WEBVTT - Selects: How the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World Work, Part I

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Chuck here on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>I am in charge of picking out the Saturday Select

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<v Speaker 2>this week, and this week we're doing a two parter,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're going to hear the first part today and

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<v Speaker 2>then next week Josh we'll have his selection, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the following week you can listen to part two. Or

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<v Speaker 2>you can just get creative and type with your little

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<v Speaker 2>fingies on the internet and get part two on your own.

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<v Speaker 1>If you just can't wait two weeks. But here is

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<v Speaker 1>part one from December twenty six, twenty seventeen. All the

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<v Speaker 1>seven Wonders of the Ancient World work. Part one.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles W Chuck Bryant there.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait wait, I know you thought I was going.

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<v Speaker 4>To say Jerry, but you're wrong because it's Nol today,

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<v Speaker 4>guest producer Nol, and that makes this stuff you should know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right?

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good? Noel?

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<v Speaker 2>Who is the uh the eighth Wonder of the ancient world?

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<v Speaker 3>He is and the modern world too.

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<v Speaker 1>He spans He spans space and time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, like the Colossus spanned the Harbor of Roads or

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<v Speaker 4>did it it didn't. We're gonna learn a lot, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so excited about this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, these two? You mean these two?

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<v Speaker 3>That's right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I hit upon it, and I'm like, this is a

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<v Speaker 4>two parter right here, and I can't believe we haven't

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<v Speaker 4>done this already. Like everybody knows about the Seven Wonders

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<v Speaker 4>of the Ancient World, but nobody knows about the Seven

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<v Speaker 4>Wonders of the Ancient World, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>What I mean, Nobody knows about them at all.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a perfect, perfect stuff you should know episode

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<v Speaker 4>if you ask me times two, Well, the sequel, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>So to get started, we probably would Let's just give

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<v Speaker 4>a brief overview of the Seven Wonders.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just want to like name them?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna do them chronologically too, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is that how they're listed for me?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, then first up we have the the the

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<v Speaker 2>Great Pyramid, the Great Pyramid of Giza.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and then after that, again chronologically, there's the Hanging

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<v Speaker 4>Gardens of Babylon and apparently there used to be it

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<v Speaker 4>used to be the walls of Babylon in addition to

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<v Speaker 4>the hanging Gardens of Babylon, but they were removed later, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and then what's next, chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>The Temple of Artemies at.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go the Temple of Artemis at Ephesus Ephesus

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<v Speaker 2>either one Artemis at Ephesus, nice man.

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<v Speaker 4>And then there's a statue of Zeus at Olympia, which

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<v Speaker 4>I have to admit I had not heard of before.

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<v Speaker 1>I had heard of that one. I think, I think

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of these.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt bad because maybe I had disregarded some of

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<v Speaker 2>this and wonders of the ancient world because a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of these were news to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, okay, so that one was for me. The

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<v Speaker 4>Mausoleum at Halli Carnassis was also new for me too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Colossus of Rhodes old hat.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure everybody knows that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, yeah, Like, I've got Colossus of Roads underwear

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<v Speaker 2>on right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you wear you got that whole style where

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<v Speaker 4>you wear the sage and you show your underwear too,

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<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then finally the Lighthouse of Alexandria m h which

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<v Speaker 2>is I think I had heard of that one. But

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<v Speaker 2>when you put these all together, it is not. It

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<v Speaker 2>is no small list.

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<v Speaker 4>No, And so this list, like you may wonder who

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<v Speaker 4>put this list together, you know, maybe Jacques Cousteau, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>Bertrand Russell, who knows. It's actually way way way older

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<v Speaker 4>than that. This list goes back to the time of

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<v Speaker 4>ancient Greece, actually, and they're not entirely certain who wrote

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<v Speaker 4>the first one, but there were several people who kind

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<v Speaker 4>of took the list and added to it or subtracted

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<v Speaker 4>to it. And there's a bunch of candidates for who

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<v Speaker 4>had written the list, But the one I saw that's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty roundly considered probably the first one to have written

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<v Speaker 4>a list is Deodorus Sicilis, or Diodorus of Sicily. And

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<v Speaker 4>the reason that these lists were made was because at

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<v Speaker 4>the time Greece had done a pretty good job of

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<v Speaker 4>subjugating a lot of the areas around it, like Turkey, Persia, Babylon,

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<v Speaker 4>and these places were now safe for Greeks to go visit.

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<v Speaker 4>And because the Greeks, who were wealthy and had a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of leisure time, they actually became some of the

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<v Speaker 4>world's first tourists, international tourists, And that was basically the

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<v Speaker 4>point of the list of the Seven Wonders of the

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<v Speaker 4>ancient world was hey, you should go visit these things,

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<v Speaker 4>go to these places and see these things, and so

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<v Speaker 4>some people would go do I think it was probably

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<v Speaker 4>a point of pride to be able to say I've

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<v Speaker 4>seen all seven what they called theamatta.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, theamata translates as things to be seen, or if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to get even more modern, it's literally like

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<v Speaker 2>here are your mussies if you're going on vacation.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of like the first travel website.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of, but it was just a list.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it wasn't on the web yet. That

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<v Speaker 2>would take a couple hundred years.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, at least a couple hundred because these guys they

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<v Speaker 4>did live in like the third, fourth, fifth centuries BCE, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so over time this list, like I said it was,

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<v Speaker 4>it started out I think with the Great Pyramid has

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<v Speaker 4>always been on there, sure, hanging gardens have always been

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<v Speaker 4>on there, Temple of Artemis, stato Zeus, the Mausoleum, the

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<v Speaker 4>classes of roads, and then I think the lighthouse at

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<v Speaker 4>Alexandria may not have been on and it was the

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<v Speaker 4>wall of the Walls of Babylon, and they said we've

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<v Speaker 4>already got Babylon covered, you guys. This lighthouse is to

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<v Speaker 4>be seen, so it was eventually compiled and that list.

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<v Speaker 4>So the list itself is pretty ancient too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In Babylon, if they had one motto, it was come

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<v Speaker 2>for the gardens, stay for the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So out of all of those, the the only ones

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<v Speaker 4>that are still around actually is the Great Pyramid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there are bits of some of these in

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<v Speaker 2>various museums, most notably the British Museum.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And there are some ruins on the site still.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, here and there, some ruins underwater here and there.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to have you been to a lot of ruins?

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<v Speaker 3>I've been to Pompeii? You me and I went. It

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of the fulfillment of a lifelong dream.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, have you been to Pompeii? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>No, what ruins have you been to?

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<v Speaker 2>Just your your your garden variety ruins like in Rome,

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, man, the call to see them, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 4>was something to be seen.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's part of me. Like when I

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<v Speaker 2>go to see ruins, it's it's really cool because I

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<v Speaker 2>try and take myself back to that time. But then

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<v Speaker 2>when I stand back and look at it and it's

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<v Speaker 2>current surroundings, sometimes it get a little.

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<v Speaker 4>Sad because there's a lot of people like chewing gum

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<v Speaker 4>and on their phone and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah man, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially well we'll talk about the pyramids, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>you have you seen the famous pizza hut pictures?

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<v Speaker 3>No, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know that the pyramids.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh is that a photoshopped No, it's not photoshopped. The

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<v Speaker 2>Pyramids back right up or I guess front, right up

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<v Speaker 2>to Cairo, So you always see the image looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the Pyramids from Cairo. If you see the image looking

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<v Speaker 2>the other way, there's like a city right button up against.

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<v Speaker 4>It, right, and an ancient Egyptian in the foreground turns

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<v Speaker 4>of the camera, the single tear coming down in his eye,

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<v Speaker 4>his cheek, but.

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<v Speaker 1>He was really Italian. Right, No, there's there there's a

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<v Speaker 1>literally a pizza hut KFC.

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<v Speaker 5>Which you could do worse facing it could be facing

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<v Speaker 5>the Great Pyramids of Egypt and the Sphinx, and and

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<v Speaker 5>one of the windows.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the pizza hut there's the Pizza Hut logo.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you stand inside that pizza hut you can

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<v Speaker 2>take a photograph of that Pizza Hut cap and logo

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<v Speaker 2>kind of sitting on top of the pyramid, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there are all kinds of photos now of

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<v Speaker 2>Pizza Hut, and it's just it's sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not it speaks of the times, you know, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what I talked about being a little sad.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a pizza hut, there's a friggin Kentucky Fried Chicken

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<v Speaker 2>yards from the Great Pyramids.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know how I feel about that.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess, well, I think it's pretty clear how you

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<v Speaker 4>feel about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't like it, I don't know, But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you can't say, like, no, what are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>have a restaurant here? You can't do anything. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it is what it is, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it's not like you're gonna live without

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<v Speaker 4>KFC for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. I would challenge some KFC if I was

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<v Speaker 1>over there too.

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<v Speaker 4>The very famous one by the Pyramids.

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<v Speaker 3>I know what you mean. Though, Sure, you know it

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of a little weird.

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<v Speaker 4>But at the same time, you're like, wow, you know

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<v Speaker 4>this thing was built by slaves who died working, So

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<v Speaker 4>maybe the KFC is actually preferable in some ways, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And maybe that's what I should feel sad about.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, just feel sad about both.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So let's go to the Great Pyramids of Giza,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's actually if you go, oh, we're gonna really

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<v Speaker 4>wear out the way Back machine.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh. Yeah, this gassed it up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's ready, and I got a new air fresher, and

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<v Speaker 3>you like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not big on the Pineapple, but it's all right,

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<v Speaker 1>hill the old Pineapple.

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<v Speaker 4>We can swap it out for the second part. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>So we're gonna get in the way Back machine and

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<v Speaker 4>if you go, we're actually just going to go back

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of days because we're going in modern times.

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<v Speaker 4>But if we're gonna look at the Great Pyramid at Giza,

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<v Speaker 4>there's actually just one of them that's on the list

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<v Speaker 4>of the seven Wonders of the Ancient World. It's one

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<v Speaker 4>particular one, the Pyramid of Kufu or Chaops is what

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<v Speaker 4>the Greeks call them, and his is the biggest pyramid

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<v Speaker 4>of them all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there are more than more than or

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<v Speaker 2>exactly eighty pyramids scattered across Egypt, various sizes, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>imagine they're all pretty great to go look at. But

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<v Speaker 2>the big daddy of them all, like you said, is

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<v Speaker 2>Cufu k h U f U, and it is It

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<v Speaker 2>is the one you know that you can get with

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<v Speaker 2>a pizza hut cap on top.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the main dude there with the three pyramids, with

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<v Speaker 2>the sphinx standing by watching over Kentucky Fried Chicken to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure nobody robs it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it actually would work really well for that pizza

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<v Speaker 4>hut cap because it's the one of the three. You

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<v Speaker 4>always see the three together. The other two are the

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<v Speaker 4>Pyramid of men Kuar and the other one is Pyramid

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<v Speaker 4>of Coffrey, and they're smaller, but if you'll notice those

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<v Speaker 4>two have points. Yeah, the biggest one, the Pyramid of Cufu,

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<v Speaker 4>has a flat top. Like it just knew that that

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<v Speaker 4>pizza hut was coming in four thousand years, right. But

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<v Speaker 4>so we know so little about this pyramid that they're

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<v Speaker 4>not entirely certain if this is true or not. But

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<v Speaker 4>there's a pretty widespread theory that that pyramid was actually unfinished.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really, mm hmm. They couldn't bring those final stones. Huh.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe everybody involved died or there was a change in

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<v Speaker 4>dynasty or something. But they think and there's other evidence

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<v Speaker 4>we'll talk about, but it seems like it might have

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<v Speaker 4>been unfinished.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't Napoleon shoot off the nose of the sphinx? Or

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<v Speaker 1>is that a Is that an old wives tale? No?

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<v Speaker 3>That was isis?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, probably so, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the things that's so great about this pyramid

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<v Speaker 4>is just how massive it is, right, Yes, it's it's tall.

0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:15.280
<v Speaker 3>It's very tall.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like four hundred and eighty feet tall, which that's

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<v Speaker 4>that's a substantial height if you ask me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean for a long time it was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the tallest or the tallest building in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>which is amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, until the fourteenth century when Lincoln Cathedral in England

0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:35.960
<v Speaker 4>finally topped it. So for almost for about thirty four

0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.360
<v Speaker 4>hundred years it stood as the tallest structure, the man made,

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<v Speaker 4>human made structure in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to believe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 4>And then its side, each side at the base is

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<v Speaker 4>about seven hundred and fifty five feet long. They're just massive,

0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:52.439
<v Speaker 4>massive structures.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know how I was talking about the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that it's uh, it just butted right, up against Cairo

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<v Speaker 2>at least is not surrounding, like the city is not

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<v Speaker 2>just on all sides. So if you do look at

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<v Speaker 2>it from the city, it's on the Giza Plateau and

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<v Speaker 2>that is still you know, I'm not sure how far

0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.480
<v Speaker 2>it goes back, but you know, a nice wide aerial shots.

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<v Speaker 2>Looks like most of that plateau is pretty preserved, right

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<v Speaker 2>at least, So.

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<v Speaker 3>This the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>The pyramid was built sometime during the reign of King Kufu,

0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:32.559
<v Speaker 4>appropriately enough, and the king reign from I think twenty

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<v Speaker 4>five eighty nine to twenty five sixty six, So it's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty old pyramid, and it's it's you know, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>made of just a ton of blocks cut blocks, right.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the things like if you go on some sites,

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<v Speaker 4>you'll find people who just kind of poopoo the pyramids,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's just pile piles of stone. Oh, clearly, But

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<v Speaker 4>it's actually pretty clever engineering, especially considering how long ago

0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.640
<v Speaker 4>it was built. It's not just a pilot stone. There's

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of corridors and shafts and rooms, and the

0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.040
<v Speaker 4>engineers had to take into account where to place these

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<v Speaker 4>things so that the structure didn't collapse in on itself

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<v Speaker 4>as it aged. So it is a pretty big feed

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<v Speaker 4>of engineering just in addition to its size, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean there are more than two million pile

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<v Speaker 1>of stones. Who says that.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people online?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, more than two million limestone and granite blocks, the

0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.480
<v Speaker 2>weight of about six and a half million tons.

0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:32.640
<v Speaker 1>And these things are.

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<v Speaker 2>Engineered such that they it's about a fifty one degree

0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:42.040
<v Speaker 2>slope on each side, and each side faces exactly to

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<v Speaker 2>the four cardinal directions.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's no accident. It's not like it just happened

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<v Speaker 2>to land that way. It was all done very much

0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:54.320
<v Speaker 2>on purpose. These rocks fit together, the blocks really really tightly,

0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.360
<v Speaker 2>less than a fiftieth of an inch separating them. So

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<v Speaker 2>that right there is why these things are still standing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, right.

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<v Speaker 4>And so when you look at the pyramid, it's actually

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<v Speaker 4>so I think I said four hundred and eighty feet.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's four hundred and fifty five feet at

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<v Speaker 4>its height. Originally it was four hundred and eighty feet

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<v Speaker 4>and it was also encased in limestone.

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<v Speaker 1>Well did it originally have the point then?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think so, because I think they would. I

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<v Speaker 4>think there's some other stuff that suggests that it was

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<v Speaker 4>unfinished too. I don't know if it ever had the point.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if anybody knows for certain, but it

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<v Speaker 4>seems like it hadn't been put on yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Like an inscription at the top that's just not quite done.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's one of the things.

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<v Speaker 4>That's one of the reasons why they think that it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't done, because it's lacking inscriptions that other pyramids have,

0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:45.480
<v Speaker 4>like in ass Oh, it doesn't have any no more

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<v Speaker 4>like we dedicate this to the Sun god raw and

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<v Speaker 4>the name of King Kufu.

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<v Speaker 3>And blah blah blah, right, yeah, the usual.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's lacking any kind of inscriptions. The king's burial chamber,

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<v Speaker 4>the actual sarcophagus, which is just this huge, massive stone

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<v Speaker 4>that they actually built the chamber around. It's not like

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<v Speaker 4>they built the room and then imported this thing. It's

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<v Speaker 4>bigger than any entrance to the room. But it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of rough, it's got some cut marks still showing,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was obviously not finished. And then the other

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<v Speaker 4>reason why they think that it wasn't ever finished, Chuck,

0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:25.800
<v Speaker 4>was that there's no evidence that anyone ever found any

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<v Speaker 4>treasure loot bodies anything. Yeah, it's like it's this dead,

0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:36.520
<v Speaker 4>empty place that has never been used. Ironically too and

0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:40.840
<v Speaker 4>tomb dead people into it was just never finished either.

0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:44.200
<v Speaker 4>So that's one theory that it was finished and never used.

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<v Speaker 4>Another one is that it actually was looted, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was looted so thoroughly that there's just not even evidence

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<v Speaker 4>of it being looted.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa.

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<v Speaker 3>And then that yeah, it's kind of impressive.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the last one is that it is finished

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<v Speaker 4>and that all of these shafts and like walkways and

0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.840
<v Speaker 4>crawl spaces that we found are actually meant to distract

0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:12.359
<v Speaker 4>you from the real places where the tombs are that

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<v Speaker 4>we've just not found yet.

0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Couldn't they find those by now?

0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:19.359
<v Speaker 4>Though not necessarily. They're still finding like secret rooms and

0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:22.399
<v Speaker 4>passages that are hidden from view. They're just starting to

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<v Speaker 4>now apply the technology to seeing through stone.

0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:30.399
<v Speaker 2>Literally, just get up the X ray camera right and

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<v Speaker 2>just stand at pizza hut, zoom in right and just

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<v Speaker 2>see what's in that thing.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't even need that you can send off for

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<v Speaker 4>some of those X ray specs from a comic book exactly.

0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:42.320
<v Speaker 4>I don't know why no one else has thought of

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<v Speaker 4>this yet.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a question. Then they said it's originally

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<v Speaker 1>covered in limestone in that casing. Does that mean that

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<v Speaker 1>originally it was not in a step pattern and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just smooth on the outside. Yes, Well, how in

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<v Speaker 1>the world did they get up there? Would they just

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<v Speaker 1>slide back down?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the answer that is obvious. It was aliens that

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<v Speaker 4>helped them. That's right, That's that's it. That's the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>I have no idea, Chuck, that's a really good question

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<v Speaker 4>to tell you the truth. Maybe they maybe there's a

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<v Speaker 4>passageway inside.

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<v Speaker 1>Right that they come out the top, you know, come out.

0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.280
<v Speaker 4>The top, pull the limestone up into place, and then

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<v Speaker 4>slide down it and start the process over again.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you want to see kind of probably what

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<v Speaker 4>it looked like, just go look at the Iron Maiden

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<v Speaker 4>Power Slave album cover.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's kind of like smoothly covered.

0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.280
<v Speaker 4>It's not stepped, really, I mean, there's steps, but they're

0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:36.639
<v Speaker 4>they're meant to be like a staircase.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not steps on the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that makes sense. So yeah, So in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourteenth century, there was an earthquake, and as you'll see,

0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:46.320
<v Speaker 1>that becomes a pattern here with a lot of these

0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.720
<v Speaker 1>ancient wonders that would become ruins because of earthquakes.

0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, most of these in the Middle East. It's

0:18:54.160 --> 0:19:02.040
<v Speaker 2>a volatile area tectonically speaking, so you know, over the

0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:06.240
<v Speaker 2>course of thousands of years, things are gonna tumble over time,

0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:06.480
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it is what happened in this case.

0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:12.600
<v Speaker 4>It's basically earthquakes, earthquake, earthquake, earthquake, over and over again.

0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:14.760
<v Speaker 3>It's the great leveler of monuments, right.

0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Kufu Pyramids stood. It was stood that earthquake

0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.480
<v Speaker 2>because it's just more than a pile of rocks. It

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<v Speaker 2>is so big and so grand and so heavy, I guess,

0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:27.720
<v Speaker 2>and probably a little luck came involved as well.

0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but it was also really good engineering too, for sure.

0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.800
<v Speaker 4>But the earthquake did get it in that it did

0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.280
<v Speaker 4>level Cairo, and they went out to the pyramid and

0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.800
<v Speaker 4>took the limestone off of it and used it to

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<v Speaker 4>rebuild Cairo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And that's another common refrain of notices.

0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.560
<v Speaker 2>A lot of these would be toppled, and then people

0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:48.760
<v Speaker 2>would come in and say, hey, let's use this stuff

0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:52.639
<v Speaker 2>for like actual for the city, yeah, instead of just

0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:53.800
<v Speaker 2>some monument to a ruler.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep. And if you are you ever going to go

0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:58.000
<v Speaker 3>see the pyramids.

0:19:59.600 --> 0:19:59.879
<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was sort of on the old bucket list until

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the pizza hut thing.

0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:03.600
<v Speaker 1>To day.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, that's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>And I read an article where someone was like, don't

0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.639
<v Speaker 2>do it, just don't go really yeah, but I mean

0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:12.600
<v Speaker 2>that's just one person's opinion. We also had people that

0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:16.000
<v Speaker 2>said the northern lights aren't that impressive.

0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:18.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that one person.

0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we got shouted down for that. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>It still happens from time to time.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you do go, though, chuck the way that

0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.240
<v Speaker 4>you go into the pyramid, as far as you can,

0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.600
<v Speaker 4>it's actually an No one's figured out how to go

0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:36.000
<v Speaker 4>in the way that it was intended. It's that entrance

0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:38.760
<v Speaker 4>is lost to history as far as I know. The

0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:42.480
<v Speaker 4>entrance that you use is actually a carved tunnel through

0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.920
<v Speaker 4>the pyramid from the ninth century from this guy named

0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:51.640
<v Speaker 4>Abdullah al Maman who oversaw a looting expedition, and he's

0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:53.119
<v Speaker 4>one of the reasons why they think that it was

0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:55.800
<v Speaker 4>unused because even back in the ninth century, this guy

0:20:56.359 --> 0:21:00.400
<v Speaker 4>couldn't find anything in the sealed pyramid interesting.

0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:02.679
<v Speaker 1>And you gain access to that through the bathroom of

0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:03.280
<v Speaker 1>pizza hut.

0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:07.200
<v Speaker 4>That's right with your X ray specs. Wow, you want

0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:07.840
<v Speaker 4>to take a break.

0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it now.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, we're back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we are.

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<v Speaker 2>No more poopoo ing of modern things next to old things.

0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:43.200
<v Speaker 2>I sound like an old man crabbing, grabbing along.

0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:46.000
<v Speaker 3>That's all right, man uh.

0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:48.440
<v Speaker 2>And this next one is interesting, the hanging Gardens of Babylon,

0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 2>because this is one that that may not have even existed.

0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:57.160
<v Speaker 2>These are this is the we're going chronologically, like you said,

0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:00.680
<v Speaker 2>so the second oldest if it was re built in

0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:05.600
<v Speaker 2>about the sixth century. And obviously these don't exist anymore

0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.840
<v Speaker 2>in any shape or form. But the deal is that

0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:13.960
<v Speaker 2>these this was in like modern day Iraq, and they

0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:18.560
<v Speaker 2>were gardens that it was really about the building. It's

0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:21.919
<v Speaker 2>kind of like the first big botanical garden, right. It

0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:26.560
<v Speaker 2>wasn't just things hanging from the sky. It was plants

0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:29.520
<v Speaker 2>and trees and everything planted in this grand, big building

0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:31.200
<v Speaker 2>that had water flowing through it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in the desert.

0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So if it was in Babylon, it would have been

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<v Speaker 4>about ninety miles or ninety kilometers. I can't remember which

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<v Speaker 4>one Outside of Baghdad modern day Baghdad, right, And if

0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:47.960
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't Babylon, they think that maybe King Nebukanezer built

0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.760
<v Speaker 4>the gardens. This is according to legend at least sure,

0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:54.639
<v Speaker 4>he built the gardens for his wife Ametis, who was

0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 4>from the north where it's much more fertile and green.

0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:01.879
<v Speaker 4>And apparently Ametus missed her homeland, so the king built

0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:06.920
<v Speaker 4>her the hanging gardens. And again this is in the desert,

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:11.919
<v Speaker 4>so to. And Babylon was a magnificent place in and

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 4>of itself, again, like their walls were once on this

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<v Speaker 4>list of seven Wonders to go see, right, But supposedly

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:26.160
<v Speaker 4>it was just this enormous building, tiered with huge walkways. Yeah,

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 4>and they planted it with dirt and trees. And there

0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:34.600
<v Speaker 4>was a quote that was said it was thickly planted

0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:37.639
<v Speaker 4>with trees of every kind that, by their great size

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.560
<v Speaker 4>or charm, could give pleasure to the beholder. That was

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<v Speaker 4>Deodorus who said that, and he was writing like a

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<v Speaker 4>while after they would have been built. But the idea

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:51.800
<v Speaker 4>that you could just walk down treeline avenues in this

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:53.720
<v Speaker 4>building in the desert's pretty neat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I get the sense that in today's terms,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be like a sort of a nice office park.

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<v Speaker 1>I gets.

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<v Speaker 3>So now we just take them for granted.

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 1>But back then it was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't have these structures with all these plants in

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:10.080
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the desert like this. It was along

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 2>the Euphrates River most likely, and we're talking about I mean,

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:16.959
<v Speaker 2>it looks any of the pictures that you've seen, it

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 2>really looks like it was something else. About seventy five

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:23.880
<v Speaker 2>feet tall, like you said, tiered, this brick structure with

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 2>plants and waterfalls coming off of it, and twenty two

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:33.879
<v Speaker 2>foot thick walls four hundred feet wide, and all manner

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 2>of flora all over the place, and irrigated from that

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Euphrates River.

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<v Speaker 4>Right if if again it wasn't Babylon. But there's a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of reasons why that whole thing is why it

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.720
<v Speaker 4>is question right. So for on the one hand, there's

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:50.680
<v Speaker 4>no evidence of it. No one said this is where

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 4>it was, right, And other people say, well, of course

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.399
<v Speaker 4>you can't say that these were plants, these were gardens.

0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 4>There's not going to be any trace of it left.

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:01.160
<v Speaker 4>Maybe you know, we've the building and we don't even

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 4>realize it. The reason why they think it might not

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 4>have actually existed in Babylon is because, first of all,

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:12.960
<v Speaker 4>King nebukin Ezer love to boast about all of the

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 4>stuff he did. He left inscriptions in cuneiform basically everywhere.

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 4>He's like, you know, let out like a thirty second belch. Today,

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 4>King Nebucanezer, he would have stuff like this inscribed.

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.119
<v Speaker 1>Right. Yeah, I can't think of anyone today who I

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 1>could like in that too, but yes.

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 4>Right, exactly like he was one of a kind. No

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 4>ruler ever has for any resemblance to him. But he'd

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 4>never mentioned the gardens of Babylon and any cuneiform tablet

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 4>that's ever been discovered.

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he did not tout it in writing, which is

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 2>very very unusual.

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:54.360
<v Speaker 4>And then there's another guy, Herod Herodotus. He was an

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 4>historian from Greece and he wrote a basically a monograp

0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:05.200
<v Speaker 4>on Babylon one hundred years after Nebukanezer, and he didn't

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:09.159
<v Speaker 4>mention the hanging gardens at all. No gardens, no legend

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 4>of a garden, no talk of a garden, no garden.

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:14.760
<v Speaker 4>I visited nothing about gardens. Yeah, and the idea that

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 4>he would have passed over one of the great wonders

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 4>of the ancient world. When he's writing about the town

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:25.120
<v Speaker 4>that contains it, it's pretty questionable. So some people say, well,

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 4>maybe it wasn't in Babylon. Maybe it was in another

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:28.639
<v Speaker 4>place in Assyria.

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe the Assyrian queen built it. Maybe the ruler

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 2>of Nineveh, whose name and these names I just love

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 2>ticking through all these names, as if nebucad Nezar wasn't

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 2>good enough, Senakaib it's great, the ruler of Nineveh may

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 2>have built them. I had always thought these were real,

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 2>But I tend to think that maybe nebuchad Nesser didn't

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 2>have anything to do with it, because it doesn't You're right.

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:57.919
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it makes any sense that it was

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<v Speaker 2>not mentioned in any of these accounts, right, because they

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 2>just and it wasn't just Nebukinzer all all this stuff

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 2>like keeping records.

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>It was all very new.

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.400
<v Speaker 2>It was like the hot thing to do, you know, sure, right,

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 2>and so they wouldn't just say, oh, by the way,

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:16.400
<v Speaker 2>we failed to mention we built this what would eventually

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 2>be a wonder of the world, but we just didn't

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 2>think it was important enough to write down.

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and this is from Nebukinezer, who used to leave

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 4>like inscriptions in the blocks of buildings saying built by Nebukinzer,

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 4>ruler of Babylon from sea to sea.

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Even if he didn't build it, he would.

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 3>Have met right exactly, he would have mentioned it.

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 4>So if if it was in NINEVA, it would have

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 4>been close to present day Mosl in northern Iraq, right right.

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 4>And if it was in NINEV, then we've actually already

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 4>found the gardens of Babylon because they they discovered a

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 4>structure that was clearly in something similar to what the

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:59.159
<v Speaker 4>Gardens of Babylon have described. It was a structure that

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 4>had irrigation brought to it, that used water screws to

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 4>pump water remember from our Archimedes death ray episode, uh huh,

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 4>to pump it upward to this thing. So we found

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 4>a garden, basically a botanical garden structure in NINEV. So

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 4>if it is there, we now know where the hanging

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 4>gardens were.

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that is the idea is that they took

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.880
<v Speaker 2>this water up them from the Euphrates into these big

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 2>holding tanks, these big cisterns essentially on top and then

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 2>it would use a very clever system of gravity.

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>To then feed down and irrigate all the.

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Different areas as it flowed downward.

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Right, really something to see.

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 4>I can't imagine what it must have been like like,

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 4>especially they rely can't.

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>You know. I'm kind of disappointed now I have to

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>admit why we because it doesn't sound like it was

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 1>there or maybe even real.

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but it could have been. In NINEV I think

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 4>it was real. I think it was a nineveh Yeah,

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 4>because if you if you look at the if you

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 4>look at some I think it was Diodorus. Diodorus's writing

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 4>from Sicily, the guy from Sicily. Yeah, he says that

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 4>there were hanging gardens, but they were built by Assyrian king,

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 4>So I'm pretty sure that's that's it, all right, So

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 4>they were real, Chuck, and we know where they are. Okay,

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 4>and then you want to do one more for this episode.

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's take a break and we'll come back and

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 2>finish up with the Temple of Artemis at Ephesus after this.

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Chuck, and we're back. Yes, this one, this might

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 4>be my favor. Do you have a favorite one yet?

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 2>My favorite one will be in the next episode. Oh okay, cool,

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 2>how's that for a tease.

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 3>That's a great tease.

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 1>This one's pretty good though, because this took by all accounts,

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>over one hundred and twenty years to build in just

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>one night to go bye bye, yeah, which is how

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>it goes sometimes.

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 4>Yep, especially when there's someone with pyromania involved.

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 4>So ephesusesis Ephesis, That's what I'm going with.

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>How about you, Artemis at Ephesis. I think that sounds better.

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I think that might be it.

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<v Speaker 4>So Ephesis is It's actually a pretty well known city

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 4>of the ancient world, and I think it's still around

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 4>in some way, shape or form. But it was It

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 4>used to be a fabulously wealthy port city in what's

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:53.479
<v Speaker 4>today Turkey, but it was under the control basically of Greece. Yea,

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 4>from what I understand, it was allowed to remain an

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 4>independent city state, but it was still like that was

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 4>at the pleasure of Greece and then later Rome. But

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 4>they managed to be an important place of finance and

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 4>law too. I think that's where a lot of the

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 4>courts were was in Ephesis. But it was also well

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 4>known for all of its magic cults. Right, Yes, that's

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 4>where the Magician's mansion was located.

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Back in the ancient world.

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so when they call it the city of magic,

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>they mean that literally.

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Right, not magic city.

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 4>But it had like a quarter of a million residents

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 4>at its peaker at the time when the Temple of

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 4>Artemis was in full swing, and it was originally built

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 4>this temple, this massive, huge temple back in five point

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 4>fifty BCE by a guy named King Croesus. They think

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 4>that that might be old King Cole.

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Did you know that?

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh really, m h huh, that's what I've always heard.

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:55.719
<v Speaker 1>So King Crosis of Lydia.

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 2>And this one, if you look it up under the

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 2>images it is it looks like you're you're kind of

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 2>classic Greek temple. It's rectangular that it measures about three

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 2>fifty by one eighty feet.

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>And the thing about this one that is really jumped

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>out at me were the columns. And there are more

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.479
<v Speaker 1>than one hundred columns and their marble and it's not

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>just like everything had columns. So that's that's all fine,

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and well, these.

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 3>Are enough with the columns.

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 2>These are the ionic architectural style columns. But these were

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 2>like if you look at it, there like the two

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 2>rows of columns on the front. To me, like the

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 2>fact that they doubled them up and offset them is

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 2>just really kind of striking looking.

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 3>It is. It's gorgeous.

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 4>And if you just the size of this thing too,

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 4>three hundred and fifty feet in length right or in depth,

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 4>that's like one in more than one football field American

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 4>football field. Which is this is a pretty good sized temple. Yeah,

0:32:57.520 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 4>it's not as massive as you might think in this

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 4>but it's still pretty big.

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, you gotta you have to think all

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 2>of this in ancient standards. Sure, like today you look

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 2>at a building in size of a football field and

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 2>it's not that big of a deal, but it's still large.

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>But by those standards back then, it was enormous.

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Right, which I'm I'm happy with saying it's massive.

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, put on your ancient hats, folks.

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:25.959
<v Speaker 4>Plus also plus also just the the ornate detail that

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 4>was carved into the structure in every single spot, it

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 4>was pretty neat. And then if you looked at the

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 4>pediment of the temple, the base, there was a door

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 4>and two windows. I believe the windows are on either

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 4>side of the door. That was not for Upion, that

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 4>was for Artemis to enter and leave her temple at

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 4>her whim.

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 4>So Artemis herself, this is this is one of the

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 4>reasons why this is my favorite. Artemis herself was the

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 4>Greek precursor to the Roman Diana. Okay, she was the

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 4>goddess of fertility, of the hunt and I believed the

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 4>moon too, right, all right, And she was Apollo's twin sister.

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 4>She was the daughter of Zeus and Leto, so she

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 4>was a pretty important deity. But she was kind of

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:14.760
<v Speaker 4>cobbled together at the Temple of Artemis with an already

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 4>much much much older deity for the area. And her

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 4>name was Sibyl, and Sibyl was based on an ancient

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:31.439
<v Speaker 4>fertility goddess from nine thousand years ago. So they took

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 4>Sybil and they took Artemis, who basically represented the same

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 4>thing but to two different cultures, and they put it

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 4>together at this Temple of Artemis at Ephesis.

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, we're talking about a statue. I don't

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>think we said that.

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, no, we didn't.

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>We weren't talking about some kind of weird black voodoo,

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 1>black magic.

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:49.959
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 2>It's a statue built from gold, silver, ebony, and some

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 2>other stuff. They had laying around. Pull tabs from tabcans.

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Sure, it was like a found object thing basically.

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 1>But this what's amazing about this one.

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.319
<v Speaker 2>You can actually look up the statue even though these

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:10.360
<v Speaker 2>are just I don't know.

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>If whether it were pictures of it or is this

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>just called from I.

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 4>Don't know, man, I'm not sure if it was just

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 4>from writings or if they do have it somewhere.

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:18.919
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 2>The cool thing is is the statue has this row

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 2>of bulbs hanging from her body and if you look

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 2>at it looks like she's wearing a.

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Tunic made of avocados.

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 4>Or like water balloons. Sure, but what they are is

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 4>up for debate. Some people say, well, they're obviously breasts,

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 4>she's a fertility goddess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, make a little it does.

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<v Speaker 4>It would make even more sense if it weren't for

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that Sybil's cult was known to castraight bulls

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<v Speaker 4>as sacrifice, so they think they were probably bull testicles, right,

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 4>and the actually the Sybil cult high priests would castrate

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 4>them so they could be more like Sybil I e.

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<v Speaker 4>Without testicles. Remember our castration episode do I Boy, We've

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<v Speaker 4>talked about a lot of stuff, Chuck, we have. So

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<v Speaker 4>you've got this amazing wonderful, super cool statue in an

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<v Speaker 4>already amazing temple. And it's not just me who thought

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<v Speaker 4>that that it was the most amazing one of all.

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<v Speaker 4>There was another guy who wrote. His name was antipurv Sidon.

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<v Speaker 4>He says, I and this is he's writing back in

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I guess BCE still because he was an

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<v Speaker 4>ancient Greek. But he said, I have seen the walls

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<v Speaker 4>of unbreachable Babylon. Remember that was originally when the Seven

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<v Speaker 4>Wonders along which chariots may race, and the statue of

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<v Speaker 4>Zeus by the River Alpheus, the hanging Gardens, and the

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<v Speaker 4>Colossus of the Sun, the Great Man made mountains of

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<v Speaker 4>the Lofty Pyramid, and the gigantic tomb of Masciless. But

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<v Speaker 4>when I saw the sacred House of Artemis reaching the clouds,

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<v Speaker 4>the others paled.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was Antipur of Sidon, right. So he's saying, like,

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen all the wonders, and to me, the temple

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<v Speaker 4>of Artemis at Efesis is the best.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, you got to see it. She has

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<v Speaker 2>bolt testicles hanging around her neck.

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<v Speaker 3>You've never seen anything like it.

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<v Speaker 2>So this thing was very I mean it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was a legit tourist destination. People would travel long distances

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:32.400
<v Speaker 2>to come to this place to see the statue in

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 2>the temple, and it was I mean, it's hard to believe,

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 2>but even back then they had. It boosted the local

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 2>economy and was literally supported by like gift shops selling

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 2>little statuette recreations of this thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and this is already a wealthy area, so the

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 4>tourism was so big that that was still significant. The replicas,

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 4>the sale of the replicas still made that much of

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 4>a splash on the local that's how many were sold.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you go to New York City and you go

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<v Speaker 2>to a gift shop at at the Statue of Liberty

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<v Speaker 2>and you buy the little replica that exact thing was

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<v Speaker 2>going on thousands of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's nothing new.

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<v Speaker 3>I want one of those.

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<v Speaker 4>That would be great if you're looking for something for

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<v Speaker 4>me for Christmas, an original replica from the BCE, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>of the Temple of Artemis.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love that, all right.

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 2>So you just want to give that's worth that's priceless basically. Okay,

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 2>So this story gets a little more interesting here. You

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned a pyromaniac earlier in July three fifty six BC.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a man name and we almost didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>his name. He wrote Stratus, who is a pyromaniac who

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<v Speaker 2>burned this temple down for the by all accounts, for

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<v Speaker 2>the sole reason of living in infamy.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Decree that his name was I'll never be recorded at all,

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<v Speaker 2>so he wouldn't even earn that.

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:04.839
<v Speaker 1>But someone did.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that was it was punishable upon death to even

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<v Speaker 4>say his name afterward.

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but yeah, a guy named who was it?

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<v Speaker 4>Theopompus was the one who wrote it down, who recorded

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:18.839
<v Speaker 4>the act and so.

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 3>What's his name? Heristratus?

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, was was recorded in infamy just like he wanted.

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 5>He was.

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<v Speaker 3>He was an ancient jerk, I think, is what you'd

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<v Speaker 3>call it.

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<v Speaker 2>And the temple, this is the story gets even better

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<v Speaker 2>because the temple burned the same day that Alexander the

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Great was born, which was amazing, and the temple. They

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<v Speaker 2>would later rebuild the temple and Alexander said, yeah, you

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:46.400
<v Speaker 2>know what, why don't I why don't I pay for

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<v Speaker 2>this thing?

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<v Speaker 1>All you gotta do is, like I don't know.

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Just throw my name on it somewhere, right, And they said, yeah,

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 2>that's nice, but we'll we'll just build it on her own.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, But then they backed slowly out of the room, like, okay,

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 4>that's okay, right, you're not gonna kill us, are you.

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I couldn't find a bunch of places that said

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 2>that he wanted his name on the temple except for

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 2>our article, So I'm not sure that's true.

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Did you see that in other places?

0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 3>I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's so the story goes. I'm not sure

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 1>about that though.

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<v Speaker 4>That's according to how stuff works. Yeah, so they rebuilt it.

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<v Speaker 4>They eventually did rebuild it, and I think it was

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<v Speaker 4>some Yeah, it was somewhat shortly after I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 4>actually how long it was after it was burned.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't, No one knows. They said they don't

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:33.879
<v Speaker 1>know the date.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, but it was rebuilt, and I think it was

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<v Speaker 4>rebuilt even bigger than before.

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 4>But then in two sixty two CE, the Goths rated

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<v Speaker 4>it raided Aphasis, led by Robert Smith and Peter Murphy,

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<v Speaker 4>and they burned.

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<v Speaker 3>That thing to the ground.

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>They actually broke the thing up and used the marble

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 4>to build the city. After what an earthquake yep, a

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 4>bunch of earthquake that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the great leveler I know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I saw another thing that said, and this

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 2>wasn't our our article either, but it said that it

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<v Speaker 2>was rebuilt again even after that, and then a Christian

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 2>mob came along and destroyed it.

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:20.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh, is that right?

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 1>That's what I saw.

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<v Speaker 3>I've not seen that one.

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 4>I did see that Ephesis was an important city in

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<v Speaker 4>the Bible, because I think Paul came and was proselytizing

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<v Speaker 4>there and started a riot because everybody's like, oh man,

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 4>your God sounds so great that it's going to undermine

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<v Speaker 4>our artemis and our local economy's going to fall to pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, an, your religion was so interesting, it really was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, all right, have you got anything else

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:48.760
<v Speaker 1>on that one?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I don't, man. I think we've reached the end

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<v Speaker 3>of part one.

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