1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. I'm just about that action also. 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: Throwing into spec I'm saying it to cash touchdown. 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: We see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: go to wind. That's incredible, big bank, small banks. 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: I like to make money. 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: All right, this is the ultimate kabata and we are 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: What is up? Everyone? Welcome to the Action Network Podcast 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: presented by bet MGM. I'm your host, Chris Raybond, and 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: this is your NFL Week eleven betting preview. We're gonna 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: talk about our favorite sides, totals, teasers, survivor picks, underdog 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: money lines, and of course crack open our weekly Sunday 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: six pack of against the spread bets with the help, 14 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: of course, of my co host, the Prime Minister of 15 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 1: Degenerate Nation, Stucky Stuck good stuff four and two last week. 16 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: I know you're feeling six, so hope you feel better. 17 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: But what's going on? 18 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got apologies to the audience if I'm a 19 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: little briefer than usual, sound a little offense. Yeah, I 20 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: have an awful flu. I always get one around this 21 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: time of the year. Just run down from the grind 22 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: and catch it somewhere and sadly there's no days off. 23 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: Another good week for the podcast, even though, yeah, missed 24 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: extra points. I could deal with college I know that 25 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: they're gonna it's gonna happen sometimes. But the NFL, whenever 26 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: you lose a bat in the NFL by the hook, 27 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: I'm a missed extra point. It's extra brutal. 28 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: Do you know what makes it worse? So, you know, 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: since they moved it back in twenty fifteen, the extra 30 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: point league average went from about ninety nine percent to 31 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: about ninety three ninety four percent every year right until 32 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: this year. This year extra points are getting hit ninety 33 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: seven point five percent quip. That will be the highest 34 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: ever by a mile in the you know, moved back era. 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: So part of that is I think teams are just 36 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: going for two more. That's that makes it hurt even more. 37 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: It's only two and a half percent. 38 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 2: Yeah great, but as always, who cares. We're on to 39 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: week eleven. 40 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: Let's do it before we jump into the Thursday night 41 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: football slate. Just a reminders that no matter what sports 42 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: you like to bet on, Action Network has you covered 43 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: all year round. If you're into betting hockey, check out 44 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: our NHL Betting podcast line change you're like at NBA. 45 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: We've got buckets our NBA pod if you're into college 46 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: football or college hoops coming up Big bets on campus. So, 47 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: so you want to see the full lineup of action podcasts, 48 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: just visit actionnetwork dot Com Slash Podcasts. You can see 49 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: all of them that we have to offer some good 50 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: ones in there. It's Actionnetwork dot Com Slash podcast All right, 51 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: let's get in two Thursday Night Football, Week eleven. It's 52 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: not the best game, but it's the only game tonight. 53 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: Let's bet Thursday Night Football. So we got the Bengals 54 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: going to Baltimore to take on your Ravens. 55 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: It's Baltimore, gentlemen. The gods will not save you. 56 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: Ravens are favored by three and a half. The total 57 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: is sitting around forty six at bet MGM, and would 58 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: love to get your thoughts right off the back, because 59 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody knows Ravens betting better than you. 60 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: So what you got some big injury news that came through, 61 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: which doesn't help the bet. That I sort of like 62 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: and I hate Thursday Night Football, but at least this 63 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: is a good matchup. Is that it looks like Trey 64 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: Anderson's gonna play. I don't think he's gonna play. And 65 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: Rodney Stanley's out, so that's even bigger with the pressure 66 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: that he can generate, although he might not be at 67 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: one hundred percent although I think he was off the 68 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: injury report today. Marlon Humphrey also is probably going to 69 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: be out, and he's probably he's one of the most 70 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: underrated cornerbacks as far as just what he does for 71 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: the entire unit is flexibility and the cornerbacker gets a 72 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: little thin quick. T Higgins is also out for the Bengals, 73 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: which hurts their passing attack a little bit. But Burrow's 74 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: playing extremely well right now. He's one hundred percent healthy. 75 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: I think that he's gonna have a good game here. 76 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: Although the Ravens secondary and Ravens defense in particular with 77 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel. Mike McDonald has caused Burrow some issues. A 78 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 2: lot of the simulated pressures and pre stap stuff that 79 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: the Ravens do. Burrow has struggled when the Ravens defense 80 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: is at full strength. But missing Humphrey, that's going to 81 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: hurt here. On the other side of the ball, the 82 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: Ravens offense, you know, it's had its ups and downs, 83 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 2: and it's in this new scheme. But I've liked what 84 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: I've seen, you know. So there's some games where there's 85 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: been drops. There's other games where there's just red zone issues. 86 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: Lamar and his deep ball hasn't been as cleaned in 87 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: the past couple of games. But I think that they're 88 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: in for a big day here against a Bengals defense 89 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: that I think is a complete fraud. I thought that 90 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: they were, I was lower than the Bengals defense in 91 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: the entire market, even tho I have a lot of 92 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: respect for blu an Arimo, their defensive coordinator. He you know, 93 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: he's very good at making adjustments in game second half 94 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: and using a lot of different defenses. Now it's not 95 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: going to be a predominantly manned defense, which is the 96 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: way that you slow down this Ravens offense this year. 97 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 2: So that works in the raid and savor. But what 98 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: people fail to forget last year two things the Bengals 99 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: faced I think like nine or ten backup quarterbacks, including 100 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: one in the postseason against Baltimore again almost lost if 101 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: the Ravens gonna sneak the ball, and they lost both 102 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: their safeties and they were two really good safeties, and 103 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 2: that provides you a defensive coornator, a good defensive quarter 104 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: that makes adjustments. That provides a defense quarter with so 105 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: much more flexibility because you have that stability on the 106 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: back end, and if you have two really smart veteran 107 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: safeties then you can do so much. So losing both them, 108 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: there's been a big drop off also in the in 109 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: the tackling department, which is one of the reasons why 110 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: you've seen the Bengals, you know, run defense has fallen 111 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 2: off a cliff. They also sti't have much depth along 112 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: the defensive line, so they're just so relyingt on Hendrickson 113 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: and Reader and you know Hubbard's gonna be out here, 114 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: so it's not a really deep, reliable defensive line, which 115 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: hurts them as well. So I think Lamar can have 116 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: success with his legs here and then he could attack 117 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: the secondary, where I think the Ravens will have a 118 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: significant advantage the Bengals defense, even including last week which 119 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: they got torched, they've been living off of lucky turnovers, fumbles, 120 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: red zone luck. Back to that Seattle game. Seattle almost 121 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: doubles them up in yards, doesn't just can't score in 122 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: the red zone for the last two drives of the game, 123 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: and the red zone don't score a single point. You 124 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: go back to the even the Bills game Bills with 125 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: the Fluke fumble in the red zone forty nine ers, 126 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: same thing. They had four hundred and sixty yards of 127 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: offense if you remove turnovers. This Bengals defense bottom five 128 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: overall EPA per play, bottom five drop back EPA. So 129 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: I think the Ravens offense is going to have a 130 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: good night. I think Burrow will do enough to keep 131 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: this close trend wise. You know, Burrow is a dog 132 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: over a field goal, always in an appetising bet, whereas you know, 133 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: taking Lamar Jackson historically, you know, again last week even 134 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: if it was Fluky, taking him as favorite of overfield 135 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: but hasn't worked out. So I would lean Ravens here, 136 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: but not it's not vetable to me. I would I 137 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: would probably bet the ribbons if it's a flat three, 138 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: but I'm probably gonna try out the over for just 139 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: a little bit. Although that's just apparently that's just giving 140 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: away money. Because primetime unders on Island game unders thirty 141 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: and seven when you include international games, think they for 142 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: at eleven in a row it's really unbelievable. But I 143 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: think this this total is a bit depressed. You know, 144 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: both teams can get to twenty four here at least. 145 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: It's tough for me to get get on the over 146 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: just because I mean, for the Bengals, we have Tea 147 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: Higgers out and Chase is kind of banged up. And 148 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: if I had to make a better on this game, 149 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: I would lean Bengals. You know, it's just hard to 150 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: fade Burrow fifteen and two against the spread in his 151 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: career as a dog of a field goal or more, 152 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: he just seems to always on the way. 153 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 2: And this is but if he doesn't have Higgins and 154 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: Chase is banged up and you're still trusting him, that 155 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: means you're counting on the Bengals to score points. 156 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. Like the Bengals defense, it 157 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: hasn't been good, but this Ravens I could still see 158 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: this Ravens offense coming out a little sleepy here. I mean, 159 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: this is what This is what happens on Thursday night games, 160 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: This is what happens in divisional games, and this is 161 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: generally what happens to the Ravens when they are favored. 162 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: You know, I think the handicap is correct, Like the 163 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: Bengals defense is probably overrated in the market, but in 164 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: this division especially, I feel like these trends we you know, 165 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: we've seen them time and time again just play out 166 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: and every time we try to go against them, it 167 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: doesn't really work out. So you know, I mean, I'm 168 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: just saying it's hard to go against fifteen to two. 169 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: For me, this is just AFC North football. I'm just 170 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: gonna enjoy the game, all right. That wraps up Ravens Bengals. 171 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football Now was jumping to the week number 172 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: eleven Sunday six Facts Thursday for Action. Let's crack open 173 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: the Sunday six pack talked about before Good week for 174 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: US four and two thirty seven thirty three. Me and 175 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: I am a first this week. So I will start 176 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: it off with the first pick of the week eleven 177 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: Sunday six pack and go with the Los Angeles Rams 178 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: plus one at home against the Seattle Seahawks. Like the 179 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: Spots and the matchup for the Rams coming off of 180 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: a bye, getting Matthew Stafford back at quarterback, and I 181 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: think that you know, you combine coming off to buy 182 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: with and the Brett Rippon start the game before, and 183 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: I just think, you know, everyone's kind of sleeping on 184 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: the Rams a little bit and doesn't realize that this 185 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: is a pretty pretty even matchup, and the Rams probably 186 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: should be favored by like a half point to a 187 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: point because even if you don't remove even if you 188 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: don't remove the Brett repping game, the Rams have a 189 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: better schedule adjusted point differential than the Seahawks. The Rams 190 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: have the better quarterback, and I mean not just my opinion, 191 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: I think the numbers back it up. This year EPA 192 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: per play Matthew Stafford fifteenth, Gino Smith nineteenth. We saw 193 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: this matchup in Week one. Granted there were some injuries 194 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: on the Seattle side, but it's still notable that the 195 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: Rams outgained the Seahawks four twenty six to one eighty 196 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: and doubled more than doubled them up in first downs 197 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: twenty seven to thirteen. And that was without Hooper cut 198 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: who's going to be back. And I think having Cup 199 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: is big because you know, the Seahawks add Witherspoon to 200 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: the middle of that defense and he has been causing 201 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: some havoc and creating some incompletions and whatnot. But now 202 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: you're talking about one of the best receivers in the game, 203 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: so he's gonna you know, Cup's gonna get some wins 204 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: in there as well. And I think that the strength 205 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: of schedule creates some value as well, because the Rams 206 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: have faced the fourth toughest slate of opposing defenses by DVOA, 207 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: Seattle's face the third easiest, and just in general, if 208 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: you look at the schedule, Seattle's wins have not been 209 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: very impressive. It's the Giants, a bottom five team, the 210 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: Panthers a bottom five team, the Cardinals pre Kyler bottom 211 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: five team. They beat Washington last week, not a bottom 212 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: five team, but you know already had a fire sale, 213 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: not probably bottom ten team at least, and you had 214 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: to win on a field goal as time expired. You 215 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: beat the Browns with PJ Walker by taking the lead 216 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: in the final minutes U and then getting a lucky 217 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: tipball to end it, and then you beat Detroit in overtime, 218 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: so you're really your real only wins of any you know, 219 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: substance are against bottom five teams, and then every other 220 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: winner is like a coin flip where it could have 221 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: gone either way. So I'm not really impressed with the 222 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: Seattle team at all. And that goes back to last 223 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: year when you know, we saw the Seattle team kind 224 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: of played down to its competition, even though they ended 225 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: up getting a playoffs. And I think Gino Smith this 226 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: year hasn't been quite as good as last year. I 227 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: don't want to say he regrets. I just think he's 228 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: kind of who he is. He probably was playing a 229 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: little over his head last year, but he had struggled 230 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: against this Raheem Morrits defense the last two meetings. And 231 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: remember that's this year and we won. And then last 232 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: year at the end of the year when remember Aaron 233 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: Donald was out and like half the defense was out 234 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: as well. I remember at one point you I think 235 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: you had the in that one, and you were just 236 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: like their professionals, like that was your whole It was 237 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: just like their professionals. They'll figure it out. Because that's 238 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: all you really could say. And Gino Smith in those 239 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: last two meetings as completed, has barely completed sixty percent 240 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: of his passes, averaging just five point seven yards in 241 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: attempt on fifty seven attempts, two touchdowns, two interceptions, and 242 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: the Seahawks are averaging just sixteen points per game in 243 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: those two matchups. So I think you know this. I 244 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: think Stafford Cup and Nikua coming off of BUYE McVeigh, 245 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: I think they'll they'll find a way to get it 246 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: done here on offense. And I even though the Rams 247 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: defense isn't great, I do think Geno Smith will have 248 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of trouble on that side. And you know, 249 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: this is the matchup that you want to fade the 250 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: Seahawks and target the Rams. Sean McVay career versus the 251 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: Seahawks and Peak arrow ten and four against the spread, 252 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: covering by an average of five point three points per 253 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: game in the last six meetings, six and oh against 254 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: the spread. So give me the Los Angeles Rams plus one. 255 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: Don't mind it at a pick, don't even mind it 256 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: at a minus one. I think that's that's about as 257 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: far as I go. But love the matchup for LA. 258 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I uh so, I had this when we were 259 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: doing our our draft and in slack I said, you're 260 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: up first this week and then I typed in it 261 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: was it was the Rams second in a row. I think, yep, 262 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: this would have been my first pick. Yeah. McVeigh. He 263 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: used to own mcavage's it's the circle of life in 264 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: n C West. His offenses have always they used to 265 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: always own the old Pete Carroll style defenses. Now they've 266 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: tweaked their scheme a little bit. Big Vey still rips 267 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: them apart. Nine and one against the against the Seahawks 268 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: in the past ten meetings, including the playoffs last year, 269 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: the Seahawks like had to win at the end of 270 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: the year. The Rams are playing with like, you know, 271 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: backup quarterbacks that John who I forget Wolford was, yep, 272 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: Baker maybe was another. And the Seaals won both those 273 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: games by three. Yeah, I think there's a great spot. 274 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: McVeagh also, good offe bye, good off good after a loss. 275 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: You also should get haven't seen back a right tackle 276 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: Ernest Jones back in the middle at linebacker, who's probably 277 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: their second best defender after Aaron Donald. Yeah, I think 278 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: this is a good matchup. I've said before, I think 279 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: that the Seahawks defense is overrated going into that Ravens game. 280 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: I mean, last week Sam how looked like an All Pro. 281 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: I think this defense has major holes and Stafford should 282 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: have a big day. Gino will probably make a mistake 283 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: or two. I like the Rams here too. So for 284 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: my first pick and the second of the week eleven 285 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: Sunday six Pack, I'm going with the Chicago Bears plus nine. 286 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: I believe this is the first time in six pack 287 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 2: history that I've taken the Bears. I don't know if 288 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: that's right, but I don't I can't remember, but I've 289 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 2: ever taken the Bears in the six pack. I'm riding 290 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 2: with your boy Justin Fields, who should return here. So 291 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: why do I like this? Bet? I kind of got 292 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: I had a rough morning, I had rams typed in 293 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 2: and then you responded with the rams I had. I 294 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: logged into one of my books to put in Bears 295 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: plus ten, and I said, let me just I'm gonna 296 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: check one other thing. And I came back two minutes 297 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: later and it was at nine and a half. So 298 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 2: I missed the ten there, but I still like it 299 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: at nine. I bet it at nine and nine and 300 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 2: a half. And why so why do I like the 301 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: Bears here? Well? One, I think this is just a 302 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 2: good Bilo cell high spot. As far as where these 303 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 2: teams sit in the market lines covering machines, we know 304 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: that coming off that crazy win. Credit to Dan Campbell 305 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: for all those fourth down decisions I think needed every 306 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: one of them because their defense wasn't gonna get stops. 307 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: But I think this is probably the peak of the 308 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: Lions market value once again, until they you know, maybe 309 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: they get flattened again or this is a close game. 310 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: But look, the Lions defense as holes. We'll start there. 311 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: The secondary is bad. You know, they they've placed some 312 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: absolute clown car quarterbacks and that have inflated their numbers, 313 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 2: but anytime they face the competent quarterback, especially one that 314 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: can move around, it's disastrous. So the linebackers aren't that fast, 315 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 2: and the way that they're playing mobile quarterbacks, they're so 316 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: worried about them running that they're like not attacking the quarterback, 317 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 2: they're not going after them, and then the quarterbacks end 318 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: up running anyway, and then there's just they can't cover downfield. 319 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 2: It's a disaster. I mean, he saw what happened with 320 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: the Chargers and the Ravens just absolutely ripping their secondary apart. 321 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: So I think Field to I think rush for I 322 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: think like one hundred and sixty one game against the 323 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: Lions last year, should have a big game with his legs, 324 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 2: and I think that he can have some success through 325 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: the air. One of the things that you know, I 326 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: don't know if this has been talked about. I was 327 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 2: reading it on some Bears message board. There was a 328 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: video that came out with Justin Fields and his and 329 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: is in practice and this week, and he was in 330 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 2: his seven step drop. He was getting back like one 331 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: to nine to two seconds. And he was one of 332 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: the slowest quarterbacks in NFL history when he would do 333 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: those long drops and it would end up causing a 334 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: lot of pressure, and he was just so slow to 335 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 2: get back. So someone pointed out and they were timing it, 336 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: and he must have. They must have worked on it, 337 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 2: and that must have been a point of emphasis because 338 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 2: all these dropbacks he was getting back at two seconds, 339 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: which I think is huge because it really hurt their 340 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: passing efficiency. But I think that the Bears overall are 341 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: just generally a bit undervalued right now. And this is 342 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: I just think too many points in a divisional game. 343 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: But the Bears haven't been good this year, but their 344 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: offensive line is now healthy, it's trending in the right direction. 345 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: They're you know, you might get Herbert back, but their 346 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: run game has been very good. Anyway. You know, you 347 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: obviously have com mad you have an upgraded wide receiver room. 348 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: And then on the defensive side of the ball. This 349 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 2: defense historically bad last year, trending that way again earlier 350 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: this season. But they did go out and upgrade the 351 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: defense coming into the air. But they had a ton 352 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: of injuries, right, a ton of injuries in the secondary. 353 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: Secondary is now healthy. Couldn't really get pressure, you know, 354 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 2: before last week against the Panthers, a league low twenty 355 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: two percent pressure rate. But what did they what did 356 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: they do? They went out and they got sweat and 357 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: sweat I think at five pressures the most of any 358 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: Bear of this year. They know it was bright down, 359 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: but they had like a thirty five percent pressure rate 360 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: and it takes attention off of the other defensive linemen. 361 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 2: Their run defense, because of the upgrades at linebacker, the 362 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: signings in the interior, the run defense actually been really good. 363 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: So I think that they can hold up here against Detroit. 364 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: So I think this defense is actually trending in the 365 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: right direction. Getting an edge piece like Sweat could just 366 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 2: do so much for the rest of the defensive line. Yeah, 367 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna be in Gov's face all day. 368 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: The Lions have a great offensive line. But it's not 369 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: gonna be like last week for the Lions, where they 370 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: can just push this Bears D line around and just 371 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 2: run at will like you can do against the Chargers. 372 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: And now with the healthier secondary for the Bears, you know, 373 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: Fields healthy, this little improvement and his drop back against 374 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 2: a bad lines d. I think this is a good 375 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: time to buy in on the Bears, who are coming 376 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: in off of a bit of an extended buy here, 377 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: or you should say, a short buy after playing on Thursday. 378 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, give me the Chicago Bears plus nine at Detroit. 379 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: Damn bro. This is how I know you. I know 380 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: you're feeling under the weather. You just called Justin Fields 381 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: a competent quarterback right off the bat. 382 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. But by the way, like this number, it's just 383 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: home field avanaged the NFL. It's going down and out 384 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: of that it's even lower. I mean, it's all. It's 385 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: so low for a divisional game because you have familiarity indoors, 386 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: like homefield is so low for this specific circumstance. Two 387 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: weeks ago, the Lions closed as six and a half 388 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: point favorites at home in primetime against the Raiders, and 389 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 2: Jimmy g. 390 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: Yep, I'm definitely back in the lines. 391 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,239 Speaker 2: And now one and that closed under a touchdown, and 392 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 2: that was in non home field, means a little bit 393 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 2: more their primetime non conference matchup. The Raiders defense. Right now, 394 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 2: if you compare both of these defenses, they're both not 395 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 2: good defense. But I would take the Bears slightly over 396 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: the Raiders. I would probably take the Bears offense. It's 397 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: close to a wash, basically. I mean, I'm splitting hairs. 398 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 2: These are teams that I have the Bears rated like 399 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 2: a hair better than the Raiders. But I'm getting nine 400 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: here in the divisional matchup, a couple extra days of prep, 401 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: whereas the market was the Raiders six and a half 402 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: of that game. So I think this is too I 403 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: think this should be like seven to seven and a half. 404 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: You saund like me before the season, this is hilarious, 405 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, given you're trying, you. 406 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: Know, I'm gonna go buy. 407 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: Irrationalized irrational love for the Bears defense all called fields confident, 408 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: I mean, what's next, man? But truthfully, I didn't have 409 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: a great feel for I know, I know a lot 410 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: of people are on the uh. I know sharp money 411 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: is on the Bears. I didn't have a great feel 412 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: for it until you broke it down just now. I 413 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: was actually kind of looking more for this to be 414 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: a shootout, you know. Yeah, I am worried about that 415 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: Bears pass defense because their run defense has been pretty solid. 416 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: It's been about week average, but the past defense is 417 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: still bad, so I was I'm kind of thinking that 418 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: this makes the Lions go a little past heavy. And 419 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: the one thing about the Lions that I guess is 420 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: a concern for your bet is just this is pretty 421 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: much now. I guess their second game, having all of 422 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: their offensive pieces, you know, Gibbs Montgomery, the Lions could 423 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: put up a big number of the Bears will have 424 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: to match it. But the Bears have been, you know, 425 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: putting up points. I could see some points being scored here, 426 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: but it is a divisional matchup, so don't hate it. 427 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: Taking the Yeah, I wouldn't mind. 428 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: The lines are smart, which they are, then they probably 429 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 2: will go pass every year and they might you know, 430 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: continue the aggression on fourth down. 431 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: I don't hate it all right. For my second pick 432 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: and the third overall of the week eleven Sunday six pack, 433 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm going with the Minnesota Vikings plus two and a 434 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: half at the Denver Broncos, and surprise, I'm back on 435 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: the Vikings again. I would have thought for sure I 436 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: be selling high now, but you know, the Broncos are 437 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: also kind of riding high right now. And I continue 438 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: to see value in the Vikings relatives to the market, 439 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: because what are you looking for a lot of times 440 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: when you're making these best, especially at this point in 441 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: the season, you're looking for things that maybe aren't fully 442 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: accounted for by the market. And I think with this 443 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: Minnesota Viking team, as much as guys keep getting hurt, 444 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: I still think that they're being undervalued, and specifically in 445 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: this matchup for a couple of reasons. The first is 446 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. The first edge 447 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: is they're the most blitz happy team in the NFL. 448 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: We know that under Ryan Flores, who's done an amazing 449 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: job taking talent that looked like the worst defense in 450 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: the week frankly last year and transforming it into a 451 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: top ten defense. But Russell Wilson one hundred and thirteen 452 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: passer rating when not blitzed, seventy nine passer rating when 453 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: blitzed this year, his thirty four percent drop off in 454 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: passer rating excuse me, thirty four point drop off and 455 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: passer rating is the largest among thirty nine qualified quarterbacks 456 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: against the blitz. He also has the highest pressure to 457 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: sack rate when blitzed among those thirty nine quarterbacks as well, 458 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: and then the number two edge on defense. 459 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: This week, it's butts down. He just bucks down and takes. 460 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: The Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like I feel like 461 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: CC told him just get down, just set yourself, bro, 462 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: Like I don't think she wants him take it too 463 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: many hits or something, because yeah, it's it's really weird. 464 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: It feels like his whole demeanor just kind of change 465 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: in regards to pressure over the last you know, since 466 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: joining Denver. But with that being a said, and I'm 467 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: not here to knock Russ, he's been playing, you know, 468 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: decently enough for them to get back to five hundred. 469 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: He's great touchdown interception ratio, So not not ragging on him, 470 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: but he does struggle against the blitz and hasn't really 471 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: played that many defense. I mean, there is no defense 472 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: that blitz is at this rate. But it's not like 473 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: he's played the Giants or any of those other super 474 00:26:54,440 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: boitz happy teams either. But secondly, this Viking defense can 475 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: stop this Denver running back centric offense. And that's been 476 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: another key for us to survive out here has been 477 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: kind of going through the running that three headed monster, 478 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: and really Javonte Williams now is kind of taking control. 479 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: But you know they're throwing to the backs, they're hand 480 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: into the backs. But Minnesota is seventh on defense in 481 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: EPA per rush alloud and on Denver's win streak this 482 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: you know this just stretch where they beat Kansas City 483 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: and Buffalo and Green Bay. Buffalo nineteenth in e PA 484 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: against the run, Kansas City thirty first and Green Bay 485 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: twenty fifth. So Denver really has it faced a defense 486 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: with this type of scheme. So a lot of people 487 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: may look at Minnesota and say, oh, this is you know, 488 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: Buffalo is always good and Kansas City hasn't a week 489 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: defense this year, and you know Green Bay's I mean, 490 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: they're okay. But people might look at Minnesota as the 491 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: weakest defense they fest faced in the stretch, where whereas 492 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: I actually think it's best defense and the one that's 493 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: gonna give us the most trouble. Minnesota also is top 494 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: ten in DVOA on running back passes and they're giving 495 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: up the fifth fewest schedule justed receiving yards to running backs, 496 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: which is big because Javonte Williams is being targeted on 497 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: over thirty percent of his routes. And then you know, 498 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: more value in the market for Minnesota. It's been I 499 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever seen something like this, but 500 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: it seems like every time Minnesota get somebody hurt, they 501 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: can replace them with out really suffering a major drop off. 502 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: You go from Kirk Cousins, who is top eight in 503 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: EPA per play, you know, in the first eight weeks, 504 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: Josh Dabbs last two weeks with the vikings seventh and 505 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: EPA per play seventh and adjusted EPA per play justin 506 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: Jefferson second in receiving yards for the game he goes down, 507 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Addison becomes a wide receiver one, He's second in touchdowns, 508 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: and TJ. Hockinson is third in catches and eighth and 509 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: first down catches, so you know you're and then we 510 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: have Jordan Hicks. Now he the linebacker. He was playing 511 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: great top twenty linebacker at PFF graded out with a 512 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: seventy six point seven Ivan pace Junior stepped in his 513 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: grade seventy four in the top twenty five as well, 514 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: actually playing better in some facets than Hicks through these 515 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: first ten weeks. So that week that Jarisol went down, 516 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: who was at Quasinberry Who's like a top two tackle 517 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: that week? So it's been it's been crazy, but Minnesota 518 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: is just not suffering those usual like replacement level drop offs. 519 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: Same thing with Alexander Madison. I actually think ty Chandler 520 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: is probably an upgrade at this point over Alexander Madison, 521 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 1: who looks like we to miss with a concussion. But 522 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: on the offense, Erson have a shot that come back. 523 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: He does, but don't I actually don't think he is 524 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: coming back. kJ Osborne should be back. Jaywen Naylor came 525 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: back last week and he had under the radar rookie 526 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: year and played on ninety five percent of the pass 527 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: snaps last week's first came back, So like, yeah, they 528 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: just keep they just keep finding ways to improve even 529 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: though they're down, Like all these guys at femium positions. 530 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: It's it's pretty nuts. But offensively, Minnesota has an edge 531 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: too that I don't really think the market is accounting for, 532 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: and that is that no team in the league play 533 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: actions nearly as much as the Minnesota Vikings. They have 534 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: one hundred and ten play action passes this year. The 535 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: next closest team is eighty two. And so this is 536 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: like on defense, they blitzed more than anyone. On offense, 537 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: they play action more than anyone. Well, the defense who 538 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: ranks last and passive rating against the play action the 539 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. The defense who ranks last a completion percentage 540 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: against play action, the Denver Broncos. Everyone's saying the Denver 541 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: Broncos turned around their defense, right, you know, starting in 542 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: Week six, you know, last last half of the season, 543 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: they turned it around. Quarterback numbers with play action since 544 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: their supposed turnaround Week six, Patrick Mahomes only play action 545 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: on thirteen percent of his dropbacks five of six one 546 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: hundred yards seventeen yards in attempt, one hundred and nineteen 547 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: passer rating. Week seven, Jordan Love play action on thirty 548 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: percent of his dropbacks nine of nine for ninety yards, 549 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, no picks, ten yards in attempt, one hundred 550 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: and forty eight passer rating. Wee kate back to Mahomes 551 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: only pay actioned on eighteen percent of his dropbacks five 552 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: and seven for seventy four yards just under eleven yards 553 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: per attempt, passer rating of one oh six when he 554 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: didn't play action, five point four yards an attempt at 555 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: a passer rating of forty nine. And then Josh Allen 556 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: on Monday Night play action on twenty two percent of 557 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: his dropbacks eight point six yards in attempt, a passer 558 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: rating of one oh two point five when he did 559 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: it six point four, and a passer rating of forty nine. 560 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: So Minnesota has, on both sides of the ball, the 561 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: perfect scheme to end this Denver Bronco win streak and 562 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: continue their own. So even though I thought for sure 563 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: i'd be fading the Vikings when you know they just 564 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: keep on winning games, beating teams covering spreads, I think 565 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: they have some key matchup advantages here that are not 566 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: being taken into account by the market. And you also 567 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: got road dogs historically under a touchdown going up against 568 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: the home favorite on short rest like the Broncos ninety 569 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: one sixty four and three fifty nine percent against the 570 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: spread since two thousand and eight. So I haven't put 571 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: it in the app yet. I'm waiting to see if 572 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: we get a three. I know some money's been coming 573 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: in on the Broncos, and it is a Sunday night game, 574 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: so there is we got some time to wait. But 575 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: like it at two and a half, like it at two, 576 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: give me the Vikings. 577 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I will push back in the Broncos 578 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: have turned around their defense. I mean, you put mcmillion 579 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: in that slot, you benched matthis for Moro, got Browning back, 580 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: ont Jones back, but it's still not a great defense. 581 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 2: It's just not Yeah. 582 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm not always trying to knock it, but 583 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like there's one facet which happens to 584 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: be with the Vikings specialize in that they haven't turned 585 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: it around. 586 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. And one of the reasons I loved the Broncos 587 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: on Monday Night was that Russ has been so good 588 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: against zone and then when he's not blitzed. I was 589 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: concerned that the Bills were gonna incessantly blitz and they 590 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: ended up doing it like at the worst time. But 591 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 2: you know you can count on the Vikings the blitz. Yeah. 592 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 2: I don't hate it all more in this game later. 593 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: But for my second pick and the fourth overall the 594 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: week eleven Sunday six pack, I'm going with the Houston 595 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: Texans minus five against the Arizona Cardinals. I mean, CJ. 596 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 2: Shroud is the truth. He's already a top ten quarterback 597 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 2: in my eyes. I think in year or two be 598 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: a top five quarterback. I mean maybe by the end 599 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: of the year he's that good. I've seen what I've 600 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 2: needed to see. And there's a lot of times when 601 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 2: you get a rookie quarterback, is this good rarely happens. 602 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 2: He arguably the best. If he continues on this trailer, 603 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 2: they love the best rookie quarterback season in the history 604 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: of the NFL. There's you know the way that odds 605 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 2: makers pure number modelers, which I just never think that 606 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 2: you should can use the cap NFL doing just you know, 607 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 2: pure numbers. I think the best approach is combining you know, matchups, 608 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 2: your numbers, and then you know, some subjective input as well. 609 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: But a lot of those old models, the guys who 610 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 2: just run on models, they are slowly adjust with a 611 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: rookie quarterback because historical rookie quarterbacks are going to struggle, 612 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 2: and you don't want to price a rookie quarterback as 613 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 2: if he's already like a top five to ten quarterback. 614 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 2: I think that's the case. So I think that I'm 615 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 2: I'm going back to the Texans and you there are 616 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 2: there are some big, big groups out there that do 617 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 2: have more subjective and we saw it last week. The 618 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 2: Texans just got hammered down to what four and a 619 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 2: half five on game day against the Bengals and then 620 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: one out right, So I think Straud's that good. And 621 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: if you look at these teams, so I just think 622 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: the Texans are generally undervaled and probably will be for 623 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 2: a bit. Stroud is playing out of his mind. There's 624 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: the offensive line is now healthy. And if you look 625 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: at these two teams, yeah, the Cardinals. The only thing 626 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: I'm wright about is like a little bit of a 627 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 2: letdown for a younger team, but you're gonna get home. 628 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: And I just don't know how the Cardinals can stop them. 629 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: This is one of the worst secondaries in the league. 630 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 2: They had no corners we can match up and they 631 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 2: can't get the pressure. One of the lowest pressure rates, 632 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 2: lowest witz rates in the NFL. And if you, I 633 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 2: just if you look at these two rosters, I mean, 634 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 2: let's look at the important position groups. Offensive line, Texans 635 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 2: of the advantage by a mile. Secondary Texans by a mile. 636 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: And now that their safeties a you remember earlier in 637 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 2: the year they were playing with that whole bunch of 638 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 2: backup offensive linemen without their safety. There's two starting safeties 639 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: and I really love uh. I mean Jimmy Ward's reliable 640 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 2: safety and I love Petrie at the other safety spot. 641 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 2: They were both hurt earlier this season, and their corners, 642 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 2: and this whole defense is really rounding into the form 643 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 2: other important positions. Wide receivers mean the Texans uh. And 644 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 2: then edge rush but well, called a wash. That's probably 645 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 2: the one he got Boodha Baker, but that's probably the 646 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 2: one strength of the Cardinals. D I like go Jalai. 647 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 2: He's playing well. Guard Deck is playing well too, but 648 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: you know you will Anderson and Gernard are also playing well. 649 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 2: We'll call that a wash. Like this, the Texas are 650 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 2: significantly better than the Cardinals. And quarterback I'm taking Shroud 651 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 2: over uh Kyler, And you know, Kyler looked good and 652 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: he looked healthy last week, but he also just doesn't 653 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 2: have the same tools and offensive line around him. And 654 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: Stroud is just that good right now. So uh, this 655 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 2: this Cardinals team, you know, they got a cute win 656 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 2: over the Falcons. And by the way, that Falcons D 657 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 2: is not good. And now without Grady Jarrett was getting 658 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 2: double team more than any player in the NFL, opening 659 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 2: up everything else. They were without your model as well. 660 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 2: Falcons D is bad. This Texans D is better than 661 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 2: But look, we saw the Cardinals are gonna have you know, 662 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,399 Speaker 2: two or three wins this year. We saw them beat 663 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 2: the Cowboys and then they just got flattened every single 664 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 2: week since then. That was what Josh Dobbs two is playing. Well, 665 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 2: this is a bad team. This is the worst team 666 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 2: in the NFL for my numbers, besides for Tommy DeVito 667 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 2: lead Giants. So I think it's a cheap number for 668 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,439 Speaker 2: the Texans and the Shroud who's just Undervale in the market. 669 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 2: It's that simple for me, gim me Houston. 670 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was kind of going back and forth on this. 671 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 1: I might end up joining you, you know, one of 672 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: like the pure number models I had, you know, put 673 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: this number closer to the seven and favor of the Texans. 674 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: But there's just so much uncertainty for me really on 675 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: both sides. 676 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 2: I'm like six and a half seven, six to seven. 677 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: I think I can't knock get but for me, it's 678 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: just there's a little bit like there's a lot of 679 00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: lot more uncertainty in that projection than you know, than 680 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 1: most that I project because on one side, I still 681 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what to make of this Texan team's consistency, 682 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,240 Speaker 1: and that goes on both sides of the ball really, 683 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: and you kind of mentioned the wet down spot, which 684 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: which adds to it. But remember I've been on the 685 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: Texans since early in the season too. I had them 686 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: against the Jags and I went right back to him 687 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh when not many people are on that island 688 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: with me, and they end up winning thirty to six, 689 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: and then I go back to them with third week 690 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: in a row when I'm based an underdog, like it's 691 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: all it's all you know, it's all value. So it's 692 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm not as worried. But and like on the Arizona side, 693 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm still not sure exactly. I know the defense is bad, obviously, 694 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: I just don't know exactly how to power rate this 695 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: offense or I'm not is I think there's some you know, 696 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: there's more error in that in my rating than it 697 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: would be there would be in a normal one, just 698 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: because we only had one game for Kiro in the 699 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: new system. It came against a bad Falcons defense, but 700 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: that was also a Falcons defense that the Texas always 701 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: scored nineteen against. And then this offense was a top 702 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: ten offense for the first month of the season with 703 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: Josh Dabbs. Is that just because Josh Dobbs is a 704 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: lot better than we realized too, So there's just a 705 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: lot of moving parts. 706 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 2: I would don't mind the over here, but I think 707 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a higher scoroing game, which makes me 708 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 2: less esse than it the back of the favorite. 709 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: No, it makes sense. It makes sense, all right, So 710 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: wrap it up. We got a fun one here because 711 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: we don't often do this, but we're gonna go head 712 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: to head on a pick so, which we can do 713 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: for the contest as long as we're on opposite side. 714 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: So the one thing we can't do is pick the 715 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: same side. So we're on the opposite side of a 716 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: hilarious game. For my third pick in the fifth overall 717 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: of the week eleven Hoday six pack, I'm going with 718 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers plus one at the cleaven Browns. I 719 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: already know why you're on the opposite side. And I 720 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: can't say I disagree with the reasoning. I mean, the 721 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: Steers have been by far by fall, the luckiest team 722 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: in the national foot. 723 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 2: A week twins YEA by one possession, all on comeback 724 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 2: fashion outgained the never game only team in NFL street 725 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 2: in every game through nine weeks with a winning record, 726 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 2: and their six and three. 727 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: Frauds complete complete frauds. But yet, and this is and 728 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: this is where I this is why I like the 729 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: Steelers even even though they've been frauds. They just got 730 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: lucky again. They just got lucky again, like before the 731 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 1: week before they stepped on the field, They've gotten lucky 732 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: again twice twice in my opinion. Because Number one Deshaun 733 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: Watson is announced out for the year. Okay, fine, you've 734 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 1: already he's already been in it out. But then it's 735 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: announced that they're gonna start Drian Thompson Robinson, and I 736 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: like him. I liked him in the preseason, but it 737 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: was it was rough for him, uh in his first start, 738 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: and I just I just don't think that going up 739 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 1: against a stealer of Mike Tomlins Steeler d with Watt healthy, 740 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: with Hayward healthy on that front, with your tap both 741 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,280 Speaker 1: of your tackles out. You know, conference on IR Wills 742 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 1: is on Ir Dwan Jones didn't practice, Wyatt Teller didn't practice. 743 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: So with a bang up line going against t J. 744 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: Watt and Hayward and company and his steer defense and 745 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: looking as bad as he looked in his first start 746 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 1: in the only sample we have of him in live 747 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: NFL action, I know it was against a great Ravens D, 748 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 1: but the Steers D is not far us. The steers 749 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 1: the is a top ten defense in its own right, 750 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: top ten and pressu rate top ten, sacrate, top ten, 751 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 1: Indjustice Sacerate. I just don't think it's a good look 752 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: for him, And there is a big drop off between, 753 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, the levels of these quarterbacks. So because obviously 754 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: Canny Pickett is bad in his own right and Deshaun 755 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: Watson wasn't wasn't great. So forty five quarterbacks have had 756 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: at least as many plays as DTR this year. He 757 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 1: ranks forty fifth of forty five in EPA per play 758 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: at negative point four nine. That means every time he 759 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: takes a snap, he's essentially losing the Browns at half 760 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,919 Speaker 1: a point. That's not good. Now, for comparison's sake, he's 761 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: forty fifth, right, Deshaun Watson was twenty ninth, so he 762 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: wasn't great. Can you Pickett thirty fourth? PJ Walker fortieth, 763 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: So you're going from like Watson kind of came alive 764 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: against the Ravens, fine Picket, not good, Walker even worse, 765 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: dtr bottom of the barrel. Now Cleveland's and Cleveland's defense 766 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: is a weit. So that's what they have going for them. 767 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: But I just can't get I can't not take the 768 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: opportunity to fade what who has been the worst quarterback 769 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: in the league this year, third stringer worse EPA than 770 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: de Veto Way in points. So give me the Pittsburgh Steelers. 771 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: And as we record this, Pittsburgh still plus one at BETTERMGM. 772 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: There's still dog at a lot of spots. And you know, 773 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: that's another one of these things we talked about these 774 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: AFC North This AFC Norse Football Mike tom wins sixty 775 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: five percent against the spread as a dog fifty five 776 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: and twenty nine, twenty nine and fifteen sixty nine percent 777 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: as a dog coming off a win, fifteen and four 778 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: seventy nine percent as a dog without Ben Roethlisberger thirty 779 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: eight and fourteen seventy three percent as a dog against 780 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 1: an opponent with an equal or better straight up win 781 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 1: loss records. So they got the underdog trends iner side, 782 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: you got a terrible quarterback winning points. I respect the defense, 783 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: but give me steeers. 784 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I completely disagree here. I was so happy 785 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 2: when Watson. I wasn't happy that Watson was got hurt, 786 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 2: but from a betting perspective, when it came out Watson 787 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 2: is going to be out for the year, I said, 788 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm gonna get the Browns under three now, 789 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 2: and that's all I wanted because I was not going 790 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 2: to lay over three in an AFC North game between 791 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 2: these two defenses with a total of I will probably 792 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 2: close like thirty six. 793 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: I started down like thirty three and a half. 794 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 2: To like thirty three thirty two, I'd be so I 795 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 2: was very happy. And then, believe it or not, I 796 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 2: was happy when they announced that TTR would start. So 797 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 2: you mentioned GTR's numbers. The I mean I basically book, Yeah, 798 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 2: he's the worst. Me play threw a bunch of picks 799 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 2: and uh, in one game, we'll start one game. That's 800 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. We already know, and we already know 801 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 2: how bad PJ. Walker is. Like, out of forty nine 802 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 2: quarterbacks with at least thirty plays this year, here are 803 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 2: the bottom three and EPA plus completion percentage over expectation. 804 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 2: Forty seventh is de Veto negative point oh two five. 805 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 2: Forty eight is Walker negative point oh four to two. 806 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 2: Forty nine is Ripping negative point oh seven to three. 807 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 2: DTR is forty third. But I don't care. I mean, 808 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,240 Speaker 2: there's one starting. Three bunch picks pick at this fortieth 809 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 2: behind mac Jones, one spot ahead of the one of 810 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 2: going only Zach Wilson DTR found out he was starting 811 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 2: the day of the game. And he's a rookie. He 812 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,479 Speaker 2: didn't know he was starting until the morning of the game. 813 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: I actually heard that was false. I actually heard he 814 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: misspoke on that. I already knew he was starting. He 815 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 1: just didn't know like he that was. That was a 816 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: whole ado about nothing like he He took rep he 817 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: took first team reps in practice, like he knew he 818 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: was gonna start. He knew he was regardless that your 819 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 1: point is taking you for us. 820 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,720 Speaker 2: He got he got his beak wet and the Ratons 821 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 2: defense is better than the Steelers defense. And I mean, look, 822 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 2: look the Steelers defense, their their secondary is attackable. I mean, 823 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 2: if Jordan Love came to life. Last week, Packer moved 824 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 2: up and down the field like I could go. I 825 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 2: could go on and on about the regression that's coming 826 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 2: for the Steelers. They've been so lucky and every I 827 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 2: mean every game just drops and last week they don't 828 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,720 Speaker 2: get they you don't get a clear defensive touchdowns called. 829 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 2: But I don't care. The only thing the Browns need 830 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 2: to do in this game, so I think dr actually 831 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 2: and I liked Tjr. Com out of college. I think 832 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 2: he has a little bit more upside than Walker in 833 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 2: this game. Yeah, can use his legs and but I 834 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 2: don't don't. I personally would not use the quarterback in 835 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 2: this game. Was the Browns, I would. The best get 836 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 2: in this game by far is the Browns defense hen 837 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 2: Georza Kenny Pickett is. Matt Ryan has more touchdown passes 838 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 2: than Kenny Pickett for the past two seasons. And the 839 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 2: I would I would just use a punter. I would 840 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 2: come out and I wouldn't even run it on first, second, 841 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,280 Speaker 2: and third down and then you would get Steelers voodoo 842 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 2: and like a fumble, you want to maximize the amount 843 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 2: of time that Kenny Pickett has the ball against his defense. 844 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 2: I would punt it on first down every single possession. 845 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,879 Speaker 2: And if they do that and they don't turn it over, 846 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 2: don't even look. All the regression could come at once 847 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 2: for the Steelers. That's coming. And this is one of 848 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 2: the worst offenses in the NFL, one of the worst quarterbacks, 849 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 2: one of the worst schemed offenses, and they've just been 850 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 2: winning with voodoo. This is this They've played like a 851 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 2: two and seventeen and they're six and three. But I 852 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 2: just all I need is no flue turnovers. If there 853 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,919 Speaker 2: was ever a team that was due to not get any. 854 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 2: So I think the Browns are gonna come out here 855 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 2: for the reason this total is dropping, and they're gonna say, Okay, 856 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 2: we saw what happened in the first start. I think 857 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen is they're just gonna run. They're just 858 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 2: gonna run it, and they're gonna run in the walls. 859 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 2: Steelers run defense is better with Hayward back, so they're 860 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 2: not gonna have much success doing it. And then every 861 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 2: once in a while, they're gonna take a deep, deep 862 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 2: shot down you know, the sidelines and where if you 863 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 2: turn it over, it's not a big deal. I doubt 864 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 2: you're gonna see them throw in the middle of the 865 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 2: field much. You'll probably have some designed runs for dtr. 866 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 2: The entire game plan for the Browns has to be 867 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,919 Speaker 2: don't turn it over, don't turn it over, don't turn 868 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 2: it over. Rely on that defense and the So you 869 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 2: have these two offenses that won't be able to do anything. 870 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 2: I trust the Browns defense more at home to make 871 00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:02,399 Speaker 2: more plays essentially, And yes, I'm riding with the Browns day, 872 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 2: hoping that the Steelers regression comes. But even if it doesn't, 873 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 2: the Browns still win this game. So yeah, give me 874 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 2: a Cleveland minus one. Let's go head to head on 875 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 2: another Browns game. Barely happens. 876 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,919 Speaker 1: Oh, it's always the Browns somehow, always the Brown bro 877 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: always the Dan Brown's all right, that's gonna do it. 878 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,720 Speaker 1: For the week eleven Sunday six pack. Just to recap, 879 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 1: Stuck has the Bears plus nine, the Texans minus five, 880 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: and the Browns minus one. I have the Rams plus one, 881 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: Vikings plus two and a half, and the Steelers plus one. 882 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 1: Now it's time for the Week e eleven Coaches pep Talk. 883 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,439 Speaker 2: This is by far the worst team that has ever 884 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 2: sat in this locker room. 885 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: There's not one of you, not one of you win. 886 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 1: This week's coaches pep Talk comes to us from the 887 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 1: twenty eleven film Margin Call, and we're dedicating it to 888 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. 889 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,240 Speaker 2: Thank you all for coming in a little early this morning. 890 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 3: I know yesterday was pretty bad, and I wish I 891 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 3: could say that today is going to be less so, 892 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 3: but that isn't going to be the case. 893 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,280 Speaker 2: The party's over as of this morning. 894 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 3: Obviously, this is not going down the way that any 895 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 3: of us would have hoped, but the ground is shifting 896 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 3: below our feet and apparently there's no other way out. 897 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 3: Have faith that in the bigger picture, our skills have 898 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 3: not been wasted. We have accomplished much, and our talents 899 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 3: have been used for the greater good. 900 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 2: Get to work. 901 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: It's the best of luck to the Bills in Week eleven. 902 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: All right, time for our favorite total of the week. 903 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:51,280 Speaker 1: Got a rebound from last week both with on our totals. 904 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 1: Where are you going my Faber total? 905 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to go with the Raiders Dolphins under forty 906 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,240 Speaker 2: six and a half. You got the machine Dolphins taking 907 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 2: on the under. Raiders are just an underbetter's best friend. 908 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 2: They play on offense, they play like they want to 909 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 2: hit the under and on defense all they want to 910 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 2: do is take away the explosive play and that's it 911 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 2: and they just want to shorten games. So what's gonna 912 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 2: win out here? Well, I think that the way that 913 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,439 Speaker 2: the Raiders play, they can have some success and slow 914 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 2: down the Dolphins. And what I think the counter is 915 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 2: gonna be the Dolphins are going to go just run 916 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,839 Speaker 2: heavier than usual here and the off success doing that, 917 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 2: but it'll just take a little bit longer. And I 918 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 2: think the most underrated unit in this game for this 919 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 2: total is the Dolphins defense. I think the Dolphins defense 920 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 2: all foot by right, new scheme, complex scheme under Fangio, 921 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 2: takes some time and they've gotten guys back. I think 922 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 2: this defense is only going to continue to trend up. 923 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 2: That's what's going to make the Dolphins a serious player 924 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. So this has like thirty one to 925 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 2: ten written all over it. Reason Dolphins are taking money here, 926 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that the Raiders will make the 927 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,240 Speaker 2: Dolphins work for it. I don't see the Raiders offense 928 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 2: doing much. Give me the under forty six and a half. 929 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Raiders have been very good at limiting those 930 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 1: explosive plays, so that kind of plays. 931 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 2: Good in the red zone too, So yeah, under forty 932 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 2: six and a half there for mine. 933 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Jet Bills first half under nineteen 934 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 1: and a half at BETAMGM it's twenty most places, doesn't 935 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 1: matter for the contest, so we go at nineteen and 936 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: a half. But obviously the Bills are a little bit 937 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: out of sorts offensively and defensively they're banged up. So 938 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,760 Speaker 1: the reason I like the first half is I think 939 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: what you're gonna see with McDermott, you know, making the 940 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 1: call to fire Ken Dorsey, is I think you're gonna 941 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: see a little bit more of a controlled Bill's offense. 942 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 1: Never a fast offense in the first half. They were 943 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,839 Speaker 1: outside of twenty in first half pace, But I think 944 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna see maybe a little bit more running the football. 945 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 1: They could activate Leonard Fournette for the first time. James Cook, 946 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,399 Speaker 1: you know, ran well, but he was fumbling a lot. 947 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 1: But I think the Bills are gonna try to get 948 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 1: back on track by not just trying to get it 949 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: on one play, because that's a lot of times what 950 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,319 Speaker 1: Josh Allen looks to do and what I think gets 951 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: him in trouble. And I'm sure Sean McDermot agrees, and 952 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 1: that's why Josh Allen has led the league in turnovers 953 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen and twenty twenty and 954 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 1: twenty one and twenty two. So I think you're just 955 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,760 Speaker 1: gonna see a more controlled offensive even if the Bills 956 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 1: do score. I think you're going against this Jet defense 957 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,320 Speaker 1: that's one of the top defenses in the league. I 958 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 1: think you're gonna see. I think they're gonna have to 959 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 1: take some longer drives here. I think the Jets are 960 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,879 Speaker 1: going to be able to kind of make them work 961 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,840 Speaker 1: for it, and you should put it on the ground 962 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 1: against the Jet defense. So we hope that the we'll 963 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:01,959 Speaker 1: go back to that. Maybe you'll get some more Josh 964 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,839 Speaker 1: Allen run plays. But I think what they're definitely going 965 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 1: to try to do is win with the turnover. So 966 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 1: I think for a first half under that's actually good. 967 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,399 Speaker 1: You just want these teams kind of driving down the field. 968 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 1: Hopefully you can make a stop in the red zone 969 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 1: or two, and then you know the Bills defense has 970 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 1: been obviously very banged up, but you're going against a 971 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: Jet offense that's thirty second and third down conversion rate 972 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,320 Speaker 1: at twenty five percent and thirty second in red zone 973 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: conversion rate at twenty three percent. So in the first half, 974 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 1: you know those things, you know you can make some stops. 975 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 1: Jets probably settle for three. It's the second half I'm 976 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 1: a little more worried about because you do have a 977 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: really talented quarterback who's willing to still go down the field, 978 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 1: and some talented receivers, and you know, both quarterbacks are 979 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 1: liveble to turn the ball over, and you know if 980 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 1: they're kind of backed up, I have to go for 981 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 1: and all those things. So I think the first half 982 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 1: is a little bit safer in this one. The full 983 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: game is forty. The first half is twenty or nineteen 984 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 1: and a half, So going first half under Jets Bills 985 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:16,880 Speaker 1: and hoping the Bills attempt some long scoring drives or 986 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 1: just get shut down by this top tier Jet pass defense. 987 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jets offense is not going to take advantage of 988 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 2: this Bill's defensive problems. No quarterback has done anything against 989 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 2: the Jets. D and Allen has historically seen ghosts against 990 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 2: the Jets ten career starts against New York ten interceptions, 991 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,359 Speaker 2: nine touchdowns, sacked twenty four times, rating of seventy nine. 992 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, I like this one. 993 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 1: So I got Jets bills under first half under nineteen 994 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 1: and a half, stuck as Dolphins Raiders under forty six 995 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: and a half. Now it's time for our favorite teaser 996 00:55:52,080 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 1: of the week. Oh yeah, six point teasers don't tease me. 997 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 1: Stuck is going eight and two on this show this 998 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 1: year on his teasers, I'm at six and four. So 999 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 1: as a pod, we're fourteen and six, so pretty pretty good. 1000 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,800 Speaker 1: But Stuck, where are you going for a week eleven? 1001 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I'm gonna go. You're There's not a ton 1002 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 2: of ideal teaser pieces. One of them is Minnesota lower 1003 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 2: total get them from you know, crossing three and seven, 1004 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 2: which is ideally what you want to do. So we're 1005 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 2: gonna go with the Vikings and then I'm gonna throw 1006 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 2: the Bills in there. Lower total going from seven to spread, 1007 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,240 Speaker 2: I make over seven seven and a half. So really 1008 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 2: for my numbers, I'm crossing seven and three go to one. 1009 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 2: I think this, But look the Buffalo. I've been fading 1010 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 2: the Bills for five weeks on this I've been I 1011 00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 2: have a fading I faint the Bills every week on 1012 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 2: the show or Monday Night. Last week because of their defense, 1013 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 2: I didn't think that the market was properly accounting for 1014 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 2: the drop off to the replacement players. And now you're 1015 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 2: hearing all the commentary Bills, Bills are done, Micky Turbot's 1016 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 2: gonna go. Allen's a fraud. It's over people. Now everyone's 1017 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 2: gonna try and fade the Bills. It's time to buy 1018 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 2: the Bills. I don't want to lay seven here what 1019 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 2: should be a lower scoring game, given Allen's troubles against 1020 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 2: the Jets and how good the Jets defenses. But I 1021 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 2: think the Bills will win this game at home. Good 1022 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 2: bounce back spot and if I like what I see 1023 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 2: from the coordinator and some of the play calling changes. Well, 1024 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 2: the offense wasn't a problem. There's I mean, it was 1025 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 2: a little bit off. There's just a lot of turnovers, 1026 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 2: some freaky but if they clean it up a little 1027 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 2: bit here, another by spot next week at in Philly. 1028 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 2: But we'll talk about that next week. But now it's 1029 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 2: time to buy the bills see if they bottomed out. 1030 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 2: So Bill's Vikings. 1031 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go Vikings as well, and I'll pair of 1032 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 1: them with the Rams going from one to seven. Not 1033 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 1: really many other pieces I like either, and don't want 1034 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 1: us one hundred percent invested on the bills in case 1035 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 1: Josh Allen has another one of his disastered. I still 1036 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 1: don't know how the Jets are going to score, but 1037 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: I mean maybe it's off of Josh Allen turnover. So 1038 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 1: we'll just diversify a little. I'll just go with the 1039 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 1: Vikes and the Rams, both of them, of which I 1040 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 1: talked about already. So let's jump right into our underdog 1041 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 1: money line parlay. But first, as a reminder, the Action 1042 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 1: Network podcast is presented by Bett MGM and you can 1043 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 1: use bonus code Action Act IOWAN when signing up to 1044 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: get up to fifteen hundred dollars paid back in bonus 1045 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 1: bets if your first bet loses. 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Already covered this early in 1055 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 2: the episode. I make them one one and a half 1056 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,120 Speaker 2: point favorite. Like the spot, like the matchup. Let's go 1057 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,600 Speaker 2: with the Rams. 1058 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,919 Speaker 1: I go with the Green Bay Packers plus one thirty 1059 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 1: five against the Chargers at home. You know, this Packer 1060 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 1: team has been somewhat unlucky, and I think Jordan Love 1061 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 1: is starting to to play better. You know, I like 1062 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: some of what I'm seeing from him. I knew he 1063 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 1: threw two more picks at the end of that game 1064 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh, but that put him in a tough spot 1065 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 1: with the missed extra point creating that four point deficit, 1066 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 1: so he had to keep kind of trying to get 1067 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 1: touchdowns and seeing you know, Christian Watson didn't do him 1068 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 1: any favors on a tipball. They're playing D'antavian Wixmore, he's 1069 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 1: starting to emerge, so maybe maybe you have to rely 1070 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,600 Speaker 1: on Watson Less, who seems to be a bit turnover prone. 1071 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 1: You know, I think there's like five interceptions targeting him 1072 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 1: this year for love and not really creating those touchdowns 1073 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,000 Speaker 1: like he was for Aaron Rodgers last year. So you know, 1074 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 1: read is playing well. This Charger defense is bad, so 1075 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 1: I think the Packers can have some success there, and 1076 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 1: then you know, the Packers run defense being shaky doesn't 1077 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 1: necessarily come into play against the Chargers as much as 1078 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 1: it would for most teams because the Chargers, even with 1079 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 1: their injuries, are still gonna put it in the hands 1080 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: of Justin Herbert. So you know, Chargers they can win 1081 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 1: any game, they can lose any game because they're always 1082 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 1: playing close games. So give me the Packers, all right. 1083 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 1: If you parlay Rams minus one five Packers plus one 1084 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 1: thirty five, get parlay odds of about three plus three sixty. 1085 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,600 Speaker 1: Now it is time four the best of the rest 1086 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 1: games we haven't covered in any other segment, but are still, 1087 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 1: as they say, meaningful to some That's going to be 1088 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 1: a touchdown, but that may be meaningful to some of you. 1089 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, first off, we got the 1090 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:38,840 Speaker 1: Giants going to Washington to take on the Commanders. Commanders 1091 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,440 Speaker 1: favored by nine and a half. The total is thirty seven. 1092 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 1: You know, and our Happy Hour show stuck. A couple 1093 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 1: of people were asking about, you know, take the Giants 1094 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,439 Speaker 1: and the points. I think somebody even mentioned some giant 1095 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,439 Speaker 1: money line you said, mixing the water. I don't think 1096 01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 1: like if the Giants are ever to to randomly win 1097 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 1: a game with this terrible situation they got going, I 1098 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 1: do think the Commanders would be succeptible. Remember they came 1099 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 1: out and got doubled up by the Bears forty to twenty. 1100 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 1: This command scene seems to be able to play up 1101 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,439 Speaker 1: and down to anybody. So I'm not really touching this one. 1102 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,640 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be surprised if some wonky goes on 1103 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 1: in this one, or the Commanders could just win like 1104 01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 1: thirty five nothing. But that's why I'm staying away. 1105 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 2: What do you think? Yeah, I make this right on. 1106 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 2: I like what I've seen from how lately is timing 1107 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 2: in the pocket getting rid of the ball quicker, and 1108 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 2: I've also liked what I've seen against the Blitz all year. 1109 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 2: And that's when you can just make quick decisions and 1110 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,200 Speaker 2: it's gonna get a heavy blitz here against the Giants. 1111 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,800 Speaker 2: But I'm right on market and I'm not. I'm not 1112 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,440 Speaker 2: laying ten here, but I'm not betting Tommy DeVito. You 1113 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 2: have to give me, I don't know, fourteen and a half. 1114 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 2: So if this line moves to fourteen and a half, 1115 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 2: I'll take the Giants pass. I hope I see zero 1116 01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 2: plays in that game. 1117 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 1: Washington was one for fifteen on third down a few 1118 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 1: weeks ago in that loss to the Giants. In met 1119 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 1: Life Bucks at forty nine ers Niners favored by eleven 1120 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 1: and a half to total forty one and a half. 1121 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,560 Speaker 1: Some sharp money coming in on the under here. The 1122 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 1: Bucks have been playing. They played a really high scoring 1123 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 1: game against Houston Indoors, but outside of that, it's been 1124 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 1: a lot of these twenty to six type games for them. 1125 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 1: But I don't really see them doing much here though. 1126 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 1: Their run defense is kind of back to where where 1127 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,919 Speaker 1: we expect, which is helpful against the forty nine ers. 1128 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,959 Speaker 1: But do you what do you see with this one? Yeah? 1129 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 2: I think that the way does the forty nine ers 1130 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 2: play defense good spell trouble now, especially now that you 1131 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 2: have Chase Young to compliment both. On the other side, 1132 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:05,440 Speaker 2: get natural pressure against the Bucks play with a lot 1133 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,920 Speaker 2: of d bacs, different looks in the back end. You 1134 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 2: could see a lot of bigger mistakes here. Thinky Basis 1135 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 2: have to avoid some pretty mistakes throwing into some zones. 1136 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 2: But fort nine is back healthy. It's hard for me 1137 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 2: to see a path for the Bucks, but I'm pretty 1138 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,600 Speaker 2: close to market. Uh this fort nine is taking money 1139 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,800 Speaker 2: for a reason. They're helping now. Probably going a bit 1140 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 2: of a run here, but can't lay at this number 1141 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:31,520 Speaker 2: of paths. 1142 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and with Debo healthy and Trent Williams back, you 1143 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 1: know whatever issues Perty had against zones, I mean he 1144 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 1: did make one really risky throw across his body that 1145 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:47,120 Speaker 1: was ridiculous. 1146 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 2: How you got that? 1147 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like he's had a few of those 1148 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,960 Speaker 1: this yet. I remember one. I think Patrick Peterson had 1149 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,360 Speaker 1: perfect coverage on at Uka. He just took like a 1150 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 1: lot of Auke touchdowns this year have been contested and 1151 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 1: just like end point throw those great catches. So hey, 1152 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 1: more power to him. But you know Kiddle had alone 1153 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 1: touchdown Debo's Debo's back taking a handoffside of the backfield 1154 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 1: to Jet sweep. So yeah, this team is not our team. 1155 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 1: Is gonna be hard for the Bucks to stop Titans 1156 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,400 Speaker 1: Jags in Jacksonville, Jags favored by six and a half 1157 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,120 Speaker 1: coming off that thirty four to three loss to the 1158 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Gotta feel like it's a bounce back 1159 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:31,640 Speaker 1: spot for the Jags. Uh. Will Levis seems to be 1160 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,520 Speaker 1: going downhill, doesn't really seem to have many answers against pressure, 1161 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,480 Speaker 1: and Billard has not been good this year, but I 1162 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 1: believe he's in concussion protocol now. So they had Dylan Reddens. 1163 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,920 Speaker 2: That might be better after what helps hold till it started 1164 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 2: last week. Holy, he was, ah, yeah, he just. 1165 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:49,920 Speaker 1: Got run by over and over. I think at one 1166 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 1: point they put Vitaveya on the outside. He's a defensive packle, like. 1167 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, it looked like he didn't even know 1168 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,520 Speaker 2: what was that. There was a staff. He was just 1169 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,520 Speaker 2: getting run around every It was bad. 1170 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 1: And then and now I hear people talking about practice 1171 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,480 Speaker 1: like he's named in practice squad guys as guys he 1172 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,160 Speaker 1: might put out there. So this is a I did 1173 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 1: consider this under as well, But I do think the 1174 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,680 Speaker 1: Jaguars can have some success here though I think their 1175 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 1: offense has been a bit disappointing, especially with Calvin Ridley 1176 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,280 Speaker 1: just you know, running them up the sidelines like he's 1177 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 1: George Pickens and Terror Lawrence is kind of picking or something. 1178 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 1: But not a good matchup for Tennessee. So nothing for 1179 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:27,840 Speaker 1: me to really do here because I don't I don't 1180 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 1: like to fade Rabel as a dog either, what about you? 1181 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Titans of owing the Jags historically, I 1182 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,800 Speaker 2: mean they almost be limited for the playoffs with uh, 1183 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 2: well now we know the Yeah, I mean I'm I'm 1184 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,720 Speaker 2: close to market here. Jacks are still so inconsistent, but 1185 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,240 Speaker 2: the Titans have major protection issues right now. I mean 1186 01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,280 Speaker 2: Levis has been hit thirty two times over the past 1187 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:58,439 Speaker 2: three games, and yeah, I mean it's it's bad and 1188 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 2: not goil a run against the Levis looked. Yeah, it 1189 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 2: should have some clashes in his first start, but it's 1190 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,480 Speaker 2: regressed and it's really hard to get better when you're 1191 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 2: just under fire, like right when you snap it. I 1192 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 2: think Traylon Burk's probably still out, although I don't know there. Yeah, 1193 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,800 Speaker 2: I don't like to fade very Ball as a touchdown 1194 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 2: dog in the divisional game against a team that he's owned, 1195 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:24,280 Speaker 2: so passed. 1196 01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 1: Wrap it up with the Cowboys at the Panthers. Panthers 1197 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,760 Speaker 1: ten and a half point home Dogs, the total forty two. 1198 01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,360 Speaker 1: This is one where probably would think about the Panthers 1199 01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 1: if they were a team that I wasn't completely hands 1200 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,000 Speaker 1: off with all year. I mean, this is I could 1201 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,920 Speaker 1: see this disaster coming from a by way, and now 1202 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 1: Frank Reich is apparently taken back play calling duties. I 1203 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,280 Speaker 1: mean it is. It's it's turned into a clown show 1204 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 1: out there in Carolina. I mean, you lose to the Bears, 1205 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 1: you lose to Tyson Bagent. Bryce Young is really struggling 1206 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 1: against pressure. So you know, you kind of caught the 1207 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys caught lightning in a bottle laying the was a 1208 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,720 Speaker 1: seventeen seventeen and a half last week. This is a 1209 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,000 Speaker 1: lower number. Cowboys should cover it. Dak has been excellent 1210 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,040 Speaker 1: in these spots, you know, as a big favorite, But 1211 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,880 Speaker 1: just a pass for me because I think, you know, 1212 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:16,920 Speaker 1: this could be a little bit of a letdown for 1213 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,320 Speaker 1: the Cowboys as well. So I do I don't want 1214 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,080 Speaker 1: any parts of this rebout. 1215 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:27,719 Speaker 2: You Yeah, no parts. I mean Prescott's scond most profitable 1216 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 2: quarterback against the spread as a favorite of the six 1217 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:35,000 Speaker 2: or morely by Tom Brady. He's also like sixty nine 1218 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:39,160 Speaker 2: percent against the spread as against teams of the losing record. 1219 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,880 Speaker 2: And you know, the Panthers, the way that they do 1220 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,840 Speaker 2: run defense and their scheme could have some success lowing 1221 01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 2: down the Cowboys. But the reason that Dak has those numbers, 1222 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 2: it's not just because of his performance. It's because usually 1223 01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:57,599 Speaker 2: you get a lead over a bad team and then 1224 01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 2: that defense just takes over. And the way that Pryce 1225 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,320 Speaker 2: Young's been playing, how can you back him against this defense. 1226 01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,400 Speaker 2: I mean, he threw multiple pick sixes against the Colts defense, 1227 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,920 Speaker 2: so this could get ugly. But I can't lay it 1228 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 2: with the Cowboys of this number. But it's not a 1229 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:13,720 Speaker 2: team I want to fade right out. I love it, 1230 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,200 Speaker 2: like the Cowboys pretty much dominated the Eagles in Philly, 1231 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,599 Speaker 2: just got unlucky, dominated the Giants last week. Everything's clicking 1232 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,320 Speaker 2: for them. I love what's going on with the offense 1233 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 2: during more on early downs, Dat using his legs. The 1234 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 2: defense is adjusted to post Diggs life. You know you 1235 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 2: got Deron Bland is playing really well. Mark He's like 1236 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,840 Speaker 2: Brander ashes out for the year. Who cares Marku's bells 1237 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,320 Speaker 2: better Cowboys get up and then just say, like, who cares? 1238 01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 2: This game is meaningless. We're gonna wins, get stopped thrown. Yeah, 1239 01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,760 Speaker 2: and you could see the Cowboys go a little conservatively, 1240 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,439 Speaker 2: but that it could still work because they have they 1241 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 2: have a game on Thursday and Thanksgiving. I should mention 1242 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 2: that we will for college, for big uts on campus 1243 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,280 Speaker 2: and for your fantasy stuff, and for this podcast. We 1244 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 2: will like the two of the craziest days of the year. 1245 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:59,479 Speaker 2: We will get everything up by Wednesday morning for all 1246 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,559 Speaker 2: the listeners College, NFL fantasy. 1247 01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you'll everyone, y'all have y'all have all of 1248 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,920 Speaker 1: that content so you can make all your bets for 1249 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:11,120 Speaker 1: that the Thanksgiving slate and the main slate that weekend. 1250 01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,799 Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll we'll go ball to the wall and grind. 1251 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,000 Speaker 1: So uh so, you guys are are covered. You guys 1252 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,880 Speaker 1: and gals out there are covered. But yeah, that is 1253 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,600 Speaker 1: gonna do it for Best of the Rest Survivor the 1254 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:35,760 Speaker 1: Survivor Pool Pick of the Week Dallas hit last week. 1255 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:39,479 Speaker 1: I have a gap in confidence between the Lions against 1256 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:43,599 Speaker 1: the Bears in the divisional game and the Jaguars against 1257 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,200 Speaker 1: the Titans. In a divisional game, and then just the 1258 01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:50,000 Speaker 1: interconference Texans again. Yeah, I'm gonna go Lions. This is 1259 01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:54,160 Speaker 1: This is probably the toughest week I remember yet, but 1260 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:56,720 Speaker 1: I just feel better about the Lion scoring point. So 1261 01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,600 Speaker 1: we're going lines here, all right. 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