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Speaker 1: Welcome to a special edition of the Not Dunk Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Leaos today I'm joined by a legend from the

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Speaker 1: Australian and international basketball world. He's a four time Olympian,

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Speaker 1: had two stints in the NBA, once playing for the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Timberwolves and later for the San Antonio Spurs. He

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Speaker 1: spent most of his professional career playing in Australia's Premier League,

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Speaker 1: the NBL, winning the championship with the Cidney Kings in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and three. And he joins me from his

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Speaker 1: home in Sydney via zoom. He is Shane the Hammer Heel. Shane,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining me.

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Speaker 2: What an introduction. Thanks and nice to be able to

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Speaker 2: talk to.

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Speaker 1: Who's Yeah, well that's what we're here for to talk

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Speaker 1: about who's for? First off, how is the situation there

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Speaker 1: in Sydney. You're allowed outside, you are allowed to mingle.

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Speaker 1: I know it's been a little bit up and down

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Speaker 1: there in Australia, but what's the situation currently in Sydney.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we've been very very fortunate, had any

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Speaker 3: cases for a handful of days now in New South Wales,

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Speaker 3: so you know, wearing masks and those sort of things,

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Speaker 3: and you know, having to check in when you go

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Speaker 3: and get a coffee or something a week. So all

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Speaker 3: of that tracing's big time here in Australia, but we're

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Speaker 3: very fortunate to compare to the rest.

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Speaker 1: Of the world, especially where I am here in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: It's we're a long way away from that. But hopefully

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Speaker 1: today is the start of something new. But anyway, we're

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Speaker 1: here to talk basketball, So let's talk first of all

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Speaker 1: about the NBA and the biggest story I think still

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Speaker 1: from this early season, the big trade James Harden goes

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Speaker 1: from the Houston Rockets and to the Brooklyn Nets. Now,

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Speaker 1: before we talk about the trade, what were your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on how James Harden sort of played his way out

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Speaker 1: of Houston there. I mean, if he was your teammate

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Speaker 1: and he kind of acted the way that he did,

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Speaker 1: he kind of called out his teammates, he didn't really

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Speaker 1: show up, how would you have handled that situation in

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Speaker 1: the locker room?

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Speaker 2: Well, a couple of things.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go on record to start with and

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Speaker 3: say that I am not a James Harden fan. Certainly

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Speaker 3: respect his ability and his talent. What he can do

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Speaker 3: is absolutely unbelievable, but wanting to be a teammate of

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Speaker 3: his no sir e and you know, just his mindset,

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Speaker 3: and unfortunately that's the way the NBA has played. These

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Speaker 3: guys are going to dictate where they're at, and if

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Speaker 3: they don't get what they want, they're going to throw

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Speaker 3: the toys out of the cot, suck their thumb in

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Speaker 3: the corner, put on way, carry on until they get traded,

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Speaker 3: and ultimately they'll get what they want.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I think Houston's going to be a

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Speaker 2: lot better from it.

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Speaker 3: They had to obviously demand as much as they possibly

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Speaker 3: could to move a superstar on and try and rebuild again,

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Speaker 3: and I think they've been able to get a pretty

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Speaker 3: good reward considering the situation they're in.

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Speaker 1: So now that he goes to Brooklyn and he's there

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Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving, can these three stars

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Speaker 1: coexist because you know, James Harden Kevin Durant obviously played

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Speaker 1: you know, basically a decade ago in Oklahoma City, but

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Speaker 1: they were younger players then and now they're both MVPs.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant obviously won a couple of championship as well.

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving hit the bigger shot in Cleveland Cavaliers history.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's won a championship. He's a proven All Star,

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Speaker 1: All NBA caliber player in this league. But he likes

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Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. Kevin Durant wants a ball

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Speaker 1: in his hands. James Harden, of course, needs a ball

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Speaker 1: in his hands. Can these three guys coexist on the

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Speaker 3: Well, it's the big question, isn't it. And you know

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Speaker 3: I'm skeptical. With talent, no doubt they can win a

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Speaker 3: championship and probably should win a championship, But you know,

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Speaker 3: you've got to think about.

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Speaker 2: The people these guys surround themselves with.

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Speaker 3: So Kyrie comes back and he's boys are talent him, mate,

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Speaker 3: you need to still go and get twenty five gilder Man.

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Speaker 3: Those guys need to take a back seat to you

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Speaker 3: so they know who you are. And then you know,

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Speaker 3: James Harden's going there and he's trying to do the

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Speaker 3: right thing for a period of time because he's got

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Speaker 3: to fit into other people's teams. So you know, he

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Speaker 3: does the right thing for a period of time, but

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Speaker 3: ultimately the ego comes out as well, and his people

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Speaker 2: Mate, you've still got to be able to do what

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Speaker 3: You've got averaging eighteen points a game, so they know

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Speaker 2: You need more usage.

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Speaker 3: You need to show everybody that you can win a

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Speaker 3: So ultimately, who's going to sacrifice? You know, when it

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Speaker 3: gets to the final stages. And now they'll get through

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Speaker 3: a season, they'll have some big wins, they'll have some

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Speaker 3: bad losses, we'll all talk about it, but they're going

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Speaker 2: And the big thing for.

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Speaker 3: Me is I call hardin harm because I refuse to

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Speaker 3: put a Deni's name because that's the question mark. Will

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Speaker 3: down to the finals, who's he going to defend?

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Speaker 2: And does he have.

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Speaker 3: Enough pride to be able to stand up and give

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Speaker 1: I will say I was also skeptical of him, especially

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Speaker 1: looked like he really wasn't in game shape. But the

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Speaker 1: he was on his best behavior. But it's one thing

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Speaker 1: of course in the playoffs when you're facing the same

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Speaker 1: So that's definitely going to be an issue there, I

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Speaker 1: think as well for the Nets going forward. But they've

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Speaker 1: defend those guys as well? I mean, who you're going

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Speaker 1: this trade went, it happened. We heard that basically Ben

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Speaker 1: seemed like. Apparently, according to reports, his agent was told

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Speaker 1: knowing that you were virtually traded from your team? How

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll get to Ben Simmons. I just want to

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Speaker 2: He's on parole right now. He's been just there's no

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Speaker 3: So he knows everyone's looking at him, So he's a

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Speaker 2: Those guys who want to play ISO basketball.

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Speaker 3: All the time, and you look at some of the

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Speaker 2: It work with Superstars and Steph Curry and Klay Thompson.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, with KD they move, they move those ball movement

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Speaker 2: Then they all get a piece of the action as well.

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Speaker 2: That's the question mark for me about the NETS. But

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Speaker 3: Simmons, I was hoping he was going to get traded.

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Speaker 3: I think Ben Simmons needs a new start. I look

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Speaker 3: just conformed into this guy that's got so much talented,

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Speaker 2: His usage is low, he's not aggressive. I'm not of

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Speaker 3: To go out and start shooting three, so I don't

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Speaker 2: I think he still has to be aggressive.

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Speaker 3: You know, his numbers have declined because he's not even

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Speaker 3: I think the great players balanced that up with being

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Speaker 2: So I think he's a bit stale. I think deep.

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Speaker 3: Down he probably would have been hurt with his ego

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Speaker 1: When I look at Ben Simmons, you know, he's a

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Speaker 1: THEN i look at you were like five, eleven you,

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Speaker 1: Like Ben simmons. Can so you had to develop a

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Speaker 1: know and again he doesn't have to Be Steph curry

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Speaker 1: had to find a way to make it. Work how

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Speaker 3: Has, YEAH i think it starts with you, know as

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Speaker 3: soon as the season.

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Speaker 2: Finishes it's about getting the technique, right you.

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Speaker 3: Know AND i coach elite kids, now and it's, about you,

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Speaker 3: know once you've got your technique, right and then you're

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Speaker 3: Then you're developing it off the drill and then you're

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Speaker 2: Believe that he's An All star and to be An

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Speaker 3: The key he can go in and finish with, either hands

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Speaker 2: And everything else.

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Speaker 3: Is unbelieved not to mention the fact that he's going

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Speaker 2: As Well and.

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Speaker 3: I'm just not seeing his mindset for, whatever reason really

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Speaker 1: All, star, yeah well, WELL again i guess maybe that's.

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Speaker 1: The Thing. In philadelphia there's been a lot of speculation

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Speaker 1: over the last couple. Of years, you know Is It ben,

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Speaker 1: offensive END because i don't Think that ben spreads. The

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Speaker 1: either so, you know you don't really want your big

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Speaker 1: least turn a lot of those opportunities into high, percentage

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Speaker 1: far he hasn't been able to really develop that. Consistent shot,

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Speaker 1: COURT vision i think he's got a good basketball. Like,

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Speaker 1: YOU defensively i think. HE'S incredible i think he should

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Speaker 1: be in line for all. Defensive teams so he brings

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Speaker 1: other parts of. His game but that brings me to,

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Speaker 1: you Know the australians we have IN the nba, right

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Speaker 1: now and one, IN particular I Think paddy mills is

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Speaker 1: bench there averaging fourteen. A game he was shooting over

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Speaker 1: fifty percent. From three he's called off a. Little Bit

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Speaker 1: but paddy down there With, coach popovich who you obviously

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Speaker 1: played for there as well briefly there With The San.

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Speaker 1: Antonio spurs did you you Know when patty made it

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Speaker 1: in when you was very very quick There in portland

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Speaker 1: in those first couple. Of seasons but did you see

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Speaker 2: San, antonio well he's always had.

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Speaker 3: THIS talent i saw him as a teenage out Of

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Speaker 3: the Institute. Of sport he was there at the same

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Speaker 3: Time As joe ingles.

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Speaker 2: And, you know.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable talent but he's continually been able.

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Speaker 2: To evolve he's got a great, work ethic just that

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Speaker 2: pure shot.

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Speaker 3: As well let's, Face it pop's been one of the

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Speaker 3: best defenders over the last ten Years Of paddy.

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Speaker 2: Mill's game paddy came.

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Speaker 3: Out at the start of this season and, He said

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Speaker 3: i'm Going With. Olympic Paddy now i'm going with. The

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Speaker 2: To go make.

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Speaker 3: IT happen i reckon the last couple Of years paddy

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Speaker 3: could have played a much bigger role.

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Speaker 2: In doing the sort of things that he's. Doing now

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Speaker 2: it's almost like the shackles have been released a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit like, you said almost fifteen points, a game

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Speaker 3: forty seven percent from the three.

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Speaker 2: Point line and he's that sort of guy when he.

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Speaker 2: Plays free he's not a. Point guard we.

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Speaker 3: Know that, you know he's a, pesky defender but he

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Speaker 3: can shoot it, from anywhere.

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Speaker 2: He can shoot. It quick he makes his team BETTER

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Speaker 2: and i think when you've.

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Speaker 3: Got Guys like DeRozan there that creates so, much attention

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Speaker 3: he's perfect as that next sort of guy that can

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Speaker 3: put points on the board and do it quick. As

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Speaker 3: well so About time pop let Him loose paddy to

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Speaker 3: be able to do what he DOES.

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Speaker 2: And i think he can do it for a long time.

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Speaker 2: As well great team mate and he's Been great.

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Speaker 1: AUSTRALIAN basketball I saw Patty in atlanta last Year after

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Speaker 1: australia BEAT the usa down in There, in MELBOURNE and, i,

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Speaker 1: said well, you know you must have been talking a

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Speaker 1: bit of Trash to pop, about that, you know like

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Speaker 1: that's their first loss since two thousand, and six and, he's, like,

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Speaker 1: ah yeah a little bit of, a JOKE but i

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Speaker 1: don't want to take it too long because, You know

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Speaker 1: pop's still my, coach NOW so i might spend are

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Speaker 1: him too. Much lit but it is great To see

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Speaker 1: patty just develop and evolve into that leader that He's

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Speaker 1: come and that Game in Australia and melbourne last year

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Speaker 1: or you know those two games he really stepped up And,

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Speaker 1: carried australia which. Was great but Talking About greg, POPOVIC

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Speaker 1: again i know you spent some time There In, san

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Speaker 1: Antonio And andrew gayze did. As Well aaron bains has also,

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Speaker 1: played there So so pop knows a lot About the. Australian,

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Speaker 1: PLAYERS now i know you're only there a, short time

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Speaker 1: But did pop give you any of that legendary he?

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Speaker 1: Sort of, you know did he unload on you at?

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Speaker 1: Any point did he scream and yell or how is

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Speaker 1: your relationship?

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Speaker 3: With?

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Speaker 2: HIM no i mean he was he.

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Speaker 3: WAS great i mean, for me it was so different

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Speaker 3: than my first him IN the nba because they were.

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Speaker 3: ALREADY retired i just won a championship With The. SYDNEY kings,

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Speaker 3: I said i'm going to hang up With the, BOOTS

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Speaker 3: now i was. THIRTY three, I said i'll play part Time.

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Speaker 3: In europe i'd spent four Years in europe, all Together

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Speaker 3: so i'll just, go back, you know Play after christmas

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Speaker 3: and play for four or five months of. The year

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Speaker 3: and then all of, A sudden i get a call up,

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Speaker 3: to say can you come. To camp we're looking for

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Speaker 3: someone who can shoot the ball and stretch the Floor With.

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Speaker 3: Timmy DUNCAN so i. WENT there i didn't have the

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Speaker 3: proper PRESEASON as i, should have and got the and,

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Speaker 3: you know got cut a couple, of times and stayed

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Speaker 3: there for, three months and the Last time, pop said.

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Speaker 2: We're about to make a. Few changes hang around for

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Speaker 2: the next, ten days and we think we're going to.

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Speaker 2: Resign YOU but i signed straight Away in greece and

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Speaker 2: went on with it at.

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Speaker 3: Different stage in. My life and, You know. Pop's great

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Speaker 3: he keeps, you honest no doubt. About that he's a

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Speaker 3: bit scary at, different stages and, he'll dunk and he's

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Speaker 3: in and out of when he's serious. Verse JOKING so

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Speaker 3: i can Understand what. Patty's saying but, you know just

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Speaker 3: the Culture And san antonio is incredible and the people

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Speaker 3: they select and they're superstars and when you have someone like,

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Speaker 3: You Know. Tim duncan and in the first VIDEO session i,

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Speaker 3: WENT to i watched he Absolutely Ripped tim duncan in.

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Speaker 2: The preseason and.

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Speaker 3: What he did is he set the culture every other

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Speaker 3: player in the team to be able to accept bank coached,

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Speaker 3: and criticism because, You know tim put his.

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Speaker 2: Hand up, and, said, yep coach, my fault and here's

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Speaker 2: THIS superstar i. Don't reckon any other far in the

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Speaker 2: world would have been able to accept it and move

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Speaker 2: on and lay.

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Speaker 1: That culture, You Know, andrew gaze he was on our.

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Speaker 1: SHOW once i used to have a SHOW ON, nba

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Speaker 1: tv and he came on and he actually said the

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Speaker 1: exact same thing that he Said, that pop, you know

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Speaker 1: almost as, an example would Call Out, tim duncan because,

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Speaker 1: it's like if coach is Calling Out, tim duncan then

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Speaker 1: player twelve thirteen on. The bench, you know there's no

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Speaker 1: special treatment for anybody. Out here, you know everyone gets the.

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Speaker 1: Same treatment, But look pop's still. COACHING now i don't

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Speaker 1: know if you could believe that he'd still, be coaching

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Speaker 1: what seventeen years after you've played for him There In

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Speaker 1: san antonio and Again the spurs not really championship contender material,

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Speaker 1: right now but always consistent and always in the, playoff

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Speaker 1: hunt which is half. The. Battle really they don't have

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Speaker 1: these huge peaks. And troughs they're just always consistent and continuing.

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Speaker 1: To perform and again it's that defense that you never

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Speaker 1: ever See the spurs just play a bad, defensive game

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Speaker 1: which is just an incredible credit to what the Message

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Speaker 1: that pop's being able, to send especially now that he

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Speaker 1: Doesn't Have tim duncan, out there he Doesn't Have tony

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Speaker 1: parker and. Those legends who are you with that team

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Speaker 1: for such a. Long, time WELL.

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Speaker 3: And i think the other thing too is that he

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Speaker 3: antonio knows that you're going to have to, buy in,

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Speaker 3: you know the expectations of the people that have come,

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Speaker 3: before you.

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Speaker 2: The Success that.

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Speaker 3: Pops had so there's a respect there straight away that

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Speaker 3: if you want to, make it and you can get

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Speaker 3: Through the spurs program, right there you can. Play anywhere

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Speaker 3: so they don't have the peaks and troughs because of

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Speaker 3: that selection of people and private they'll.

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Speaker 2: Grow again they need another superstar and it goes in.

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Speaker 1: Those waves they'll. Find, one yeah just quickly talking a

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Speaker 1: well as About another australian who's made his beginnings Down.

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Speaker 1: In Dallas josh green hasn't had, you know hasn't had

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Speaker 1: a real good opportunity yet to sort of get too.

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Speaker 1: Many minutes what do you know about him and what are?

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Speaker 1: The prospects Because the MAVs got him in the first

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Speaker 1: round of the draft HERE and i think he's in a.

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Speaker 1: Good situation they're playing along, You Know rick carlisle's not,

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Speaker 1: quite pop but he's in that similar sort of vein

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Speaker 1: that he's been. There forever they've got a Superstar, in

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Speaker 1: Doncic and porzingis looks like he's going to be a

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Speaker 1: pretty good talent. As well what do you expect to

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Speaker 1: See From josh green over these next couple.

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Speaker 2: OF seasons i think he'll continue.

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Speaker 3: TO grow i think he's a really good pick Up

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Speaker 3: for dallas because the way, he plays he doesn't want.

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Speaker 3: High usage he's going to play out of. The corners

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Speaker 3: he's a good three point shooter and improve three point

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Speaker 3: shooter and probably will continue to improve.

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Speaker 2: Even more but.

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Speaker 3: He's a, great defender a, good ATHLETE and i think

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Speaker 3: when you've got someone with such high usage as donkics

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Speaker 3: and you've got the big valery.

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Speaker 2: Inside as well that are going to get pieces of.

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Speaker 3: The ball he becomes a nice little piece to them

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Speaker 3: to be able to compliment and he give you consistency

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Speaker 3: at the defense event.

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Speaker 2: He's watched they've needed. As WELL so i think he

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Speaker 2: just has to.

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Speaker 3: Be Patient, in dallas they make you do your. Time

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Speaker 3: there he's getting bits. And pieces he started a couple,

438
00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,280
Speaker 3: of games but not a highlight of a whole lot

439
00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,240
Speaker 3: of minutes at the moment that, over time that.

440
00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,960
Speaker 1: Will grow do you ever hear from The younger australian

441
00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,119
Speaker 1: players who have made it INTO the nba do you

442
00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,000
Speaker 1: counsel them about? Life transition, you know Moving, to america,

443
00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,440
Speaker 1: different country, different city big lot, of attention, you know lots,

444
00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,760
Speaker 1: of games lots. OF travel, i mean are you involved

445
00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,040
Speaker 1: in being a mentor with any of the younger men

446
00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,439
Speaker 1: or women who come over here.

447
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:43,520
Speaker 2: To?

448
00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,639
Speaker 3: Play yeah more SO when i was an assistant coach

449
00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,479
Speaker 3: Of the, australian team because you're around those guys all

450
00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,760
Speaker 3: the time, you're traveling there's an opportunity to sit down

451
00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,119
Speaker 3: and tell stories and all the rest. Of that. You

452
00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,200
Speaker 3: know my advice back to them was. So DIFFERENT when

453
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,040
Speaker 3: i went TO. The nba it's nineteen, ninety six not

454
00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,960
Speaker 3: many people Out of america or even playing, in it

455
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,280
Speaker 3: And the americans didn't think anyone could play. Basketball outside

456
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,440
Speaker 3: so you had to do. Your TIME and i certainly wasn't.

457
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,520
Speaker 3: PATIENT enough i wanted to be able to get it.

458
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,359
Speaker 3: Done now and you have some big games and, you,

459
00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,280
Speaker 3: Think yep i'm ready, to go and then you get

460
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:14,960
Speaker 3: left down and.

461
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:15,719
Speaker 2: Not being on and.

462
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,080
Speaker 3: Everything else so these, GUYS now, i think, you Know

463
00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,480
Speaker 3: With luke lumley involved in the national team and so

464
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,120
Speaker 3: many guys that are on the, national team so many

465
00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,960
Speaker 3: more opportunities to speak to guys that are there doing.

466
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 2: It now AND when i, was there It Was luke

467
00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:30,920
Speaker 2: longley and myself that.

468
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 1: Far gone so, you know you said there weren't too

469
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,840
Speaker 1: many international players IN. The nba, of course, you know

470
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,359
Speaker 1: it's sort of throughout the nineties that tended. To grow and,

471
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 1: of course, you know one of your most famous moments

472
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 1: was a friendly game that wasn't so friendly AGAINST the

473
00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,119
Speaker 1: usa Before the olympics in. NINETY six, i mean that

474
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 1: was an, incredible game an. INCREDIBLE moment i remember watching It,

475
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 1: because australians, you know LIKE when i think of the

476
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,199
Speaker 1: Ninety Two, dream team The First, dream team, You know

477
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 1: Jordan and Magic, and larry they were kind of like,

478
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,920
Speaker 1: superheroes almost. YOU know i remember the other teams were

479
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 1: like trying to get photos with these guys and changing

480
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,120
Speaker 1: jerseys and they wanted to, be, like, Hey look i'm

481
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 1: on the same court as. This guy and things changed

482
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 1: a little bit by ninety four and then ninety six

483
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 1: and then. NINETY six i mean that was A pre

484
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 1: Olympic game Australia versus Ure Saying Salt. Lake City but

485
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 1: australians were never the same in, that like, Oh wow

486
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 1: i'm on the Court with Shaq Or grant Hill Or.

487
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 1: Charles barkley and you didn't seem to have any nerves

488
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 1: or any sort of tension. Out there you just went

489
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 1: out there and played as hard as. You, could now,

490
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 1: You know america won the, game comfortably but you caught

491
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 1: fire to the Point Where charles barkley took a cheap shot.

492
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: AT you, i mean in, that moment what were, you

493
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 1: thinking what, you're feeling and how close was that situation

494
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 1: to sort of, you know maybe you're rupting into a

495
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,919
Speaker 1: bit of a brawl out out in, The court oh.

496
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 3: No doubt we saw all the other teams getting photos

497
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 3: and getting autographs and, these things and, we said it's

498
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 3: just Not the. Australian way we love. These Guys charles

499
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 3: barkley was my. FAVORITE player i love the way, you

500
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 3: played his attitude and.

501
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 2: Everything else but at the same time i'd hit two or.

502
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 3: Three threes, you know he, comes, in laid takes my,

503
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 3: legs out was a, Cheap, shot okay, got up gave

504
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 3: him a little chest bump and gave him.

505
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 2: A few, choice WORDS and i remember him, Looking down

506
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 2: what did?

507
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 3: You SAY and i didn't know whether understand the accent

508
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 3: or whether he just couldn't BELIEVE what i just told him.

509
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 2: To, DO anyway i, repeated it and it's. Obviously eruugh.

510
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 3: But our mindset was that we weren't being disrespectful or trying.

511
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 3: To grandstand and, YOU know i would have done exactly

512
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 3: the same IN the nbl or. Anywhere ELSE but i

513
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 3: feel like what that game did is that we've always

514
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 3: been a really tight unit as.

515
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 2: A strands we, play hard we.

516
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 3: Played together at the end of, The day we'll have

517
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 3: to beer with you if we, don't win but, all good.

518
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 2: And we got a LOT of i think we got

519
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 2: a lot of confidence out.

520
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 3: Of that game because we were ramked about tenth into,

521
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 3: that tournament ended up making the top four and having

522
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 3: to Play The dream Team in atlanta in front of

523
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 3: thirty five thousand people in the big football stadium to

524
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 3: try and go through to a. Gold medal and obviously

525
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,719
Speaker 3: they knew who we were by, that stage so. They

526
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 3: Scouted now i'd had thirty, two points they weren't get

527
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 3: a twenty.

528
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 2: EIGHT points i think had, eight threes and they know

529
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 2: what you do you want.

530
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 3: To get so that's a bigger challenge to be able to,

531
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 3: come back you know after a full torn and play

532
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 3: against but just great experience for us to be able to.

533
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 1: DO it i was watching highlights of it the other

534
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: day Again And dick Stockton And hubie brown on They Called,

535
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: HUBY brown i mean, a legend legend of, the game

536
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 1: and he was just in awe of you, out there,

537
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: you know like after about the, second one he, was saying,

538
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: all right get up on this guy because you know

539
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: he's feeling it and, you know you hit, a couple

540
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: you hit that corner One Over john stockton, as Well

541
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 1: and hube's, just like oh, my god this. Is great

542
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: so if you Can Impress, hube brown you know you're

543
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: certainly doing. SOMETHING right, i mean, you know that's that's

544
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: the highest sort of praise you can receive from a commentator.

545
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 3: Right, THERE well i think because they obviously hadn't done

546
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: too much preparation Playing, against australia.

547
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: They just go out.

548
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 3: And play but YOU know i always had. GREAT range

549
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 3: i practiced from a long. Way out THAT'S what. I

550
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 3: did THAT'S where i made. My living and, YOU know

551
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 3: i look at today's GAME and, i, think, well raise

552
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 3: these guys Are shitting look at. The range THAT'S what

553
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 3: i used to do twenty five. Years ago THAT'S what,

554
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 3: i made, you know a. Living from and in, that

555
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 3: game they'd go under a screen and YOU know i

556
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 3: could be a meter or two OUT and i didn't.

557
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 2: Have a problem being able to knock.

558
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 3: That down so it was it was, good fun, good experience,

559
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 3: great crowd all the rest. Of it BUT like, i

560
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: said it was more about us taking that into the

561
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: tournament and finished, top four which you know we did a.

562
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 2: Number, of times.

563
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 3: Which is really Beeble for australia finish in the top

564
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 3: four when you look at sort of the way.

565
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: We, are yeah that's what it's going to ask. YOU about,

566
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: i mean, The women australian's women Won The world championships

567
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: in two thousand and SIX and i think they've won

568
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: three silver medals At the. Olympics game So the australia

569
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: women have. Done fantastic but for, the men we seem

570
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: to we seem to be doing, so well but we

571
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: just can't quite break through. And metal we've had some

572
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: incredible tight Games against, spain recently which came down to

573
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: some dodgy, free THROWS but i mean that's the way it.

574
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: Goes sometimes and then in ninety six, it, was yeah

575
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: we made fourth place there. As well are we closer

576
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: do you think? To meddling are we? FURTHER away, i

577
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: mean is the talent, getting better is the camaraderie still

578
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 1: there with, the team or, you know do you sort

579
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: of see us maybe, you know that was that was

580
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: our best best shot and we haven't been able to

581
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: sort of, you know sort of take home a metal

582
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: when we. Should, HAVE.

583
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah i mean it's a. Great question and we're finished fourth.

584
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 2: Four times that was part of two of those us

585
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 2: To lift.

586
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: Awania twice in ninety six it was only by a,

587
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 3: few points and we had our chances and that Was

588
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: with Sabonas And marshall, len guys and we Didn't Have,

589
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: luke longley so that was probably our. Best chance and like,

590
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: you said these guys only a few years ago Lost.

591
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: Of spain we were playing against teams that had more

592
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 3: talent and we were overachieving because most of us were Based.

593
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 2: In australia were very tight in. Your team we understood.

594
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: Our roles now we've GOT more. Nba guys these guys,

595
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: aren't scared, you know they.

596
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: Continue on they've got more exposurey about PLAYING against nba

597
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 3: guys week in.

598
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,719
Speaker 2: Week out that gives us.

599
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 3: An advantage but whether disadvantage comes and my concern moving

600
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: forward is does Playing for australia mean the Same To,

601
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: ben simmons who's WORK whatever a couple hundred men as.

602
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 2: What it did for ME that i was just playing

603
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: because that was. MY goal i didn't aim to play IN.

604
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: THE nba i wanted to Play. For australia that was,

605
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 2: my pride that was.

606
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 3: My dream so some of these guys that are making

607
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 3: them so, much money do they want to give? Up

608
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 3: time are they just picking and choosing when they do,

609
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 3: come together are they going to embrace what it means

610
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 3: to Be in australian and.

611
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 2: Boomer and to be able to take, a role to

612
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 2: be able. To win that's the question that. WE'VE got i.

613
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 3: Hope that they embrace it and they're ready, to sacrifice

614
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: because Playing for australia is.

615
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: So front when you play for a club team and

616
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: you get, your role it's.

617
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: About stats it's about making all, star teams about winning,

618
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: as well but these other things are really important.

619
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: For contracts Whereas with australia it is nothing. About.

620
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: That yeah well it's funny you say THAT because i

621
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: know when, you know You watch Olympics Or, world championships

622
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: You Know andrew bogert is incredible Playing. For Australia aaron

623
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: baines has. BEEN incredible I remember i've lost his name

624
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: there the guy Who played he played IN the nba

625
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: briefly there. He, Played, no no he's an older, guy

626
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: now he was about. SIX' ten i can't he Played.

627
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: For the rockets he Played for, the raptors briefly spent most.

628
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: OF his career I think in europe his name. Has

629
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: escaped me but another guy Again. Just representing australia when

630
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: you Put That, Green David, anderson david anderson. That's, the

631
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: one yeah when you put that green and, gold jersey

632
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: on players. Just, Play, Differently Again, patty joe ingles, all

633
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 1: these guys they just look much much better out on

634
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: the court because it just there's so much more. Behind

635
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: BEHIND it and i just, Like you're SAYING that's why i.

636
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: ASKED you, that i mean Do you think, australia's you

637
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 1: know men's basketball, certainly at least are we getting closer

638
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: or is that gap maybe widening a little bit because

639
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: you see those other, countries As well like, serbia for

640
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: example when, they play together they. Play great Basketball spain

641
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: and france, They're always tough croatia they're another very, Tough

642
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: team always, AND you know i think it's Very important

643
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: that australia maintains that level, of COMPETITIVENESS internationally and i hope. That's,

644
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: the case, so you know again Seeing Guys like josh

645
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: green get drafted in. The First Round obviously Ben Simmons

646
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: and andrew boger was a number one pick back in the.

647
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: Day as, Well you Know patty And Joe and deli vedova.

648
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: Is still. Playing dante, exam you know he's unfortunately dealing.

649
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: WITH another injury i think the, talent IS there but

650
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: i just hope that we can still compete on the

651
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: WORLD stage because i think that it'd be nothing greater

652
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: as An achievement for australian basketball if we, could just

653
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: medal even if. It's a, BRONZE you know i don't

654
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: think there's, any you know it's not bad to win. A,

655
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: bronze medal. Yeah exactly. Exactly we would we would take

656
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: it right now because we've been so close without, being able,

657
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: to you know, to get there and some of those

658
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: heartbreaking losses just they they just seem like it's just not.

659
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: For us sometimes but but hopefully, that will. Change you

660
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: know talking about THE W, N b a i wanted

661
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: To Talk about lauren jackson firstly because she's been Nominated

662
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: For The nay Smith hall of. Fame this year she's

663
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: already IN The w Nba hall of Fame And the

664
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 1: Australian Institute or Australian, Hall Of Fame australian Sports. Hall

665
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: Of fame lauren jackson All, the, credentials championships, MVPs YOU

666
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: know all nba representatives there FOR, the W Nba. THE seattle,

667
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: storm i mean what do you what do you remember

668
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: most about her incredible career and where do you think

669
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: she stands in The sort of. Australian, SPORTING hierarchy well

670
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: i mean.

671
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: SHE was incredible i mean she was really the first

672
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 3: superstar that, we've actually, had you, know women's sport probably with.

673
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: Men's as well like her accolades and what she's been,

674
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: able to achieve there's no doubt that there's no men's basketball.

675
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: That's done more than, what she's, done you.

676
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: Know GOING into the wnba when she was only nineteen

677
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: years of age and then going on and achieving all

678
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: of those things individually and collectively, for a team making.

679
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: A team better but she's the first person we've really

680
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: seen of that size that had the mobility to be able. To,

681
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: step out, normally you know when you're six seven or six' eight,

682
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: or whatever she is you stick them inside and you

683
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: know you play through them. With a high advantage but

684
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: she had that mobility to be able to step. Out

685
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: just unbelievably skilled she did it from a young age

686
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: and did it all the way until she was a.

687
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: Lot older, as well so. Superstars she. Deserves, everything she, Gets.

688
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah it's great and YOU know the reason. I brought,

689
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: that up first off she's a Legend obviously in, the

690
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: australian sporting world, in the basketball world but you yourself

691
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: have a daughter who's shown Some. Pretty good form shila?

692
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: Now where is she i've read that she may. Be

693
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: DRAFTED this year now i don't, know if that's true

694
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: or maybe, you COULD confirm that but i saw some

695
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: highlights of, her PLAYING out there and I have to

696
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: say i can see a. Junior hammer out there she

697
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: seemed to have that same sort of, tenacity that she

698
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,479
Speaker 1: inherited certainly. That from her father she's got a bit

699
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: of a three. Point game as well so where? Are

700
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: we right now is she POTENTIALLY heading to the wnba

701
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: this season or sometime in the. Next, Couple, of.

702
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: Years yeah well.

703
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: It's a bit different with the women than it is

704
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: with the men, once you go pro and she's been

705
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: a pro for a.

706
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: Number of years now.

707
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: She left high school to PURSUE playing, basketball like i

708
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: did and so she's been PLAYING. Professionally in, the wnbl

709
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: this year she helped her team go from Last to

710
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: playing a Grand final Against This cambage and leilani mitchell

711
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: and she averaged.

712
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: Seventeen for the year. She's a good. KID she's unbelievably

713
00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: skilled a bigger.

714
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: Skill is a passion that's the biggest strength because she

715
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: just loves it and we've done so much training and

716
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: she's pushing me and she's just so dedicated to be

717
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 3: able to. Do what she does once, you've become pro

718
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: internationally the, year you turn.

719
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: Twenty you're nominated regardless you don't have to. Nominate in

720
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: the draft so she's in.

721
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: The draft next year, she just turned nineteen but she'll

722
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: be twenty at the. End of next year at the moment,

723
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: on the mock draft she's ranked anywhere between eight and

724
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: eleven on. The main mock drafts but she's up against

725
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: the college, kids that you know There's one of the

726
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: australian girls that's turning twenty six next year, that's been

727
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: there forever, and there's you know other kids that are twenty.

728
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: Two to twenty, four but you know she's certainly shown she's.

729
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: A first round pick She Was.

730
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: In the all Star Five of the world cup a

731
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: couple of.

732
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: Years ago with three Americans and, a big french girl

733
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: so a great Opportunity and you know i'm looking.

734
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: Forward to her sort of playing at that. Next level

735
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: she's ready do.

736
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: You think you'll move back over? To be, with her

737
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: you know if she does make it over here AND,

738
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: play in the nba do you think you will move

739
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: the family over.

740
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: To.

741
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: Be, with her na, no it's you know we're very,

742
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: close as a, family and you know she does all the,

743
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: preparation here with me and then we let her go

744
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: and give, her, own space you know so she Can

745
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: embark our own jennys and, have her own relationships and

746
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: you go through ups and downs and we speak every.

747
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: Day and everything else but anytime she's, PLAYING in a

748
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: season i sort of, leave her a line.

749
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: Like to sort of stay out of it a little

750
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: bit more and just be on the other.

751
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: End of the fund and then she comes, back and

752
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: we say we, get to the lab we, evolve our

753
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: game more and we just do THE same things that

754
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: i did of just training and training and training to

755
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: be able. To develop the, skills so she's, GOOD and

756
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: you know i can't wait to see.

757
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: HER get over there.

758
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: A big moment in any father and child relationship is

759
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: when the child becomes. Better than the, PARENT so you

760
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: know i want to know has she hit dad with

761
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: a step back or a crossover and? Talked, a LITTLE

762
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: trash maybe.

763
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: Well i stopped playing one on one. With her, a

764
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: little you know she's Never Been a will because i've put,

765
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: Up the.

766
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: White flag i'm done she's holding their. Record at the

767
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: moment we do a drill where you have to make

768
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: one hundred threes at the end, of a tough session

769
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: and her record's one hundred out of.

770
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: One, hundred and six. Wow so.

771
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: Three balls it's unbelievable but we're laughing today because all

772
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: of the young, kids in, my camp you know they want,

773
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: a photo with her GOT no. Idea who i am it's,

774
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: like this OLD flake what do i want? To?

775
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: PHOTO with him for.

776
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: I think That Was like when Luka Doncic was in

777
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: los Angeles Last year and kobe, Bryant's, Daughter, was like

778
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: dad dad can you get Me A. Photo with, luka

779
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: doncic you Know like you see, kobe rest in peace go.

780
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: If you see him that. Just as the dad they're

781
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: taking a photo Of His. Daughter WITH luka, DONCIC so

782
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: i guess i guess that's pretty humbling for a dad

783
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: when you know YOU'VE been in the Nba you've played

784
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: for australia and all of a, sudden, people are, like

785
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: sorry old man your daughter. Is, The SUPERSTAR now yeah and.

786
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: I think as apparent i've got three, Daughters and you

787
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: know i'm equally as proud.

788
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: Of all of them even though the other.

789
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: Two two other things and you want the, best for

790
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: your kids so when you see them that they've found,

791
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: their love, in life their.

792
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: Passion and they're, putting so much time and you want

793
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: to see them rewarded for. All the hard. Work and

794
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: she is she's.

795
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 3: Got, a great opportunity now she's got a great, head

796
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: on her shoulder she's got her mum's personality and she's.

797
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: Humble and everything else.

798
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: So we'll keep that but she's got a little bit

799
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 3: of it gets on the floor and a bit of fire.

800
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: From me as well so it's not. A, bad bland

801
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: that yeah we're just we're just proud of her and

802
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 3: happy to.

803
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: See, her do them well do they ever ask, you

804
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: about that Incident you know, With, charles and, say dad

805
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: you know what the? Hell? Are you, doing that, guy's,

806
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: like You know well actually, charles isn't, THAT big, real

807
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: easy i mean he's undersized for a power forward but

808
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: there's that sort of there's that camera angle where it,

809
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: looks like, he's like you know about six foot ten,

810
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: and you're, sort of you know the camera is coming

811
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: from behind you like that you only look like you're,

812
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: about five foot four but you're sort of like. IN his,

813
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: face there i mean, do, they, ever say dad like

814
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: how did you live?

815
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: To?

816
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 3: Tell the tale well it's funny because, most of the

817
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: time they're the only times that. Have seen me play is,

818
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: that it's, come up you know all the. Time on

819
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: social media so the kids sort of see that and watch,

820
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 3: a bit of that. And that's about it and it's

821
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: amazing how, many, friends that say mate she. Plays just,

822
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 3: like you you know she's. A lot, of, tapes, i'm

823
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: like nah mat.

824
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: It's just the. Drills that we do i'll give, her

825
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 2: the same drills so she's, doing those same things but hardly.

826
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: See see me play but.

827
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: It is funny because more people my. Age will come

828
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 3: up i'll ast somebody either every day or every second day,

829
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 3: COME up and say.

830
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: I remember when you took, on that big.

831
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: Guy Took on that, Big Shaquille O'Neil, guy and I'm, like.

832
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: It, WAS charles but. Yeah, I, remember.

833
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: Too okay well what we do now on our podcast

834
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: and we. Play a little game it's Just It's. Called

835
00:35:52,080 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: What you've got and i'm going to present, two SCENARIOS

836
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: to you and i just want you to pick one

837
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: and tell me why, you would pick one and. We'll

838
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: have some fun and some of them are basketball or

839
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: lated and some. Of, Them, are not okay, now the

840
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: first one it's an interesting one because a, Couple Of

841
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: weeks ago bradley, beal scored Sixty points, but THE wizards

842
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: lost and i know. YOU scored sixty one i believe

843
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: was YOUR. HIGHEST in the nbl i don't know if

844
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: that came in a, win OR a loss but i

845
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: know that was. Your career high there so would you

846
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: rather score sixty? Points in a loss would you rather

847
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: score or would you rather score zero? And get the Win.

848
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: That's a great that, is A great question and. I'll

849
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: answer that honestly we did win in my.

850
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: SIXTY one point game i, reckon when you're younger you

851
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 3: want the sixty one and then if you take.

852
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: The, loss along the.

853
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 3: Way you'll get it but you know you're trying to

854
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 3: do your best you can and pave your way at the.

855
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: End of your career it's. More about the wins it's

856
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 3: more about playing the role. You're trying to win you're trying,

857
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: to win a championship and you'll appreciate that more. Later

858
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: ON your careers how i think it's probably split in

859
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,959
Speaker 3: two between me Being.

860
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: Young, and me yeah.

861
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: Well we talked about it on, the PODCAST we, do, and,

862
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: I said Well listen i think i'd take sixty In,

863
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: a loss in January but if it's game, Seven of

864
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: the finals i'll take the.

865
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: Zero and.

866
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: A win that's fine i can handle not scoring. In

867
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: the championship game but, in, the regular. SEASON sure, sixty points.

868
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's great i'm Going, to talk about okay

869
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: now we've kind of briefly. Touched on this subject the

870
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: best teammate that you ever PLAYED With In. The nba

871
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: kevin garnette i'm PICKING the two that i think it,

872
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: Would Be down To Kevin. Garnette, or tim duncan.

873
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: Oh. THAT'S a Great Question i say TIM duncan Only

874
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: Because i reckon kevin garnette would have been a much

875
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: better teammate.

876
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 3: LATER on his career i played with him with, his nineteen,

877
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: great guy you know really high and really low and everything.

878
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 3: Else And Good, guy but tim duncan it's just unbelievably.

879
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: Cal't for a superstar, he set the time he did

880
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 3: all the. Work and everything else he. Was a great

881
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 3: TEAMMATE the first time I Remember speaking to tim, DUNCAN

882
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: one on one i was actually.

883
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: IN the ice bath i was the only one in

884
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: The Whole. Thing in san antonio WAS the first day

885
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: i got there and he WALKED in and, he i, was.

886
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: Like Oh Shit this is tim duncan walked over and

887
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: the first thing he said.

888
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: Is DO you mind if i call your? Hammer Whatever You.

889
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: Want you're tim duncan.

890
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: That must have, been pretty, cool though you know like,

891
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: you're probably you know IN a situation where i wonder

892
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: if this guy, even knows my name but instead. HE knows,

893
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: my nickname i mean that, must feel like okay at

894
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: least you know he doesn't have an. Ego about him anyway.

895
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: That. Was real cool.

896
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: Okay one More Here. From the basketball world best shooter

897
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: in your Opinion In Basketball History ray Allen Steph Curry Or.

898
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: Andrew Gaze steph curry. STEPH curry, without doubt.

899
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: I mean what he can do with his range and

900
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: how quick he is to be able to catch. It

901
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 3: and shoot it how great he is to be able

902
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: to get it off of a dribble off a.

903
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: Step back of. Ease Is Absolutely incredible.

904
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: So steph curry for me first Rail And second and

905
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 3: andrew gays, is just below.

906
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: Me, just below, you yeah WELL yeah, the, Reason i mean,

907
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: like i'm, not Sure You know maybe klay thompson could have.

908
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: Been put in there there's, other GUYS as, well but

909
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: i wondered Did You go against ray allen at some

910
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: point in when You played There In? Minnesota, or, san antonio.

911
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: Course yeah, AND again you know i was only there

912
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 3: for a season AND a half, before I got injured

913
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 3: so i got to watch most of those guys, more

914
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 3: than anything else and didn't.

915
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: Really go as head to HEAD like you know I

916
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: would have if i.

917
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: Had to stay longer but just seeing them firsthand just

918
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 3: next level, with what, they do different size.

919
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: Quickness, and, Everything Else.

920
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: WELL yeah ray allen i got to see him warm

921
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: up a few, times down at games and the preparation

922
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: he would put in even when he, was in you

923
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: know the latest stage of his. Career was, just incredible

924
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: you know out there three, hours before, the, game warming

925
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: up practicing, not just three pointers every, shot in close,

926
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: range off, the dribble you know around screens. And things

927
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: like that so when you see him out on the

928
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: court hit that Shot Like Against the san antonio spurs

929
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: that basically extended that series to give him, the win the, championship, it's,

930
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: not like. Oh wow, that's, incredible it's like, well he

931
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 1: practices that and he's been practicing it, for his entire.

932
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 1: Career so You Know that's and steph. CURRY is, the same,

933
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: i mean, You know his dad dell, obviously A great

934
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: shooter but steph puts in the, work and you know

935
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: his range and the way that he's changed. The game,

936
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 1: IS incredible So yeah i think steph's the. BEST shooter

937
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: ever too i. Think, he's just remarkable okay now You,

938
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: WERE born in. Melbourne i know that so you did

939
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: You grow up in melbourne or did You. Grow, UP

940
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: in sydney.

941
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 3: Now I grew UP in melbourne until i went to

942
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: THE institutors for, when i was sixteen had a year

943
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 3: then and then just went straight TO the pros.

944
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: When I was Seventeen but. I called sydney home now

945
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: you can. Chuse where you were this is The.

946
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: Best, lifestyle in australia okay well, that this next question

947
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: then you'll be able. To relate to it scoring ONE

948
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: hundred On The mcg on boxing day or bagging Six Goals.

949
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: In the grand final, i'm, Going six goals man oh like.

950
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: Six goals, For sure for ME i'm. A massive afl.

951
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 3: FAN i grew up i had to MAKE a decision,

952
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: when i Was fifteen played FOR carlton or am I

953
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: going To the institute of SPORT and love my afl

954
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 3: Six Goals in a grand final in front of one

955
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 3: hundred thousand every.

956
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: Day of the week.

957
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: Did you you? Were number twenty three was dermy the? Reason? For,

958
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: Twenty three.

959
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah and it's funny because, when you play basketball

960
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: people think you chose It, obviously Because Of Michael but

961
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 3: matt jerman, brenan was, you know, he died he's Hair

962
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: he had the ferraris all.

963
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: The rest, OF it so junior I whatt TWENTY three

964
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: and when, I started, playing Professionally i said oh i'm going.

965
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 2: TO carry that on i. Want number twenty three. So that's.

966
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: Why, Nice, it's nice Okay well staying in melbourne because

967
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: the big events. COMING up THERE soon i Think I.

968
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: Hope the australian open would You Rather win the australian

969
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: open in front of Your hometown fans in melbourne, or

970
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: THE bigger event Which. I think is wimbledon which one?

971
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: WOULD you Choose there i think I'd.

972
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: Picked this train open after playing In the two thousand,

973
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 3: olympics And you know say atlanta probably would have been much.

974
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: Bigger on a world stage and.

975
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 3: Dream teams And crowds playing in sydney was in front

976
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: of friends and family is just something that. Was SO

977
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 3: so special so i think being able to do that

978
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: and with friends and family.

979
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: Would be very good.

980
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: What was it Like when you captain australia the Two

981
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: thousand and Four, Olympics there in, athens because you know

982
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: that must have been a real sign of respect that

983
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: you got that honor to lead the team out there

984
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: to victory and what turned out To Be your last Olympic.

985
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: GAMES there for australia.

986
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: I mean it.

987
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: Was A, huge Honor andrew Gas, and andrew Vlahof Luke

988
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 3: along with mark brady all. RETIRED in two thousand i

989
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 3: came back to be Able To play for prime gorge

990
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: in and lead a really Young Team, that included andrew.

991
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: Boges so huge honor it wasn't one of The better teams.

992
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 3: That i'd played on it's a lot of fun and

993
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 3: a lot of players were blooded from that EXPERIENCE and

994
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 3: just something i get to be chaired off at The,

995
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 3: end of, fourth olympics you.

996
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: Know and, they're green and GOLD is something that.

997
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: I very much cherish I was actually In athens FOR

998
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: the olympics and i was In the arena FOR. Australia

999
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: versus the usa we had a big, lead EARLY on,

1000
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: TOO and, I, thought I thought wow maybe australia is

1001
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: going to. Pull this one off But because they had

1002
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: Lebron And, they had dwayne wade BUT they were OBVIOUSLY

1003
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: i think that i guess they were rookies or they

1004
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: just finished their ROOKIE, season IN the nba and i

1005
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: thought THAT wasn't the strongest usa, team BY any, means

1006
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: and i thought there's A chance here that. Australia could

1007
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: do this but in the end they got. Us in

1008
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: the end but that was that was a great atmosphere in,

1009
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: the arena, just again you know because you travel around

1010
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: the world and when you when you get to know

1011
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: Join that join the australian contingent and, have the camaraderie

1012
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: There cheering on the aussies. TO get their victories a

1013
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: lot of fun just just fell a couple. Of, points

1014
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: short unfortunately, okay last. Question, HERE last one now i

1015
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: know you're a bit, of A rockert too So i'm

1016
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: going to i'm going to sort. OF old school music

1017
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: i think this is. In your wheelhouse Here i'm Going In.

1018
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: Excess or cold chisel if you could see one, of

1019
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: those bands live which one? Would You?

1020
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: Go, to.

1021
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 3: In EXCESS yeah definitely well i was in the car

1022
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 3: the other day with my daughters and they, had the

1023
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: music BLARING and they Have.

1024
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 2: Wap on and. I'VE shaken my head i remember.

1025
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: On a school bus she Used to listen to disat.

1026
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 2: Song on AND they listened AND i felt like i was. One, hundred,

1027
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: years old.

1028
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 1: Well look this has been, A. LOT of fun shade

1029
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: i really appreciate you take the time. To join us

1030
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: here it's been great. Going down, memory lane, and really

1031
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: you know all The, best, Too FOR shilah, RIGHT like

1032
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: i say i know that you know she's it looks

1033
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: like she will be HEADING to the N w n b.

1034
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: A at some point that must. MAKE you very Proud

1035
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: i know you're you're proud, of all, your kids of

1036
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: course but seeing her follow in dad's. Footsteps must be

1037
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: incredible so it's been a lot of, fun talking to

1038
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: you and thank YOU very much and i wish.

1039
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 2: You all the best, Thanks for having.

1040
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: Me thanks a lot you could stay.

1041
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 2: Every day and are.

1042
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: You happy every.

1043
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: Minute it's been so long that your mona way. For

1044
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: it's happened already it's kind of a guy