1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: What's up, happy, our listeners, We're back and I'm Becca 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Kuprin and I'm Michelle Young, and we're so excited for 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: this week to talk all about the episode of the Batcherettes, 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: of course, and the ongoing journeys of our girls, Gabby 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: and Rachel. And it's week five of the Batchearette, which 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: it's going fast. It always does, but I feel like 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: it's going extra fast. But I'm so happy to be 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: back with you, Becca, because this week we are talking 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: to Johnny, who is the man who proved you can 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: be vulnerable and still fun during his one on one 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: date with Gabby. Yes, Michelle, I'm so excited to have 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: Johnny on because you just said it best. He proved 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: he could be vulnerable and open up and talk about 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: some deeper, heavier things but also still have fun, and 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: I expected nothing less. I feel like that date started 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: off on such a fun fresh foot for both of them, 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: so I can't wait to pick his brain. And we 18 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: did see some I don't ever want to say drama 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: go down on this week's episode, but like we didn't 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: see this little switchery with Logan, and because Johnny was 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: actually there living with the guys, and when this firsthand, 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to pick his brain on all of that. 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: But before we bring him on, Michelle, you are glowing today. 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: You have this like fresh summer face. I feel like, 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: So I want to know, because I'm coming to Minnesota 26 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: this week, what's good back in the homeland. Okay, I 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: will say that I think I've heard this from multiple people, 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: but this is probably the best Minnesota summer that I've 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: had since in my twenty nine years old living. It's 30 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: just been the weather. But every single day it's like 31 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: blue skies, sunny. We don't have that gloomy weather. It rains, 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: but it rains at night when you're sleeping, so you 33 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: like have that sound noise to fall asleep in. And 34 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: it's just I've been able to get out on the 35 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: lakes so much because the weather has been consistent and 36 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, working out. Hey, yeah, at the pool, it's 37 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: been it's been really nice and needed. Yes, exactly. Well, 38 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait. I'm hoping, you know, I'm doing like 39 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: a little quick family trip with my mom and sister 40 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: before my sister has her second baby, so it's like 41 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: a little girl's weekend. But maybe if I can sneak 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: away you and I can grab a drink or something. 43 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: Which love that I don't know, Okay, I don't know 44 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: if you're like as big of a foodie as I am. 45 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: But like every time I know I'm coming back to Minnesota, 46 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: I stack up on reservations where it's like, Okay, I 47 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: have to go for sure to Barlagrassa because it has 48 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: the best pasta. I have to go to Lynden Hills 49 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: to like my favorite bookstore, to get smash and shows 50 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: ice cream. Like I want to know and if anyone 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: either lives in Minnesota or if you're if you happen 52 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: to visit there, Michelle, what are your favorite go to spots? 53 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: Oh see, I feel like I don't even want to 54 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: share that because then I don't want people to go there, 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: Like I want it to be a favorite, Okay, the 56 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: best place? You know, yeah, one or two? I am. 57 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm very much a huge foodie like you Becca. Like 58 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: if i know that I'm going to be going to 59 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: an area, I look at the menu days before to 60 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: kind of look at everything. But I feel like I'm 61 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, in Minnesota, I go to Cove and Wizetta 62 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: on the Lake like that is my spot during the summer, 63 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: just because I love the like the patio and that area, 64 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: and then any chance I get to eat on the lake. Wait, 65 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: have you had Cove's big ass ice cream cake? I 66 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: probably had nearly everything on the Cove menu. That's okay. 67 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: So you're coming back to Minneapolis, Minnesota, you're spending some 68 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: time here, but you have a lot going on where 69 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: you're at catch us up to speak to say the least. Um, 70 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: I don't even know where to begin. So, I mean, 71 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: we've talked about this before Thomas night. Are you know 72 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: fresh in this new house? Um total demolition mess. He 73 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: the entire house is complete, letely gutted. There's not one 74 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: room where we're not doing work. It's been a struggle, 75 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: and I mean, I don't know about anyone out there. 76 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: Like I'm very organized, very type A Like I need 77 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: to have a proper place and space and everything for everything, 78 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: and I don't have that currently, So I am losing 79 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: my gosh, dang mind. I Like I joke with Thomas. 80 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: I love him so much, but I'm like, I might 81 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: divorce you before we're even married because this has been 82 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: such a crazy time. But but it's actually really cool. Too, 83 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: because Thomas is so in his element. He is so 84 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: great about building and fixing and working on projects and 85 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: like having this vision of this house come together. So 86 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: it's been really cool to see the baby steps and 87 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: like see him, I mean honestly, to see him get 88 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: like down and dirty and sweaty. It's a sexy pin 89 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but Wan who can build. It's so nice 90 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: and I like, I honestly like should not complain because 91 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: he has been so incredible and it's gonna be lovely 92 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: once it's finally done and we make this space our own. 93 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: But it's a process of getting there. So that's why 94 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm happy I have outlets like this where we can 95 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: have our girl chat and do the podcast and get 96 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: away from all that craziness. So that's done. Five episode 97 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: of Extra Chips. We'll take some extra chips for you. 98 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: I might not even leave min I might come back 99 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: this week and just stay there for the next couple 100 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: months until this is done. Like I canceled. It's really weird. Sorry, Thomas, 101 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: you can watch the dogs for the next three months 102 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: right while you're really in a house. Cool, thanks brother, buddy. No, 103 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: but it's yeah, it's been interesting and speaking of interesting. 104 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: I want to pick your brain on this week's episode, because, 105 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: as you said, it's week five, we're halfway through. I 106 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: don't know about you. Were you shocked when I think 107 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: it was Rachel at the beginning of the episode said like, 108 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: hometowns are in two weeks. Yeah, that caught me off guard. 109 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: I actually rewinded a little bit to make sure that 110 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: I heard everything correctly. Yeah, two weeks. I feel like 111 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: we just got started to same two weeks we're already 112 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: in hometown So I'm my damn, this season is flying by. Yeah. Yeah, 113 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: that caught me off guard. And that was like a 114 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: reality check of you know, just kind of really looking 115 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: to see, like which conversations still need to be had, 116 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: and wow, I just it's fine, they're just getting started. 117 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: Um okay. I think the main like one of the 118 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: main themes of this week or like you know, things 119 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: that took place is with Logan, and we kind of 120 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: saw the start of it last week as he's he 121 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: was in Rachel's group dating Rachel, but still like thinking 122 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: about Gabby. I mean, this week we saw the full 123 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: switcher rou and we don't necessarily need to get into 124 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 1: all of those details, but I actually want to ask 125 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: you this, Michelle, because I'm you know, as I'm watching, 126 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm putting myself back in the mindset of the back 127 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: and like, if I was in this position, how would 128 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: I react? How would I handle things? Would I do 129 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: things the same or different? So, if Logan came to you, 130 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: say you were along with Rachel and you were both Batchlrettes. 131 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: If Logan came to you and was like, I am 132 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: leaving Rachel's group and I want to still pursue things 133 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: with you because I can't get you out of my mind, 134 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: what would you have done? I honestly would have handled 135 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: it exactly how Gabby did that in that situation is 136 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: just her navigating everything with Rachel to make sure that 137 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: they have that open line of communication, especially in such 138 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: a unique situation where there's going to be like a 139 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: lot of sticky, sticky situations when you have two different 140 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: bachelorettes in this episode. And I'm kind of actually surprised 141 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: that it didn't happen before this point, and I'm also 142 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: surprised that, yeah, that we just didn't see more of it. 143 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: And so the fact that Gabby paused to go speak 144 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: to Rachel to get her thoughts on it and really 145 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: work through it, because this isn't something that anybody has 146 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: been through before, and so it's like there's not a 147 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 1: real book on how to navigate it. But I guess 148 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: my question is would you have kept Logan around? But 149 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: I mean it does depend on the connection, Like that's 150 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: the hard part is like it truly does. If you 151 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: have a deep connection with that person you at week five, 152 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: you actually feel that that person like you were sad 153 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: that you weren't continuing to date them, then maybe I 154 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: would possibly consider it. But I don't know. Okay for me, Okay, 155 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: so here's where I sug Here's where I struggle with it. 156 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: My connection with that person would have already had to 157 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: be at a very deep point to keep that person around. 158 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: But that being said, if I felt that deeply and 159 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: then they didn't, then I don't know. Back, I don't 160 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: know what are your thoughts, like, how would how would 161 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: you navigate this? I mean, I agree with you. I 162 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: think the fact that Gabby went to Rachel and was 163 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: able to have this conversation a shows the level of 164 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: respect that they have for each other, but also just 165 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: their friendship, right, Like It's another key moment throughout the 166 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: season that we've seen time and again of like they 167 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: have each other's backs and they truly care about each other. 168 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: But I personally don't think I would have kept Logan around, 169 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why, for a couple of reasons. One, 170 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: he's already missed two vital weeks and time is really 171 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: of the essence, and as we know, we always talk 172 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: about how important time is, and he's already missed two 173 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: out of the five weeks. So there's already two out 174 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: of five weeks that have been missing time with each other, 175 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: right and times of the essence. And also I had 176 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: something similar happened on my season where a guy got 177 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: injured on a date, had to go home, had to 178 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: have surgery. He was away for a couple of weeks, 179 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: and I was actually offered the opportunity to bring him back, 180 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: and it was I think the same type frame week 181 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: five or six, and I said no because I at 182 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: that point with the men I had been dating and 183 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: that I had formed connections with them that I was 184 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: invested with, I was like, I can't do this to 185 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: these men who I care about, because I know that 186 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: it's going to backtrack a bit with them. And so 187 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: I think and again like if there's a connection there, 188 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: explore it. Like I'm just giving my opinion and what 189 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: I would do, which is not the same as what 190 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: somebody else would do, And that's okay. I think the 191 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: way everything was handled was very mature, very respectful, truly 192 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: the best way anything could have transpired in this scenario. 193 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: I just wouldn't have done the same thing probably. I 194 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: just it's so hard when you're not there, you know, right, 195 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: you just gotta follow your gut. But would Yeah, but 196 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: how I mean, like for you personally if that were 197 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: to happen, Like I'm sure you, because you're an empathetic person, 198 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: you would feel for the men that you were already 199 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: so involved with. Yeah, yeah, definitely, I definitely would. I 200 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: think I have a hard time jumping into that because 201 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: like in my head, I'm thinking, okay, so if like 202 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: Logan were to come back, and I'm like, I just 203 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: that's you know, that's I can't put myself in the 204 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: pisos because I'm like, I don't I'm not dating Logan, 205 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: so who knows, well, okay, who knows. But I do 206 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: get what you say. I do get what you're saying. 207 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: It's just it really depends though, because it's all factors 208 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: of what's going on, because all factors of like what 209 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: you know, how the other guys are handling, how your 210 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: other relationships are progressing, how maybe they're not progressing. So 211 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: it really, it really truly depends on your relationships and 212 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: what you have with all the other people. Yeah, was 213 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: there any other key moments that really stuck out to 214 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: you that you want to highlight right now? I just 215 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: feel like Gabby is in a place where she really 216 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: is challenging herself to open up and in this path 217 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: like this past week, I felt like I got to 218 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: see that even more so because you are getting into um, 219 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, the really deep conversations and and and she 220 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: has been very vocal about that's really difficult for her. 221 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: But anytime she's speaking, it's just she's able to really 222 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: speak clearly about her emotions and identify her emotions. And 223 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: I think she's doing a wonderful job challenging the men 224 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: then to do that as well. And they, you know, 225 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: are able to sit down and open up and feel 226 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: like they have like um almost like the structure of 227 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: the conversation, if that makes sense, like structure be able 228 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: to open up more and get into deeper, heavier things. Exactly. Yeah, 229 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: I think the definitely thing that I enjoyed so much 230 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: this week. Um, okay, before we bring on Johnny, I 231 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: have one final question about not even this particular episode, 232 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: but mainly this episode, but everything leaving up. Is it 233 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: just so apparent to you who Rachel's already know who 234 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: her final two are going to be just from the interactions? 235 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: It is the wait, you tell me, what are you 236 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: so apparent? What are you looking at? I think just everything. 237 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: I think her conversations, the way she talks about two men, 238 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: in particular, the amount of screen time that two men 239 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: in her group of guys. It's just like, I'm going 240 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: into screen time and everything and I'm gonna but I'm 241 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: gonna and I'm gonna say this once again. I say 242 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: it week after week. I truly don't know who either 243 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: of these women end up with. I don't know. I 244 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: don't even know who is going to be final four 245 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: at Hometowns, but like, I'm pretty sure I know who 246 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: will be final two for Rachel. It is so apparent. 247 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: How do you feel about the final two? Oh? I mean, like, 248 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: what do you wanna do you want to identify or 249 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: do you wanna do you want to identify the final 250 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: two or now? Well, I will kind of. I mean, 251 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: if I'm just I'm just prefacing this with this is 252 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: just my This is just my opinion and from what 253 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: I've seen. But right now, out of Rachel's what six 254 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,599 Speaker 1: or seven men left, she is all in Untino and 255 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: Zach one thousand percent. I am calling it with just 256 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: my own thoughts and opinions and being a critical thinker. 257 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: Here it's those two and there's no competition. I wouldn't 258 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: necessarily don't agree say that I agree with you at 259 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: this point. Yes, I agree with you at this point. 260 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: Do I know that things can drastically change? Yes? Who knows? 261 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: Logan maybe trying to switch back and that times send 262 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: them home. Rachel actually raised Chris back and begins to 263 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: date him, is what you're saying, right, Okay? All right? 264 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: So I said that's something anything can happen, but anything 265 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: can truly happen on this show, I really can. All right, Well, Michelle, 266 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: I mean, like always, I could chat with you forever, 267 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: but we do have a guest ready and waiting, and 268 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: it's time to bring on Johnny. He and Gabby's connection 269 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: went to a whole other level this week during their 270 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: first one on one together and again Michelle, he was vulnerable, 271 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: he was fun. It was like the full combination of 272 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: everything we love to see when people are dating on 273 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: this show. So everybody please help us. Welcome Johnny to 274 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: Happy Hour. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. Johnny. We are 275 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: so excited that you are here with us. How are 276 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: you doing? Thank I'm good, I'm good. Thank you for 277 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: having me. This is amazing. Absolutely, Johnny. I need to 278 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: know where are you from? Because I'm getting like Jersey 279 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: vibes a little bit, But I no, you are. It's 280 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm from Jersey. But yeah, look at that you look 281 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: me up. I know you. No, he's where no offense. 282 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: I don't want any of you guys up until I 283 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: know like you're the one at the very very end. 284 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: Yeah no, um, yeah, I moved from Jersey and I 285 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: was around fifteen, So there's a little Jersey twining in there. 286 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: Okay now yeah, yeah for sure. But before we get 287 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: into everything, how did you come about on this show? 288 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: How did you actually get to be on the back Stort? 289 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: How did I guess be on the TV show of 290 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: the back stat Um? Yeah? Um, I actually, you know, 291 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: I want to call it a breakup, but I kind 292 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: of was in a relationship that didn't work out, and um, 293 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: when it ended, I was kind of bummed, and my 294 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: friends were kind of over me moping around. They're like, 295 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: we gotta get this kid somewhere. So my one buddy 296 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: decided to submit me and then um, yeah, the rest 297 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: is history. Were you surprised, like did they tell you 298 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: did find that was a complete surprise. Yeah. When they 299 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: reached out and I was like this is not real 300 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, do we know anything about this? 301 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: And they were like you're going on. I'm like, okay, 302 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: let's do this. I want to get into There's a 303 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: lot to impact with what you just said about, like 304 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: how you actually got on the show, like you ended 305 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: the relationship, which is, I know, something you and Gabby 306 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: had talked about. But starting out just fresh Night one 307 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: taken back to rite out of the Limos. Oh, yes, 308 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: I mean we all we all say everyone nervous. Yeah, yeah, 309 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: that's that's the one word everyone uses fresh and Limo 310 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: is blacked out. But when you came out right away, 311 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: were you pretty much fully focused on Gabby or were 312 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: you like both of these women are beautiful. They're both great. 313 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: Let's explore. Yeah, for the most part, Um, you know, 314 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: I didn't have any expectations or anything, and I thought 315 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: they were both beautiful. So I feel like I was 316 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: going to go off of who I vibed with more, 317 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: and you know, I kind of left that door open 318 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: for you know, up until the first group date. And then, um, 319 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: as you guys saw, I got the group date Rose, 320 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: and I think that's when I knew. I was like, 321 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: Gabby's all the way we did see the group date 322 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: rowse Um the Speedo pageant right, Oh my god, Yeah 323 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: I did that. I forgot. I'm so proud. I worked 324 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: my ass off for that. I'm good. I resolutely I 325 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: wish Right now, He's like, I actually have that group 326 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: date Rose right behind me. I speed You kept it. 327 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: It's hanging on his bulletin board behind him every course. 328 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: I kept it. Yeah, I got it. Okay, but will 329 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: you wear it whether you were on vacation to a beach. 330 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: That's done. I hung that up. Yeah, He's like, you 331 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: might see more of it one day, who knows that? 332 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: So Okay, you won the first group date Rose. It 333 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: was exciting, but then you had a few weeks. It 334 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: wasn't until Belgium that you got the first one on one. 335 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: So in between that time, when you were on group 336 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 1: date after group date, at any point were you feeling 337 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: kind of down of like when is it going to 338 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: be my turn? I need that time, or like that 339 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: that weird limbo phase before you got that one on one, 340 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: like where was your mind at? Yeah, no, for sure, 341 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: I think you know, I explained it as kind of 342 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: like an emotional roller coaster, because you know there's potential 343 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: and you know that this could you know, be your person, 344 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: but you're just getting these small foundations. So you know, 345 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: it was just it was small foundations that we kept 346 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: building and building, and I was super upset, you know, 347 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: every time I didn't get the one on one. But 348 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: I just knew when I did get that one on one, 349 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: we had build such a solid small foundation that it 350 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: would be that much more amazing. And that's how I 351 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: kind of looked at it through the whole process, because 352 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: even I think this week, Gabby talks about how like 353 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: your confidence, you know, you're the cool guy, you have confidence. 354 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: Was there ever a moment though, where you started to 355 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: doubt that and just feel uneasy before that one on 356 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: one for sure. I feel like, I mean I kind 357 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: of come into this whole thing not feeling so confident, 358 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: and you know it's hard when there's thirty three, you know, 359 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: amazing people there. So you know, I think you feel 360 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: that the whole time. At least I did. And yeah, 361 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: I lost checking the question. I apologize. So just to 362 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: add on kind of to what Michelle was asking, I mean, 363 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: I I was in your position many moons ago where 364 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: I will remember, I mean I had a slightly different 365 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: position than you because I actually got the very first 366 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: one on one, but then there were I think it 367 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: was like a five week span where I didn't get 368 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: another one on one day and't have that like real 369 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: alone intimate time with somebody, and people in between come 370 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: back from these dates and they're like, oh, I established 371 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: such a start connection, Like I'm totally into this girl, 372 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: like there is something there. She could be my potential partner. 373 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: And for you, I mean, you didn't get that one 374 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: on one for five weeks. I'm sure you're seeing guys 375 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: come home week after week. No. If you you definitely 376 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: get in your feelings, you know, and then you're talking 377 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: to them and you kind of realize the amazing time 378 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: they had, and then you start to feel like you're 379 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, like you did build this crazy good foundation. 380 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: Then you're like, okay, well, now where's it going. You know, 381 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: you kind of ride this roller coaster up and now 382 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: you're like coming back down, so you're kind of just 383 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: waiting for that up again. So yeah, like I said, 384 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: it was an up and down roller coaster with me, 385 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: and I would go through there was days where I felt, 386 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: you know, awful, where I was like, Okay, maybe I'm 387 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: not the one and maybe I don't deserve to be here. 388 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: And then you know, I speak with her for ten 389 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: or fifteen minutes, I'm like, no, one hundred percent or 390 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: something there, let's keep going. Yeah, that's amazing though, even 391 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: just because it's such an unnatural situation, you two always 392 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: seem to almost just not miss a beat, and so 393 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: you finally receive your one on one. Oh yeah, what 394 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: do you say? Wait, what do you say? Miss a beat? 395 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm just pictures the part where you guys are on 396 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: your dates, smacking each other the leaves, like, definitely did 397 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: not miss any beats in that moment. Terrible. Yeah, well, 398 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: you have to be enjoying yourself in that moment. Yeah, 399 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: I like Loki loved it. But you know we're not 400 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: going to talk about that. Gabby. The little freak flag 401 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: was raised for sure. My wait, wait wait, wait wait 402 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: did you just did you just say freak flag? Yeah, 403 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: the freak flag was raised a little bit when Gabby 404 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: was like, hit my face, so ridiculous. We had fun. 405 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: We can't blushing, Johnny, I'm blushing right now. I'm so nervous. 406 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: Don't be nervous. No more talking about we'll bring it back, 407 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: We'll bring it back. But okay, so you finally get 408 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: your one on one. How excited were you when you 409 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: finally heard your name? Like you are finally going on 410 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: this one on one day with Gabby. Oh my gosh, 411 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: it means the world. You know. I feel like you 412 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: know that that's the goal of the whole time. We're 413 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: trying to get that one on one time and solidify 414 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: you know, our place, and um yeah, you want it 415 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: sooner than later. But you feel like you feel like 416 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: you're on top of the world. Where did your mind 417 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: go with it all? Like what did you have questions? Okay, 418 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: I want to talk to her about this, this and this, 419 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: Like did you have things that you for for the 420 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: most part, yeah, um, every time we you know, like 421 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: I said, every time we hung out, it was a 422 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: small foundation, so I was just looking to kind of 423 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: dive a little deeper than just the surface. Um. But 424 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: also I know, you know, both Gabby and Rachel kind 425 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: of you know, went through it last season, so I did, 426 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: you know, for the most part, want to show Gabby 427 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: a good time. So you know, for the first part, 428 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: I really just wanted to focus on having fun with her. 429 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I feel like you kind of build 430 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: that friendship first and then you know, those relationships are stronger, 431 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 1: you know when you do have a friendship, and you know, 432 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: so that's all I felt. It seems like you had 433 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: a level of comfortability. Oh my gosh, am I saying 434 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: that comfortability I can comfortability. Wow, I cannot talk ever. 435 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: But it seems like like you just said, you built 436 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: the solid foundation, and you guys did a couple interesting 437 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: things on that date. You not only went to beer tasting, 438 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: but you had this like spa like moment I think 439 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: in a beer tub what like during the day. Portion 440 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: was the craziest thing I've ever done in my entire life. 441 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: And you were drinking it we were not supposed to 442 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: be drinking it, but that was just me and Gabby 443 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: just doing our thing. Was What was your favorite part 444 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: overall of that one on one with Gabby? Oh my god, Um, 445 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. It was all amazing, But I think 446 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: it's like the little moments like when I first saw 447 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: her when I was walking to the farm. I think 448 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: that was special. Um. And then m the date the 449 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: night portion, you know, just kind of in like that 450 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: bruise Times Square area and running around with her. I thought, 451 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, it just felt like a movie. So those 452 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: like little moments like I'll remember, Yeah, so special for sure. 453 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: And there's like those Okay, so now that you've gone 454 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: through the show, you know that you can have fun 455 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: with Gabby during the day. The day portion is all 456 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: about laughing, doing whatever fun activity, uncomfortable, pushing outside your 457 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: comfort zone. And then you get into the night portion 458 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: and you do have those more serious conversations. And that 459 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: was something that we hadn't seen between you and Gabby 460 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: quite yet. Is that something like being that type of 461 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: vulnerable of getting below the surface. Is that something that's 462 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: incredibly important to you what I've learned from the show. Honestly, Yeah, 463 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: I think it's something that you know, I really look 464 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: look for in a relationship and I'm not super vulnerable, 465 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: so it was hard for me. It was super hard 466 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: to get like that, But you know, it's something I'm 467 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: definitely working on still. And I think there's a whole 468 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: process of falling in love, and I think, you know, 469 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: there's certain steps you need to take, like building that connection, 470 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: that friendship, and then getting vulnerable with someone and just 471 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: letting them see all of you. So I think you 472 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: know I was, I was trying to go through the 473 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: process when I was doing that. Yeah, And I want 474 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: to actually commend you for getting to that point to 475 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: be able to open up about your past struggles with 476 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: anxiety and depression, because I think it's a lot more 477 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: common than people ever realize. And I love now that 478 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: the fact is kind of highlighting those conversations a bit 479 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: more where people don't necessarily feel like they're alone. And 480 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: the point to that is, like you and Gabby were 481 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: both able to share very similar stories about it. How 482 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: did that moment feel when you were sitting there talking 483 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: to her and opening up about these struggles. How did 484 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: it feel to finally be able to let your guard 485 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: down and I'm sure trust her a little bit more 486 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: with that information. It was amazing. It was like I 487 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: said it was, it was trusting the process and it 488 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: kind of just made me realize, like this could you know, 489 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: this could be real and there's potential and it's something 490 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: I have never done with anyone, So you know, it 491 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: kind of just put her in the light even more 492 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: for me. And then the fact that she kind of 493 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: reciprocated it and you know, kind of threw it back 494 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: at me, I was like, Okay, there's people who are 495 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: out here who feel the same, and you know, it's 496 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: like you should never be too scared to you know, 497 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: kind of work those things out. So it felt really 498 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: good and I mean, she's made me a whole different person. 499 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: I do completely disagree with back up, because not only 500 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: are you being vulnerable, but you're being vulnerable in a 501 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: situation where you know there's going to be other people 502 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: watching it. Yeah, it's a lot, and it's really hard, 503 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: and you don't know how Gabby is going to receive it, 504 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: and you don't know necessarily how it's going to come off, 505 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: and that is a lot, but there are so many 506 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: benefits of opening up and for me, when you said it, 507 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, working you don't need to be scared. It's 508 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: almost you can be scared. Just don't let that stop 509 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: you from opening up. But you let it stop you though, right, No, No, 510 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: because you know, I thought, if if I'm really here 511 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: and I'm really trying to figure this out with this person, 512 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: like you gotta go for it. You can't just hold back. 513 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: And you know, and I saw that, you know, she 514 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: was cool with me and she would have my back, 515 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: so that was cool with it. But scared shitless, no doubt. Yeah, 516 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: Well I get it. I get it too, and even now, 517 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: like it's one thing to be having those conversations in 518 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: front of the person that you're dating months ago when 519 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: you're filming, and it's going to probably be a whole 520 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: different ballgame for you now that it's airing and the 521 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: world is watching you back. And I really hope that 522 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: and I am pretty confident to say that, I'm sure 523 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of support behind you and 524 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people reaching out who have been through 525 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: something similar and they thank you for being open because 526 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: now they maybe feel like they can. And so I 527 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: want to know if you're comfortable talking about it. We 528 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: Michelle and I and I'm sure our listeners would love 529 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: to know kind of how you've dealt with these struggles 530 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: throughout your life or what tools that you have learned 531 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: within maybe recent months of how to help you cope 532 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. Well, first off, I think my mom 533 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: is a huge person in my life. So anytime I'm 534 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: feeling like this, I definitely bounce things off my mom. 535 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: So she's been a huge tool with just kind of 536 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, when I feel down or you know, even depressed, 537 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: just kind of speaking with someone and then don't be 538 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: afraid to seek help. You know. I've seen therapists and 539 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: it's a huge help. And I think, you know, it's 540 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: a tool that I'm trying to use more and more 541 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: as you know, I get older, and I just don't 542 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 1: care what people think. And I think that's like the 543 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: biggest part. Yeah, I mean, get the help you need 544 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: and just you'll feel a hundred times better because there's 545 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: certain things and there's there's there's reasons why you feel 546 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: like this, and I feel like they're underlining and sometimes 547 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: you don't always know, and there's people out there that 548 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: can help you. So for the longest time, I kept 549 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: it bottled up, and I think it's ruined relationships and 550 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: and yeah, I just feel so much better now that 551 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: I can kind of just take care of it and 552 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: just not care what people think. Yeah, I love everything 553 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: that you just said, I think. I mean, kudos to 554 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: you for speaking out about it. I mean, I personally 555 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: have found therapy life changing. It's so incredible. And there's 556 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: I think the pastor's been such a stigma around it, 557 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: you know, where it kind of receives a negative connotation, 558 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: which is so so so not the case. And if 559 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: it can help you live better mentally, physically, whatever, emotionally, anything, 560 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: go for it. And so thank you for sharing. You'll 561 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: be a hundred times better if you just seek the 562 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: help A thousand thousand percent I said, struggling or not. Though, 563 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: struggling or not, you don't have that struggle with therapists, 564 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: a life coach, anything, right. My therapist is like my 565 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: best friend I ever on speed dial. Yeah, everyone likes great. 566 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, what's up? Stuff? Can me tell you? For you? 567 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: Watching everything back and watching yourself, um go through just 568 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: these entire first five weeks. Um, it's weird for sure? 569 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: Is that a correct word? Weird? Um, it's weird for sure, 570 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: but um, it's like a growing process too. I feel 571 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: like watching it and kind of just replaying everything and 572 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: you know, the whole, the whole, you know, experience is 573 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: a process, and it's definitely a growing process for sure. 574 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: So um, I enjoy it. It's definitely weird to watch, 575 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: but at the same time, I feel like I'm learning 576 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: so much from it. Yeah, I love Michelle. I love 577 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: that question, and I want to follow up to that, 578 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: because every everyone who's a contestant, I think can attest 579 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: to this at some point. It's like when you're filming 580 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: and you're living it in the moment, it's one thing, right, 581 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: like that's your experience, it's in real time, but now 582 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: months later when you watch it back, it's vastly different. 583 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: When you're living it right, when you're in the moment, 584 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, you have your one perception in your reality 585 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: of everything that you're going through, and then months later 586 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: when it airs back, there's so much more that you're 587 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: probably seen at this point that you're hearing that you 588 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: maybe didn't know what was happening in the moment. What 589 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: is that like, Like, is there a lot more that 590 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: you're learning about Gabby or the men that you didn't 591 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: necessarily see in real time months ago. Yeah, for sure. 592 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: I think there's you know, there's a lot of interviews 593 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: we didn't get to see that Gabby went through, and 594 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of emotions that we didn't get to 595 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: see Gabby go through. So it's super upsetting at times, 596 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, even just the guys in the house, you know, 597 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: I feel like you see a lot more that you 598 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: don't see, And there's a lot that goes on behind 599 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: closed doors that you know. As much as we already gather, 600 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot of the times we aren't together. So yeah, 601 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: you learn a lot about everyone, even yourself. Yeah, it 602 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: is just it is such an odd situation. It's a 603 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: steep win and curb that honesty. Even Patrol Nation audience 604 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: won't understand to a certain degree of experiencing it, like 605 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: Becca said, and then also experiencing watching it back, having 606 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: everybody watch it back, and then having social media involved. 607 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: But I do have to ask such and geage just 608 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: a little bit. Okay, when you found out that Logan 609 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: was leaving Rachel's team or made a decision to pursue Gabby, 610 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: that is something that you guys were aware of and 611 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: that you did experience to a certain extent. What were 612 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that? Um, I'm gonna be you know, 613 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: one hundred percent honest. Logan definitely leads with his heart 614 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: and what he did, what he felt. But at the 615 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: same time, on our side, we knew that we have 616 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: gone through so much with Gabby already, so we were 617 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: very much like, well, you know, he did what he 618 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: thought was best for him and and that's amazing, But 619 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: we were also like, well, now we're going to lose 620 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: someone who you know, who's been with Gabby through the 621 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: whole process. So it was very up and down, very 622 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: up and down. But you know, yeah, it was a 623 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: reird situation for sure. Is that? But okay, so it's 624 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: it's the first season with two Batch slorettes, you guys talk. 625 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: Is that something that was spoken about at the house. 626 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: That is for sure a possibility that that could happen, 627 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: for sure, very realistic. It's realistic. It's a possibility. I 628 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: think when they announced two Batch serettes, the first thing 629 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: that goes to your head was like, okay, well, what 630 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: if you're into both, or what if both like you, 631 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: or what if you make a connection with both of them, 632 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think it's a test to 633 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: Logan's character. I think if anything, it shows, you know, 634 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: maybe he was a likable person and both these girls 635 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: did have feelings for him. You know, I'm playing Devil's advocate, 636 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: but well, and that was something that was said is 637 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: both women. I think Gabby was like he was the 638 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: only guy that there was that overlap that we were 639 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: both into him. I feel like the other men it 640 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: was more clear cut, and with him, they were both like, 641 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: he's a cool dude. We're kind of vibing with him 642 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: for sure. And you and you know, it's not just 643 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: us too. We thought, you know, what if they were 644 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: into both of us and or you know, both of 645 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: them into one of us, and we knew that it 646 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: would happen with someone eventually it had to, So you know, 647 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing. I just think, 648 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: you know, maybe Logan is a likable person and these 649 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: two girls. You know, I thought he was a cool 650 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: dude for sure. So Okay, the way that the Rose 651 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: ceremonies are structured, it's because there are two leads. It's 652 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: slightly different from what we've seen. So once you guys 653 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: received the rows, you go down into a separate room, 654 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: so you don't know necessarily who's going to be walking 655 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: down the stairs, who's going to be going to the 656 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: other groups men, you know, who got the rows with 657 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: the other woman. So when it was Logan who got 658 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: the last rose from Gabby and he walked down and 659 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: we saw Mario and Michael go home, what did that 660 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: feel like? Because I'm sure even if it sounds like, 661 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: Logan got along with most of you, and he's a 662 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: pretty cool dude, but at the same time, I feel 663 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: like there's still this level of respector this like precedent 664 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: set of like, you know, Mario and Michael were here 665 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: since the beginning with her, and they were all in 666 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,720 Speaker 1: with her, and we've spent five weeks together with Gabby. 667 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: So when you saw Logan as the last person to 668 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: walk down the stairs, what was the collective in that room? 669 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's exactly how you put it. It was 670 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: mixed emotions for sure, because Logan did get along with everyone, 671 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: and he was very much a shoulder for people to 672 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: lean on, you know, and Logan and me are the 673 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: same age. He's twenty five, twenty six, and I considered 674 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: him an older brother because anything I need to talk 675 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: about he was there, so he got along with one. 676 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, Michael and Mario 677 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: have been there and you know they were like like 678 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: brothers too, So it was very strange and um, it 679 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: was mixed. It was mixed emotions, truly, like the best 680 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: way to put it. You know, no one was too happy, 681 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: no one was too upset, but it was just very 682 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: like dull. You know, there was like an airy didn't 683 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 1: I don't ever look at like the legit not. I mean, 684 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: I guess the logistic is maybe the correct word. But 685 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: this is a really fast process as it is, and 686 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: so like when you're having to choose teams, you're losing 687 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: out on like getting to know somebody, and you know, 688 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: if you do want an engagement at the end or 689 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: whatever you're looking for, you want it to be successful. 690 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: Did anyone on Gabby's side really feel that Logan would 691 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: just not have enough time to get to know Gabby 692 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: and vice versa because of this late switch. Yeah, yeah, 693 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: it did feel like that too. It also felt like, 694 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: you know, it was really late in the process and 695 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: it would be hard to you know, kind of go 696 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: through with the whole thing. Knowing you only had this 697 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: amount of time left. Um. But also I think more 698 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: so for Logan, it was just like, what if I 699 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 1: didn't do it? And I know a lot of people 700 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: felt like that. A lot of people did choose one 701 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: person and they were, you know, saying, how like, well, 702 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: what if it was her? We never got to experience it. 703 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: Oh wait, who was saying that besides Logan spilled Ah, 704 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: that is the piece of information that everyone wants now. 705 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: So as you were, just as you were just speaking this, 706 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: that crossed my mind that at this point, I mean, collectively, 707 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: there's still a decent amount of you guys left. And 708 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: usually in past seasons there's a lot of drama between 709 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: the men or at least a couple of the men, 710 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: and really the season, we haven't seen any of that 711 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 1: besides early on with Chris, who obviously left very early. 712 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: It's mainly were So the drama that we're witnessing is 713 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: the women trying to feel like, you know, are the 714 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: men here for me? And are they going to chump ship? 715 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: It's this is like unlike anything we have ever seen before. 716 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't want to say, you're living in 717 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: a moment right now, Johnny, but you are. And I 718 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: guess that leads to my question for you, because you 719 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: were living with all these guys, like, was there any 720 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: drama between you as individuals that we aren't seeing or 721 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 1: was it mainly just like the situation with two leads. Personally, 722 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 1: I think it was more so the situation with two leads. 723 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: I think as a whole of the group really did 724 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: get along with each other. And it was weird too, 725 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: because we would sit around like, you know, there's really 726 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 1: not a whole lot of drama or beef with anyone, 727 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: and you know, we didn't. You know, we knew that 728 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: past season there was crazy drama. So I think it 729 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: was more so with the leads and kind of just 730 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: deciding and things like that. But personally me, no, I 731 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: didn't really have, you know, drama or anything with anyone. 732 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: A lot of us in the house where you shoulders 733 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,439 Speaker 1: to lean on. It was just a really good group 734 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: of guys. Well, I was gonna say, you guys kind 735 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: of looked out with I know, it's it's weird and 736 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: no one really knew how to handle it because this 737 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: is the first time, But you guys really did, I think, 738 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean, not only with your traveling and living on 739 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: a cruise ship. But you did luck out with how 740 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: it's all coming together as a whole. For sure. For sure, 741 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: it's been an amazing experience. Okay, so you said you've 742 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: said this about yourself and then as well as logan, 743 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: just being a shoulder to lean on through this experience 744 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: is because you're not talking to friends, you're not talking 745 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: to family, You're truly like going through this very very unique, 746 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: unique situation. How did you how did you not comfort? 747 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: I guess maybe comfort? How did you like help men 748 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: who are leaning on your shoulder but they're also dating 749 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: the person that you're dating, So how did you handle that? 750 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: Honestly that I got advice from Gabby on that when 751 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: we talked, and I'm not sure if they even showed it, 752 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: but she just told me that you have to compartmentalize, 753 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, And that was from her, so I kind 754 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: of took and that was from the beginning. So I 755 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: took that with me through the whole process. And you know, 756 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: I've been you know, through relationships and just through things 757 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: in life to where I thought I had enough knowledge 758 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: and wisdom to where when people did want to come 759 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: and lean on me, I was there for them, and 760 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, we did just compartmentalize, and you know, my 761 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: relationship with Gabby was separate from everyone else, so I 762 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: kind of looked at it like that, and and it's 763 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: such a weird experience because you know, you're dating this 764 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: girl with thirty three other people. When can you do that? 765 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: Never'll never get it out of me. It's close book 766 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: over here. I'm not like that. I'm not like that, 767 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: But you just have to compartmentalize. And I think you 768 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: know I would. I would reach that too to everyone there. 769 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: Just my relationships separate than yours. You know, you may 770 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: have a different experience with Gabby than I may, so 771 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: let's just treat it like different relationships and we're all 772 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: here for each other and whatever they need. You know, 773 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: I was there. It was a very very good group 774 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: of people. So you know, who are you out of 775 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: all of the men, who are you still super close with? Um? 776 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: You know, me and Logan talk a lot. Um. Eric 777 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: is like my brother Eric. He's like a Viking um 778 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: And Quincy. Quincy was literally like from day one. I 779 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: think I walked in and we just hugged each other 780 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: just out of nowhere. And Quincy was like he said 781 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: something He's like, if it doesn't work out with me 782 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: and Gabby, I want you to meet my family. And 783 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: I was saying, I got you. Oh I love that. 784 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: He seems like he had just good energy lifted them funny. 785 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, those three I'm pretty close with 786 00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 1: for sure. Okay, what about Hayden Um, I'm not really 787 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: supposed to hate him a whole lot, but no facial expression, 788 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: hold on something. Okay. I do have a question, and 789 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: this is not related to really the show, but when 790 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: you were on your one on one date with Gabby 791 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: and also at the top of this episode, you had 792 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: mentioned prior to coming on to the Bachelorette you had 793 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: just gotten out somewhat recently of a relationship. So I 794 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,760 Speaker 1: need to ask the hard hitting questions. Number one, how 795 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,399 Speaker 1: soon was it out of that relationship that you came 796 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 1: on the show? And because we've seen this in the past. Two, 797 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 1: is there any I want to say, like maybe worry 798 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 1: or hesitancy in the back of your mind where it's 799 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: like your X would come and be like he you know, 800 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: we've seen shavy shit in the past where he didn't 801 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 1: necessarily break up with me, or you know, I thought 802 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,439 Speaker 1: we were still talking or still together before you left, 803 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: anything like that that could potentially come out. Um, no, 804 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: not at all. I think you know, the relationship that 805 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: I kind of was bummed about, if you want to 806 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: call it that, I can't give her too much credit. Um, 807 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: it was like a year before I went on the show. 808 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: Oh so it was a while, so okay, yeah, yeah, 809 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: so it was kind of like, you know, and then 810 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: you go through the process of trying to get on 811 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: the show, and then by the time like we started filming, 812 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: it's been maybe a year if that. Okay. I thought 813 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: when you said when you mentioned it on the show, 814 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, did he just get out 815 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: of relationship last week because he ain't ready to get engaged? Well, 816 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 1: did come off like it was super soon. But now 817 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: that I'm even just like watching your body language and 818 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: how you're experiencing it, it's just more of like you 819 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: really really cared, you were hurt by it. With me, 820 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: I didn't. I never dated a lot. You know, I've 821 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: been like, you know, a month or two month relationships, 822 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: and you know, I had one serious girlfriend when I 823 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: was in high school, and then you know, after that 824 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: was pretty much single and just and then I finally 825 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: found someone who I was like, okay, I could see 826 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 1: myself with this person, and it just went south and 827 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: I was just like I'm not doing this, like I'm done, 828 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: like it's not for me. Relationships don't work out, and 829 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: then you know, I was like, let's give it another shot. 830 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: But so how daunting was that going from shortish relationships 831 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: to then potentially being like I could get engaged by 832 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: the end of this. Well, I think with me, you know, 833 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: it was more so I have gone through the emotions 834 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: of what I want and you know, just relationships and 835 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: just being on dates and just you know, the person 836 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: I want to be with. So I always said, you know, 837 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: the next person I do end up you know, calling 838 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: my girlfriend or whatever, like I'm going to marry that person, 839 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: because I didn't want to waste any time. And I 840 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: was just like, I know what I want now, Like 841 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: if if I don't see something serious or like a 842 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: real commitment, like I'm not gonna commit to you. So 843 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,800 Speaker 1: I always said, you know, if I found that person 844 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: and the person, the next person I do commit to, 845 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: like I'm committing to her forever, Yes, and we land 846 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: on that one. I love a mature man Okay, you 847 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: just knocked it out of the John I love it 848 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: swing too that you just stand. I'm like, hey, look 849 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:21,359 Speaker 1: at that energy. Look at that energy. You I feel 850 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 1: like you relieved. This is like I'm just not can'ting 851 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 1: just like I'm done. He's like, oh my god, it's 852 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,720 Speaker 1: almost done. I feel so happy. Off my shoulders. Okay, 853 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 1: heavy hitting questions are over. This one might be tough 854 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 1: because you got to kind of keep it short. But 855 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: we ask every guest on here too, without giving too 856 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: much away, to give us a teaser of what to 857 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: expect from the rest of Gabby and Rachel's season. I'm 858 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: gonna get in trouble. I've been getting in trouble. What 859 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: can I say? Give it to us. Is the place 860 00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: to do it the rest of the season. H um 861 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: wild West. I think it gets crazier. Oh, I think. 862 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: I think there's no idea how I feel about that. 863 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm just picturing you guys like roaming through Montana on horseback, 864 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 1: blowing in the wind, right back on the cruise ship. 865 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 1: Let's go turn it around. Well, Johnny, it has been 866 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: awesome talking with you. We do love our games here 867 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: on Bachelor Happy Hours. We're gonna do a little getting 868 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: to know you game, and it's called rapid fire. I 869 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: want to throw a question at you and you have 870 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: to answer, like on the spot. So it's gonna be 871 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: super quick. Ready, I'm really good at this, so let's 872 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: oh wow, okay, you set it, set the bar, then 873 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: let up. Are you an early riser or a night owl? Both? Okay? 874 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: Best dating advice you ever received? Oh what if it 875 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: can turn out better than you imagine? How do you 876 00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: like the pizza? That is good? Dominum? How do you 877 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: let you be Chris? Chrispy? For sure? Chris? Okay, what 878 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: is your signature dance move? You have to show it 879 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 1: and tell us? Ye show it. I'm gonna brace something. 880 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,919 Speaker 1: It's okay? Um like go backflip? Do you have room 881 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 1: to do? It? Is it is? It's got your take out, 882 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: your yourr headphones. That's your dance move. Okay, okay, don't 883 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: hear them, don't don't show us here. But when we 884 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: see you at either Mental or the finale, we will 885 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: be expecting a full black backflip. You'll you'll see a 886 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: backflip that. What's your favorite curse word? Mmm? What's that one? TikTok? 887 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know. Fuck. What is your guilty pleasure? 888 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 1: Flaming out Cheetos? M M. What is your go to 889 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 1: karaoke song? So I've done karaoke once and it was 890 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: fifty cent pimp, So I'm gonna go with that. He 891 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 1: actually is good at this game. I like he is 892 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 1: the rapid fire, which I appreciate. What is the current 893 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: screensaver on your phone? My dog passed away? If you 894 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: could visit anywhere in the world, where would you go? Italy? 895 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 1: My family from Italian I've never been. Okay, last one, 896 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 1: What is one word I've kind of kind of asked 897 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: you already this What is one word to describe the 898 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,760 Speaker 1: rest of the season besides wild West? Because that's stuffically 899 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 1: too um hm, and no, come on, I need a 900 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 1: good word here. He was gonna say inspirational, Say inspirational, 901 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: let's do it. Inspiration. You were going to say inspirational art. 902 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,799 Speaker 1: I think I was gonna say insanity, but inspiration. I 903 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: was like, I like inspirational better. And then Rebecca said 904 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,879 Speaker 1: falk and I was like, I was like, I thought, 905 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 1: you not wild West an operational same thing we are. 906 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: So I feel like we're on a whole new level. 907 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 1: He just called me Rebecca, which only my mother does 908 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:14,360 Speaker 1: Rebecca Rebecca Okay, Jonathan or is it just Johnny? It's John? Yeah, 909 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 1: I'm the I'm the third, so I go by Johnny. 910 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 1: There's too many of us. It's like a huge, huge 911 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 1: Italian family and everyone thinks it's cool to name their 912 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 1: kids John. Yeah. I was gonna say this kind of 913 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,800 Speaker 1: like the Pope, like John Paul the third or something. 914 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I guess I have to name 915 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 1: my kid John. Yeah, you have a trend going on. 916 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,839 Speaker 1: Um all right, John the Third before we let you go. 917 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 1: It's that you just don't have a filter, and I 918 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 1: love it. Take no shit. It is that time to 919 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 1: share your rose and thorn of this week's episode or 920 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: I guess of well, it's not even this episode, right, 921 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 1: it's just everything. So up until this point, we want 922 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 1: your rose and your thorn. So your best or favorite 923 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 1: moment and then the messiest or your least favorite. Um. 924 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: The rose for me would be a hundred percent walking 925 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: onto that farm with Gabby, no doubt that, the one 926 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: on one to the brewery, So that was you know, 927 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: that was a highlight. I had so much fun. Um 928 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 1: and then a thorn. Does it have to be something 929 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 1: that you guys saw or can this be like it 930 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,760 Speaker 1: could be anything anything you experienced, Like we love behind 931 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: the scenes too, so um yeah, so a thorn for 932 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,399 Speaker 1: me is right before he flew to Paris, I woke 933 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,360 Speaker 1: up with like an insane pimple on my neck and like, no, 934 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: this thing was like Quincy described as being an alien 935 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,760 Speaker 1: growing out of my neck. So I wore a bandana 936 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 1: around my neck through the whole trip to Paris. And 937 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: we need this on the Bloopers. Someone needs it. They 938 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: have video footage and me walking around with a bandana 939 00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: tied around my neck. If you were like, what's he 940 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: trying to of? Like, dude, is this a fashion statement? 941 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: And I'm like no, there's an alien like in my neck. Wait, 942 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna see actual footage of like guys in a 943 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: few weeks, like all putting bandanas around their necks just 944 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 1: to try to match Johnny. Oh I swear yeah. I 945 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: had my my Levi jacket with a bandana ty. It 946 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 1: looked amazing, but it was prickly to cover up a 947 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 1: pinpole that was the size of like an orange. I 948 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: feel like that's going to be really relatable to anyone 949 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: who release the footage of all right, well, Johnny, the 950 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 1: time has come where we gotta kick you off and 951 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 1: keep talking so much fun. I know this was great, 952 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,839 Speaker 1: Yes see, it wasn't yet bad. I feel like, come on, 953 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 1: and you're all kind of nervous or hesitant, and we're 954 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: also sarcastic though, because so you could have like just 955 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 1: not meant that, you know, No, I meant it. She's like, 956 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 1: she's like, I hate this kid. No, No, I actually no, 957 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: I like you. I like you. You have a good 958 00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: head on your shoulders. Kid. You're Dc'm alright, I'm all right. 959 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 1: Um well, Johnny, we will see you very soon at 960 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,839 Speaker 1: either the mentel all or the finale, and we can't 961 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 1: wait to see that backflip. But in the meantime, hang 962 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,800 Speaker 1: in there, have fun watching all of this crazy journey unfold. 963 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: It was so nice meeting too, and I appreciate you 964 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,919 Speaker 1: for having me of course, of course, thanks Johnny, take care. 965 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 1: All right, Well, that was fun having another one of 966 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 1: this season's fellas on with us, and I feel like 967 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 1: he got a little bit more comfortable with us as 968 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: time went on, to like let us guard down, which 969 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 1: was fun to see Oh he did. Oh he did 970 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 1: with them, but he came, he came ready with the 971 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 1: jokes right off the bat. It was just more like 972 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: the vulnerable you know, got he's got to warm up 973 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: with us for that, but he'll come roasting us right away. 974 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 1: I mean, from what we've seen with him and Gabby already, 975 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 1: I mean I feel like that was to be expected. 976 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, you gotta have that if you're gonna if 977 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna date Gabby. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Um So, a 978 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,840 Speaker 1: huge shout out to Johnny, thank you for joining us today, 979 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: and and even bigger thank you to all of our 980 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 1: incredible Happy Hour listeners. We couldn't be here doing this 981 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,720 Speaker 1: without you and everybody. Don't forget that. 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