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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up? Straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire for Thursday, June the twenty six The back

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Speaker 2: baby felt good to get a few days off. Not

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Speaker 2: to get too personal, but you know, my daughter plays

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Speaker 2: little bit, except updating the Graham with my daughter's volleyball highlights.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not Dad who's videotypic all the time,

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Speaker 2: and you know knows the coaches and the players, and

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Speaker 2: I get into it. This is what I do. I

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Speaker 2: get into basketball, I get into football. You get in

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Speaker 2: a fantasy in coaching my kids. I get in a

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Speaker 2: gambling I'm I'm pot committed. So it was fun and

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Speaker 2: now I'm back. Got back in time last night for

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Speaker 2: the draft. Kind of an anti climactic NBA draft. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I everybody knew Cooper Flag was going first. That was

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Speaker 2: no surprise. I don't even think you could have bet

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Speaker 2: win a dollar, maybe more. I don't know. It was

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Speaker 2: such a formality. There weren't a ton of surprises in

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Speaker 2: the draft. I actually was gonna spend some time talking

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Speaker 2: about the trades this week. So many wild things have

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Speaker 2: happened in the last what three days since the Kevin

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Speaker 2: also add that last Friday on the Herd, you know

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Speaker 2: we do tomorrow's headlines today, they were like, Jay, you

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Speaker 2: got to pick a spot for Kevin Durant and I

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Speaker 2: picked Houston. And I actually said, they're not going to

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Speaker 2: have to give up she Goon or Amen Thompson. It's

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Speaker 2: going to be Jalen Green and Parts. And it was

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Speaker 2: jailing Green and Parts. I mean, I know we did

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Speaker 2: a quick podcast on that in addition to the Thunder

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Speaker 2: winning the title, but I mean, that's such a heist

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Speaker 2: by Houston, oh my gosh. And there's been plenty of

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Speaker 2: moves since then. I mean, you had my guy Jordan

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Speaker 2: my gosh, very over. I have it in my note

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Speaker 2: section all the moves that were made no surprise to anybody,

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Speaker 2: But the Boston Celtics are dumping salary big time. The

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Speaker 2: Drew Holiday trade to Portland. I don't think he's gonna

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Speaker 2: play for Portland. My guess is he's gonna get rerouted.

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Speaker 2: They got to get Scoot Henderson in there unless they

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Speaker 2: think they can make a run at the playoffs and

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Speaker 2: then trade Holiday at the deadline to a contender. I

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Speaker 2: like the Anthony Simmons pick up I saw. Boston fans

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Speaker 2: are kind of geeked about. There's some numbers that say,

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Speaker 2: hey man, he's one of the best bucket getters in

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Speaker 2: the league, just nobody knew because he played in Portland,

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Speaker 2: which was a tire fire of the last couple of years.

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Speaker 2: But Holiday's not aging well. It's coming off a really

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Speaker 2: bad shooting season, the worst in like five six years

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Speaker 2: for him. And they also dumped Porzingis. I cannot believe

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Speaker 2: anybody took Porzingis. And listen, the Celtics are gonna be

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Speaker 2: just fine next year. They're not gonna be the top

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Speaker 2: three in the East. They're probably gonna hang around the

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Speaker 2: just they won't have the horses. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: think you guys realize, like Derek White's awesome, as like

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Speaker 2: your fourth best player behind Tatum Brown and Holiday. Well, now,

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Speaker 2: Derek White this season is gonna have to be your

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Speaker 2: second best player unless you think Anfredy Simon's can make

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Speaker 2: the leap. I mean they're looking right now starting line

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Speaker 2: up of Derek White, Anthorty Simons, Jalen Brown, George Niang

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Speaker 2: and Luke Cornett. That's not fifty five sixty wins, guys.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Horford returns and they're gonna be young.

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Speaker 2: But this is what the second Apron does. Somehow the

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Speaker 2: Boston Celtics were able to dump two hundred million dollars

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Speaker 2: in tax payments with those two trades. That is staggering.

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Speaker 2: They will not they're not in the Second Apron anymore.

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Speaker 2: So it's basically like ownership is like, hey, make deals

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Speaker 2: And that is and that was done. I don't know

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Speaker 2: Shadon Sharp who they drafted. You know, Denny Avdia had

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Speaker 2: And then you get into the draft, and I definitely

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Speaker 2: but it seems like they're gonna have an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: have him play. Like Celtics are gonna be good. But folks,

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Speaker 2: the East is gonna be so different.

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Speaker 2: Now, the team to watch coming out of this draft,

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Speaker 2: and we'll get back to Cooper Flag in a second.

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Speaker 2: The team to watch is the Washington Wizards. My guy,

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Speaker 2: I just it was just too busy. We're gonna have

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Speaker 2: him on probably next week. The Wizards just crushed it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Brooklyn had a million picks, so they definitely

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Speaker 2: crushed it. But the Wizards pick up Trey Johnson, the

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Speaker 2: everybody's gonna bet Flag, and that's fine. Flag's probably not

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Speaker 2: Trey Johnson probably walks into the starting lineup and by

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Speaker 2: the All Star break is one of the leading scorers

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Speaker 2: it's funny they're getting I don't want to say toxic

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Speaker 2: feel kind of bad they're getting rid of me. First guys,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Kuzbah at the deadline, goodbye. Let's bring in Chris Middleton,

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Speaker 2: like Alex Sar actually did some things last year. I

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Speaker 2: know people laugh because like Alex Sar, who the hell

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Speaker 2: Oh by the way, side note, Alex Star one of

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Speaker 2: these guys, who's you know? Listen? The guy went number

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Speaker 2: gone top three or four this year. Like he's a

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Speaker 2: nice player, but I mean, come on, the run of

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Speaker 2: European guys at the top of the draft ended with

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Speaker 2: a thud because the first one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,

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Speaker 2: eleven first eleven players were played college basketball. Now a

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Speaker 2: couple of them, obviously, Demon going to the nets. He's

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Speaker 2: from Russia, Maleuk from Duke is from South Sudan, Edgecomb

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Speaker 2: And by the way, the first eight picks were all freshmen,

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Speaker 2: so we can't get too geeked about them. But it

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Speaker 2: was an interesting draft, I thought, because some of these teams,

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Speaker 2: and Freddy Frischell has been hyping him and I trust

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Speaker 2: an overpay. It just feels like Washington is doing that

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Speaker 2: clean house, get rid of everybody, get what we can do,

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Speaker 2: But do you go out and add like a legitimate

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Speaker 2: a left handed D'Angelo Russell. Interesting. And then they drafted

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Speaker 2: two foreign players. Well, one of them is Demon who

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Speaker 2: Hey man, you know what, We've got a lot of

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Speaker 2: Everybody's kind of worried about it. You guys remember when Peyton,

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Speaker 2: Who's gonna be the next quarterback? Oh, the league's gonna

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Speaker 2: There's a world where Phoenix went after Mark Williams. They

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