1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 1: Nori with her Linda Salvin back with us. He is 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: a radio host, veteran, a metaphysician. Doctor Linda Salvin was 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: not born with psychic gifts, but a series of devastating 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: accidents transformed her life. With each of these experiences, her 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: spiritual connection to the universe and her psychic gifts began 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: to get better and grow more and more. Spiritual awakenings 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: resulting from a plane crash, a firetruck, and other near 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: death experience with a white light cost her to seek 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: out ways to integrate her education and experiences to assist 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: others on a new holistic and metaphysical path. Linda, welcome back. 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: How are you. I'm doing great, George, Thank you for 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: having me, and happy holidays to you and everybody listening 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: you too, Linda looking forward to this without dwelling too 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: much on this because I don't want it to be painful. 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 1: What was it like being in a plane crash? I mean, 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: did you know you were crashing? Not really. I had 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: a premonition an hour before I was on company business. 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: I was working for an insurance company at the time, 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: and as you mentioned, em educated. I have a master's 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: degree in public health epidemiology, so I was doing environmental 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: health and safety of all things. And we were up 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: in San Jose. We flew out of John Wayne Airport 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 1: in southern California, and we our whole day got kind 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: of messed up with the testing we were doing, so 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: we went back to the airport. Early in my partner Leo, 28 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: and I were sitting in the coffee shop and looking 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: at the plane sitting in the window. I said, doesn't 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: look like it could crack there, and he looked at me, 31 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: thought I was just tired from the day, and I've 32 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: never had a premonition. I was twenty seven at the time, 33 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: and an hour and a half later, the plane crash 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: landed to avoid collision with another plane taking off the 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: same runway. The probability of all of us surviving was 36 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: two billion to one. The engine fell off, the landing 37 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: gear was stripped, and the plane cracked in half exactly 38 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,919 Speaker 1: where I had the vision like ninety minutes earlier. So 39 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: I didn't realize we were crashing until we were on 40 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: the ground. We were on the pavement and the throttle. 41 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: It didn't sound like we were stopping. And then I 42 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: looked over and there was grass, so I knew that 43 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: we I mean, I knew we crashed. I could feel it, 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: but we weren't stopping. And then we came to a 45 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: halt and the stories just right up the aislands that 46 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: everybody off before it blows, and then slid down the ramp. 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: Asked the stewardess where the stairs were was in total shock. 48 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: And then I just ran on the field. And you 49 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: know the four or five freeway hits John Wayne Airport, 50 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: So I saw freeway and I panned, and then I 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: saw paramedics, and then I panned and I saw the 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: terminal and I panned and I saw the plane on 53 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: its belly, on fire, smokey people running, and I thought, 54 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, I just survived a plane crash. And 55 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: it's just total shock. It's something it's too much, too comprehend. 56 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: But I was out of my body like fifty feet, 57 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: which lasted about four months. That's when all this started happening. 58 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're back with us, Linda. I'm here every 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: couple of things. Fantastic. Nice to be back, George, but 60 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: I'm still here. You know, I'm here with a gift. 61 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: And back then I had no clue. But in retrospect 62 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: forty someone years later, it was like an initiation. I 63 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: was very young, and at that time I thought life 64 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: was over. I had no purpose, no goal, No I 65 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: didn't know what to do. Us full of fear and 66 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: anxiety and weird stuff happening. And we have to remember 67 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: that was long before the Internet, and there was nobody 68 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: to talk to or google back then. That's right, we 69 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: were out there on our own in the eighties. Yeah, well, 70 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about the afterlife. But I 71 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: want to say one thing here is you bring people 72 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: joy from the pain of suffering that a lot of 73 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: people go through during the holiday seasons. It's one of 74 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: the reasons why we broadcast live shows. This program is 75 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: so personal with people and it's almost become part of 76 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: their family. And you know, there are a lot of 77 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: people on the holidays who don't have family. They may 78 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: be alone. And I made a decision twenty years ago 79 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: when I took over this program. I told our producers, 80 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: I said, we're not running tapes, we're not taking days 81 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: off on holidays, and they will be live programs. Whoever 82 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: does them, we will do live programs. And we had broadcasting. 83 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: Is you're speaking to a broad audience of various people everywhere. 84 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: And as you know, I was in radio, I did 85 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: my show for twenty years back on the air now 86 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: doing internet and I stuff to talk to Tom about 87 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: some stuff as we mentioned last time, but I had 88 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: the same thing. I never read tape on Thanksgiving or Christmas. 89 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: And even though I had a smaller audience, I'm still 90 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: in four hundred markets at my peak. And it is 91 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: it's like you want the beauty that your show, or 92 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: the way a lot of us can guide a show 93 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: as it makes each individual whether they're driving the truck 94 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: or their home alone in bed, or wherever they are listening. 95 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: It's like we're speaking to that one person only. That's 96 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: the beauty of a show like this, where you encompass 97 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: the spirit and the soul and people don't feel alone, 98 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: they feel connected. Yeah, that is so true. But there 99 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: are a lot of people that have that pain during 100 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: the holiday season, and how do you help people like that? Well, 101 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's everybody's individual. Everybody that comes to me 102 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: is as their own story or their own pain or 103 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: their own loss. I've suffered a lot of loss this year, 104 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: a lot of us have, especially since COVID, But a 105 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: lot of it is what was taught to me many 106 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: years ago. When people say I'm so alone, I'm so alone, 107 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: I said, you're not alone, because I became very spiritual, 108 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: obviously after the accidents, where I turned to God and 109 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: I found my own God, not as a religious god, 110 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: but a spiritual thing out there that guided me. So 111 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: if you take the word alone and break it up, 112 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: it says all one. So I help people get back 113 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: to like that butterfly moment. So we always talk about 114 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: the butterfly being a link from God and to help 115 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: them connect to what the universe really is, what's out there. Yes, 116 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: we have losses of people or animals and relatives, and 117 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: as we get older, we start remembering and grieving or 118 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: missing our childhood and the dinner table and the relatives. 119 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: And as we get older the table shrinks or people disappear, 120 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: or our loved ones are gone, or like I lost 121 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: my dog this year. You know, and it hurts, and 122 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: we all have pain. We all have pain, but it's 123 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: even like the Buddha would say, it's just how you 124 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: learn to live with it. There's no pain free life. 125 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: There isn't, but there's ways to cope better. And sometimes 126 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: it just means getting out of the house and taking 127 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: a walk, or saying hello to somebody at the market. 128 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: And you never know who needs to say hello more 129 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: than you. You know, it's learning to become one with 130 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: others and step out of the pain. Because the pains 131 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: in the past and the anxieties in the future, but 132 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: in the moment, we can really be at peace. And 133 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: that's what I helped people learn to integrate from all 134 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: the different fragments inside us. How did you become so 135 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: enamored with the afterlife? Well, that's also part of the 136 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: story here, George. I became a medium after I had 137 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: a hundred tumors. We moved from my hips and thighs 138 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty six. Did you say a hundred tumors 139 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: were on my hips, my hips and thighs. Oh my god. Yeah. 140 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: And one day somebody came to my apartment when I 141 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: was living in the valley at the time, and he 142 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: came for a reading, and he asked me to talk 143 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: to his wife, who has recently deceased. I said, I 144 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,559 Speaker 1: don't do that. And next thing I know, I start 145 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: opening my mouth and he this guy's mouth dropped. He said, 146 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: you're sounding like my wife. That's what she would say. 147 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: You're saying everything she knows about me, and blah blah. 148 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: It just happened. Well, after that experience, who did I call? 149 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: But you're and my old friend doctor Emlyn PAGLINI because 150 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: I the only one I knew that understood that weird stuff. 151 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: And she goes, well, welcome to the world of transmediumship. 152 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: So after the surgery, I think I was two or 153 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: three weeks into the healing and it happened, And that 154 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: was nineteen ninety six. But I officially retired from doing 155 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: it full time in twenty eighteen. It takes a toll 156 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: on the body and the mind and the spirit, and 157 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: I needed to kind of separate from the paranormal and 158 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: get back into whatever reality I live in without going 159 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: so far into the dark. I still channel. I still 160 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: help people, but I don't do it as often. It's 161 00:08:55,160 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: too draining. What have you learned about the afterlife? Feel 162 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: our people, our parents, our friends, loved ones, ancestors, animals, 163 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: they're all there. I have heard gunshots, I have read 164 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: our dictated or channeled. Rather, spaghetti recipes are soft recipes. 165 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: I once dictated a suicide note. I have seen the 166 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: people in beautiful clothing, happier times. I've learned that there 167 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: is a life that continues. Our soul goes on, the 168 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: body stays. You cannot cremate a soul, so even if 169 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: we cremate a body, the soul leaves on that last 170 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: breath it goes. So I've learned that the soul continues. 171 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: We're here for a short time, even though it seems 172 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: like a long time, and sometimes it's wonderful and sometimes 173 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: it's scary and the world's wacky lately, but we're here. 174 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: But when we do, there's still more. And I've learned 175 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: that there's like schools, different levels of where people ascend. 176 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: I believe that the more spiritual we've become in this lifetime, 177 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: in this incarnation, the higher we go when we transition over. 178 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: And I know that our family and loved ones are 179 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: at the gate. They're gatekeepers. And even little children who 180 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: have died young of you know, disease or something, they're 181 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: often at the gate saying hello and welcoming. It's most 182 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: people go to the light. Most people are there are 183 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: most spirits. There's I don't really know about the purgatory 184 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: or the hell that I've seen one case in my 185 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: entire life that I believe there's something really dark, but 186 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: I choose to concentrate on the light. And it's real. 187 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: A lot of times people ask about spirit guides and 188 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: guardian angels. It's all real and and like your own ancestors. 189 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: And we've discussed this as shows prior can be maybe 190 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: eight generations beyond your own knowledge. But they would be 191 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: your guardian angel or they would select to take care 192 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: of you and your guide. You strangers you've never met. 193 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: They choose from the other side. Oh, I'm going to 194 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: take care of George. I like that person, Tom, I'm 195 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: going to go help Lisa. I'm going to choose Linda. 196 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: And we don't know them. But if there's a channel 197 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: or people that that can open up that side and 198 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: start communicating, a lot of times the names will come 199 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: through and you learn who's taking care of you. So 200 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: to go back to your original question, especially at the 201 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: holiday time, it's lonely. It's it's there's so much marketing 202 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: and everybody looks like they're having a great time and 203 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: you're supposed to wear the most beautiful clothing and give 204 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: all these presents. Then there's this other side where everybody's 205 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: by themselves, or you're isolated, or you don't have the money, 206 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: where you don't have family, or you don't have a 207 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: lot of friends, or you broke up with your boyfriend 208 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: or your girlfriend or your husband or your wife, guide 209 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: something's gone wrong and you're alone. So by communicating with 210 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: the other side, or feeling and knowing they're really here 211 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: around us, like at a different dimension, there comes a 212 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: certain set of conference zones open up in the heart. 213 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: So I like to let people know they're not really alone, 214 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: we just can't see them, but to help feel the 215 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: presence and not just more in the memory, Linda, did 216 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: you ever have any doubt in the existence of the 217 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: afterlife before I became involved with metaphysics. Absolutely, I used 218 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: to scare the daylights out of me. I couldn't comprehend that. 219 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: I didn't even it never really hit me. Look, I 220 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: grew up with three suicides when I was very young. Yeah, 221 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: one is too much. Yeah, there were three in my 222 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: mom's side, and I remember I was two and a 223 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: half when I lost my grandfather. So I always wondered 224 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: where did he go? Where did he go? You know, 225 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: it's one thing where I remember running through the house 226 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: in North Hollywood looking for him after he had been sick. 227 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: And it wasn't until I think it was sixteen when 228 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: I learned the truth of the suicide. But the absence 229 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: and the abandonment and the loneliness, or I'm Jewish, sould 230 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: like every holiday if my grandmother was cooking dinner and 231 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: we'd go over that one chair was empty, thank you, 232 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: thank you, and everybody else out there itself celebrates the 233 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: festival of lights. But you know, you mourn your law, 234 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: you feel it, you feel the loneliness, there's a hole 235 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: in your heart. You know something's wrong. But I used 236 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: to wonder where do we go? And growing up, we 237 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: didn't really talk about it. I mean my mom could 238 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: never even talk about really what happened, and in those 239 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: days things were more taboo. Anyway, he just didn't talk. 240 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: He kept it under the rug. You know, you didn't 241 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: talk about anything. But in our generation we all talk, 242 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: and we've opened up spiritually and more emotionally, and psychiatry 243 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: and self help and everything's exploded since the seventies. But 244 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: I didn't really think about where the soul would go. 245 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: And you know, I come from science. I come from epidemiology. 246 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: I mean it was patent dry physiology. But we didn't 247 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: really talk about souls back then. Okay, but Elizabeth Couldler 248 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: Ross is doing research of life after death happened and Moody, 249 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: doctor Moody phenomenal. He was one of the pioneers. You know. 250 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: So when I started to enter or be redirected towards 251 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: this world of spirituality, metaphysics, life after death and reading 252 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: all these books. And back then when after the accident, 253 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: I had called Elizabeth that UCLA because I didn't know 254 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: what was happening to me. I was scared and spiritual 255 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: and weird, and she couldn't even help me. She couldn't 256 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: understand what I was asking me for. I was looking 257 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: for help. But as it calmed own and I started 258 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: redirecting and started reading or going to seminars or whatever, 259 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: it started to make sense. And you know, for people 260 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: that don't understand it, a lot of people are scared 261 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: of it. A lot of people think it's wacko. There's 262 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: a lot of skeptics. But I've overcome all of that 263 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: through my work that I just published an article last 264 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: week and I was trying to explain the difference about 265 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: the spiritual world and the physical world, and I equated 266 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: it to being in a swimming pool, and you know, 267 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: like you'll hold your breath, you sit and you cross 268 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: your legs for a moment, and you're down and you're 269 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: sitting in the shallow end, or you're in the deep end, 270 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: and you look up through the water and there's that 271 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: veil of water. Then you see the sun on the sky, 272 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: you see the film, and it's like if the physical 273 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: world's being underwater, but the special world's above the water. 274 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: There's these two different elements of life. And then I've 275 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: learned to bridge and walk both this and spiritually, where 276 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people are looking still the physical world 277 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: or trying to be in the spiritual world. But the 278 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: key what I have learned at this point is bringing 279 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: it all together for full joy. And that's where so 280 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: many people are missing. The boat no pun intended with 281 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: the water, but they don't know how to put it 282 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: all together from the past, the present and and and integrate. 283 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: And that's my job, hopefully to help them open up 284 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: and learn how they can calm it down and see 285 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: what's really inside them and not fear it. What about 286 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: the possibilities of prayer and its ability to work? How 287 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: do you think of that. I'm a big, big advocate 288 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: of prayer. I wasn't when I was a child. My 289 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: mom would put, I have two sisters, and you know, 290 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: say your prayers and say good night to God, and 291 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: you know I pray for this and pray them for that. 292 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: We'd be on our little knees. But as I got 293 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: old d I got away from prayer. The only time 294 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: I used to pray in high schools to get me 295 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: out of being grounded. When I was in troubles, okay, 296 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: I would talk to God, Please, I don't want to 297 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: be ground of prayer. A week I got to go 298 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: to the answer whatever. But as an adult, especially after 299 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: the accidents, I turned to prayer and prayers, talking to God, meditations, listening. 300 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: So the old statement be still, for I am God, 301 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: that's you, that's me. There's a God out there, there's 302 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: a God within us, and a God that speaks through 303 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: all of us. I learned all of that and I 304 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: would test it, and I wholeheartedly believe prayer heels not 305 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: always are a prayers answered in our time, because we 306 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: want it now and yesterday. But in the big scheme 307 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: of things, prayer is absolutely powerful, and I think group 308 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: conscious prayers even more powerful the more we have. But 309 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: on a personal level, even if you're crying or in 310 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: that deep pain, I'll tell people, just get back to God, 311 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: just get back to praying, and you may feel a 312 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: little bettered, you may cry and purge, and all of 313 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: a sudden there's peace to give. Listen to more Coast 314 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: to Coast AM every weeknight at one a m. Eastern 315 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: and go to Coast to Coast am dot com for 316 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: more