Speaker 1: Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of iHeartRadio. Good Morning,
Speaker 1: This is Laura, Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. Today's
Speaker 1: episode is going to be a longer one part of
Speaker 1: the series where I interview fascinating people about how they
Speaker 1: take their days from great to awesome and any advice
Speaker 1: they have for the rest of us. So today I
Speaker 1: am delighted to welcome Christine Co to Before Breakfast. Christine
Speaker 1: is the host of the Edit Your Life podcast, along
Speaker 1: with numerous other projects. So Christine, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Hello Laura, I'm so happy to be recording with you today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm happy to have you here. Well, why don't
Speaker 1: you tell our listeners a little bit about yourself?
Speaker 2: Okay, the top line is, in my previous life, I
Speaker 2: was a music and brain scientist. I have a PhD
Speaker 2: in that field. That was a long time ago, and
Speaker 2: whenever people asked me to drop neuroscience information, I'm kind
Speaker 2: of like my training is a little outdated. But about
Speaker 2: twenty years ago I left the field and just wanted
Speaker 2: to create more independent, creative, flexible ventures and I started
Speaker 2: in the wild world of the internet with a personal
Speaker 2: blog and over the years, my various iterations have included
Speaker 2: a published book, a couple of podcasts, a very robust
Speaker 2: creative consulting consultancy. I work as a creative director and
Speaker 2: storytelling expert, and so I just do a lot of things,
Speaker 2: and I have a couple substack newsletters now. And I've
Speaker 2: just always loved, you know, problem solving, helping people solve problems,
Speaker 2: and you know, trying to disrupt this kind of perfect
Speaker 2: lifestyle narrative with just how we all get things done.
Speaker 2: And I think that's why you and I aligned so well,
Speaker 2: is we're just both really committed to helping people figure
Speaker 2: out ways to do things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, take our days from great to awesome, as we
Speaker 1: always say around here. So your podcast is called Edit
Speaker 1: your Life. What does it mean to edit your life?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think in general there's a lot of content
Speaker 2: about decluttering, which of course is covered on the show.
Speaker 2: But to me, editing your Life is about really addressing
Speaker 2: well first, noticing the different pain points, stressers, areas of discontent,
Speaker 2: whatever they may be in your life, and figuring out
Speaker 2: how to edit those things out so you have more
Speaker 2: room to do the things you care about, make days
Speaker 2: more awesome, all of those things, because honestly, we all
Speaker 2: deserve it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So well, I want to hear about how Christine
Speaker 1: edits her life. So I am hoping you can talk
Speaker 1: about some any routines you have right now in your
Speaker 1: life that are serving you and making life better.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, my approach, especially in the last few years,
Speaker 2: perhaps sparked by the pandemic, perhaps just sparked by who
Speaker 2: I am in this current phase of my life, has
Speaker 2: really been all about micro So what are the little
Speaker 2: levers we can pull in our day to day lives
Speaker 2: in order to insert a little more joy, find some ease,
Speaker 2: some relief, calmer nervous systems, any of those things. And
Speaker 2: because all of us are under a lot of stress
Speaker 2: these days and we just need more touch points with joy,
Speaker 2: we just we deserve that too, right, So I think
Speaker 2: I mean just to think about Literally before breakfast this morning,
Speaker 2: I decided instead of I really do try to start
Speaker 2: my day by not scrolling. So if I have a
Speaker 2: great book with me, that's like my usual first choice.
Speaker 2: But this weekend I cracked open a brand new per
Speaker 2: puzzle that I received from my birthday. So I started
Speaker 2: my morning at like six in the morning laying out
Speaker 2: a few puzzle pieces, putting them together while I sipped
Speaker 2: my coffee, and it was like ten minutes before I
Speaker 2: started doing the things like making lunch and whatever else.
Speaker 2: But those little moments that I inst in my days
Speaker 2: are proving to be really powerful for my general well being.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have a usual morning routine? I mean,
Speaker 1: is do you normally start your days with something like that?
Speaker 1: Or I wonder if you can talk us through that.
Speaker 2: Sure? Sure, Well I don't have as many children as you.
Speaker 2: I have two. One is out of the house, she's
Speaker 2: a college senior, and the other is a high school freshman.
Speaker 2: So like many parents during the school year, we have
Speaker 2: the routine of, you know, getting everybody up. We you know,
Speaker 2: I do my little practice with my puzzle or my books,
Speaker 2: and we all relax a little bit, and then it's
Speaker 2: kicking into gear with helping our kid out the door
Speaker 2: to school. She actually leaves pretty early at like seven
Speaker 2: am for the bus because that's just how things roll
Speaker 2: around here. And then I usually walk the dog with
Speaker 2: my husband or I do I do these growing strength
Speaker 2: classes like one or three times a week, which is
Speaker 2: really nice, and I kind of do all that stuff
Speaker 2: before I kick off my workday, so it's a lot
Speaker 2: of nice. I'm realizing kind of personal touch points with
Speaker 2: my family and my dog before I get rolling for
Speaker 2: the day, which is you know, I'm sort of in
Speaker 2: my office cave hammering away for a full day. So
Speaker 2: it's a nice way to start the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Is there anything you've stopped doing? I mean, as
Speaker 1: we talk about editing your life, is there anything in
Speaker 1: recent years that you have stopped doing in order to
Speaker 1: make life work better? Yeah?
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I mean, I think if we
Speaker 2: zoom out big picture, you know, the calendar and time
Speaker 2: is always a big pain point for people. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know that you help people autit their time all,
Speaker 2: you know, on the regular. So I think that I've
Speaker 2: really made a conscious practice of regarding any inbound invitations
Speaker 2: I get, you know, through my work, I get a
Speaker 2: lot of invitations to things. I'm always looking at it
Speaker 2: with a lens of do I really want to do this?
Speaker 2: Is this values consistent? Is this something that makes me
Speaker 2: feel sort of grumpy and resentful? Or do I feel
Speaker 2: joyful and excited about it? So I've really this is
Speaker 2: kind of a longer answer, but like over a greater
Speaker 2: body of time, maybe five to ten years, really worked
Speaker 2: on listening to that gut reaction so that I can
Speaker 2: easily just say no to the stuff immediately for things
Speaker 2: that I don't want to do, because I think it
Speaker 2: just people often struggle with saying no to things or
Speaker 2: declining things. And one thing I've realized and a practice
Speaker 2: I put into place a long time ago, was what
Speaker 2: I call a graceful decline, where I just say no,
Speaker 2: thank you, I can't make it, and I don't try
Speaker 2: to make excuses. And I think doing more of that,
Speaker 2: and so, you know, saying no to things that I
Speaker 2: really don't want to do has created a lot more
Speaker 2: space in my life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why don't you think people do that.
Speaker 2: That they struggle to do that? I think it's because
Speaker 2: what I've found in the years of talking to people
Speaker 2: about it is people want they don't want to hurt
Speaker 2: other people's feelings, or they don't want to lie. That's
Speaker 2: usually the thing. They don't want to have to make
Speaker 2: up an excuse. And so that's why I say, just
Speaker 2: don't make up an excuse, just decline gracefully, and that's it.
Speaker 2: And I find that that works really really well. People
Speaker 2: don't usually come back and say, well, why aren't you
Speaker 2: going to come to my thing, and.
Speaker 1: Earth has yet to crash into the sun as a
Speaker 1: result as well. All as well, all as well for
Speaker 1: share All right, Well, We're going to take a quick
Speaker 1: ad break and then I will be back with more
Speaker 1: from Christine co. Well, I am back talking with Christine
Speaker 1: Coe as the host if You Edit Your Life podcast,
Speaker 1: along with numerous other projects. So Christine, let's talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about planning, because I know that how you
Speaker 1: approach planning might be helpful for some people who are
Speaker 1: listening to this.
Speaker 2: Yes, I love planning, and I have like the vision
Speaker 2: of who I would like to be, which might be
Speaker 2: somebody like Sarah Hardung with like a nice notebook and
Speaker 2: some cool pens and whatever else. But I'm not that person.
Speaker 2: My handwriting is terrible, so I do. I want to
Speaker 2: encourage people to always find a system that works best
Speaker 2: for you, otherwise you're never going to use it. So
Speaker 2: I am weed to to do app. I use to dost.
Speaker 2: There's a free version, but I use the paid version
Speaker 2: because I like that you can, you know, link Google
Speaker 2: docs and do a bunch of other things that make
Speaker 2: the mental load of finding what you need much easier.
Speaker 2: So I like to do a kind of plan a
Speaker 2: two levels. One is the weekly level, where I do
Speaker 2: a weekly look ahead. It's usually on Friday, but I'll
Speaker 2: check in on it on Sunday just to make sure
Speaker 2: things are holding, in which I kind of look at
Speaker 2: my schedule see how busy it is. That's actually a
Speaker 2: point at which I kind of do my like what
Speaker 2: I call Goldilocks assessment of the week. You know, so
Speaker 2: if things look good, great, If things look a little
Speaker 2: boring or empty, I'll be like, oh, well, I have
Speaker 2: a lot of freedom this week. This would be the
Speaker 2: perfect time to try to schedule a catch up coffee
Speaker 2: with a friend. Or if things are too busy, if
Speaker 2: there's stuff that is really negotiable that I could move,
Speaker 2: I might try to move some things around, because I know,
Speaker 2: for myself and my personal work style, being back to
Speaker 2: back in meetings during days is tough because then I
Speaker 2: don't feel like I can actually do the work to
Speaker 2: do other things. So I'll do the weekly touch point
Speaker 2: on Fridays, and then every morning I pretty much start
Speaker 2: my day looking at that to do list and identifying
Speaker 2: this sort of top priority items for the day. Because
Speaker 2: it's important to note that for me and my particular
Speaker 2: mental load style, and also because I'm running a number
Speaker 2: of different projects and clients at the same time, i
Speaker 2: go super granular with my to do list, and I'll
Speaker 2: break out specific tasks, probably to a level that some
Speaker 2: people might feel as a little too granular, but for me,
Speaker 2: I need that because then I know, okay, I did
Speaker 2: that thing. Now I can move on to the next thing.
Speaker 2: So doing the day look ahead is really important because
Speaker 2: I literally flag in red into dost what are the
Speaker 2: absolute top priority items, so I don't lose track of things,
Speaker 2: you know, in my longer.
Speaker 1: Lif And when you're talking very granular, can you give
Speaker 1: an example of how granular these things are?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean from actually for a podcast example, which
Speaker 2: would be good because, as you know, there are a
Speaker 2: lot of moving pieces. I usually do podcast production on Friday,
Speaker 2: but I'll literally break out as separate tasks. You know,
Speaker 2: listen to the sound files, create you know, cover art,
Speaker 2: write show notes, what else is there? You know, schedule
Speaker 2: to megaphone in certain timestamps. I'm like breaking all of
Speaker 2: those little steps, which helps me not forget anything too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know. That's always always helpful. And then
Speaker 1: how do you actually organize your workday? Then I mean,
Speaker 1: because you say you have multiple projects, do you aim
Speaker 1: to do like all for one client on one day.
Speaker 1: Are you always doing a certain kind of work in
Speaker 1: the morning or is there some sort of structure that
Speaker 1: you generally go with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I definitely am a person who's I call
Speaker 2: them the golden hours. I think that's a phrase that
Speaker 2: you also use. And my golden hours for work and
Speaker 2: creativity and productivity are is definitely the more arning. And
Speaker 2: so late afternoon is when I'm really slumping. I don't
Speaker 2: think that's unusual. So I usually try to round robin
Speaker 2: on my clients in the morning, you know, after I've
Speaker 2: gone out and walk the dog or gone to an
Speaker 2: exercise class and I feel like I'm ready to sit down,
Speaker 2: I'll round robin through those. Pretty much. I need to
Speaker 2: touch everything every day, and then in the later afternoon
Speaker 2: I can work on things like podcast production or writing
Speaker 2: or thing or graphic design, things that still require my
Speaker 2: brain but aren't as intense. So that's usually how I
Speaker 2: batch it, and it kind of all works around meetings
Speaker 2: and things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and do you have anything that helps you get
Speaker 1: better ideas?
Speaker 2: Better ideas? Can I make a confession and say that
Speaker 2: I have yet to use chat, GPT or any kind
Speaker 2: of way. That's all right, I've not.
Speaker 1: I don't really use it either, so I made again
Speaker 1: welcome to the club.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I just feel like I'm, like, you know,
Speaker 2: sitting under a rock. Everybody seems to use it. I
Speaker 2: just haven't. I think I'm kind of an old school
Speaker 2: Reave that way. I do think that really good ideas
Speaker 2: come when you're not sitting in front of a computer.
Speaker 2: So oftentimes I'll and the only tricky thing is I
Speaker 2: when I go for walks and things, I like to
Speaker 2: not bring my phone so I can just kind of
Speaker 2: like be free and bilateral and not be listening to
Speaker 2: anything and just be outside in the elements. But I
Speaker 2: do find that I tend to have a lot of
Speaker 2: good ideas popping when I'm walking around. So sometimes, you know,
Speaker 2: I will either literally bring a piece of paper in
Speaker 2: a pen with me on my walk, or if I
Speaker 2: have my phone, I can dictate into it to jot
Speaker 2: those ideas down.
Speaker 1: Okay, So an ideal walk is what we're for you absolutely,
Speaker 1: And then I wonder, you know, we always love to
Speaker 1: hear people's various time management strategies and any general productivity strategies.
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's any you've used in the past
Speaker 1: few days that have been helpful to you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean I think that one thing that I've been
Speaker 2: using for a very long time, I haven't needed it
Speaker 2: yet in the last week because i haven't had anything
Speaker 2: like terribly onerous. But I'm a big believer in do
Speaker 2: your hardest thing first, because I think that sometimes tasks
Speaker 2: that don't actually take a lot of time but carry
Speaker 2: some emotional burden or some weight or some dread because
Speaker 2: you don't want to lie about saying no to something
Speaker 2: can be a struggle. So I sometimes will do identify,
Speaker 2: like or give myself fifteen minutes at the beginning of
Speaker 2: a workday to just power through some of that you know,
Speaker 2: kind of dreaded albatross adulting type flavor of to do's
Speaker 2: that really need to get done and just bust through them,
Speaker 2: and it's so satisfying and relieving for the rest of
Speaker 2: the day. And I really I know this is in
Speaker 2: line with you and Sarah as well, but I really
Speaker 2: do advocate for those check ins and figuring out looking
Speaker 2: at your weekly sort of scope and what you want
Speaker 2: to get done during the day. And not just from
Speaker 2: a word perspective, but also like, you know, what do
Speaker 2: I as human Christine co like person who needs like
Speaker 2: love and nurturing in the world, Like what do I
Speaker 2: need this week? So I think that's another important thing
Speaker 2: that I think. I'm not sure it's as common in
Speaker 2: productivity talks, but I think that we are more productive
Speaker 2: if we also are nurturing all the sides of ourselves.
Speaker 1: Absolutely I agree with that. Is there anything you have
Speaker 1: tried that hasn't worked for you.
Speaker 2: Tribe that hasn't worked?
Speaker 1: Not lately?
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty creature of habit these days with
Speaker 2: the things that I enjoy doing. Yeah, I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't think so though.
Speaker 1: Just checking. Christine likes to try things out and they
Speaker 1: often some element to them will will work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure there's something that I'm forgetting, But I
Speaker 2: mean I will say there's one thing that I think
Speaker 2: it's important to know, like to be curious, but also
Speaker 2: kind of know your limits. So I mentioned and earlier
Speaker 2: my handwriting is really bad, and I've always wanted to
Speaker 2: be a journaling type person, and I just I couldn't.
Speaker 2: It was a real block for me, and so I
Speaker 2: started doing a micro journaling practice where I literally write
Speaker 2: one or two sentences every day, and that has been
Speaker 2: pretty powerful. But I'm positive that if I had set
Speaker 2: myself up and said, Okay, I'm going to do fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes of journaling every day, I'm pretty sure that wouldn't
Speaker 2: have worked out. So I think part of you know,
Speaker 2: experimenting with things is also knowing where your points of
Speaker 2: falling off are.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that because, yeah, well I set yourself
Speaker 1: up to fail if it's if you know it's not
Speaker 1: a strength, then that apparently writing two sentences, even if
Speaker 1: your handwriting is not wonderful, can still be accomplished.
Speaker 2: Right, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're going to take one more quick
Speaker 1: ad break and then I'll be back with more from
Speaker 1: Christine co. Well, I am back talking with Christine Coe,
Speaker 1: who is the of the Edit Your Life podcast. You
Speaker 1: also mentioned you had a couple of substack newsletters. Can
Speaker 1: you tell us a little bit about this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love substack as and you're grade at substack too.
Speaker 2: It's been so fun. My first substack is a personal one.
Speaker 2: It's called There's Always a Story. I started that one
Speaker 2: while I've written close to one hundred and fifty posts,
Speaker 2: so maybe it's been two years or something, and that
Speaker 2: one is kind of longer form. I would say it
Speaker 2: can be anything from photo recaps and very food oriented
Speaker 2: to deeper reflection pieces on work and parenting and lifestyle.
Speaker 2: I think it was a real healing place when I
Speaker 2: was transitioning out of a very toxic work situation a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago into being fully on my own
Speaker 2: as a business person. So I love that space. And
Speaker 2: then just recently, like literally in the last month, I
Speaker 2: started a second substack for the Edit Your Life podcast.
Speaker 2: So some may say that was a long time I'm
Speaker 2: kept coming since Edit your Life has been around for
Speaker 2: a decade, but you know, good things take time, and
Speaker 2: that has just been pure fun. You know. It's just
Speaker 2: been kind of taking a micro edit, like a weekly
Speaker 2: edit approach, and then occasionally I'll respond to listener questions
Speaker 2: and that sort of thing. But it's you know, I'm
Speaker 2: a writer and that space is such a happy one
Speaker 2: for me, so it's been really delightful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely been fun trying out substack and seeing
Speaker 1: how people are getting their work out to a bigger
Speaker 1: audience through it. So Christine, I always ask my guests
Speaker 1: this question of what is something you've done recently to
Speaker 1: take a day from great to awesome? And normally I
Speaker 1: just let people respond as they will, but I am
Speaker 1: hoping that you will tell us a little bit about
Speaker 1: a recent newsletter you did write, which is about your
Speaker 1: birthday weekend, and afterwards you recounted I believe it was
Speaker 1: fifty two moments of wonderfulness in the course of the
Speaker 1: weekend in this newsletter, So that would definitely take a
Speaker 1: day from great to awesome. Somebody you could talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it was kind of an unexpected post. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think I had in the back of my mind
Speaker 2: that I might write something about my birthday. That's like
Speaker 2: literally what I wrote as a potential idea for that
Speaker 2: week's newsletter. I just turned fifty two, and my daughter
Speaker 2: came back from college, and my husband and younger daughter Violet,
Speaker 2: and the dog of course always around, and it just
Speaker 2: the weekend started. I have the good fortune, or I
Speaker 2: had the good fortune this year of having a Sunday
Speaker 2: birthday on a holiday long weekend, so I had a
Speaker 2: little extra time for awesome, and I just kept being
Speaker 2: struck by all of these tiny, little moments, you know,
Speaker 2: from the moment my older daughter came off the Amtrak
Speaker 2: and walked in the house and I could see our
Speaker 2: dog's tail wagging furiously in excitement. There were just so
Speaker 2: many little moments of delight like that, and I didn't
Speaker 2: want to forget them, so I just started writing them
Speaker 2: down in a note in my to do app and
Speaker 2: then the list kept growing and growing and growing, and
Speaker 2: it just ended up feeling like this really delightful exercise
Speaker 2: of noticing, you know, noticing what was around, noticing all
Speaker 2: these moments where I was feeling people express their care
Speaker 2: for me. And you know, it wasn't extraordinary. We were
Speaker 2: at home that weekend, and I'm intentionally a pretty mellow
Speaker 2: person when it comes to celebrations, so it wasn't like
Speaker 2: I wanted some big thing I had asked for dinner.
Speaker 2: I said, I just like snacks, Like snacks are my
Speaker 2: favorite things, so I'd like snacks but with like shrimp cocktail.
Speaker 2: That's like all I want. And of course the kids
Speaker 2: made this like beautiful dinner. So I ended up jotting
Speaker 2: all these things down, and when I finished the list,
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, I think I'll share this to substack
Speaker 2: it was fifty two things and I had turned fifty two,
Speaker 2: So I thought, this is kind of magical. I'm going
Speaker 2: to share this. So I think that exercise of noticing
Speaker 2: is really important because oftentimes we're all so busy and
Speaker 2: it can be hard to just pause and think about
Speaker 2: all those tiny moments that are happening around you. But
Speaker 2: when you do, even if you do it, you know,
Speaker 2: it would be a fun exercise to do on a
Speaker 2: Saturday or a Sunday to just, you know, drap little
Speaker 2: moments down as you're experiencing your day and then look
Speaker 2: at them at the end of the day and see
Speaker 2: how that shook out. I think that would be a
Speaker 2: fun exercise.
Speaker 1: Well, and don't you think that perhaps by having like
Speaker 1: once you started, I mean, you weren't necessarily going into
Speaker 1: this intending to be like, Okay, I'm going to write
Speaker 1: down when my dog's tail is wagging. But when you
Speaker 1: started and then you knew you were going to keep
Speaker 1: going with this, do you think that led you to
Speaker 1: see more of them than you might sure otherwise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I had a couple of things that happened
Speaker 2: where I realized hadn't I had just been kind of
Speaker 2: in the moment I was like, oh, I should write
Speaker 2: those down. Those were like, those are like really wonderful,
Speaker 2: joyful things.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it does like direct like just give us
Speaker 1: one or two of them.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just think like anything from okay. So
Speaker 2: one example was earlier in the week. You know, I
Speaker 2: told you about the idea. I just wanted snacks for
Speaker 2: dinner and this shrim cocktail, and just a couple of
Speaker 2: days before the weekend, some of our best friends on Earth,
Speaker 2: who I love dearly, they live in the UK. They
Speaker 2: happened to be in town and they said, Hey, is
Speaker 2: there any chance we could bring birthday burritos by? And
Speaker 2: they said, we literally were listening to your podcast and
Speaker 2: you talked about how much you love burritos. I was like,
Speaker 2: that is one that's really kind, like what a way
Speaker 2: to be seen, and two that would just be blow
Speaker 2: my mind amazing to actually see you on my birthday.
Speaker 2: This is how much I love these people. And the
Speaker 2: moment that I hadn't even thought about or wouldn't have
Speaker 2: thought about writing down except I knew I was now
Speaker 2: writing things down, was the moment when I stepped out
Speaker 2: the door. I was actually trying to get some fresh air,
Speaker 2: because my allergies had gotten kind of off the rails
Speaker 2: and I was sneezing a lot, so I just stuck
Speaker 2: my hat out the front door. And then that moment
Speaker 2: when I saw their car pull up, and I started
Speaker 2: jumping up and down like a little kid, and I,
Speaker 2: you know, I kind of wrote that down in my
Speaker 2: list because I thought, wow, like a what a great
Speaker 2: thing to feel that excited to see somebody, and then
Speaker 2: to have somebody see how excited you are to see them.
Speaker 2: It was kind of like a dual mood boost.
Speaker 1: I love it, and I love Christine that you didn't
Speaker 1: decide to make the fact that your allergies were acting
Speaker 1: up as like, oh life is terrible, my birthday weekend
Speaker 1: is ruined.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, I was complaining a little bit about the allergies.
Speaker 2: But you know, be that as it may. This is life, right,
Speaker 2: this is life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Well, I know the birthday is past, but
Speaker 1: what are you looking forward to right now? Well?
Speaker 2: So I am. I mean many things, I guess, but
Speaker 2: I think one thing that has been so fascinating in
Speaker 2: the past year is I have become a person who
Speaker 2: is fascinated about earth, specifically, you know, gardening, medicinal herbs
Speaker 2: and so I have been exploring and I just recently
Speaker 2: went to actually one of my podcast listeners DMed me
Speaker 2: because they heard about some you know, free herbalist seminar
Speaker 2: that was happening online. And I went to a few
Speaker 2: classes and it was amazing and the people were just
Speaker 2: the nicest. So one of the things I've been delighting
Speaker 2: in is now being a person who thinks about the seasons.
Speaker 2: And I live in the Boston area, so I actually
Speaker 2: have four seasons, but thinks about the seasons in terms
Speaker 2: of planning my gardening plans. So I have a very
Speaker 2: nerdy Google doc and I was just working on it recently,
Speaker 2: you know, with plans for the fall of this year,
Speaker 2: some stuff to do in the dead of winter, things
Speaker 2: to do in the spring. So it's been very satisfying.
Speaker 2: It's a great hobby should anybody wish to pursue something different.
Speaker 1: Gardening is a great way to take any day from
Speaker 1: great to ask them, well, where can people find you?
Speaker 2: My general website is christineco dot com, but the most
Speaker 2: the places where I'm most active are the ed of
Speaker 2: your Life podcast, so you can find that wherever you
Speaker 2: subscribe or sub stack if you just find me there
Speaker 2: you'll there's always a story and edit your life wonderful.
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