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Speaker 1: First question we asked everybody, who come on when you

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Speaker 1: first person to bust your ass?

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Speaker 2: Oh? First person to bust my ass? I mean I

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Speaker 2: got my ass busted every day in practice because I

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Speaker 2: was playing with Delisia Milton and Lisa Leslie. Tina Thompson

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Speaker 2: came over. I mean it was kind of every single day.

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Speaker 2: They would put me on the white team and they

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Speaker 2: would be on the black team, and they would take

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Speaker 2: turns not calling fouls and just so really it was

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Speaker 2: pretty much every every single day in practice.

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Speaker 1: Them legends too, Yeah, you had it and on a

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Speaker 1: daily that's that's rough, legends to Lisa Leslie.

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Speaker 3: But that got you ready early, right, Like that got

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Speaker 3: that's that's iron shopping and iron.

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Speaker 2: I mean I had a successful first month of the

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Speaker 2: WBA season, and I think I was feeling myself a

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Speaker 2: little bit. Michael Cooper, who was our coach at the time.

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Speaker 2: I remember the practice where we walked in and you

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Speaker 2: know how you warm up when you're rookie, after you

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Speaker 2: had like.

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Speaker 4: Thirty swag yourself a little.

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Speaker 2: Lean when I was like, you know, jogging the spots,

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Speaker 2: and then we scrimmaged and he called my name with

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Speaker 2: the white team, and I remember being like all right,

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Speaker 2: like let's go. And then I realized that I was

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Speaker 2: not meant to win because I went to the basket

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Speaker 4: Live on location La California.

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Speaker 3: I got the blackest one with me, and we got

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Speaker 3: one of the goats. We got one of the people

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Speaker 3: going on the Mount Rushmore for the women's basketball.

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Speaker 4: And she from Chicago.

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Speaker 3: You know, so we got miss Candice Parker in the building.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate you showing up and showing us love.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you're from Saint Louis, where you were born.

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Speaker 2: I was born in Saint Louis, born in Saint Louis.

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Speaker 3: She's from Chicago. I'm sorry, from Chicago. She was born

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Speaker 3: in Saint Louis. Tell us that try to throw that

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Speaker 3: in there like that. I just wanted to put like

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Speaker 3: I messed with Saint Louis.

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Speaker 2: Saint Louis is nice. It's uh. We still had family

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Speaker 3: We go back there every single No disrespect to the

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Speaker 3: lou I'm just saying the facts are the facts.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Saint Lunatics came out and I kind

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Speaker 2: of claimed Saint Louis a little bit. During that time,

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Speaker 2: Nellie was hot and sat lunatics, But no, I was

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Speaker 2: born in Saint Louis and moved when I was three

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Speaker 2: and really enjoyed. I mean, I'm eleven years younger than

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Speaker 2: my brother and my brothers were my heroes growing up,

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Speaker 2: so everything they did I wanted to do. Like we

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Speaker 2: went to the tennis courts, were playing It's hot, they

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Speaker 2: took their shirts off. I was over there trying to

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Speaker 2: I just followed suit. I was a huge soccer player

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Speaker 2: growing up up. And uh and so then they kind

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Speaker 2: I mean, we moved right when the Bulls started winning championships.

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Speaker 2: So I remember, like, I remember all that, like the repeat,

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Speaker 2: the three peat.

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Speaker 3: I remember like people riding outside on top of their

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Speaker 2: Remember the fire rolls to prevent riots, Like when Dennis

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Speaker 2: rob and Michael Jordans, Scottie Pippen got on and we're

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Speaker 2: talking about, you know, you want to keep Chicago safe.

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Speaker 3: Right Listen, that's why I tell people all the time,

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Speaker 3: like I got the chance to sit up there with

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Speaker 3: me and him. We were sitting up there with Scotty

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Speaker 3: on the Jump Thursday. I say, man, y'all, don't understand

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Speaker 3: this hit different every single time. It don't matter what's

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Speaker 3: going on. If I get around Mike or Scotti is

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Speaker 3: like like hold on, like you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: Like this them like this. They stand out to people

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Speaker 3: like us more so than anybody we like me.

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Speaker 2: It's insane. And honestly, I was the biggest Ron Harper fan.

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Speaker 2: And Ron Harper used to give Mike a couple of

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Speaker 2: you can't go to work when he came. When he

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Speaker 2: and Ron Harper and I went up to Ron Harper

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Speaker 2: and got Ron Harper's autograph and took a picture with him,

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Speaker 1: He was key to that team, and he was a

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Speaker 4: It was crazy.

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Speaker 3: It was like lockup, lockdown everything problems, it was nuts.

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Speaker 1: No point guard, just Ron harp Out, the Scottie running

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Speaker 5: Just seeing Scott.

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Speaker 3: Is so for you growing up like everybody know, like

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Speaker 3: the Who's the female goat for you that you looked

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Speaker 2: So at eleven years old, the WNBA started for me.

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Speaker 2: So the summer before I went out and was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm about to be like Chris Webber and you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be that you know, post player that's able

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Speaker 2: be like female athletes like I can. I don't have

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Speaker 2: to dream to play in the NBA. I can play

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Speaker 2: in the WNBA. And Cynthia Cooper at that time, Houston

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Speaker 2: Houston Comments were winning championship after championship after.

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Speaker 4: Like me, and it was nowhere.

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Speaker 2: It came out of nowhere exactly. And I remember in

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Speaker 2: the in my rec game because I wasn't playing traveling

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Speaker 2: basketball yet. My parents were very one sport. Stick to

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Speaker 2: that and then we can switch to in seasons, like

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Speaker 2: we're not going to burn you out playing basketball. So

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Speaker 2: I didn't really start playing serious basketball till I was

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Speaker 1: Who installed the game, like because you played soccer and

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Speaker 1: like you got great footwork, like who installed the game

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Speaker 1: and you just switched it to be like basketball sport.

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Speaker 2: My dad was like, we laugh, it's probably not funny

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Speaker 2: and where we called him like the Joe Jackson of

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Speaker 2: Before I was playing like seriously serious basketball. We would

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Speaker 2: I don't coach effort, and that was what coach Summit

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Speaker 2: be like, yeah, you got to be home in twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: So he'd be running home, like back from the park.

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Speaker 2: And I remember watching this as a kid and being like, man,

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Speaker 2: to my brothers, like they'd be in the strength shoes

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Speaker 5: So it was just like you wanted to be a

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to be a part of it. And

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Speaker 2: that's kind of how like our saturdays. I would beg

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Speaker 4: Yeh, hear that children and all that. If you listen,

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Speaker 2: And then after I finished the chores, I'd be like, Dad,

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Speaker 2: can we please go to Edward's health and fitnesses where

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Speaker 2: we always went, and I'd be like, can we please

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Speaker 2: there's so many memories. On a Saturday, I'd be over

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Speaker 2: the first time I did that, Like it's just those

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Speaker 4: Tell me about the first time you dunked a real ball.

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Speaker 2: So I it was like progression because so my brothers.

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Speaker 2: have dwarfed, then yeah, like I would have been like

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Speaker 4: You know, it ain't so bro.

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Speaker 2: Seven And I was fine, yep. So it was like that.

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Speaker 2: But that's what it was. I mean, it was just

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Speaker 4: Back in the air where legit. You would be in school.

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Speaker 3: You see dudes walking around backpack with the joint something like,

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Speaker 2: We're passed down so like mine were size Like I

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Speaker 2: because they bought my brother. Okay, right, and we got

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Speaker 2: him passed down. So I just tied him real tight

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Speaker 4: That's a classic, man.

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Speaker 2: I was doing toe raises on the stairs, push ups

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Speaker 3: All that on the stairs, tow raising, that's classic. We

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Speaker 3: now got trainers, got all this stuff. Like we was

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Speaker 2: Like like running trying to touch them on the top

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Speaker 2: of the wall. What else. Like one summer, my dad

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Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, so I ate with my

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Speaker 3: That's great, that's remember. That's what Kobe said. He had

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Speaker 3: his do. He was like, like he have her do

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Speaker 3: everything trying right left handed, picked things up left hand.

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Speaker 3: It just used like, you can't use your right hand,

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Speaker 4: That's crazy, That's what it was.

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Speaker 2: And then man, one summer, you know, I was six

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Speaker 2: gym class, I jumped up. I remember when I dunked

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Speaker 2: And then that summer I dunked the volleyball and I

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Speaker 2: couldn't get a basketball. And then one Saturday with my dad,

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Speaker 2: calling my mom. I called my brothers who my brothers

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Speaker 5: Like, nah, you don't, I get the break I'm dunking that, and.

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Speaker 4: But you know, you got the trophy.

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Speaker 2: Breathe sleeps women's basketball. We were second in Midnight Madness.

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Speaker 1: What did you get from past summit that you took

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Speaker 2: She wasn't big on tattoos, but when she was she

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Speaker 2: It's taken me a long time to you know, put

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Speaker 1: Straight up, that's awesome. If you had to pick four

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Speaker 5: Who were the four other players with.

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Speaker 2: any day I'll take a Lexus Hornbuckle over a lot

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Speaker 1: You know, one pick and you're playing with Lisa Leslie

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Speaker 1: Like the feeling like it's crazy to see legends like

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Speaker 2: interesting because Chicago was an expansion team, right, so they

435
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 2: were in that draft and the Sky got the second pick,

436
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 2: but I was hoping that La got the first pick.

437
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 2: And I remember when they got the first pick, my brother,

438
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 2: my middle brother, Marcus called me and was like, yeah,

439
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 2: we going to Kelly, and that was yeah.

440
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,360
Speaker 5: That's what's up. That's what's up.

441
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 1: So you're playing with the Sparks, and I know you

442
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: feel like you can win a championship with this team,

443
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 1: like tell us about them first couple of years with

444
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 1: the Sparks and playing with playing with Lisa Leslie and

445
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: that much expectation on y'all shoulders.

446
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 2: You know, I'll say this, and I know y'all are

447
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 2: in a viral type of things, but we if we

448
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 2: were healthy all things, we should have won. So she was.

449
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 2: She had her daughter. The year before I got drafted

450
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 2: that n CUAA turn. I was playing and reached and

451
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 2: tore my labor in my shoulder. So I was supposed

452
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: to have surgery and I was like, no, like it's

453
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 2: an Olympic year. I'm the number one pick. I want

454
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: to play, so like put me in the brace.

455
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 4: Whatever.

456
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 2: So I played, but my shoulder just that year kept

457
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 2: constantly popping out, like just constantly popping out. Whatever. So

458
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: we got to the Western Conference finals and we lost

459
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 2: on a last second shot. Sophia Young threw up some bullshit,

460
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 2: and so we went to game three. Then Becky Hammond

461
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 2: wanted to like drop thirty five on us. It was ridiculous.

462
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 2: She was doing all these like it was just ridiculous.

463
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 2: So anyway, kudas, I mean credit to them. They beat US.

464
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 2: But that year at the end of the year, you know,

465
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 2: I got rookie the year MVP, and I remember being

466
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 2: like I was going for the three peat because we

467
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: won the NCLA Tournament, Olympic gold medal, and I wanted

468
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 2: to win a WNBA championship all in the same year.

469
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 2: So we fell short. The next year. Little did I

470
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 2: know I was. I was expecting, like, you know, I

471
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 2: played that end of the year, didn't have any idea,

472
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: and then that all season I was like, oh, so

473
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be a mom. And that year I came back,

474
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 2: but I wasn't myself, you know. I came back, you know,

475
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 2: seven or eight weeks after I had my daughter, and

476
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: it took time to get going. I've torn my ACL

477
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 2: and then I had to set out my freshman year

478
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 2: in Tennessee from a total knee reconstruction from woral condole resurfacing,

479
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 2: like kind of similar to microfracture. My freshman year, tore

480
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: my shoulder, had meniscus. There's nothing harder than coming back

481
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: from a baby, like like your timing. I mean, I

482
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: was twenty three when I had her, so I was

483
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: pretty young. I was still working out. It's nothing like

484
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 2: I mean your mind is like jump and your body's

485
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 2: like three seconds behind. So it took forever, and I

486
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: relied a lot on my athleticism, I mean rebound and

487
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: pushing the ball, and it was just like your hips everything,

488
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: and so it took. I would say I came back

489
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,959
Speaker 2: in July. I had her May thirteenth. I came back

490
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: July fifth to my first game.

491
00:23:59,080 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 5: Wow.

492
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: And then I would say August September is when I

493
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: started feeling like I could play basketball again. I mean

494
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 2: it was a different challenge. And then Lisa retired after

495
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 2: that year, so it was just like what could have

496
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: been if both of us were really healthy and on

497
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 2: the court at the same time. But you know, life happens,

498
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: and I'm so blessed to have had my daughter and

499
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: her be able to share my career.

500
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 3: I cannot fathom doing what my wife did when we

501
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 3: had like trying to be an athlete, and that be

502
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 3: one of my priorities that I have to, you know,

503
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 3: deal with, intend to like when I was like for me,

504
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: I had my children after I was playing. But like

505
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 3: even when just looking at that whole process, thinking to myself,

506
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 3: I would have had a problem hooping. I felt like

507
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: and I'm not even the primary guy, like you know

508
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, like just being there just because I

509
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 3: was trying to be involved, like staying up whatever they.

510
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 4: You know, I was trying to get them sleep trained

511
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 4: and all that.

512
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: Like I would have been showing up like like you

513
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 3: know what.

514
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 2: I'm saying, just get to the next day. But I

515
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 2: think the biggest thing was just as an athlete, you

516
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 2: have certain things like I pregame, nap, I sleep two

517
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 2: hours before the game. I have my pregame meal, I nap,

518
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: I get up, I shower, I do it this way.

519
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: And it's like every day is a different, Like you

520
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 2: get her all ready for the game and she throws

521
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: up on all everything and then you gotta change that

522
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: face bag and then like yeah, she you know, she

523
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: gets sick. I mean I've missed a number of games

524
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 2: because my mom was a stay at home mom with us,

525
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 2: and when I'm sick to this day, I still want

526
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: my mom and I want Laila to have that. I

527
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: didn't ever want her to be, like, well, my mom

528
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 2: was different because she worked, like I never wanted that,

529
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: and so when she's sick, shit shuts down like I have,

530
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: Like I've not made games, trips, I've delayed overseas, like

531
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 2: my baby is number one. So yeah, So it just

532
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: went from basketball being the b all end all to like, man,

533
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: there's more to life once I had my daughter.

534
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: Speaking on that with your experience of having your daughter,

535
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: like seeing the changes and everything that's being able to

536
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 3: Ceeba and you know, reading about what what Skyler went through,

537
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: how do you feel about you know, all of the

538
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 3: great advancements that have been made And I'm you know,

539
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 3: obviously still a lot of more work and further to go,

540
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: but it was good seeing the improvements that were made.

541
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: You know, I think it's it's it's great because I

542
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: think all of us want to leave the game better

543
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: then we came into it. And we didn't have our

544
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: own rooms as rookies. You don't get it till your

545
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: fifth year. So you share a room, crazy, like share

546
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: a room like, yo, are you about to nap?

547
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 3: So? I mean in the bathroom and everything that exactly.

548
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 2: So when I had my daughter, I nursed for fifteen months,

549
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: so she had to go everywhere I went, And I

550
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: was very adamant about not sacrificing my career for my

551
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: daughter and not sacrificing, you know, being a mom for

552
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: my career, Like I just wanted to have both, and

553
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: so she went everywhere with me. So my mom went

554
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: with me, her dad went with me sometimes, and I'd

555
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: have to buy the other portion of the room, so

556
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: I'd have to buy my room on the road, buy

557
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: the airline ticket, figure out you know, childcare, yeah, nanny whatever.

558
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 2: It just was really hard and all that why trying

559
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: to play and.

560
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 4: Trying to you know, which is crazy.

561
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: And so now to see you know, they're going to

562
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 2: have a stipend or I guess I'm included in that.

563
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: So we're gonna have a stipen. We're gonna be able

564
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: to have an attorney leave where you get your full salary.

565
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 2: Stuff that you're like, wow, you didn't already have that.

566
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: That's what I like, I heard I didn't have like

567
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 3: a family room, Like how do you not have a

568
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: family room? So you know what I'm saying, like during

569
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 3: the game, your kids can go and have somewhere that

570
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 3: they cool, where it's a nanny and all of that stuff.

571
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 3: Like every team I've been a part of in the NBA,

572
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 3: we've had a family room where a whole separate place

573
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: where they got food, they can get drinks, they can

574
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 3: feel the people know them, they get badges, and it

575
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 3: by the time the quarter of the season, they know

576
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: each other and they know our kids. And they have nannies, two, three,

577
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 3: four of them. They rotate and everything is taken care

578
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 3: of and you don't have these issues.

579
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 4: And it's how it is. That's crazy.

580
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: But here's the thing I do want to say. You know,

581
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: the NBA hasn't always been what the NBA is right now,

582
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 2: not at all. It's been a growing process. So we

583
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: have to remember that it is a growing process. But

584
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: you are kind of what you accept. And when the

585
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: players decided, listen, this is the way it's going to be,

586
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: you know, you got to invest the I mean, we

587
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: talk about the impact David Stern had a lot of

588
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: the things he said and did at the time weren't popular, right,

589
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: you know, it was about progress exactly. I mean, the

590
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: NBA was on tape delay in the eighties. I remember

591
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: watching the playoffs on tape delay, right, So we're looking

592
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: at a finished product and trying to compare it to

593
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: the WBA. And so that's where I'm like, hold on,

594
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: let's pause this. We're our own league, and we're going

595
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: to try to be our own league. But in saying that,

596
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: there are some things that are non negotiable. Yeah, you

597
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: know as a professional.

598
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: Just to hear it, like cause we fight for it.

599
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: Like you know, I love the WNBA. I love basketball

600
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: like all kind of basketball, no matter where it is.

601
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: And we knew about it, but it's going details to

602
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: hear y'all speak about it in details of like, look,

603
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: we don't have this, we share rooms, we got to

604
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: wait for this flight.

605
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: Or it's just doing all this when our main job

606
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: is overseas.

607
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 5: I mean, and that's that's crazy.

608
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: Twenty times what I made in the WNBA overseas, that's

609
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: how I fed my daughter. So we're doing this to

610
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: just grow the game. And so you're adding that to

611
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: the fact that like in Russia, I had a driver,

612
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: a chef, we flew private we had extravagant parties. They

613
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: took my translator to translator, took care of my daughter

614
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: like we have all and so then we're coming back

615
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: here to grow the game. But at some point you're like,

616
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: at what cost are you gonna let let some of

617
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: these things go.

618
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: That's like Diane Tarassi Stan she didn't play the one

619
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: yea and she stayed just they paid her. That's crazy,

620
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: like like this just to hear that.

621
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 2: And this is what I'm saying. I'm optimistic, but I'm

622
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: cautiously optimistic because you know, we still We've come a

623
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: long way, but we still have a long way to go,

624
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: and I think that's the way that we got to

625
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 2: look at it. You know, hopefully before too long, you know,

626
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: we won't have to go overseas.

627
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: You finally get the opportunity to have a championship season

628
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: and a tough playoff run Game five that you had

629
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: to play, Like tell us about that game, and like

630
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: how that game came down to the end and y'all want.

631
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: Well, we had it locked up. We were up to

632
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: one at home. Our owners had already planned our championship

633
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: like that night, had Vans waiting for us and like

634
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: all this stuff, and we just couldn't finish it off

635
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: at stables. I remember going home and just like, man,

636
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: all this we've done all year, it could be done,

637
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: Like we could lose and all the work we put

638
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: in could just be for nothing. And then our coach

639
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: came in, Brian Agler, the next day and was like

640
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: if somebody at the beginning of this season gave you

641
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: one game to win a championship, would you take it?

642
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: And I was like hell yeah, Like yeah, he was

643
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: like all right, this is that opportunity, and we just

644
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: kind of changed our outlook from we lost it and

645
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: it was hours and they took it and get you know,

646
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: so like all right, let's go, and we went out

647
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: there and just played in the moment. In game five,

648
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff happened. We were up ten with

649
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: a minute ten to go and almost lost it. They

650
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: went up and then Mekka came down and had to

651
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: hit a crazy put back at the you know. So

652
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: it was just represented our season, just how we just

653
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: kept fighting and it wouldn't have gone any other way.

654
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 2: I do believe strongly an energy, and I think you

655
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: guys can feel it on a team. When the energy

656
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: is there, you win some games you shouldn't win just

657
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: because it's positive energy. Like we talk about work environment,

658
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: we talk about things, I mean, like even what y'all have,

659
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: Like there's got to be some sort of positive energy

660
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: in any relationship that you have that will take you

661
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: further than you would if you were negative.

662
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: That I agree with you, but that's not true him.

663
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: I don't like this.

664
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: That's from the outside, and you can keep that outside.

665
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 1: So to win a championship, to finally win one like

666
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: to be called a champion used to see when you

667
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: grew up. You see, like I say, the shrill swoops

668
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: to Lisa, Liz, you see all these people win these championships.

669
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: To be called a champion, what do that mean?

670
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, in LA, if you're a winner,

671
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: like you're loved forever, You're right, and that's how it was.

672
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: And I remember Michael Cooper telling me, like Coop was like, listen,

673
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: if you win in LA, you will You'll be fine,

674
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: like you will be great, and that's how it was.

675
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: I mean to be called a champion. I'm a firm

676
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: believer and people can luck up on one thing. So

677
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: I kind of believe in you gotta win too to

678
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: be considered a real, true champion. And I still believe that.

679
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: In college, I said the same thing. In order for

680
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 2: me to be able to be mentioned with the greatest

681
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: in college, I gotta win two and it's the same thing.

682
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: I feel that way in the WNBA. It feels great,

683
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 2: but I think it's more of like a reflection at

684
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: the end of your career, you know, because we won,

685
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: you put all that effort and then you go home.

686
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: And we talked about this. We talk about this in

687
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 2: the makeup room all the time at Turner. What's your

688
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: biggest feeling? Is it losing or is it winning? And

689
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: for me, I remember losing more than I remember winning.

690
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: Like winning, I feel like you move on faster. Losing

691
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: is like you're in your bed, Like for seasons that

692
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: you should have won, You're in your bed like Laila's

693
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: knocking on the door, like mommy, like you're gonna come

694
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: out and open the blinds, like it just.

695
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: Hit the If you don't want to watch basketball on TV,

696
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: you don't want to watch sports.

697
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: You don't anything. And it's like being a champion is

698
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: great in comparison to being to losing that year. You know,

699
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 2: I remember, I've played twelve seasons. Eleven of those I

700
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: can recall the end of every season, like I can

701
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: go back to that place in my mind and like

702
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: tell you exactly what I did after the game, and

703
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 2: you know, like it's just the worst feeling ever. So

704
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: I think it's more of like you don't want to

705
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: feel that way, So you're happy, you're a champion.

706
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: Straight up, who is your not top but your favorite

707
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: five women basketball players that you loved the most.

708
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: Cheryl Miller was before her time in the sense that

709
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: if Cheryl Miller had the opportunities that we have now,

710
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: I think she'd go down as the greatest player in

711
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: the history of basketball. And you know, there's a little video,

712
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: there's video and tapes and obviously she played in the WNBA,

713
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: but it was way past you know, her prime. But

714
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: she's a player that the videos we did have my

715
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: dad showed me and I mean she was six to two,

716
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: could do it all at that time, could dunk?

717
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 4: Could?

718
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: I mean that Jerry Crow was moving and transit. So

719
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 2: Cheryl Miller is definitely one that I looked up to. Obviously,

720
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: Cynthia Cooper. You look at that and that whole run

721
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: during that time, and I think, you know, ninety six

722
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: Olympics had a lot to do with where women's basketball

723
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: is right now. They won the gold medal and just

724
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: the history started there. I mean, you talk about Lisa Leslie,

725
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: talk about Don Staley. I mean I had the pleasure

726
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: of playing with Titia Pincero. Remember the first time I

727
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: saw her my brother went to Bradley University and she

728
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: was playing on the ODU team, and my brother went

729
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: to the game because somebody was talking to was on

730
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,479
Speaker 2: the girls team and Tisha, dude, everybody on a team,

731
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: no look past is spinning all that she was And

732
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:48,959
Speaker 2: so it's just you know.

733
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 6: So those are probably my top Like your game got

734
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 6: everything and you can shoot the three, you can post up,

735
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 6: you can throw off the dribble, and you know about

736
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 6: the game like who I know you got stuff from

737
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 6: different people, but who was the few people that you

738
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 6: pad in your game?

739
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 5: After that?

740
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: You want to kind of So I grew up the

741
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: biggest Allen Iverson fan, and my brother got drafted and

742
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: then traded to Philly. Mike crazy, like A I was

743
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 2: on my wall. I had like the finger band. So

744
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: my brother one birthday got me his finger band and

745
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: AI gave me his finger band and I played with

746
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: it every game in high school. That was like my magic,

747
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: like the magic, Yeah magic? What was it? Mike?

748
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 4: All right? My wow?

749
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 7: I not magic, Mike. I'm quoting the movie like Mike,

750
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 7: Like Mike, Yeah, y'all look at me, like like, Mike,

751
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 7: is that why you wore number three?

752
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: That is exactly why I wore number three. So when

753
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: I got to college, I wore thirty two for my

754
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: dad because that was his number. And then when I

755
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: got to college, it was retired. Djor Charles had it,

756
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: so it was retired. So I was like, all right,

757
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 2: I gotta go back, like I gotta go to AI

758
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: and so AI. Honestly, I remember being out there doing

759
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: all the like and when mixtape stuff, you know, when

760
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: AI jumped up and hit it off his elbow in

761
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: that two thousand All Star game, like all that. I

762
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: tried all that in the driveway. So I would say him.

763
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: You know, I was a big Chris Webber fan too,

764
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: just because he was mobile and a four and could

765
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: dribble and shoot and all that and so yeah, and

766
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: then just every I mean doctor J like my dad

767
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: had that on repeat, being able to go up. So

768
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: when you watch me go to the basket, sometimes I

769
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: get in trouble because I'll be trying to.

770
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

771
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: So it was just yeah for you to be you know,

772
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: you on a female nown Rushmore and you from the crib.

773
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 3: So you know what I'm saying that we wet at

774
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 3: talk about it in general, what Chicago basketball on what

775
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 3: Chicago basketball means and how impact you know, how we

776
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: are we we we wear at badge with pride and like,

777
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: look you see my shirt, shout out Pledge, allegiance to

778
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 3: the flags, shout out my twelve hundred label.

779
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 4: People in Chicago.

780
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: But you know we were we run around and like, no,

781
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: I'm from Chicago, I'm from the creb. You know, like

782
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 3: we we run with that and we wear that proud.

783
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 3: Talk about what that means.

784
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Chicago has always been I think the

785
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: measuring stick of basketball, and I don't.

786
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard.

787
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 2: Say that, you know, without understanding the huge impact that

788
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: Chicago has had on my career. Like I remember playing

789
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: Marshall and we beat them at Marshall. And I remember

790
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: the UIC tournaments in the summer where that's where you

791
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: went hoop Express and we went hoops the gym when

792
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: you go and you figure out if your game got

793
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: better from the summer previous. And I remember going in

794
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: there Michael Jordan was working out with Tim Grover and

795
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: watching through the window before we could get on the

796
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: court to practice. I mean, all that has had an

797
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 2: impact on who I am as an individual, but also

798
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: as a basketball player. And like I said, when you

799
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: get respect from Chicago, matter if anybody else respects you,

800
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: it really doesn't it means because it's just is different.

801
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 2: That's the thing is, you know, you figure out every

802
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: single day if you're as good as you have worked

803
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: or as you think you are.

804
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 4: She just said, every single day.

805
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: That's the part about Chicago that people don't understand, like, oh,

806
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: you you want a championship, that that don't matter. This

807
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: next game, somebody gonna try and chin check you. You

808
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 3: could hoop or you can shoot, but all you tough

809
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 3: if I knock you down and you're gonna get up.

810
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: And that's what you know what I'm saying, that's what

811
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 3: creates that toughness and that greediness that you see from

812
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: every single player.

813
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 4: I don't care you name one.

814
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: And it's what's insane is I love looking at the history,

815
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: like I remember Derek Rose in sixth grade played for Ferrari,

816
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: going and doing the same stuff crazy rookie in second year.

817
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 2: I mean going in there in sixth grade, double pumping, jumping,

818
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: doing this like the labs of floaters all day in

819
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: sixth grade, Like I remember that, and so it's is

820
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 2: really cool to see the people from Chicago when they're young,

821
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: because I think you see a lot of the history

822
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: history and people are wowed and like, oh man, he

823
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: could do that. No, he's been doing that in sixth grade.

824
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 2: I remember and just I mean everything, Remember the Hoops

825
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: was it the Hoops Prep Show, the Preps.

826
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 4: Whatever where it's like Sean.

827
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: Sehn Dockery and Cappy Pond Dexter and they.

828
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 4: Were all Jason Straight and I like, like I.

829
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: Dreamed of that. And then it's just funny because you see,

830
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 2: we only had two classes. There were none of this

831
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 2: twenty seven classes where it was like twenty seven state championships.

832
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: Double yeah, we couldn't.

833
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 4: We should have.

834
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: Probably had a playoff between single and double A. That

835
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: would have been no competition. But single and double A

836
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: and double A was like listen, yeah, let's go. You

837
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: had the city league champion. They came down, That's.

838
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 4: What I said.

839
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 3: Now like the state now we we came through. They

840
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 3: had city tournament. One team come out the entire city

841
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: and they repped the city. Now people could lose city

842
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: and then four, three, four or five different teams still

843
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: go out of city.

844
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,959
Speaker 4: Downstairs, I was like, how does this happen?

845
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 3: That's what it is like when you're lil now win

846
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 3: Because I remember, like I'm watching checking in your little

847
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 3: oak for them, I'm like they lost city. I'm like,

848
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 3: damn okay, it was like no, they won state. I'm like,

849
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: how did they lose city? But wen in state?

850
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: Like what that's they changed all the rules. But I

851
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: remember going to see Sean Livingston. Sean Livingston was he

852
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: was that deal.

853
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 4: No, So listen, here's the best story about as Dot.

854
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: So the first time I ever met Sean Livingston, this

855
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: is doing my state championship nineteen ninety eight, were in

856
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: state tournament. He's like this big halftime show. He's out

857
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: there on the show, running around Joven the ball, a

858
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 3: little big head kid, little bitty kid, head bigger than

859
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 3: his old body, basketball out there. He got it on

860
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 3: the stream. That's Sean Livingston. He grow up to be

861
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 3: as Dot. First time I ever met, he had to

862
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: be like eight or nine.

863
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: Here's the thing my brother played with at Bradley Right,

864
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: he grew up near Peoria. Seanday Right. We went to

865
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: a camp and played against each other together. That's crazy

866
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 2: at a camp in Peoria. And it's just the connections.

867
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody We have certain tournaments that you go to,

868
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: and the people that are trash don't go to those

869
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: tournaments because they know that they gonna get exposed if

870
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 2: they come. And you know, so that's Chicago.

871
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: Shot town, play the country boys, not you know, small

872
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: school you want to be I was from a small school,

873
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: so you want to be accepted from the big city.

874
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: Like that's why I used to be so aggressive and

875
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: so coming up.

876
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: See, everybody thought I was Everybody thought I was soft,

877
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: so they would all try to test me downtown.

878
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: I think stick I was because I was skinny, but

879
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: I was tough as a motherfucker.

880
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 4: Lie.

881
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: But because I was skinny, all hundred and eighty five

882
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: pounds of them, a zeke looked like he's skinny in

883
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: the mother and that didn't look like itzz it buzz

884
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: it was one to eighty five at six nine, bro.

885
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 4: It was freid.

886
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 5: But I was an aailible though I ain't say that.

887
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 4: I said you physically and you look.

888
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: You were here. Here's a question I have for y'all,

889
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 2: because we asked this the Chicago claim KGG No, no, no, okay,

890
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: let me ask another question. Does Chicago basketball claim.

891
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: Kg We Yeah, we were claiming for for that senior year

892
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: because he did legendary stuff and he came out of

893
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 3: Chicago straight to the high school. But like you can't.

894
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think he would claim Chicago.

895
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: I don't think he claimed Chicago. But I think Chicago

896
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 2: made him.

897
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 3: Oh no, we definitely a we impact I made him,

898
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 3: but impact impacted a million percent a million percent. And

899
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: we can't wait to have him on here because I

900
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 3: want to talk about it. I want because you know,

901
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: I'm from the Red West where he played that, so

902
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 3: you know.

903
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: I remember watching him.

904
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 3: I think I think that was that bi I'm trusting me.

905
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: When he touched down in the city, it was crazy.

906
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: Explain to people that it's similar. Like it's like everybody's

907
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: hype about Brownie and Zaire or anybody playing together. I'm

908
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 2: like realized it was two of the best in high

909
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: school teaming up together to play at one and one

910
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: coming from out of state to play.

911
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 4: Yo de Roe's career.

912
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: Like how you see how I'm so proud of the

913
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: Rose and see what I think.

914
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: People still don't understand the impact that he had. And

915
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 2: I didn't want when Chicago had the pick. I didn't

916
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: want to go to Chicago play at home. I didn't

917
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: want to do that, and d Rose went to Chicago.

918
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 3: And put it down, put it the way down.

919
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: He brought like that light that you ain't have in

920
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: Chicago since Mike never left. It was like it was

921
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: a whole new energy in Chicago, even.

922
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: With I'll go a step further because even with what

923
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: Mike and them did, he had. He had a step

924
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 3: further because it's homegrown.

925
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, energy and the roads to me, I go talk

926
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 5: about the rolls.

927
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: It was like it was great, Like I just think

928
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: iconic moments like when he was in high school and

929
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: was playing at the United Center, cock Back hit him

930
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: with his chest.

931
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: The dude red so hard back and what you start

932
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: hearing about it was like, man, send me. I got

933
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: a young boy over there. This when he was when

934
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: I first ever see the play. And they said, yeah,

935
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: this boy, say gave him BINGI nothing, but I said,

936
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: oh that right. There was like an indicator to make

937
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: you turn in here like wait, what like okay, like let.

938
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 4: Me see what's up.

939
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: But the crazy thing too is I went and watch

940
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 2: the workout. I was coming back from having my daughter

941
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: and my trainer was working, you know, trying to get

942
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: me back into it. And d Rose and Westbrook were

943
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: working out before my workout. I have never seen anybody

944
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: not slow down when they crossed over, you know how

945
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: like you okay, Like it's the same speed. I have

946
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 2: never seen that in my life. And there workout it was.

947
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 3: Them two right there, like d Rose at his prime

948
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 3: and Russell Westbrook throughout, Like those are two most explosive

949
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: point guards we've ever seen. Like drama man trying to

950
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 3: catch up. Now he coming along and here here he's

951
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: something specially but them too, John Moran, young boy fresh,

952
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I talk about him all on my shoulder,

953
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: bounce with yeah.

954
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: But it is he waits like a little muscle on

955
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: time because he flexes and I'm like stop.

956
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 4: No, he's allowed. I know, I'll allow it.

957
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 3: I'll allowed because when I've seen him go down the

958
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 3: lane and he took off on Aaron Baines and then

959
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: just like Aaron Baines laid people down, he flushed him

960
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 3: and went kept he kept going back on both said, oh,

961
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 3: this young boy, he is pressed. He's specially yeah. He

962
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: say don't want yeah.

963
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: You don't heard, because he's going to guards like that.

964
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, I wish when I was younger,

965
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 2: somebody would have just taught me how to control it,

966
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: because I was your lists and wiry and just like

967
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: Gheit all this and went to the hoop, and it's like,

968
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: there's a way to land.

969
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 3: There's a way to if d Rose had the gears

970
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: he take now before, if he was able to like now,

971
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 3: you can see he slow it down. But like before,

972
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: he used to be a million miles to Westbrook.

973
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: You look at d Rose, you look at like a

974
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 2: joh which I hope now medicine is caught up where

975
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: they'll teach him how to do our stuff a little bit.

976
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 4: That's what happened to Steve Francis. His knee went out

977
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 4: to look.

978
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: At all the wiry explosive.

979
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: It doesn't because you're going you only got so many

980
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: jumps in.

981
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: You can tell that to Zion. I always stop him

982
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: from duncan like you not a lot of dunk unless

983
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: you in the game.

984
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: I told him that he was standing in front of

985
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: the rim, just come off there.

986
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 4: They got him.

987
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 3: I said, no, this between his legs and think I

988
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 3: won't to see that right now.

989
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: It's just unbelievable he gets that in the air.

990
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 4: He's so yeah, he abslves that much.

991
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: Be like, it's really not supposed to fly, but it

992
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: is not possible.

993
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 5: We got.

994
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 3: This worst day he sit down on that bench, he'd

995
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: be dead, Tad, that would be so talk about how

996
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: you made the transition and got into the media and

997
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 3: where you are now with Turner and you have your

998
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,479
Speaker 3: own podcast with Christian Lelo. Y'all getting it in. Had

999
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 3: Kobe on already, didn't y'all have Charles?

1000
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had Chuck Kobe, Robin Roberts, We've had Alison Felix.

1001
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: We had a number of really.

1002
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: Cool they working out people, big time they working out

1003
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 3: here Black.

1004
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 4: I mean, you know what I'm saying.

1005
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: Your people have to call us our people, you know

1006
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But yeah, you know, no, it was

1007
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: it was something I really enjoyed. I mean, I'm sitting

1008
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: on my couch watching basketball, talking ship, so why not

1009
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: why not get paid to do it?

1010
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: You know.

1011
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 4: Exactly?

1012
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: So it ended up being and like the second best

1013
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: job in the world to me, other than playing basketball.

1014
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: Some playing basketball is number one. Like talking about it.

1015
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 2: It was just a no brainer.

1016
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 3: The only difference between the two is that you ain't

1017
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: gonna hurt yourself.

1018
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 2: Doing this exactly like I can go out the night

1019
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: before and drink with Chuck and talk on you know,

1020
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: on air. But I think it was that. But the

1021
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: transition was I did not want to go overseas. I

1022
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: went to China, and my daughter has she went to

1023
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 2: preschool in Russia. She went over with me to Istanbul.

1024
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: She's been to China with me twice. We spent Christmases

1025
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: in China, France, I mean everywhere. She was speaking Russia

1026
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: with a little black girl with buffs, talking about like

1027
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: straight up Russian. So it got to the point where

1028
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: she was like eight, and Layla is my homie. That's

1029
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: like my best Like she's just my soul first for sure.

1030
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: And every time I tell her, like all right, we're

1031
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 2: going someplace, like great, okay, mommy, Like when are we leaving,

1032
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: Like let me get my stuff, you know whatever. Her

1033
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: school is great work with us. This last time I

1034
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: told her we were going to China, she said okay,

1035
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: mommy and turned her head and she like started crying,

1036
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: Like you could see it was starting to like really

1037
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: affect her. And I was like, you know, there's got

1038
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 2: to be a happy balance of where I can have

1039
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: a living but then also allow my daughter to like

1040
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: have activities, have norm you know, friends in the States,

1041
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: and I always have to yeah, and to be consistent

1042
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: and so Turner. Obviously, I watched Team everybody watched tat

1043
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: inside the NBA. Everybody watches that NBA TV. If you're

1044
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: a fan, you're watching NBA TV, right, So that was me.

1045
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 2: It was always on two sixteen on NBA TV always,

1046
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: So that's kind of how it started. I was looking

1047
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: at that and came in for you know, one or

1048
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 2: two things in the studio, just to kind of fill

1049
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: in for somebody. And then Area twenty one was when

1050
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 2: it really kicked off, and I was on with KG

1051
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 2: All Star one time and then went on the show

1052
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 2: a couple of times and it was just great vibes,

1053
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: makeup room, just with him, with everybody, all the talent.

1054
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: Then the next year they asked me to do players only. Yeah,

1055
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: so I did Players only, and then they one of

1056
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: the talent took a took a job, you know in

1057
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: the NBA, and so they were like, hey, you want

1058
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: to fill in? I was like perfect, right, And so

1059
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 2: that's kind of when it was two years ago when

1060
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: I started consistently going to Atlanta and now I just

1061
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 2: love it. I mean the people is really what you know,

1062
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: Like your teammates can make you want to come to practice,

1063
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 2: can you. That's exactly teams that have been successful. And

1064
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: it's just like you don't like the people. And it

1065
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: doesn't matter how much success you have if you don't

1066
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 2: mess with the people you work with or your teammates.

1067
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 2: It's miserable.

1068
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 3: Telling you, but no, that's that's one hundred percent what

1069
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 3: it is. It Turner like I'm you know, I'm there

1070
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 3: now and been there last year and a half. And

1071
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 3: like you said, it's like you going there, you've got

1072
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 3: a great group of teammates that you can't about to

1073
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 3: go hang out with.

1074
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: You know, you know they have your back, y'all about.

1075
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 3: To sit down, talk, crab, hang out, kick it and

1076
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 3: have a good time. Literally, you going there, order fool,

1077
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 3: you know, do your production meetings and then you get

1078
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 3: your work done. But you you know, it's like it's

1079
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 3: like you're hanging out type vibe.

1080
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 4: It's not. We never feel like we at work really,

1081
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 4: like you.

1082
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: Know, in the maker room, it's never.

1083
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 4: Music playing like I'm.

1084
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: Talking, everybody's talking. It's not just talent with the makeup is.

1085
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 4: And everybody nick everybody. Yeah, I know what I want

1086
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 4: to ask.

1087
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: So when you when you started getting that bread, like

1088
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 3: not the politically correct thing. What you win, what you

1089
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 3: want is splurged down, did you look back.

1090
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 4: On like, yeah, that was a young stuff.

1091
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 3: But like even a mistake, you know sometimes we do.

1092
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: So you got to treat yourself a little bit. You

1093
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 3: work real hard, you you know you earned it.

1094
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 2: That's a good that's a good point. I don't know

1095
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: if I ever bought anything that was crazy, but I'm

1096
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 2: real particular about my vacation, so I think I took

1097
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: way more extravagant vacations than my means at the beginning

1098
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 2: stage of my career, Like that was my big dream

1099
00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: was just to have on dope vacation and just like yeah,

1100
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: nice sweet, bring the people that I want to bring,

1101
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: you know, have a good.

1102
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 4: Time, and we know they could be Couseley that built like.

1103
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: Damn you drink so much Oorgs Juice.

1104
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: Who was a walking bucket, who was a woman's players

1105
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: that every time you seem like she gets buckets.

1106
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: I mean Simona Augustus. I played against her in college

1107
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: at LSU and then when she came to Minnesota, they

1108
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 2: weren't good her first I don't know how many years,

1109
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 2: but she would get thirty every and we would be doubling,

1110
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: like we know where the basket was coming from, Like

1111
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: nobody else can score on their team. We got to

1112
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 2: stop her, and she would still get a bucket. I

1113
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 2: mean that little like fade shot over her head. You

1114
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: couldn't block it. You knew that the right to left

1115
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: was going to come back, you knew it, but she

1116
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 2: still got crossed. She to me, is one of those

1117
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 2: players that, especially in her prime.

1118
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 4: I mean we had big baby on hand.

1119
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 3: He was telling us like they if they high school,

1120
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 3: she was the best player, like even though that it

1121
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 3: was whatever in the area, Like she was the best player.

1122
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 3: Be bast and her went to the same high school

1123
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 3: and like we were teammates with the magic and he

1124
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 3: used to be like, man, listen, he was all American

1125
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 3: all that he was. Like, she had more college coaches

1126
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 3: than people coming to the school for her than anybody

1127
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: the show.

1128
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 2: Moan was crazy. I mean, she still gets buckets.

1129
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: But to be arguably be the best female basketball player ever,

1130
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: how did that feel? Like what you dreamed of? You

1131
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: came up and you've seen male side and female side basketball,

1132
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: and you just like your career is going to be

1133
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: mashed up with people's career.

1134
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 5: How do that feels like?

1135
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing for me was I was

1136
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 2: always about versatility and about crossover appeal. And I think

1137
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 2: the thing that I really respect is when some of

1138
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: the best dudes come up to me and like, you know,

1139
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 2: in Chicago, you get that nod of respect, Yeah, you

1140
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 2: get it, And I almost hold on to that more

1141
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: than you know, even nationally. I think when I got

1142
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: that respect in Chicago when I came I remember I

1143
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: came down and played at a USC tournament against Cappy Pondexter,

1144
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 2: and Capy Pondexter was like, you talk about Mount rushmore

1145
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 2: like in Chicago basketball, not just female basketball, talking about

1146
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 2: male female all that happy pond Like, I was in

1147
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 2: eighth grade and I came up to Capy and was like, Hey,

1148
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: I'm Cannas Park. She's like, I know who you are.

1149
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, you do like those who I am?

1150
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 2: You know? And I think that to me is when

1151
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 2: men see what they're going to see, women see what

1152
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: they're going to see. But when you get that crossover

1153
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 2: appeal of both is when I think you really have

1154
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 2: the respects.

1155
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to hear about you like a long

1156
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: time ago, and uh, when Capy came, I was a

1157
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: big Cappy Poindexter fan because we used to play against

1158
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: State High School all the time, Marshall and then after

1159
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: she went out, I always pay attention to Hunt. Then

1160
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: you came and like for you to be so dominant

1161
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: and just so versatile, you was different.

1162
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 5: I feel like it was kind of like me.

1163
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: I was a different type of player that they never

1164
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: really kind of seen before. And you was the same way.

1165
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: You was tall, you can dribble, you can shoot, you

1166
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You could post up like you

1167
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: did every single thing. Like you was the one like

1168
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: the Tamika Kussing, Like when she came out, she was

1169
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: a versatile type player, but you took it to a

1170
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: stream like and girls coming behind you.

1171
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 5: Now it's just.

1172
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 2: Just laugh because the NBA now you know when we're

1173
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 2: coming up. It was like the fours ran the middle floor,

1174
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 2: they reversed the ball, they ran over, they screened, they

1175
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 2: popped or they rolled and it was like I remember

1176
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: rebounding the ball and pushing it and coaches being like

1177
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: hold on, no, like doors can't push the ball.

1178
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 5: That's what they used to do anything.

1179
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 2: So it's just fighting through that. And now you see

1180
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 2: where and this is what I laugh about all the time,

1181
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: like you had fours in yourself and like lamar Odom

1182
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 2: and you know even like Dirks, now that's what it was.

1183
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: But just Dirk wise and now you see, Yanna, You're like,

1184
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: that is the reason why it is the way it is. Yes,

1185
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 2: And so it's always like a steady point. And you

1186
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 2: know when I came into the league, I can say

1187
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: it now like there weren't fource that were pushing the

1188
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 2: ball and handle the ball. And you know, the NBA

1189
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: likes to claim that they were the first to have

1190
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: the four to push the ball. No, but I think

1191
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: it's just about changing the game and about progress and

1192
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 2: the evolution of it.

1193
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, because like when it was

1194
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: okay for me to get the ball off the board

1195
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: and push it, I had to always dunk it. I know,

1196
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: if I got this ball off this board and push it,

1197
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: I either got to lay it up, go coast to

1198
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: coast and lead up or go coach the coast and

1199
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: dunk it.

1200
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 5: For my coach not to say nothing to me.

1201
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: Was that the same like we asks for you because

1202
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: I know, like they telling you not to do it,

1203
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: and when you finally do it, you're like all right.

1204
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: So I know, when I get this board and I

1205
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: push it, I either got to make a play for

1206
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: somebody or I got a score.

1207
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 4: That what gave you to come At.

1208
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 2: The beginning, it was like that. At the beginning, it

1209
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: was like that. But I think as we started going

1210
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: back and there were like more advanced stats, more things

1211
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 2: like that. I remember there was a stat at Tennessee

1212
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 2: of when I rebounded the ball, like our percentage of

1213
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: scoring when that happened, and it was like significantly higher

1214
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 2: than anywhere, and it's not by accident. So I think

1215
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: when those stats kind of came into where, you know,

1216
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: obviously I had to keep my turnovers down, but even

1217
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: just a simple give and go, you know how hard

1218
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: it is to train your body. I don't want to

1219
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 2: guard that somebody who's ribbling down because you know, guards

1220
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: they move their feet doing that, you know, whatever post

1221
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: we don't want to do that. Like I'm trying to

1222
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: guard an ice on that side, I'm trying to hedge

1223
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: and get back to mine. I need help on the recovery,

1224
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: Like I.

1225
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 5: Got a run hard to give back.

1226
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to.

1227
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: Run back and all that, Like I don't want to guard.

1228
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: Felt good to hear something that they didn't want you

1229
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: to do to Like now you hear a coach to

1230
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: be like, hey, when you get the boy pushed, because

1231
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: you know, being as a big man or being as

1232
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: labeled as a big man, the first thing they'd be like,

1233
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: get it to the guard. But now when they see it,

1234
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: they be wanted to be repetitive every game.

1235
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 5: Oh no, you know you get the boy, push, the

1236
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 5: boy push.

1237
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's like that.

1238
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: And it's and you you was like they weren't doing that,

1239
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: Like you you play center sometimes and you're setting it

1240
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: up like that's transcending. And you know what I'm saying,

1241
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: like you showing women's basketball like a whole different level,

1242
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: like it's changing because of you.

1243
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: You know, well, I think it's it's a lot of

1244
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 2: a lot of different things. I mean, I don't know.

1245
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: You guys have probably been told not to do a

1246
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: move a million times. Yeah, Like Pat was against me

1247
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: using my left hand because you know, my dad. If

1248
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: I didn't use my left hand on the left side,

1249
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: Like I had twenty push ups on my own. Yeah,

1250
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 2: why didn't you? Because you know, when you play better,

1251
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: my petition like, that's getting blocked. So if you come

1252
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 2: through and shoot, no, that's getting blocked. That's blocked twenty.

1253
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: You know, That's how it was. And so for me,

1254
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: if I would go in and miss a left handed shot,

1255
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 2: coach would be like, just use your right hand, and

1256
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: I'd be like looking at the stands, like, but my dad,

1257
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 2: But like it's I think.

1258
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 3: I think that's like now we talk about looking at

1259
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 3: the game, I mean women's and men's just looking at

1260
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: the game.

1261
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 4: Now.

1262
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 3: I've seen different people talk about I saw Powell wrote

1263
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 3: an article saying, like how some of the things that

1264
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 3: people randomly do just playing Man, we'd have got benched,

1265
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 3: we would have got exiled to the bench, screamed on,

1266
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 3: and everything else. Been on the film the next day,

1267
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 3: like who do you think you are? You disrespected the game?

1268
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 3: All of this different stuff like people like and it's

1269
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 3: no disrespect to what I'm just saying. It's a different age,

1270
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 3: like we would have got man listen, and some of

1271
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 3: it's celebrating too.

1272
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 2: But I also think like we probably wouldn't have survived

1273
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 2: Twitter and Instagram because like Colin came out like two

1274
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: years after and Twitter was like just starting when I

1275
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: was in I wouldn't have wanted social media and all that.

1276
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 2: And so now it's more of like entertainment. Even in

1277
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: high school you look at now it's entertainment. So that's

1278
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: like gonna get more clicks. So coach can't be like, nah,

1279
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: don't show emotion because Zeke says that all the time

1280
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: in the studio, like Josh celebrated, he was like, oh,

1281
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 2: he would have got messed up the next time down

1282
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,439
Speaker 2: the court. You know. It's just but.

1283
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, zekeo never going to have for.

1284
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: Him and Michael I'll be in there like.

1285
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 4: The best stories ever though, Man.

1286
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: They have the best stories.

1287
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 3: How do you feel when you see some of these

1288
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 3: young girls now it's like really out here like banging,

1289
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 3: like I've seen you know, I'm still you on Instagram,

1290
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: were all on social media and you see just some

1291
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 3: of the clips and you see the girls at a

1292
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 3: young age. Just how the game has expanded, Like not

1293
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 3: only would some of the girls being athletic and duncan,

1294
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 3: but just how they their games have expanded so far

1295
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 3: what do you feel about that where the game is

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Speaker 3: going for females and little girls in general.

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Speaker 2: I love it. And I've always been a big believer

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Speaker 2: in the fact that, like, you have to have access

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Speaker 2: and exposure and you got to see it first and

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Speaker 2: training eating at an earlier age, understanding that, like you

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Speaker 2: can be an athlete, and it hasn't always been like that.

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Speaker 2: And so I think now we're seeing the transition of

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Speaker 2: growing up and how beneficial it is to grow up

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Speaker 2: seeing people like yourself on television and seeing women athletes.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's just as important for my

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Speaker 2: niece to see it as my nephew as well, because

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Speaker 2: I think it changes the narrative. I mean, my trainer

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Speaker 2: right now, I was the first female that he had trained,

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Speaker 2: Trevelle Gaines. He trains everybody, like everybody in the league,

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Speaker 2: trains everybody in the NFL, and he was like, wow,

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Speaker 2: like before I trained you, like I didn't really you know,

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Speaker 2: I respect it. Now I'm like, yeah, can we can

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Speaker 2: jump to So it's just it's about exposure and I'm

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Speaker 2: excited about where the game's going.

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Speaker 4: So you know, we got.

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Speaker 3: Of it.

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Speaker 4: You're trying to so.

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Speaker 2: Love, Thank you, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: You've got a very very gracious part.

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Speaker 3: This is this is very special, and it's v s

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Speaker 3: o PE with the special.

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Speaker 4: You know we're out here trying so much.

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