would end up being that guy. Here's the 606 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: other aspect. I think that Matt Rule would be better 607 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: able to handle the ups and downs of a regular 608 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: season which you're winning seventeen games, because he's been one 609 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: in eleven or whatever. He's been there, he's dealt with 610 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: adversity or Mars. Whenever adversity is hit, he's like, I'm done, 611 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm retiring. I mean, bows are going to feel about 612 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: the preseason games, never mind getting into regular seasons stress 613 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: and strife. Seventeen games schedule, that's where he's gonna really 614 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: have to rely on. You know, Trent Balkis GM. You 615 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: know he's been there, not not just in Jacksonville, but 616 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: just in the NFL. But here's the thing. He went out, 617 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: he got Charlie Strong to be his one of his linebackers. Coach. 618 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: Charlie was a college Yeah, so he got Brian Schottenheimer, 619 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: he's got he's got shot him, He's got Darryl Bevil, 620 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 1: so he's got a couple guys around him. But might 621 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: be it might be a situation in which he's sit 622 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: in the panic button earlier than he probably should, and 623 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: that's when coaches are gonna help him. You'd think when 624 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: you're wired a certain way, it doesn't matter who's around you. 625 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: You're wired. You're wired that particular way. And I think 626 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: Urban's wired in such a way that that losing doesn't 627 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: turn around fast enough for him, he may not be 628 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: long for any NFL job. I think Matt Rule has 629 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: been there, He's turned things around. He knows what it 630 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: takes in the NFL to get it turned around. I 631 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: think Carolina is going to be a team that if 632 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: Sam is right, then it happens sooner than later. But 633 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: if Sam isn't and they gotta go get one in 634 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 1: the draft, then it may take a little bit longer. 635 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: But I trust Matt Rule to be able to handle 636 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: the ups and down to be NFL coach Before Urban 637 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: the Texans faced both coaches this year, and you vote 638 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: for Carolina to be your opening day opponent. That's John said. Vote. 639 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: I think you did. I did because you want I 640 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: wanted to see Santa Arnold first. Yes, yes, I'm all, 641 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm all about that. Let's I think that's a pretty 642 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: good choice right there. Who's better? Let's stay in the 643 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: division here or go in the division or whatever you 644 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: want to call it. Tennessee or Indie. Now, I know 645 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: Tennessee is the defending champion and Indy breaks in Carson 646 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: Wentz at quarterback, but indeed improving question mark? Do they 647 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,479 Speaker 1: have what it takes to challenge Tennessee and upend them. Yes. 648 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: The interesting thing about these two teams last year when 649 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: they met in Tennessee, Indianapolis was on a little bit 650 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: of a roll and just spank them. I mean it 651 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: was like wow. I mean it was like eye opening, 652 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: like holy cow, Tennessee had I think I think Tennessee 653 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: had beaten us and it was close. But then you 654 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: see Indianapolis and I remember I texted you him like, 655 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: holy cown. Do you did you see that indian just 656 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: did to Tennis. That was after the overtime game Nashville. Yeah, 657 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: it was. I don't know if it was directly after, 658 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: but it was in and around the same time, and 659 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, holy cow. Well then when it flipped and 660 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: it went back to Indianapolis. The week before we played 661 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: him here, played Annapolis here, they played up in Tennessee, 662 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 1: and Tennessee just ran rough shot. Now Indianapolis they missed 663 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: like three or four guys, key guys, Buckner being one 664 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: of them. Buckner then came back for our game and 665 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: that made a huge difference. I think Indianapolis is primed 666 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: to take over that. I think Indianapolis is better than 667 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: Tennessee just across the wild ward. I think they're better 668 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: than Tennessee. Wentz the Carson Wentz and that that worries me. 669 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: That that worries me. However, I've watched I'm sure you 670 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 1: have to Indianapolis Colts. They're they're, you know, ours building 671 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: the Texas is building the Texans. There's is with the 672 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: next pick creating the Colts. They did a whole episode 673 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: on Carson and how he got to Indianapolis, and really 674 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: it was about Frank Reiche. It was all about Frank 675 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: and the trust that they have in one another. If 676 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: things start going a little bit south, that's going to 677 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: be dicey, very very very dicey. But if Carson is 678 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: on the straight and narrow, I think you end up 679 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: having a better team in Indianapolis across the board. And 680 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: also because they've drafted better lately. Tennessee's draft last year 681 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: was got awful. Oh it was terrible. And this one 682 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: I think it could go the other direction for Tennessee. 683 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: But it's only it will only be one year in. 684 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: I think Indianapolis, for the most part of it's drafted 685 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: pretty well since Chris has been there, and I think 686 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: that's made a big difference on that team. All Right, 687 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: the most important thing, I'm gonna tell you what that is. Okay, next, Yeah, 688 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,720 Speaker 1: Also non football related, I have the toughest Who's Better 689 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,959 Speaker 1: What's better? Ever? Ever? Ever, toughest one ever. It's coming 690 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: out on Texans Radio. For the most in depth coverage 691 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: of your favorite team and players. Check out Houston Texans 692 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: dot com. Ashley Home Store's lowest prices of the season 693 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: are here. Shop some of our best sellers at their 694 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: lowest prices. Find Sofast dining sets and more. 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Okay, let's do the most important thing 704 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,720 Speaker 1: first that I'll give you the hardest Who's better every Okay, 705 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: we're running out of time here in Brandon Porters like 706 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: you guys, gotta get to its point, all right, So 707 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: the most important thing is this. And I don't care 708 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,919 Speaker 1: who's playing quarterback. I really don't. I mean I do care, 709 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: but yeah, this is the most important thing. And McLean 710 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: was talking about it earlier. They led the league and 711 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: you know in this and that and on offense and 712 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: yards per play and the big plays and all that. 713 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: And look, they didn't draft anybody on the offensive line, 714 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: but they did sign reportedly the two guys from Texas 715 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: A and M. We'll see how it goes but the 716 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: ability to run the football is the most important thing. 717 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: The guys up front, the guy's carrying the rock, no 718 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: matter who the quarterback is, because look at last year, 719 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: look at what the struggle was. Extra stress on the defense, 720 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: because even though you have all those sexy stats and 721 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: yards per play and everything and yards per tenth and 722 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: leading the league in passing yards, you gotta sustained drives. 723 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: You've got to be able to run the football in 724 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: this league to be successful. I mean, you know, look, 725 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: if you've got to lights out defense and you're getting takeaways, okay, 726 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna be okay, all right, But they didn't get takeaways, 727 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 1: so yeah, that is crucial. But I still say, Johnny, 728 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: the most important thing the big guys up front the 729 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: ability to run the rock. And that's look, we won't 730 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: know it till we see it, but they gotta feel 731 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: like we're feeling better about it than what you saw 732 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: on tape last year. That dimension of it, you know, 733 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 1: the rest of it we could talk about later, but 734 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: that dimension of it, I think that it has you know, 735 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna say it has to be addressed. They 736 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: have addressed it, you know, Cannon Britt, that kind of thing, 737 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes, because it's crucial to be 738 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: able to do that. It's like a picture. You know, 739 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: a pitcher's got three pitches, fastball, curveball, slider, and all 740 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: of a sudden, curveball is not working right, and you 741 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,919 Speaker 1: got a fastball slide. That's it. That's all you got. 742 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: And teams know that's all and hitters know that's all 743 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: you've got. You're trouble. You're in trouble. So if you 744 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: get the curveball back and now you got all three work, 745 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: and you're like, whoa, okay, And I know you're not saying, hey, 746 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: they've got to be the number one team in the 747 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: league rushing. Yeah, that's not what you're saying. But they've 748 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: got to be able to go to the curveball. They 749 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: got to be able to reach back and find it 750 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: when it doesn't look like it's there. They don't have 751 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: to be the Browns with Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt. 752 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: They don't have to be the Browns, but they've got 753 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: to be able to when they reach back for it, 754 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: it's there that they can rely on it when they 755 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: need to take some some heat off the passing game 756 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: and and some of those things. I think right there 757 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: with you. If you run the ball better, much better. 758 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 1: I mean, anything you do running the ball is gonna 759 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: be better than you did last year. Yeah, you got 760 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: to turn teams over. Right, you've got another top teams 761 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: over and obviously necessary. Are you ready for the toughest two? 762 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: Is better or ever? Okay? This is that one. I mean, 763 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: turnovers or running the ball. What's what's better? What's better? Right? Right? Right? No, right, okay, 764 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: but this is a non football one. Okay, this is 765 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: the toughest one ever. What's better Tex mex or barbecue. 766 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: Don't do that to me. This is choosing between children, 767 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 1: not right, This is awful, what an awful choice? That's 768 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: not right because they're both so good. So you, by 769 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: the way, yeah, I have to blame for this. So 770 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,439 Speaker 1: last week you come in here and you've got these 771 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: these tacos. Yeah, and so I mentioned to my my 772 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: son how good they are. So wakes up Sunday like, back, 773 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: will you get tacos? Like, h see what did that place? 774 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: So he tries Barbecoa tacos for the first time, like 775 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 1: that's it, it's over, it's over. He's I love the 776 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: fact that he's grown up here like me. He he 777 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: probably has had more tacos in his you know, twenty 778 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: one years or whatever it is, um versus how many 779 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: I've had. But yeah, after that, it was just like, see, 780 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 1: I love it when they mix, like the barbecue and 781 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: the text max. Yeah, I'm cool with a blend. And 782 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: some people are listening saying, well, that's why they call 783 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: it text mache. But it doesn't really work out that 784 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: way all the time, does it. Now. I have always 785 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: been I've always been barbecue, but because my daughter's vegan, 786 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: oh boy, barbecue is tough, and my wife doesn't love barbecue. 787 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: So the text mex pleases everybody. Yeah, the tex Mex 788 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: kind of pleases everybody, and so we try and get 789 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: as creative as we can with that. But you can 790 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: put a shoe on a homemade tortilla. I'd be fine 791 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: with it. I would. I would be fine with it. 792 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: But I love when we get on the road and 793 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: we could try out the different barbecue. I remember when 794 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: I met my in laws the very first time, they 795 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,879 Speaker 1: got all excited knowing I was from Texas, and they're like, oh, 796 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna have barbecue for you know, rehearsal 797 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 1: dinner and I'm like, I was so excited. Yeah, because 798 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: we didn't really have it in part of the country. 799 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: Was this North Carolina, Eastern North Carolina. So it's the 800 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: vinegar basse. It's different. I'm just like, yo, this is 801 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 1: where the way, where's my brisket? Y'all forgot the brisket 802 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: with his barbecue. Man. But I'll tell you what I grew. 803 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: I grew to really like it. Yeah, I really liked it. 804 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: When we would go to beaches in North Carolina, we 805 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: would get that bar Oh my goodness, so good. So 806 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: I would go text Mex now, but it was just me, 807 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: I'm probably good barbecue. Yeah, I think barbecue. I think 808 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: I can sustain myself on more. And I think barbecue 809 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 1: is running the football. So there and text Mex is 810 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: getting turnovers. Maybe, well, we'll revisit both to the table 811 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: and you got a winner another two time, another time, 812 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 1: we'll go over that. Uh So tomorrow we get another 813 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: show six to seven Friday night, Texans All Access. We 814 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: have Texans three sixty, which is a rerun but a 815 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: tweaked version of the draft. Specially, You've got a call 816 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: Saturday night at eleven o'clock. It's gonna be awesome. 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