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Speaker 1: Because there's another thing. If remember Obama was told about

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Speaker 1: the Russia interference in the election. We knew that, right,

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Speaker 1: and and the obaministration chose not to make it a

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Speaker 1: bigger deal. Maybe this was offered up to Obama on

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Speaker 1: a silver platter, so to speak, by the FBI, by

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Speaker 1: the d o J. And had he chosen to he

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Speaker 1: could have made the Russia collusion narrative a much bigger

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Speaker 1: pre election story. But he might have figured out, you

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Speaker 1: know what this is, This could backfire. And I think

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Speaker 1: by the way, I would have you know, because there

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Speaker 1: were some news reports were already coming out about this.

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Speaker 1: There were some efforts in the media to get that

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Speaker 1: story going, but Obama was not. And you had all

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Speaker 1: these officials to write Brennan Formacy I Director and others

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Speaker 1: saying hold on, you know, we should have been more

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Speaker 1: aggressive about Russia collusion. We should have come out sooner

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Speaker 1: on the story, Well, why didn't they when we think

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Speaker 1: that went through together, folks, I think it's much more

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Speaker 1: likely that they had they had come up with Essentially,

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Speaker 1: they didn't take action on conspiracy that they had concocted

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Speaker 1: before the election. What I mean by that is, why

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Speaker 1: do they have, you know, the the leaks about the

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Speaker 1: Trump and Russia and their surveillance and all the things

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Speaker 1: that we started to hear. Maybe it was all being

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Speaker 1: presented by some of these pro Hillary deep staters to Obama,

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Speaker 1: to Loretta Lynch, you know, to Comey, to McCabe, etcetera,

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Speaker 1: and or I'm sorry by them to Obama. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: they just decided it's too risky to try to run

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Speaker 1: with this. I see that as a real possibility here,

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Speaker 1: because they have they have told us that they chose

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Speaker 1: at the highest level not to make Russia a bigger

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Speaker 1: issue in advance of that Russian meddling was not going

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Speaker 1: to be made a bigger issue in advance of the election.

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Speaker 1: Why why do you think that is given all that

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Speaker 1: they given their psychotic fixation on it. Now out, I'm

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Speaker 1: starting to think that maybe they put all this together

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Speaker 1: and that they had that this was all in place

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Speaker 1: to be the ultimate October surprise. And there's other we

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Speaker 1: look at some of the way the news stories when

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Speaker 1: you can see it, but Obama just couldn't quite bring

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Speaker 1: himself to to do it before the allige. You know,

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Speaker 1: look he put the sanctions on rush afterwards, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you see there's all this stuff. I feel like they

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Speaker 1: didn't They built this machine and then they did not

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Speaker 1: fully let it loose the Russia collusion narrative right before

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Speaker 1: the election, because it would have looked a little too convenient,

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Speaker 1: a little too much like a construct. And so that

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Speaker 1: explains some of the sloppiness with all this too, in

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Speaker 1: the way that this comes together. I'm hoping that this

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Speaker 1: that you see what I'm what I'm saying here. I

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Speaker 1: know we're we're getting down deep into the weeds here.

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Speaker 1: So my basic premise is that the FBI guys all

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Speaker 1: the stuff we're seeing now is that they were trying

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Speaker 1: to pull together the fires award on carter page. They

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Speaker 1: were trying to create something that they wanted to make

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Speaker 1: public and the Abdministration could make public, and it was

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Speaker 1: gonna basically be Russia wants to get what Russia wants

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Speaker 1: to elect Trump Trump people are working with the Russians

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Speaker 1: and I've been talking to the Russians about how to

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Speaker 1: elect Trump. They dropped that story in October. It cost

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Speaker 1: Trump the election. Hillary wins and all those people struck

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Speaker 1: McCabe calling me the rest of them, they're all heroes

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Speaker 1: above suspicion. That's how I see it. This is how

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Speaker 1: I see it all coming together. You could. You can

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Speaker 1: call me crazy, but that's what I see. We've got

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Speaker 1: every Linelets let's get into some calls. I'll be back

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Speaker 1: right after this break. All right, let's get into a team.

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Speaker 1: Got lines lit, Let's do it. We have Brian and

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Speaker 1: Woos the Massachusetts in line. Hey Brian, Hey Buck. You

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Speaker 1: know what I was thinking. If the demo Tress packed

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Speaker 1: this memo full of sources and methods in order to

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Speaker 1: force redactions by the GOP and cause a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of confusion, and I make people wonder why they if

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Speaker 1: they're hiding anything, why not just give the Democrats complete

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Speaker 1: control over what they can redact, because I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna expose their own sources and methods. And it

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Speaker 1: completely takes away from from a GOP. You know, as

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Speaker 1: far as you know, I think Brian, that they have

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Speaker 1: to I think that the Republicans and Committee would have

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Speaker 1: to vote in favor of release. So I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's a way that that, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Like it's it's based on the vote. So I don't

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Speaker 1: think that they're They're probably just have to vote yea

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Speaker 1: or nay. They're not otherwise it doesn't go anywhere. So

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Speaker 1: I don't think that would work. But now we're getting

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Speaker 1: pretty down into the processes, and I look, I've never

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Speaker 1: been in Congress, so I don't know exactly how it goes.

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Speaker 1: I thought that the already voted on releasing it, or

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Speaker 1: is that just the Intelligence Council. Yeah, No, that that's

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Speaker 1: the the House Intelligence Committee voted on release. But now

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Speaker 1: it goes is too. It goes through the exact same

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Speaker 1: process that Republican memo did. So now it goes to Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's like a period of a few days or I

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Speaker 1: figure out five days. The White House is looking at it, Uh,

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Speaker 1: the FBI in talent community can also weigh in on it,

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Speaker 1: and then I think it goes back to the House

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Speaker 1: after that, and then there's left final sort of a

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Speaker 1: final release. I think that's how it goes. But again,

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Speaker 1: there's there's games that are being played with the process,

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Speaker 1: and and I would like to see just more information

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Speaker 1: coming out. So I don't think, I don't know, let

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Speaker 1: me look into that, Brian. Maybe your plan would work.

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling though, that the Republicans wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: in a position where they can just wash their hands

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Speaker 1: of it, right. But then again, you get to the

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Speaker 1: whole thing about well, why have any redactions at all?

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Speaker 1: Why not just if everyone agrees that you can't say

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Speaker 1: certain stuff, what's the point of leaving it in with

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Speaker 1: the blacked outlines. Although I didn't even talk about the

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Speaker 1: grass Lee referral about Christopher Steel that was released today,

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of blacked out stuff in that,

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Speaker 1: a lot of redactions, which race some questions for me.

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Speaker 1: So we're working in some some gray areas of blacked

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Speaker 1: out information, Brian. But I do appreciate you calling in Shields. Hi,

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Speaker 1: thanks for thanks for holding Let's get uh. Gretchen in

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Speaker 1: Long Beach, Mississippi. Hey, Gretchen, Hey, how are you. I'm good?

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your call. Good good good? Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: my my thought is along the same long kind of

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Speaker 1: as Brian. Um. I kind of wish, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: if it's safe enough, I would give the Democrats. Here

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Speaker 1: you go, here's your twenty four hours. Um, this is

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Speaker 1: your paper, your document. You you wanna, I'm gonna release

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Speaker 1: it in twenty four hours because that's what you want.

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Speaker 1: You've requested it. Just to shift has made it quite clear.

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Speaker 1: Here you go back, make your whatever you want to

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Speaker 1: do with it, put it in their court. And if

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have to go back to Congress, which it

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Speaker 1: probably is, to go to committee, the vote will go

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Speaker 1: down party lines like I did before. Protect the people

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Speaker 1: that need to be protect. Could I mean, they already

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Speaker 1: know who that is, but let it out, it's already

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Speaker 1: got to come out. And then it's there. It's there,

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Speaker 1: It's it's their thing. They own it. And my own

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Speaker 1: question was, since they wrote this document and they want

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Speaker 1: to reveal these sources and methods it's stuff, isn't that

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Speaker 1: revealing Since they wrote it, they own it. Do they

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Speaker 1: not only also own perhaps the release of classified information

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Speaker 1: if they do not redact it themselves, which would be illegal.

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering how that, you know, I know, we're kind

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Speaker 1: of getting into the long world of you know, down

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Speaker 1: in the weeds. But I'm wondering, then if if they've

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Speaker 1: written it, it's their document, then should they also own

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Speaker 1: any of the repercussions legally? Well, but if they go

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Speaker 1: through the process, then the information is effectively declassified. Right.

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Speaker 1: So so nothing that can come out of this process

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Speaker 1: would be legally actionable as classified information because if Congress

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Speaker 1: approves the release, it is it is, it is declass sified, right,

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Speaker 1: So it doesn't make Yeah, it doesn't maintain its classified

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Speaker 1: status after the Congress does this. So that's what's really

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Speaker 1: what's really interesting is in classification, and this is i think, uh,

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Speaker 1: just a worthwhile addition to this conversation. Corretch and classification

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Speaker 1: is always a little bit of a little bit of

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Speaker 1: an art, not a science. Uh. And the truth is

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Speaker 1: what is and is not sensitive government information? The government

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Speaker 1: just always says, well, yeah, it's classified. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: there's any hint of it's classified, they say, yes, it's classified.

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Speaker 1: They always air on the side of that to the

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Speaker 1: point where it's actually silly. I mean they they will

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Speaker 1: classify you know what I had for lunch yesterday. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's insane. But the uh, you know, the other

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Speaker 1: side of this is that you have to always have

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Speaker 1: a balancing of our right to know and Congress is

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Speaker 1: obligations for oversight to the executive branch's ability to conduct

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Speaker 1: some of its some of what it does in secret,

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Speaker 1: particularly on kind of intelligence investigations, any intelligence related matter,

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Speaker 1: and all the rest of it. So it's a very complicated.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Gretchen, Okay, Well, I don't know how you know,

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Speaker 1: I have a I have a son who's deployed, so

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Speaker 1: we can't talk about We can talk about the weather,

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Speaker 1: you know, but there's a lot that we don't talk about,

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Speaker 1: like I have his dog. Your dog is doing great,

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Speaker 1: you know, and superficial really kind of thing, and I

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Speaker 1: don't ask. And I mean there's military parents and wives

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Speaker 1: and stuff. We all know these things, you know, so

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Speaker 1: we all kind of know. So Hillary apparently doesn't know,

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Speaker 1: by the way, but you know, well apparently not. But

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Speaker 1: you know, you have to think about even the smallest

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Speaker 1: little thing, um can make a big difference, you just do.

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Speaker 1: You never really know, so you know, we kind of understand.

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Speaker 1: And maybe some of his parents were wives. It's all

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Speaker 1: maybe a little overboard and being whatever. It's kind of awkward.

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Speaker 1: It's a little hard, but it's just part of the deal.

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Speaker 1: So I don't understand, uh, you know, well that the

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Speaker 1: Hillary emails and all that kind of stuff. It's it's just, um,

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Speaker 1: I think it shows an arrogance of power. Oh absolutely

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Speaker 1: absolutely no, I mean and and also a lack of

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Speaker 1: accountability and at a double standard in the justice is

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Speaker 1: um gretch and tell your tell your son that we

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Speaker 1: here in the freedom of sending our regards and our

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Speaker 1: thanks for his service. All right, thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for calling in team. We're going to roll into this

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Speaker 1: break the top of the hour coming up. Second hour

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Speaker 1: of the Buck's Action Show is upon us. Uh. We

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Speaker 1: have a lot to discuss here, including the Pelosi. Was

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Speaker 1: it seven or eight hours that she was up there? Uh,

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Speaker 1: yammering on, We'll get into that and more. Stay with me.

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Speaker 1: He's back with you now, because when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. If a

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Speaker 1: Dream Act were brought to the floor, it would pass

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Speaker 1: immediately with strong bipartisan support. And I commend my Republican

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Speaker 1: colleagues for their courage and speaking out on this. Yet

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Speaker 1: our dreamers hanging limbo with a cruel cloud of fear

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Speaker 1: and uncertainty above them. The Republican moral cowardice must end

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Speaker 1: members of Congress or trustees of the people and of

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Speaker 1: our nation. Why are we here if not to protect

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Speaker 1: the patriotic young people who are determined to contribute and

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Speaker 1: to strength in America. So welcome back to the buck section.

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Speaker 1: To everybody. Hour two. That was your favorite. Nancy Pelosi,

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Speaker 1: she gaven eight our speech today on the House floor.

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Speaker 1: She went on for eight hours about dreamers. Now, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot that I want to see here. Let me

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Speaker 1: start with this. Democrats have a weird obsession with this issue.

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Speaker 1: You'll notice this. There's a lot of other stuff going

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Speaker 1: on in the country, a lot of other things that

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Speaker 1: matter to Americans, and yet this has become the primary

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Speaker 1: policy concerned, primary policy fight for the Democrat Party. They

644
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Speaker 1: are using their powers in elected office to advocate for

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Speaker 1: illegal aliens, which is what dreamers are. It's not a

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Speaker 1: that that's not to impugne each and every one of

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Speaker 1: them as individuals. It's just a factual statement about their

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Speaker 1: legal or in this case illegal status. This is issue

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Speaker 1: number one for Democrats. I wonder why. And yet at

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Speaker 1: the same time, you had a very interesting phenomenon today

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Speaker 1: one that I think did not get nearly enough attention.

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Speaker 1: You had Nancy Pelosi to speak for hate. Hey hours

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Speaker 1: and hey have had dreamers. I mean Nancy progressive private

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Speaker 1: Jet Pelosi. She's out there talking about dreamers and how

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Speaker 1: much she wants to help, you know, these patriots. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, if we're gonna start saying thing think

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Speaker 1: they're patriotic, that I also want to look at okay, um,

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Speaker 1: what are really the numbers on dreamers in terms of

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Speaker 1: high school graduation, employment rate, criminal background. Let's really get

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Speaker 1: into it. Then don't tell me that that's mean and nasty.

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Speaker 1: If we're gonna start being told, oh, well, they're all great,

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Speaker 1: so therefore we should change the law for them, which

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Speaker 1: what Pelosi is saying. But what you saw happen today

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Speaker 1: was was very instructive. Not Pelosi blathering on for eight

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Speaker 1: hours of that jammers. Um. But you had Chuck Schumer

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Speaker 1: being very pleased about the budget deal. Now that they

667
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Speaker 1: raised the debt ceiling, right, they got a budget deal.

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Speaker 1: Allows so oh they're gonna on the big fight the shutdown. Nope,

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Speaker 1: they didn't. The reason they didn't have the fight is

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Speaker 1: because the last one they lost, and there they think

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Speaker 1: they can use this brinksmanship over the debt ceiling, the

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Speaker 1: federal government's debt ceiling, as a way of getting the

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Speaker 1: public to support their is and more Republicans will look bad.

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Speaker 1: The American people will start to say, Yeah, Democrats, dreamers,

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Speaker 1: that's what we're all really focused on. So they got

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Speaker 1: a budget deal, It just happened yesterday, funding the government

677
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Speaker 1: until March. Right, that's what they've decided to do. And

678
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Speaker 1: yet Chuck Schumer is saying this is a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi is giving an eight hour speech about dreamers,

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Speaker 1: which is no one really cares about. But it's a

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Speaker 1: lot of grand standing. Right, So what's really happening here.

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Speaker 1: Why is the Senate minority leader saying, yeah, let's move

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Speaker 1: on from this and let's let's just get a budget

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Speaker 1: deal done, when the House minority leaders like, yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is terrible, we need to talk about it for eight hours. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's a hint. The Morning Consult a polling company that's

687
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Speaker 1: been growing very rapidly in recent years, doing very well

688
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Speaker 1: as a poll with the following the GOP. This is

689
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Speaker 1: just out today. GOP has a thirteen point edge over

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Speaker 1: Democrats on National Party a nine point edge over Democrats

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Speaker 1: on the economy, a six point edge over Democrats on jobs,

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Speaker 1: and a six point edge over Democrats on immigration. But

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Speaker 1: wait a second, I thought the American people think that

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Speaker 1: that the dreamers are just the heart and soul of

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Speaker 1: America because they're just dreaming about a better future. That's

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Speaker 1: what the media would lead us to believe. They will

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Speaker 1: tell us that the American people are on the side

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Speaker 1: of the Democrats on this issue, and yet no, No.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Trump highlighting the costs of illegal immigration, highlighting

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Speaker 1: the criminality that is a very serious consideration. Whenever we

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Speaker 1: talk about illegal immigration gangs like ms ther Team, which

702
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Speaker 1: we spent quite a bit of time talking about yesterday.

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Speaker 1: He's showing that there's another, there's a whole another side

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Speaker 1: to this discussion. In fact, there are many sides of

705
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Speaker 1: this just gushion, and the American people are not in

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Speaker 1: favor of an amnesty. They are just not. Pelosi can

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Speaker 1: tell us all day that the House will vote for it,

708
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Speaker 1: and this is the right thing to do and everything else,

709
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Speaker 1: but the American people do not want an amnesty and

710
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Speaker 1: the Democrats do not want to deal. That's why Chuck

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Speaker 1: Schumer is happy to move along see Pelosi, she knows

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Speaker 1: that she can get away with saying whatever she wants

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Speaker 1: on dreamers, and she can just grandstand on it. That's

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Speaker 1: what she's doing, eight hours of grandstanding today. But Schumer

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Speaker 1: in the Senate, he's gonna have to deal with a

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Speaker 1: more complicated set of circumstances on the possibility of an

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Speaker 1: amnesty and on dreamers and everything else going on here

718
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Speaker 1: because Trump has made quite an offer to them as

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Speaker 1: an as an opening bid one point eight million. If

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Speaker 1: dreamers are so important to the Democrat party, why are

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Speaker 1: they not willing to meet the Trump administration halfway on

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Speaker 1: border security, on e Verify, on a wall and all

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Speaker 1: these other issues. If Dreamers are an issue of such

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Speaker 1: great importance to Democrats that Pelosi needs to stand up

725
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Speaker 1: and talk about them for eight hours, there's no way

726
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Speaker 1: that the Democrats could walk away from a very serious

727
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Speaker 1: and I would offer generous first opening bid from the

728
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Speaker 1: from the Trump side on this. So they'd rather just

729
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Speaker 1: move on because they don't want to. They don't want

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Speaker 1: to actually get into this fight. They just want to

731
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Speaker 1: keep talking about it. They want to keep talking about

732
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Speaker 1: it in the hopes that they can use this as

733
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Speaker 1: an issue in the midterms, and that at some point

734
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Speaker 1: they'll just be able to fundraise off this, and or

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Speaker 1: that they will be able to fundraise off this and

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Speaker 1: just continue on pretending that they have the moral not

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Speaker 1: just the moral high ground, which they will never stop pretending.

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Speaker 1: But also the American people are with them on this,

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00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: They just frankly are not. But there's another component here,

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Speaker 1: one that is not getting nearly attention. And this one

741
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: is a bit of a bummer everyone, Right, Pelosi rambling

742
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: on for eight hours semi coherently, uh in a way

743
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Speaker 1: that it's just meant to draw attention to her and

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Speaker 1: how great she is, who cares. But there's also a

745
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: problem here about what's going on with the budget and

746
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Speaker 1: spending in this country. And I know that it's not

747
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Speaker 1: it's not hip, it's not cool these days to discuss

748
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Speaker 1: the debt, to discuss the deficit. But I'm starting to

749
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: get a little worried. One of the issues that those

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Speaker 1: who actually know about the markets, and I'm not pretending

751
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: to be one of them, but I do read people

752
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: who know about the markets, and I know people who

753
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: are very knowledgeable about macro trends in the economy, and

754
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: I asked them questions as one does, and one wants

755
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: to learn that the possibility of inflation is looming quite

756
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Speaker 1: large and much of what's going on in the economy

757
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: right now because that that that is one issue um

758
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Speaker 1: and also raising interest rates right, raising interest rates, which

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Speaker 1: would mean that are servicing of the debt, and this

760
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: goes back to our Tea party day, folks, are servicing

761
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Speaker 1: of the debt becomes a much bigger concern, a much

762
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Speaker 1: bigger part of the outlay that we currently have a

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Speaker 1: federal spending. Now, this is not going to be the

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Speaker 1: most you know, knock your socks off exciting, sexy topic

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Speaker 1: we ever discussed on the show, but I do after

766
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Speaker 1: the break, I do want to talk to you a

767
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: little bit about what's going on with spending right now,

768
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: because we're not worried about spending on a parade, whether

769
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: you like parades or not, but there's other stuff out

770
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: there that should get some attention here and we will

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Speaker 1: get into it, and I would love to hear your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on list. What do you think about just extending

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Speaker 1: the extending the debt ceiling here funding the government for

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Speaker 1: another whatever it is, six weeks or so, and why

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Speaker 1: Pelosi and Schumer have this dissonance in their messaging. Something's

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00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: going on, folks, what is that funky smell? Something? Something

777
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Speaker 1: smells funky here. We should figure out what it is,

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Speaker 1: um and we will be right back. Yeah. If you

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Speaker 1: believe that we are all God's creation, as I do,

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Speaker 1: as people of faith do, and I do believe faith

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Speaker 1: as a gift that everyone doesn't have. So you may

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Speaker 1: not have that same perspective. Getting a little lecture on

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Speaker 1: faith from Catholic politician not Nancy Pelosi, who is an

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Speaker 1: abortion extremist who believes an abortion for nine months of

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Speaker 1: her pregnancy. That's interesting, isn't it. Anyway? Uh, Pelosi gave

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Speaker 1: her speech today on immigration. We're starting to see that

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00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: Democrats are un serious on the issue. They really just

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Speaker 1: want to use it for fundraising and as a as

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Speaker 1: a cudgel, as a weapon against Republicans, to say that

790
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: they're racist, to say that they're bad people, and to

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00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: just as much as possible, play the race card against Republicans.

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Speaker 1: That's what the immigration issue really boils down to for

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Speaker 1: now for Democrats, in the hopes that eventually they can

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Speaker 1: mobilize that sentiment into victory at the polls and then

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Speaker 1: they'll just have a mass amnesty. And what the country

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Speaker 1: looks like with that mass amnesty. Just in terms of

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Speaker 1: the politics, we become a single party state, folks, it'll

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Speaker 1: be Democrats and Democrat like some of your like buck,

799
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: we already have that. But that's a discussion maybe that

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Speaker 1: we'll hold off on for now. But here's my problem.

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Speaker 1: What's going on with the GOP right now? Folks? That's right.

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00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm not just gonna sit here like everything is isn't it?

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00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: Isn't that the Lego Lego song Everything is awesome? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I can't be the Lego theme song guy for the

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Speaker 1: GOP here in the Freedom hud because while some things

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Speaker 1: are awesome, and Trump has been impressing me with the

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Speaker 1: first year and what he's been doing the first now

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Speaker 1: a couple of months of this year. Um, but Trump

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00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: is in a good job the GOP overall, though, I've

810
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Speaker 1: got some problems with it, Like, for example, Uh, they've

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Speaker 1: bust They've busted through the spending cap by three billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: They've been raising the debt limit time and again. There's

813
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Speaker 1: no cuts that are being made anywhere. Um. They will

814
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Speaker 1: not cut entitlements, they will not deal with Medicare, Medicaitor,

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Speaker 1: social Security, they've actually thought about getting earmarks back, and

816
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Speaker 1: they're spending a lot of money. I mean, I think,

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Speaker 1: are we gonna sp what's it, what's it a trillion

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Speaker 1: dollars on track to spend a trillion dollars in the whole,

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Speaker 1: I mean, not a trill not not total, a trillion

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Speaker 1: dollars more than we take in. So that's a problem, um,

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Speaker 1: And I think what's unfairers That Obama racked up insane

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Speaker 1: debt in his eight years, as we know, but with

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Speaker 1: the artificially low interest rates because of FED policy, the debt,

824
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Speaker 1: the servicing of that debt was not quite the uh

825
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Speaker 1: the punishment that it could have otherwise been for all

826
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Speaker 1: of us. And this is really just racking up debts

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Speaker 1: the future generations will have to pay. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: if interest rates rise, you're gonna have a problem because

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Speaker 1: if you've got whatever it is now, I forget what

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Speaker 1: the percentage of our percentage of our outlays goes towards

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Speaker 1: servicing the debt we already have, which is twenty trillion dollars.

832
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Speaker 1: But as that percentage ticks up, you start spending a

833
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Speaker 1: lot of money just on keeping up with the money

834
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Speaker 1: you've already spent. Right, It's like if you've got a

835
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Speaker 1: credit card and you you've got a ten thousand dollar

836
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Speaker 1: outstanding balance and it goes from all right, well now

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Speaker 1: you're paying Uh we're talking credit cards here, So the

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Speaker 1: a p R is really high, right, I mean, fortunately,

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Speaker 1: servicing the debt is not that I but you know,

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Speaker 1: if you go from a five to a p R

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Speaker 1: and your credit card, that's gonna hurt because now money

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Speaker 1: you're gonna use spending for groceries, he's gonna go to

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Speaker 1: paying down the debt you've already run up on that

844
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Speaker 1: credit card because of the rays in the percentage, the

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Speaker 1: annual percentage, Right, the A p R. Government kind of

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Speaker 1: functions a similar way here. If interest rates rise and

847
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Speaker 1: we have to pay back interest on the debt that

848
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Speaker 1: we've already accrued, it starts to crowd out other government

849
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Speaker 1: spending and now we start to feel it. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, government spending I think it was Milton Friedman right,

851
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: government spending is just just another form of taxation, folks.

852
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Speaker 1: So while we can cut taxes on one side, if

853
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Speaker 1: we don't cut spending and keep going deeper and deeper

854
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: into debt. The interest rates that we will be paying

855
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: on that debt are gonna be rising, and that means

856
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna be paying off even more. And this is

857
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: how this is how things gets scary for the economy

858
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: because here's what I can tell you. Nobody knows when

859
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: this debt go when the debt thing goes bad. No

860
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: one knows when the debt bomb goes off, no one,

861
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: no one, no one knows what I've heard. Everybody who's

862
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: talked about this whose knowledge, but they don't know. They

863
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: can't say a trillion or a thirty trillion all of

864
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: a sudden it all comes crumbling down. But here's what

865
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: the people who watch this ken all you. At some

866
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 1: point it does I don't know when, but the music

867
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: will stop. It will be a very big problem. And

868
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: how that looks for the future of this country is

869
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: something that nobody can really answer. Nobody really knows. So

870
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: I think we have to start being realistic about what

871
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: the GOP is doing here. Look, if the decision is

872
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: we're just gonna party and do what we can and

873
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: hope the future generations figure it out somehow, well that's

874
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: one way to go. But that's kind of what we're

875
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: doing right now without admitting that's what's going on. It's

876
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: not a good thing. I know, I know everything is

877
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: not awesome. I wish I could say it was. But

878
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: that is a concern. I will raise it occasionally here

879
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: on the show. I will not I will not be

880
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: labor the point, hopefully right Carl in Winston Salem, North Carolina. Hey, Hey,

881
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: what's up, buddy. Hey, Now I got a solution for

882
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: all these all the woes that we're talking about. It

883
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: it's called a fair at tax. You get to keep

884
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: all the money you may call your income tax, and

885
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: all the people that live here get to pay um

886
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: uh consumption tax, which means like a quarter for every

887
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: dollar you spend goes to the government. And it's been

888
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: figured out that that will pay all the government bills

889
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: and it will take care of all the doctor problems,

890
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: all the immigration problems. But more people here will have

891
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: more more people consuming and paying our national debt. Off

892
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: is that simple. There's no reason to play politics with

893
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: my income tax money. And and that's all manthey, polics

894
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: who wants to do you can tell her to shut up.

895
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: But you know, if I'm not if I don't have

896
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: a diamond diamond area. I'm not paying any income tax.

897
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: I don't care how many people's here. I mean, I

898
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: get to keep from my whole paycheck. That's my That's

899
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: what makes me happy. Yeah, look, I would love a

900
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: fair at tax. I mean, I think taxes are still

901
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: way too high. It's hard to celebrate that much when

902
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: you just had a little bit of a cut in

903
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: what is already I think, in unfair and confiscatory taxation system.

904
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: But to keep in mind that the entitlement state that

905
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: we currently have, and this is look at the expenditures

906
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: of the federal government really just come down to Medicare, Medicaid,

907
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: and Social Security. That's where the money is. And Social

908
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: Security is a very popular program. People want to keep it.

909
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: That's manageable. Social Security is manageable. It's Medicare and Medicaid

910
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: that are the beasts that can eat up the entirety

911
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: of not entirety, but eat up way too much of

912
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: government outlets and government spending. And it's just not popular

913
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: to tell people that someone's not gonna pay for most

914
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: of their health care when they're old. And it's not

915
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: popular to tell people that they're not going to get

916
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: government sponsored healthcare if they are below a certain income threshold.

917
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: Right that that's just and neither political party wants to

918
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: touch it. And it's an unfortunate circumstance. But I'm with

919
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: you on a fair tax. I think there'll be a

920
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: way better way to go. And you know, there's there's

921
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: a whole other discussion about how the notion of a

922
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: federal income tax that is the same across the whole

923
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: country when cost of living is very different across the

924
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: country is It's just inherently unfair what goes on right now.

925
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: But Carl, thank you for calling in from North Carolina.

926
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Speaker 1: Anthony out on the eastern shore of Maryland. What's up, Anthony, Yes, sir,

927
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Bucks you? Uh, there's issue going

928
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: on with the spending and all that. I was kind

929
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: of watching the news on TV a little bit with

930
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 1: a couple of this agreements with with the UH spending

931
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: and all that, and agree and not agree. Uh. My

932
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: issue is domestic has been put in the last eight

933
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: or ten years um with with the absorbent and spending

934
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 1: over the Obama administration, and then all of a sudden,

935
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: you know, we got President Trump and thenarratives trying to

936
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Speaker 1: help us out, and and um, I think, uh, give

937
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: it a year or so with these tax breaks and all.

938
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Speaker 1: I think, Uh, in my personal opinion, just like the

939
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: d in years, things will start mellowing out. But in

940
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Speaker 1: the meantime, you know, let's get something going. Let's get

941
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: something going. But you think interest rates need to go up.

942
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: I see here, I say, I'm thinking for it's all day.

943
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I'm not not no eight time percent, but

944
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: uh we're we're at out or down like two. Yeah. Look,

945
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean for savers, the situation, there's really been a

946
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: transfer of wealth that's going on away away from savers.

947
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: So that's been and that's a function of government monetary

948
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: policy stretching back now for many years. And that's a problem, right,

949
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: And it's one of the reasons there's so much money

950
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: chasing yields in the stock market. I think it needs

951
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: to be a little bit stronger to get the dollar stronger,

952
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: which which is I've heard President Trump say that. You know, Look,

953
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: I like to have the stronger dollar. Right now it's weak. Um,

954
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: with with everything else going on and everything getting on together,

955
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: I think everything's going to come together and start flying, right,

956
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: I hope. So, my friend Anthony, thanks for calling from Maryland.

957
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: Shield time, my friend, Um, I uh, I gotta talk

958
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: to you about some other stuff comeing out of here.

959
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the military parade that Trump talked about. All

960
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: the media's all freaking out. Trump is a dictator. He

961
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: wants to have a parade that honors our military. Oh no,

962
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: talk about that and more coming up right after the break,

963
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: stay with other shows. Just talk at you in the

964
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: Freedom hud. We have a mission. We fight for the

965
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: truth in a team effort, and buck us back with

966
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: our next play. So before I talk about how democrats,

967
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: some of them, not a lot of them, are acting

968
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: like Trump's suggestion about a military parade is the equivalent

969
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: of when the what is it the the Cubans and

970
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: the Chinese invade in Red Dawn? I always get the

971
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: remake confused, isn't it? Oh no, sorry, the Soviets and

972
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: the Cubans invade in the original Red Dawn, And then

973
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: I think it's the North Koreans and the Chinese and

974
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: the remake of Red Dawn. They're acting though, like it's

975
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: that scary Trump. Am I right? Yeah, I'm right. That's

976
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: that's how I roll But before we get into that,

977
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: I just wanted to take some time here to hand

978
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: out some buckslaps. Oh yeah, one more, give me one more,

979
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: give me a buck slab. There we go. I don't

980
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: know why. I don't know why we make a karate

981
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: noise with a buck slap, but it adds a little

982
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: bit of the you know, and we really know what's

983
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: going on. So alright, first up for the bucks lap,

984
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: We've got John Heilman, the guy over at MSNBC. Who

985
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: are I always confused with the other guy who lost

986
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: his job because he was like a harassing predator predator type.

987
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: But John Heilman said the following about the White House

988
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: Chief of Staff Chief staff walked into the way House

989
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: briefing room few months ago and attacked the African American

990
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: rish woman. I can tell you that there are all

991
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: a lot of African Americans who who detected racial animals

992
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: in the way in which that played out. And so

993
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: I think there's a pattern here that where we're on

994
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: these issues the touch culture and touch race, where the

995
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: chief of Staff is not that far away from m

996
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Heileman saying that that that three star General

997
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: Kelly lost his son in combat uh, say he's a racist.

998
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: That's this. This is how the Democrats, this is how

999
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: they analyze that was on Morning Joe. I could tell

1000
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: just from Mika big Oh my gosh, Um, that's just

1001
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: a slur. I mean, that's so unacceptable from Heilman. And

1002
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: I would note that, you know, in a previous administration,

1003
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: if you made such a such a baseless and scirless

1004
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: charge against the White House Chief of Staff, you wouldn't

1005
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: be allowed on the different TV networks. Really, you know,

1006
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: you would be told, oh no, you can't do that.

1007
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: But going after John Kelly saying he is a racists

1008
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: also just not here that this is one of the

1009
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: games of Democrats love to play. They'll say, well, and

1010
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: they'll name a bunch of minorities and women that Trump

1011
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: has attacked, or that one of Trump's people, one of

1012
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: his top advisors, has you know, publicly tangled with in

1013
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: some way. And I just want to note, Okay, if

1014
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: there's one thing we all know, it's a trumpell tangle

1015
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: with anybody, all right, Trump Trump is he's given out.

1016
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: Trump slaps left and right. I mean, he does not discriminate.

1017
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: He will throw down with anyone. And it's just so

1018
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: pathetic that they try to fit into this this narrative,

1019
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: into this mold that somehow Trump is only picking on her.

1020
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: In this case, John Kelly, his wife, his chief of staff,

1021
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: is only picking on minorities and women. Therefore he's a

1022
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: misogynist and a racist. Like there's just no basis, and

1023
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: this is this is a symptom of Trump arrangement syndrome,

1024
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: because it's an argument that can't stand up to five

1025
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: minutes of scrutiny. Right, it is just Trump's arrangement syndrome,

1026
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 1: pure and simple. I just noticed I saw a commercial

1027
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: secning with a statue of Liberty on an island, and

1028
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: I've never been to the statue of liberty. For a

1029
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: guy who loves freedom and America so much and literally

1030
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: lives in New York City and used to have, you know,

1031
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: a window where you could see when I would go

1032
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: to work, could see the statue of Liberty. I feel

1033
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: like that's unacceptable. I feel like I'm gonna have to

1034
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: remedy this, and you need to buck slap yourself. I

1035
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: think I do need to buck slap myself. That needs

1036
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:28,439
Speaker 1: to get okay, alright, alright, that easily remedied. Next up, here.

1037
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: There's a few different clips that got It's to the Highlman.

1038
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,959
Speaker 1: One he's just being a punk. He gets a buck slap,

1039
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: and then you get Couch and Nelly versus Navarro now

1040
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: and a. Navarro is a CNN favorite because she says

1041
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: she's a Republican, but all she does is trash Republicans,

1042
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: particularly Donald Trump, and gets away with saying just a

1043
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: long slew a series of idiotic and nasty things on television.

1044
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: They love her over there though, because she is great.

1045
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: She's a Republican quote unquote who's great at trashing Republicans,

1046
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: never has really a terse word for a Democrat, but

1047
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: loves to. And she speaks for the Latino community at

1048
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: some level, right, That's that's part of She'll say, oh

1049
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: we know Latinos this, and Latinos that, she'll speak for

1050
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Speaker 1: Latino community. She is among and I can tell you

1051
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: this from my own experience over there, among the least insightful,

1052
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: least well read, least polite, and least worthwhile commentators on

1053
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: TV at CNN period, among the very very worst, which

1054
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: I will say that's saying something. She's going up against

1055
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Speaker 1: Ken Cucinelli, who I'm sure you're a familiar with from

1056
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: his long career in uh in Republican politics. But they

1057
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: got into the DOCCA thing and things got a little nasty.

1058
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: We haven't gotten to the heart of this problem at all.

1059
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Speaker 1: The President is willing to have a showdown with the

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Speaker 1: Democrats again, that's where the shutdown comment came from, because

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Speaker 1: he knows how it's gonna end. And my last comment

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Speaker 1: is that since the last shutdown, only one side has

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Speaker 1: given any ground on this, and that is President Trump

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Speaker 1: has gone from the six nine thousand actual dock and

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Speaker 1: number to a hypothetical number of one point eight million

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Speaker 1: that we aren't even sure of before those people have

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Speaker 1: made contact of the So the words of General Kelly,

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Speaker 1: they don't concern you at all. Look, the guy's a

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Speaker 1: military man. He started off what you all have characterized

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Speaker 1: him saying, is everybody's lazy. That isn't what he said.

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Speaker 1: He started off, and you played the quote some people

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Speaker 1: think that they might have been scared and so they

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Speaker 1: didn't signet might have come. He said, get off your

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Speaker 1: that's disrespectful. And I don't think, of course to pretend,

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Speaker 1: of course people who cares. I care that people are

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Speaker 1: breaking the law, that over people who can that people

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Speaker 1: who care, who are gonna get no, I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: who cares. Let me tell you who cares? Can I mean,

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Speaker 1: let me explain to you who cares? Damn question about

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Speaker 1: who cares? That people who care are the immigrants who

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Speaker 1: are special. And she just keeps going on and talking

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Speaker 1: over them and talking over that. That's what That's what

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Speaker 1: an overro does, ever see an end to talk over

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01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: people yell and scream and trump and racist and so

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Speaker 1: mean to immigrants that it's all about immigrants all the time.

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Speaker 1: I would know that one of the one of the

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Speaker 1: tricks that you may have if you could watch that

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Speaker 1: whole clip, which I wouldn't recommend, but it went on

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Speaker 1: for like six minutes. We played a little bit of

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Speaker 1: it there for you, is that they say that the

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Speaker 1: segment is ending, and so that means that you know

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Speaker 1: they're they're wrapping it up. And then though when one

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Speaker 1: of the two Democrat guests it was three on one

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Speaker 1: Don Lemon Democrat, Van Jones Democrat, and a Navar Democrat,

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Speaker 1: and then when they're saying we'll give you the last

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Speaker 1: world will go, then they top and they let Navarro

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Speaker 1: just go on this this tirade about you know how

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Speaker 1: Trump and racism and immigrants and blah blah blah blah

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Speaker 1: blah and just just the usual blather, the usual verbal

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Speaker 1: vomit that comes out of her on CNN, and they

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Speaker 1: extend the segment magically, it just gets longer all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, Oh no, let her go, let her go. Okay,

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Speaker 1: she's uh, she's slamming him, she's smearing him, She's she's

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Speaker 1: destroying his argument, she's attacking the president. She well, she's

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Speaker 1: just really attacking Cucinelli to uh, and then it's time

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Speaker 1: to go to commercial break CNN. This is CNN. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They all deserve bucks laps over there these days. But

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Speaker 1: we'll be back with more. Stay with me the Center.

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Speaker 1: John Heilman here. Um, the President apparently would like to

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Speaker 1: throw himself a parade, military parade, um troops and tanks

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Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, And there's some planning

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Speaker 1: now underwear at least dates are being considered. What say you,

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01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: I say it's a fantastic waste of money to amuse

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Speaker 1: the president. I don't think a show of military might.

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Speaker 1: It reminds you of what the Soviets do and what

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Speaker 1: the Chinese do uh. And we need to honor our

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Speaker 1: men and women in uniform, and but I think we

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Speaker 1: ought to do so in a way that does not

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Speaker 1: necessarily appear bellicoasts are threatening to the rest of the world.

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Speaker 1: We want to be peacemakers, not warmakers. It also, uh

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Speaker 1: can be perceived as jinguists in some respects uh, saber

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Speaker 1: rattling in some respects. There you have a bunch of

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Speaker 1: Democrats who, no surprise, all of a sudden, are concerned

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Speaker 1: about government spending. Oh my gosh, a parade. And this

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Speaker 1: is one of the first times I think I've ever

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Speaker 1: heard Democrats in elected office argue against any parade that

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Speaker 1: I'm familiar with. I mean, we got we got parades

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Speaker 1: going on for everything these days, folks. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: live in New York City, and let me tell you,

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Speaker 1: it's you know, uh, this week it's the Army you know,

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Speaker 1: not really, but you know, it's the Armenian Parade, and

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Speaker 1: next week it's the Bulgarian Parade, and next week it's

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Speaker 1: the Bolivian Parade, and next week it's you know, the

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Speaker 1: Southern County Kerry of Ireland Parade. And it's like just

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Speaker 1: parade after parade, parades all the time. All right, Darvon's

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Speaker 1: having parades. I will tell you, as a general rule,

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Speaker 1: i'm kind of anti parade. This will not surprise any

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Speaker 1: of you. I think that parades are overrated. Now, I'm

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Speaker 1: not anti them as that I begrudge anyone who likes

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Speaker 1: them or thinks that they should all end or something.

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Speaker 1: I just find the parades or it's like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's loud, the floats. You're like, Okay, I gotta wait

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Speaker 1: a few more minutes. It's gonna be another it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a you know, another bunch of are I I

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Speaker 1: can hear some drums. Let's give it a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna, they're walking, they're coming. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just not the most exciting spectator spectator sport I've

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Speaker 1: every Yeah, I know, I'm hate it right now. Oh

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Speaker 1: yeah you agree. Oh you're with me all right. Producer

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Speaker 1: Mike is giving me the thumbs down on parades, the

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Speaker 1: thumbs up on parades or not. You know, like sports

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Speaker 1: teams have parades. Although your Eagles fans had their own

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Speaker 1: parade by friend, I saw that. But yeah, you know, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a parade. I wanna have a parade of

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Speaker 1: a parade. Here's the thing though, The one time when

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I like, I think that

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Speaker 1: this is important and you need to show up is

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Speaker 1: like Veterans Day. Yeah, Veterans Day parade, Memorial Day parade.

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Speaker 1: Those are parades that matter. Right. So anything that involves

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Speaker 1: respect for the armed forces in the military, I think

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Speaker 1: goes into a different category of parade. And this notion

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Speaker 1: that Democrats have that it's so crazy that we would

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Speaker 1: take some time to celebrate. You notice none of these

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Speaker 1: people like, what's the Women's March about? What the heck

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Speaker 1: are they complaining about? Right? I mean, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: you want to you want to get into the cost

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Speaker 1: of some of these things that the Women's marching terms

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Speaker 1: of Oh, that's right, city services over time, clean up,

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Speaker 1: the clean up for some of the parades in New

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Speaker 1: York City, it looks like a hurricane slash, tornado slash,

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Speaker 1: you know, bombing raid went through downtown Manhattan. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy what happens after these parades. So it is

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Speaker 1: very expensive, uh, in a city budgetary sense, I mean,

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Speaker 1: in a national budget having a parade, I think it's

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Speaker 1: pretty minor. But the point is there's cross associated with

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Speaker 1: all this stuff. But we're gonna get We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: cheap all of a sudden. We're gonna want to pend uh,

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Speaker 1: pinch pennies, pinch pennies. Uh, We're gonna want to pinch

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Speaker 1: pennies when it comes to honor in the military. Let's

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Speaker 1: just take a little step back here for a second. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And and we're gonna start saying it's jingoistic. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're not North Korea, Dick Durbin. We're not saying that, Hey,

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Speaker 1: look at these big missiles, We're gonna fire them at you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's not the point. It's just for us

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Speaker 1: to celebrate our own military. And I wouldn't. We've got

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Speaker 1: a few million active duty and recently uh recently separated

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Speaker 1: from the service veterans who I fought wars in Iraq, Afghanistan,

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Speaker 1: deployed all over the world. They defeated the Taliban, they

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Speaker 1: defeated Saddam Hussein, ousted him from power, defeated the Al

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Speaker 1: Qaeda in Iraq insurgency, handed Iraq back over to the Iraqis.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm just going off the top of

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Speaker 1: my head. By the way, I'm not trying to forget

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Speaker 1: or leave out anything, but has they've done a tremendous

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Speaker 1: amount of good work for the world, and we all

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Speaker 1: owe them, as the American people a debt of gratitude

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Speaker 1: will never be able to pay. And so if we

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Speaker 1: have a parade, why why is that? This reminds me

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Speaker 1: of when Democrats right after Not eleven, we're kind of like, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about flags, you know, all the flag waving.

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Speaker 1: Maybe everyone was like, I'm sorry, what's that. You got

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Speaker 1: a problem with the American flag? Now elected officials and

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Speaker 1: media pundits, because that's weird now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: because Trump is for a military parade, there against it.

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Speaker 1: So maybe I should give them the benefit of the

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Speaker 1: doubt and assume here that what's really at work is

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Speaker 1: just their Trump derangement syndrome, and that they don't have

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Speaker 1: a problem with a parade for the military as a concept.

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Speaker 1: They're just pretending to because they hate Trump so much.

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Speaker 1: I just hate Trump. They just get so upset about

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Speaker 1: all of this. But I recall, you know, after World

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Speaker 1: War Two, for example, some really timeless and inspiring photos

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Speaker 1: of our our boys coming back from overseas, so to speak,

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Speaker 1: our men and women in uniform. Coming back to the States,

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Speaker 1: ticker tape parade, the whole thing. What's what's wrong with that?

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Speaker 1: I would need some of these Democrats to explain, Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're worried about the budget, right, sure, that's what it's about.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the biggest crock of nonsense. But they're

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Speaker 1: opposed to the optics of this. They think that the

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Speaker 1: perception of a parade would somehow what antagonized North Korea?

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Speaker 1: Do we care about antagonizing North Korea? I think I

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Speaker 1: think a little more antagonism against North Korea is probably

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Speaker 1: a good thing. That's you know, the assaumble. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, anyone who says that we should uh, we

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Speaker 1: are not or we are overestimating the furer and opposition

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Speaker 1: to this doesn't pay attention to what's going on in

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Speaker 1: the world around them. You've got a guy named Arne

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Speaker 1: men Coney who is a former a former US Senate candidate.

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling he probably got a grand total

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Speaker 1: of uh, you know, five votes, But he says, we quote,

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Speaker 1: we already have thirteen people who have signed up to

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Speaker 1: lay down in front of the tanks. If Trump brings

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Speaker 1: out a military parade. This is not a military authoritarian state.

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Speaker 1: We will you join us hashtag Trump parade. These people

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Speaker 1: think that this is like Tianamen Square, you know that

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Speaker 1: they're standing up the Trump, the dictator. It's like, no,

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Speaker 1: this would be U. S. Military. You know, it would

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Speaker 1: be a parade where we're celebrating the military and thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. This should be a big thank you

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Speaker 1: for your service day. Right, So what's what's the issue.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it so interesting Democrats? You know, I know they

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Speaker 1: all say things like, oh, we support the troops. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's bipartisan. A lot of Democrats they got some questions

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Speaker 1: about the troops. Be honest with you. A lot of

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Speaker 1: Democrats in places they don't talk about at parties, they wonder,

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Speaker 1: you know, why didn't they have the I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: Democrat elected politicians now, but they wonder, you know, they

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Speaker 1: didn't have the the fortitude to do it. And look,

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Speaker 1: I know there are other Democrats who are in Congress

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Speaker 1: who served honorably and are great and all that too.

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Speaker 1: But if you're looking for disdain for the military and

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Speaker 1: political circles, even it might be slightly closeted disdain. But

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Speaker 1: if you're looking for it's always among Democrats. You never

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Speaker 1: find Republicans that are like, yeah, military, I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: iffy on it. There are some Democrats that are like, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little iffy on the whole US military thing.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's just the way it is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's the way that they're ideology lines up on a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of things, um not, not the least of

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Speaker 1: which is that we are the cause of problems in

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Speaker 1: the world. Right that's a classic leftist Democrat talking point,

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Speaker 1: that we cause, that our military causes problems all over

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Speaker 1: the world. And the Gnome Chomsky view, if you will,

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Speaker 1: on the military, that's a Democrat issue, that's not a

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Speaker 1: Republican one. So like I I don't like parades, but

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Speaker 1: I'd be down for a parade for a military And

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01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: I think that Trump's onto onto something here, if nothing else.

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Speaker 1: Once again, he manages to expose that Democrats just always

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01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: seem to have a little bit of a well Trump

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01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: arrangement syndrome clouds their judgment on everything. But also when

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01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: it comes to military, it's like, why aren't you guys

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01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: on board for this a little bit sooner? A little strange,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. I want to tell you about a Trump

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01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 1: voter and a March for Women person that they had

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Speaker 1: quite they had quite a little a little sit down.

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01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna not sit down, but all an interaction. This

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01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: is gonna come up. You've got to hear this. It

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01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 1: is illuminating about the way that coastal blue Democrat voters

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01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 1: view Trump. Trump is um and people who vote for

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01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: either of those things. Um, I think we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: some fun with it. So what happens when when somebody

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01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: from the Women's March is having car trouble and is

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01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of the

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01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 1: wilds of Virginia confronted with that always ah, always terrifying

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01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 1: situation of a Trump voter who comes to her aid

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01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: on the side of the highway. Oh, we will discuss

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01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 1: that and much more, my friends coming up in the

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Speaker 1: next hour. Stay with me. Welcome back to our three

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Speaker 1: of the buck Sections show. Everybody, Thank you so much

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01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: for being here with me. So, there was a column

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01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: that came out recently, and I feel like it was

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01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 1: such an excellent, excellent exploration of the Trump derangement syndrome.

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01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:14,839
Speaker 1: It's almost like a clinical study in Trump arrangement syndrome.

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01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: And the piece was in the Tampa Bay Times, so

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01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 1: there you have it. And it was just published a

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01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: couple of days ago or a day or two ago,

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01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: and the title was I detest Trump, but a redneck

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01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: fixed the redneck fixed my prius with zip ties. Now

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01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: for us to really written by a woman named Ruth

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01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: mayer Um. So I wanted to share with you some

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01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: of what's in this piece because if you wanted understanding

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01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: for what Trump derangement syndrome does to people, I think

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01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: this article is a really excellent exploration of it. This

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01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: is the you know, this is the progressive latte drinker

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01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: coming face to face with an American with like just

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01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 1: like an everyday American. It's terrifying something you are, like,

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01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 1: I know, Buck, those latte drinkers are really scary. So

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01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 1: here you go. I went to this. These are her words.

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01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 1: I'm reading to you from her peace. I went to

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01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,839
Speaker 1: the Women's March in Washington, d C. And I arrived

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01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 1: home feeling heartbroken. It was the last way I expected

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01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 1: to feel. I had spent the morning sitting on the

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01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 1: steps of the Lincoln Memorial with my sixteen year old daughter,

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01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:32,759
Speaker 1: whose silent tears on election night in ten had marked

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01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 1: the beginning of this national nightmare for me. She had

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01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: insisted we drive from Charlotte to d C this year

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01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 1: so that we could quote protests in front of the

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01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: President's house. We heard all of the inspiring speakers. We

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01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: relish the creativity of the posters and slogans, but I

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01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 1: guess not the hats, because I got rid of those.

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01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: Being among so many like minded people was comforting. I

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01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: heard one woman say, I love being here today. It

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01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: makes me feel less alone. I wanted to be with

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01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: people who shared my anger because I have been so

1324
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: angry about Donald Trump this past year. I have been

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01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: angry at my country for electing this man, Angry at

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01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: my neighbors who support him, Angry at the wealthy who

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01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,879
Speaker 1: sacrificed our country and its goodness for tax breaks. Angry

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01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 1: at the coal miners who believed his promises. All right,

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01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: ed quote, I gotta I gotta take I gotta take

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01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: a step back from this for a second. Here. I'm

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01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 1: gonna go out on limb and say, this woman is angry.

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01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just gonna put that out. I'm sensing some

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01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 1: anger from her. I think it's maybe clouding her judgment

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01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 1: a little bit. I also think she may have internalized

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01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: national politics a little too much. You know, it's really

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01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: not all about you. It's okay, you don't have to

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01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 1: cry at night. I also would note that, Okay, her

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01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 1: daughters sixteen, so at least she can have some idea

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01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: of what's going on. She didn't pull the favorite progressive

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01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 1: trick of the first six months or so, which was

1341
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 1: my four year old came up to me and said,

1342
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do about the change in marginal

1343
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: progressive tax rights for millionaires and billionaires? It's like, I

1344
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,759
Speaker 1: don't think your four year old ask you that question, actually,

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01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about journalists, by the way, like people

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01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: that have careers and in the media and and in

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01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: writing and supposedly spreading truth. They're like, my eight year

1348
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: old came up to me and said, I don't understand

1349
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: how the president can withhold further action on deferred action

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01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 1: for childhood arrivals. It's like, no, your six year old

1351
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: son did not ask that question. But it's cute that

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01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: you like to use that as a trope to show

1353
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: how outraged you are. But anyways, sixteen, fine, sixteen, you're

1354
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: allowed to be upset about politics. Crying about politicists at

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01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 1: sixteen strikes me as a little bit, uh, a little

1356
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: bit too much. But then again, some sixteen year old

1357
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 1: girls cry when the mall closes too early, or sixteen

1358
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: year old guys cry when they lose a video game, right,

1359
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: So okay, so people cry, fine, fair enough. Whatever you

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01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 1: can tell though she's a little angry. You can tell

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01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: she's a little upset. And this is part of the

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01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 1: mentality that we see time and again when it comes

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01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 1: to the anti trumpers um that they do take this

1364
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 1: so very very personally. People ask me all the time,

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01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: how do you live in New York City, and you're

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01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: all these people, I just I just live my life,

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01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,759
Speaker 1: you know. Uh. It's you know when in the movie

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01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: Forgetting Sarah Marshall, Jonah Jonah Hill, who has a CD

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Speaker 1: that he's made, goes up to Russell Brand, who's supposed

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01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 1: to be a rock star, and he's like, hey, I

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01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: just wondering if you've got a chance to listen to

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Speaker 1: my CD, and Russell Brand's like, no, I just went

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01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: on living my life. And that's actually my approach to

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01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: living around a whole bunch of progressives in New York City.

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01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 1: When I'm not actually working, right, when I'm not writing

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01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: or on radio or TV or something, I just I

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01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 1: don't engage, right do I? In my in my pre

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01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: in my pre pre black Rifle coffee days, for example,

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01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: what I go to the anarchist coffee shop that's right

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01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,799
Speaker 1: near me, and and and here they're they're terrible music.

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01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: And I'm sure try to avoid looking at all the

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01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 1: all the posters about the next Women's march. Yeah, you know,

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01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: before I knew about better options. Sure, I just try

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01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: to ignore this stuff. But the anti trumpers can't ignore.

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01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 1: They can't separate it out. It's all so intertwined in

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01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 1: their identity and in their sense of self. And that's

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01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: also why they aren't impervious to new information, new facts,

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01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: good faith arguments, because to change their mind about much

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01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 1: of the reasons are many of the reasons they have

1390
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: for hating Trump is to change their mind about how

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01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 1: righteous and brilliant and wonderful they are. It's not about Hey,

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01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 1: this is about this is public policy, which is complicated,

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01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 1: and here's a different approach to this, and maybe you

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01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 1: should think about it. It's I'm a good person. I

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01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: voted for Hillary. You guys, are still mean you voted

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01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: for Trump? So she went to the women's march. Fine,

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01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: what are they marching about? Not really clear to me,

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01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 1: although not for unborn babies. But that's another discussion for

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01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 1: another time. Uh. Anyway, she went back to my fury.

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01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: We gotta keep going here. So and she's mad at

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01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: hole miners. I would note I'm guessing of whom she

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01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: has met zero, But she's mad at coal miners for

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01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 1: believing Trump. She's mad at everybody. I mean, you could

1404
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 1: really say this is the quintessential Remember how Pajama Boy

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01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 1: was like the ultimate Obama voter. This woman in this

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01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 1: article comes across as the quintessential Hillary voter. She's just

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01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 1: so angry that Hillary didn't shatter that glass ceiling. I

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01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 1: will read you some more of her piece here. My

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01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 1: fury has been bottomless. I drink my cup. I drink

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01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: my morning coffee from a cup that says I hate

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01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: to wake up when Donald Trump is president. I swear

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01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm not making this up. Guys. The constancy of my

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01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 1: outrage has been exhausting, yet I have not found a

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01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 1: way to quell it. Nearly each day has brought our

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01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: new reason to stoke the fire, but a day with

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01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: my daughter communing with the angryly aggrieved seemed a good

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01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 1: way to try. Oh man, she actually drinks coffee out

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01:23:57,840 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: of a cup every day. That says, I hate waking

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01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: up with Donald Trump. First of all, where does you

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01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 1: where does she even get that? I'm assuming she went

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01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: online for like I hate Trump merch and found this.

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01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 1: But you know, talk about a self reinforcing message, like,

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01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, turne it down a little bit, maybe get

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01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: like a you know, a little image of a puppy

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01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: or something for your coffee mug. You know, maybe just

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01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 1: take a step back, lady. Anyway, So then she goes

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01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: on too, and this is what this is what we're

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01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: going to get into a second. Then she goes on

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01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: to tell about the rest of her day and the

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01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: unexpected happened after protesting and exuding and really reveling in

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01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: wallowing in her hatred and fury against Trump and all

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01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 1: the Trump voters and all the Oh, they're just those

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01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 1: in the like like Peter's, like Peter Struck from the FBI,

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01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, those those hillbillies, right. Oh, she's so disgusted

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01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: by them. But then fate intervenes and the woman who's

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01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 1: any about how she's just so angry. She can't find

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01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 1: enough outlets for her anti Trump anger. It doesn't work

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01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: in politics, from what I understand, Like this is, uh,

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01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: she comes across an actual Trump voter, No, she and

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01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: she has no choice. She has no choice but to

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01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: to stand there, and she doesn't want to make any

1442
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: sudden movements. She doesn't want to give the Trump voter

1443
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: an excuse to charge. You know, you don't want to

1444
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: make too much eye contact either with the Trump voter,

1445
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 1: because the Trump voter might might take that as a

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01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 1: as a signal for you vying for dominance, you know,

1447
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 1: but you don't want to run away from the Trump

1448
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 1: voter because then the Trump voter may think your prey.

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01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 1: So this pro Hillary, anti Trump voter had to face

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01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 1: her greatest fear. She had to actually have a conversation

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01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: with the Trump voter. I will tell you about it

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01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: right after this break welcome back. When I last left you,

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01:25:55,400 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: we had a priest driving women's marsh attending ang gree

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01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 1: Hillary voter who is not just never ever Trump, she

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01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:07,919
Speaker 1: is I hate Trump so much, and she was squaring

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01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:12,480
Speaker 1: off against that most dangerous, that most dangerous of opponents

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01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 1: in every day Trump voter terrifying I know. Let me

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01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 1: read to you from her account. She survived it, so

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01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 1: we can all be thankful for that, the Trump voter

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01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 1: and her did not. This did not end with tragedy.

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01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 1: Here is what happened. Quote. Before I could do anything

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01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:34,759
Speaker 1: but park my gray Prius. Of course it's a Gray Prius,

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01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 1: a man rushed over. I heard you coming down that road,

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01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: he said. Before I could say much, he started surveying

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01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: the situation. You said she had car trouble. Oh, she

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01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: had car trouble. She thought she had blown out a tire,

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01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:52,879
Speaker 1: and she had to pull off at the nearest exit.

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Speaker 1: There was a popping sound followed by a screeching, and

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01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: she was worried she might be driving on metal, very dangerous.

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Speaker 1: So she stuck there. And in this moment of need,

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Speaker 1: in this terrifying ordeal, who comes along with somebody that

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Speaker 1: she clearly identifies as a Trump voter. So he says,

1473
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 1: I heard you coming down that road, and she said that.

1474
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 1: He didn't so much offer to help as get right

1475
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: to work. Quote it turned out that I hadn't blown

1476
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 1: a tire. A huge piece of plastic under the front

1477
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 1: bumper had come loose, causing the screeching as it scraped

1478
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 1: along the road. After determining that he couldn't cut the

1479
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 1: plastic off, he ran over to his car to grab

1480
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 1: some zip ties so he could secure the piece back

1481
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 1: in place. He did all of this so quickly that

1482
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 1: I didn't have time to grab the prominent resist of

1483
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 1: course sticker on the side of my Prius, which suddenly

1484
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 1: felt needlessly alienating. You don't say. As this man lay

1485
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: on the ground under my car with his miracle zip ties,

1486
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: I asked if he thought they would hold for four

1487
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: more hours of driving. Just ask any redneck like me

1488
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 1: what you can do with zip ties. Well, zip ties

1489
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 1: and duct tape. You can solve almost any problem. You'll

1490
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 1: get home safe, turned to his teenage son standing nearby.

1491
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: You can say that again. His son agreed. The whole

1492
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: interaction lasted ten minutes. Tops Catherine and I that's the

1493
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:27,600
Speaker 1: name of her daughter, made it home safely, survived. She

1494
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 1: survived the Trump voter. He didn't. He didn't take her hostage,

1495
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 1: he didn't kidnap her. He just was really nice and

1496
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 1: fixed her car right away. And yeah, she was ninety

1497
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 1: minutes south of d C. That's way outside of Beltway territory, folks,

1498
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: that's like the wilderness. I mean, you're practically in more

1499
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 1: door when you go ninety minutes south of d C,

1500
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 1: because that's actually real Virginia. It's not the Northern Virginia

1501
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 1: part that has now been taken into d C and

1502
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 1: the Metroplex right ninety minutes is like, I mean, you're

1503
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: gonna hit Charlottesville before long. It's Virginia, Virginia. And sure

1504
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 1: enough she she was approached by a Trump voter in

1505
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: her great prius because of course that's what she drives.

1506
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 1: And he just ran over there helped her out, didn't

1507
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: didn't you know? It's weird the and she just I

1508
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 1: will also know it with all this, she just identifies

1509
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 1: him as a Trump voter. I am assuming that this

1510
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 1: gentleman was I don't know, did he have like a

1511
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: mullet trucker hat and a Maga T shirt on? I mean,

1512
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: what she gives no no explanation of this from what

1513
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to How does she even know that he's

1514
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 1: Maybe she's just like, oh my gosh, strikes me as

1515
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: a Trump He was wearing a car heart jacket. Strikes

1516
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 1: me as a Trump voter. Good gosh. Um, he looked

1517
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 1: like his hands had done heavy labor recently. He must

1518
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: be a Trump voter. It's like, I'm not. I mean,

1519
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm giving you more detail than she did. I don't

1520
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 1: know how she knew. I'm she's driving a great Prius,

1521
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 1: she has a resist bumper sticker on. I can tell

1522
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: you there's a lot of stuff. There is a preponderance

1523
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 1: of cats at home most likely. Yes, that's right, not

1524
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 1: like one or two. That's cool. Cats are fine. Like anyway,

1525
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: she she doesn't. She says, this guy's a Trump voter.

1526
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 1: How she knows, I don't know. Um maybe because he

1527
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 1: said like ma'am and was polite and friendly and helpful

1528
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 1: to her and wasn't like, oh my gosh, we have

1529
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 1: to call Triple A right away. Like he's like, I

1530
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 1: got some zip tiz, let's fix it. So here's what

1531
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:33,600
Speaker 1: she She goes on though, And I will say the

1532
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 1: story has a happy ending, folks. I'd like to tell

1533
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 1: you stories with happy endings. When I can't, A story

1534
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 1: goes on like this. This is our author here, Ruth.

1535
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 1: She is a oh, she's a communications consultant. Mm hmm. Interesting.

1536
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 1: So it's like communications consultants, social media manager these you know,

1537
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 1: you tend to have a lot of a lot of

1538
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 1: Bernie Bros. And Bernie's sisters in in that in those categories.

1539
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:58,879
Speaker 1: But here's what she says in her piece, Our encounter

1540
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,639
Speaker 1: changed the day for me. When I tried to dive

1541
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 1: back into my liberal podcast, my mind kept being pulled

1542
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 1: back to the gas station. I couldn't stop thinking about

1543
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: the man who called himself a redneck. She couldn't stop

1544
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:13,600
Speaker 1: thinking about that. I mean, look, you know redneck. You

1545
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: know some of this guy's got some manly appeal. Probably

1546
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,679
Speaker 1: I'm just putting that out there. Who came to our rescue.

1547
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,759
Speaker 1: I sized him up as a Trump voter again based

1548
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 1: on the fact that he's good with his hands and

1549
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 1: fixed a car. But there you go, Trump voters, you

1550
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 1: should feel good about that one, just as he likely

1551
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:31,600
Speaker 1: drew inferences from my prius and resist sicker. You know

1552
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 1: what's so funny, I'm obviously not quoting her anymore. I

1553
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 1: guarantee this guy wasn't like, oh wow, there's a Hillary voter.

1554
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go help her with my zip dies. He

1555
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 1: was just like, a woman needs help with car, will

1556
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: help her, because right but she's like, he must have

1557
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 1: sized me up. He probably knew right away. I just

1558
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 1: come from the Hillary March or whatever they're calling it.

1559
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 1: All right, back to what she says. For a moment,

1560
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 1: we were just two people and the exchange was kindness

1561
01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 1: his and gratitude mine. As I drove home, I felt

1562
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:03,680
Speaker 1: the full extent to which Trump has actually diminished my

1563
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 1: desire to be kind. He is keeping me so outraged

1564
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 1: that I hold ill will towards others on a daily basis.

1565
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 1: Trump is not just ruining our nation, he is ruining me.

1566
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 1: By the end of the drive, I felt heartbroken. All right,

1567
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 1: So go there, let's you see what I said. It's

1568
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 1: a happy ending. I mean, it's like there's a silver lining.

1569
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure we could say it's a totally happy ending,

1570
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 1: because here's what's going on. This woman has the self

1571
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 1: awareness to realize that once she's super judge. If MS

1572
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:36,719
Speaker 1: Molly was here, she'd be like, oh, that's very judgy

1573
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:38,560
Speaker 1: to say that this guy's a Trump vote her with no.

1574
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's not like he hadn't I don't. I

1575
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 1: didn't hear anything about a Trump bumper sticker on his

1576
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:45,600
Speaker 1: car or something. He was driving a pickup truck and

1577
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 1: he had workman's boots on. It was terrified, Like, what's

1578
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 1: the problem I was? I guess as she figured she

1579
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 1: was in rural Virginia and there's a decent chance that

1580
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 1: sure enough you know this guy anyway. Uh. But instead

1581
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 1: of taking the lesson she should take from this is

1582
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 1: maybe I need to rethink how much I internalize politics

1583
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 1: and how much I have been fed this steady diet

1584
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 1: of real hatred for Trump, as though he's the Antichrist.

1585
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 1: He's he's basically he's like basically Hitler, I mean all

1586
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,639
Speaker 1: that stuff. Instead of thinking again about all of that,

1587
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 1: she's actually like, you know what, I feel bad that

1588
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm mean and and nasty to some people, at least

1589
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 1: in my in my head, that's my first inclination because

1590
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 1: of Trump. Therefore, you'll see where I'm going here. Her

1591
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 1: meanness is not a function of the progressive brainwashing that

1592
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 1: she's had from the media and everything else. Her meanness

1593
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 1: is Trump's fault. And I kind of wish I could

1594
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 1: sit down with miss miss Mayor or Meyer Mayor. However,

1595
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 1: he said, I wish I could sit down with Ruth.

1596
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 1: Can I call your Ruth? No, you may not, sir um,

1597
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 1: and just say to her, you know, maybe a better

1598
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 1: approach to this would be to just treat everybody like

1599
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 1: you would want to be treated, which is what they

1600
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 1: tell us all starting in around kindergarten, I think, and

1601
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 1: just be cool and like, have your beliefs and politics. Look,

1602
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 1: you want to go march in the Women's March, that's great,

1603
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 1: do your thing, but don't come to all kinds of

1604
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: judgments about somebody. I mean, you don't have about judging him.

1605
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,639
Speaker 1: She's you know, just because he calls himself a redneck.

1606
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some rednecks that voted for Hillary. You know,

1607
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 1: they're like probably four or five somewhere in the country.

1608
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 1: But no, seriously, like, like, just because he called himself

1609
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 1: a redneck doesn't mean that she knows all that much

1610
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,679
Speaker 1: about him. She doesn't, you know, she doesn't know him.

1611
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:36,640
Speaker 1: She doesn't understand what he what he's been through, and

1612
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 1: what he's dealt with. And so just be a nice

1613
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 1: person instead and stop thinking that politics is the defining

1614
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 1: characteristic of who you are day in and day out.

1615
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: That should be I mean, then we'd get to a

1616
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 1: happy ending, right then we would be in a better

1617
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 1: position here. Um, she says at the end, it felt

1618
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 1: like a sign that maybe if we treat one another

1619
01:34:56,439 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 1: with kindness, ingratitude, putting our most loving selves for or,

1620
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:03,639
Speaker 1: this moment can transform into something more bearable. But how

1621
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 1: do we hold onto the fire fueling our resistance to

1622
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 1: the cruelty Trump unleashes, but also embraced the world with love.

1623
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 1: I wish I knew she sees she's getting close to

1624
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 1: the answer, but I'm gonna have to give her a

1625
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 1: red X on the paper here because she's not getting

1626
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 1: the answer right. Yeah, don't be such a judgmental weirdo

1627
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 1: about people because you differ with them politically. Don't think

1628
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 1: that your own politics define who you are. But also

1629
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 1: don't get so wrapped up in the national political situation

1630
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 1: that it's affecting your day to day life. Lady, if

1631
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 1: you're drinking from an I Hate Trump monk every day,

1632
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 1: you got a problem. It's time to admit you have

1633
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 1: a problem. So I hope she comes to that at

1634
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 1: some point. But she survived her encounter with the redneck

1635
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 1: self described she she's okay, She's okay, everybody. She might

1636
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 1: have learned something, and that guy sounds awesome. By the way,

1637
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 1: I'd like to have some gluten free tequila with him

1638
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 1: at some point, and we're rolling a quick break, we'll

1639
01:35:56,920 --> 01:36:00,600
Speaker 1: be back with Selena Zito telling us about russ Bell Democrats.

1640
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 1: Perfect transition here, stay with me. Well, you know, there's

1641
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 1: a lot of political stories going on right now, and

1642
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 1: some of them aren't getting nearly enough attention because of

1643
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:14,760
Speaker 1: all the Russia memo collusion Muller nonsense. But we've got

1644
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 1: a national political reporter with us now to bring us

1645
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 1: up to speed on the mess in Pennsylvania. Our friends

1646
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 1: Selena Zero is with us now. She's written in the

1647
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 1: Washington Washington Examiner on this and she wants to tell

1648
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 1: us about what's going on. Selena, great to have you back,

1649
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 1: always great to be on the show. Thank you so much.

1650
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 1: So tell me what's going on in in Pennsylvania with

1651
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 1: and there's redistricting and the Democrats are having a big

1652
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 1: rough time. What's happening. So we've got a couple of

1653
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 1: things going on in Pennsylvania. Let's start with the with

1654
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 1: the congressional map uh tow or yeah to know. About

1655
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 1: ten days ago, as the state Supreme Court ruled that

1656
01:36:56,720 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 1: the current congressional map as drawn was illegal, unconstitutional, unconstitutional

1657
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 1: under the state, and that has to be thrown out,

1658
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 1: redrawn by the state legislature, which is a majority Republican,

1659
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 1: and then signed by the Democratic governor and put in

1660
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 1: place intended, which is crazy, right, Like can you just

1661
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 1: imagine imagine redrawing eighteen congressional districts intendees and then um

1662
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 1: changing them, and then people have to have their petitions

1663
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 1: in so they can run, and people will then have

1664
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 1: to figure out who where they live because it's going

1665
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 1: to change. So the Republicans balked at it, and they

1666
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 1: took it back to the state Supreme Court and asked

1667
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 1: them to put a stay on their own ruling, which

1668
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:51,599
Speaker 1: of course they were never going to do. So then

1669
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 1: they took it to the U. S. Supreme Court and

1670
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 1: uh sam Alito said he's not going to at touch this.

1671
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 1: So now we're back to all of the eighteen congressional

1672
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 1: districts having to be redrawn. Of those eighteen seats, thirteen

1673
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 1: of them are held by Republicans, five by Democrats. Of

1674
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 1: those thirteen republicans, five have decided not to run. Whether

1675
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 1: there are um like a lot of them, Like Schuster,

1676
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:28,479
Speaker 1: you know, his chairmanship and transportation expires, and these guys

1677
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 1: don't like to go from being in leadership to one

1678
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Speaker 1: of four hundred and thirty five members, So a lot

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01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 1: of them are retiring. And um, so that's in a

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Speaker 1: nutshell where this is so and they lost their leadership

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Speaker 1: or step down. The Democratic Party in Pennsylvania, yes, oh yes,

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Speaker 1: And there's also the state Democratic chairman, Marcel Grons, who

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Speaker 1: is was a very respected state party chair leader. He

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Speaker 1: was one of the first sort of Democrats to make

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Speaker 1: it allowable for more moderate and centrist Democrats to you know,

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01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 1: get on the slate and run, something that hasn't been

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01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 1: able to happen for Democrats in this state since two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight. So it opened up the possibility that

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01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:25,599
Speaker 1: some Democrats could win in some state legislative state or

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01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 1: congressional seats and you know, maybe have an impact in

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01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 1: where the majority is in either of those bodies. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He made some controversial mistake or uh, controversial opinions last week.

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01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where they were because it was within

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01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 1: an interview with the Philadelphia Enquirer and show the the

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01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:55,160
Speaker 1: Democratic Governor Tom Wolffe asked him to leave. And now

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01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:59,679
Speaker 1: they without a state party chairman until June. We're speaking

1697
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:03,360
Speaker 1: of Nazito. She is a political analyist and columnists with

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Speaker 1: Washington Examiner national political reporter Selena tell me about your piece,

1699
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 1: Rise of the Rush Belt Democrats. So that was my

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01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:17,879
Speaker 1: interview with UH Congressman Tim Ryan. Jim Ryan. If you remember,

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01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 1: in two thousand and sixteen, right after the Democrats lost

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01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:25,720
Speaker 1: not only the presidency but lost more seats in the

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01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: House and the majority their minority became even smaller, UH

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01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 1: challenge Nancy Pelosi to UH for her minority leader's seat. Now,

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01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 1: Ryan has for the most part been a back venture

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01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 1: UH and and so his quest was chaotic at best.

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01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:48,559
Speaker 1: He didn't win, but he did give her a run

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01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 1: for the money. And what he did do was give

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01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 1: a more forceful voice for moderate Democrats that has been

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01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 1: allowed again since about two thousand and eight, two thousand

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Speaker 1: and nine. He has now been asked to go to

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire and more than any other Democrat considering running

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01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 1: for Democrats for president in two thousand and twenty. So

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01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 1: it's interesting to see a more moderate UH politician getting

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01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 1: a voice in in a sort of upper echelon of

1716
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 1: the Democratic grassroots activism than you have seen a sense

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01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 1: about since so, my goodness, since the time Al Gore

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01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 1: ran in two thousand, Selena, is that part of the

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01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 1: Democrat strategy to try to win, to get some pickups

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01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:42,679
Speaker 1: in the mid terms, they're gonna return to the old

1721
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:48,599
Speaker 1: blue dog Democrat, gun toton Democrat playbook. We'll see everybody

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01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 1: talks about that, But honest to goodness, it's there's sort

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01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 1: of no self awareness among the Democrats. As I watched

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01:41:56,920 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi today give a six our were she called

1725
01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 1: it a filibuster, and what the House doesn't do a filibuster,

1726
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 1: but her six hour speech on the House floor, and

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01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:11,280
Speaker 1: I said, and I thought, you know, this does not

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01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 1: help swing state Democrat candidates. Yeah, even if they wanted

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01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,479
Speaker 1: to return to that old playbook, it seems to me

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01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 1: like being a gun total Bible loving Southern Democrat or

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01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:27,639
Speaker 1: you know whatever, brust belt Democrat. Uh, That to me

1732
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 1: is is tough to do when you're also advocating for

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01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:33,759
Speaker 1: legal alien rights all the time and transgender bathroom issues.

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01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:35,680
Speaker 1: So I think that they're gonna have a tough I

1735
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 1: think the national Democrat Party is gonna have a tough

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01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 1: sell with that. But we'll see what happens. Selena, where's

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01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 1: people go for? Where's your website? We gotta go in

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01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 1: a second. Oh, Selina Zito F A L E N

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Speaker 1: A S D I T O. That has everything that

1740
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:49,520
Speaker 1: I write for the Examiner in the New York pust fantastic.

1741
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 1: Check it out at Selena Zito dot com. Selena, thank

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01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:53,600
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. We appreciate and have

1743
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:57,599
Speaker 1: a great one. Thanks you too. Alright, team, we're gonna

1744
01:42:57,640 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 1: do some roll call on the flip side of this

1745
01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 1: BA we get to hear from all of you. Will

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01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:05,599
Speaker 1: be right back. Centator John Hallman here. Um, the president

1747
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 1: apparently I would like to throw himself a parade, military parade,

1748
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 1: um troops and tanks and all that kind of stuff. Uh.

1749
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 1: And there's some planning now underwear or at least states

1750
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:18,599
Speaker 1: are being considered. What say you? I say that it's

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01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:23,040
Speaker 1: a fantastic waste of money to amuse the president. I

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01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 1: don't think a show of military might have reminds you

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01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:31,520
Speaker 1: of what the Soviets do and what the Chinese do. Uh.

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01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 1: And we need to honor our men and women in uniform,

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01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 1: and but I think we ought to do so in

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01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 1: a way that does not necessarily appear bellicoasts are threatening

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01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,720
Speaker 1: to the rest of the world. We want to be peacemakers,

1758
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 1: not warmakers. It also uh can be perceived as jinguists

1759
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 1: in some respects uh, saber rattling in some respects. There

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01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: you have a bunch of Democrats who, no surprise, all

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01:43:59,880 --> 01:44:02,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden, are concerned about government spending. Oh my gosh,

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01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:06,719
Speaker 1: a parade. And this is one of the first times

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Speaker 1: I think I've ever heard Democrats in elected office argue

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01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 1: against any parade that I'm familiar with. I mean, we

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01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:15,599
Speaker 1: got we got parades going on for everything these days, folks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I live in New York City, and let

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Speaker 1: me tell you, it's you know, uh, this week it's

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Speaker 1: the Army you know, not really, but you know, it's

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Speaker 1: the Armenian Parade. And next week it's the Bulgarian Parade,

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01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:28,720
Speaker 1: and next week it's the Bolivian Parade, and next week

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01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:32,679
Speaker 1: it's you know, the Southern County Kerry of Ireland Parade.

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Speaker 1: And it's like just parade after parade, parades all the time.

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Speaker 1: All right, Devon's having parades. I will tell you, as

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01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:43,920
Speaker 1: a general rule, I'm kind of anti parade. This will

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01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:47,440
Speaker 1: not surprise any of you. I think that parades are overrated.

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01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 1: Now I'm not anti them as that I begrudge anyone

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Speaker 1: who likes them or thinks that they should all end

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01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 1: or something. I just find the parades or it's like,

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01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's loud, the floats. You're like, Okay, I

1780
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 1: gotta wait a few more minutes. It's gonna be another.

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01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a you know, another bunch of are

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Speaker 1: I I can hear some drums. Let's give you a

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01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 1: few minutes. You know they're gonna they're walking, they're coming.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just not the most exciting spectator spectator

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Speaker 1: sport I've every Yeah, I know I'm a hater right now.

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01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah you agree. Oh you're with me all right,

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Speaker 1: Producer Mike is giving me the thumbs down on parades,

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01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:22,599
Speaker 1: the thumbs up on parades or not. You know, look,

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01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 1: sports teams have parades. Although your Eagles fans had their

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01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:30,599
Speaker 1: own parade by friend, I saw that. But yeah, you know, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a parade. You wanna have a pray to

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Speaker 1: a parade. Here's the thing, though, the one time when

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I like, I think that

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01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 1: this is important and you need to show up. Is

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01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 1: like Veterans Day, you Veterans Day parade, Memorial Day parade,

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01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:49,879
Speaker 1: those are parades that matter. Right, So anything that involves

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01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 1: respect for the armed forces in the military, I think

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01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:57,799
Speaker 1: goes into a different category of parade. And this notion

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01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 1: that Democrats have that it's so crazy z that we

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01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:04,960
Speaker 1: would take some time to celebrate. You notice none of

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01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 1: these people like, what's the Women's March about? What the

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01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 1: heck are they complaining about? Right? I mean, and by

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01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 1: the way, you want to you want to get into

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01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:12,639
Speaker 1: the costs of some of these things that the Women's

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01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 1: march in terms of oh, that's right, city services, over time,

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Speaker 1: clean up to clean up for some of the parades.

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01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 1: In New York City, it looks like a hurricane slash,

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01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 1: tornado slash, you know, bombing raid went through downtown Manhattan.

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01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy what happens after these parades. So

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01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:37,400
Speaker 1: it is very expensive, uh, in a city budgetary sense,

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01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean, in a national budget having a parade, I

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01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:41,280
Speaker 1: think it's pretty minor. But the point is there's cross

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01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:44,680
Speaker 1: associated with all this stuff. But we're gonna get We're

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01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:46,400
Speaker 1: gonna get cheap. All of a sudden, we're gonna want

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01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 1: to pen uh, pinch pennies, pinch pennies. Uh, we're gonna

1816
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 1: want to pinch pennies when it comes to honor in

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Speaker 1: the military. Let's just take a little step back here

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01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 1: for a second. Uh. And and we're gonna start saying

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01:46:57,520 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 1: it's jingoistic. You know, we're not North Korea, Dick Durbin.

1820
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:03,639
Speaker 1: We're not saying that, Hey, look at these big missiles,

1821
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna fire them at you. I mean, that's not

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Speaker 1: the point. It's just for us to celebrate our own military.

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Speaker 1: And I would don't. We've got a few million active

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Speaker 1: duty and recently uh recently separated from the service veterans

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01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 1: who I fought wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, deployed all over

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Speaker 1: the world. They defeated the Taliban, they defeated Saddam Hussein,

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01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 1: ousted him from power, defeated the Al Qaeda in Iraq insurgency,

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01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 1: handed Iraq back over to the Iraqis. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm just going off the top of my head. By

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01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:37,639
Speaker 1: the way, I'm not trying to forget or leave out anything,

1831
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:43,759
Speaker 1: but has they've done a tremendous amount of good work

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Speaker 1: for the world, and we all owe them, as the

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01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 1: American people a debt of gratitude will never be able

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01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 1: to pay. And so if we have a prey, why

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01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 1: why is that? This reminds me of when Democrats right

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01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:57,400
Speaker 1: after Not eleven we're kind of like, man, I don't

1837
01:47:57,400 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 1: know about flags, you know, all the flag waving maybe,

1838
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 1: and everyone was like, I'm sorry, what's that. You got

1839
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 1: a problem with the American flag? Now elected officials and

1840
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 1: media pundits, because that's weird now all of a sudden,

1841
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 1: because Trump is for a military parade, there against it.

1842
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 1: So maybe I should give them the benefit of the

1843
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 1: doubt and assume here that what's really at work is

1844
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 1: just their Trump derangement syndrome and that they don't have

1845
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:24,679
Speaker 1: a problem with a parade for the military as a concept.

1846
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 1: They're just pretending to because they hate Trump so much.

1847
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 1: I just hate Trump. They just get so upset about

1848
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:37,479
Speaker 1: all of this. But I recall, you know, after World

1849
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 1: War Two, for example, some really timeless and inspiring photos

1850
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 1: of our our boys coming back from overseas, so to speak,

1851
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 1: are men and women in uniform coming back to the States,

1852
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:52,640
Speaker 1: ticker tape parade, the whole thing. What's what's wrong with that.

1853
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 1: I would need some of these Democrats to explain. Oh, yeah,

1854
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 1: they're worried about the budget, right, sure, that's what it's about.

1855
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the biggest crock of nonsense. But they're

1856
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:06,280
Speaker 1: opposed to the optics of this. They think that the

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01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 1: perception of a parade would somehow what antagonized North Korea.

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01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 1: Do we care about antagonizing North Korea? I think I

1859
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 1: think a little more antagonism against North Korea is probably

1860
01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 1: a good thing. But that's you know, the assamble. And

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01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 1: by the way, anyone who says that we should uh

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01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 1: we are not or or we are overestimating the furer

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01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:31,680
Speaker 1: and opposition to this doesn't pay attention to what's going

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01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 1: on in the world around them. You've got a guy

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01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 1: named Arne men Coni who is a former a former

1866
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 1: US Senate candidate. I have a feeling he probably got

1867
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 1: a grand total of uh, you know, five votes. But

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01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 1: he says, we quote, we already have thirteen people who

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01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 1: have signed up to lay down in front of the tanks.

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01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:58,280
Speaker 1: If Trump brings out a military parade. This is not

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01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 1: a military authoritarian state, we will you join us. Hashtag

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01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 1: Trump parade. These people think that this is like Tianamen Square,

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01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 1: you know that they're standing up the Trump, the dictator.

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01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:12,599
Speaker 1: It's like, no, this would be U. S. Military. You know,

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01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 1: it would be a parade where we're celebrating the military

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01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 1: and thank you very much. This should be a big

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01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 1: thank you for your service day. Right, So what's what's

1878
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:24,760
Speaker 1: the issue? Isn't it so interesting Democrats? You know, I

1879
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 1: know they all say things like, oh, we support the troops.

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01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 1: You know, that's bipartisan. A lot of Democrats they got

1881
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 1: some questions about the troops. To be honest with you,

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01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 1: a lot of Democrats in places they don't talk about

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Speaker 1: at parties, they wonder, you know, why didn't they have

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Speaker 1: the I'm talking about Democrat elected politicians now, but they wonder,

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Speaker 1: you know, they didn't have the the fortitude to do it.

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Speaker 1: And look, I know there are other Democrats who are

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Speaker 1: in Congress who served honorably and are great and all

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Speaker 1: that too. But if you're looking for disdain for the

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Speaker 1: military and political circles, even it might be slightly closeted disdain,

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01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:02,639
Speaker 1: but you're looking for it's always among Democrats. You never

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Speaker 1: find Republicans that are like, yeah, military, I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: iffy on it. There are some Democrats that are like, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little iffy on the whole U. S. Military thing.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's just the way it is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's the way that their ideology lines up on a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of things, um not, not the least of

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Speaker 1: which is that we are the cause of problems in

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Speaker 1: the world. Right, that's a classic leftist Democrat talking point,

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Speaker 1: that we cause, that our military causes problems all over

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Speaker 1: the world. And the Gnome Chomsky view, if you will,

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01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 1: on the military, that's a Democrat issue, that's not a

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Speaker 1: Republican one. So like, I don't like parades, but I'd

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01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 1: be down for a parade for a military And I

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Speaker 1: think that Trump's onto onto something here, if nothing else.

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Speaker 1: Once again, he manages to expose that Democrats just always

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01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 1: seem to have a little bit of a well Trump

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01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:53,639
Speaker 1: de arrangement syndrome clouds their judgment on everything. But also

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01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:56,920
Speaker 1: when it comes to military, it's like, why aren't you

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Speaker 1: guys on board for this a little bit sooner? A

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Speaker 1: little strange, isn't it. I want to tell you about

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Speaker 1: a Trump voter and a March for Women person that

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Speaker 1: they had quite they had quite a little a little

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Speaker 1: sit down. I'm gonna not sit down, but an interaction.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna come up. You've got to hear this.

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Speaker 1: It is illuminating about the way that coastal blue Democrat

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Speaker 1: voters view Trump. Trump is um and people who vote

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Speaker 1: for either of those things. Um, I think we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have some fun with it. So what happens when when

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Speaker 1: somebody from the Women's March is having car trouble and

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Speaker 1: is in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the wilds of Virginia confronted with that always ah, always

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Speaker 1: terrifying situation of a Trump voter who comes to her

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Speaker 1: aid on the side of the highway. Oh, we will

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Speaker 1: discuss that and much more. My friend's coming up in

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Speaker 1: the next hour. Stay with me.