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Speaker 1: Or you're gonna make Ocho crime Ojo.

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Speaker 2: While we'll wait, there's some people that have some words

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Speaker 2: for you, for me. Chris Carter had some words for

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Speaker 2: Ojo last week. He said there were points, oh yep,

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Speaker 2: he said, there were points in Chad's career that you

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Speaker 2: had to go out there and tell him what to

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Speaker 2: do because he couldn't get over to save his life.

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Speaker 2: He couldn't get over it against average guys. Chad Johnson

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Speaker 2: scored double digit touchdowns one time, and it's eleven years.

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Speaker 2: I think I scored double digit touchdowns six times. Scored

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Speaker 2: in the football is the number one player at the receiver. No,

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Speaker 2: I was not a burner. I read four to six

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Speaker 2: four six five, but can do it every single day,

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Speaker 2: can do it for four quarters and the consistent at it.

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Speaker 1: Ocho, you know what that get?

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Speaker 3: Child?

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Speaker 1: Please? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't I'm just trying to take out before I

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Speaker 3: have a question, before you even go, what the hell

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Speaker 3: does that matter? What? What? What? What what does it matter? Okay,

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Speaker 3: you scored double touchdowns? Okay, cool, you want a cookie?

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Speaker 1: Right? Okay, have you had a conversation? Have you have you?

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Speaker 1: Have you had a conversation with CC?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: I don't ain't no, I don't need to have a question,

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Speaker 3: I heard Also he said, well, he only had double

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Speaker 3: digit touchdowns one season, so he's not a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: But does that mean Julio Jones not a Hall of

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Speaker 3: Famer either? Because Julio Jones only had double d touchdowns

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Speaker 3: one season? You have?

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Speaker 1: You have dumb?

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Speaker 3: You have dumbn that sounds yeah. Sometimes I listen to

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Speaker 3: things and and and everyone's situation is different, you know,

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Speaker 3: everyone's situation different. I mean, so stuff like that, I

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Speaker 3: based on what they did. So other people's situations were different.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Obviously where I was, I did the best I could.

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Speaker 3: But the cars I was dealt and I did one

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Speaker 3: hell of a goddamn job. I don't care about what

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Speaker 3: you did. I don't care not about your numbers. It

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Speaker 3: don't make it, don't make me none. Why is my

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Speaker 2: That's what I was That's what I'm trying to figure out.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why it was brought up. I don't cause,

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Speaker 2: like I said, O yo me, I don't really listen

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Speaker 2: to anybody else's podcast. I got enough thing to try to,

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Speaker 2: you know, to try to make our podcast better than

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Speaker 2: what it is, and I got so I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: get gassed, and I'm going with the booker's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: who do you think we should get? Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: So I don't really have time to pay attention. But

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Speaker 2: it just kept popping up, not only on it kept

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Speaker 2: popping up on Twitter, and then I saw it on

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Speaker 2: the internet and I'm like, okay, what brought this about?

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Speaker 1: I said, Did O Joe say something about him? Or what?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: For one?

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't talk about people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we definitely don't talk about people that do what

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Speaker 3: Never and you know, I don't talk about about nobody,

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Speaker 3: you know. But you know, congratulations and everything he said, Happy,

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Speaker 3: happy for you Chris Card and your double digit touchdowns

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Speaker 3: good stuff.

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Speaker 1: I love you.

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Speaker 3: I wish you con continue success and whatever it is

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Speaker 3: you got going on. Baby, I know what we're doing

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Speaker 3: over here though I know, I know, I know, I

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Speaker 1: I'm going. Maybe he wanted you to respond, and I

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Speaker 2: I just said I love him. No, but I'm saying

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Speaker 2: I thought. I mean, I think maybe he wanted you

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Speaker 2: of all, you got kids, I got kids, I got grandkids.

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Speaker 2: I'm not finna go look what we did we did.

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Speaker 1: I can't.

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Speaker 2: He can't go back and score no more touchdowns. You

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Speaker 4: Hey, hold on, I'm still scoring touchdowns right now.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, Yes, you're doing that. No, great job o. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm still scoring touchdowns in life. He said we played.

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Speaker 3: I don't care about that. I'm scoring double double digit

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Speaker 3: Now, you're not seeing You're not You're not hearing where.

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Speaker 1: I'm coming from. I hear what you said. I know,

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Speaker 2: But that's my thing is that sometimes we get caught

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Speaker 3: We all what you're doing now, talk to me what

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Speaker 2: We were all great at once upon a time in

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Speaker 2: our own right, Okay, you know you.

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Speaker 1: Did what you did? I think CC played sixteen seasons?

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Speaker 1: How many played? Sixteen?

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Speaker 3: How many I played?

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Speaker 1: I don't know? Hell you played? I think you played

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Speaker 1: level or twelve? Did you elevel? How many?

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Speaker 3: Ay? I played? Eleven? He played sixteen?

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Speaker 1: How many?

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Speaker 3: How many y'alls you got?

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Speaker 1: Man? Look here, I'm just asking.

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Speaker 2: I don't ask ask ask how many yards does a

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Speaker 2: CC have? But okay, the chance said CC snapped because

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Speaker 2: beat Travis in a one on matchup ten out of

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Speaker 1: Why is he worry about?

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Speaker 3: Bro?

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Speaker 1: We just be joking when we say stuff. Man, it

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Speaker 1: ain't that sad.

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Speaker 3: Oh he knew that. He knew that because I do

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Speaker 3: the same thing with everybody.

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Speaker 2: He just you do you just play as some I said, Ojo,

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Speaker 2: can you not challenge everybody that come on here?

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Speaker 4: You everybody that come on here can get that work?

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Speaker 1: He hit me and travisc.

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Speaker 2: Kicked below fourteen thousand yards. He had thirteen thousand, eight

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Speaker 3: So he played fifteen season sixteen, I think sixteen, and

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Speaker 3: But like I was saying, anybody that come on this show, uh,

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Speaker 3: feel you can't do it, you have to fear you can.

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Speaker 3: Because everything starts up here in the mind. So everybody

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Speaker 3: whatever it is that they do, I feel I can

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Speaker 3: it may be, you're gonna have to show me.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to show me.

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Speaker 3: Matter of fact, Chris Carter, I'll lock Chris Carter ass

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Speaker 3: up right now about what he did.

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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Speaker 1: He's sixty, what that means?

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Speaker 4: He talking like he still got it?

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Speaker 3: Get out here, get on the field, line it up

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Speaker 3: Travis Hanod.

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Speaker 1: We got a pose, that's what we got. So we

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Speaker 2: We walk in, We get up out of bed with

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait

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Speaker 4: One thing about the wide receiver camp, the workshop that I.

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Speaker 3: I'm not just saying what it should look like. Uncle,

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Speaker 3: I'm not there with McLees and my shoes on what

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Speaker 1: I still got it. You hit me. So it's one thing.

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Speaker 3: Once you go back in that structuring environment, you know

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Speaker 3: coach that actually never played, never really played the game.

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Speaker 4: They just know the game based on paper and what

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Like, I'm not there running the rout with you. I'm

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Speaker 3: this is this is Picasso.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say this love. I've known CC a long time.

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Speaker 3: See, I love you, baby, but putting them clease on,

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Speaker 3: put them clease on. I'm gonna show you doubleged to touchdown.

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Speaker 4: I put these two hands in your chest. Boy, you

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Speaker 2: Lebron James went on the Pat McAfee sere today, nearly

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Speaker 2: three weeks after confronting steven A had a basketball game.

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Speaker 2: Ron broke his silence on the incident's referring to the

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Speaker 2: fallout as a Taylor Swift Tour run for steven A

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Speaker 2: to be started. Excuse me overcoment steven A made regarding Bronnie.

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Speaker 2: I initially wasn't gonna say anything. I wasn't gonna talk

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Speaker 1: He's on a Taylor Run Swift tour right now.

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Speaker 2: It started off with I didn't want to address it,

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Speaker 2: but since the video came out, I feed it. I

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Speaker 2: He completely the.

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Speaker 1: Whole point, the whole point.

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Speaker 2: Never would I allow people to talk, not allow people

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Speaker 2: to talk about his sport and criticize players about what

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Speaker 2: they do. This is your job to criticize or to

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Speaker 1: You know, that's all a part of the game. But

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Speaker 1: when you take it and you.

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Speaker 2: Get personal with it, it's not my job to not

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Speaker 2: only protect my damn household, but protect the players. He's

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Speaker 2: talking about it, because I know he's gonna be happy

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Speaker 2: as hell. Me. I wish stephen they would just left

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Speaker 2: it alone once he addressed it. Once it happened the

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Speaker 2: first time address it. This is what happened. He came

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Speaker 2: because as my Grandma's just say, boy stirring up old ish.

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Speaker 2: It still smells. So every time every time stephen A

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Speaker 1: That man loves his family. He's gonna protect his family now.

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Speaker 2: Look, I know people are gonna like, man, Lebron should

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Speaker 2: I was two years ago. But anyway, Yeah, I had

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Speaker 2: But like I said, I would I appreciate instead of him,

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Speaker 2: the end of that, trying to blow it up. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you said that, Sean, why you said that? Right? Hey?

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure how the people in the chat field,

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Speaker 3: And I wish more superstar elite athletes would do that,

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Speaker 3: If that, if that makes.

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Speaker 2: Sense, well, most of the great players are gonna be

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Speaker 2: They're not gonna totally let you inside, especially why they're

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Speaker 2: that's your problem, pimp. You're also brainwashed at Shannon Sharp,

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Speaker 2: I'm not worried about what everyone proceeds to be true,

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Speaker 2: like everyone has because of marketing. I bet you won't

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Speaker 2: debate me big facts. Shannon Sharp, Safety has a short,

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Speaker 2: You just talking at you with no facts. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: Bro, Hey, I ain't even know your answers.

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Speaker 3: You're like, Okay, I like that. I like that. Huh y'all,

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Speaker 3: Hey listen, we can have a club right listen to me, No,

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Speaker 3: I'm just listen, I'm I'm I'm giving you the ultimate

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Speaker 3: Now just picture this you talk about you you think

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Speaker 3: you want to prove it, prove it, dieing the scot

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Speaker 2: I've given I've given coach time and myself have given

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Speaker 2: nothing to debate. There is nobody. There's no one gonna say.

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Speaker 2: He's in the realm of Time. He's in the realm

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Speaker 2: Male Blunt.

440
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Speaker 1: He's not.

441
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 2: I don't give a damn what he says about the film.

442
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 2: He played, he played more game, he played more. Look, bro,

443
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 2: you had an unbelievable career. Congratulations, You're just not Time.

444
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 2: You're not Time, You're not Reevers. You're hold on find

445
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 2: out did he make an All Decade team? Because Time

446
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 2: made All decade and he's one of the one hundred

447
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,120
Speaker 2: greatest players of all time. Let's see his resume. Let's

448
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 2: see his body at work. I complimented, I said time,

449
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 2: don't believe it wasted motion, the team step worked well

450
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 2: for Sante. I gave him a compliment. Let's see his resume.

451
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 2: So he didn't make all decades? Four time Pro Bowler,

452
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 2: one time All Pro? How many times? How many Pro

453
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 2: Bowls a time?

454
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: Make?

455
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 2: How many all teams? Yes, oh, same number of Super Bowls?

456
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 2: But one guy was a defensive Player of the year.

457
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 2: One guy as a defensive back swung the balance of power?

458
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 2: How many dvs can say swung the balance of power?

459
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: He go to one team to keep the other team

460
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 2: from going. He goes to the other team and keep

461
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: that team from going. Brou You had an unbelievable career,

462
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 2: you went to a Pro bow you an All Pro.

463
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 2: You're not Time, and there's no and that's not as knob.

464
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 2: It's okay, it's okay, But I don't know why you're

465
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 2: getting mad at me.

466
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: I tell you what.

467
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 2: Find Go find a gym, Go find a coach, Go

468
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 2: find a player that says a Sante Samuel is the

469
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: equivalent or better than Time. That's all you gotta do. Hell,

470
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 2: your son won't say you better than Time and he

471
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: a jor. Let's be real, man, you coming, I'm the

472
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 2: wrong one.

473
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 3: You what you're doing? Where you going?

474
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 1: I got that.

475
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about, bro, I don't

476
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about. I complimented you. I said

477
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 2: you had an outstanding career. I say the tea step

478
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 2: served you well. I just said you weren't Time. That's okay.

479
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: If somebody says, you know what, Shannon, you had an

480
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: unbelievable career. Shannon.

481
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: You went the eight Pro Bowl, your first team All Pro,

482
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 2: You're an All decade player, You're in the Hall of Fame.

483
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 1: But you ain't Gronk.

484
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: Okay, you ain't Travis Kelsey Okay, but you ain't gonna

485
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 2: go no other tight end. And me talking about you

486
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 2: ain't that. If you want to say Gromp, if you

487
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 2: want to say Kelsey, Shannon, you not that. I ain't

488
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: finna fight you. But you ain't gonna go no more.

489
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: You ain't gonna go no more because when I left,

490
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 2: every record that a tighten could have, I had it,

491
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 2: catch it yards, touchdown, most yards of the game.

492
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 3: Hey, so hold on, I just now that you mentioned that,

493
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: when when it comes when we factoring the numbers and statistics,

494
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: does that play any factor in Assautan's case or it

495
00:23:59,359 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 3: doesn't matter.

496
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: He had more, he had more pass breakups and fewer interceptions.

497
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: How many pig sixty did he have?

498
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: All I know is when I left the game, I

499
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: had every record that a tight end could possibly have.

500
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody had them but me. Now that them came

501
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: along and broke him. Gonzo broke him, and Gaze did this,

502
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 2: and and Gronk and this and that.

503
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

504
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: I don't know why, he madded me. I gave him

505
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: a compliment. Yeah, I said he had an outstanding career.

506
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 2: I said the t step for him served him well.

507
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 3: I like the convo, I like the dialogue.

508
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: I would I would love.

509
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: I would love, especially for not the casual fan, but

510
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 3: for people that are fans of the game. I wish

511
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 3: we could die a little bit more. Obviously not here

512
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 3: on the show.

513
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 2: I'm just asking you find the general manager, find the

514
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 2: head coach, find the receiver, because he.

515
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: Talking about he talking like he was that he might.

516
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 2: I guarantee you when you find somebody that say, hell

517
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 2: top ten a top ten cornerback if we go back

518
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: and study history, top ten corner. So we got Time,

519
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 2: we got Reeves, we got Mail Blunt, we got Rod Woodson,

520
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: we got Daryl Green, we got a Nils Williams, we

521
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: got Mail Blunt.

522
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: Okay, that's seven right there. Where are we?

523
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: Where are we going to put him in the list

524
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: of all times and the history of the NFL As

525
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: he's cracking the top ten? That's your I mean, that's

526
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 2: your homeboy heron Florida. I want you to tell me,

527
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: you tell me what would you put him? Now?

528
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: Anywhere? I'm asking you. I just named seven guys. Which

529
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: one of those seven guys?

530
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: You?

531
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: Are you putting him in front of?

532
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 3: Uh?

533
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: You heard me?

534
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 3: Y'all listen, I'm asking you.

535
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I forgot about Champ Bailey? You put him in

536
00:25:59,520 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: front of Champ?

537
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 3: You ain't answered the question?

538
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 5: Are you putting him in front of Champ Jeremy? I'm listening, Yeah,

539
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 5: where would you put him? I asked you already, I

540
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 5: asked you the question.

541
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: Yes. Now I'm asking you, where do you rank it?

542
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: I just asked this battle simple question. I gave him

543
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: seven eight names he talking about? Well, would I rank

544
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 2: it as you get, you're gonna probably bump into it.

545
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: Hold on, time, hey, hold on, It don't matter who

546
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: I bump into.

547
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: Okay, well you got in front of me.

548
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: But he addressed you. Where are you asking me the question?

549
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: He addressed you?

550
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: So I'm asking you what are you? I already said it?

551
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 2: Are you putting? He's not in front of Time, He's

552
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: not in front of Reevers. He's not in front of

553
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: Wad Woodson. He's not in front of Charles Woodson. He's

554
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: not in front of Mail Blunt. He's not in front

555
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: of Niels Williams. He's not in front of Champ Bailey.

556
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: That's seven. Okay, that's seven guys. Okay, now, now you

557
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: who is he in front of? Is he top ten

558
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: all time into history? Dick Knight, Trey Lane, Amil Tunnel.

559
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: Is here.

560
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: A hey uh uh, I'm just asking he got all

561
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: these facts? Who is he in front of? I'll tell

562
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: you what. Who is he in front of of the

563
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: list that I just named?

564
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: Now you you you you name you name all you lord,

565
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 3: you name all.

566
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 4: Time like all time?

567
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 2: He talking like he all time. Great, that's the problem.

568
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: Nobody got a problem with him saying he's not good

569
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 2: we're talking about he talking about how did you talking about?

570
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: All time great? The guy that I list, he's at

571
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: the front of the line.

572
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: Time Hell Blunt Defensive Player the Year, Charles Woodson Defensive

573
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: Player to the Year, Rod Woodson Defensive Player of the Year.

574
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: There are a lot of guys, but number two one

575
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: is at the front of the line. He talking like

576
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: he in that group. They're a group. Look, we go

577
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: into a room in the Hall of Fame. Okay, we

578
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: going to a room. We all into a room, but

579
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: there are certain guys at certain tables were in the room,

580
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: but we're not at that table. He not even in

581
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: the room. He on the outside. Hey, y'all know I

582
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: played right. Yeah, but this for big dog. Keep it

583
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: a stack. So I want chat, y'all tell me of

584
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: the guys that I listen, who he better than. I

585
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: ain't mentioned Pat p I ain't Richard Mitchell Sherman yet.

586
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: I I just gave y'all a couple of names. I

587
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: want you to tell me who he better than than

588
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: the list I listed who y'all putting them in front

589
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: of Chat y'all. Put him in front of Dion, y'all

590
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: put him in front of revers. Y'all put him in

591
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: front of Charles Woodson, Rod Woodson. H y'all putting him

592
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: in front of Male Blunt? Who are y'all putting Champ Bailey?

593
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: Who are y'all putting him in front of Santa Samuel?

594
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: Who?

595
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: Hollo. I'm trying.

596
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: I'm trying to see.

597
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see what the chat talking about.

598
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: No, I want no, I want you to see what

599
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: the chat talking about. You playing against it? What you're

600
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: talking about. You played against Charles Woodson, you played against

601
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: Pat p, you played against Shanan. Who are you putting

602
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: him in front of?

603
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: I ain't playing against Sharon? But you know you know

604
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: I did. I did. I didn't. I didn't a thing.

605
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: Everywhere I went, you hit me. It was like it

606
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: was like Halloween. If I knock on the door, I'm

607
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: coming to get some candy.

608
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm asking you a simple question. Of the guys that

609
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: were mentioned, who is he in front of?

610
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: And I wouldn't say in front of because you mentioned

611
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: you know the greats, But he has he has the

612
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: numbers to be in the room. I know I know

613
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: that much. And you base everything off numbers when you

614
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 3: talk about let me, let me finish before you say anything.

615
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 3: When you talk about mj in comparison to Michael Jordan,

616
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: when it comes to the base in any other sport,

617
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: we always bring up the numbers, but all of a sudden,

618
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: the numbers are ignored when it comes now talking about.

619
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: In comparison and he got pros got oh no, the

620
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: dude got four Pro Bowls.

621
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: Listen to me.

622
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 3: I'm not finished.

623
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 4: Okay, but again, now we we understand. We we understand.

624
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 4: But when we do a comparison based on greatness, you.

625
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: Know, we'll tell you what. Guess what everything former coach?

626
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: Your former coach had three Pro Bowls and sixty two picks.

627
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: You taking Dick lebo.

628
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: What you know about? Hey, what do you know about both?

629
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: What you know about? You just told me? Numbers? Yeah,

630
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: I mean that, listen, That's what everything is based off of,

631
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: right yo, Okay, numbers.

632
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go all pros, let's go Pro bowls, let's

633
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: go all decades, let's go defensive player of the year.

634
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: That's part of numbers. Also, just not picks, okay, Okay,

635
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: See I look.

636
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: At it like this.

637
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: If you get six picks and you give up eight touchdowns.

638
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: What have you done?

639
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I see what you're doing, y'all.

640
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: I thought the job of a corner is to take

641
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: away more than you give up.

642
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: That's a great combo.

643
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: I'm just waiting on this man to tell me who

644
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: is he better there than the list I named? Now

645
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna have, guess what, let's have the conversation. Hopefully,

646
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: Lord spare of both of our lives, we're able to

647
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: have a conversation another ten to fifteen years. Will I'm

648
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna need to your gold jack on his

649
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: back because all the guys that I mentioned I hate.

650
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey's gonna be coming up, Richard Sherman's gonna be

651
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: coming up. Pat P's gonna be coming up. You see

652
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: what he trying to do. Oh, it's all about marketing, bro.

653
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: You played on the Patriots, Ty Law played on the Patriots.

654
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: Ty Long got a red jacket and a gold jacket.

655
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: So don't do that bull job about marketing if you

656
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: who was on TV more than the Patriots?

657
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: Oh Joe oh, during during that during that, during that time,

658
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: who yeah, Oh so.

659
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: Nine's marketing.

660
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: Time. Ain't no marketing, bro? Yeah, he marketed himself to

661
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: know how to parlay that. But that man on the field,

662
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: you better go check them taps.

663
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: Either you can or you can't.

664
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 4: That's a great conversation, Bro, that's a that's a good one.

665
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: Now, Oh.

666
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: Wyman Brown, Mike Haynes. Mike Haynes got nine, like nine

667
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: Pro bowls. You better go check.

668
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: That's a great conlo.

669
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: Let me grab me with Sante. Go ahead, Bro, Santell.

670
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: You have a great career.

671
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: Bro.

672
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you good player. You just all I said you

673
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: weren't time and you had to get personal. I don't know,

674
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I mean, if you wanted to

675
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: come on nightcap to get to get your name out there.

676
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: You could have did that.

677
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 4: Hey hey, hey, listen, that is a great combo.

678
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: Brother, you hear me.

679
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: It's a great what's a great combo? This one?

680
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: I like this. I just obviously it's not me as

681
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: the individual, but I'm just saying that's what it is.

682
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: Prime. Is he better than Stefan Gilmore?

683
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: At some point chat, don't y'all want you to chime

684
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: in instead of just talking about this is a great combo?

685
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: You say nothing. Listen to you. This is a nightcapo.

686
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: We don't miss with each other. We go back and forth.

687
00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 1: I mean chiming it all.

688
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 3: I'm in chiying it on. I'm listening to you.

689
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: Listen.

690
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: He listened to me. He and dressed.

691
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: He addressed Shannon Sharp. He's in a lone message to

692
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: Shannon Sharp. So I'm just listening.

693
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: What where did he addressed Shannon Sharp? What was Shannon

694
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: Sharp speaking on?

695
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: What?

696
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: On him?

697
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 3: Oh?

698
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: Night cap? Night cap? UK and Ocho right?

699
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 3: So is your is your job to answer back?

700
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: I get it chat y'all see o Cho don't want

701
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: to chime in heath of Florida. Ocho might bump into it.

702
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: Y'all know me. I'll give a damn whatever.

703
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: What he heard, the problem, the thing whatever Shannon Sharp

704
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: say on night Cap Shannon Sharp with if he be

705
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 2: bumped into, said player, Shannon Sharp is mad enough to

706
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: stand on that bro.

707
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: You not tying?

708
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: You not Charles Woodson, You not Rod Woodson, You not

709
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: Darrell Reevers, You not Mail Blunt, You not Mike Haynes,

710
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: You not Dale Green, you not facts. Now of the

711
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: ten guys that I name, mind the coach, find the

712
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: receiver that said Sante Samuel is better than any of

713
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: those guys.

714
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 3: See the way, the way, the way you make it

715
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: sound oh so you you you being mean?

716
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: Oh Yoe?

717
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: And you and you you said you yeah. How you

718
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 3: make it sound You make it sound like like Buddy

719
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: was trash or something.

720
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: I didn't say he was trash the way I'm.

721
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: Just saying, the way you talking like you acting like

722
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: we just sitting here talking about so I'm just some

723
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 3: old bum we I'm just I'm just curious.

724
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, who could I say? Yeah?

725
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I played the game. Listen, I played

726
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 3: the right Stay with me, Stay with me, stay with

727
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: me real quick. I played the game on the other

728
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 3: side of the ball. So I know I played against Prime.

729
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: I played against them. I have an understand them both

730
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: and how good they were, what they hold on great

731
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 3: as Prime was, and how good Zunt was. So it's

732
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: hard for me to sit here and say, you know

733
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: the way you're doing. When I saw with my own eyes,

734
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: I understand how great Prime is. But then I know

735
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: what that young boy was doing as well.

736
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: When he was playing.

737
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: All I said I said he was good. I said

738
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: he was a very good player, had an unbelievable career.

739
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 2: He used the technique, he used the technique that time

740
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 2: doesn't approve of two things can be true, Yes, sir, Okay,

741
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: some guys like to play press and open the gate.

742
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: Some guys like the press and put hands. Whatever technique

743
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: works for you. But he was talking as if he

744
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: was the equivalent because he posted his stats in time Stats,

745
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: saying look at our stats, right, So he's posting those

746
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: stats as if he's the equivalent, and I said he's not.

747
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: I didn't say he wasn't a good player. I said

748
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: he went the Pro Bowls. I think he was an

749
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: All pro. I know he won Super Bowls in New England.

750
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: That's what I said, Right. He took offense that I

751
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: didn't co sign him. I don't need no marketing. I

752
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: don't need to co sign. I think everybody's known. I

753
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 2: didn't have an opportunity to critique Time when he played

754
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: when he went back for those two years, because he

755
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 2: was mainly a safety and he didn't start the game. Okay,

756
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: that's fine, But I've never had a problem critiquing any player.

757
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: I critique Tom Brady, Hayton, Manny, you name a player,

758
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: Ray Lewis, Receivers, T Randy. I've never had a problem

759
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 2: critiquing because I'm basing it on my knock, intimate knowledge

760
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: of the game and film study. When I was at CBS,

761
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: I would watch film. How many times when I was

762
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: at CBS or Fox? When you ever heard a guy

763
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: called tell about shanty shop? Don't know what the hell

764
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: he talking about?

765
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 3: No, any what happened?

766
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: See what y'all try to do? Well, you're doing this.

767
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: That's not what I said. No, No, I've never said

768
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: I've never seen. The difference is skip tried to say.

769
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: I said I was better than Tom Brady. I said

770
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: Tom Brady wasn't playing well. Why would I, as a

771
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: tight end, compare myself to a quarterback?

772
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: Okay, right, right, right, I would need to compare.

773
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: Myself to grump, to Kelsey or a tight end. And

774
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: that's the only way you can get an equivalent.

775
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: I said.

776
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, Asante had a great career, Pro Bowl,

777
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: Super bowls now guy like said, you want to say, Shannon,

778
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,959
Speaker 2: you ain't trash, you ain't grown.

779
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, you got me, right, you got me.

780
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm just confused. But look, bro, you I

781
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: gave Almeley.

782
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: I gave you fifteen minutes of fame, fame that you

783
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: never would have got had you not mentioned me or time?

784
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: Enjoy it?

785
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: Now go back to your solitary life. Nobody's gonna win.

786
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: Were the last I tell you? What about Joe? When

787
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: was the last time prior to last night, when was

788
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: the last time you heard somebody? Minchell Sante Samuel, Take

789
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: you time, I'm gonna get me. I'm gonna get me

790
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: some water. Take your time, hey, chat, y'all keep on.

791
00:39:53,320 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: Your interested hey anyway, chat, we're back on the lo

792
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: upset his love set. Other than that, it's a great conversation.

793
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: I like it.

794
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 3: I like the dialogue, I like the back and forth.

795
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 3: I like players. Also, we always talk about having a belief,

796
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: having not only a belief in what you can do

797
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: and what you've already done, and bringing it to the forefront,

798
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: bringing to the forefront, and supporting what it is you've

799
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 3: done in comparison to someone else who is also great.

800
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: And that's okay.

801
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 3: Now, a lot of people won't see it that way

802
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 3: as you can see it, including one thing I've always

803
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: do see is.

804
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: If you were bad at what you do, then I

805
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: will always.

806
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 3: Come out and say that. But I played against both,

807
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 3: and I understand how good both were. I understand how

808
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: great prime was obviously catching him on the tail end

809
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 3: of his career and obviously playing against Sante doing his

810
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 3: prime and understanding how good he was, how much of

811
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: a student of the game he was. And what I'm

812
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: not going to do is diminish what I was able

813
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: to see for years while I was playingunderstanding watching film

814
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: here and understand how good he was and how savvy

815
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 3: was technically, you know.

816
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: So it's different coming from someone that.

817
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: Actually played on the opposite side and understand how good

818
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 3: he was, you know, So it's hard to see.

819
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: It to say, oh, he'd not be whoa whoahoa.

820
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: I had to go against this. I had to go

821
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: against that for years, So it's different. It's different, you know,

822
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 3: especially and a lot of a lot of people in

823
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: the chat of some of the comments on Twitter, on

824
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 3: x whatever it may be, their feelings are always different

825
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 3: as well, because it's based off who you know and

826
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 3: what they've done.

827
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: Hey, that was good.

828
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: I just asked you a simple question. Proud to last

829
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: night and today. When was the last time you heard

830
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: somebody mentioned a Sante Samuel.

831
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to know. I'll be on Nightcap.

832
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: Every time a time they break a record, who record

833
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: they see to there the most one hundred and fifty

834
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: yard games, the more lost. This the most that every

835
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: Sunday in the NFL season on the tight end does something.

836
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 6: Who name is up there? When they have them names?

837
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 6: He just passed this one. Who name is also up there?

838
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 6: Ocho Ocho, don't worry.

839
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: About Ojo, Hey, Chad all I try to do I

840
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: try to, you know, try to go back and forth.

841
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: But O Joe, you know O chose like, hey.

842
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: We did, we did go back and forth.

843
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 4: That was That was a good one.

844
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: Though, Now no you you laughing.

845
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying, for real, that was a good one. I

846
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 3: don't that was a That was a good one.

847
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: Joe cry.

848
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: We gotta start to talk about what happened. Not only

849
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: yesterday last night, O Joe, you and I were at

850
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: lambeau Field for the first round of the draft, but

851
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: today rounds two and three has passed, and your doors

852
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: Sanders hasn't been selected. One hundred and two picks. Five

853
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: quarterbacks elected. Cam Ward. Cam Ward went number one overall.

854
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: No surprise there. We knew that once they had he

855
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: had his workout, they skepp They canceled all other official

856
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: visits that told me everything I needed to know. Boom now,

857
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: Jackson Dark, Tyler Shuck, Jaylen Milroe, Dylan Gabriel. Now for

858
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: for context, I want to provide contacts. Oh Joe, Yeah,

859
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: what we'd like to do here? Daniel Jeremiah has Shardure

860
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: the second ranked quarterback. Four days ago, cam Ward was

861
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 2: the eighth overall best player. Shaduur was the twentieth best

862
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: overall player, Jackson Dark the thirty sixth overall best player,

863
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck seventy fifth overall best player, Jalen Miroe eighty sixth.

864
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel won forty eight. Mel Kiper Junior.

865
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 2: The Guru just four days ago had Shaduur ranked over

866
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: cam Ward. He had shr Door as the fifth best player,

867
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: cam Ward as the sixth best player. Jackson Dart at

868
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: the twenty eight the best player, Tyler Shook forty six.

869
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus had him second behind cam Ward just

870
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: yesterday morning, but we saw.

871
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: Today cam Ward. Cam Ward went first.

872
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: The Giants traded back into the first round on show

873
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: to take Jackson Dart at twenty fifth. Tyler Shook went

874
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: forty to the Saints, and we thought there Shoulder could

875
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 2: possibly be nine go nine to the Saints.

876
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: Bear.

877
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: Nope, they take Tyler shuk Jaln Milroe ninety second overall

878
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: to the Seattle Seahawks and Dylan Gabriel ninety fourth to

879
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: the Browns. Now, we were there, we're talking about well,

880
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: Shador Arm. You know you're outside in Cleveland.

881
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 3: Not don't start that shit.

882
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I'm just saying to contact. Give

883
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: me sax. I'm gonna tell you. Let me give me

884
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: a second on Shoe.

885
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: Baltimore outside Pittsburgh, got Cincinnati, Cleveland. I don't see what

886
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel arm is any stronger than your doors.

887
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I could be I could be

888
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: but I don't know.

889
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 2: And I know I'm gonna turn it over to you,

890
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: oh Joe, because I know Joe got questions. I'm gonna

891
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: turn over to you. I will say this before I

892
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: do with Yoe. In all my years, and I go

893
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: back to like really following the draft and understanding where

894
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: players are going getting drafted. Back in eighty seven and

895
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: almost forty years, I've never seen anything.

896
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 3: Like this, Uncle, I've never seen nothing like this myself. Obviously.

897
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: I know I only played a short time, but I've

898
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 3: been around long enough to know obviously the year that

899
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 3: the eleven twelve years I did play, and all the

900
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: time i've been i've been retired and enjoying the game

901
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: and watching it from afar and understanding how player, how

902
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: good players are regards to what scouts may say, the

903
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: iron the sky doesn't lie. I wash your door play

904
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: from high school to college at Jackson State to what

905
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: he was able to do at Colorado. I want everybody

906
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: to understand that you're never Biggert in the program. You'll

907
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: never be bigger than the program, no matter who you are,

908
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 3: and they will show you.

909
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: They will always.

910
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: Remind you at any given time if at any point

911
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: you think you are bigger than the program.

912
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: And that is all we seeing.

913
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: That's all we're seeing right now, Joe, that is always

914
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: seeing right now regards to who you are. There are

915
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: some things I think Prime might have said. I don't

916
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: want to quote it, but he will where he said it, similar.

917
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: To there's some places I don't want to go. We're

918
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: not going to go.

919
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 3: What Archie Manning said when it came to Eli. Same thing,

920
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 3: no different anyway. I got something today I really want

921
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 3: to read chat. I want you to listen to me

922
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: real quick. I'm not here to stir up. I'm happy

923
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 3: for everybody that got drafted. I want you to listen

924
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 3: to something that was sent that was sent to me

925
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: on Instagram chat. Y'all stay with me real quick and

926
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: just listen to me very very closely. What we're winnings.

927
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: This sin, once again is the machinery of a system

928
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 3: that is never quite known what to do with a

929
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 3: free black man, much less than a free black family.

930
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 3: The NFL, with all this pageantry and power, finds itself uncomfortable,

931
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 3: even threatened when it likes to the Sanders family walk

932
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 3: into a room, not asking for a seat at the table,

933
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: but daring to bring their own dion shador. This family

934
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: has refused to shrink to fit the confines laid out

935
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 3: for them, and so the machine does what it has

936
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: always done. It seeks to diminish the distort, to remind

937
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 3: them and us that there are still a place for

938
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: black folk and is not at the head of the table.

939
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 3: But the tragedy, you see, it is not in their

940
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 3: refusal to bow, but it is in the nation sphere

941
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 3: of black excellence unchained. The fear that has always been

942
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: the real danger, not the power of our stride, but

943
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 3: the shadow we cast when we stand upright, unafraid and

944
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 3: unapologetically ourselves.

945
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was talking. I was talking to my sister.

946
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: She said, well, you thank your door. I said, Libby,

947
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. If you don't go

948
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 2: in the second round, I think he might slide out

949
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: of the third.

950
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 3: Unks.

951
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 4: All the games, it's all the game.

952
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: Look, oh, Joe, your draft, your draft story.

953
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: My brother's draft story was a lot different than mine.

954
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 2: My brother didn't have to wait long. First round, seventh pick,

955
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: boot be gone on a plane, on the plane, the

956
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: Green Bay boom you second round?

957
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 4: Hey, hold with with with red flags, with with with

958
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 4: with character issues?

959
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: School to school, bounce from over and over? Why do

960
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: you go here? Why do you go here?

961
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 6: Bad?

962
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: Still? Second round? Were taking a chance on them. There

963
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: is no off the field issues. What you do, no issues?

964
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: Know nothing.

965
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: Oh he's arrogant.

966
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:03,959
Speaker 1: Oh he's good. Great.

967
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 4: I have a question, what women, Johnny manziel coy.

968
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: Oh give you a battle. Baker Mayfield? What was Baker Mayfield?

969
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 3: Okay, now, now now what I will say when it

970
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 3: comes to college and you watch film, that motherfucker, I'm sorry,

971
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 3: Johnny Manziel and Baker Mayfield, what they played, what they

972
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: were absolutely awesome.

973
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: Yes, but again, you can't take away what Shad was

974
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: able to do.

975
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,959
Speaker 3: At a Den of Colorado team that won one game,

976
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: they come back the next year with Shador and win

977
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 3: four and I'm not sure we.

978
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: Went five, and then the next year I think they

979
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: win nine. Yeah I heard what did I hear you?

980
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: I heard someone says that his confidence doesn't match his game. So,

981
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: in other words, he does a lot of talking and

982
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: his game is not indicative of the type of bravado

983
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: what m hm, hey o O Joe.

984
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, question is do y'all even think he'll get

985
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: drafted at this point? I mean, what we do?

986
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 7: We threw three rounds already. Oh lord, have mercy, Joe. Look,

987
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 7: that's when I started thinking about it. I'm like, hold on,

988
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 7: I'm only watching.

989
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see two get drafted. I'm like, hold on,

990
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm hoping, I'm hoping.

991
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: I'm hoping he goes in the fourth round because, oh, Joe, Okay,

992
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: let me ask you. This team that needed a quarterback,

993
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: what do they do they took a quarterback in the

994
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: second or the third round? Well, if you already took

995
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 2: a quarterback in the second or third round. What's the

996
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 2: likelihood you're taking a quarterback in the fourth, fifty, sixth,

997
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: or seventh round.

998
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 3: So now you tell Now you're telling me the people

999
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 3: that you did pick in the second and third round

1000
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: you feel they're better than s Doure. So at what

1001
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 3: point did you come on a team as I'm not

1002
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 3: even gonna mention anything about free agency.

1003
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: What if they prove a point in making way to

1004
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: the seventh it's possible, Joe, what point.

1005
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 3: Are they trying to prove it? Especially at this point, Joe,

1006
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 3: I've never seen I've never ever seen anything like this.

1007
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about black and white. I ain't talk

1008
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 3: about none of that. I'm talking about based on what

1009
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 3: I've seen on film with my own eyes, based on.

1010
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: Compared to other quarterbacks outside of Cam Woard. What are

1011
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: we looking at.

1012
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 3: I'm not a scout, I'm not a GM, but I

1013
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 3: do have commonsations. I do understand and know the game.

1014
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 3: You're not telling me everybody that has drafted before him?

1015
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 3: What are we talking about again? I'm happy for everybody

1016
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 3: that got drafted. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just saying we're

1017
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 3: not trying to do. We're not trying to do anybody.

1018
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 3: We're trying to make light up. We're trying to make

1019
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 3: sense of what we're seeing with your door, because I

1020
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 3: think the thing is.

1021
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 2: What, oh, Joe, if there was an injury that we

1022
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: didn't know about, we saw will will Hire the cornerback

1023
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: out of what you call him. He had a propensity

1024
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 2: when they gave him a scan, they say he has

1025
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 2: a high risk.

1026
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: For knee injury. So he slid down.

1027
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 2: Okay, if there's a red flag that we don't know,

1028
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: but I don't The guy got great. He was on

1029
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 2: the I think the honor roll. I think he had

1030
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 2: a great GPA. He's never been in trouble. The numbers

1031
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: speak for themselves. So for me to see a guy

1032
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: rated this high with no issues, that's what's puzzling. Look Like,

1033
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: I said, O Joe, you and I don't know, excuse

1034
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: me what those thirty two teams and how they view him.

1035
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 2: You know, they say beauty is in the eye of beholder.

1036
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: You think that's good. I don't think that bad. You

1037
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: right light red, I like black, you like this, I

1038
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: like that.

1039
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Oh, I don't know.

1040
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: Based on the rankings of all these people that get

1041
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 2: paid to do this, and it's their opinion is subjective,

1042
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 2: but nobody. I don't think anybody really has your door,

1043
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: pant cam Wartz, like mel Kiper has your door. Run

1044
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: as far as quarterback, most everybody had him too, behind

1045
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 2: cam Ward.

1046
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: But to see this precipitous fall, this precipitous drop.

1047
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: And guys, I mean some guys had Dylan Gabriel uh

1048
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: when they had the ranked the one hundred and forty

1049
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 2: eight best player, mil Road, the eighty six best best player,

1050
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: Kyler Shilk seventy fifth. Shador almost never got past the

1051
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 2: twentieth best player in the draft. He was twentieth on

1052
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: some people's board. He was the fifth best player on

1053
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 2: some people's board.

1054
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: And he's he's a Day three possible.

1055
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 2: Well that's it. It's day three. So you get one

1056
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: to two and then you go, you know, rounds four

1057
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 2: through seven.

1058
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: I've never seen I've never seen collusion like this before ever.

1059
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 3: I've never seen it.

1060
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: And you know what it is.

1061
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 3: Let's call a spade a spade for those that are watching,

1062
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 3: for those that in the chat, I'm not saying there's

1063
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 3: anything wrong with those that were drafted.

1064
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: Before him.

1065
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, based on my knowledge of the game

1066
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 3: and understanding of football and what I've watched throughout the years,

1067
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 3: especially from that specific position. Now, the only thing I

1068
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 3: can say, the only red flag for them, it's his

1069
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 3: approach to the game and it is confidence. I'm assuming

1070
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: that they don't like that. But how do you not

1071
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 3: want a player to feel the way he feels? How

1072
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 3: do you not want a player that believes in himself,

1073
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 3: in his skill set and what he's done and works

1074
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: his ass off to get to That could be the

1075
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 3: only thing. But that can't be a bad thing because

1076
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 3: there have been other players that have come before him

1077
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 3: that approached the same game but that same demeanor, in

1078
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: same attitude and belief similar to him.

1079
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: So to me, it really makes no sense.

1080
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,959
Speaker 3: But again nothing and they will always time and time

1081
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 3: remind us in certain instances that you will never be

1082
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 3: bigger than the machine or the program. And that's all

1083
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 3: this is.

1084
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: That's all it comes down to.

1085
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 7: And it could be a It could be a good

1086
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 7: thing for him too, you know what I mean, If

1087
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 7: he do get an opportunity that chip on his shoulder, man,

1088
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 7: you know what, for all the doubters and they say,

1089
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 7: is the people who didn't believe in them, the teams

1090
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 7: who continue to pass up on him.

1091
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1092
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 7: You use that fire and desire when you touch the field, bro,

1093
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 7: you know, you let him know what's up. So I

1094
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 7: don't know, it could be a blessing to this guy.

1095
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, tom Brady, But if people that were tom Brady

1096
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 2: went win the sixth round. But tom Brady wasn't as

1097
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: rated as high as your Door. Tom Brady was a

1098
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: backup basically his whole career except the last six seven

1099
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 2: games of his senior season, right, So that's the difference.

1100
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: And like I said, tom Brady turned out to be

1101
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: what tom Brady turned out to be. I had a

1102
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 2: very similar story to your Door because people like, well

1103
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 2: if he was that good, why didn't he go to

1104
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 2: a D one school?

1105
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: Well, with my grades, I couldn't. I couldn't.

1106
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: I couldn't have got into Juco, the only place I

1107
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 2: could get into because there was no there was no

1108
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: you know, you didn't have to have the same standardized

1109
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 2: testing grade to get into a Division two school as

1110
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 2: you did a Division one. Because my year old shoe

1111
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six, it would have it. That was the

1112
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 2: first year of PROP forty eight, so you had to

1113
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 2: make seven hundred. Remember I told you my credit score

1114
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: by four. Yeah, that was also my SAT score. Now

1115
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 2: they give you a hunter to put your name on

1116
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 2: the thing.

1117
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I might have got that roll, you know, Joe,

1118
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: I might have left the y'all. I might have left

1119
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: the y'all for my own name. Joe. Hey, don't want

1120
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: to do that, now hold me.

1121
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 7: I'm laughing with you because I was a proud when

1122
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 7: I went to college too. I didn't have my score,

1123
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 7: and uh, you know it was challenging, bro. You know,

1124
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 7: we ain't take the SA tea.

1125
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: We took the A.

1126
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: And you know back then on Joe, you know, I

1127
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: played the game that I played the game that Friday night,

1128
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 2: and then my sister, Yeah, my sister drive me to

1129
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: Georgia Southern to take that test. They passed out their test,

1130
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: and I look at that all these students day right,

1131
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 2: I'm just sitting there like I don't know nothing on here.

1132
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: You know, It's like listen, I ain't even I ain't

1133
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 1: even got no business laughing.

1134
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 3: I don't even have no busness laughing, because you gotta understand,

1135
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 3: I had my I had my red flags and my

1136
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 3: character issues going to the league because of my reason

1137
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 3: for bouncing around from school to school.

1138
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: You got to understand. I grab it from beach eye.

1139
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 3: Hell, I ain't even graduate from goddamn high school.

1140
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 1: Long time my grave. It's so bad.

1141
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 4: Listen, Joe, Joe, don't laugh, Joe sweet for God.

1142
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: Listen.

1143
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 3: We family, We family, We get talking.

1144
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: Man, I got you my dream.

1145
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 3: My dream was I wanted to go to fam you.

1146
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: So I'm coming out of high school.

1147
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 3: I told my grandma and said, Mama, I wanted to

1148
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 3: go down to family, right down and tell Lassie.

1149
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: My grandma say, listen, baby, it ain't looking good for you.

1150
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: It's not looking good for you.

1151
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you options on where you might be

1152
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 3: able to go, but it definitely a ple to be

1153
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 3: fam you.

1154
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: I ended up.

1155
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 3: I ended up at Langston University, an I a school, obviously.

1156
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 3: I'm sure we have some people in the chat from

1157
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 3: from Oklahoma ended.

1158
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: Up at Lankes University. Get there.

1159
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 3: The first semester, I get thrown out for fighting, Joe,

1160
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 3: I get I get thrown up a fight, man, I'll

1161
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: never forget rest is soul. Doctor Ernest Holloway rest in peace.

1162
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 3: Ship me back to Miami. I come to my grandma.

1163
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 3: I told my grandma what happened. Look, you know my roommate.

1164
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,959
Speaker 3: I think my roommates stole my my parel, grand money.

1165
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 3: My grandma say, listen, baby, I've done all I can

1166
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 3: with you.

1167
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 4: I washed my hands, I got to see you.

1168
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 3: I got to sing your to you.

1169
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: Mom there in La let me see what she could

1170
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: do with you. That's how I end. That's how I

1171
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: ended up at.

1172
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 3: Santa Monica College nineteen ninety seven with Steve Smith Boom.

1173
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 3: That's two years down. So I played with Steve that

1174
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 3: first year long. Behold here I go again on not

1175
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 3: going to class. I'm thinking, you know what, my skill set,

1176
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 3: it's gonna get me through the door man. And people

1177
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 3: don't play that. They don't play that out there in

1178
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 3: Santa Monica. Oh no, hey, Joe, I'm in. I'm ineligible

1179
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 3: the third year, so I got to sit out the

1180
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 3: third year. So that's three years down. I'm at Southwest

1181
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 3: doing classes. I'm at West l A doing classes, and

1182
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 3: I'm doing classes at Santa Monica just to get my

1183
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 3: grades together so I could play.

1184
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety nine.

1185
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 3: That's four years. I go out there, I get my

1186
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 3: stuff together. I have one for one scholarship. I had

1187
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 3: two schools off me a full ride, one for one

1188
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 3: San Diego State Aztecs and coach Dennis Rickson he was

1189
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 3: at Oregon State. Man. I hey, Joe, I squeezed through the.

1190
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: Crack I got.

1191
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 3: I got to Oregon State. Man all I needed, Joe,

1192
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 3: I just used to be on the big stage, just

1193
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 3: to show them folks, I can play football.

1194
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: That's it.

1195
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 3: Once I got to Oregon State, man, I play. I

1196
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: was there four months. I ain't go to nan class.

1197
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 3: I ain't go to no classes.

1198
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: Hey, already know what it was, but it is my

1199
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: last shot.

1200
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 3: My singular focus was straight football. Hey, Joe, I showed

1201
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 3: out at Organ State. That looked what that looked? Four

1202
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 3: months I had. I got drafted in the second round.

1203
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 3: Despite all my issues and all my troubles, all my

1204
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 3: off the field stuff.

1205
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: There's me.

1206
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 2: They say, well, h uh uh uh Shanada, you're raised.

1207
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: Where the rest of them? I say, these they look

1208
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: at you good. And the ones that's coming to my

1209
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: ain't gonna look much better. I don't know, oh ya,

1210
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: I know y'all hoping for this all I got for you?

1211
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 3: Is it?

1212
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: Hey? My freshman year.

1213
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 7: Hey, look my freshman year in college. Oh, Joe pro forty.

1214
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 7: So I couldn't play the first semester. Yeah, as a freshman,

1215
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 7: I can go to the games. I gotta see in

1216
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 7: the stands. I gotta watch the dude, I gotta wash

1217
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 7: my homies, grind out there, you know what I mean.

1218
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 7: I can't compete, I'm like, so it built up of

1219
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 7: firing me.

1220
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: So when I did get eligible, I just took it

1221
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: out on everybody in the sec. You know what I mean.

1222
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, two times.

1223
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 7: Sometimes when things get delayed a little bit, you know

1224
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 7: you can you can must up some fire to continue.

1225
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 7: You can must up some fireer when you get out there,

1226
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 7: you can let him know what's up, you know what

1227
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 7: I mean. And so for sure that's why when it

1228
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 7: goes back to shit door man, uh you know, wherever

1229
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 7: he goes, bro, I'm sure he'll be happy. And hopefully

1230
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 7: with that chip man, he let him know what's up.

1231
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 7: You know, get back in that get back in their laugh.

1232
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. And the funny thing.

1233
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 3: About it too, wherever shaudor come, wherever he goes.

1234
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: I love the saying.

1235
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 3: It's not when you get drafted. It's what you do

1236
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 3: once you get there. And absolutely competitor. I understand the

1237
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 3: competitor that he is and where he goes whoever, and

1238
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 3: where he goes if it's if it's a team that

1239
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 3: does and have one of the elite superstar quarterbacks, his

1240
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 3: competitive nature's gonna kick in and there's a chance that

1241
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 3: he can beat those quarterbacks out despite whatever odds or

1242
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 3: collusion they have against Dad. When he gets a chance,

1243
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 3: he's gonna show him. I know that, just the competitor

1244
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 3: in him. He's not gonna he's not gonna. I'm not

1245
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 3: gonna hold his head. He's not gonna let it down.

1246
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 3: He just wants that opportunity. And once they open that door,

1247
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 3: and he closed it behind him after playing after after

1248
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 3: they played the game they played these past two days,

1249
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 3: man child, please.

1250
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 2: And yeah, like I said on you, I went through

1251
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 2: something very similar. And I just remember having a conversation

1252
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: with my brother who came in there that night when

1253
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: I didn't go in the first three rounds, and I say, man,

1254
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 2: I say spank. I went to the East West Rine

1255
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 2: game and went to the Blue Gray, I went to

1256
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 2: the I went to the Combine I said, man, the

1257
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 2: guy that they drafted ain't better than me.

1258
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: I said, they're not better than me. Spank, I said,

1259
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: I saw up, I see all of them. I said.

1260
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 2: I went to the East West Shrine game, and I

1261
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 2: was the best receiver there. I said, I will I

1262
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 2: said I. I said, all I want is an opportunity.

1263
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 2: Give me a give me a helmet and some shoulder pass,

1264
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 2: and hey, whoever comes a I'm gonna throw all y'all

1265
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 2: ass in the water.

1266
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: Whoever swim back to shore, that's who. Get it. Yeah?

1267
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that's it. And what about

1268
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: the reports?

1269
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 3: What about the reports? Now this just happened. Multiple players

1270
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 3: have done this. He didn't throw at the combine.

1271
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he but he threw. But he threw at

1272
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: his pro dag. Yeah.

1273
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 2: There have been a lot of guys that don't throw.

1274
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 2: Because I want to throw. I want to throw the

1275
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 2: guys that's familiar with me. I'm familiar with them, because

1276
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 2: it's not like they're gonna break a guy. You're not

1277
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 2: gonna bring a guy in on a Sunday. And he

1278
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 2: hadn't thrown to those guys. So I wanted, you know, hey,

1279
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: I want to see how I know how my guys

1280
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: run routes. They know how I throw the ball.

1281
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 3: Boom.

1282
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: It's a perfect marriage because I want everybody to look

1283
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 2: good and possibly o yo, there might be some guys

1284
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 2: if I don't throw with my pro day, if I

1285
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: don't throw, guess what, this guy's not gonna come to

1286
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 2: see them, because everybody's not gonna be a first or

1287
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 2: second round pick. Might be some guys get picked up

1288
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 2: as a free agent. So I want to cast shot,

1289
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 2: cast them any good light. Yeah, I just look, it's

1290
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 2: tough and nothing when you're going through something. Yeah, people

1291
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 2: that you're gonna be already a at this point, at

1292
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 2: that point in time, Ojo, you ain't really trying to

1293
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 2: hear that because you can't see. All I can see

1294
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: was what's in front of me, because it takes it

1295
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 2: takes a special type of a person to see beyond

1296
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 2: their circumstances. All I can see is right here, not

1297
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 2: where I wish to be, not where I'm going to be.

1298
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: Because that's why a lot of people make decisions based

1299
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 2: on where they are currently, not where they wish to be.

1300
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: It's tough. It's tough.

1301
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 3: Uh.

1302
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 2: And I heard what you said, and you know and

1303
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: like I said, I heard people say, well, I mean

1304
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: he really extremely confidence, but his game doesn't match the

1305
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 2: confidence coach Prime whatever. Look, and I I don't know

1306
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 2: if anybody that's selected now was even in the NFL

1307
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 2: or selected or in a position uh when Prime was there.

1308
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: So I don't know how I wouldn't. You know, guys

1309
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 2: say I don't. I don't want to make this team's

1310
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 2: gonna Oh yo, you and I played this game. We've

1311
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 2: covered this game, and we've been around this game a

1312
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 2: long time. These teams gonna do what the hell they

1313
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 2: want to do. Not even told y'all, y'all, y'all ain't

1314
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 2: gonna make a have have this guy quarterback on how

1315
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:42,919
Speaker 2: this guy is a coach.

1316
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: We gonna do what the ef we want to do.

1317
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 2: They're gonna select who they want to select who they

1318
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 2: and they believe that, Hey, we believe the guy, and

1319
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 2: they'll tell you. We believe Dylan Brooks is better, they

1320
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 2: should do it. We believe Jackson Dark, we believe Shook,

1321
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 2: we believe mill Roe, we believe they're upside is better

1322
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 2: than you doing.

1323
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: How do how do we prove that it's not?

1324
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 2: I mean, dyl Dylan Gabriel did throw for had like

1325
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty I mean he got what sixteen

1326
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 2: seventeen thousand yards? He got one hundred and thirty hundred

1327
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: and forty plus testdown. I don't know, but I'm just

1328
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 2: saying it's I just I don't know what I chat.

1329
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: I'm at a lost I normally would it be able

1330
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: to have give you a good give you a good

1331
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 2: excuse or good reason. I don't like to use the

1332
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 2: word excuse. I would like to give you a reason

1333
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: why I think a person or a player slid. I

1334
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 2: have some intel red flag, even though I wouldn't tell

1335
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 2: you exactly, but I would you know, hint around and

1336
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 2: then I'll let you deduce it for yourself. Oh, y'all,

1337
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 2: don't got nothing. I don't got nothing that. It's not

1338
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 2: about grades. He doesn't have a pre existing condition, he

1339
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 2: doesn't have oh the character issue that he has. He's

1340
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 2: extremely confident. He believes in himself, which is I think

1341
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 2: that one of the most important things you can have

1342
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,439
Speaker 2: as an athlete is confidence of belief in you, Because

1343
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: if you don't believe in you, who the hell else

1344
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 2: will Joe Nobody.

1345
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: You always gotta believe in yourself. Man, utmost, all.

1346
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 2: Those all those days when I was training alone, wasn't

1347
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 2: nobody there? No coaches saw it, no other players.

1348
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: I did this. I believed in me.

1349
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: I believe that I was preparing for something greater, even

1350
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 2: though the circumstances that I was in currently. Look, I

1351
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,439
Speaker 2: mean it should tell you something to Yes, his dad

1352
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 2: gave him great opportunity to great coaches.

1353
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: He you know, he was with Braid and he had

1354
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: a throwing coach. Whatever the case may be.

1355
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 2: Isn't that what past supposed to do, putting their kids

1356
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: in the best situation so they can succeed. So why

1357
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 2: would I if I had the opportunity to put my

1358
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 2: kids in a situation that I think will.

1359
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: Enhance them or help them succeed. Nah, I'm not gonna

1360
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: do that. I want you to get it out like

1361
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: I did. What kind of sense does that make?

1362
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:09,479
Speaker 3: None at all? So listen, if you don't need twenty

1363
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 3: twenty vision and those in the chat, even if you

1364
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 3: don't like your door, those in the chat, even if

1365
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 3: you don't like Prime, if you have common sense and

1366
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 3: you've been watching and seeing what's going on, you know

1367
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 3: what it is that at this point you know exactly

1368
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 3: what it is. I mean, it doesn't need to be said.

1369
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 3: Even if you feel the players that have gotten drafted before,

1370
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 3: if you feel the players that have gotten drafted before

1371
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 3: your door that at the quarterback position, even if you

1372
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 3: feel there better, even if you do, you still know

1373
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 3: what it is. And if you don't, you just being purposely,

1374
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 3: you purposely be a naive based on a personal vendetta

1375
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 3: that you might have against you know, the Saydas family.

1376
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 3: This has never ever, ever, ever ever been done. I

1377
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 3: never seen saying and people saying he's not good and

1378
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 3: he can play at the next level, like like stop, man, stop.

1379
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 3: You know, quarterback is one of the hardest positions define,

1380
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 3: which is why some teams haven't had success in eons.

1381
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 3: But all of a sudden, he come on now.

1382
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 2: Even got prank called by someone pretending to be from

1383
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 2: an NFL team and said, have to wait a little longer.

1384
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: Man. Whoever did this?

1385
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 7: Man?

1386
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 2: Y'all, y'all, y'all some clowns, bron I.

1387
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: Don't even know why, y'all. I don't even know why

1388
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: you would do that. I don't.

1389
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 2: I mean, at that moment, guy's on edge and you're

1390
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 2: just hoping that you get a call I mean that's

1391
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the call you're really hoping that you get.

1392
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 2: Obviously you want to get it as early as you

1393
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 2: possibly can. But just and then somebody playing on the phone. Really, guys,

1394
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 2: come on man. Sean Payne says he's very surprised Chador

1395
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 2: hasn't been drafted yet. There'll be this chip on his shoulder.

1396
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 2: There'll be this chip on the shoulder. And beware, because

1397
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 2: this guy is gonna play in this league. Uh shoulder

1398
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 2: is in good spirits after not get it drafted the

1399
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 2: day two. God don't make mistakes. Faith in God no

1400
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 2: matter what. Yeah, check this out. Tyler Ship was justin

1401
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 2: Herbert's backup. He's eight days older than Trevor. Lawrence was

1402
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 2: a freshman at Oregon with Bol Bowl. He turns twenty

1403
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,759
Speaker 2: six when the season starts, and he's had three seasons

1404
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 2: that ended an injury. So now you're talking about Ojo.

1405
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 2: Remember I said, does he have an injury history? Does

1406
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 2: he have red flags that we don't know about. Here's

1407
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,799
Speaker 2: a guy that's about to be twenty six, had seasons

1408
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 2: in three different occasions with an injury. All I'm saying,

1409
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 2: y'all chat, take and do with that whatever you like.

1410
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: I think it's right.

1411
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 2: I think we have to o Jo and I when

1412
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 2: we talk sports and we talk, we have to give

1413
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 2: you context. She says, Okay, this guy went here because

1414
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: I'm trying to exp well, Shana. Maybe he has a

1415
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 2: pre conditioned, pre existing condition. Maybe he's there is a

1416
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 2: character issue off the field. Maybe he has some kind

1417
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 2: of a problem. We don't know, but we know one

1418
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 2: guy is about to be twenty six. I don't know

1419
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 2: about you, O Joe, but when I got drafted, I

1420
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 2: was twenty two.

1421
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 1: True, I don't even know what I was. I was

1422
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: twenty two.

1423
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 2: I turned As a matter of fact, I got drafted

1424
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,759
Speaker 2: in April. I was twenty one when I got drafted.

1425
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 2: I turned twenty two in June. This guy's about to

1426
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 2: turn twenty six.

1427
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: Uh, it's.

1428
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 2: There's nothing. There's nothing we can do. We can just

1429
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 2: talk about it and then hope your door makes the

1430
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 2: best of it. Joe, let me ask you this, what

1431
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: do you think what's the equivalent of something like this

1432
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 2: happened in the NBA. Do you know a player that

1433
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 2: was rated extremely high and not only did he fall

1434
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: out of it was supposed to be a lottery pick.

1435
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 1: Maybe a top five lottery pick, slid all the way

1436
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: out of the first round, slid.

1437
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 2: All the way out up the second round because they

1438
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 2: only have two rounds in the NBA, and ended up

1439
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 2: having to become an NBA free agent.

1440
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 6: Uh.

1441
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 7: The one person I can really remember is uh probably

1442
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,560
Speaker 7: Rashard Lewis him sitting in the green room because you know,

1443
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 7: to the draft, and I think he was probably the

1444
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 7: last one in the green room and I think he

1445
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 7: thought he was going lottery and I think he ended

1446
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 7: up going in the second round. Okay, Yeah, that's that's tough, bro.

1447
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,600
Speaker 7: Like I couldn't imagine that. Like it's already anxiety, you know,

1448
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 7: from being in there. They told me I was gonna

1449
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 7: be a top ten pick on Kinocho. So I was invited.

1450
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 7: I was invited to the green room. I'm sitting in there.

1451
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:37,440
Speaker 7: Look even though you know people, people haven't made promises

1452
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 7: and all that, and I'm like, man, you never know, bro,

1453
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 7: you never right, you know what I mean? So uh,

1454
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 7: but it was definitely a surreal feeling, you know, getting drafted,

1455
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 7: getting getting a chance to shake David Stearn's.

1456
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 1: Hand, just a memorable moment for me. And man, I

1457
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: remember it like it was yesterday. Bro.

1458
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 7: But yeah, outside of Rashad, I don't really know, uh

1459
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 7: nobody who's kind of got left back there like that.

1460
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 7: But it's gotta be a tough feeling, you know what

1461
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 7: I mean. And look, Rashad had a great career from that, Bro.

1462
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 7: He probably still wears a chip on his shoulder to

1463
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 7: this day.

1464
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 2: You're probably you're probably right when you look at I

1465
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 2: mean Thurman Thomas Turman. Thurman Thomas ended up falling asleep.

1466
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 2: He thought he was gonna be a first round pick.

1467
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 2: He goes in the second round, Thurmas in the Hall

1468
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 2: of Fame.

1469
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 1: He won.

1470
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 2: He run the m v p uh and I think

1471
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 2: ninety one, so uh yeah, but a precipitous fall like this,

1472
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 2: I can't recall it ever,