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Speaker 2: of tickets. The franchise tag. Pro Football Talk wrote an

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Speaker 2: basically John Randall, an absolute stud. Carolina Burns. That situation

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Speaker 2: athleticism of these individuals. Now here's the problem. Now he

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Speaker 2: went to Notre Dame, so they will run more of

429
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Speaker 2: a physical style offense. I hear this all the time.

430
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 2: In the NBA, the players have never been more talented.

431
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 2: Well true, but the basketball has never been worse, and

432
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 2: the teams as a whole have never been worse. In

433
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: the league, not debatable. Guys are moving NonStop. There are

434
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Speaker 2: two or three teams who are excellent, the Denver Nuggets,

435
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics, that could play in any era. Most

436
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: of these teams are a mismash of just guys from

437
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 2: like last year or this year. There's no continuity on

438
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Speaker 2: the team. Baseball, it matters less like I can throw

439
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: together a team in one year and you can win

440
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: one hundred games. Basketball cohesion matters a lot like football. Now.

441
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: The problem is the athletes at the offensive line position

442
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 2: are obviously currently awesome. The problem is the way you

443
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: play in college football and the spread offenses. Unlike quarterback,

444
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: Even if your offense is nothing like the offense that

445
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna play in the pros, it's relatively easy to adapt.

446
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 2: For the most part. You should be able to figure out,

447
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: if you've been a shotgun in your entire career, how

448
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: to take the center quarterback exchange pretty seamlessly. Jared Goff's

449
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: a good example. Only shotgun in college like transition pretty

450
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: easily takes maybe six months or whatever, but you can

451
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: become pretty comfortable at it. And throws are throws like

452
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: the go route, and you're gonna end up running a

453
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: lot of shotgun in the pros anyway. But pro football,

454
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Speaker 2: especially in the run game and the physicality of the

455
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: defensive lineman that you play it is a huge, huge jump.

456
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 2: So there's clearly physically a lot of guys that have

457
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: a lot to work with, and I bet offensive linemen

458
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 2: or offensive line coaches all over the league are very,

459
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Speaker 2: very intrigued. But the transition is not easy. It's not

460
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 2: Now it's easier. And this is why when I asked

461
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Speaker 2: Jason light about the Shanahan offense, and he simply said,

462
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: like every guy says, it's easier on the quarterback. It's

463
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Speaker 2: also easier on the offen sensive line because in the

464
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 2: run game, I don't need you to be Larry Allen

465
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: and pick up you know, Jalen Carter or Fletcher Cox

466
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 2: or Aaron Donald and drive him four or five yards back.

467
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 2: It's positional block. It's using your athleticism. Now, ultimately a

468
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 2: game comes down to a third and eight, that guy's

469
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 2: going to be at a disadvantage. But if you have

470
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 2: a talented group of skill guys and a good offensive coordinator,

471
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 2: I can circumvent a lot of those situations because of

472
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Speaker 2: the way the offense is called. So I think a

473
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Speaker 2: lot of these teams that run that offense that need

474
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: offensive linemen are clearly going to be in to draft

475
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Speaker 2: these offensive linemen in the first couple of rounds because

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Speaker 2: the athleticism, the speed, the speed matters in a zone

477
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: blocking scheme, how fast your feed are, how fast you

478
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Speaker 2: can go laterally. You know, in a power scheme, athleticism

479
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 2: is less important. Obviously, you would like a complete player, right,

480
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: You would love Jason Kelce or Trent Williams or whoever

481
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 2: the best players are at their individual Zach Martin, the

482
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: best can play in any scheme. A lot of guys can't.

483
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: A lot of guys would struggle in the opposite of

484
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: the scheme they're playing in. If they are a power

485
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 2: guy and they're playing in more of a pro style

486
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 2: gap not having to move laterally as much. I put

487
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 2: them in the Shanahan scheme and they're asked to do that,

488
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: it's a problem and vice versa. Those guys who aren't

489
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Speaker 2: as powerful, I put them in more of a power

490
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: run scheme, they're gonna be at a disadvantage. So I

491
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Speaker 2: think the offensive lineman the numbers on the forty is

492
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Speaker 2: obviously the forty. How often are they running the forty

493
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: it's more than ten and the twenty, But the forty

494
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: yard dashes with offensive linemen historically have translated to success

495
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 2: because it's just a major display of athleticism for a

496
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Speaker 2: guy that weighs anywhere from three hundred and ten to

497
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Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty pounds. Okay, let's let's fly around

498
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: a couple stories. You know, Pro Football Talk, which is

499
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: Mike Florio basically has been reporting for a while, and

500
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: it's pretty well out there now. The Atlanta Falcons are

501
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 2: circling the wagons on Kirk Cousins, and they feel like

502
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 2: they are a quarterback away from being really good, and

503
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 2: that honestly might be true because you watch him. Last year.

504
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: They were pretty damn competitive with Desmond Ritter, who, to me,

505
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: I don't even think he's a top fifty quarterback in

506
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: the NFL. Think about that, they were competitive with a

507
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 2: guy who's probably not a top fifty quarterback in the NFL.

508
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: Have a solid defense and clearly have a lot of

509
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: skill guys on offense. And if your cousins, let's face it,

510
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: last year around this time, it didn't even feel like

511
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: Minnesota was all in on him. It felt like they

512
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: were actively potentially trying to trade him last year. So

513
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: you don't quite forget that. Even if you're very comfortable

514
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 2: with the area, you like where your kids go to school,

515
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 2: you like where you live, you can always come back there, right,

516
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 2: I think Atlanta is going to offer him a lot

517
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: of money. And it's been well talked about the connection

518
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: because part of it I would go, ah, new coach,

519
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: he doesn't know these guys. That ain't the case. He

520
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: knows the group, knows the offense, knows the head coach,

521
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: been around these guys, knows them personally, and they're gonna

522
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 2: be willing to pay I think a number that Minnesota

523
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: simply won't. And I don't necessarily blame Minnesota, but you

524
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: get yourself in one of these positions, right, It's like, Okay,

525
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: let Cousins go, what are you gonna do? Like, what's

526
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: your plan? And I'm sure you have some plans, but

527
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 2: when you're not drafting super high, you don't control the draft,

528
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: so you need the area of luck on your side.

529
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, trade off to get a quarterback. Well, listen,

530
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: I like drafting a quarterback high as much as the

531
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: next guy. But we all know the hit rate on

532
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: those guys just isn't very high. So they find themselves

533
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: in a precarious situation. Maybe they're just you know, Cousins'

534
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: camp is just driving the price up, which is smart

535
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: business and They've proven to be very, very lucrative businessmen

536
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: because they've made a I think who said this, I

537
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: mean documented. I think he's already a top ten paid

538
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: player in the history of the league. Now those numbers

539
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: are going to dramatically change over the next ten years.

540
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: But Cousin's made a lot of money, and I would

541
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: imagine he's got a hundred million dollars more coming to

542
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: him in the next ten days. Peyton Manning, I've said

543
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: forever that I think Belichick. I'm honestly offended by everyone

544
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: shitting on Bill. Like, guys, we all watched him coach.

545
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: He was pretty damn good. Yeah, he was not good

546
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: without a quarterback. Most coaches are not. Most coaches are

547
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: not Andy Reid, and they can deal with like any

548
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: type quarterback. You give most quarterback or coaches a shitty quarterback.

549
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: Look Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, takeaway Matt Stafford and Purty

550
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: from them. How'd to go? So I'm lose a lot

551
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: of games. I saw Kyle get his ass kick with

552
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: Nick Mullins and CJ. Beferd. I saw last year Sean

553
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: McVay have no chance throughout the season. It took him

554
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: the one game with Baker Mayfield on Thursday night to

555
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: have a shot, and he had to claim him on Monday.

556
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: So it's very, very difficult. But perception becomes reality, and

557
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: there's usually some truth to perception. Bill's probably not the

558
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: easiest guy to deal with his personality, and he's not

559
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: for everybody, but he's clearly better than most of these guys.

560
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: Now there are variables, he's old, how much power does

561
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: he want? The only way to change perception, and especially

562
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: in a public job, is usually to use the media

563
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: to your advantage. And to me, Belichick, I've thought he

564
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: should do everything humanly possible to get on Thursday Night football.

565
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like that's gonna happen. Well, now Peyton

566
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: Manning and Omaha's going after him. Why not make Bill

567
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: a weekly guest because here's the thing with Thursday and

568
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: Monday night football. Thirty of the thirty two owners are

569
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: watching that broadcast. Think about that. The guys who signed

570
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: the checks, the guys who make the ultimate decisions yay

571
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: or nay, are watching that game no different than me

572
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: or Il. So if your Bill like, to me the

573
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: Omaha thing, obviously you could do. I'm sure you have

574
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: some ideas make fun stuff with Peyton. I think if

575
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: you can get consistently on that Peyton Manning broadcast, if

576
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: you're Belichick, you should try to do that, even if

577
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: it's just for a quarter, like the second quarter of

578
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: every game Monday Night Football that they're.

579
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 4: On, He's on with them.

580
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: He should be all over that, almost like a guest

581
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: hit on a radio show like Rogers. Every Tuesday, you

582
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: know he's on with McAfee. Every second quarter, you know

583
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,239
Speaker 2: Belichick's on. And I've said this for a while, like

584
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: once they hired Joe and Troy, I don't watch Peyton

585
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: and Eli anymore. Not that I love those guys. I'd

586
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: hang out those guys, and that's how I feel like

587
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 2: on that show, but once they got a real broadcast crew,

588
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: I want to watch the game. But if you told

589
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: me that Bill every second quarter for fifteen minutes is

590
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: on with those guys, I'm in. I change a channel.

591
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: So if I'm Peyton, that's one of my pitches, like,

592
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: we want you involved. It's not all seventeen games or whatever,

593
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: but whatever games were calling, whatever games were on, we

594
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: want you to be a part of it. And obviously

595
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: we'll pay you for it and last but not least,

596
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: see these cuts. I don't think they can become official

597
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: till the league year starts. And obviously there are mechanisms that,

598
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: you know, you can push it back till June one

599
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: to spread out the money. There are a lot of

600
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: moving parts. But the Broncos, because it's not official for

601
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: several days, not only did they cut Russell Wilson or

602
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: told them like you're not coming back, they told them like, hey, man,

603
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: if you want to fly to other facilities, you can

604
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: just act like you're truly a free agent right now,

605
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: even though technically you're not. So you want to go

606
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh, go to them, you want to Atlanta, New England, wherever,

607
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: go meet with the coaches. And I've heard a lot

608
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: of people say this that cover the Broncos really closely.

609
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: I found the Broncos is a tough watch. The last

610
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: I mean two years ago they were it was an embarrassment.

611
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: Even this year kind of boring. But I've heard Slaer

612
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: say this, I heard brock Huwart say this. He just

613
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: really struggles in the which is not an ideal way

614
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: to define a quarterback in the context of the offense.

615
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: Like after one read, he kind of just scrambles around

616
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: and it throws off the timing of everything else. So

617
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: there is a chance that some of these coaches are

618
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: just not going to be that into him. But the

619
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: one thing he's really got going for him if he's

620
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: willing to play. And I said this a couple of

621
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: days ago, the veteran minimum is based on your service time,

622
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: and someone wrote that it's his numbers, like a little

623
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: over one point two million dollars. That's the minimum ount

624
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: you can Bam, I might get Russell Wilson for one

625
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: point two million dollars if I'm the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's

626
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: why a lot of people have kind of put him there.

627
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense. Now, does that just

628
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: guarantee that they're going to be a lot better than

629
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: they've been? No? But would I rather have Russell Wilson

630
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: than Kenny Pickett? Of course I would, And maybe Pittsburgh

631
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: won't decide that. If they don't, I think I think

632
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: they're setting themselves up for failure. And they're an organization that,

633
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: let's face it, based on their history, has not been

634
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: having success, right, like going nine and eight for them

635
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 2: and getting your ass kicked in the first round is

636
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: not some accomplishment that's a big deal for a lot

637
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 2: of random teams. That's not the case with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

638
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: So if you're Pittsburgh, what if you get him maybe

639
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: a Jolty to eleven twelve wins. Even if he's just

640
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: this version of what he's been moving forward, it's still

641
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: better than what you have.

642
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: Okay, longtime pal.

643
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 2: Back when I knew him, though he didn't have three rings,

644
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: I still do know him, and now he has three rings.

645
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 4: Super Bowl Champ Brett Veach GM with the KANSAAE Chiefs.

646
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: What's up, bro, Hey, it's going good man. It's been

647
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: a while. I mean, it's always good to catch up

648
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: with you. But you know, it seems like yesterday we

649
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: were playing lunchtime hoops down in Philadelphia and working for

650
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: the Eagles, and now here we are and you're doing

651
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: your thing and we're doing our thing, and everything's good.

652
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: Right.

653
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 4: It's a small world.

654
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: I was telling I was telling someone that team those

655
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: couple of years in Philly, I know the league, Yeah,

656
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: you know, just it was obviously he worked for coach Reid,

657
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: who I'm going to talk to in a little bit

658
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: kind of like the chubbier version of Bill Walsh.

659
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean seriously, three super Bowl rings.

660
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: But how his impact on the coaching profession now is

661
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: you've been and you know this very lucky to be

662
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: so close to him and obviously now be a general

663
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 2: manager's got to be pretty special.

664
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly special.

665
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: And for as great of a coach he is, I mean,

666
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: he's as you know, Johnny, he's even a better person.

667
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: And he's one of those guys that comes in every

668
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: day with trying to make people better and inevitably he

669
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: makes everything better and that includes the product on the field.

670
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: But it's it's cool to be a part of, you know,

671
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: his coaching tree, personnel tree, if you will. But as

672
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: you mentioned, john you were there. I mean just think

673
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: about all the players and coaches that were there, from

674
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: Crazy as Bags and McDermott and Howie and Jason Light,

675
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean just Lewis Riddick. I mean, just a lot

676
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: of good people there, and I think it all starts

677
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: at the top of coach and you know, he goes

678
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: in there with that mindset of making every individual better

679
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: and that will yield great results both on and off

680
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: the field. And he's just been a legend and been

681
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: a blessing to work for him. Who'd ever thought Shade

682
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: he'd be a TV star now he's the best. I

683
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: mean I watch him every day too, So that's that's

684
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: also funny too, sitting there and thinking about him as

685
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: a rookie and.

686
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was part of guys for a minute in

687
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 4: the Chiefs, was it?

688
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

689
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we had him our first Foup Bowl

690
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: in Miami. But it's funny watching him on TV now.

691
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: And I always go back to like his rookie year

692
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: where the coach had one role, and that's like, don't

693
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: park in the coaches parking spot up at Lehigh at

694
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: training camp, and the very first day he pulled his

695
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: Hummer RESUV right on top of that spot and got

696
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: kicked out of a meeting. But he's the best. Love

697
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: him and love listening to him. He's done a great job.

698
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: But again it goes back to just being blessed to

699
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: be a round a lot of great people and coaches

700
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 1: and players as well.

701
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 4: You were a whoop or anything like that.

702
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: During games, you know to check the heart rate, No, no,

703
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: what do you think highest super Bowl? At this point?

704
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: You know, ten three down over time? When do you

705
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 2: how how could you even sit down during the Super Bowl.

706
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's fortunately our regular season has prepped us

707
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: for this. We don't play in any blowouts, we don't

708
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: play anybody out. Every game is close, and so to

709
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: a certain extent, I think we use our regular season

710
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: to prep us for the playoffs because all of our

711
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: games come down to the end. But I think it's

712
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the day knowing you have coach

713
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: Reid and one to five back there, just knowing that

714
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: if things are close, we'll always have a shot.

715
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 4: We'll always be in play to win a game.

716
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: But man, every every Super Bowl, and we've been blessed

717
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: and fortunate to win three of these now. But once

718
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: you leave that, you're like, Wow, that can't get any

719
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: more intense. And so I felt that way versus our

720
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: first winningst.

721
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 4: The nine Ers, Well, we were down, came back.

722
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: And then I felt more intensity for the Eagles game,

723
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: and I left that thinking it can't get more intense.

724
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 4: And then now here we have an overtime game.

725
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: And so I mean, they just the anxiety and the

726
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: stress every year, it seems like is more than the last.

727
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: You know, this team obviously Christmas, you know a low point.

728
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: It was pretty ugly. Coach Reid talked about it was

729
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: kind of like a drawn line in the sand type moment.

730
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 4: It's weird.

731
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: In your position, you got to be pessimistic but positively,

732
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 2: you know, right, you're always evaluating the team, but also

733
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: optimistic because that's part of the business. Were you did

734
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: you think this was gonna play out this way? You

735
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 2: know after that game where you're like, maybe this isn't

736
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: our year. There's nothing wrong with the Patriots didn't win

737
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: them all right?

738
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 4: Right?

739
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think after that game it it

740
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: was a defining point in our season. And had a

741
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: chance to talk with obviously coach Reid after every game

742
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: and then spoke with i think coach Naggie on Monday,

743
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: and what we talked about was, all right, let's just

744
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: be the best version of ourselves. And we're not the

745
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: team that we used to be and we're not going

746
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 1: to just roll the ball out there and score forty points.

747
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: But we still have Pat Mahomes, we still have a

748
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: really good offensive line, we have some great players on

749
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,479
Speaker 1: this team, and we have a great defense. So let's

750
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: just let's get back to square one. Let's do things

751
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: that our players are great at and you know, so

752
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: it's almost like that mindset of just going back to

753
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: the basics. And I know it sounds simple and it

754
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 1: sounds but you know, let's go back to day one,

755
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: install one concepts that players understand.

756
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 4: Just let these guys play fast.

757
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: And so we did that, and we leaned on our

758
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: defense operated offensively with that mindset, and then all of

759
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: a sudden, our offensive productions are going, you know, through

760
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: the roof. And and you know, we go into Miami

761
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: and I think that was the first time all year

762
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I think that.

763
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 4: We're back feeling good. Yeah, I mean you go out there,

764
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 4: it's negative.

765
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: And listen, I've played in a lot of cold games,

766
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: and I've been a part of a lot of There

767
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: was Delaware Star here, yeah, I mean for to four

768
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: guy growing up for Threeania, No not four three, but

769
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: growing up in Pennsylvania.

770
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, you're around some cold games.

771
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's not like Minnesota or anything like that,

772
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: but I mean there was nothing that I've experienced like that.

773
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: I mean the moment you walked out outside, I mean

774
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: everything just instantly froze. So then you watch our team

775
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,479
Speaker 1: go out there and execute it probably the highest leveled

776
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: did all year. I think you had a sense there. Look, look,

777
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: we have a tough road ahead going to Buffalo, going

778
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: to Baltimore, but this team is locked in their focused,

779
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: and then we just rode that wave of momentum right

780
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: through the playoffs.

781
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 4: Is this the hardest run?

782
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: Obviously? After that Miami, your first two road games playing

783
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, who's it plays really well against. I mean,

784
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: he's a great player, but plays really well against you guys,

785
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: and then that Baltimore team I thought, talent wise, had

786
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: to be one of the best rosters in the NFL.

787
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: I mean that's Is it almost more validating to win

788
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: on the road in a weird way?

789
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 4: I think it is. And you guys got spoiled play

790
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 4: a lot of whole games.

791
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I mean there is an advantage to

792
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: have it by a week, and there is an advantage

793
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: to only having to win one game in Boom you're

794
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: in the ANFC championship game. I mean, to have to

795
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: start off wild Card weekend and then go to two

796
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: of the.

797
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 4: Toughest places to play in the NFL.

798
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean talking about going to a Buffalo playing crazy

799
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: a great Josh Allen led team and then a week

800
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: later have to go to Baltimore. And I mean, obviously

801
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: everyone knows what they accomplished this year, just a powerhouse.

802
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: So I think what you take the most pride in

803
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: is this wasn't one of those years where we kind

804
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: of backdoored our way in. There was three upset and

805
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: we had the benefit of just beating some lower teams

806
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: by virtue of upsets. No, we had to do it

807
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: the hard way and we had to go We had

808
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: to beat an explosive offense in the Miami Dolphins, and

809
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: we had to play right off the bat in wild

810
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: card weekend, and then we had to go to Buffalo,

811
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: then we had to go to Baltimore and then play

812
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: the number one seed in San Francisco, forty nine ers

813
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: in the NFC. So if you weren't the best team

814
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: in the league, you can't do that. You can't accomplish

815
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: that unless you're the best team in the league. And

816
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: that's why it's so validating and so you know, exciting

817
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: for us as an organization to know that we took

818
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: the league's best shots at every level and we were

819
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: able to come out on top.

820
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: You know, you you're relatively famous obviously the GM, but

821
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 2: because of your connection with Mahomes and how much you

822
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: loved him. But this year's team, I mean I was

823
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: talking to someone earlier. The teams that gave the Niners

824
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: trouble this year were all the AFC North teams, right, Baltimore, Cleveland,

825
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: Tough TV. You guys were a defensive team. Yeah, and

826
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: you drafted all these guys. Was this the best tackling

827
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: secondary you've ever been around? All those guys hit, Yeah, listen,

828
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 2: it was the best secondar I've been around.

829
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: And that's because you have two studs in lj and

830
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: and Trent McDuffie. And then the safety play was was great,

831
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: and we lost Brian Cook, but you know, Mike Edwards

832
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: came in and helped us out.

833
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 4: Our young guy, Shamari Connor.

834
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: I think people will will get to know him more

835
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: as we go on here because he was a young

836
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: guy that I mean, he was really our fourth or

837
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: fifth safety, and then you know, injuries happened and young

838
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: guys are pressing his service and he was a guy

839
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: that Steve felt more and more comfortable with. So but

840
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: the one common denominator I think with that they're just

841
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: players that are so extremely smart. And I think Steve

842
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: actually mentioned this to me, And if you get Trance

843
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: to talk to Steve, but I think he would say

844
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: the same thing that you know, talent depending on the

845
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: year is always different, and you know a year in

846
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: and year out, you know you're you're both sides of

847
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: the football are contruced differently. But Steve had mentioned me

848
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: to one point. He said, from an intellect and a

849
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: football IQ, this is the best defense I've been around

850
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: these guys to understand the game. And I think I

851
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: would certainly echo echo those I mean, those guys are

852
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: just razor smart, razor sharp, and you know, I mean

853
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: not just the secondary. Then you talk about guys like

854
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: Nick Bolton and Drew trankwill and I mean, it's just

855
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: a really highly intelligent crew that love to play the

856
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: game and do things the right way.

857
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: Well, because since we're at the combine, obviously, when you

858
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 2: traded Tyreek and got the whole back, it's one thing

859
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: to trade a player like that and get a lot,

860
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: but then you got to make the picks. And if

861
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: I remember correctly, you might have traded up a little

862
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: bit to get McDuffie. But when you isolated McDuffie as

863
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: a guy that you really liked this pro When did

864
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: it start for you? I'm sure you watched him during

865
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: the fall, But just explain to me the scouting process.

866
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: Because now he's he has to be one of the

867
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: best young dbs in the league. I think that's debatable.

868
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that and you know how

869
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: this is done, because you know, you've been a part

870
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: of this for a long time, and he's one of

871
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: those guys that you spend hours going through multiple scenarios

872
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: at your picks. And I think that year because of

873
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: the trade we had two he did a two first rounders. Yeah,

874
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: and so we exhausted probably I don't know, six seven

875
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: eight different scenaris, none of which included McDuffie, because we

876
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: just felt like he was not going to be you know,

877
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: we had a window where we you know, we had

878
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: two picks late in the first round, and we knew

879
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: with one of them we can maybe move up five

880
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: to sixty seven spots, but you know, we have to

881
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: keep our picks, so we can't go into the top

882
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: ten and we're not gonna be able to trade all

883
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: these resources. So there's a window here and we went

884
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: through a bunch of players that we thought might be

885
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: still live in that window. He was not one of them,

886
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: and we had communications and discussions with New England, and

887
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: as we finalized that trade, it was a little bit

888
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 1: of a shock that he was still on the board.

889
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: What did you think, like top sixteen seventeen fifty took

890
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 2: Marcus Peters right right around there.

891
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 4: Fifteen sixteen, I think is where we had him.

892
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: You know most of those time, would you when you

893
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: project those guys to go fifteen sixteen, eight years ago,

894
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: ten eleven, twelve corner, Yeah, we're thinking worst case fifteen sixteen,

895
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: and so I think that pick was what twenty one? Yeah,

896
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: you traded up, So we had we were in conversations

897
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: with New England to potentially trade up, and you know,

898
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: we're looking at the board and we're like, oh my god,

899
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: he might make it there, And you know, we were

900
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: we were.

901
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 4: Certainly fortunate that happened.

902
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: And then we were equally excited that or hopeful that

903
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: George Carlostas wouldn't be selected, because he's one of both

904
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: those guys. We you know, we and listen, if there

905
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: would have been a huge run on corners, we may

906
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: have traded up for George because we felt that way

907
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: about George too. So that's one of those things where

908
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: the stars aligned and we were able to get two

909
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: great players that we wanted from the start of the

910
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: day and and it worked out that you know, they're

911
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: both here, and they're you know, they're both been in

912
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: the league for two years and they both have two

913
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: Super Bowl runs.

914
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 2: You think that's a key to your success than drafting

915
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: is like isolating specific players and not doing as much

916
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: like three or four guys, Like, no, these are two

917
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: or three guys, and obviously it has to be you're

918
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 2: not gonna like the new guy that's gonna go number

919
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: two when you're drafting thirty second, but have a decent

920
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: idea like and like we want this guy instead of like, well,

921
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 2: it could be these five guys where you feel conviction

922
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: because it goes back to Mahomes conviction, go get them,

923
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: McDuffie conviction, Karlofski's go get them and now they're part

924
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: of your Super Bowl champion teams.

925
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think early on, I mean that's especially have

926
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: to do harder later. It's harder later than the draft.

927
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: And you know, I think when you get into those

928
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: stages your your bank on traits and maybe untapped potential,

929
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: but early on, you only have so many cracks at

930
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: these guys, and you know, if there's a window that

931
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: makes sense, that's realistic, then identify this is who we

932
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: want and if we're able to to do that, and well, listen,

933
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: we tried to do it last year. I think we

934
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: tried to move up and we couldn't get it, so

935
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: we just we stayed put. But we weren't just moving up,

936
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: as you pointed out, just move up. We're moving up.

937
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: We won a specific player. We tried that last year.

938
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: Didn't work out, and we weren't, you know, we were

939
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: content with suck for that kid.

940
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

941
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: Well listen, you know, you know, we're fortunate that we

942
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: have Felix and we think he has a high upside,

943
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: so hopefully it all works out. And but I mean,

944
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: to your point into your original question, I think, yeah,

945
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: I mean, we always have a pocket of players that

946
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: if they fall within this window of our comfort level

947
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: that we're going to go up and get.

948
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: You're pretty comfortable being a GM now like is a

949
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: pretty normal Yeah.

950
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing it's is, you know, I'm

951
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: still not great at the media stuff, but you know

952
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean, it's easy to do stuff with

953
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: with you because of our prior relationship and going back

954
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: to our days and phillies.

955
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: But cut out negotiations like now it's Zach. You get

956
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: used to that, you know.

957
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 4: No, I mean, listen, it's tough because.

958
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: You have these players and you see them so much.

959
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 1: They're part of your extended family, and you have emotions

960
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: and feelings and you want to always do what's best

961
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: for everyone and you like to keep all these players,

962
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: and you know you just because of the way everything

963
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 1: is set up, you can't do it. And so that's

964
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, the every team and it's one of those

965
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: coach speech speeches every year.

966
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 4: Every team is different. Nope, team will ever be the same.

967
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: And that that's tough because you know, you see these

968
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: players and their sacrifices and what they mean to you

969
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: on a personal level but also on a professional level

970
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: and helping this team, you know, reach these unbelievable heights.

971
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: And so that's always tough this time of the year

972
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: to try to get deals done, but also have to

973
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: say good bias some players that develop the relationship with

974
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: so that will never get easy.

975
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 4: But understand that's just part of the job.

976
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: Well especially, I mean, you guys have some famous, high end,

977
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame level guys Tyreek. It's not like you

978
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: didn't think Tyreek was good when you traded it, right,

979
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: And the Christian situation last year got a little weird.

980
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: He's one of the all time great interior pass rushers, right,

981
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 2: But that situation also means a lot of money, and

982
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: you have a highly bad quarterback and I mean how

983
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 2: that situation keep you up at night? Ers or one

984
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: of those you have a good relationship you and coach

985
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: with him personally.

986
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: But well, it's one of those things where you have

987
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: a couple of guys, guys like that, and whether it

988
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: be Chris or LJ or you know, any of those

989
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 1: guys that are up this year. I mean, they're great

990
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: players and they're gonna be highly coveted throughout the league.

991
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 4: We know that.

992
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: And it's one of those deals where on one end,

993
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: you feel good because of the relationship because what we've

994
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: all accomplished together. But on the other end of things,

995
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it is a business for them as well. Yeah,

996
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: and if they have an opportunity to do something different

997
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: and you know, make more money elsewhere. You know, it

998
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: is a business at the end of the day, and

999
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: so it's that understanding both ways. So I mean, I

1000
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: know that they understand that if we can keep all

1001
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: these guys, we would, but it's tough. But we also

1002
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: understand that when they have opportunities that are unique, like

1003
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: Tyreek was one of those situations, like, you know, we

1004
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: didn't want to leave, and I don't think he wanted

1005
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: to leave, but he also knew that there was an

1006
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: opportunity for him to, you know, to do something and

1007
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: just a rare opportunity, and so that was tough for us.

1008
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: But it you know, like you said, it's it's part

1009
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: of the business and something that every geam has worked with.

1010
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 4: It's easier to make tough decisions once you win. Well, yeah,

1011
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 4: I think it's yeah, I mean it, you don't want

1012
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 4: to lose anybody.

1013
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: But the point, you know, well I think also too,

1014
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: I think it is this is baseball.

1015
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 4: You keep the mall right right right exactly. I think it.

1016
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: What is comforting to a certain extent is the belief

1017
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: not just in fifteen and in eighty seven and coach read,

1018
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: but you know, to our coaching staff, I think that

1019
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: we have a great setup in regards to the trust

1020
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 1: and the communication that my staff has with the coaching staff,

1021
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: and there is a belief that, you know, we can

1022
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: find players and I think you know, whether it be

1023
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: Isaiah p. Check on the offensive side, the Noah Grays

1024
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: on the offensive side, but on the on the secondary side,

1025
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: we've had a lot of young players, I mean El Johnson, Yeah, Watson,

1026
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: Williams McDuffie, I mean Snead. We believe not just in

1027
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: the draft process itself with our staff, but we believe

1028
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: in our coaches and that they will maximize everything from

1029
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: these players. So we're always going to go out there

1030
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 1: with the intent and effort to keep our best players

1031
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: and to have them mainstay be mainstays in Kansas City.

1032
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 4: But we also know that is a business.

1033
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: We can't keep everybody, and if we have to go

1034
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: down the path of seeing some players move on that

1035
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: we have a tremendous amount of confidence in our coaching staff.

1036
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 2: Can get you out of here. On this favorite Taylor

1037
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 2: Swift song, Oh God, will you be invited to the wedding?

1038
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't you know. I still haven't

1039
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 4: met her Taylor yet.

1040
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: Everyone else different question that's the first question I get

1041
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: from all of my immediate friends and family.

1042
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 4: So what's Taylor like. I'm like, I've never met her.

1043
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: I mean, like she comes to the games and like

1044
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: she's up there, and typically families come down and see

1045
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: the players. Travis goes up to see her. So I've

1046
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: seen her in passing and think mahomes famous times out

1047
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: back one hundred. Yeah, but it's been she's got some bangers. Yeah,

1048
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a wild ride. And you know, listen,

1049
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: maybe Travis will bring around every now and.

1050
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll of each congratulations. I mean all seriousness. That's

1051
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, man, I think you know how special

1052
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: three super Bowls.

1053
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 4: I mean it's yeah, it's now you want more.

1054
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, well it's it's been an amazing ride and

1055
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: blessed to be around great people along the way, and

1056
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 1: you're included in that list.

1057
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: Man.

1058
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 4: We've had we've had a blast back in the day.

1059
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: But you know, just again, uh, thankful for a lot,

1060
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: a lot to look forward to and just at the

1061
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: end of the day, certainly blessed and very thankful for

1062
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: all the people that have helped me along the way.

1063
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 4: Thank you, bet.

1064
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: Okay, time for the mail bag, very very easy to

1065
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: get involved. My name at John Middlecoff on Instagram. Fire

1066
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 2: in to those direct messages. We will start with Matt

1067
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: question for the pod. Will the huge salary cap increase

1068
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: widen the gap between the top teams and the lesser teams?

1069
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: Teams like the Chiefs Niners can hold on to players

1070
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: they otherwise would have lost, while the lesser teams will

1071
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 2: end up having to pay a money for b players. Well,

1072
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: one thing part of having salary cap space a lot

1073
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: of it means you probably haven't extended a lot of

1074
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 2: guys in your own team. Right When you think about

1075
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 2: teams who are just not going to be as active

1076
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 2: in free agency on a yearly basis, they're extending their

1077
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 2: own players. Like part of the reason the Ravens have

1078
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: let guys leave for years and not been a huge,

1079
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 2: huge player in free agency extended their own guys. Think

1080
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: about the Patriots the two different iterations, the first championship

1081
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: dynasty and the second one. They had a core group

1082
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: of guys. Now that doesn't mean you can't buy a

1083
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 2: player here and there. But whenever I see you know,

1084
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 2: team X ton of cap space, okay, sign one or

1085
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 2: two players Christian Wilkins from the Dolphins. If I was

1086
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: the Texans or whatever the teams are with a lot

1087
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 2: of caps, the commanders, yeah, buy him. But I don't

1088
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 2: need to buy five guys, right, buy guys that fit

1089
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: my scheme if I'm gonna pay a lot of money.

1090
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: So I think there's a balance of teams that usually

1091
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 2: have a lot of cap space either have a young

1092
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: quarterback or a team that's not very good. There's not

1093
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: like it's not often that you find a team that

1094
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: just was in the Final four that's like, oh, they

1095
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 2: got the second most caps space in the league. Usually

1096
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 2: not how it works question for the POD. I'm a

1097
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 2: thirty year old guy that just went back to school

1098
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: to finish my degree. Now I've been offered a job

1099
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: in my field with a salary that's under sixty gram.

1100
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. For the past three years, I've

1101
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: been pouring my heart and soul into opening my own

1102
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: cocktail bar, and I estimate that I'll need around four

1103
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty k an investment to make it happen.

1104
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: I'm single, no kids, and I'm torn between taking a

1105
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 2: stable job for financial security. We're diving headfirst into entrepreneurship.

1106
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 2: On one hand, the job offers stability, a steady income, benefits,

1107
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 2: and sense of security. It's the safer option. On the

1108
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: other hand, starting my own business as a dream I've

1109
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: been nurturing for years. What are your thoughts? I think

1110
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 2: you've already answered your own question. You said for years,

1111
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: you've been pouring your heart and soul. Now, obviously you

1112
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 2: throw out a number of basically half a million dollars,

1113
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: even in these inflationary times. I don't know where you're

1114
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: gonna get the money. Obviously not gonna be easy. Uh,

1115
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 2: but what do you have to lose? Right, once you

1116
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 2: have children, once you have a wife. I assume you

1117
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 2: maybe don't have a home, so you don't have a mortgage.

1118
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 2: Now's the time to take a chance. What's the worst happens?

1119
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 2: It fails? It's always like, should I ask her out, Well,

1120
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 2: what's the worst thing? She's gonna say no? So, yeah,

1121
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 2: why not try it? You can always find a job.

1122
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 2: You'll always be able to find a job. You got

1123
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: a degree, you know, sounds like you're an ambitious person.

1124
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: I would take a chance now, just based on the

1125
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 2: number you threw out. It's clearly a tough and you

1126
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: know endeavor. I've never worked in the restaurant bar business.

1127
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 2: I have a lot of family and friends who have.

1128
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 2: It's well documented that it's pretty difficult. Most of them fail.

1129
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 2: So if you go in with the mindset of like

1130
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: this is gonna be really hard, there's no guarantees, right,

1131
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 2: instead of just you can't go into the mindset like

1132
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: one undred percent it's gonna be the number one cocktail

1133
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: bar in my in my city. But like, I'm gonna

1134
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 2: do everything humanly possible, give yourself, you know, thirty six

1135
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: months or twenty four months to make some stuff happen

1136
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 2: and see where it lands. Worst case scenario, a couple

1137
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 2: of years it didn't work out. In you're thirty two,

1138
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 2: modern medicine health, you got fifty years left of life.

1139
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 2: So if it's something you're gonna regret, try it now.

1140
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: To me, if the job offer had been a ton

1141
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: of money, I'd be like, try to do them both

1142
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: at the same time. If it was like several hundred

1143
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, use some of that money maybe, and try

1144
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: to utilize some of that to help you start. But

1145
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 2: this you'll be living basically paycheck to paycheck. Anyway, follow

1146
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: your Dreams mail back question. I get the trade and

1147
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: division held logic, But to me, if you're Minnesota and

1148
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: you think you can trade up up to top three

1149
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 2: to get a franchise quarterback, it's medical malpractice not to

1150
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 2: do so because you're worried about trading a position player

1151
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: in the division. Maybe the best position player in the league,

1152
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: no doubt. But per your jets bit, which I love

1153
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 2: on nailing every pick, but not the quarterback, to me,

1154
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: it's bananas to forego the opportunity that exists. I think

1155
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: he's talking about. Someone asked a question last week, why

1156
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: does Minnesota offer Jefferson to the Bears to trade up

1157
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 2: to one? Because if I'm the Bears, I hang up

1158
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: on you. I don't want Jefferson and Justin Fields. I

1159
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: would just rather have Caleb Williams because Justin Fields, I

1160
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: don't care. If I got Justin Jefferson, Deebo, Samuel, DK

1161
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 2: Metcalf and DJ Moore, We're not going far. He's not

1162
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: good enough. So the moment you get to the point

1163
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: where you're not good enough and you get this opportunity

1164
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: with the number one overall pick, who knows. I mean

1165
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: some people are saying Jade Daniels. I pick whoever you

1166
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: think is the best quarterback. That's the move. Justin Jefferson,

1167
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 2: who is an elite player, could argue when healthy, is

1168
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: the best wide receiver in the league. I'd hang up

1169
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 2: the phone. Yes, thanks for the offer. We love the

1170
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 2: guy as a player. It's less about the division. If

1171
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 2: I mentioned that, maybe if I said that, I don't

1172
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: even necessarily that's not the reason I would say. No,

1173
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 2: you have the chance to get a quarterback who can

1174
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: change your franchise. You always do that, Like, why would

1175
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: they be willing to trade Justin Jefferson, not just because

1176
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: of quote unquote quarterback, because a guy that could change

1177
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 2: your franchise. Why wouldn't you just do that? If you're

1178
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 2: the Bears, DJ Moore is not as good as Justin Jefferson,

1179
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: but you already got a stud wide receiver. Mail Bag,

1180
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: am I a natural born gentle manager. I'm joking, But

1181
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: the Panthers have had two first round picks that were

1182
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,959
Speaker 2: so obviously bad. That makes me wonder at gon Wu

1183
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 2: a khan Wu I think is the offensive lineman that

1184
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 2: they drafted in like the top ten first round left

1185
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: tackle or MENSI state is knock kneed which in scouting

1186
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: terms means your knees kind of hit. It's a scouting

1187
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: term when you're out of practice you see a guy's

1188
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: knockkneed or bow legged. It's how the old scouts stuck.

1189
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: How is that not a giant red flag when you're

1190
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: being asked to block some of the freakiest athletes on

1191
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 2: the field. Bryce Young the average size of a high

1192
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: school point guard. I just think the level of talent

1193
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: needed to overcome being that smallest too much. I agree.

1194
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: Even Kyler Murray, who I think is a one of

1195
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: one in terms of special in terms of athletic ability,

1196
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: has some limitations that other guys don't. For sure, Kyler

1197
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 2: Murray is a dramatically better talent than Bryce Shaw. It

1198
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: ain't even close. I watched Kyler Murray last year off

1199
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: an ACL tear up teams down the stretch. Not really

1200
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: my cup of tea, even though it sounds like he's

1201
00:59:55,520 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 2: matured a lot. I just small quarterbacks, like ideally, I

1202
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 2: just I like bigger, stronger guys. You know, doesn't mean

1203
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 2: they can't be good. But once you're like five to nine,

1204
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: like pretty small, six foot and a half six '

1205
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 2: one small. I remember being around Jimmy Garoppolo, like he

1206
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 2: looks small. You ever meet like Josh Allen or some

1207
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: of these guys, They're fucking huge. I'll never forget meeting

1208
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 2: Carson Palmer. I'm like, this guy looks like an NBA center.

1209
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: Am I being too simple? Here are these? I think

1210
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: here's part of the problem. I loved Bryce Young as

1211
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 2: a player because I respect how good he was at Alabama,

1212
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: But the moment you see him in pads, you got

1213
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if this can work, even if the

1214
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: team's really good around him. It's very, very hard to

1215
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 2: overcome that star players who are tiny are such outliers

1216
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: in pro sports. It is so hard to be Alan Iverson,

1217
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 2: jose Al Tuvey, just go just go around pro sports

1218
01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: in general. They usually are freak talents. You watch Bryce

1219
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 2: like average arm bad athlete. I can't. I'd be lying

1220
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 2: if I broke down the offensive lineman. Wasn't. One of

1221
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: the things with the offensive lineman that a lot of

1222
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 2: people thought he was a guard, not a tackle. So

1223
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 2: offensive lineman can be hard when you start doing the projections,

1224
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 2: especially really high with the eighteen game rumors with more

1225
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 2: international games mixed in. I believe the roster size should increase,

1226
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: but also another bye week should be added for the

1227
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: health of the players. What is your opinion, Greater Nation.

1228
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 2: I think you essentially get two buys throughout the season

1229
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 2: because you get a true buy and then you usually

1230
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 2: get that mini by which is the Thursday night game.

1231
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 2: So if you play a Thursday night game, usually your

1232
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 2: bye is you know, spread out throughout the season. So

1233
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 2: I heard the Kelsey brothers say this, they love Thursday

1234
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,479
Speaker 2: night games because once it's over, you get those extra

1235
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: three or four days, which is a game. Ideally, I

1236
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: wouldn't complain if there were two buys. I'm just I'm realistic. Like,

1237
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 2: do I think they're gonna do that? I don't. The

1238
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: eighteen games, like I said, is not only coming. It's

1239
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: because everyone makes more money. And this is a business

1240
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 2: where the goal is to make more money. This isn't

1241
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 2: just like that's everyone benefits, right. I saw Cavon Thibodeau

1242
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 2: the line the pass rusher from the Giants is on

1243
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: Twitter talking about like if they go to eighteen games,

1244
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 2: the gambling, It's like, bro, you guys share the revenue

1245
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: from them, You get a piece of the pie. You

1246
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 2: just happen to split it with fifty three guys a

1247
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 2: team for thirty two teams, and the rosters have expanded

1248
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: because the practice squads are much bigger. And let's face it,

1249
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: these guys from practice squads, the majority of them end

1250
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: up playing throughout the season because of injuries. Got a

1251
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 2: lot of riff raft here in my DMS. Big fan

1252
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: of the show, never missed an episode. Did you have

1253
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: a chance to read this article by ESPN bashing the

1254
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 2: NFL in what is your reaction? What benefit does ESPN

1255
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 2: get out of this as a stakeholder of the league.

1256
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 2: I have not read the article, but he linked it here.

1257
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: From Tragedy to Taylor Swift the cost of the NFL's invincibility. Uh.

1258
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: I think a lot of writers have this weird UH.

1259
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, animosity probably the wrong way to put it. Jealousy.

1260
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 2: They just they want it to fail. They do because

1261
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 2: they like roote against success in a weird way. And

1262
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 2: I refuse to read that, Like, I just feel like

1263
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 2: I will get dumber reading that article. Howard Brian wrote it,

1264
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 2: I don't even know who that is, but I don't

1265
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 2: I don't care. I think that some of these guys

1266
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: are holding on for dear life, Like, who's reading that article? Like,

1267
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 2: oh sweet points, Yeah, NFL is in trouble. So my

1268
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: opinion is, like I only am going to read so

1269
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 2: many articles throughout the day, probably not wasting many brain

1270
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 2: cells on that bad boy. Just wondering are you in

1271
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: favor of Andrew Berry's proposal to extend the trade deadline

1272
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 2: longer in the season. I think his proposal. His proposal

1273
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: has it moving from week eight to week ten for sure.

1274
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 2: Why would you here, here's a hot take. Why even

1275
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 2: have a trade deadline? Who cares? Why don't you have

1276
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: the entire season? Like once the regular season ends, can't

1277
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 2: make a trade? What if I want to make a

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01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: trade December first? Why do we have trade deadlines? Honestly,

1279
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 2: I don't even know the answer. I'm sure there was

1280
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 2: some thought behind it a long time ago, But in

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01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, do you need a trade deadline? Do

1282
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 2: you need a trade deadline? What if I want to

1283
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 2: trade for a player week eleven? What if the other

1284
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 2: team knows he ain't coming back, I get like a

1285
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 2: fourth round pick for him. I just canceled the trade

1286
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 2: headline to be honest with you, So yeah, I support

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01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 2: the move for sure. Some hockey NHL contracts are structured

1288
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 2: so that a no trade clause is a set number

1289
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: of teams the player can choose to not be traded to.

1290
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 2: Depending on the contract, some players might have only two selections,

1291
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:25,439
Speaker 2: while some have twenty, depending on what they negotiate. Upon

1292
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,919
Speaker 2: learning that they are on the trade block, they will

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01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,439
Speaker 2: use that number of selections to eliminate teams they don't

1294
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 2: want to go. Do Is this something that the NFL

1295
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 2: does as well? A baseball does that also? Right? Was

1296
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 2: it Chures or last year or Verlander has a bunch

1297
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: of teams in his contract? I think I think schers

1298
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: are ended up waiving it to go to the Rangers,

1299
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, or maybe it was Verlander, I forget.

1300
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 2: It's definitely prevalent in baseball, which the players in negotiations,

1301
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 2: the star ones have a lot of juice. I don't

1302
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 2: know much about hockey. I'm pretty sure with the NFL

1303
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 2: it is just a no trade clause or nothing like.

1304
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 2: There's no middle ground. And if you have the juice,

1305
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 2: which most players do not, right, just like most humans,

1306
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 2: even if you're a successful earner at your company, like

1307
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 2: they can still replace you don't have that type power,

1308
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 2: but we have seen quarterbacks for sure have no trade clauses.

1309
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 2: Derek Carr had one with the Raiders when he resigned

1310
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 2: with Josh McDaniels. Russell Wilson I'm pretty sure had one

1311
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 2: as well, So most are quarterback. I think Jalen Hurts

1312
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 2: has one. So a lot of quarterbacks get them, but

1313
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 2: most players don't get to go. You know, in my contract,

1314
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 2: I want to add these seven teams you cannot trade

1315
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 2: me to. I don't like the Cold So Buffalo, New England,

1316
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 2: New York Teams, Washington, Philly. I'm cool with the LA teams,

1317
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 2: Arizona Raiders, Cowboys. It just the NFL is still old

1318
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 2: school that way. Baby, it's a management league and it's not.

1319
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be opposed to that. I just don't think

1320
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen anytime soon. That'd be awesome if you

1321
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: just put like five teams on your list, if you

1322
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 2: could not trade me to be fun to make fun

1323
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 2: of them. Big fan from Ireland, wondering your thoughts on

1324
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 2: the Bengals this upcoming year. Burrow went healthy has had

1325
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 2: the most success first mahomes of any quarterback in the league.

1326
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: Josh Allen has had a lot of success. His teams

1327
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: have just not won, but he has not been the

1328
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 2: reason they've lost. But I hear what you're saying. Those

1329
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 2: two guys, Burrow and Josh play a lot better against

1330
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 2: Chiefs than than Lamar did. Even if t Higgins leaves,

1331
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 2: which he wouldn't just leave, you'd tag and trade him

1332
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 2: so you'd get something Chase the top five receiver in

1333
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: the league. Yes, their defense sucked last year, but I

1334
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 2: can't see it being this bad again. They absolutely boss

1335
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 2: the Niners around last season at Levi's. They did, and

1336
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 2: I still have a feeling they can beat anyone when

1337
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 2: they're on. Despite the Ravens being the perceived top team

1338
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 2: in the AFC North. Do you think the window for

1339
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl is gone? I don't. Now. Their defense

1340
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 2: was better a couple of years ago, clearly, But you

1341
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 2: hit on the right draft picks, like you can find safeties.

1342
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 2: You had a high end safety he left in free agency.

1343
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 2: You can find that. Part of what made you pretty

1344
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 2: special were the two wide receivers. So if you got

1345
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 2: him both next year, you're fine. If you do trade

1346
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 2: him and you get a high first round pick. When

1347
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 2: I say, HI, like a pick in the twenties built

1348
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 2: or even a pick in the early thirties. If it's

1349
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 2: like a high second round pick, late first round pick,

1350
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: you better hit on that pick. There'd be a lot

1351
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 2: of pressure on it. But talent on your team. When

1352
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 2: you got a quarterback who's that good, you always got

1353
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 2: a chance. So division's hard. Yeah, it's just it's difficult.

1354
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 2: But if Burro's healthy, you should be a top five

1355
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 2: to six team in the league. If he's not, you're screwed.

1356
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: Screwed in the sense you're still actually kind of watchable,

1357
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 2: but you got no chance of winning big. I mean,

1358
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 2: you might win some games, you know what I mean.

1359
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: That is an awesome point Andy made on the podcast,

1360
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 2: since losing time of possession in the first half of

1361
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, it actually left them with a full

1362
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 2: arsenal of unused plays they could leverage in the second

1363
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 2: half to put the Niners on their heels. Yeah, Andy

1364
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 2: was good. If you haven't heard that interview, that was

1365
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 2: on Tuesday's podcast. Their last question from Felix, what's your

1366
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 2: opinion on the Broncos releasing Russell with the huge dead

1367
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 2: cap number? Would you rather split the eighty five million

1368
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 2: and avoid the one year in twenty four and twenty five,

1369
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: or would you prefer to eat the whole eighty five?

1370
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 2: Realistically speaking, the Broncos wouldn't be a Super Bowl contender

1371
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 2: anyway in twenty four, so better get it over with

1372
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 2: as quickly as possible, right, What would you do from

1373
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 2: a strategic standpoint? Greetings from Germany? Like your content a lot.

1374
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 2: I would eat the money. I would just take it

1375
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 2: right on the chin. You know, when you're like a kid.

1376
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 2: And when I say kid, I mean it could be

1377
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 2: like in high school and you get in trouble and

1378
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 2: he's just like you better tell the truth, just take

1379
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 2: your medicine, and you're just like, I don't want to

1380
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,799
Speaker 2: tell the truth here, I'm gonna get in so much trouble.

1381
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 2: And then you do it and you realize that was

1382
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 2: the right thing to do. I think you just take it.

1383
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 2: I think you just let this number bend you over

1384
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 2: this year, screw you, right, eighty five million, which that

1385
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 2: number is never getting topped. I think the salary cap

1386
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 2: would have to go to like six seven hundred million

1387
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 2: dollars to ever see eighty five million dollars in dead

1388
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 2: cab space. I mean at all? Why do I want

1389
01:10:55,720 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 2: to split the two numbers because it Sean Payton year three.

1390
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 2: You're definitely going to be trying to win, and you're

1391
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 2: gonna still have this albatross of a number. I saw

1392
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 2: Matt Ryan and Aaron Rodgers two dead cap numbers did

1393
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 2: not equal the eighty five million dollars, So it is

1394
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 2: it's a lot to stomach. My guess is if I,

1395
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 2: just if I'm a betting man, they split it up,

1396
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 2: I would one hundred percent not do that. I would

1397
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 2: take it right now and draft a quarterback, because I

1398
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 2: forget I saw the numbers. Maybe it's like thirty eight

1399
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 2: this year, forty next year forty two or whatever it's

1400
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 2: it's it's some high thirty and low forty number in

1401
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 2: some order. I'm just taking it on the chin, I

1402
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 2: really am. I mean, which sucks, like no one wants

1403
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 2: to suck your two. But it's a double whammy. If

1404
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: you can trade up and draft a quarterback, it is

1405
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 2: one hundred percent the right move. Take the huge hit,

1406
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: use the quarterback to get them some experience. See if

1407
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 2: you can play, and you're probably gonna get a top

1408
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 2: pick next year, and you can kind of restock the cupboard.

1409
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 2: With with high draft picks. So I'd eat the money.

1410
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 2: I really would. I think they'll get a lot of

1411
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 2: shit if that's the route they take. And I think

1412
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: long term. I remember I think Warren Buffett or Charlie

1413
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 2: Munger said successful rich people always take short term losses

1414
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 2: for long term games, basically like they always can see

1415
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 2: the big picture. A lot of people and I think

1416
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 2: just financially kind of a poorer mindset and not acting

1417
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 2: like I haven't made this mistake as well. You're always

1418
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 2: thinking short term. And when you can think big picture,

1419
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 2: it allows you to make moves that in like three

1420
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 2: years you look back that take you to another level. Right,

1421
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: But when you're always living in the moment, like, oh

1422
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 2: we got it, we need that extra cap space to

1423
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 2: maybe sign a player like like you said, they're not

1424
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 2: winning anything this year, it ain't happening. Eat it all.

1425
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 2: Doubt they do it, but I would commend them if

1426
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 2: they do, because I think big picture it's one hundred

1427
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 2: percent the right move. The volume