1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: you as well, and we have a lot to talk 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: about on this episode, including Zelensky coming to Washington begging 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: for more money that involves you crave funding, which involves 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: funding at the border, which involves funding with Israel, and 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: if that's not enough for you, we also have an 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: update on impeachment moving its way through the House. Senator, 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: let's go back to the very beginning, and it was 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: a wild day on Capitol Hill. You've got Zelensky who 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: comes to town, he's asking for money. The thread that 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: we've seen of kind of headlines here from the Democrats 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: is you must stand with them no matter what, forever importuity, Amen, 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: And you can't ask questions about where the money's going 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: or transparency. We've just got to write then this blank 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: check And how dare you Republicans tie this to border security? 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: Give me your initial reaction to that. 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: Zelensky's coming to Washington yesterday was designed. It's a manifestation 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 3: of the Democrats not living in reality. Chuck Schumer does 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 3: not believe that Republicans are serious about securing the border. 21 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 3: He's in absolute denial and I got to say, the 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: supplemental bill on Ukraine, the border in Israel, the entire 23 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: thing is in a stalemate, and I think it is 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 3: very possible this thing will not pass for a long 25 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: time because Schumer and the Democrats they're living in an 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: alternate reality and they're just assuming Republicans will cave. Now, sadly, 27 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: that is a reasonable assumption in a lot of instances. 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: Senate Republicans in particular, are are pretty quick to cave. 29 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: I don't think that's going to happen in this instance, 30 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: and Schumer and the Democrats don't believe it. And so 31 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: Zelensky came this week to Washington because they're trying to 32 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: bludgeon Republicans into set saying Ukraine really really really needs 33 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: the money, rather than Look, there have been a lot 34 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: of Republicans. House Republicans have made very clear there will 35 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 3: be no Ukraine bill without serious, strong border security. And 36 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 3: right now the Democrats are saying, we won't do border security, 37 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: but give us the Ukraine money. Anyway, that ain't going anywhere. 38 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was also saying that the news Speaker of 39 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: the House Mike Johnson referred to. He said, look, they 40 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: basically went silent when referring to negotiations with Republicans on 41 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: this US border security package. Take a listen to what 42 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: he had to say on Fox News. 43 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 4: Significant steps that are happening, negotiations still going on. Secretary 44 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 4: Mariorcis and others in the administration about changes. 45 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 1: Well, I hope. 46 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 5: So. 47 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 6: Look, I've been crystal clear about this. You know, if 48 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 6: we're going to have a national security package of spending, 49 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 6: national security begins at our own border. This is about 50 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 6: our own sovereignty. That these are policy changes that could 51 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 6: be easily made. But the White House has been very reluctant. 52 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 6: They really went silent on us all of this time. 53 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 6: I've been the Speaker for a little over six weeks, 54 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 6: almost seven weeks, and since the day I was handed 55 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 6: the gavel, I've been saying that this was the condition 56 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 6: that we had to do this first, and we passed 57 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 6: HR two. The House passed our bill six months ago. 58 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 6: It's been sitting on the desk of Chuck Schumer ever since. 59 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 6: They've not taken it seriously. And here we are at 60 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 6: the end of the year, and now they're saying we've 61 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 6: run out of time. It's not the House's fault. 62 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: Yes, here is Center Minority Leader Mitch McConnell on the 63 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: timing of all this Sticklers. 64 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 7: They're leaving at the end of the week, so all 65 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 7: I have said is practically impossible. Even though we reach 66 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 7: an agreement to craft it, get it through the Senate, 67 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 7: get it through the House before Christmas, that doesn't mean 68 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 7: it's not important. And even though we've been emphasizing the border, 69 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 7: I want to remind everybody of the importance of Ukraine. 70 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 4: So just logistically, it would you send the house home 71 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: and then call them back if there's a deal, or 72 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: just punt everything to January. 73 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 6: Look, the House will do its work if there was 74 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 6: a deal, but it has not materialized, and as of tonight, 75 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 6: they have given us the cold shoulders, so they're ignoring 76 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 6: this what I believe is the top priority of the 77 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 6: American people. It doesn't matter where I've been in the 78 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 6: country over the last few weeks, Brett, whether I'm in 79 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 6: New York or the southeast or out west, they all 80 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 6: say the same thing. They're deeply concerned about what's happening. 81 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 6: We had twelve thousand people come over that border one 82 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 6: day last week and Wednesday. If you look at the 83 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 6: statistics from October November and so far in December more 84 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 6: people have crossed that border illegally since any entire year 85 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 6: during the Obama administration. It is not a sustainable situation. 86 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 6: It is a harm in our country in ways that 87 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 6: are hard to describe, and we have to get on top. 88 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: So here's my question. 89 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: You hear the Senate majority leader there, obviously, Mitch McConnell, 90 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: and implying like, hey, there's no deal. So if they 91 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: think this is going to get done before Christmas, that's 92 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: just not reality. Then you have this speaker saying the 93 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: White House went silent on us on border package, and 94 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: he said the policy change is easily made, but the 95 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: White House has been very reluctant to do this. So 96 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: Redisin behind the scenes, why is it this much of 97 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: a hell bent answer from the Democrats not to secure 98 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: a southern border knowing these numbers we talked about twelve 99 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: thousand coming across just last Wednesday alone. 100 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: Because the Democrats right now are in a state of denial, 101 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: Let's rewind. 102 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago. 103 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: Two weeks ago, we had a classified briefing in the Senate, 104 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: had every senator in there. 105 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: It was on Ukraine. 106 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: It had the Secretary of State, it had the Secretary 107 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 3: of Defense, it had the intelligence agencies there, and the 108 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: entire purpose of the briefing was to say, Ukraine really, 109 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: really really needs the money. 110 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 8: Now. 111 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: On the Republican side, the Republican position for a long 112 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 3: time has been this bill will not move without real 113 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: border security. And so right at the outset, when we 114 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: got to the questions, most of the briefing questions from 115 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 3: the senators, Republicans began to make clear, all right, well 116 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 3: where are we on border security? And Chuck Schumer, what 117 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 3: happened is something I've never seen before. There was a 118 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: screaming match down in the skiff, down in the secure 119 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: facility where we're having the classified briefing, where senators are 120 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: screaming at the top of their lungs at each other, 121 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 3: and several senators stormed out. I've never seen that. And 122 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: what precipitated it is Schumer sat back and crossed his 123 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: arms and he was defiant. He was like, no, we 124 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 3: are not doing border security. This is not a part 125 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 3: of it. It's not gonna happen. That's not what this 126 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: briefing is about. And we're not even going to talk 127 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 3: about it. And a whole lot of Republicans got pissed. 128 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: Now that was the defiance two weeks ago, and Schumer 129 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 3: bizarrely believes that that is a reasonable and viable negotiating position. Now, 130 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 3: last week David Cameron was in town. David Cameron, you'll remember, 131 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: it was the former prime of the United Kingdom. He's 132 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 3: now the Foreign Minister of the United Kingdom. So he's 133 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: back in the government. This time he's Foreign Minister instead 134 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: of Prime Minister. And so he came to Washington, d c. 135 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: And often when you have heads of state or senior 136 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: officials from foreign countries, they will sit down and meet 137 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: for coffee with the members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. 138 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: And so I'm on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and 139 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,679 Speaker 3: so I went to that coffee and so we're sitting 140 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: it's in a very cool it's a ceremonial room in 141 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: the capital, that is the Foreign Relations Committee room. And 142 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: when we have it there, they put a tablecloth on 143 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: this table that's, you know, one hundred plus years old, 144 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: and they serve tea and china. It's it's kind of 145 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: very old school, and you sit around talking with the 146 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: head of state or in this case, the British Foreign minister, 147 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: and he was there talking about Ukraine. He was part 148 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: of the lobbying effort to say, you gotta get money 149 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: to Ukraine, you gotta give money to Ukraine. And I 150 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: got to the coffee a few minutes late, so I 151 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: was near the end of the order of the senators 152 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: who were commenting or speaking, and so I heard senator 153 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: after senator, mostly Democrats, just saying everything is wonderful and 154 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: peachy keen, and we're going to vote out more Ukraine 155 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: funding and it's going to happen. And at one point 156 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: Bob Menendez, Democrat from New Jersey, he was talking about 157 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: he mentioned the border briefly and he said, look, the border. 158 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: The problem there is there's a lot of poverty in 159 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: Latin America, and that's really we're never going to fix 160 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: this until until we cure poverty in Central and South America. 161 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: So that's what we need to do, is make them 162 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: rich countries and we won't. 163 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: Have that problem. 164 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: So it got to me and I said said to Cameron, 165 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: I said, listen, number one, it's not your job to 166 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 3: try to resolve our border security problems. You're here representing 167 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: the government of the United Kingdom. However, you should know, 168 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: because you have a distinct interest in knowing this, that 169 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: right now, this Ukraine bill is going nowhere. It is dead. 170 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 3: And the reason you just heard, you just heard a 171 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 3: bunch of Democrats blow and smoke up your rear end. 172 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: They're just telling you everything is fine. And so I 173 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: actually relayed the story to Cameron about what had happened 174 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: the preceding week in the classified briefing, where Schumer had 175 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 3: defiantly said we'll do nothing and people had screamed and 176 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 3: stormed out, And I said, I said to Cameron, listen, 177 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 3: I don't know what is wrong with my Democrat colleagues. 178 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 3: But Number one, the chances of a bill that funds 179 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: Ukraine and doesn't secure the border, the chances of that 180 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 3: passing the House are zero point zero zero percent. There 181 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: is no way. Mike Johnson's been saying that from the 182 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: day became speaker. 183 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: Zero chance. 184 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: And Schumer and the Democrats are just incomplete denial. And 185 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: I said, let me be clear, I think the chances 186 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 3: are exceptionally slim it would pass the Senate. I can 187 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: tell you the Senate Republican conference is as unified on 188 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 3: this issue as I've ever seen it. You played a 189 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: minute ago the clip from Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell may 190 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 3: be the biggest Ukraine hawk among the Republicans. He wants 191 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: to fund Ukraine. And even Mitch is holding firm on this. 192 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 3: We don't have any defectors on the Republican side. And 193 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: the bizarre thing is Schumer is just in utter denial, 194 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 3: and the other Democrats are as well. And by the way, 195 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: I pointed out, you know, Menendez said, well, gosh, it's 196 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: just poverty in Latin America. I said, with all due 197 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 3: respect to what Bob said, you know what, there's been 198 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 3: poverty in Latin America a long time. That's not the 199 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: cause of this crisis. When Biden came into power, he 200 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: inherited the lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty five years. 201 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: You know what, there was poverty in Latin America then too. 202 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: The reason for the crisis is Joe Biden and his 203 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: administration refused to follow the law. They've implemented catch and 204 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 3: release and the numbers of skyrocketed. Nine point six million 205 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 3: ELI legal aliens have crossed under Joe Biden. And what 206 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: I said at this this coffee with the Senate for 207 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: Relations Committee, I said, listen, Eric Adams, the liberal Democrat 208 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 3: mayor of New York City, says that one hundred and 209 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: ten thousand illegal immigrants in New York City are a 210 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: crisis and they are destroying New York City. Now he's 211 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 3: right about that, Yeah, But if one hundred and ten 212 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: thousand are doing that to New York City, what in 213 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 3: the hell do you think nine point six million are 214 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: doing to Texas and the other states of the southern border. 215 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 3: And so I made that point to Cameron. And the 216 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: bizarre thing is, listen, I had multiple conversations with my 217 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: Democrat colleagues today. They still believe, oh, we'll reach a 218 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: deal on this, you know, just some reasonable compromise. 219 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 9: You know. 220 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: One one Democrat senator suggested to me, well, well, maybe 221 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: the White House will agree to reinstate Title forty two. Well, no, 222 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: forget it. That is not When Title forty two was 223 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: in place, we still had the worst illegal immigration in history, 224 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: and they got. 225 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: Title forty two. What that was, because some of you 226 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: may not remember. 227 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: So Title forty two was a law that allowed individuals 228 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 3: to be sent back because of COVID and so it 229 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: was the one area where Biden was not practicing catch 230 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 3: and release, where there was some limited deportation, and then 231 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: they ended Title forty two and they decided, okay, everyone 232 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 3: gets to stay. Basically the problem that goes right to 233 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: the heart of this why do we have a border crisis? 234 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 3: Three words, catch and release. Joe Biden unilaterally ended the 235 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 3: Remain in Mexico agreement and began when people got apprehended, 236 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: they release them. As long as we do catch and release, 237 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: the border will not be secure. And by the way, 238 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 3: you could build one hundred foot tall wall and put 239 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: ten million troops on the southern border. If you did 240 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 3: catch and release, you'd still have a border crisis. Why 241 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: because when the people crossed and turned themselves into the 242 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: ten million soldiers, Joe Biden would then release them, so 243 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 3: they'd keep coming. 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You know something else that's interesting, Centator, 273 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: about what you were just talking about with the Democrats 274 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: and them not understanding the reality the situation is. 275 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: There was Senator at Raphael Warnock. 276 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: He went on MSNBC and made it very clear that 277 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: he said, you know, this is the Republican's fault, this 278 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: is Republicans not willing to support Ukraine, and cynically he 279 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 2: called it using the border issue. I want you to 280 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: here two things here that made me laugh. One the 281 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: hysterical bowing down to Warnock introduction. I can't not play 282 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: it and that just made me laugh. Welcome to MSNBC, right, 283 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: And then the second thing is is him trying to 284 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: go on offense against Republicans with a terrible argument. 285 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: Take a listen. 286 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 9: Helpful to have a pastor around, even better if they're 287 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 9: also a senator. And joining me now is Senator and 288 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 9: Reverend Raphael Warnock and Georgia, senior pastor at Doctor King's Church, 289 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 9: Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta. Happy Holidays in advance, Merry 290 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 9: Christmas in advanced. 291 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 8: Happy holidays. Great to be with. 292 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: You, Thank you. 293 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 8: It is good to see something that's taking the preacher's voice. 294 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 8: But I'll do my best. 295 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: That's okay, Liotle. 296 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 9: Preacher can always find their voice. That's one thing I 297 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 9: know about a pastor. But let's talk about all of 298 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 9: the Let's go through a few other things. I want 299 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 9: to start with Ukraine. In the House as well as 300 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 9: some in the United States Senate, there is this resistance 301 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 9: to providing funding for Ukraine, which is still suffering this 302 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 9: attack from Russia, trying to trade things like border border policy, 303 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 9: border security for funding jd Vance saying basically that Ukraine 304 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 9: should seed land and cut a deal. What in the 305 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 9: world is going on on the other side of the aisle. 306 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 8: That's a very good question. I'll tell you that this 307 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 8: is politics in the worst sense of the word. There 308 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 8: is no replacement for American leadership in the world. I 309 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 8: have had occasion now on a few opportunities to hear 310 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 8: President Zelensky, to meet him, and I think he's just 311 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 8: a very impressive person who is standing up in a 312 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 8: critical moment, not only for his country but in terms 313 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 8: of the world order. And it's unfortunate that I've got 314 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 8: colleagues who are reducing such an important geopolitical crisis to 315 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 8: typical political horse trading. Look, there are issues at the 316 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 8: border and they need to be addressed. I for one, 317 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 8: am open to any reasonable bipartisan proposal that will get 318 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 8: there on the way to what we really need. It's 319 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 8: comprehensive immigration reform. But this is one of the most 320 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 8: fraught issues in our political system, and so unfortunately not everybody, 321 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 8: not all the Republicans. But on the other side you 322 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 8: have some Republicans who are not willing to support Ukraine 323 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 8: no matter what, and so they're just using this issue 324 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 8: of the border, which is very serious in the most 325 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 8: cynical way. I hope that at the end of the day, 326 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 8: Kula heads will prevail. Certainly, we don't want to see 327 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 8: American soldiers on the ground as Putin continues his aggressive 328 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 8: move across Europe. I think it only makes sense for 329 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 8: us to support our friends in Ukraine. 330 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but by the way, I just have to go 331 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: to the very end part there when he says, well, 332 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: it's almost like a weird threat. And this is like 333 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: the third or fourth time I've heard this this week 334 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: from Democrats. Well, if you guys don't give the funding, 335 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: you may see American troops over there. 336 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: So you should really give. 337 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: This funding because if you don't, then it's your fault 338 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: that we have to send American troops. That is the 339 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: most messed up negotiating I've ever seen from Democrats. And 340 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of pretty crappy stuff. You've seen 341 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: more being in Washington Center. But that's a whole nother 342 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: level of vile politics that I just don't I can't 343 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: beliether even trying it. 344 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: Well, look, you got to understand that that those comments 345 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 3: that that Raphael Warnock made were filled with hypocrisy and 346 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 3: sadly with dishonesty. You know, it started right at the 347 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: beginning by emphasizing that he's a pastor. It's true, although 348 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 3: I'll tell you I've never seen a pastor that refuses 349 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: to say Merry Christmas. That he insists on saying Happy Holidays, 350 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: because it turns out more important than being a pastor 351 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 3: is he's a Democrat and Merry Christmas is not allowed 352 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 3: for Democrats to say. But then when he gets into 353 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 3: the substance, he gets very moralistic about American leadership on Ukraine. 354 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 3: You know what, Raphael Warnock didn't mention that it was 355 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 3: Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer that caused the war in 356 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: Ukraine when they refuse to vote in favor of my 357 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: sanctions to Sanctionstream two. I had shut down nord Stream two. 358 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 3: I had passed legislation that shut it down. And on 359 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: the day of the vote, Joe Biden came personally to 360 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 3: Capitol Hill and lobbied the Democrat senators. Now, actually Raphael 361 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 3: Warnock voted with me, but forty four Democrats flipped their 362 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 3: votes at Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer's behest and voted in 363 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: favor of Russia and putin and against sanctioning the pipeline. 364 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 3: And weeks later Russia invaded Ukraine. So he admitted no 365 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: responsibility for his own party in causing this war. He 366 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 3: also admitted no responsibility of the Biden administration for funding 367 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 3: both sides of this war, for sending billions of dollars 368 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 3: to Iran that is used to make drones that Russia 369 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 3: is using to kill Ukrainian soldiers that right now Biden 370 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 3: is literally funding both sides of the war. He admits 371 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 3: no fault there, and Stad he moralizes, and he says 372 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: on the border he's open to reasonable quote bipartisan solutions. 373 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: What Boloney, Raphael Warnock and the rest of the Democrats 374 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: have voted every single time, over and over and over 375 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 3: again in favor of open borders, against anything to secure 376 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: the border. They have not budged even once. And I 377 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: will say I will invite Raphael, I will invite any 378 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 3: of my Democratic colleagues come with me to the border. 379 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 3: See the dead bodies that Texas farmers and ranchers find 380 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: every day. Look in the eyes of the children who 381 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: were being sexually assaulted and brutalized by the human traffickers. 382 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 3: Look in the eyes of the women who've been violently raped. 383 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 3: Look in the eyes of the parents who've had kids 384 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: who they've lost to fentanyl and drug overdoses because of 385 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 3: the drug traffickers. This is an existential crisis. And you 386 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: hear him saying, well, it's just playing politics. Listen. The 387 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: position of Republicans, quite reasonably is that we're not going 388 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 3: to focus on securing Ukraine's border until we secure our 389 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: own border, because right now, Joe Biden and the Democrats 390 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 3: led by Chuck Schumer have an open invitation to Hamas 391 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: and Hezbeala terrorists to cross our southern order and Ben, 392 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 3: we are living on borrow time. I think it is 393 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 3: only a matter of time before we see tragically another 394 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: major terrorist attack because this administration is doing nothing to 395 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 3: prevent terrorists from coming in and they've sat by and 396 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: allowed nine point six million to come into this country. 397 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: You know, the other day, and this is the clip 398 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: we played a moment ago. There was I think it 399 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: was when you say twelve thousand, thirteen thousand league immigrants 400 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: and came across the. 401 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 3: Border for twelve thousand and one. 402 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, on Wednesday. 403 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: When you have twelve thousand people coming across the border 404 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: in one day, terrorists are not stupid. They understand that 405 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: that means there's a very good chance that you'll be 406 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 2: able to get terrorists in because a lot of the 407 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 2: twelve thousand are people that want to be are turning 408 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: themselves into the discoverment because of all the free stuff 409 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: they get. 410 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: They're not afraid of border patrol. 411 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 3: There's sick and ben That twelve thousand doesn't include the 412 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 3: god away. So as concerning as the twelve thousand is, 413 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 3: the number that is more concerning are the godaways of 414 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 3: the people that run Those are the ones that are 415 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: likely to be the criminals that are likely to be 416 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: the terrorists that are on the terror watch list that 417 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 3: are the rea that are the gang members, Those are 418 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 3: the ones that are really dangerous, and we have no idea. 419 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 3: What we do know, and what this podcast has covered 420 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 3: is the border patrol agents have been instructed to be 421 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: on guard for Hamas and Hesbela terrorists coming in. 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I also want to play something else, 457 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: and this goes back to the issue you're talking about 458 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 2: with border security. 459 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: And there was one. 460 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 2: Democrat that it actually made me laugh. 461 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: He was on CNN. They were talking about that. 462 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 2: At the bottom of the screen it said Russia's war 463 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 2: in Ukraine's Lenska in Washington to ask for more aid, 464 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: and they had on a House Democrat by the name 465 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: of Representative Multon, and he was actually telling a lot 466 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 2: of truth about the Democrats and what their real objective is. 467 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: And there's words I want everybody to listen for here. 468 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 2: I want you to listen to how he talks about 469 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 2: a pathway his citizenship and how he loves the number 470 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: of legal immigrants coming across their border. And he's saying, look, 471 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: I'm not willing to give that up just to give 472 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: funding to Ukraine, which the Republicans are demanding. 473 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: Take a listen. 474 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,239 Speaker 10: Notitible to hear from President Zelenski today say that the 475 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 10: Ukrainian economy has grown five percent this year, this after 476 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 10: and now second year in brutal war with Russia. That 477 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 10: obviously sending a message to lawmakers here that their help 478 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 10: has been effective and warranted and welcomed. We talk a 479 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 10: lot about Republicans not wanting to continue funding Ukraine, at 480 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 10: least without getting something in return. The President making clear 481 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 10: last week that he is willing to negotiate on border 482 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 10: security and take that issue seriously with more investments. How 483 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 10: is that sitting with some members of your own party 484 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 10: who may be worried, as has been reported, that he's 485 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 10: conceding too much on this front. 486 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: Well, here's the concern. 487 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 5: I think there are a lot of members of my 488 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 5: Democratic party that recognize we have to do more on 489 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 5: the border, that we need to strengthen the border, but 490 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,239 Speaker 5: we don't want to scuttle what we fundamentally need when 491 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 5: it comes to immigration policy in the United States, which 492 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 5: is a full immigration deal, a deal that not only 493 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 5: includes what Republicans want, which has increased border security, but 494 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 5: also what Democrats want, which is a pathway to citizenship 495 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 5: some hope for all the kids, for example, were brought 496 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 5: here years ago by their parents and yet are sitting 497 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 5: in legal limbo through no fault of their own. They 498 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 5: go to American schools, they participate in the American economy, 499 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 5: and yet they're not technically legal citizens. The vast majority 500 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 5: of Americans, Republicans and Democrats, want a fix for that 501 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 5: problem as well, but Republicans in Congress aren't willing to 502 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 5: do it unless it's paired with border security. So the 503 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 5: concern is that if the President bargains away what the 504 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 5: Republicans want on border security just to get aid on Ukraine. 505 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 5: Then it imperils the chances of what we really need 506 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 5: on immigration, which is full comprehensive reforms. 507 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 10: And a reminder for our viewers, this isn't just about 508 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 10: a to Ukraine. Obviously, this bill includes funding for Israel 509 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 10: and Taiwan as well. 510 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: All I mean, you just got to laugh, like it's like, 511 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: all right, Well, at least that guy was willing to 512 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: tell you the truth. 513 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: This is all about pathway. It's a citizenship. 514 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: Oh and then we'll get to the issue of funding 515 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: for Israel at the very end of the conversation, which, 516 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: by the way, you and I need to talk about 517 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: in LinkedIn a second. 518 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: But give me your reaction to this. 519 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: I mean, this is at least a Democrat saying, yeah, 520 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: we're all in favor of legals come across the border 521 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 2: at these rates, and we need to give them a 522 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 2: pathway to citizenship, and we're willing to make a trade 523 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: on that. 524 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 3: You know, there's an old line that a gaff is 525 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 3: when a politician tells the truth in Washington, and he 526 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 3: just let the cat out of the bag. It's interesting 527 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 3: he says, well, it's Republicans that want to secure the border, 528 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: not us, not us Democrats. You know, Democrats occasionally claim 529 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 3: they do. In fact, you just played Warnock claiming he did. 530 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 3: But Moulton is emitting, No, we don't care about that. 531 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: We don't care about that at all. What do we 532 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 3: care about amnesty? What do we care about a path 533 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 3: to citizenship? What do we care about turning every illegal 534 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: alien we can into a Democrat voter? It's only politics, 535 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 3: you know. What's striking Seth Moulton as someone who holds 536 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,719 Speaker 3: himself out as one of the more moderate Democrats, so 537 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: he typically is not lumped in with the crazies on 538 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: the left, and even a so called moderate Democrat, he's like, eh, 539 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 3: and we don't care about border security. And by the way, 540 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 3: he says he wants hope for the kids, Well, what 541 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 3: about hope for the little boys and the little girls 542 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 3: who are being brutalized, who are being sexually assaulted today? 543 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 3: Right now, today, there are children being assaulted by human traffickers. 544 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 3: The Democrats, literally, Ben do not care why there's a 545 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: political objective, what do they care about? They want citizenship 546 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 3: and if a bunch of children have to be violated. 547 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 3: That is a perfectly acceptable price. It is cynical, it 548 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 3: is cruel, it is evil, And I've seen too many 549 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: of these kids. I've looked in their eyes. I talked 550 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 3: about on Verdict the last time we were down there, 551 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 3: the ten year old girl that had an adult man 552 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 3: who claimed to be your father and obviously wasn't. And 553 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 3: when you've seen children being abused day after day, you 554 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 3: can't turn a blind eye to it. The entire Democrat Party, 555 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 3: that is their position, and they're simply in denial. And 556 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 3: right at the end, the CNN host I loved it 557 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: through it. Well, don't forget this is also about Israel 558 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 3: funding without mentioning because of course CNN they're not actual journalists, 559 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: they are propagandas they are, propaganda's for the left wing 560 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 3: of the Democrat Party. You know what she didn't mention. 561 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 3: The House of Representatives passed funding for Israel separate, completely 562 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 3: separate from this, and the Senate, as we talked about 563 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: in length on Verdict on a previous podcast, I and 564 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 3: several other Senators forced a vote on the Senate floor 565 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: to pass Israel funding separate from all of this, and 566 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: every single Democrat voted no. Chuck Schumer whipped against military 567 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 3: fi funding for Israel. And by the way, he did 568 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 3: this after several Democrat senators had just come from the 569 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 3: National Mall on the march for Israel. They walked onto 570 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: the Senate floor and voted against military funding for Israel. 571 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: And you know part of why they did that because 572 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: they knew the useful idiots at CNN and at the 573 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 3: Washington Post of the New York Times would not report 574 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: on it. They would tell nobody. So yes, it is true, 575 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 3: we don't have military aid to Israel that has passed yet. 576 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: And the reason is Chuck Schumer and the Democrats blocked it. 577 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,239 Speaker 3: And if they hadn't, that bill would have been on 578 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 3: Joe Biden's desk weeks ago. 579 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: Let's talk about that Israeli funding because this is really important. Obviously, 580 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: as you mentioned, Democrats said hell no to it. No one, 581 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 2: not a single Democrat would go with you guys, What 582 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: does it look like now moving forward and how desperate 583 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: is the need from Israel at this point? It's amazing 584 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: that Democrats are going all in with Ukraine and the 585 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: corruption there asking no questions, where as in Israel there's 586 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 2: none of those questions that need to be asked, and 587 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: there's transparency and we know what's going on, and yet 588 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 2: they're saying, ah, not so much. And even the White 589 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: House now is starting to distance themselves from Israel, changing 590 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: their tune a little bit over the last couple of days, 591 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: which is is what I expected. 592 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: It's also incredibly disheartening. 593 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 3: Well, look, the one word I disagree with that you 594 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 3: said there, as you said even the White House. Listen, 595 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: We've outlined at length on this podcast how this White 596 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: House is the most anti Israel White House we've ever had. Yeah, 597 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 3: joint and Joe Biden, this White House has been undermining 598 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 3: Israel from the day Biden was sworn in as president. Repeatedly, 599 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 3: and we've outlined from the very first minutes of this 600 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: attack on October seventh, this White House has been undermining Israel. 601 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: Has been urging Israel, do not retaliate, do not attack hamas, 602 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: do not kill the terrorists from day one. The State Department, 603 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 3: the State Department literally tweeted that out on the night 604 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 3: of October seventh, while people were still being murdered, while 605 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 3: women and children were being raped. The State Department is 606 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 3: tweeting out, Israel, do not respond militarily. Do not kill 607 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 3: the terrorists, and so, yes, you're right. The White House 608 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: doesn't really care about the Israel funding. In fact, we 609 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 3: know they don't because if they cared about it, we'd 610 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 3: pass it as a free standing bill. It has the 611 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: votes to pass as a free standing bill. But their 612 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 3: only interest on Israel funding is to use it as 613 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 3: a sweetener to try to convince Republicans to fund the 614 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: rest of the Democrats' priorities. 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I want 659 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 2: to also move to one other subject real quick that 660 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: I think is obviously an important one, and that is 661 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 2: to give an update on what's going on now with impeachment. 662 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 2: We've seen the House Committee is going to vote on impeachment. 663 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 2: The House Speaker Mike Johnson says the White House is 664 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 2: impeding the investigation to President Joe Biden and the next 665 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: step will be a vote to formalize an impeachment inquiry. 666 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 2: This also, as Fox News is reporting the hunter Biden 667 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: received two hundred and fifty thousand dollars wires originating in 668 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 2: Beijing with a beneficiary address listed as Joe Biden's home. 669 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: This is all about, as the House Oversight Committee put 670 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 2: with the Biden's influence pedaling and what they have been doing. 671 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 2: This vote center is a very important vote and it's 672 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 2: also going to give Republicans more power. Explain why this 673 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 2: vote is in important to happen now. 674 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 3: Well, the House has scheduled the vote today. It is 675 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 3: a vote on a resolution formalizing the impeachment inquiry into 676 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 3: President Biden. And previously the House had not scheduled that 677 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 3: vote because it wasn't clear that they had the votes 678 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 3: to pass it. And so Kevin McCarthy when he was Speaker, 679 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 3: he didn't schedule it because it looked like the votes 680 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 3: weren't there. What Republicans are telling the press at least 681 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 3: is it looks like the votes are there. And so 682 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 3: a number of the Republicans who are in blue districts 683 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 3: that Biden carried are now moving forward. So, for example, 684 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 3: Mike Garcia in California said, quote, there is enough substantiation 685 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 3: to move forward and quote the Executive branch made clear 686 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 3: they're not going to cooperate with the inquiry unless we 687 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 3: formalize it. So let's formalize it. Another one, Mark Boalinaro, 688 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 3: who's a Republican from New York again in a district 689 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 3: Biden carried, said quote Congress has every responsibility to provide oversight. 690 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 3: There are serious questions of impropriety. The White House and 691 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 3: the President have yet to comply with requests for information 692 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 3: and subpoenas, adding that he is quote inclined to support 693 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 3: the measure. And another Republican from New York again in 694 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 3: a district and in fact the most Democrat leaning district 695 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 3: of any Republican, Anthony Desposito, said said that he will 696 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 3: vote to authorize the inquiry. And so what we're hearing 697 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 3: is the votes are there. It's scheduled for a vote today, 698 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 3: and and the resolution directs the House Oversight, Judiciary, and 699 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 3: Ways and Means committees to quote continue their ongoing investigations 700 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 3: as a part of the existing House of Representatives inquiry 701 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 3: into whether sufficient grounds exist to impeach Biden. And so 702 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 3: formally voting this for this is a significant step forward, 703 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 3: and I'm glad they're going to do that. 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