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Speaker 2: It's like Friday, but it's Monday. For some people that

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Speaker 2: little bit, Tomorrow's Tuesday. If you're listening to this right

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Speaker 2: now on the podcast platform for FT, tomorrow is the

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Speaker 2: last live show of twenty twenty five. Last one last

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Speaker 2: live show of twenty twenty five. Now we will put

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Speaker 2: out other content we've been working hard on, some other

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Speaker 1: It might include movies.

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Speaker 2: It also will include some moves we're expecting for twenty

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Speaker 2: look forward to that. You'll have plenty of Shnanigan's today.

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Speaker 2: We have really good guests. I do want to make

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Speaker 2: sure we get to the big moves.

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Speaker 1: So let's hit it.

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Speaker 2: Charge about charging the mound Todd Father with a little

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Speaker 2: Wilson Contreras acquisition for the Boston Red Sox. Some fans

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Speaker 2: might look and say, hey, wait, we have a first

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Speaker 2: baseman named Tristan Cassis. Now he's coming off another big

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Speaker 2: They do have a DH position they can utilize for

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Speaker 2: still which we can get into as well, but they

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Speaker 2: can mix and match with that DH spot. But let's

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Speaker 2: focus on what happened here. Wilson Contreras has put a

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Speaker 2: very good numbers Tod Father and in his first year

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Speaker 2: at first base it looked pretty good defensively. The Red

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Speaker 2: Sox send Hunter Dobbins and name people know from his

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Speaker 2: rookie season, and he's the prize of the package plus

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Speaker 2: two other prospects four mister Contreras's services. Contreras also has,

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Speaker 2: let's see, forty one point five million bucks left in

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Speaker 2: his deal and the Red Sox are going to get

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Speaker 2: eight million of that coverage. So they're paying thirty six

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Speaker 1: Well, no, it's.

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Speaker 2: Thirty six and a half plus a buyout on a

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Speaker 2: dollars of that deal. There's a no trade cause for Contreras.

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Speaker 2: He waived it in order to go to Boston. What

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Speaker 2: do you think of this move for the Red Sox,

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Speaker 2: tod Father doesn't cost him a ton of money.

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Speaker 1: See you figure they still have some room left.

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Speaker 3: Alex Bragman, I couldn't hear you. You do say Alex pregnant.

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Speaker 2: I mean other times you're interested, but I'm just saying, like,

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Speaker 4: And I heard he's narrowed down to a couple of

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Speaker 4: you talked about him a lot, Scott, and I remember,

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Speaker 4: you know, we had that conversation about man, he'd be

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Speaker 4: I was thinking, okay, but this one seems this one

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Speaker 4: seems right. You know, the Red Sox seemed like what

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Speaker 4: get and how would they decipher who they need?

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Speaker 3: You know they need other.

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Speaker 4: Things, but you know, the solidify a guy like Wilson

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Speaker 4: Contreras who's been playing for a while, a veteran player,

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Speaker 4: a guy switched positions. The first base not the biggest target,

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Speaker 4: but he's played well there. So I know Cratzy can

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Speaker 4: attest to this. If you're a catcher, you can most

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Speaker 3: I like this move. They got rid of a couple guys, Okay,

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Speaker 3: so be it. But to get a guy that.

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Speaker 5: God I caught. There's no chance I'm going to play

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Speaker 5: any other position. Besides you said any for any other

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Speaker 5: infield position. That's why we get all of our ground

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Speaker 5: I think it really worked for Wilson is because he

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Speaker 5: So it's a great fit. Like and it's another move

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Speaker 5: by Breslo that says and it's not just Breslo, but

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Speaker 5: we're talking about the Red Sox right now, that says, yes,

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Speaker 5: the amount of money per year is higher. You probably

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Speaker 5: So I think that's the part that Craig Reslo is

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Speaker 5: Him's like I build up this entire minor league system.

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna take it all back from the Red

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Speaker 5: if the Red Sox don't get Bregman, could be a

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Speaker 5: Nolan Aernado trade could be revisited. So Hime's just like,

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Speaker 5: I build all these guys, I'm pillaging this entire minor

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Speaker 1: That's good. That's a good way to look at it.

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Speaker 1: It's true. I mean Saint Louis is in a rebuild

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Speaker 2: We didn't know if it was going to be happening.

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Speaker 2: Not this offseason, but a year ago. Remember Krat's a

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Speaker 2: he wasn't giving them permission and he had a no

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Speaker 1: Well, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Now they're actually making their moves, and I think this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you see these moves going on, like

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Speaker 3: Does he want to be part of rebuild? I would

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Speaker 4: I would say there's there's opportunities now for him to

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Speaker 5: Something I always was impressed with he's even as a

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: He's never going to be like this elite level hitter.

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Speaker 5: He's never going to be a guy who wins a

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Speaker 5: If he is the focal point, I'm a little I'm

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Speaker 5: how it's constructed. But adding this right hand to Batt

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one twenty three ops plus one hundred

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Speaker 2: which we have nowadays Todd Father, It doesn't matter if

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Speaker 2: some of those numbers look good and tell you okay,

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Speaker 2: he should still age nicely into his mid thirties for

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Speaker 2: the next couple seasons. I think this is huge for Boston.

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Speaker 2: Wilson Contreres definitely can piss people off off on the field.

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Speaker 2: He makes for good entertainment for us sometimes right, he

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Speaker 1: I don't care. Can he hit? Can he play first base? Cool?

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Speaker 1: Sign me up? And is he playing every day? Yes?

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Speaker 2: And so for Boston Cassis maybe gets traded. If not,

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Speaker 2: he can be part time first base and DH, you

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Speaker 2: can't wait for a guy. It's been a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been healthy.

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Speaker 2: And if I'm Boston in my winning windows, now sign

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I like it. Opportunity came. They found a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bob Nightingale tweeted over the weekend. The Red

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've the Cardinals on the other end of this,

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Speaker 1: First, you look.

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Speaker 2: They're going to try to trade him, but I don't

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Speaker 3: Your money, it's yours.

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Speaker 4: what a lot of people thought he was gonna make Yeah,

437
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 4: you know what, go ahead, prove yourself. Man, go out there.

438
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Speaker 4: He looks happy, he's excited. The guy's got some absolute

439
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 4: tremendous pop uh crats. He's talked about it before. This

440
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 4: guy can hit one to the moon and back. People

441
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Speaker 4: worry about the swinging mess. I mean, everybody's worried about

442
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 4: the swing and miss. Everybody swings and missus, you know

443
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Speaker 4: at the end of the day. So let's see how

444
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Speaker 4: his defense is. Let's see if he comes to America

445
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 4: here and just absolutely hitting nukes like he always does.

446
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 4: I'm excited to see this guy play. Good pickup by

447
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Speaker 4: the White Sox.

448
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 5: I mean, everybody's worried about swinging miss and yet nobody's

449
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,719
Speaker 5: doing anything about it like this is this is a

450
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 5: prime I'm not saying he should have gotten one hundred

451
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 5: plus million dollars, but this is a prime case of

452
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Speaker 5: the industry being okay with demeaning the things that the

453
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Speaker 5: industry's be okay with in general. They're okay with guys

454
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Speaker 5: coming up that strike out a ton. They're not sitting

455
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Speaker 5: there going man. They put together the Rangers, they put

456
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Speaker 5: together good at bats. No they struck out. They swung

457
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Speaker 5: a miss way too much. That's why they weren't good,

458
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 5: and so it was a nice narrative for them to

459
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Speaker 5: kind of squash a little bit of this guy's value.

460
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Speaker 5: So I love that he only got a two year deal.

461
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 5: I love that the two year deal is a nice

462
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 5: yearly amount because I went back and I looked at

463
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Speaker 5: Seya Suzuki's contract, and I've played against both of these guys,

464
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Speaker 5: and I was so impressed with Saya. Say is that

465
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Speaker 5: bats over in Japan when we played against them were

466
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Speaker 5: very impressive. He got fifteen a year. He got fifteen

467
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Speaker 5: a year that gave him. I'm sorry, no, I did

468
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 5: my math wrong. He got seventeen a year, and this

469
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 5: is exactly what Morikami Murakami gets. So I love the

470
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Speaker 5: annual value here. And until somebody comes over directly from

471
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Speaker 5: Japan as a hitter and is an immediate success, I

472
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Speaker 5: have a hard time seeing that one hundred million dollar

473
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Speaker 5: threshold getting broken right out of the gate. Seya Suzuki

474
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Speaker 5: was very, very disciplined coming over. He was a walk

475
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Speaker 5: one walk to one strikeout kind of guy. He had power,

476
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Speaker 5: not the elite power that you've seen and it took

477
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Speaker 5: Saya a little bit to make that adjustment. I thought

478
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Speaker 5: he should have been an All Star last year. I

479
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 5: know he really created after the All Star break, but

480
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 5: he's developed into a very, very good big league hitter

481
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 5: and it's taken a little bit of time. So maybe

482
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 5: Morikami sees that and says, I have more power than

483
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Speaker 5: this guy. And let's just say his strikeout rates stays

484
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 5: the same. The biggest thing is going to be for

485
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 5: the White Sox is how does he fit into this

486
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 5: lineup to give them production and give them slug that

487
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 5: they have that they've been missing, because if he's just

488
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 5: he actually had better numbers against lefties, because if he

489
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Speaker 5: can't hit a fastball, maybe a leftiest slower fastball is

490
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Speaker 5: easier for him. I'm not sure, but it will definitely

491
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Speaker 5: be interesting. But it'll be a nice environment for him

492
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Speaker 5: to not feel the pressure of the entire world on

493
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Speaker 5: his shoulders to try to do well. But he's also

494
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 5: still in a big city. Don't forget Chicago, the White Sox.

495
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 5: It's still a big city.

496
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Speaker 2: And he's been just on a tear out in Japan

497
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Speaker 2: up until this past season.

498
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Speaker 1: I mean, the numbers were still good.

499
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Speaker 2: While he was playing, but he actually missed a good

500
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Speaker 2: chunk of the year hurt.

501
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Speaker 1: He's young. It's not something chronic.

502
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Speaker 2: But I mean, everything we're talking about is just another

503
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: thing that a team gets concerned about and that could

504
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Speaker 2: be used in contract negotiations. He played fifty six games

505
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: this past season elbow surgery, oblique injury, set back, miss.

506
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: A lot of time.

507
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Speaker 5: It's also had. He also had a thousand ops. He

508
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 5: also had a better.

509
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Speaker 2: Fifty games than a COVID amount of season. Hey, I'm

510
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: not he's been.

511
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Speaker 1: Great for years before that, but.

512
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Speaker 5: All he could play. Yeah, hit better against lefties and

513
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 5: right He's like, there's so many times that I can like,

514
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 5: you can say, oh, you know, he doesn't hit the

515
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Speaker 5: he doesn't hit ninety three plus well enough to be

516
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Speaker 5: to do well in the big leagues. Okay, well, then

517
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Speaker 5: you don't want him, Like you can create so many

518
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Speaker 5: narratives to say, why you don't want to sign Todd Frazier,

519
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Speaker 5: Why you don't want to sign Munataka much munich Mi're comedy,

520
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 5: But that's like, to me, then you just don't want them.

521
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 5: So good for the White Sox, a team that nobody's

522
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 5: really linked to in the sense of like, oh, you know,

523
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 5: they're gonna get Frambervodez, they're gonna get Good for them

524
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Speaker 5: for saying I get what his shortcomings are. Everybody's got shortcomings.

525
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 5: Everybody has. Trey Turner won the batting title, they're like, oh,

526
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 5: you didn't hit for enough power. You know, there's so

527
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 5: many there's so many things that you can point to

528
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 5: to squash salaries. Good for the White Sox for getting

529
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Speaker 5: this one done.

530
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Speaker 1: Also, he's twenty five, his baby.

531
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Speaker 2: How much development happens now, that's part of it. The

532
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: point that I like, right, I'm just providing both sides

533
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: of context here, Kratz. I'm not necessarily going against you.

534
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: I honestly have a hard time figuring out what he's

535
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Speaker 2: going to look like. I know he's gonna hit dingers,

536
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: and he's gonna hit dingers on some mistake pitches. We'll

537
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Speaker 2: see how the league figures out holes and how he adjusts,

538
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: just like most young hitters have to do. But Ken

539
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: Rosenthal pointed out in an article maybe two weeks ago

540
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Speaker 2: that the twenty five percent strikeout rate is actually lower

541
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Speaker 2: than show Heyo Tani's twenty seven percent strikeout mark, but

542
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: he was younger Otani. It was ages eight into twenty

543
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: two seasons and NPB, but and Sey Asuzuki was at

544
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 2: sixteen percent in MPB before he signed with the Cups.

545
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Speaker 2: The point is, it's not like this guy is such an.

546
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: Outlier with strikeouts. Right.

547
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: It's nice to see a guy like Akamoto who's gonna

548
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: come over here and sign Todd Father with really nice

549
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 2: contact numbers. But it's not like this guy can't overcome

550
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: swing and miss, even if it's a part of his game.

551
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Speaker 1: It's not like he's not going to be a successful player.

552
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: He might be a high strikeout guy, he might be

553
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: a twenty five percent plus thirty percent.

554
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: Even strikeout guy in the big leagues.

555
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: But if it's fifty Dingers, I think many teams would

556
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: take that. It's just I think the problem is it's

557
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: really hard to gauge. Like the upside is Kyle Schwarber

558
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 2: and the downside is Joey Kingman, Joey Gallo, stuff like that.

559
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's difficult to see until we see him get

560
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: on the field and get to custom to USA Baseball man,

561
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Speaker 4: it's all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, I like it.

563
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Speaker 2: For the White Sox, Kratz, we were picking up the

564
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: White Sox, and I mean we still will because they're

565
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: operating with a pretty small budget, but this is seventeen

566
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Speaker 2: million bucks a year, and the White Sox second half

567
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 2: offense was good, so that's good. We'll see if they

568
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 2: can carry that is Coulson Montgomery gonna bring. Coulson Montgomery

569
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: has some swing and missing his game, but he might

570
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: hit thirty five forty homers.

571
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Speaker 5: Two He showed his power that really didn't show up

572
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 5: a ton in the minor leagues, definitely translated to the

573
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Speaker 5: big league. So what they're doing up there is good.

574
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 5: And for me, Murkami, if he's able to not get

575
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 5: away from his chase rate, because he doesn't chase very much,

576
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 5: it's his in zone contact. It's balls that are in

577
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 5: the strike zone making contact with it make it sounds,

578
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 5: so it sounds very elementary and remedial to hey, well, yeah,

579
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 5: you just got to hit the balls. He has to

580
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 5: be ready for the pitch that's middle, middle, and if

581
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 5: that means he does chase a little bit more, to me,

582
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 5: that's how his power is going to play in the

583
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 5: big leagues. Because Todd will let you know if some

584
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 5: dude doesn't hit for much power or doesn't you know,

585
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 5: doesn't drive the ball on all pitches. You're just going

586
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 5: to keep pounding that pitch to the guy. You're gonna

587
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 5: nibble the zone with everything else, and then you're just

588
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 5: going to keep attacking him the other way. And to me,

589
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 5: he's got to catch a few balls out front. The

590
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 5: party's out front, get the ball in the middle of

591
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 5: the zone and let that power go to work.

592
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 3: Boom.

593
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were bottom five and runs the White Sox.

594
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: They were bottom five and slugging percentage todd five that

595
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: you played there, that's not a pitcher's park, So it's time.

596
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: It's time to get the offense cranking. Do you know

597
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: who their home run leader was this past season? I

598
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys mentioned in the pregame meeting,

599
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: but it's, by are the toughest trivia question if you're

600
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: asking for each team's home run leader for the year,

601
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: This one, to me is the toughest answer out of

602
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: the thirty teams.

603
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 5: It wasn't Coulson. Did he get to Coulson Getton? No, not,

604
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 5: no time.

605
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: You'll never I mean, it's it's a guy where you're

606
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: gonna be like, I completely forgot about him as even

607
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: a factor that did anything, And obviously you're not watching

608
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: a lot of White Sox games compared to everything else.

609
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: Colson Montgomery, by the way, finished with twenty one. He

610
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: was one shy of the twenty two home runs hit

611
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Speaker 2: by Lane Michael Taylor Lane in Sosa.

612
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Speaker 1: Twenty two home runs. Yeah, that wasn't happening.

613
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: But now you've got Colson Montgomery, Kyle Teel, Edgar Carrow,

614
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: Miguel Vargas more Kami's in there, chase my draft Braidon

615
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: Montgomery from the Crochet White Sox Red Sox trade last

616
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: year coming soon. You're starting to build a little bit

617
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: of a core that has a chance to keep you

618
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: in some games. At corner time, let's talk about the

619
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Speaker 2: state of the Yankees this offseason. In a team that

620
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: scored a ton of runs, made the playoffs, has a

621
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: lot of promising pitching coming up this season, but fans

622
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: expect more. They want action, and they've been pretty quiet

623
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: so far on that front. Fans just saw Yankees sign

624
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: and then they see Paul Blackburn, and it's nothing against

625
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: Paul Todd father, but it's not the big fish that

626
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: fans are looking for. One year deal, two million bucks,

627
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: right they've signed to med Rosario Ryan Yarborough. Now here's

628
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: Blackburn for some pitching depth, who's dealt with a fair

629
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: share of injuries, but maybe could be either a swingman

630
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: or a back end depth guy.

631
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Speaker 1: So there's that.

632
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: But I do want to go a bigger picture here.

633
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: Where do you think fans are at right now with

634
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: this team and what they're expecting. We just spoke to

635
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: Robert Murray, who still linked Cody Bellinger to the team,

636
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: and they're probably battling over what that price will look like.

637
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: But you know how it is, even if the team

638
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: had no holes, they've got to make a splash. It's

639
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: just the way that the fan base demands things. And

640
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: in fairness to the fan base, they have one championship

641
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: since two thousand and nine, and it was not a

642
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: perfect run.

643
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: In the playoffs. Just now, they got smacked around by

644
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays.

645
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that what have you done for me lately?

646
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 4: Mentality, which we're you know, born and raised over here

647
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 4: to you know, pretty much abide by. I think the

648
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 4: fans are it's anticipation. I think the word I was used.

649
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 4: They're you know, a little on edge, a little excitement,

650
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 4: a little hey, what what's Cashman going to do? Yeah,

651
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Speaker 4: this is it's it's it's a it's a pick up.

652
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Speaker 4: Paul Blackburn is not the same guy used to be,

653
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Speaker 4: but finding a way to get a guy in there

654
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Speaker 4: to you know, help out with the team. Yeah, I

655
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: think it's that. Wait and see. I think there's plenty

656
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 4: of time still left. H you got all of January

657
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 4: coming up, and I think, honestly, they are going to.

658
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: Make a move to get a big name.

659
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 4: It's just nobody's really taken down those bigger names besides

660
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 4: like a Pete Alonzo like hitting hitting wise, you know,

661
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: it's just holidays come around, everything gets slow and then

662
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 4: to pick back up after the new year. In my opinion,

663
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Speaker 4: But yes, I think they have some opportunities to get

664
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Speaker 4: some guys, and I think they will. They're gonna put

665
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 4: in a good effort to get some you know, an

666
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 4: outfielder of course, and go from there because they need

667
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 4: a couple of pictures. You know, there's two guys Garrett

668
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 4: Cole Carlos Ordan that aren't gonna be ready in the

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Speaker 4: beginning of the year.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see how that transpires.

671
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: Hitting that futures market hard bet MGM futures. Aaron Judge

672
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: home run total minus one oh five gets you fifty

673
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: one homers or more. If you think he's going under

674
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: fifty one homers, it'll cost you a buck.

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00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: Twenty to win a hundo. Todd Father, where are you

676
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: going over? Over and over and over.

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00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be in the fifties for

678
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 4: a long time. Still, I think he's gonna be fifty

679
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: four fifty five range.

680
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: So I will take that over all day, every day.

681
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: Same with you, Kratz.

682
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: Man.

683
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 4: You see he got hurt and you still got over

684
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 4: fifty do the guy's an animal, though.

685
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 5: I'm not touching it. I'm not touching it just because

686
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 5: I saw other home run I know we're not doing

687
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 5: other home run people right now. But and the guy

688
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 5: we just had on today scared Peta Petez at thirty

689
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 5: seven and a half, and I love that number better

690
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 5: if I'm only getting if I'm only getting minus one ten,

691
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 5: I'm taking the over with Pete. I'm not taking it

692
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 5: with Judge just because right now, I don't think that

693
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 5: number is going to change right now. Who's protecting him?

694
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 5: And he has done a great job of being able

695
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 5: to become a complete hitter. I'm afraid if they don't

696
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 5: have somebody protecting him, that he's not able to get

697
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 5: to that fifty mark. It's such a great number. It's

698
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 5: such a great number. I think he's a fifty guy.

699
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 5: But can I say I'm taking the over on that. No,

700
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 5: Pete's going into a lineup right now that there is

701
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 5: some protection, or he's protecting other people, whichever way you

702
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 5: want to look at it. And I think his number

703
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 5: is low enough that I'm taking that.

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00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a low number in my mind.

705
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: I mean, Pete's very durable, and I'm guessing that they

706
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 2: also might still be looking at the ballpark, I guess.

707
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not Mount Waltimore anymore, it's not what

708
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: it used to be. But it's kind of in between

709
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: that he's going to crush there also, I mean, Todd Father,

710
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: you know this. It's tough to hit dingers in Queens.

711
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: Not as tough as it used to be, right, but

712
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: it's still tough to hit dingers in that park compared

713
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: to many others. I think that's still a at least

714
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: top ten pitchers park, if not better. My guess would

715
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: be it's like in the seven or eight range. I'd

716
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: have to look and I don't go completely off stackast

717
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: factors either, but it use it as a tool. I

718
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: would say it's probably in the top ten range right

719
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: for pictures.

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00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I don't know.

721
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: I mean Baltimore was like that a few years ago

722
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 2: and then they moved the walls again.

723
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: I just think, man, new team.

724
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 2: You know what I always think about, actually, Todd Father

725
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: the home run projections for Juan Soto when he was

726
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: entering that free agent year with the Yankees, and the

727
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: number was so freaking low. It was frustratingly low, and

728
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: you're getting all these wild explanations about how his pop's

729
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: gonna play in the.

730
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: It was trash.

731
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: He destroyed the number.

732
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 5: I think it was twenty nine and a half. I'm

733
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 5: positive twenty nine and a half. And they were like

734
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 5: and it was because they said, oh, well, he hits

735
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 5: a lot of balls to left center and that's the

736
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 5: biggest part of Yankee Stadium.

737
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, it's just.

738
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 5: Like we talked about with Like I talked about Wilson

739
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 5: Contreras earlier. There's some guys who are like, I'll hit

740
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 5: it over there, or I'll hit it there. There's some

741
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 5: guys that can do that, and Juan Soto was definitely

742
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 5: one of those. And I think Pete is the only

743
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 5: part that he can't hit it out of is Yosemite.

744
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 5: So I don't you know, wall back, wall forward, whatever.

745
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 5: I think people will be surprised in Camden Yards, and

746
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 5: Pete might even be surprised once he gets there. How

747
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 5: many balls he's gonna be able to flick over right

748
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 5: field because right field can give you a lot. And

749
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 5: when Pete's not going well, he tries to go to

750
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 5: the opposite field, he tries to take the ball the

751
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 5: other way, and then when he's hot, he's taking it everywhere.

752
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Hey, there's no baseball right now. We

753
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: miss it.

754
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: Although there's a lot of action going on, there is

755
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: pro football action. Bet MGM players, you can get an

756
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: early holiday treat. It's a Pro Football same game parlay

757
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: boost token, and you can use that token by stacking

758
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: up a same game parlay wager made from bets on

759
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: any pro football game, dropping into your bet slip and

760
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: give that token a merry little activation. Gambling problem or

761
00:37:45,400 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: concern call one eight hundred gambler. All right, let's slaps.

762
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: What do you have.

763
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 5: Might be a little just a little like just reminder

764
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 5: that the off season's going. Like teams are picking guys up,

765
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 5: but the Yankees. I think the Yankees do it backwards

766
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 5: from other teams. They get the little pieces to fill

767
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 5: in and then they go get the star. So I

768
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 5: think they're still going to be there. But got to

769
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 5: make sure everyone over in Yankee Land is not going

770
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 5: to Christmas too early.

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00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: Hey, Actually that leads me to my last point here

772
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: during Slap We have our last live show of the

773
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: year coming up tomorrow, which is Tuesday, and then we

774
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: have a lot prepared for you over the days of

775
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: podcast and YouTube clips that you'll enjoy. Give a much

776
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: needed rest to everybody that works every day all year round.

777
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: But we will have Ken Rosenthal on our last show

778
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five. Kevin Pilar is hosting with myself

779
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: and with Kratz. One more I'll give you for now.

780
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: On the guest list for tomorrow is a former Yankee

781
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: who can smash left handed pitching and he's going to

782
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: be back in the big leagues this coming season. The

783
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 2: Chicago Cubs signed Eyler Austin, and we didn't really go

784
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: over the signing at the time, So instead we're just

785
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: bringing the player on to go over his return from

786
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 2: Japan and how he start out there.

787
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: Why are you're throwing your hands up?

788
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 5: I've texted him so many times and he's gonna come on.

789
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 5: And I didn't even know this TJA all the way.

790
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: Oh crap, I messed up. Now he's not coming on

791
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 2: right now. Now he can't make it. Oops?

792
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 5: Is Joe Kelly coming on? Instead?

793
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: We'll bring on the other side of the battle. But

794
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: we'll try and get Tyler in early January. Hey, it's

795
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: coming in hot. As I talk sometimes I make stuff up,

796
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: but tomorrow I try not to.

797
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see you tomorrow.

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00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: Do you