Speaker 1: What's up, happy, our listeners, We're back and I'm Becca
Speaker 1: Kuprin and I'm Michelle Young, and we're so excited for
Speaker 1: this week to talk all about the episode of the Batcherettes,
Speaker 1: of course, and the ongoing journeys of our girls, Gabby
Speaker 1: and Rachel. And it's week five of the Batchearette, which
Speaker 1: it's going fast. It always does, but I feel like
Speaker 1: it's going extra fast. But I'm so happy to be
Speaker 1: back with you, Becca, because this week we are talking
Speaker 1: to Johnny, who is the man who proved you can
Speaker 1: be vulnerable and still fun during his one on one
Speaker 1: date with Gabby. Yes, Michelle, I'm so excited to have
Speaker 1: Johnny on because you just said it best. He proved
Speaker 1: he could be vulnerable and open up and talk about
Speaker 1: some deeper, heavier things but also still have fun, and
Speaker 1: I expected nothing less. I feel like that date started
Speaker 1: off on such a fun fresh foot for both of them,
Speaker 1: so I can't wait to pick his brain. And we
Speaker 1: did see some I don't ever want to say drama
Speaker 1: go down on this week's episode, but like we didn't
Speaker 1: see this little switchery with Logan, and because Johnny was
Speaker 1: actually there living with the guys, and when this firsthand,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to pick his brain on all of that.
Speaker 1: But before we bring him on, Michelle, you are glowing today.
Speaker 1: You have this like fresh summer face. I feel like,
Speaker 1: So I want to know, because I'm coming to Minnesota
Speaker 1: this week, what's good back in the homeland. Okay, I
Speaker 1: will say that I think I've heard this from multiple people,
Speaker 1: but this is probably the best Minnesota summer that I've
Speaker 1: had since in my twenty nine years old living. It's
Speaker 1: just been the weather. But every single day it's like
Speaker 1: blue skies, sunny. We don't have that gloomy weather. It rains,
Speaker 1: but it rains at night when you're sleeping, so you
Speaker 1: like have that sound noise to fall asleep in. And
Speaker 1: it's just I've been able to get out on the
Speaker 1: lakes so much because the weather has been consistent and
Speaker 1: you know, working out. Hey, yeah, at the pool, it's
Speaker 1: been it's been really nice and needed. Yes, exactly. Well,
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I'm hoping, you know, I'm doing like
Speaker 1: a little quick family trip with my mom and sister
Speaker 1: before my sister has her second baby, so it's like
Speaker 1: a little girl's weekend. But maybe if I can sneak
Speaker 1: away you and I can grab a drink or something.
Speaker 1: Which love that I don't know, Okay, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're like as big of a foodie as I am.
Speaker 1: But like every time I know I'm coming back to Minnesota,
Speaker 1: I stack up on reservations where it's like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: have to go for sure to Barlagrassa because it has
Speaker 1: the best pasta. I have to go to Lynden Hills
Speaker 1: to like my favorite bookstore, to get smash and shows
Speaker 1: ice cream. Like I want to know and if anyone
Speaker 1: either lives in Minnesota or if you're if you happen
Speaker 1: to visit there, Michelle, what are your favorite go to spots?
Speaker 1: Oh see, I feel like I don't even want to
Speaker 1: share that because then I don't want people to go there,
Speaker 1: Like I want it to be a favorite, Okay, the
Speaker 1: best place? You know, yeah, one or two? I am.
Speaker 1: I'm very much a huge foodie like you Becca. Like
Speaker 1: if i know that I'm going to be going to
Speaker 1: an area, I look at the menu days before to
Speaker 1: kind of look at everything. But I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: you know, in Minnesota, I go to Cove and Wizetta
Speaker 1: on the Lake like that is my spot during the summer,
Speaker 1: just because I love the like the patio and that area,
Speaker 1: and then any chance I get to eat on the lake. Wait,
Speaker 1: have you had Cove's big ass ice cream cake? I
Speaker 1: probably had nearly everything on the Cove menu. That's okay.
Speaker 1: So you're coming back to Minneapolis, Minnesota, you're spending some
Speaker 1: time here, but you have a lot going on where
Speaker 1: you're at catch us up to speak to say the least. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't even know where to begin. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: we've talked about this before Thomas night. Are you know
Speaker 1: fresh in this new house? Um total demolition mess. He
Speaker 1: the entire house is complete, letely gutted. There's not one
Speaker 1: room where we're not doing work. It's been a struggle,
Speaker 1: and I mean, I don't know about anyone out there.
Speaker 1: Like I'm very organized, very type A Like I need
Speaker 1: to have a proper place and space and everything for everything,
Speaker 1: and I don't have that currently, So I am losing
Speaker 1: my gosh, dang mind. I Like I joke with Thomas.
Speaker 1: I love him so much, but I'm like, I might
Speaker 1: divorce you before we're even married because this has been
Speaker 1: such a crazy time. But but it's actually really cool. Too,
Speaker 1: because Thomas is so in his element. He is so
Speaker 1: great about building and fixing and working on projects and
Speaker 1: like having this vision of this house come together. So
Speaker 1: it's been really cool to see the baby steps and
Speaker 1: like see him, I mean honestly, to see him get
Speaker 1: like down and dirty and sweaty. It's a sexy pin
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but Wan who can build. It's so nice
Speaker 1: and I like, I honestly like should not complain because
Speaker 1: he has been so incredible and it's gonna be lovely
Speaker 1: once it's finally done and we make this space our own.
Speaker 1: But it's a process of getting there. So that's why
Speaker 1: I'm happy I have outlets like this where we can
Speaker 1: have our girl chat and do the podcast and get
Speaker 1: away from all that craziness. So that's done. Five episode
Speaker 1: of Extra Chips. We'll take some extra chips for you.
Speaker 1: I might not even leave min I might come back
Speaker 1: this week and just stay there for the next couple
Speaker 1: months until this is done. Like I canceled. It's really weird. Sorry, Thomas,
Speaker 1: you can watch the dogs for the next three months
Speaker 1: right while you're really in a house. Cool, thanks brother, buddy. No,
Speaker 1: but it's yeah, it's been interesting and speaking of interesting.
Speaker 1: I want to pick your brain on this week's episode, because,
Speaker 1: as you said, it's week five, we're halfway through. I
Speaker 1: don't know about you. Were you shocked when I think
Speaker 1: it was Rachel at the beginning of the episode said like,
Speaker 1: hometowns are in two weeks. Yeah, that caught me off guard.
Speaker 1: I actually rewinded a little bit to make sure that
Speaker 1: I heard everything correctly. Yeah, two weeks. I feel like
Speaker 1: we just got started to same two weeks we're already
Speaker 1: in hometown So I'm my damn, this season is flying by. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that caught me off guard. And that was like a
Speaker 1: reality check of you know, just kind of really looking
Speaker 1: to see, like which conversations still need to be had,
Speaker 1: and wow, I just it's fine, they're just getting started.
Speaker 1: Um okay. I think the main like one of the
Speaker 1: main themes of this week or like you know, things
Speaker 1: that took place is with Logan, and we kind of
Speaker 1: saw the start of it last week as he's he
Speaker 1: was in Rachel's group dating Rachel, but still like thinking
Speaker 1: about Gabby. I mean, this week we saw the full
Speaker 1: switcher rou and we don't necessarily need to get into
Speaker 1: all of those details, but I actually want to ask
Speaker 1: you this, Michelle, because I'm you know, as I'm watching,
Speaker 1: I'm putting myself back in the mindset of the back
Speaker 1: and like, if I was in this position, how would
Speaker 1: I react? How would I handle things? Would I do
Speaker 1: things the same or different? So, if Logan came to you,
Speaker 1: say you were along with Rachel and you were both Batchlrettes.
Speaker 1: If Logan came to you and was like, I am
Speaker 1: leaving Rachel's group and I want to still pursue things
Speaker 1: with you because I can't get you out of my mind,
Speaker 1: what would you have done? I honestly would have handled
Speaker 1: it exactly how Gabby did that in that situation is
Speaker 1: just her navigating everything with Rachel to make sure that
Speaker 1: they have that open line of communication, especially in such
Speaker 1: a unique situation where there's going to be like a
Speaker 1: lot of sticky, sticky situations when you have two different
Speaker 1: bachelorettes in this episode. And I'm kind of actually surprised
Speaker 1: that it didn't happen before this point, and I'm also
Speaker 1: surprised that, yeah, that we just didn't see more of it.
Speaker 1: And so the fact that Gabby paused to go speak
Speaker 1: to Rachel to get her thoughts on it and really
Speaker 1: work through it, because this isn't something that anybody has
Speaker 1: been through before, and so it's like there's not a
Speaker 1: real book on how to navigate it. But I guess
Speaker 1: my question is would you have kept Logan around? But
Speaker 1: I mean it does depend on the connection, Like that's
Speaker 1: the hard part is like it truly does. If you
Speaker 1: have a deep connection with that person you at week five,
Speaker 1: you actually feel that that person like you were sad
Speaker 1: that you weren't continuing to date them, then maybe I
Speaker 1: would possibly consider it. But I don't know. Okay for me, Okay,
Speaker 1: so here's where I sug Here's where I struggle with it.
Speaker 1: My connection with that person would have already had to
Speaker 1: be at a very deep point to keep that person around.
Speaker 1: But that being said, if I felt that deeply and
Speaker 1: then they didn't, then I don't know. Back, I don't
Speaker 1: know what are your thoughts, like, how would how would
Speaker 1: you navigate this? I mean, I agree with you. I
Speaker 1: think the fact that Gabby went to Rachel and was
Speaker 1: able to have this conversation a shows the level of
Speaker 1: respect that they have for each other, but also just
Speaker 1: their friendship, right, Like It's another key moment throughout the
Speaker 1: season that we've seen time and again of like they
Speaker 1: have each other's backs and they truly care about each other.
Speaker 1: But I personally don't think I would have kept Logan around,
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why, for a couple of reasons. One,
Speaker 1: he's already missed two vital weeks and time is really
Speaker 1: of the essence, and as we know, we always talk
Speaker 1: about how important time is, and he's already missed two
Speaker 1: out of the five weeks. So there's already two out
Speaker 1: of five weeks that have been missing time with each other,
Speaker 1: right and times of the essence. And also I had
Speaker 1: something similar happened on my season where a guy got
Speaker 1: injured on a date, had to go home, had to
Speaker 1: have surgery. He was away for a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: and I was actually offered the opportunity to bring him back,
Speaker 1: and it was I think the same type frame week
Speaker 1: five or six, and I said no because I at
Speaker 1: that point with the men I had been dating and
Speaker 1: that I had formed connections with them that I was
Speaker 1: invested with, I was like, I can't do this to
Speaker 1: these men who I care about, because I know that
Speaker 1: it's going to backtrack a bit with them. And so
Speaker 1: I think and again like if there's a connection there,
Speaker 1: explore it. Like I'm just giving my opinion and what
Speaker 1: I would do, which is not the same as what
Speaker 1: somebody else would do, And that's okay. I think the
Speaker 1: way everything was handled was very mature, very respectful, truly
Speaker 1: the best way anything could have transpired in this scenario.
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't have done the same thing probably. I
Speaker 1: just it's so hard when you're not there, you know, right,
Speaker 1: you just gotta follow your gut. But would Yeah, but
Speaker 1: how I mean, like for you personally if that were
Speaker 1: to happen, Like I'm sure you, because you're an empathetic person,
Speaker 1: you would feel for the men that you were already
Speaker 1: so involved with. Yeah, yeah, definitely, I definitely would. I
Speaker 1: think I have a hard time jumping into that because
Speaker 1: like in my head, I'm thinking, okay, so if like
Speaker 1: Logan were to come back, and I'm like, I just
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's I can't put myself in the
Speaker 1: pisos because I'm like, I don't I'm not dating Logan,
Speaker 1: so who knows, well, okay, who knows. But I do
Speaker 1: get what you say. I do get what you're saying.
Speaker 1: It's just it really depends though, because it's all factors
Speaker 1: of what's going on, because all factors of like what
Speaker 1: you know, how the other guys are handling, how your
Speaker 1: other relationships are progressing, how maybe they're not progressing. So
Speaker 1: it really, it really truly depends on your relationships and
Speaker 1: what you have with all the other people. Yeah, was
Speaker 1: there any other key moments that really stuck out to
Speaker 1: you that you want to highlight right now? I just
Speaker 1: feel like Gabby is in a place where she really
Speaker 1: is challenging herself to open up and in this path
Speaker 1: like this past week, I felt like I got to
Speaker 1: see that even more so because you are getting into um,
Speaker 1: you know, the really deep conversations and and and she
Speaker 1: has been very vocal about that's really difficult for her.
Speaker 1: But anytime she's speaking, it's just she's able to really
Speaker 1: speak clearly about her emotions and identify her emotions. And
Speaker 1: I think she's doing a wonderful job challenging the men
Speaker 1: then to do that as well. And they, you know,
Speaker 1: are able to sit down and open up and feel
Speaker 1: like they have like um almost like the structure of
Speaker 1: the conversation, if that makes sense, like structure be able
Speaker 1: to open up more and get into deeper, heavier things. Exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the definitely thing that I enjoyed so much
Speaker 1: this week. Um, okay, before we bring on Johnny, I
Speaker 1: have one final question about not even this particular episode,
Speaker 1: but mainly this episode, but everything leaving up. Is it
Speaker 1: just so apparent to you who Rachel's already know who
Speaker 1: her final two are going to be just from the interactions?
Speaker 1: It is the wait, you tell me, what are you
Speaker 1: so apparent? What are you looking at? I think just everything.
Speaker 1: I think her conversations, the way she talks about two men,
Speaker 1: in particular, the amount of screen time that two men
Speaker 1: in her group of guys. It's just like, I'm going
Speaker 1: into screen time and everything and I'm gonna but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna and I'm gonna say this once again. I say
Speaker 1: it week after week. I truly don't know who either
Speaker 1: of these women end up with. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't even know who is going to be final four
Speaker 1: at Hometowns, but like, I'm pretty sure I know who
Speaker 1: will be final two for Rachel. It is so apparent.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about the final two? Oh? I mean, like,
Speaker 1: what do you wanna do you want to identify or
Speaker 1: do you wanna do you want to identify the final
Speaker 1: two or now? Well, I will kind of. I mean,
Speaker 1: if I'm just I'm just prefacing this with this is
Speaker 1: just my This is just my opinion and from what
Speaker 1: I've seen. But right now, out of Rachel's what six
Speaker 1: or seven men left, she is all in Untino and
Speaker 1: Zach one thousand percent. I am calling it with just
Speaker 1: my own thoughts and opinions and being a critical thinker.
Speaker 1: Here it's those two and there's no competition. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: necessarily don't agree say that I agree with you at
Speaker 1: this point. Yes, I agree with you at this point.
Speaker 1: Do I know that things can drastically change? Yes? Who knows?
Speaker 1: Logan maybe trying to switch back and that times send
Speaker 1: them home. Rachel actually raised Chris back and begins to
Speaker 1: date him, is what you're saying, right, Okay? All right?
Speaker 1: So I said that's something anything can happen, but anything
Speaker 1: can truly happen on this show, I really can. All right, Well, Michelle,
Speaker 1: I mean, like always, I could chat with you forever,
Speaker 1: but we do have a guest ready and waiting, and
Speaker 1: it's time to bring on Johnny. He and Gabby's connection
Speaker 1: went to a whole other level this week during their
Speaker 1: first one on one together and again Michelle, he was vulnerable,
Speaker 1: he was fun. It was like the full combination of
Speaker 1: everything we love to see when people are dating on
Speaker 1: this show. So everybody please help us. Welcome Johnny to
Speaker 1: Happy Hour. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. Johnny. We are
Speaker 1: so excited that you are here with us. How are
Speaker 1: you doing? Thank I'm good, I'm good. Thank you for
Speaker 1: having me. This is amazing. Absolutely, Johnny. I need to
Speaker 1: know where are you from? Because I'm getting like Jersey
Speaker 1: vibes a little bit, But I no, you are. It's
Speaker 1: I'm from Jersey. But yeah, look at that you look
Speaker 1: me up. I know you. No, he's where no offense.
Speaker 1: I don't want any of you guys up until I
Speaker 1: know like you're the one at the very very end.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, um, yeah, I moved from Jersey and I
Speaker 1: was around fifteen, So there's a little Jersey twining in there.
Speaker 1: Okay now yeah, yeah for sure. But before we get
Speaker 1: into everything, how did you come about on this show?
Speaker 1: How did you actually get to be on the back Stort?
Speaker 1: How did I guess be on the TV show of
Speaker 1: the back stat Um? Yeah? Um, I actually, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to call it a breakup, but I kind
Speaker 1: of was in a relationship that didn't work out, and um,
Speaker 1: when it ended, I was kind of bummed, and my
Speaker 1: friends were kind of over me moping around. They're like,
Speaker 1: we gotta get this kid somewhere. So my one buddy
Speaker 1: decided to submit me and then um, yeah, the rest
Speaker 1: is history. Were you surprised, like did they tell you
Speaker 1: did find that was a complete surprise. Yeah. When they
Speaker 1: reached out and I was like this is not real
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, do we know anything about this?
Speaker 1: And they were like you're going on. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's do this. I want to get into There's a
Speaker 1: lot to impact with what you just said about, like
Speaker 1: how you actually got on the show, like you ended
Speaker 1: the relationship, which is, I know, something you and Gabby
Speaker 1: had talked about. But starting out just fresh Night one
Speaker 1: taken back to rite out of the Limos. Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: I mean we all we all say everyone nervous. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the one word everyone uses fresh and Limo
Speaker 1: is blacked out. But when you came out right away,
Speaker 1: were you pretty much fully focused on Gabby or were
Speaker 1: you like both of these women are beautiful. They're both great.
Speaker 1: Let's explore. Yeah, for the most part, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't have any expectations or anything, and I thought
Speaker 1: they were both beautiful. So I feel like I was
Speaker 1: going to go off of who I vibed with more,
Speaker 1: and you know, I kind of left that door open
Speaker 1: for you know, up until the first group date. And then, um,
Speaker 1: as you guys saw, I got the group date Rose,
Speaker 1: and I think that's when I knew. I was like,
Speaker 1: Gabby's all the way we did see the group date
Speaker 1: rowse Um the Speedo pageant right, Oh my god, Yeah
Speaker 1: I did that. I forgot. I'm so proud. I worked
Speaker 1: my ass off for that. I'm good. I resolutely I
Speaker 1: wish Right now, He's like, I actually have that group
Speaker 1: date Rose right behind me. I speed You kept it.
Speaker 1: It's hanging on his bulletin board behind him every course.
Speaker 1: I kept it. Yeah, I got it. Okay, but will
Speaker 1: you wear it whether you were on vacation to a beach.
Speaker 1: That's done. I hung that up. Yeah, He's like, you
Speaker 1: might see more of it one day, who knows that?
Speaker 1: So Okay, you won the first group date Rose. It
Speaker 1: was exciting, but then you had a few weeks. It
Speaker 1: wasn't until Belgium that you got the first one on one.
Speaker 1: So in between that time, when you were on group
Speaker 1: date after group date, at any point were you feeling
Speaker 1: kind of down of like when is it going to
Speaker 1: be my turn? I need that time, or like that
Speaker 1: that weird limbo phase before you got that one on one,
Speaker 1: like where was your mind at? Yeah, no, for sure,
Speaker 1: I think you know, I explained it as kind of
Speaker 1: like an emotional roller coaster, because you know there's potential
Speaker 1: and you know that this could you know, be your person,
Speaker 1: but you're just getting these small foundations. So you know,
Speaker 1: it was just it was small foundations that we kept
Speaker 1: building and building, and I was super upset, you know,
Speaker 1: every time I didn't get the one on one. But
Speaker 1: I just knew when I did get that one on one,
Speaker 1: we had build such a solid small foundation that it
Speaker 1: would be that much more amazing. And that's how I
Speaker 1: kind of looked at it through the whole process, because
Speaker 1: even I think this week, Gabby talks about how like
Speaker 1: your confidence, you know, you're the cool guy, you have confidence.
Speaker 1: Was there ever a moment though, where you started to
Speaker 1: doubt that and just feel uneasy before that one on
Speaker 1: one for sure. I feel like, I mean I kind
Speaker 1: of come into this whole thing not feeling so confident,
Speaker 1: and you know it's hard when there's thirty three, you know,
Speaker 1: amazing people there. So you know, I think you feel
Speaker 1: that the whole time. At least I did. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I lost checking the question. I apologize. So just to
Speaker 1: add on kind of to what Michelle was asking, I mean,
Speaker 1: I I was in your position many moons ago where
Speaker 1: I will remember, I mean I had a slightly different
Speaker 1: position than you because I actually got the very first
Speaker 1: one on one, but then there were I think it
Speaker 1: was like a five week span where I didn't get
Speaker 1: another one on one day and't have that like real
Speaker 1: alone intimate time with somebody, and people in between come
Speaker 1: back from these dates and they're like, oh, I established
Speaker 1: such a start connection, Like I'm totally into this girl,
Speaker 1: like there is something there. She could be my potential partner.
Speaker 1: And for you, I mean, you didn't get that one
Speaker 1: on one for five weeks. I'm sure you're seeing guys
Speaker 1: come home week after week. No. If you you definitely
Speaker 1: get in your feelings, you know, and then you're talking
Speaker 1: to them and you kind of realize the amazing time
Speaker 1: they had, and then you start to feel like you're
Speaker 1: you know, like you did build this crazy good foundation.
Speaker 1: Then you're like, okay, well, now where's it going. You know,
Speaker 1: you kind of ride this roller coaster up and now
Speaker 1: you're like coming back down, so you're kind of just
Speaker 1: waiting for that up again. So yeah, like I said,
Speaker 1: it was an up and down roller coaster with me,
Speaker 1: and I would go through there was days where I felt,
Speaker 1: you know, awful, where I was like, Okay, maybe I'm
Speaker 1: not the one and maybe I don't deserve to be here.
Speaker 1: And then you know, I speak with her for ten
Speaker 1: or fifteen minutes, I'm like, no, one hundred percent or
Speaker 1: something there, let's keep going. Yeah, that's amazing though, even
Speaker 1: just because it's such an unnatural situation, you two always
Speaker 1: seem to almost just not miss a beat, and so
Speaker 1: you finally receive your one on one. Oh yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you say? Wait, what do you say? Miss a beat?
Speaker 1: I'm just pictures the part where you guys are on
Speaker 1: your dates, smacking each other the leaves, like, definitely did
Speaker 1: not miss any beats in that moment. Terrible. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you have to be enjoying yourself in that moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like Loki loved it. But you know we're not
Speaker 1: going to talk about that. Gabby. The little freak flag
Speaker 1: was raised for sure. My wait, wait wait, wait wait
Speaker 1: did you just did you just say freak flag? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the freak flag was raised a little bit when Gabby
Speaker 1: was like, hit my face, so ridiculous. We had fun.
Speaker 1: We can't blushing, Johnny, I'm blushing right now. I'm so nervous.
Speaker 1: Don't be nervous. No more talking about we'll bring it back,
Speaker 1: We'll bring it back. But okay, so you finally get
Speaker 1: your one on one. How excited were you when you
Speaker 1: finally heard your name? Like you are finally going on
Speaker 1: this one on one day with Gabby. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: it means the world. You know. I feel like you
Speaker 1: know that that's the goal of the whole time. We're
Speaker 1: trying to get that one on one time and solidify
Speaker 1: you know, our place, and um yeah, you want it
Speaker 1: sooner than later. But you feel like you feel like
Speaker 1: you're on top of the world. Where did your mind
Speaker 1: go with it all? Like what did you have questions? Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to talk to her about this, this and this,
Speaker 1: Like did you have things that you for for the
Speaker 1: most part, yeah, um, every time we you know, like
Speaker 1: I said, every time we hung out, it was a
Speaker 1: small foundation, so I was just looking to kind of
Speaker 1: dive a little deeper than just the surface. Um. But
Speaker 1: also I know, you know, both Gabby and Rachel kind
Speaker 1: of you know, went through it last season, so I did,
Speaker 1: you know, for the most part, want to show Gabby
Speaker 1: a good time. So you know, for the first part,
Speaker 1: I really just wanted to focus on having fun with her.
Speaker 1: And you know, I feel like you kind of build
Speaker 1: that friendship first and then you know, those relationships are stronger,
Speaker 1: you know when you do have a friendship, and you know,
Speaker 1: so that's all I felt. It seems like you had
Speaker 1: a level of comfortability. Oh my gosh, am I saying
Speaker 1: that comfortability I can comfortability. Wow, I cannot talk ever.
Speaker 1: But it seems like like you just said, you built
Speaker 1: the solid foundation, and you guys did a couple interesting
Speaker 1: things on that date. You not only went to beer tasting,
Speaker 1: but you had this like spa like moment I think
Speaker 1: in a beer tub what like during the day. Portion
Speaker 1: was the craziest thing I've ever done in my entire life.
Speaker 1: And you were drinking it we were not supposed to
Speaker 1: be drinking it, but that was just me and Gabby
Speaker 1: just doing our thing. Was What was your favorite part
Speaker 1: overall of that one on one with Gabby? Oh my god, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was all amazing, But I think
Speaker 1: it's like the little moments like when I first saw
Speaker 1: her when I was walking to the farm. I think
Speaker 1: that was special. Um. And then m the date the
Speaker 1: night portion, you know, just kind of in like that
Speaker 1: bruise Times Square area and running around with her. I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, it just felt like a movie. So those
Speaker 1: like little moments like I'll remember, Yeah, so special for sure.
Speaker 1: And there's like those Okay, so now that you've gone
Speaker 1: through the show, you know that you can have fun
Speaker 1: with Gabby during the day. The day portion is all
Speaker 1: about laughing, doing whatever fun activity, uncomfortable, pushing outside your
Speaker 1: comfort zone. And then you get into the night portion
Speaker 1: and you do have those more serious conversations. And that
Speaker 1: was something that we hadn't seen between you and Gabby
Speaker 1: quite yet. Is that something like being that type of
Speaker 1: vulnerable of getting below the surface. Is that something that's
Speaker 1: incredibly important to you what I've learned from the show. Honestly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's something that you know, I really look
Speaker 1: look for in a relationship and I'm not super vulnerable,
Speaker 1: so it was hard for me. It was super hard
Speaker 1: to get like that, But you know, it's something I'm
Speaker 1: definitely working on still. And I think there's a whole
Speaker 1: process of falling in love, and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: there's certain steps you need to take, like building that connection,
Speaker 1: that friendship, and then getting vulnerable with someone and just
Speaker 1: letting them see all of you. So I think you
Speaker 1: know I was, I was trying to go through the
Speaker 1: process when I was doing that. Yeah, And I want
Speaker 1: to actually commend you for getting to that point to
Speaker 1: be able to open up about your past struggles with
Speaker 1: anxiety and depression, because I think it's a lot more
Speaker 1: common than people ever realize. And I love now that
Speaker 1: the fact is kind of highlighting those conversations a bit
Speaker 1: more where people don't necessarily feel like they're alone. And
Speaker 1: the point to that is, like you and Gabby were
Speaker 1: both able to share very similar stories about it. How
Speaker 1: did that moment feel when you were sitting there talking
Speaker 1: to her and opening up about these struggles. How did
Speaker 1: it feel to finally be able to let your guard
Speaker 1: down and I'm sure trust her a little bit more
Speaker 1: with that information. It was amazing. It was like I
Speaker 1: said it was, it was trusting the process and it
Speaker 1: kind of just made me realize, like this could you know,
Speaker 1: this could be real and there's potential and it's something
Speaker 1: I have never done with anyone, So you know, it
Speaker 1: kind of just put her in the light even more
Speaker 1: for me. And then the fact that she kind of
Speaker 1: reciprocated it and you know, kind of threw it back
Speaker 1: at me, I was like, Okay, there's people who are
Speaker 1: out here who feel the same, and you know, it's
Speaker 1: like you should never be too scared to you know,
Speaker 1: kind of work those things out. So it felt really
Speaker 1: good and I mean, she's made me a whole different person.
Speaker 1: I do completely disagree with back up, because not only
Speaker 1: are you being vulnerable, but you're being vulnerable in a
Speaker 1: situation where you know there's going to be other people
Speaker 1: watching it. Yeah, it's a lot, and it's really hard,
Speaker 1: and you don't know how Gabby is going to receive it,
Speaker 1: and you don't know necessarily how it's going to come off,
Speaker 1: and that is a lot, but there are so many
Speaker 1: benefits of opening up and for me, when you said it,
Speaker 1: you know, working you don't need to be scared. It's
Speaker 1: almost you can be scared. Just don't let that stop
Speaker 1: you from opening up. But you let it stop you though, right, No, No,
Speaker 1: because you know, I thought, if if I'm really here
Speaker 1: and I'm really trying to figure this out with this person,
Speaker 1: like you gotta go for it. You can't just hold back.
Speaker 1: And you know, and I saw that, you know, she
Speaker 1: was cool with me and she would have my back,
Speaker 1: so that was cool with it. But scared shitless, no doubt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well I get it. I get it too, and even now,
Speaker 1: like it's one thing to be having those conversations in
Speaker 1: front of the person that you're dating months ago when
Speaker 1: you're filming, and it's going to probably be a whole
Speaker 1: different ballgame for you now that it's airing and the
Speaker 1: world is watching you back. And I really hope that
Speaker 1: and I am pretty confident to say that, I'm sure
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of support behind you and
Speaker 1: a lot of people reaching out who have been through
Speaker 1: something similar and they thank you for being open because
Speaker 1: now they maybe feel like they can. And so I
Speaker 1: want to know if you're comfortable talking about it. We
Speaker 1: Michelle and I and I'm sure our listeners would love
Speaker 1: to know kind of how you've dealt with these struggles
Speaker 1: throughout your life or what tools that you have learned
Speaker 1: within maybe recent months of how to help you cope
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. Well, first off, I think my mom
Speaker 1: is a huge person in my life. So anytime I'm
Speaker 1: feeling like this, I definitely bounce things off my mom.
Speaker 1: So she's been a huge tool with just kind of
Speaker 1: you know, when I feel down or you know, even depressed,
Speaker 1: just kind of speaking with someone and then don't be
Speaker 1: afraid to seek help. You know. I've seen therapists and
Speaker 1: it's a huge help. And I think, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a tool that I'm trying to use more and more
Speaker 1: as you know, I get older, and I just don't
Speaker 1: care what people think. And I think that's like the
Speaker 1: biggest part. Yeah, I mean, get the help you need
Speaker 1: and just you'll feel a hundred times better because there's
Speaker 1: certain things and there's there's there's reasons why you feel
Speaker 1: like this, and I feel like they're underlining and sometimes
Speaker 1: you don't always know, and there's people out there that
Speaker 1: can help you. So for the longest time, I kept
Speaker 1: it bottled up, and I think it's ruined relationships and
Speaker 1: and yeah, I just feel so much better now that
Speaker 1: I can kind of just take care of it and
Speaker 1: just not care what people think. Yeah, I love everything
Speaker 1: that you just said, I think. I mean, kudos to
Speaker 1: you for speaking out about it. I mean, I personally
Speaker 1: have found therapy life changing. It's so incredible. And there's
Speaker 1: I think the pastor's been such a stigma around it,
Speaker 1: you know, where it kind of receives a negative connotation,
Speaker 1: which is so so so not the case. And if
Speaker 1: it can help you live better mentally, physically, whatever, emotionally, anything,
Speaker 1: go for it. And so thank you for sharing. You'll
Speaker 1: be a hundred times better if you just seek the
Speaker 1: help A thousand thousand percent I said, struggling or not. Though,
Speaker 1: struggling or not, you don't have that struggle with therapists,
Speaker 1: a life coach, anything, right. My therapist is like my
Speaker 1: best friend I ever on speed dial. Yeah, everyone likes great.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's up? Stuff? Can me tell you? For you?
Speaker 1: Watching everything back and watching yourself, um go through just
Speaker 1: these entire first five weeks. Um, it's weird for sure?
Speaker 1: Is that a correct word? Weird? Um, it's weird for sure,
Speaker 1: but um, it's like a growing process too. I feel
Speaker 1: like watching it and kind of just replaying everything and
Speaker 1: you know, the whole, the whole, you know, experience is
Speaker 1: a process, and it's definitely a growing process for sure.
Speaker 1: So um, I enjoy it. It's definitely weird to watch,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, I feel like I'm learning
Speaker 1: so much from it. Yeah, I love Michelle. I love
Speaker 1: that question, and I want to follow up to that,
Speaker 1: because every everyone who's a contestant, I think can attest
Speaker 1: to this at some point. It's like when you're filming
Speaker 1: and you're living it in the moment, it's one thing, right,
Speaker 1: like that's your experience, it's in real time, but now
Speaker 1: months later when you watch it back, it's vastly different.
Speaker 1: When you're living it right, when you're in the moment,
Speaker 1: you know, you have your one perception in your reality
Speaker 1: of everything that you're going through, and then months later
Speaker 1: when it airs back, there's so much more that you're
Speaker 1: probably seen at this point that you're hearing that you
Speaker 1: maybe didn't know what was happening in the moment. What
Speaker 1: is that like, Like, is there a lot more that
Speaker 1: you're learning about Gabby or the men that you didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily see in real time months ago. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: I think there's you know, there's a lot of interviews
Speaker 1: we didn't get to see that Gabby went through, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of emotions that we didn't get to
Speaker 1: see Gabby go through. So it's super upsetting at times,
Speaker 1: you know, even just the guys in the house, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like you see a lot more that you
Speaker 1: don't see, And there's a lot that goes on behind
Speaker 1: closed doors that you know. As much as we already gather,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of the times we aren't together. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you learn a lot about everyone, even yourself. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: is just it is such an odd situation. It's a
Speaker 1: steep win and curb that honesty. Even Patrol Nation audience
Speaker 1: won't understand to a certain degree of experiencing it, like
Speaker 1: Becca said, and then also experiencing watching it back, having
Speaker 1: everybody watch it back, and then having social media involved.
Speaker 1: But I do have to ask such and geage just
Speaker 1: a little bit. Okay, when you found out that Logan
Speaker 1: was leaving Rachel's team or made a decision to pursue Gabby,
Speaker 1: that is something that you guys were aware of and
Speaker 1: that you did experience to a certain extent. What were
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that? Um, I'm gonna be you know,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent honest. Logan definitely leads with his heart
Speaker 1: and what he did, what he felt. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, on our side, we knew that we have
Speaker 1: gone through so much with Gabby already, so we were
Speaker 1: very much like, well, you know, he did what he
Speaker 1: thought was best for him and and that's amazing, But
Speaker 1: we were also like, well, now we're going to lose
Speaker 1: someone who you know, who's been with Gabby through the
Speaker 1: whole process. So it was very up and down, very
Speaker 1: up and down. But you know, yeah, it was a
Speaker 1: reird situation for sure. Is that? But okay, so it's
Speaker 1: it's the first season with two Batch slorettes, you guys talk.
Speaker 1: Is that something that was spoken about at the house.
Speaker 1: That is for sure a possibility that that could happen,
Speaker 1: for sure, very realistic. It's realistic. It's a possibility. I
Speaker 1: think when they announced two Batch serettes, the first thing
Speaker 1: that goes to your head was like, okay, well, what
Speaker 1: if you're into both, or what if both like you,
Speaker 1: or what if you make a connection with both of them,
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think it's a test to
Speaker 1: Logan's character. I think if anything, it shows, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe he was a likable person and both these girls
Speaker 1: did have feelings for him. You know, I'm playing Devil's advocate,
Speaker 1: but well, and that was something that was said is
Speaker 1: both women. I think Gabby was like he was the
Speaker 1: only guy that there was that overlap that we were
Speaker 1: both into him. I feel like the other men it
Speaker 1: was more clear cut, and with him, they were both like,
Speaker 1: he's a cool dude. We're kind of vibing with him
Speaker 1: for sure. And you and you know, it's not just
Speaker 1: us too. We thought, you know, what if they were
Speaker 1: into both of us and or you know, both of
Speaker 1: them into one of us, and we knew that it
Speaker 1: would happen with someone eventually it had to, So you know,
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing. I just think,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Logan is a likable person and these
Speaker 1: two girls. You know, I thought he was a cool
Speaker 1: dude for sure. So Okay, the way that the Rose
Speaker 1: ceremonies are structured, it's because there are two leads. It's
Speaker 1: slightly different from what we've seen. So once you guys
Speaker 1: received the rows, you go down into a separate room,
Speaker 1: so you don't know necessarily who's going to be walking
Speaker 1: down the stairs, who's going to be going to the
Speaker 1: other groups men, you know, who got the rows with
Speaker 1: the other woman. So when it was Logan who got
Speaker 1: the last rose from Gabby and he walked down and
Speaker 1: we saw Mario and Michael go home, what did that
Speaker 1: feel like? Because I'm sure even if it sounds like,
Speaker 1: Logan got along with most of you, and he's a
Speaker 1: pretty cool dude, but at the same time, I feel
Speaker 1: like there's still this level of respector this like precedent
Speaker 1: set of like, you know, Mario and Michael were here
Speaker 1: since the beginning with her, and they were all in
Speaker 1: with her, and we've spent five weeks together with Gabby.
Speaker 1: So when you saw Logan as the last person to
Speaker 1: walk down the stairs, what was the collective in that room?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's exactly how you put it. It was
Speaker 1: mixed emotions for sure, because Logan did get along with everyone,
Speaker 1: and he was very much a shoulder for people to
Speaker 1: lean on, you know, and Logan and me are the
Speaker 1: same age. He's twenty five, twenty six, and I considered
Speaker 1: him an older brother because anything I need to talk
Speaker 1: about he was there, so he got along with one.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, Michael and Mario
Speaker 1: have been there and you know they were like like
Speaker 1: brothers too, So it was very strange and um, it
Speaker 1: was mixed. It was mixed emotions, truly, like the best
Speaker 1: way to put it. You know, no one was too happy,
Speaker 1: no one was too upset, but it was just very
Speaker 1: like dull. You know, there was like an airy didn't
Speaker 1: I don't ever look at like the legit not. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess the logistic is maybe the correct word. But
Speaker 1: this is a really fast process as it is, and
Speaker 1: so like when you're having to choose teams, you're losing
Speaker 1: out on like getting to know somebody, and you know,
Speaker 1: if you do want an engagement at the end or
Speaker 1: whatever you're looking for, you want it to be successful.
Speaker 1: Did anyone on Gabby's side really feel that Logan would
Speaker 1: just not have enough time to get to know Gabby
Speaker 1: and vice versa because of this late switch. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it did feel like that too. It also felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, it was really late in the process and
Speaker 1: it would be hard to you know, kind of go
Speaker 1: through with the whole thing. Knowing you only had this
Speaker 1: amount of time left. Um. But also I think more
Speaker 1: so for Logan, it was just like, what if I
Speaker 1: didn't do it? And I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: felt like that. A lot of people did choose one
Speaker 1: person and they were, you know, saying, how like, well,
Speaker 1: what if it was her? We never got to experience it.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, who was saying that besides Logan spilled Ah,
Speaker 1: that is the piece of information that everyone wants now.
Speaker 1: So as you were, just as you were just speaking this,
Speaker 1: that crossed my mind that at this point, I mean, collectively,
Speaker 1: there's still a decent amount of you guys left. And
Speaker 1: usually in past seasons there's a lot of drama between
Speaker 1: the men or at least a couple of the men,
Speaker 1: and really the season, we haven't seen any of that
Speaker 1: besides early on with Chris, who obviously left very early.
Speaker 1: It's mainly were So the drama that we're witnessing is
Speaker 1: the women trying to feel like, you know, are the
Speaker 1: men here for me? And are they going to chump ship?
Speaker 1: It's this is like unlike anything we have ever seen before.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't want to say, you're living in
Speaker 1: a moment right now, Johnny, but you are. And I
Speaker 1: guess that leads to my question for you, because you
Speaker 1: were living with all these guys, like, was there any
Speaker 1: drama between you as individuals that we aren't seeing or
Speaker 1: was it mainly just like the situation with two leads. Personally,
Speaker 1: I think it was more so the situation with two leads.
Speaker 1: I think as a whole of the group really did
Speaker 1: get along with each other. And it was weird too,
Speaker 1: because we would sit around like, you know, there's really
Speaker 1: not a whole lot of drama or beef with anyone,
Speaker 1: and you know, we didn't. You know, we knew that
Speaker 1: past season there was crazy drama. So I think it
Speaker 1: was more so with the leads and kind of just
Speaker 1: deciding and things like that. But personally me, no, I
Speaker 1: didn't really have, you know, drama or anything with anyone.
Speaker 1: A lot of us in the house where you shoulders
Speaker 1: to lean on. It was just a really good group
Speaker 1: of guys. Well, I was gonna say, you guys kind
Speaker 1: of looked out with I know, it's it's weird and
Speaker 1: no one really knew how to handle it because this
Speaker 1: is the first time, But you guys really did, I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, not only with your traveling and living on
Speaker 1: a cruise ship. But you did luck out with how
Speaker 1: it's all coming together as a whole. For sure. For sure,
Speaker 1: it's been an amazing experience. Okay, so you said you've
Speaker 1: said this about yourself and then as well as logan,
Speaker 1: just being a shoulder to lean on through this experience
Speaker 1: is because you're not talking to friends, you're not talking
Speaker 1: to family, You're truly like going through this very very unique,
Speaker 1: unique situation. How did you how did you not comfort?
Speaker 1: I guess maybe comfort? How did you like help men
Speaker 1: who are leaning on your shoulder but they're also dating
Speaker 1: the person that you're dating, So how did you handle that?
Speaker 1: Honestly that I got advice from Gabby on that when
Speaker 1: we talked, and I'm not sure if they even showed it,
Speaker 1: but she just told me that you have to compartmentalize,
Speaker 1: you know, And that was from her, so I kind
Speaker 1: of took and that was from the beginning. So I
Speaker 1: took that with me through the whole process. And you know,
Speaker 1: I've been you know, through relationships and just through things
Speaker 1: in life to where I thought I had enough knowledge
Speaker 1: and wisdom to where when people did want to come
Speaker 1: and lean on me, I was there for them, and
Speaker 1: you know, we did just compartmentalize, and you know, my
Speaker 1: relationship with Gabby was separate from everyone else, so I
Speaker 1: kind of looked at it like that, and and it's
Speaker 1: such a weird experience because you know, you're dating this
Speaker 1: girl with thirty three other people. When can you do that?
Speaker 1: Never'll never get it out of me. It's close book
Speaker 1: over here. I'm not like that. I'm not like that,
Speaker 1: But you just have to compartmentalize. And I think you
Speaker 1: know I would. I would reach that too to everyone there.
Speaker 1: Just my relationships separate than yours. You know, you may
Speaker 1: have a different experience with Gabby than I may, so
Speaker 1: let's just treat it like different relationships and we're all
Speaker 1: here for each other and whatever they need. You know,
Speaker 1: I was there. It was a very very good group
Speaker 1: of people. So you know, who are you out of
Speaker 1: all of the men, who are you still super close with? Um?
Speaker 1: You know, me and Logan talk a lot. Um. Eric
Speaker 1: is like my brother Eric. He's like a Viking um
Speaker 1: And Quincy. Quincy was literally like from day one. I
Speaker 1: think I walked in and we just hugged each other
Speaker 1: just out of nowhere. And Quincy was like he said
Speaker 1: something He's like, if it doesn't work out with me
Speaker 1: and Gabby, I want you to meet my family. And
Speaker 1: I was saying, I got you. Oh I love that.
Speaker 1: He seems like he had just good energy lifted them funny.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, those three I'm pretty close with
Speaker 1: for sure. Okay, what about Hayden Um, I'm not really
Speaker 1: supposed to hate him a whole lot, but no facial expression,
Speaker 1: hold on something. Okay. I do have a question, and
Speaker 1: this is not related to really the show, but when
Speaker 1: you were on your one on one date with Gabby
Speaker 1: and also at the top of this episode, you had
Speaker 1: mentioned prior to coming on to the Bachelorette you had
Speaker 1: just gotten out somewhat recently of a relationship. So I
Speaker 1: need to ask the hard hitting questions. Number one, how
Speaker 1: soon was it out of that relationship that you came
Speaker 1: on the show? And because we've seen this in the past. Two,
Speaker 1: is there any I want to say, like maybe worry
Speaker 1: or hesitancy in the back of your mind where it's
Speaker 1: like your X would come and be like he you know,
Speaker 1: we've seen shavy shit in the past where he didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily break up with me, or you know, I thought
Speaker 1: we were still talking or still together before you left,
Speaker 1: anything like that that could potentially come out. Um, no,
Speaker 1: not at all. I think you know, the relationship that
Speaker 1: I kind of was bummed about, if you want to
Speaker 1: call it that, I can't give her too much credit. Um,
Speaker 1: it was like a year before I went on the show.
Speaker 1: Oh so it was a while, so okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it was kind of like, you know, and then
Speaker 1: you go through the process of trying to get on
Speaker 1: the show, and then by the time like we started filming,
Speaker 1: it's been maybe a year if that. Okay. I thought
Speaker 1: when you said when you mentioned it on the show,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, did he just get out
Speaker 1: of relationship last week because he ain't ready to get engaged? Well,
Speaker 1: did come off like it was super soon. But now
Speaker 1: that I'm even just like watching your body language and
Speaker 1: how you're experiencing it, it's just more of like you
Speaker 1: really really cared, you were hurt by it. With me,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I never dated a lot. You know, I've
Speaker 1: been like, you know, a month or two month relationships,
Speaker 1: and you know, I had one serious girlfriend when I
Speaker 1: was in high school, and then you know, after that
Speaker 1: was pretty much single and just and then I finally
Speaker 1: found someone who I was like, okay, I could see
Speaker 1: myself with this person, and it just went south and
Speaker 1: I was just like I'm not doing this, like I'm done,
Speaker 1: like it's not for me. Relationships don't work out, and
Speaker 1: then you know, I was like, let's give it another shot.
Speaker 1: But so how daunting was that going from shortish relationships
Speaker 1: to then potentially being like I could get engaged by
Speaker 1: the end of this. Well, I think with me, you know,
Speaker 1: it was more so I have gone through the emotions
Speaker 1: of what I want and you know, just relationships and
Speaker 1: just being on dates and just you know, the person
Speaker 1: I want to be with. So I always said, you know,
Speaker 1: the next person I do end up you know, calling
Speaker 1: my girlfriend or whatever, like I'm going to marry that person,
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to waste any time. And I
Speaker 1: was just like, I know what I want now, Like
Speaker 1: if if I don't see something serious or like a
Speaker 1: real commitment, like I'm not gonna commit to you. So
Speaker 1: I always said, you know, if I found that person
Speaker 1: and the person, the next person I do commit to,
Speaker 1: like I'm committing to her forever, Yes, and we land
Speaker 1: on that one. I love a mature man Okay, you
Speaker 1: just knocked it out of the John I love it
Speaker 1: swing too that you just stand. I'm like, hey, look
Speaker 1: at that energy. Look at that energy. You I feel
Speaker 1: like you relieved. This is like I'm just not can'ting
Speaker 1: just like I'm done. He's like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: almost done. I feel so happy. Off my shoulders. Okay,
Speaker 1: heavy hitting questions are over. This one might be tough
Speaker 1: because you got to kind of keep it short. But
Speaker 1: we ask every guest on here too, without giving too
Speaker 1: much away, to give us a teaser of what to
Speaker 1: expect from the rest of Gabby and Rachel's season. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get in trouble. I've been getting in trouble. What
Speaker 1: can I say? Give it to us. Is the place
Speaker 1: to do it the rest of the season. H um
Speaker 1: wild West. I think it gets crazier. Oh, I think.
Speaker 1: I think there's no idea how I feel about that.
Speaker 1: I'm just picturing you guys like roaming through Montana on horseback,
Speaker 1: blowing in the wind, right back on the cruise ship.
Speaker 1: Let's go turn it around. Well, Johnny, it has been
Speaker 1: awesome talking with you. We do love our games here
Speaker 1: on Bachelor Happy Hours. We're gonna do a little getting
Speaker 1: to know you game, and it's called rapid fire. I
Speaker 1: want to throw a question at you and you have
Speaker 1: to answer, like on the spot. So it's gonna be
Speaker 1: super quick. Ready, I'm really good at this, so let's
Speaker 1: oh wow, okay, you set it, set the bar, then
Speaker 1: let up. Are you an early riser or a night owl? Both? Okay?
Speaker 1: Best dating advice you ever received? Oh what if it
Speaker 1: can turn out better than you imagine? How do you
Speaker 1: like the pizza? That is good? Dominum? How do you
Speaker 1: let you be Chris? Chrispy? For sure? Chris? Okay, what
Speaker 1: is your signature dance move? You have to show it
Speaker 1: and tell us? Ye show it. I'm gonna brace something.
Speaker 1: It's okay? Um like go backflip? Do you have room
Speaker 1: to do? It? Is it is? It's got your take out,
Speaker 1: your yourr headphones. That's your dance move. Okay, okay, don't
Speaker 1: hear them, don't don't show us here. But when we
Speaker 1: see you at either Mental or the finale, we will
Speaker 1: be expecting a full black backflip. You'll you'll see a
Speaker 1: backflip that. What's your favorite curse word? Mmm? What's that one? TikTok?
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know. Fuck. What is your guilty pleasure?
Speaker 1: Flaming out Cheetos? M M. What is your go to
Speaker 1: karaoke song? So I've done karaoke once and it was
Speaker 1: fifty cent pimp, So I'm gonna go with that. He
Speaker 1: actually is good at this game. I like he is
Speaker 1: the rapid fire, which I appreciate. What is the current
Speaker 1: screensaver on your phone? My dog passed away? If you
Speaker 1: could visit anywhere in the world, where would you go? Italy?
Speaker 1: My family from Italian I've never been. Okay, last one,
Speaker 1: What is one word I've kind of kind of asked
Speaker 1: you already this What is one word to describe the
Speaker 1: rest of the season besides wild West? Because that's stuffically
Speaker 1: too um hm, and no, come on, I need a
Speaker 1: good word here. He was gonna say inspirational, Say inspirational,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Inspiration. You were going to say inspirational art.
Speaker 1: I think I was gonna say insanity, but inspiration. I
Speaker 1: was like, I like inspirational better. And then Rebecca said
Speaker 1: falk and I was like, I was like, I thought,
Speaker 1: you not wild West an operational same thing we are.
Speaker 1: So I feel like we're on a whole new level.
Speaker 1: He just called me Rebecca, which only my mother does
Speaker 1: Rebecca Rebecca Okay, Jonathan or is it just Johnny? It's John? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm the I'm the third, so I go by Johnny.
Speaker 1: There's too many of us. It's like a huge, huge
Speaker 1: Italian family and everyone thinks it's cool to name their
Speaker 1: kids John. Yeah. I was gonna say this kind of
Speaker 1: like the Pope, like John Paul the third or something.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I guess I have to name
Speaker 1: my kid John. Yeah, you have a trend going on.
Speaker 1: Um all right, John the Third before we let you go.
Speaker 1: It's that you just don't have a filter, and I
Speaker 1: love it. Take no shit. It is that time to
Speaker 1: share your rose and thorn of this week's episode or
Speaker 1: I guess of well, it's not even this episode, right,
Speaker 1: it's just everything. So up until this point, we want
Speaker 1: your rose and your thorn. So your best or favorite
Speaker 1: moment and then the messiest or your least favorite. Um.
Speaker 1: The rose for me would be a hundred percent walking
Speaker 1: onto that farm with Gabby, no doubt that, the one
Speaker 1: on one to the brewery, So that was you know,
Speaker 1: that was a highlight. I had so much fun. Um
Speaker 1: and then a thorn. Does it have to be something
Speaker 1: that you guys saw or can this be like it
Speaker 1: could be anything anything you experienced, Like we love behind
Speaker 1: the scenes too, so um yeah, so a thorn for
Speaker 1: me is right before he flew to Paris, I woke
Speaker 1: up with like an insane pimple on my neck and like, no,
Speaker 1: this thing was like Quincy described as being an alien
Speaker 1: growing out of my neck. So I wore a bandana
Speaker 1: around my neck through the whole trip to Paris. And
Speaker 1: we need this on the Bloopers. Someone needs it. They
Speaker 1: have video footage and me walking around with a bandana
Speaker 1: tied around my neck. If you were like, what's he
Speaker 1: trying to of? Like, dude, is this a fashion statement?
Speaker 1: And I'm like no, there's an alien like in my neck. Wait,
Speaker 1: we're gonna see actual footage of like guys in a
Speaker 1: few weeks, like all putting bandanas around their necks just
Speaker 1: to try to match Johnny. Oh I swear yeah. I
Speaker 1: had my my Levi jacket with a bandana ty. It
Speaker 1: looked amazing, but it was prickly to cover up a
Speaker 1: pinpole that was the size of like an orange. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's going to be really relatable to anyone
Speaker 1: who release the footage of all right, well, Johnny, the
Speaker 1: time has come where we gotta kick you off and
Speaker 1: keep talking so much fun. I know this was great,
Speaker 1: Yes see, it wasn't yet bad. I feel like, come on,
Speaker 1: and you're all kind of nervous or hesitant, and we're
Speaker 1: also sarcastic though, because so you could have like just
Speaker 1: not meant that, you know, No, I meant it. She's like,
Speaker 1: she's like, I hate this kid. No, No, I actually no,
Speaker 1: I like you. I like you. You have a good
Speaker 1: head on your shoulders. Kid. You're Dc'm alright, I'm all right.
Speaker 1: Um well, Johnny, we will see you very soon at
Speaker 1: either the mentel all or the finale, and we can't
Speaker 1: wait to see that backflip. But in the meantime, hang
Speaker 1: in there, have fun watching all of this crazy journey unfold.
Speaker 1: It was so nice meeting too, and I appreciate you
Speaker 1: for having me of course, of course, thanks Johnny, take care.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, that was fun having another one of
Speaker 1: this season's fellas on with us, and I feel like
Speaker 1: he got a little bit more comfortable with us as
Speaker 1: time went on, to like let us guard down, which
Speaker 1: was fun to see Oh he did. Oh he did
Speaker 1: with them, but he came, he came ready with the
Speaker 1: jokes right off the bat. It was just more like
Speaker 1: the vulnerable you know, got he's got to warm up
Speaker 1: with us for that, but he'll come roasting us right away.
Speaker 1: I mean, from what we've seen with him and Gabby already,
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like that was to be expected.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you gotta have that if you're gonna if
Speaker 1: you're gonna date Gabby. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Um So, a
Speaker 1: huge shout out to Johnny, thank you for joining us today,
Speaker 1: and and even bigger thank you to all of our
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