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Speaker 1: talking little Steelers. Hopefully we'll get a player to come

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Speaker 1: over and talk to us. But we're in a little

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna quite as convenient.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to promise that because well, they're tired

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Speaker 1: from where we are sitting at here. But Matt, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about a few of the things that

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Speaker 1: happened over the weekend here In some we did get

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk about. The First one is the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals releasing DeAndre Hopkins taking a twenty two point six

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Speaker 2: Couple things I take away from that, And again I

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Speaker 2: don't know DeAndre Hopkins, but I get the impression new organization. Basically,

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Speaker 1: I think they realize they're going to be really bad

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Speaker 2: At that point if you if you've one win or

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's a move they need to make.

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Speaker 2: Are the Bills and Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: I think they're The Chiefs have six hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: And I think the Bills next year are deep in

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Speaker 1: How about this. The Buccaneers have the fewest I know,

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Speaker 2: division by division and looked at everyone's cap space for

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Speaker 2: this year and next year, because a lot of it

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Speaker 2: ties in at this stage of the season. The Bucks

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Speaker 1: Right, They're still they're still paying money.

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Speaker 2: They're kind of in the Arizona Yeah, you know, mold

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Speaker 2: where we're gonna take our lumps neck this year and

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Speaker 2: then maybe do a little spending in the offseason. There

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Speaker 2: aren't many names there that make a lot of sense

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Speaker 2: for Hopkins though, especially if he's going to be picky.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you wouldn't try to pick and choose.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Patriots they had some Bucks.

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Speaker 1: But he wants he wants to go to a team

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Speaker 2: back to this, and I don't mean to kill the dude,

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Speaker 2: So he's not gonna want to go there. And that's

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Speaker 2: why would I bring him in anyway? You know, I

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Speaker 2: want to play the young dudes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, you know, so you want to play your

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Speaker 1: going to be happy coming in and being a number three.

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Speaker 1: Probably not. He's been an alpha male.

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Speaker 2: You know, his entire career, right, I mean I could

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Speaker 2: mean he'd probably be the one in Kansas City, at

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Speaker 2: least on paper. The receivers are pretty Kelsey.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I you know, he mentioned Baltimore on

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Speaker 1: They're gonna I mean they're using their checks. You know,

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Speaker 1: Don't think you are. Like again, everybody would have to

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Speaker 2: This is only for media.

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Speaker 1: I said, I am media.

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Speaker 1: I just want to I just want to stop in

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Speaker 1: and say a load to Rodney. I coached him when

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Speaker 1: he was a kid. Uh, And the guy let me in.

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Speaker 1: But then as I'm standing here talking to Rodney, all

439
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm surrounded by like four people and

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Speaker 1: I look up and they're like, we need to see

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Speaker 1: your credential again, like he's bad guy. And now Dawn's

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Speaker 1: on me that like do they think I'm in here

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Speaker 1: trying to you know.

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Speaker 2: Grab a playbook or something?

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Speaker 1: Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right? Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean the game is over?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. But and so I I kind of like

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Speaker 2: this out of that. Yeah, you don't want to I

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Speaker 2: mean your tag aside, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Bring this up because there was a story I read

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Speaker 1: I can't remember where I read it. This is fifteen

453
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Speaker 1: years ago. It's about the start of the AFL, and

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Speaker 1: and the first couple of years of the a f L.

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Speaker 1: The Broncos and Raiders were I think it was a Raider,

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Speaker 1: might have been the Chargers. No, he's Chargers. So the

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Speaker 1: Broncos and the Raiders. Broncos and the Chargers were, of course.

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Speaker 1: So at one point, I guess one of the Broncos

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Speaker 1: coaches is walking through the locker room, looks up and

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Speaker 1: sees Al Davis, who is a coach for the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: interviewing one of his players and asking him all these

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Speaker 1: questions about so when you guys do this, what do you?

463
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Speaker 1: What do you? And he sees it, he recognizes it's

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Speaker 1: ow and you said, oh, you're not allowed to get

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Speaker 1: the hell out of here, and throws him out of

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Speaker 1: the locker room.

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Speaker 2: And this is before Al Davis is Al Davis.

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Speaker 1: This is before he bought ownership in the in the

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. This was when he was still an assistant coach.

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Speaker 1: He's a football guy, so stuff, you know, that stuff

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Speaker 1: happened back in the day.

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Speaker 2: So that's why, and that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: It dawned me so then I called the the Cults

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Speaker 1: PR guy called the Steelers PR guy said, hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: here's what happened. I was not in there anything the farious.

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Speaker 1: But if you hear something, they took a picture of

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Speaker 1: my credential, the whole deal. And I'm like, I was

478
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Speaker 1: not doing anything the farious. I was just in there

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Speaker 1: talking to a kid that I've known since he was

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Speaker 1: eight years old. Yeah, right right.

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Speaker 2: I bet if it was the other way around, you'd

482
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Speaker 2: expect the Steelers to call the Colts and be like,

483
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Speaker 2: who was this stude in my locker room? Right? You

484
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Speaker 2: know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: But I had already okayed it with the Colts PR guy.

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Speaker 1: And think the guy did the security guy, you know

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Speaker 1: the door of the locker room, he didn't.

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Speaker 2: Know, right, So, And that's I'm sure for you is

489
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Speaker 2: sort of a one off situation. You're not going to

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Speaker 2: go in the opposing the locker room off and d No.

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Speaker 1: I never even when I was a reporter, I rarely

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Speaker 1: ever did because I covered.

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Speaker 2: The scaleless, right yeah, And you're putting the microphone in

494
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Speaker 2: Maka's face or whatever instead.

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Speaker 1: Of that, I'm busy doing that as opposed to you know,

496
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Speaker 1: going into the you know Rams Lockers. Yeah, whoever, so anyways,

497
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Speaker 1: but it's an interesting situation there with Garoppolo and Brady

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Speaker 1: Brady and DeAndre Hopkins. But we are due for a break.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to The Drive, a special edition of The Drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy. We will

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Speaker 1: be back with more live from the upmc rooney Sports

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Speaker 1: Complex here on the South Side right after this. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to this special edition of the Drive. You're on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine to seventy. We are

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Speaker 1: live from the upmc rooney Sports Complex when the Steelers

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Speaker 1: are Anothery're midway through there, Yeah, second week of OTA

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Speaker 1: practices here at the Rubeney Sports Complex. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale, Lolley. You're listening again to the this

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Speaker 1: special edition of the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: We are the tag team for the Drive. We are

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Speaker 1: on us year round, year round, four to six typically

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Speaker 1: three days a week this time of year, but during

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Speaker 1: the season five five days a week on the Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio. Let people know we talk. We talked Steelers,

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Speaker 1: but we talked to.

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Speaker 2: The league as a whole as well quite a bit

518
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Speaker 2: some fantasy, tons of draft all that kind of stuff

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Speaker 2: that kind of Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So one of the things I did want to talk

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Speaker 1: about this week, Matt was the Bill Barmwell article. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a big two parter from the last week, and

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Speaker 1: the big two part was a lot of ground to

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Speaker 1: cover here. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So he ranked, he writes some monsters.

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Speaker 1: He does work. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, ranking the best and

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Speaker 1: worst twenty twenty three NFL offseasons, which teams improved and

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Speaker 1: which teams did not.

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Speaker 2: So I glanced at it, and you mentioned a couple

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Speaker 2: of teams. It sounds like he's taking a very big

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Speaker 2: picture approach. Y. You know, it's not just like they

532
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Speaker 2: improved it, right guard, so they go from twelve to ten,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, it sounds like it's a real

534
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Speaker 2: big picture. You know, like we talked about last segment

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Speaker 2: where the Cardinals are is an organization, you know, things

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Speaker 2: like that there. You know, maybe it doesn't make you

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Speaker 2: better on the field, but maybe there's some long term

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Speaker 2: ramifications that are useful, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this thing is a monstrosity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know.

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Speaker 1: So at thirty two, he has the Tennessee Titans as

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Speaker 1: the team that did the least amount of upgrading. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't.

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Speaker 2: I think it's your vegetable time. So it's sort of

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Speaker 2: the Titan Yeah, and there's not much to build around.

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Speaker 2: I mean, could Tannehill end up in Atlanta or something

547
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Speaker 2: like that, Could Derreck Henry end up in Buffalo or

548
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Speaker 2: something like that, or you know, I think it's going

549
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Speaker 2: to be man start to bring in some of your

550
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Speaker 2: own dudes and create a culture. But it's they're probably

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Speaker 2: a year away from a year away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at thirty one are well the Rams, and I

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Speaker 1: believe it or not, we just had Aaron Donald was

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Speaker 1: working out here in front of me.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's top secret or whatever, but

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Speaker 2: I still would want to block him. Yeah, it's been bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, we talk a lot of fantasy here, and

558
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Speaker 2: I've warmed up to the fact that the Rams offense

559
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Speaker 2: might be pretty good still, you know, depending on Stafford's health.

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Speaker 2: You know, you get Cup back, and you drafted a

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Speaker 2: veal Cooper Cup is Cooper Cup's older than people think

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Speaker 2: he is. He can't in the league like twenty five

563
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Speaker 2: or twenty four. But boy, their defense, besides the great

564
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Speaker 2: Anon Donald is really questionable, and they don't have a

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Speaker 2: lot of early picks to build around, which is the

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Speaker 2: way they're design But it's going to be a long year,

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at some point, when you keep saying f those picks,

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Speaker 1: it becomes an issue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they have a bunch of third and fourth

571
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Speaker 2: round guys, but not a lot of hits on those

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Speaker 2: outside of cup Yeah and gone are you know Ramsey

573
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Speaker 2: by the way too, and you know Alan Robinson.

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Speaker 1: You know, right at thirty are the Raiders?

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Speaker 2: I tend to agree.

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Speaker 1: I think they took a step backwards a quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they So we talked about we talked about the situation Hubris.

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Speaker 2: That drives me crazy. You got to just bring in

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Speaker 2: old Patriots, you know.

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Speaker 1: So you get rid of Derek Carr and you replace

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Speaker 1: him with Jimmy Garoppolo. I don't know on what planet

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Speaker 1: that's an upgrade.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you could argue I think they're on the

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Speaker 2: same tier, but one of them's at the top of

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Speaker 2: the tier and ones at the bottom of.

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Speaker 1: The fighter and one of them is oft injured. Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo has played one full season of games in his career.

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Speaker 2: Like when they moved on from Car and maybe just

589
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Speaker 2: didn't follow their way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no matter what you say about Car, Carr is

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Speaker 1: always out there.

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Speaker 2: He's a good player. Yeah, he's a good player.

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Speaker 1: But he's always available too.

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Speaker 2: He's available to right. I mean like he made the

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Speaker 2: Saints better. Yeah, I mean like they should get bonus

596
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Speaker 2: points from going Dalton to Car. But I thought, and

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Speaker 2: again maybe just didn't work out. This way is if

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Speaker 2: Jimmy is there with Anthony Richardson Levis blah blah blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah, somebody young, there's no one, there's no plan B.

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Speaker 2: There's no future on the roster today. I mean, everyone

601
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Speaker 2: says Jimmy's a great leader and everyone loves them blah

602
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Speaker 2: blah blah. Not the Car isn't. But you took a

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Speaker 2: step back at quarterback almost to me just because they're

604
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Speaker 2: Patriots connections, you know, like why are we doing this?

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Speaker 2: And real quick with the Raiders, I think where the

606
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Speaker 2: mistake was made was last off seasons. Yeah, I mean

607
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Speaker 2: think about that division one year ago. Oh my god,

608
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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's going to the Broncos and Herbert and Mahomes

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Speaker 2: and you know that's the best division in football, Like

610
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Speaker 2: people are talking about the East, and I think the

611
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Speaker 2: Raiders had to come to Jesus moment and said, Okay,

612
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Speaker 2: are we going pushing our chips in and going to

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Speaker 2: try to compete with.

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Speaker 1: Them stuck into the playoffs the year we're a playoff.

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Speaker 2: Team or a playoff team, Let's trade for Adams where

616
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Speaker 2: the move was a year ago. Let's not make those moves.

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Speaker 2: Maybe trade car then and rebuild for today or tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: And now they're really paying for it at I think

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Speaker 2: they might be the worst team in the FC at

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Speaker 2: twenty nine one Giants. I don't know if that's a

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Speaker 2: bad offseason. They got some pass catchers, yeah, but I

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Speaker 2: mean the Jones Barkley money stuff is Harry So.

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Speaker 1: You got Isaiah Hodgkins, Slayton Bellinger return, You brought back

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Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd.

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Speaker 2: Who Yeah, but he doesn't cost he doesn't play football, No,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't. He signed Paris Campbell another slot, who's a

627
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Speaker 2: guy who's always hurt away. The Waller trade I think

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Speaker 2: is noteworthy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean they put themselves in a buying last offseason too,

631
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Speaker 2: because they didn't pick up Jones this fifty year, which

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have at the time.

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Speaker 1: Either. No, I wouldn't have either, but now you had

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Speaker 1: to pay that sticky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now you're paying Daniel Jones like he's Patrick mahomes light.

637
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And Barkley still hasn't signed his franchise tag and

638
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: he's not thrilled about it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: So I'd be shocked if they win as many games

641
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Speaker 2: as they did last year.

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Speaker 1: I would their schedules much much harder than it was

643
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Speaker 1: last year. At twenty eight are the Lions?

644
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Speaker 2: Wow? Everyone's praising the Lions off season? Yeah, I wonder

645
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Speaker 2: if this is I mean.

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Speaker 1: I think he's looking at what as he says here,

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Speaker 1: they spent draft capital and money other than at cornerback

648
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Speaker 1: on positions that you're going to spend money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean Barnwell's background is football siders, analytics,

650
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Speaker 2: and and I'm with him on this. You had all

651
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Speaker 2: kinds of unbelievable resources and you use it on a

652
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Speaker 2: running back, off the ball, linebacker Nickel. Although we love Branch,

653
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Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't matter who the players are, and

654
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Speaker 2: then a quarterback that's not going to play this year,

655
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: and then a nose. Those are all their picks on

656
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: Day one and two, and that might make you better

657
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: today and everyone will Sayilliamson, you're wrong. This was a

658
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: Gibbs was an offensive Player of the Year and Campbell

659
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: was a defensive Rookie of the Year. But where it

660
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: kills you is two years from now when you have

661
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: to sign Penn a soul, you know, and you don't

662
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: have any tackles, you know, like or Hutchinson's up.

663
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: Two first round draft picks. Uh, and you then you

664
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: got to pick up the fifty year.

665
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: Option on both or neither or one and it gets

666
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: expensive too, yea, you know, fifth year option is not

667
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: a great deal anymore.

668
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: It is really right at twenty seven the Buccaneers, Yeah,

669
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: they're a master.

670
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: They're just a mess.

671
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

672
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: I mean they have five or six really good players, Godwin.

673
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: They obviously they're paying them a lot of money.

674
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they didn't quite just dump them all and

675
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: totally scrap it. I think they're hoping this is a

676
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: one year step back and then you luck earn yourself

677
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: a better quarterback and go from there. But they're not

678
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: very good.

679
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: No, No. Twenty six of the Falcons, Huh.

680
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I bet his art argument is you extended

681
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: a guard, you gave huge money to a safety, You

682
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: know you drafted a running back in round one. I mean,

683
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: they're all the cheap. It's the same argument basically as

684
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: the Lion.

685
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: Well, and you're going into the season with Desmond Ritter

686
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: as your quarterback and you know, right right, yeah, is

687
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: he a long term solution? Who knows?

688
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: Right?

689
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: At twenty five are the Saints? The Saints should be

690
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: higher on here, given the fact that they really upgraded

691
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback.

692
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. And I don't think they

693
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: got really beaten up anywhere else, you know, the more

694
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: I think about it, I mean, they're pretty much running

695
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: it back as they usually do, and they might be

696
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: the best team at the division. It's a terrible division,

697
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: a terrible division. Nobody won, you know, nobody was over

698
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: five hundred.

699
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: Last year at twenty four of the Colts s.

700
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm a Richardson fan. I think the new coaching staff

701
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: carries some weight. I don't know that I would have

702
00:30:55,040 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: moved on from Reich, but it's better than the Saturday fiasco. Well,

703
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: the more I think about it, they didn't they didn't

704
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: do anything.

705
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: They didn't fix the offensive line.

706
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: No, I mean there was a couple teams, the Ravens,

707
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: the Colts, the Packers that just sat on their hands

708
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: for like the first two months of the agency.

709
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: And they had caps. They've always have cap station. They

710
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: never spend it.

711
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: I mean the reason obviously the Packers and Ravens were

712
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: different because they had a quarterback looming but was big,

713
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: big money where the Colts didn't. The only thing they

714
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: didn't like the first free agent month was sign Matt

715
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: Gay a kicker, you know what I mean? Like that

716
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: paid a.

717
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: Little strange, Yeah, ridiculous At twenty three are the Jets?

718
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: Wow? I bet people are fighting him on that.

719
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean he gave up a lot to go get

720
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers.

721
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and assuming he plays what seventy five percent of

722
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: the snaps or whatever, now, it's gonna be the next

723
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: first round picks. I mean that's I think it was

724
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: two this year and one next year. Yeah, you better hit.

725
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: The better hit. And if he does play seventy five

726
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: percent of the snaps and you somehow don't make the playoffs,

727
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: right right, h boy?

728
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: I mean you could be third in that division if

729
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: he played seventy five percent snaps easily. Yeah, you know,

730
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: I mean that's that's a rough or you know, seventh

731
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: or eighth seed in the AFC if even if he's

732
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: really good, nobody upgraded a quarterback more than they did, though, right,

733
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: I mean that was a miserable situation last year, no

734
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: no doubt. But back to like Russell Wilson and Denver,

735
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: sometimes teams think, even a quarterback, we're just one player away.

736
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: This isn't the NBA, see they So.

737
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: They did that. They made that move with Rogers, and

738
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: then they went out and signed a bunch of the

739
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: old Packers receivers and things of that nature.

740
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: That was bad business. Yeah, you can't do that, right,

741
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: Randall Cobb. You're giving money and you know you're gonna

742
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: play him over some of your young good guys, you know.

743
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, at twenty two or the Texans, I.

744
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: Mean, I don't know what to think of them, because

745
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: I think that for the first time in four years,

746
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: they're nearing a respectable organization.

747
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,239
Speaker 1: I mean, like they were really hideous. Yeah, he did

748
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: some really interesting stuff and it.

749
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: Wasn't just the Watson problem. I mean it started with

750
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: the Hopkins trade and then they'd bring in like thirty

751
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: bottom bottom tier free agents and that was their free

752
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: agent moves, you know. I mean, at least their offense

753
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: looks like it's something, and maybe they have a quarterback,

754
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: but I sure would have liked the had next year's

755
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: first round pick still in my pocket. Yeah, I mean

756
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: that's gonna sting.

757
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where they get the lower grades because they

758
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: traded the way next year's.

759
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: I mean, Will Anderson has to be like TJ. Watt

760
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: right to make that worth it.

761
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: Twenty one are the Ravens.

762
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: I guess you kept your quarterback and that's the story

763
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: of the That's what the story will be remembered. You

764
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: and I don't agree with the Odell contract.

765
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: I spend a lot of money on Nelson Aguilar and

766
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham.

767
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't get a lot out of the draft, but

768
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: you know they usually have a lot of picks and

769
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: it didn't get a lot out of the draft. Yeah,

770
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: I think that's about where they belong.

771
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. At twenty are the Vikings.

772
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: I think they're in trouble. I mean, I think their

773
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: offense could be fine, but Cousins is a free agent

774
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: after this year and there's nothing resembling a plan sign.

775
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: You'll probably just give him another again and they'll make

776
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: it make so much money. But their defense, I mean,

777
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: it was the most vanilla, non blitz heavy zone defense

778
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: in the whole league, and anyone's familiar with coach Flores

779
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: is the total opposite of that. And they just didn't

780
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: have the resources to give him the corners they need.

781
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: Their pass rushers are gone. Zadarius Smith there, you know,

782
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: like there's not a lot of recognizable names on that defense.

783
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: I saw some stats on Zadarius Smith that were kind

784
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: of shocking, actually good or bad? Bad? Really where he

785
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: had do you have ten sacks last year? But if

786
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: you look at the breakdown on it, he had most

787
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,959
Speaker 1: of those he had in the first half of the season.

788
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: He won two, three, three and a half. Uh, he

789
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: had eight and a half of his ten sacks came

790
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: in the first was that one, two, three, four, five,

791
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: six seven six games?

792
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: Wow, that's not great.

793
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: No, So the second half of the year he had

794
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: two sacks over the last ten games.

795
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 2: I wonder if he's getting to that point where he's

796
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: the justin Houston part time thirty.

797
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: Snap might be better, sir, being that guy at thirty

798
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: as opposed to being, you.

799
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: Know, the guy is a seventy snap game.

800
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: Yes, so everybody, you know, again, sometimes you trade just

801
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: for the name on the back of the jersey.

802
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: It's not the best move to make seventeen games, and yeah,

803
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: he's had some injuries too.

804
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see what the what the Browns got

805
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: out of that. They didn't give up much, No they didn't,

806
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: but he's a Caps face. But they are paying him

807
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: I think eleven million dollars this year. So more of

808
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: the same for the Brownies doing that. Now, I got

809
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: to get back to where I was before on this list,

810
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: and this thing is massive.

811
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I do think the Vikes are not nearly the

812
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: team people think they are. No, the offense will be

813
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: fine at nineteen.

814
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: Are the Browns? Actually?

815
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: I kind of like their offseason all in all. I mean,

816
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: they didn't add a ton because they just didn't have

817
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: a lot of resources.

818
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: Once again kicking the can down the road.

819
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: They are.

820
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't have any first run draftics. They

821
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: don't have a first round draft pick next year.

822
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: That's rough. I just thought their d line, not name

823
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett, was really bad last year and now it's good,

824
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: even though there was some overpaying to make it good.

825
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: But the rest of the defense, I'm not sure, especially

826
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: up the middle.

827
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: Well, if you look at it, they went out and

828
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: got two guys from that Vikings defense. And we could

829
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: say the same thing about the steel Steeers go to them,

830
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: they get to them as well. They went I got

831
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson asa Darius Smith. See I've paid an interest

832
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: and they paid a lot more money for Alvin Tomlinson.

833
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: And like they're paying those two guys thirty million dollars.

834
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: A year, right, right, right, And that might make it

835
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: fun of the Vikings defense. But if you look at

836
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: it through a half full lens that the Steelers took

837
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: two of them, I think you could look at it

838
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: like they didn't get as much either talent as they

839
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: should have because they were so vanell they were. Yeah,

840
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 2: they had good players and should have got more out

841
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: of them. And maybe the Browns agree.

842
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: At the same time. I mean, the pass rushers are

843
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: the pass rushers, yeah, and the Vikings had no pass rushing.

844
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: PROA had no pass rushers. Yeah.

845
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: At eighteen are the Seattle Seahawks.

846
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 2: Most people are higher. I'm a little hesitant.

847
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: He's, you know, Geno Smith on a big deal. Yeah,

848
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: like you're paying him money.

849
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: See, I would have loved Tendon Hooker to end up

850
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: there or something like that. Just because Gino's fine, but

851
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: Gino might be Jimmy, you know what I mean. I mean,

852
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 2: And if they're lucky, if they're lucky, if they're lucky,

853
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 2: had a really good year, had a good first half. Yeah,

854
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: and then it really dwindled. And you know, they had

855
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: two first round picks for two years in a row.

856
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: And I think everyone's praising last year's draft class and

857
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 2: assuming this one's gonna be every bit is good, which

858
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: I think is a bit of a leap of faith.

859
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: A little bit. Yeah. Bit, We're gonna take a break.

860
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: He has Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. We're going

861
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: over Bill barn Wells list of off season improvements and

862
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: teams in what order he ran them from ESPN. You're

863
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: listening to ESPN nine to seventy and Steelers Nation Radio.

864
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: We are live from the upmc rooney Sports Complex here

865
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: on the South Side. I'm Dale Lolly. We'll be back

866
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: with more right after this. Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly.

867
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Speaker 1: He has Matt Williamson. We are live from the upmc

868
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Speaker 1: rooney Sports Complex, where the Steelers are getting ready to

869
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: wrap up their practice for today here at their OTA

870
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: session's week two. We are live on ESPN nine seventy

871
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Speaker 1: and Steelers Nation Radio, and we're going over Bill Barnwell's

872
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: list here of the thirty two teams in the NFL

873
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: and how they did this offseason. He's stacking them up

874
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: on who had the best and who had the worst.

875
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, not an easy job.

876
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: We are down at number seventeen. That is the Jacksonville Jaguars.

877
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: Not a very eventful offseason for them, is in their.

878
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: Left tackle for the At some point here sixteen are

879
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots.

880
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: It's fine. I don't think they're noticeably better. They did

881
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 2: of the coordinator change.

882
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they brought it an offensive coordinator, which was probably

883
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: a good idea.

884
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably a year or two late.

885
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. At fifteen the Chargers, I like.

886
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: The Quinn Williams pick up. That's more about getting your

887
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 2: guys healthy. Bosas and J. C. Jackson's and those type

888
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: of Rashaun Slay.

889
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see if they get the deal done with

890
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert.

891
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, turns and I would imagine that that's just inevitable.

892
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: At fourteen, the Denver Broncos, I'm.

893
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: Gonna say yes on that. I think that's adding Peyton

894
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: goes a long way, shall see. I think there's some

895
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: overspending with Peyton the line, Yeah, line, and I don't

896
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 2: know that Peyton cast him a first round picked. Yeah,

897
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 2: I mean, but I think the building has changed dramatically.

898
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: At thirteen of the Bears, they did a lot. Nowhere

899
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: to go, nowhere to go it up, but they did

900
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 2: a lot.

901
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: At twelve are the Arizona Cardinals.

902
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if it's a worldwide culture, sweep everything

903
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: out of there.

904
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: Pick up. Yeah next year.

905
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all gonna talking about the Cardinals next year. Yeah,

906
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 2: you know.

907
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 1: At eleven are the forty nine.

908
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: Ers, Hard Graves awfully nice.

909
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, the offensive line is not that good.

910
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: Shocking that they they didn't even draft one. Yeah, I

911
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: mean they had a lot of picks, they weren't early picks,

912
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: but they didn't even draft in a lineman. It's okay, I.

913
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: Could be a little humo. Yeah. Yeah, we don't need to.

914
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: We don't need linemand right, I mean, at least have

915
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks to pick from.

916
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: Hopefully one of them is the guy. Yeah.

917
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: At ten are the Steelers.

918
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 2: I think they deserve to be top ten. Yeah, I

919
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: mean I probably would even have them higher to be.

920
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: He said the offensive line got better inside linebacker. They're

921
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: still churning, cycling through guys there. You know, we'll see

922
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: about that and then what's left to do working a

923
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: new deal with Alex Highsmith.

924
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, I mean these aren't huge hurdles to

925
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: get over. That's not a Lamar deal, you know.

926
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Speaker 1: At nine are the Carolina Panthers if they got their quarterback.

927
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: Yes, I just have a lot of doubt if that

928
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: would have been the quarterback I went all in on

929
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: just because of its size.

930
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. At eight are the Bills. I don't know if

931
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: I could put the Bills ahead of some of these

932
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: other teams.

933
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, where did they get better? I mean, I like

934
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: the Kincaid pick. I'm not sure I can go there. Yeah,

935
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: I mean even lost Tremaine Edmunds. Yeah, you know, it's fine,

936
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 2: but I don't think they're better. At seven are the Chiefs.

937
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: Did the Chiefs have a good offseason? I wouldn't say so.

938
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: And I don't think even losing Juju matters much. But

939
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: there's a lot of questions a receiver.

940
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Juwan Taylor, a tackle, Orlando Brown's it's a wash.

941
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the old line still looks really good. Defense

942
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: has some questions.

943
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. At six are the Bengals.

944
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: They got Orlando Brown. Okay, but that's about it. You

945
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 2: mentioned off the air they lost both safeties. I mean

946
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: that's something. Not a lot of change though, No, not

947
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 2: a lot of change.

948
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he didn't that mean you had a

949
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: good offseason if you didn't change much.

950
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: Now it seems that way with Bill's Chiefs, Bengals, I

951
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: guin and even Jaggs. I meantimes that the division winners

952
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: in the AFC, you gave good grades for not doing much.

953
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: This next one, I have to completely disagree with the

954
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. Yeah, now they got a lot for

955
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Good for them, that's right, But they are

956
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: not a better team, no right now than they were.

957
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: I just think that's even disputable. Maybe the organization's in

958
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: a better place for what's next, but I don't know

959
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: that it's addition by subtraction getting ready to Rogers. Yeah,

960
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: I don't know about that at all. At four are

961
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles. They didnt get hit as hard as

962
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: everyone thought they would. I mean, they had a lot

963
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: of prominent free agents. We knew the rosters really strong

964
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: locked up hurts, I guess I'll put them in near

965
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: the top. I like their draft.

966
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

967
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: At two are the Dallas Cowboys added two veterans via trade.

968
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, three I should say, okay, sticking around, got

969
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: out of Zeke's contract. It's a pretty solid roster. Yeah,

970
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: they had a great offseason. I didn't like their draft,

971
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, No, I.

972
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: Didn't much care for it either.

973
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

974
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: At two the Miami Dolphins aggressive. They were aggressive. I

975
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: don't know that they're going to love the trade, you know.

976
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: About the Ramsey stuff or Yeah, I don't know if

977
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: that's gonna work out for him. I don't know. My

978
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,959
Speaker 2: favorite thing they did is probably wouldn't know one's thinking about.

979
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: Is they hired Vic Vangio. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like,

980
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: not that they've been coordinated poorly on that side of

981
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 2: the ball, but their head coach is a total offensive

982
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: minded guy. If he's smart enough to say, hey, Vic,

983
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: you just deal with the D and I'll deal with

984
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: the O, they'll be competitive.

985
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're paying your two cornerbacks and awful a lot

986
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: of money offul lot of money, and you downgraded, in

987
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: my opinion, a backup quarterback behind.

988
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 2: A guy who is that's your Yeah, massively with them.

989
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: I mean Tua was talking about retirement. Yeah, Like he

990
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: announced in the offseason that he was going to come

991
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: back and play again because he was considered retirement. I

992
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: want a better plan than Mike White. I do too.

993
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: And they also got very little out of the draft,

994
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 2: which that you knew, kew it was gonna be right

995
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: picks for Chobb and those guys.

996
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: The number one off season, according to Bill Barnwell, was

997
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: by the Washington Commanders. I assume it's for only one reason,

998
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: one reason, and one reason only.

999
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: Ding Dong the Witch is dead.

1000
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, Daniel Snyder is gone. Right,

1001
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 1: they're winning percentage into Daniel Snyder era, oh, nineteen ninety

1002
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: nine through twenty twenty three, So you're talking twenty four

1003
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: season a long time, almost twenty four years, forty three percent.

1004
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 2: Wow, two playoff wins, two playoff wins.

1005
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: For a franchise that from nineteen seventy three through nineteen

1006
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: ninety eight one fifty eight percent of its game had

1007
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 1: sixteen playoff wins, three super Bowl wins, two League MVP.

1008
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: Like, and think they did to their fan base. You

1009
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: know the kids that are my son's sixteen likes the Steelers.

1010
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: You know, the sixteen year old in Washington probably doesn't

1011
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 2: care at all about the company.

1012
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: He has never seen that, never seen them be really good.

1013
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: Right, because they were awesome. I mean, whether you root

1014
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: it for him or not, that was an awesome fan base,

1015
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: you know, the Joe Gibsey or all that stuff. And

1016
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: it's a storied franchise and they rubined it.

1017
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: They burn it down, right, burn it down. Anyways, that's

1018
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: the Bill Barmwell list from ESPN. Steelers coming in tenth

1019
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: on that list and off seasons and well number two

1020
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: in the AFC North again debatable. Yeah, the Bengals were.

1021
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: I thought Steelers approved more than any other team.

1022
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: Then I thought so as well. But we're gonna take

1023
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Speaker 1: a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolley.

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