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Speaker 2: Previously on Death and Deceit in Alliance.
Speaker 3: The murder of a mother of five in her own
Speaker 3: home stunt the small town of Alliance, Ohio. Twenty six
Speaker 3: year old i Ron Lang found in a pool of
Speaker 3: her own blood.
Speaker 4: This case is.
Speaker 3: Filled with sex, secrets, and surprises. The attack grabbed headlines
Speaker 3: as police hunted for a killer.
Speaker 5: I was showing a photo of Joseph Wilms. It was
Speaker 5: not the man I thought leading the residents of.
Speaker 4: Nazis last what motivated them to give false statements?
Speaker 3: Did the system convict the wrong.
Speaker 4: That pretty much dead in the water.
Speaker 6: We need new evidence.
Speaker 2: This is Death and Deceit in Alliance, a real time
Speaker 2: investigation into whether David Thorne killed Yvonne Lane. I'm Maggie Freeling.
Speaker 2: To start this journey, I want to take you back
Speaker 2: to nineteen seventy two. That's when David was born to
Speaker 2: Priscilla and David Thorn in Cleveland Ohio. David was raised
Speaker 2: in a trailer in Ravenna, a town just a half
Speaker 2: hour away from Alliance. David's dad was in the military
Speaker 2: and was often not home. He had done tours in Vietnam,
Speaker 2: and once he was home, he didn't like civilian life,
Speaker 2: so he reenlisted. His mother was left to take care
Speaker 2: of David on her own, but she also had to
Speaker 2: make a living and was a long haul trucker, so
Speaker 2: she was often gone for weeks at a time as well.
Speaker 2: Hi is this Priscilla, Yes it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I moved my driver over the road.
Speaker 7: I went to Canada and that wow.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was my big chance.
Speaker 5: You way.
Speaker 2: And then when he was five, the course of his
Speaker 2: life changed. David's dad was dealing with a lot of
Speaker 2: issues from his time in Vietnam.
Speaker 5: You know, he was in the Agent Orange.
Speaker 7: He went in after Agent Orange, and he was always
Speaker 7: telling them he at she had es that and they
Speaker 7: said nothing was wrong with him, and you know, he
Speaker 7: had bad headaches.
Speaker 2: What did he say.
Speaker 7: He talked to me for quite a few hours, James Wareless,
Speaker 7: just questioning everything like that. Don't hardly have friends with me,
Speaker 7: you know, he wasn't he wasn't himself.
Speaker 5: He was talking monol if.
Speaker 7: He talked to me for quite a few hours.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 6: And he told me he can I'll be home Saturday.
Speaker 6: And I go, what it was?
Speaker 7: Fy? He goes, I go, you ud go?
Speaker 5: How want to tell Fie?
Speaker 7: You know? And he don't worry, I'll be home now, way.
Speaker 2: Out the car and shouting, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Took me over twenty some years to be able to
Speaker 7: say that without crying.
Speaker 2: I mean, that is really really difficult. Afterwards, family life
Speaker 2: started to spiral. David was lucky though. He went to
Speaker 2: live with his grandparents when he was six and they
Speaker 2: went on to raise him. In talking about his childhood,
Speaker 2: David seems to glide by all the tumult. He says
Speaker 2: he was a happy kid raised by his grandparents.
Speaker 8: I guess it would be. I would assume that she
Speaker 8: had kind of consider it kind of boring. I didn't
Speaker 8: really do much work. Kicked in with a couple of
Speaker 8: the friends that I had.
Speaker 6: And we had upon how he's a fish. Hunt.
Speaker 2: This is David's aunt Vickie.
Speaker 7: He could run ATV's out there and hunt or do
Speaker 7: whatever you want to do.
Speaker 9: So I would say David had a good life out there.
Speaker 9: David was always an animal lover. He was always gifted
Speaker 9: it humor. Even now when I see him in prison
Speaker 9: and we do our video visit and we visit that guy,
Speaker 9: no matter how are you feeling, it's.
Speaker 5: Always in good spirit, smiling at telling Joe.
Speaker 2: So, David had a lot of pread. At around seventeen,
Speaker 2: in his junior year of high school, he entered a
Speaker 2: trade school. He was studying printing, hunting trades.
Speaker 5: Yeah, from a hobject printing to the stream printing for gear.
Speaker 2: And that's where he met Yvonne Lane. Yvonne was born
Speaker 2: just two months before David. She had two sisters and
Speaker 2: grew up an Alliance. Historically, Alliance had been a thriving
Speaker 2: manufacturing and railroad hub. Then manufacturing left and it became
Speaker 2: part of the rust belt. In the nineteen sixties, the
Speaker 2: population peaked, and at the time of Yvonne's murder, Alliance
Speaker 2: was home to twenty three thousand people, and they were
Speaker 2: not prosperous. The median income for a household was about
Speaker 2: half that of the rest of the state. Unlike David's,
Speaker 2: Yvonne's childhood is basically a mystery to me. I couldn't
Speaker 2: reach her family and friends could really only speak about
Speaker 2: her older years. What I do know is that she
Speaker 2: grew up in a super religious Jehovah's Witness household, which
Speaker 2: must have been challenging. As Yvonne got older, she started
Speaker 2: to rebel and attract a lot of male attamps. She
Speaker 2: had her first child at sixteen. From what I understand,
Speaker 2: the child's father wasn't much in the picture. Yvonne was young,
Speaker 2: and her parents wound up doing most of the caretaking
Speaker 2: of her son. Yvonne, now a mother, was looking to
Speaker 2: do something with her life, so she decided to go
Speaker 2: to school for cosmetology, and that's where she met David.
Speaker 2: They went to the sat In Trade School. David says
Speaker 2: he'd seen Yvonne around for years and he was always
Speaker 2: struck by her looks. He says, she was gorgeous.
Speaker 8: Of course, that's what attracted me to her in the
Speaker 8: first place. I'd just seen her at the school, so
Speaker 8: whenever I talked to her, it was just then patting.
Speaker 6: In the hall the that dodge.
Speaker 2: And for the record, David was also handsome and had friends.
Speaker 2: He was kind and caring. With the looks and personality,
Speaker 2: I'd say he was also a couch. To this date,
Speaker 2: over a year of research, I have yet to come
Speaker 2: across one person who had anything bad to say about David.
Speaker 2: After graduating, David worked making decals for restored cars. He
Speaker 2: was doing pretty well for himself, making good money, and
Speaker 2: everything was on the right track. One day in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety five, David says he was at an auto parts store.
Speaker 6: And that's where I had seen her again.
Speaker 2: By her, he means Yvonne.
Speaker 6: As soon as she.
Speaker 8: Come walking in, he just kind of cast me on
Speaker 8: the shoulder and points. I was at the register in line,
Speaker 8: getting ready to buy something, and I turned back and
Speaker 8: I looked and I recognized her that I couldn't place
Speaker 8: her name because I knew that it was not a
Speaker 8: common name, but I couldn't remember it being that it
Speaker 8: was I would say, five, five years old, six years
Speaker 8: later almost so by the time we go out, she
Speaker 8: comes walking out, and then it just dawned on me
Speaker 8: what her name was. So I said, you're gone, and
Speaker 8: she looked over and she goes, I didn't think you
Speaker 8: recognized me, And I told her I said, I couldn't
Speaker 8: place the name that at first it took me a second,
Speaker 8: and then she just kind of laughed and we started talking.
Speaker 2: From there, David says he fixed her car and that's
Speaker 2: how the relationship started. David's aunt remember seeing them at
Speaker 2: family gatherings.
Speaker 5: Alice thought she was very nice, very pretty.
Speaker 7: I can see why he fell loved.
Speaker 2: Her, and she seems like she made him happy.
Speaker 6: I think she did, I really do.
Speaker 2: I asked David to describe you, Vonne.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess I would have to describe it almost just
Speaker 4: a social butterfly, because she could pretty much talk to anybody.
Speaker 4: If you were in the garage working on something, she
Speaker 4: could talk to you, be knowledgeable about it. And her
Speaker 4: only big topics that she didn't want to talk about
Speaker 4: were politics and religion.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: But she could put on the next clothes, we could
Speaker 5: go anywhere.
Speaker 4: We could put on blood clothes and joke on the
Speaker 4: four wheeler and build luodbogging. I went into the car,
Speaker 4: so you know, we went from swap meets to drag
Speaker 4: races to different track advents, and I mean she was
Speaker 4: sheer knowledgeable about it.
Speaker 5: I mean she was into it.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like I was just forcing her hand and
Speaker 4: dragging her along on everything.
Speaker 5: At the bloodler wanted to do or anything.
Speaker 2: By the time she and David started dating, Yvonne had
Speaker 2: three kids. Her first was in the custody of Yvon's parents.
Speaker 6: I honestly thought that he was her.
Speaker 8: Brother, that maybe her parents had a kid, and you
Speaker 8: know later in life that they didn't actually intend on
Speaker 8: having because whenever we had gone over there, it's he'd
Speaker 8: call her sissy. So I just I just cook it
Speaker 8: with the face that year that that was its hisster,
Speaker 8: you know.
Speaker 6: What I mean.
Speaker 2: Yvonne's second child is Preston, born three years after her first.
Speaker 2: This is Preston. He was six when his mother died.
Speaker 10: She loved playing flowers, did that lot? We went for
Speaker 10: walks a lot. We played video gos. She was a
Speaker 10: terrible cook. She loves calling jokes.
Speaker 2: What would she make that was so bad?
Speaker 5: Well, the world's best bounce on eggs. They're like lover
Speaker 5: and can you go to the eggs of the super Boss.
Speaker 2: Do you remember ever meeting David.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I've met him quite a few times, a couple
Speaker 10: of times at the house, but mainly at his house.
Speaker 2: Oh, she would bring you guys over to his house.
Speaker 10: Yeah, this is a really cool guy. It's always really
Speaker 10: nice to me. Sometimes it would only hang out with
Speaker 10: just me.
Speaker 11: About maybe some Christmas stuff before or maybe it was
Speaker 11: a birthday.
Speaker 2: Pregnant, Yvonne's third and youngest at the time was born
Speaker 2: with a rare genetic condition called fragile X, causing developmental delays,
Speaker 2: learning disabilities, and social and behavior problems. Yvonne was actually
Speaker 2: in the middle of a lawsuit against the Alliance City Hospital,
Speaker 2: claiming they cut off her son's air supply during birth
Speaker 2: and caused birth injuries. Yvonne wasn't working when she died.
Speaker 2: She was receiving public assistance, including Social Security, for her
Speaker 2: son's disabilities, so a lawsuit could have yielded much needed money.
Speaker 2: The father of Yvonne's second and third children is Eric Cameron.
Speaker 2: Yvonn and Eric's lives would be intertwined four years, through
Speaker 2: good times and bad. Eric was constantly in and out
Speaker 2: of prison, and Yvonne must have been overwhelmed taking care
Speaker 2: of the kids by herself, though fortunately Eric's mother took
Speaker 2: in Vinnie, Yvonne's disabled child, and her parents had custody
Speaker 2: of her first so to see her kids, Yvonne shuttled
Speaker 2: back and forth between Eric's mother's house and her parents' house.
Speaker 2: When David entered the picture, Eric was in jail. I'm
Speaker 2: not exactly sure for what. Around this time. He had
Speaker 2: many charges, including domestic assault. Yvonne and David dated for
Speaker 2: about a year, including after Eric got home from jail.
Speaker 2: David says Eric was continually interfering in his relationship with Yvonne,
Speaker 2: getting angry when Yvonne would take the kids out with him.
Speaker 2: David says that one time Eric took his anger out
Speaker 2: on David and destroyed one of his customer's cars. David
Speaker 2: says that was one of the last straws. David was
Speaker 2: convinced that a relationship with Yvonne was not sustainable with
Speaker 2: Eric around, so eventually they broke up.
Speaker 5: You know, her and I didn't grow up hard or
Speaker 5: anything like that. We got along great.
Speaker 8: I still had I still had a lot of love
Speaker 8: for her, you know, so you had feelings even if
Speaker 8: you break up. I think that's why people are so
Speaker 8: mean to each other when they break up, is because
Speaker 8: they truly love them, and that's what makes the hurt
Speaker 8: that much more because you love them. And so when
Speaker 8: something happened that you guys break up, you kind of
Speaker 8: try to turn that switch off, and that's the only
Speaker 8: way to make everything bearable is to.
Speaker 6: Be angry with that person.
Speaker 12: And her and I never really had that because we
Speaker 12: weren't breaking up for what either one of us were doing.
Speaker 12: We were breaking up because of Eric, you know. And
Speaker 12: he was always going to be present because he was
Speaker 12: the father of her other kids.
Speaker 2: So, by all accounts, Yvonne's relationship with Eric was up
Speaker 2: and down.
Speaker 7: Eric and Yvonne had they were good, but they had
Speaker 7: some bad qualities when they're together.
Speaker 2: This is Tracy Loa, Eric's sister. Now I want to
Speaker 2: pause for a second. At this point, Yvonne is around
Speaker 2: twenty four, has three kids with two different dads, and
Speaker 2: no one, especially me, is shaming her at all. I
Speaker 2: don't care how many people someone sleeps with, or how
Speaker 2: many kids they have at what age. God knows. I
Speaker 2: was doing all sorts of things. But it is important
Speaker 2: to talk about because all of this will play a
Speaker 2: crucial role in her murder investigation. So you guys had
Speaker 2: heard back then that she was sleeping with a lot
Speaker 2: of people. I mean, did Eric confront her about this?
Speaker 13: Yes, it's been confronted, so and that was a lot
Speaker 13: of the issues that she actually cheated on them a
Speaker 13: couple of times.
Speaker 5: That's why we were questioned questioning, and.
Speaker 2: By questioning, she means the paternity of her second and
Speaker 2: third kids, whether or not they were actually Eric's. They were,
Speaker 2: but they thought about it. And these fights sounded violent.
Speaker 13: And I'm not saying she wasn't, but at the same time,
Speaker 13: it was both.
Speaker 2: Because she was hit She hit Eric too quite.
Speaker 5: A few times.
Speaker 2: Preston, who again was just six at the time, remembers
Speaker 2: the fights between his dad, Eric and his mother.
Speaker 5: I loved her. She's crazy, but I loved her. She's
Speaker 5: definitely crazy. She had a seco of.
Speaker 10: It, kind of like a jack go and hide thing,
Speaker 10: you know, the times everything she would type, personality, a.
Speaker 5: Hunch you on the faces from baker cake.
Speaker 2: Afterwards, David says he never saw any of that. David said,
Speaker 2: they got along great and she was wonderful.
Speaker 10: It would never round anybody, and only round pretty much.
Speaker 11: Just do I ever seen her streak out towards anybody
Speaker 11: other than my dad but me, And a few times
Speaker 11: where she duc take me to my bed in port
Speaker 11: soda on me.
Speaker 5: You just left me there.
Speaker 2: That sounds kind of abusive.
Speaker 5: It definitely it.
Speaker 10: I tried to kind of kind of twisted, but at
Speaker 10: the same time, then she went through things like it's
Speaker 10: like she would snap out of it and then she'd
Speaker 10: be like the nice tours of the world. I don't know,
Speaker 10: it's kind of like she would just it's kind of
Speaker 10: use your patience with me or something. So like one
Speaker 10: time she was talking on the phone and I kept
Speaker 10: trying to get her attention. Of course, you know a
Speaker 10: kid to being a kid that kept pulling out of
Speaker 10: her shirt to get her attention. She told me to
Speaker 10: stop and I didn't, so she touched me square on
Speaker 10: my nose and duc take me.
Speaker 5: She was over to the duct taping, so so she
Speaker 5: was done with her phone call.
Speaker 2: Shocking allegations that I can't confirm. But I don't know
Speaker 2: why Presston would lie about mom, who he says he loved.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if her mood swings play into
Speaker 2: Yvonne's murder or not. But I had only ever heard
Speaker 2: from David that Yvonne was a great mom and a
Speaker 2: lovely person, and Preston, her son, says she wasn't violent
Speaker 2: with David. But now I'm seeing a different side of Yvonne,
Speaker 2: and I'm wondering did she piss someone off like Eric. Maybe,
Speaker 2: as I'm hearing all this, I can't help but wonder
Speaker 2: if Eric isn't a more likely suspect than David. Their
Speaker 2: relationship featured jealousy, cheating, and physical violence. Sure makes it
Speaker 2: seem to me that in an emotional fit, someone in
Speaker 2: Eric's position might lose control, grab a kitchen knife. Say
Speaker 2: remember that murder scene. It looked like it was personal.
Speaker 2: The level of violence was so enormous. Things were complicated
Speaker 2: in Yvonne's life. There were kids to take care of,
Speaker 2: and fathers to juggle, and parents of those fathers taking
Speaker 2: care of her kids. She seems to have struggled to
Speaker 2: make money, and her temper too, maybe added to the chaos,
Speaker 2: which may be understandable given how much she had to
Speaker 2: manage in her life and for Yvonne, things were about
Speaker 2: to get even more complicated. In nineteen ninety six, a
Speaker 2: few months after David and Yvonne broke up, Yvonne was
Speaker 2: back with Eric, but David got a surprise phone call
Speaker 2: from her. She was pregnant again and she thought David
Speaker 2: was the dad.
Speaker 4: She asked me if I wanted her to have an abortion,
Speaker 4: I told her, I said, I don't know if the
Speaker 4: child is mine, but if the child is mine, I'm
Speaker 4: not paying.
Speaker 5: For an abortion. That was pretty much the end of
Speaker 5: her or even talking for a minute.
Speaker 2: David gets another call from Yvonne. A few months later.
Speaker 4: Yvonne called back saying that she needed to go to
Speaker 4: the hospital. She felt that she was having a miscarriage.
Speaker 2: But she wasn't. She was still pregnant. And a few
Speaker 2: months go by and then David hears from Yvonne again.
Speaker 2: The baby is born November ninth, nineteen ninety six, shortly
Speaker 2: after Yvonne calls David for a paternity test.
Speaker 8: I went over, I met her, I met him, and
Speaker 8: to be honest, upon saying him, there was almost there
Speaker 8: was no reason to even have the DNA.
Speaker 2: From the moment David saw his son, he says, he
Speaker 2: knew he was his.
Speaker 8: I mean he was mini me. If he's seen him, yeah,
Speaker 8: if she's seen him at that time, that was that
Speaker 8: was me at the same age.
Speaker 2: David did take a paternity test just to be sure,
Speaker 2: and as expected, Brandon was his. Yvonne wanted David to
Speaker 2: pay child support. It was fixed at three hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty one dollars every month, which he says he had
Speaker 2: no problem paying. He says he wanted to support his
Speaker 2: son and be a good dad, and at this point,
Speaker 2: David was twenty four and ready for the responsibility. He
Speaker 2: had the job, the stability, and was looking forward to
Speaker 2: raising Brandon. David and Yvon worked out an agreeable visitation schedule,
Speaker 2: and he and Brandon started to get to know each other.
Speaker 2: Can you tell me about that bond you guys had.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was actually pretty instantaneous, because I mean as
Speaker 8: soon as I saw him, I mean, I recognize myself,
Speaker 8: but well, you know, he was a little shy at first,
Speaker 8: but I'm a fairly outgoing person, so I didn't really
Speaker 8: let him just look at me.
Speaker 6: I just picked him up and kind of went from there.
Speaker 2: About two years later, by the time David was twenty six,
Speaker 2: he was taking Brandon on all kinds of adventures to
Speaker 2: fish in his pond and hiking to show him all
Speaker 2: sorts of wild animals. Brandon loved animals like deer and foxes.
Speaker 2: David said. Brandon also loved coming to his house because
Speaker 2: David raised exotic animals, including a cougar cub named Harley.
Speaker 8: I personally only ever owned Harley. But I've had dozens
Speaker 8: of lion cubs and tiger cubs and other cougars, and
Speaker 8: I had a multitude of snakes though myself that I
Speaker 8: had big body snake for bowers and pythons, but Harley
Speaker 8: was the only big cat. And I mean, it's kind
Speaker 8: of odd to have seen, you know, one hundred and
Speaker 8: thirty five pound cougar that the Little Box trained.
Speaker 2: There's a photo of Brandon and David with Harley. From
Speaker 2: all accounts, David and Yvonne had a good relationship, even
Speaker 2: if they were broken up and seeing other people. In fact,
Speaker 2: David says they were talking about getting back together.
Speaker 8: You know, I had killings for her. She's the mother
Speaker 8: of my child, and I never not liked her. I
Speaker 8: mean when I was I was young, and like I said,
Speaker 8: so it's pretty I started talking and everything, and yeah,
Speaker 8: we've started kind of a relationship behind the scenes because
Speaker 8: I was stilled dating somebody.
Speaker 2: And Yvonne was technically still with Eric, although he was
Speaker 2: back in prison on a drug charge.
Speaker 8: And so you know, her and I became active again
Speaker 8: with each other. Her and I had to kind of
Speaker 8: stipball the idea about moving away to one app back
Speaker 8: of moving out west and or going to the Florida
Speaker 8: and potentially Atlanta.
Speaker 2: And this is where David, being the nice guy that
Speaker 2: he was comes into play. From an outsider's view and
Speaker 2: what family members have told me, it seems like Eric
Speaker 2: was the bad boy Yvonne couldn't quit. Whenever things got
Speaker 2: bad with Eric, Yvonne would look for stability with David,
Speaker 2: the sweet man with the good job and reliable income.
Speaker 2: David told me they were even talking about maybe getting
Speaker 2: back together and leaving Ohio and stuff like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is David's aunt again. I had heard that too.
Speaker 6: You did hear that?
Speaker 2: Okay, I did hear that. Do you remember?
Speaker 9: Because I thought they were getting back together what I
Speaker 9: was hearing.
Speaker 2: It's the spring of nineteen ninety nine, and yvon now
Speaker 2: has five boys, ten, six, four, two and a baby.
Speaker 2: She says her newest is again Eric Cameron's the biological
Speaker 2: father of two of her other children. In the evening
Speaker 2: of March thirty first, nineteen ninety nine, David went to
Speaker 2: his martial arts class. He had gotten into shoot fighting,
Speaker 2: a combination of a bunch of martial arts techniques.
Speaker 8: Shoot stay like how a reclo would shoot him through
Speaker 8: a shoot Yeah, good night down.
Speaker 2: Yvonne's body was discovered on April Fool's Day, nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 2: and was presumably murdered the night of March thirty first,
Speaker 2: and David says he can account for all his time.
Speaker 2: That night, he brought his cougar cub to martial arts
Speaker 2: class to show it off. Then after class, he says,
Speaker 2: he went to his girlfriend's house for a little dropped
Speaker 2: off the cub, and went to sleep. At about one
Speaker 2: a m. The next morning, he clocked into work at
Speaker 2: six ten am. At ten fifteen, he took his lunch break,
Speaker 2: and pretty much as soon as he got back to work.
Speaker 14: All of a sudden, my bough son come running into
Speaker 14: my room and he said that I need to get
Speaker 14: on the phone, but it was important and my grandfather
Speaker 14: was calling.
Speaker 6: And so then I told him to, you know, tell
Speaker 6: me what happened.
Speaker 8: And he said that she was murdered, but her mom
Speaker 8: had found her, that she was stays down in a
Speaker 8: pool of blood. I'm hearing the word that he was saying,
Speaker 8: but they're just not making sense. And then the realization
Speaker 8: of it coming in that this had actually.
Speaker 2: Happened, twenty six year old Yvonne Lane was dead.
Speaker 8: So, I mean I just pulled my boss to son
Speaker 8: right there. I was like, you know, I gotta go,
Speaker 8: and I'm half explaining of what's going is I'm walking
Speaker 8: out the door and he's following out to the car.
Speaker 2: What were you thinking when all of this went down?
Speaker 2: Like what was going through your head? I mean, I
Speaker 2: can't even imagine. And your son was in the house
Speaker 2: in the pop bench.
Speaker 8: Well whenever I initially got the call, and then I
Speaker 8: go over and I pick him up.
Speaker 6: I mean, just like shock and awe.
Speaker 8: It's like as if it's not even real, like something
Speaker 8: has to be wrong, you know what I mean, It
Speaker 8: can't be true.
Speaker 2: But it was. Yvonne Lane, the mother of David's child,
Speaker 2: was dead and David was about to be the chief
Speaker 2: suspect coming up on death and deceit in Alliance.
Speaker 3: Found in a pool of her own blood because she
Speaker 3: was murdered.
Speaker 7: And I I mean, you could have just knocked.
Speaker 8: Me over right now.
Speaker 4: They tell me it's pretty body scene in there, so
Speaker 4: gloves envoys on this one, but that, I mean, there's
Speaker 4: just a massive amount of blood around her face.
Speaker 6: Shock and awe.
Speaker 8: It's like as if it's not even real, like something
Speaker 8: has to be wrong.
Speaker 10: And then one.
Speaker 2: Day I just lost everything and I didn't care about
Speaker 2: life no more, and David knew about it, need took
Speaker 2: advantage of me death and deceit. In Alliance is produced
Speaker 2: and reported by me Maggie Freeling, with editorial consulting from
Speaker 2: Amber Hunt. Aaron Case is our legal researcher. Our executive
Speaker 2: producer is Steve Fishman. Our engineer and production coordinator is
Speaker 2: Austin Smith. Eric Axelrod is our assistant producer.