1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio Mommy's a Myth and Bullshit a radio 2 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: phonic novella. Look Radio hosted by malamo Ola Locomotives. Welcome 3 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: back to local radio. Welcome back. This is my lap 4 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: and this is Diosa and we are less as your host. 5 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Look at a Radio is a podcast archiving the brilliance 6 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: and legacies of women and fems of color. Thank you 7 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: so much for joining us once again for another copy 8 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: The Little Brown Girl Our We're so excited. I don't know. 9 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: Every time we record, I'm just like so happy, can't 10 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: wait to get into the talk. I always get super pumped. 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: I feel like the energy is good, and I'm always 12 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: like it's gonna be a fabulous, fantastic day. That's how 13 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: I feel. Ye, Saturdays are usually like my favorite days, 14 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: same here, same here, as those are our record earting days. Yeah. Absolutely, um, 15 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: And I just you know, I want to thank everybody 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: that has been listening to the last two caps um. 17 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: We shared them all within or both of them within 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: the same week. So we had Look Epistemologies Part two, 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: and then we had our with the Ladies of Plant 20 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: Parenthood oh C, and we talked about the Orange County 21 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: Women's March, and today is actually Women's March Los Angeles, 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: Women's March Orange County, right, Um, and we're not there today. 23 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: We're not at the Women's March. No, you know, being 24 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: a marches is in you know, public events are really important. Um, 25 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: but we also wanted to preserve our energy and we 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: have a really special guest that we're going to be 27 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: recording with instead of attending the Women's March, so we 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: felt like that was just as important. So yeah, that's 29 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: why we're not there. But if you're if you are 30 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: there by the time you're listening, were there, more power 31 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: to you. You know, hope you were safe. Yeah. I 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: marched last year. Um, my job always has like a contingent, 33 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: a group of people that goes and meets up in marches, 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: and so I went last year. It was a great experience. 35 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: We recorded a capitolo about the Women's March last year. 36 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: So it's something that we're either we've participated in or 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: we've talked about it and all of our support in 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: our lad and we hope it goes well. Yeah, so 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: throwback if you haven't listened to that capitulo, I believe 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: it's sinco of Uman Oh yeah, you're going to hold 41 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: white women accounting because it was about holding white women 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: accountable last year. Yes. Um, so yeah, tune into that 43 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: one if you would like, if you haven't already, or 44 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: maybe you want to relisten. Um. So yeah, we're super 45 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: excited to be recording today. Um. And we're doing something 46 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: new today. Yes. Yeah. So if we sound a little 47 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: weirder is because we're adjusting. Yeah, what are we doing? Okay, 48 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: so by the time you you're listening to this, you 49 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: will know that we are launching a YouTube channel. Yeah, 50 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: we're super excited. So this is our first time that 51 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: we're recording with the camera on us. It's a little awkward. 52 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: It's a little awkward to adjust. Um, I don't really 53 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: know where to look. Normally I look at Mala, but 54 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: now I've had to situate my body a little differently. So, um, 55 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: we're out for us. I feel like I need I 56 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: was telling my life, feel like I need a cushion 57 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: to sit on. So I'm a little taller, you know, 58 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: petite bitch. Problems is what we were saying. Problems, a 59 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: real problem. My love was like, oh yeah, yeah, we 60 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: can get you one. And I was like, girl, I 61 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: have one in my car. I drive with a little 62 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: with a little a little cushion is so cute. I know, 63 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: I know. Whatever. Anyways, So, um, I think that maybe 64 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: we can get into our segment or new segment. Um yeah, 65 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: one minute second, but we get situated. We're adjusting, like 66 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: we said, and you know, our locomotives, we just love this. 67 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: We really appreciate and respect and honor the love that 68 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: you show for us. So we always want to give 69 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: you all more So starting the YouTube channel is you know, 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: another way for y'all to engage with us, you know, 71 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: to watch maybe like maybe we'll do some behind the 72 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: scenes stuff and to really see what it's like when 73 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: we record. Um, and also to show out because we 74 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: always come really cute to record. Yes, we always come 75 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: in our outfits, but we don't always take pictures and 76 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: it's honestly a travesty like, um, hello, like this needs 77 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: to be documented. I look so cute, right, I agree. 78 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: I put in thought when I'm gonna when I'm gonna 79 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: come and record and stuff. So so yeah, now you 80 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: get to see it in la. So um, I think 81 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 1: it's time for us to get into our segments. Question 82 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: time ask us look I thought us or yours? Yes, 83 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: oh yeah, look as So in this segment, we received 84 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: a question on our Curious Cat and this was a 85 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: question that was asked back in September. So I'm excited 86 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: that we're gonna be able to answer it. So if 87 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: you're like I hope you're listening. So the question is, 88 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: how did y'all tap into your personal style? Were you 89 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: always so fashionable or did it come recently? Well, first 90 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: of all, thank you, thank you very much. That's so sweet. 91 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for calling us fashionable. Yeah, we try a lot. 92 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: We put a lot of effort, and we honestly, we 93 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: put a lot of effort. I wonder if, I don't 94 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: know if it looks effortless. I don't think it does, 95 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: but it's a it's a combination of actually putting time 96 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: and effort into it because it's fun and I like it. 97 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: I agree, And also sometimes there is that kind of 98 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: just effortless. Just I did just you know, crawl out 99 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: of my apartment and this is how I came out, 100 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, take it or leave it thing. But so, 101 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: how did you tap into your personal style? The sad? Okay, Well, 102 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just body kna everything to be 103 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: completely honest body every day. Yeah, yeah, I think because 104 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm since I am petite, I feel like I get 105 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: lost in clothing, so you know, shout out to Rihanna 106 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: because she does not, and I hope to channel that 107 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: one day to just be able to rock something really 108 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: loose and big. But personally, I feel like I get lost. 109 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: So I just try to to basically basically tailor my 110 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: outfits to how I want my body to look right 111 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: on what makes me feel. I actually feel the most 112 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: comfortable inform fitting things, which is really weird. Um that's real. 113 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, because I just yeah, that's when I feel 114 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: the most comfortable, like okay, yeah, you can see all 115 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: of me. Yeah, that's what I want. That's the goal. 116 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: That's the goal, fire purpose. Yes see me, see all 117 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: of me? Yes, um yea. And then I think, just 118 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: like style in suppose, um, I really like j Lo 119 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: j Lo like I love her nude looks. Whenever I'm 120 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: thinking of like high glam, I'm always thinking of She's 121 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: one of the people I think of is JL. I 122 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: love all the glitter and the nude and the gloss 123 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: and her straight hair, her big hair. One day, I 124 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: want to rock a really big ponytail. That's my goal. 125 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: That's going to be a hairpiece. I want a hair pony. 126 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: I do. I want a pony. I've been thinking about 127 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: experimenting with hair pieces, but no, I love that. I 128 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: can that. That's you. That's your style, that's your look. 129 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: It's lamb, it's it's pinks, it's gurly. Yeah, it's cute. Yeah, 130 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: and then I think, um, just to like personalize it, 131 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: I always like to throw in something. Um. I always 132 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: like use the word funky, like something funky um, whether 133 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: it be like shoes or like a purse or ear rings, detail, 134 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: a detail, an accessory. Yeah, an accessory, that's like, Okay, 135 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: that's me. That's what I like. A signature, it's the 136 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: signature piece, if you will. Yeah, signature pieces are really important. Yeah. Um, 137 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: I love that. So for me, my style, my personal style, 138 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: I've gone through a lot of different phases. Like I've 139 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: gone through many phases. But even in my youth, like 140 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: there was a period of time where I went through 141 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: my like I only listened to Evanescence and No Doubt 142 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: and I wore all black and I had the black jelly. 143 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: I had a little goth period too. Yes, we have 144 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: our goth period. I had like a little rockabilly period 145 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: and I would do the hair and the whole thing. 146 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: I loved it, Honestly, it was so cute. I loved it. 147 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: So I could still see this, like rockabilly look on you. 148 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I still see it. I do like retro looks. 149 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: I like retro looks. I like vintage looks, seventies looks, 150 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: especially like disco looks. I liked emulate Share a lot 151 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: because I feel like that's somebody that I can emulate, 152 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: you know. I try not to go too far out 153 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: of my lane, and like this is accessible to me, 154 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna do this. I feel like my style 155 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: is also very l a like very West Coast. I 156 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: do because it's kind of like cute and summary, but 157 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: I think that it has somewhat of like a little 158 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: bit of a hip hop element to it. I think 159 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: that I got a lot of style inspiration when I 160 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: lived in London. I did a year abroad and just 161 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: like the street fashion, the style out there, like shopping 162 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: at Prime Mark like was everything to me and I 163 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: loved it. And I love how like in the UK 164 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot of playing with like structure and with 165 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: callers and you know, like accessories and things like that. 166 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: So I had a lot of fun um out there. 167 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: And I also think that Koreatown is a style. I 168 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: live basically in Koreatown creatown adjacent and like Koreatown street 169 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: style is its own ship and people do not give 170 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: Koreatown fashions enough credit. And I will just say that 171 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: Koreans have some of the like like yeah, I don't know, 172 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: like their style choices, the clothes, the brands that they're wearing, 173 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: like dope, love it. So I think that's where my 174 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: style comes from. Yeah, it's the next match. I feel 175 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: like also, um feel I feel like I dressed not 176 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: that I dressed differently because I don't think I changed myself, 177 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: but I think my partner will also influence what I wear. 178 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: That's the thing, right that. Yeah, like I've had my 179 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: periods where I've dressed like really really sexy, you know, 180 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 1: and then I've had my periods where maybe I'm a 181 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: little more more modest, some more casual or whatever. When 182 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: I don't know, it just depends. Yeah, But but in 183 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: this in the same way, like just to echo, like 184 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: I just I still try to like add my little 185 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: my signature to it so that you know, no matter 186 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: what it is, it's going to have your elements on it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 187 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: I think, like you said, Rihanna is a huge stylent inspiration. 188 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: She encourages me to try different silhouettes and to try 189 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: like baggy stuff and form fitting stuff. So that's if 190 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm doing something that's kind of baggyear, or I'm doing 191 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: a mixed match of like tight and loose, it's it's 192 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: very much admittedly Arihanna inspired. Yes, you know when you 193 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: were your your denim jacket, I'm like, yes, that is 194 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: a Rihanna lug. Oh yeah, my giant denim jacket. That's 195 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: all Rihanna. I have like a giant Aliah shirt. That's 196 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: my Rihanna inspo. Yeah. So yeah, yeah, I'm going to 197 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: push myself this year too. I think play with the 198 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: silhouettes like you said, um and we'll see. Yeah. I 199 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: like when New Year's happened and style changes and the 200 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: color of the year. This year is like a really 201 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: nice violet, um yah. And last year it was you know, 202 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: the rose quartz pink and the baby blue, which you 203 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: saw everywhere. So I really like to see the colors 204 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: of the year and like keep up with them, So 205 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm this year it's violet, so I'm excited to play 206 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: with that color too. It's a sun color and because 207 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: I love purple. Yeah, you know, so there's a lot 208 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: that can be done with it. I agree. So so 209 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: are are We have a guest today and she actually 210 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: just texted that she's ready. This is the very first 211 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: time we're doing a phone interview, so we're excited really 212 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: put shing ourselves this year to to do more. So 213 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: we're really excited. I'm going to text her and tell 214 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: her to call yes, and you are going to love 215 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: this guest. I'm so excited for our listeners and for us. 216 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: So while we wait for her to call, um, I 217 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: just you know, wanted to, I'll do a quick introduction. 218 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: But our guest today is actually Joanna Unapologetically Brown series 219 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: in case you haven't seen anything, but I'm positive our 220 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: locomotives have. She does three are all over New York City, 221 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: and it's really to empower the black and brown community, 222 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,239 Speaker 1: especially women. Um talking about and document being a documented 223 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: just being of color, being resilient, being amazing, doing the 224 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: damn thing. So I'm really excited that we get to 225 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: talk with her and she's calling. Now she's calling, so 226 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: we're going to bring her on. Did she turn the 227 00:11:52,440 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: men on on? Hello? Hello? Oh hello ladies. A we're 228 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: always been thinking. So this is Theosa just so you know, 229 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: and this is Nala. Thank you for calling. We're recording, 230 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, we're live basically, so welcome. Yes, thank you 231 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: so much. I'm so sorry. I'm like, you know, the 232 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: m wants to ruin lives and stuff, but we don't 233 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: let them. We understand. We're always on Brown Girl Hour. Yes, 234 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: we get it perfect, perfect. I shouldn't know. Yes, So 235 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm really happy that you can, you know, be on 236 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: the phone with us today. Um. I did a little 237 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: introduction before you called, so I but I want to 238 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: give our listener the chance for you to really introduce 239 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: yourself and what you do. Yeah. So, my name is 240 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: Joanna Joana, and I'm the creator of the Unapologetically Brown series. 241 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm a Salvador in New York based street artists, visual artists, 242 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: or whatever I have to do to empower my community's artists. 243 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: And I runs the Unapologetical Ground series, which is a 244 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: multi media uh street series mental empower women in color 245 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: um and the way that I do that now is 246 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: through visuals and street art. Yeah. Yeah, When did you 247 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: start taking your art and making it public out on 248 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: the street. When did that begin for you? Well, honestly, 249 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: that started when I was in high school, when I 250 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: was like, you know, fifteen sixteen, I started putting up 251 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: little posters in my hallway at school, you know, because 252 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: I was a pretty rebellious kid. I was the like 253 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: one of the only few opening queer kids in school, 254 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: so I was always fighting against somebody, you know what 255 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm says, so little posters here and there, especially when 256 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: I was trying to start the first uh queer club 257 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: at my high school. Um. But then after that I 258 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: just kind of sit on it and it didn't occur 259 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: to me until I started the series of a year 260 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: ago on SoundCloud. So it was an audio project. At first, 261 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: I wanted it to be I don't know, I think 262 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: I wanted it to be a podcast where poetry or something. 263 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: But then I was just like, you know what, No, 264 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm not really cut for that, Like I don't know 265 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: how to do that. So I took it back to 266 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: the original to the posters, and I just started putting 267 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: all the poetry and the quotes with um the Woman 268 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: of Color and stuff like that onto paper and then 269 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: putting it on the street. That's amazing. So can you 270 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: explain to us or maybe our listeners, UM, what your 271 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: process is like? UM, you mentioned that what's on the 272 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: actual posters is your poetry. So how do you decide 273 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: like what quota you're going to use or you know, 274 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: can you talk to us about that? Yeah? Okay, So 275 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: my poster making process, I guess sometimes is in that luxurious. 276 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: Is not that fun because it's either poetry, you know, 277 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: I write myself where I I picked like you know, 278 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: Angela Davis or a side of the core people that 279 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: I livia revolutionary, UM, and I want to high load 280 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: highlights those people because I feel like we don't usually 281 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, UM for whatever. So UM. As far as 282 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: as the other concept the flowers and those are either 283 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: random or I research, you know, UM. So for my 284 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: TPS poster, I just wanted to make sure I honored 285 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: like Central America and the Caribbean. So I didn't research 286 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: on that. UM. But they're making isn't like it's not 287 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: I can make a poster on the train. I can 288 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: make a poster, you know, while I'm in bed like 289 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: that's whatever is to me. The most sacred part of 290 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: what I do is the actual street work of it, 291 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: which is the labor of putting on the street. That's 292 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: very you know, that takes time and an actual like 293 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: literal physical labor, right consists. I have to make sure 294 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: that there's posters on the street at all time, um, 295 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: which is amazing because yes, it's just me that does it. 296 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: But then I also make the posters available for free online, 297 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: so other people have taken advantage of that and put 298 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: up posters in their own communities throughout the whole country. 299 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: So that's that's a good segue into the next topic. 300 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: I wanted us to talk about art and accessibility because 301 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: when watching I watched your the video of the incredible 302 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: video that me tho data on your on your work, 303 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: the features you and you talk about how you make 304 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: your art accessible on a Google Drive. So can you 305 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: talk about that? Yeah, So I was, you know, the 306 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: main thing for me in this work. Once I realized, 307 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: you know, SoundCloud is not my venue, it became all 308 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: about accessibility to you know, to the best of my 309 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: ability and what I could do. So I thought if 310 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: the posters, um, you know, once I started to realize 311 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: that the posters were making a significant difference in my community, 312 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: and I was seeing a positive response. And you know, UM, 313 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: when I see pictures of open and of color like 314 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: on the street next to my posters, like that makes 315 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: my whole day, because that's why this work. So putting 316 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: it on Google became obvious to me as soon as 317 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: I realized, Um, you know, this work should be everywhere, 318 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: but I cannot be everywhere at once. So putting it 319 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: available online for people that have access to it and 320 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: have the ability to go out into the street and 321 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: do what I do, UM made logical, you know, made 322 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: perfect sense to me. So I'm wondering, you know, when 323 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: you were younger, when you were growing up, did you 324 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: ever see street art that spoke to you the way 325 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: that you hope your campaign speaks to women of color, 326 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: feeling like, was there an example that you had that 327 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: inspired you to do this, or or that you had 328 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: already had exposure to um when I was drawing up. Honestly, no, Um, 329 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: there was not a lot of that going around. Like, 330 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't grow up in a place where 331 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: a lot of streets art yest art, yes, of course, 332 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: but not art represented me or or you know, or 333 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: that I saw myself in it. Now, my work does 334 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: come from in how I brought me that we expressed 335 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: pain in my country through street work and through murals, 336 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: which is you know, very very heavy at the time 337 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: in the Civil War. So I didn't forget about that. 338 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: And I you know, it's like a perfect marriage of 339 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: the two. And blending social media has been the key 340 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: for me. Um, bringing the street and social media together 341 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: into a perfect hybrid has been has been the key 342 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: to my work. Um. So that's amazing, And I'm you know, 343 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: we did um a cup pizzolow about street harassment and 344 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: a lot of our locomotives submitted, um, you know, their 345 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: narratives and their first hand experiences about facing street harassment, 346 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: and many of them were women of color. So we 347 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: know that the streets for us are are really not 348 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: very safe places for for many of us. And so 349 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: I'm wondering, like, you're a move head and you're doing 350 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: street art, and I wonder how safety like figures in 351 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: for you when you're putting up your art, and whether 352 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: that's safety be has of like just other people or 353 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: the police. How does that work for you? Yeah? Um, 354 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: you know what Luckily, like living in New York, it's 355 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: so busy here. You know, people on the street don't 356 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: give a shit about what you're doing. Of course, yes, 357 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: there's absolutely harassed. Man, I'm that I'm not saying that 358 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: there isn't. Um, but I like to go out during 359 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: the day. Um. A lot of people have a misconception 360 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: that I must do this at like three am, you know, 361 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: when the stars back. Yes, I wear all black. I 362 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: wear my black overalls and usually a black shirt. But no, 363 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm out doing this in the middle of the 364 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: day when I can actually see in my community, when 365 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: I can actually see the people on the street, because 366 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: you know, when I when you do this and stuff, 367 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 1: and as I do this, and you know, uh, some 368 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: of the same areas because I try and keep a 369 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: rotation in some of the same places. Right, people get 370 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: to know you. And that's very important to me to 371 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: actually interact with my community and be industries you know. 372 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: So um. Luckily, I haven't had very many consensus where 373 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: people bothered me. Yeah, there's been a couple of times where, 374 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: like you know, you'll see two is that don't have 375 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: any concept of boundaries and just randomly pull out a 376 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: camera and start taking pictures of you while you're working, 377 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: which I wouldn't mind, and you know, if you ask me, 378 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't care, you know, But if you have 379 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: no CONFI boundary, that's different. Um, the police, I don't 380 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: acknowledge the NYPD, and that's all there. You go. Well, 381 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: I think what you're doing is another way for that 382 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: a woman of color can really reclaim public space. You're 383 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: putting your art out there, and you're putting it specifically 384 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: for you know, black and brown women, queer folks. So 385 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: I think you are you know, reclaiming space in that 386 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: way when we've known, especially when we talked in our 387 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: sexual harassment episode, that the public space is not necessarily 388 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: a place for us, right we don't really have there's 389 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: no safety for us. So that's another way that you're 390 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: really reclaiming that which is so powerful. Yeah, definitely I 391 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: wanted to, Um, I definitely wanted to reclaim that in all, 392 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: really just disrupt that space that is so um that 393 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: is so white, you know, especially out here and where 394 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: we have a very very fashion heavy industry and in 395 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: the streets reflect that. So we have an influx of 396 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: European standards that are you know, classics all over the street. 397 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: So to me, that's very exhausting, right, um So I 398 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: wanted to combat that in in the essence reclaim um 399 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, the very places that we we exist in 400 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: every single day, why not you know how a space 401 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: that is for us. Um So that was very important 402 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: to me. Thank you so much for I mean, you know, 403 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: kind of talking about your process and the work that 404 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: you do. I think it also kind of demystifies a 405 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: lot as far as being a street artist and creating 406 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: art in public space. I think, maybe especially a lot 407 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: of young women might think, like that's something that's totally 408 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: out of reach for me. I could never do that. 409 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: I have to be a part of a certain subculture 410 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: or a street culture or whatever to part anticipate. But 411 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: you're creating something that you don't have to have access 412 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: to a studio art equipment to accomplish what you're accomplishing. No, no, no, 413 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: not at all. And like that's something that I always 414 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: want to remind people is that, like I literally started 415 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: my series and my work by googling and and YouTube 416 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: being what I needed to know because no idea how 417 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: to make glue. When I started, I had no idea 418 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: what kind of no idea what softword. I literally had 419 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: no knowledge whatsoever. Um So, so it doesn't for us. 420 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 1: You need to just remind people like you can. Literally 421 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: I realized that we don't all have access to do 422 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: the same things right, but it's scrappy and creative and 423 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: do it yourself like literally is dea why as it 424 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: gets and how this work started contrust me, I had 425 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: no idea what I was doing. I was just like, oh, 426 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to google and YouTube these things. And another 427 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: important thing that is important is that I'm doing in 428 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: my work is I do workshops to teach people how 429 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: to do what I did, not because I feel like 430 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: it can't be figured, but because honestly, when I started 431 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: to book this stuff up on the internet, I was 432 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: forced to watch videos on videos of white men and 433 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: and tutorials from like Shepherds Parry and like people like that, 434 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: which is fine, but it's not for me, saying like, 435 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: you know, so I wanted to make sure that now 436 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: that I have this knowledge, um, I teach I teach people, 437 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, especially kids. So like workshops done some workshops 438 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: in the Bronx to teach people kids how to make 439 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: wheat paste because I just want to pass what I 440 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: know down right, and that's the whole in my work. Yeah, 441 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: and that's that's really what community is. Right. I have 442 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: this resource. Now, let me share it with you so 443 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: you can share with your friend and you can share 444 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: it with your brima. Right, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely yes, thank you, 445 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: thank you. We're going to go into our song break 446 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: m and and and and and and and and and 447 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: and and friends back and and um um um um 448 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: um um um of it and and we are back 449 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: and we're back barely, we barely made it. Hello, Joanna, 450 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: you Joanna, are you with us? I'm here, okay, excellent, fabulous. 451 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: So can you tell me a little bit what does 452 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: being a Capricorn mean to you? Because you know, lots 453 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: of people like to shoot on caps. Lots of people 454 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: like to shoot on caps. I know, I know it's horrendous. 455 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: I think that I think that male capricorn energy is trash. 456 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: Thank you. But um feminine? Oh oh, we lost her. No, 457 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: the call drops, Okay, let us call her back. We're 458 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: gonna get back. We're gonna get her back. She was 459 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: about to say something really good about feminine capricorn energy. 460 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: So we got to get her back again. It was 461 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: the Fens. It's it's always, it's always the Fens. Wonder 462 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: if we could just edit that out. Maybe it's a blooper. 463 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: This is neither blooper. What happened. Maybe she went into 464 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: a bridge or something. I think she's home now, Okay, 465 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna call us. Yeah, she'll call us back. 466 00:25:54,800 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: We can we can talk more. We can talk more. Um, 467 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: talk about what Capricorn slander is new to me because 468 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: really you're like you and like maybe another friend or 469 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: like the only Capricorns that are like really in my life. 470 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: I don't have many Capricorns in my life. Is hello. Heay, 471 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. It's okay. We were saying that it 472 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: was the FEDS silencing your Capricorn slander. Again, it's always 473 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: the Fed. Yes, so Capricorn was listening, I know. No, 474 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: Um yeah, being a Capricorn and our loneliness and our 475 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, we're very consivative sometimes, which can be like 476 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: I can get on my own nerves, but other than that, like, 477 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: you know, being a Capricorn to me is like, you know, 478 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: we have a ship together and like or at least 479 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: we think we do. We try to do the appearance 480 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: of generally, I like to think like I generally have 481 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: my ship together, and it could be worse, right, That's 482 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: how I like the perspective. I like to put one 483 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: that's hilarious. But no, okay, So I think we wanted 484 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: to talk about like love and dating in romance. Yes, um, 485 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: I am let's do it super super I can admit this. 486 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: I am super obsessed with your relationship with your partner. 487 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: It is like to me, like such a like beautiful 488 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: representation of like queer love. Um. And obviously I haven't 489 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: met schell, but social media has that way of making 490 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: you feel like you know everybodyship. Yes, so, yeah, we 491 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: just want to talk about you know, queer love, dating, romance, 492 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: all the good stuff. Yes, I'm here for all of 493 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: these topics. You know, you know, you know, I consider 494 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: Instagram to be a dating app. I'm just gonna put 495 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: it is. It is how did y'all meet? No, it 496 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: is definitely is a community. Well, actually, we we were 497 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: like following me each other through Instagram because of the 498 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: work that she does and then the work did I do. Um. 499 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: She wrote an article that that was super fire, and 500 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: I think I sort of following her because it's at 501 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: and then but we met in person at Pride, So 502 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: basically Instagram broughtshout together. Yeah, I love it. I've met 503 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: people on Instagram. We met on Instagram. We met on Instagram. Yeah, 504 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: but we were friends for me and her. Me and 505 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: me were friends first. Okay, we were a little bit 506 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: and then we were like, okay, so what's up. You know, 507 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: that's really great. Do you know other people who have 508 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: also met on Instagram? Yeah? I think people have to 509 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: meet each other on Instagram now, just like I don't 510 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: think that that's like, um so much outside of the 511 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: norm anymore. You know, the followback is almost like a match. Yeah. 512 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: I feel like it's like a woman of color thing, 513 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: like building community women of color with queer folks q walk. 514 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: Like I feel like it's very interconnected and if you're 515 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: outside of that, like maybe you don't get it. Like 516 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: I know my partner or it's always yeah, my partner 517 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: is always like everybody that I follow, I literally know, 518 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: like I don't understand how you don't know these people, 519 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, but I know them, you know 520 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: what I mean, And like he doesn't get overtly yes, no, 521 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I totally agree, Like, I think 522 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: that it's a very valid way of you know, building 523 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 1: community with people and like getting to know people and like, 524 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, I noticed when somebody I follow, like, oh 525 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: they haven't posted like look. Yes, there's a sense of 526 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: like building a relationship with people when you keep up 527 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: with each other's works, like literally if they weren't for 528 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: social media. So there's obviously negative aspect to it, but 529 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: I think that we we often forget to celebrate the 530 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, the relationships and the beauty that we can 531 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: build through Instagram. Also questioned, is somebody not having any 532 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: social media a deal breaker? Is it a red flag? 533 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: What does it mean these days? It's a red flag? Right, Yeah, 534 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: that's why who are you? And why are you like 535 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: the like you? Exactly? That's the first question. Are you married? 536 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: You married? Do you have kids? You secretly married? Do 537 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 1: you have a wife? I need to know. No, thank you, 538 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm not here for it. If you're like, I don't know. 539 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: I just think it's weird. Maybe it's because I'm so 540 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: I'm so on social media like person, so I think 541 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: for me, it's just weird. If you're if you're not 542 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: at all, I can't even imagine, like and maybe that 543 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: says more about us than it does about them, Like 544 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: maybe no, no, no, okay, never mind, I take it back. No, 545 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: I don't know it's true. It's just such like this 546 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: is just our day and age, like this is just 547 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: the standard, you know, and if you're not getting the standard, 548 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: then it's off, you know. I agree, definitely, I agree completely, 549 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: Like what I don't know, I will say though. I 550 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: will say though that I think the fact that we 551 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: like will follow each other before we date each other 552 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: or before we meet each other in real life. It's like, 553 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: now this person has all this insight into you, and 554 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, so are they. It's like, are you 555 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: just saying this because you think you know what I 556 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: want to hear because you look at all my posts 557 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: and I'm ranting and I'm giving my perspectives and now 558 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: you think you know what I mean. Is what I'm 559 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: getting from you authentic or are you tailoring it based 560 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: on what you've seen on my social media? No, that's 561 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: isn't true. And it's funny because like me and Amy 562 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: do these like what if all the time, Like oh 563 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: what if we hadn't met in a difference? She was um, 564 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: she was doing my makeup today, and I was like, oh, 565 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: what if we hadn't met and you were doing my makeup? 566 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: How cute? Imagine? I love that. Actually you fall in 567 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: love with your makeup artists, did you imagine? Yeah, how's 568 00:31:55,160 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: how's cute? Oh no, So with stuff, I think we 569 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: also wanted to ask, you know, if there was any 570 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: other like advice or tips, hints, insights for tricks for 571 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: any of our listeners who like want to start their 572 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: own project. I know for us from the perspective of 573 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: of d I Y podcasters, we've given our tips and 574 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: things before, but we want to hear from you. What 575 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: would your tips be for our listeners? Yeah? Um, okay, 576 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: so my tips would be too, literally, use anything you can, 577 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: which is like you know, Google, YouTube, anything that will 578 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: lend you the information and tools that you need to 579 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: build your project. You know. Um, Like when I first 580 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: started this, I literally had no idea, Like I downloaded 581 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: some shitty app to do my post. Everything is I 582 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: was doing UM and ask questions and reach out to 583 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: your peers and your friends and you know too, artists 584 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: that you that you feel like, you know, UM, that 585 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: you admire and just I think that that's really important 586 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,959 Speaker 1: to me is just distributing the information we know and 587 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: giving it back to them because that's how we build 588 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: and that's how we change. Um everything is to really 589 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: reinforce each other through information and community and arts. And 590 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: I think that's all a very very um substantial radical 591 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: act of healing. I love that's amazing. Yeah, that is amazing. 592 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: And you know, I also want to say, while we're 593 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: talking about doing projects yourselves social media, this is something 594 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: that Yosa and I have talked about before, but when 595 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: it comes to social media and like creativity, I feel 596 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: like it's really the women of color and the queer 597 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: folks who are killing it and who are really revolutionizing things. 598 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this, it's not it's not straight men, 599 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: it's not sis heat man. They're not doing it. They're 600 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: not and they haven't been doing it. I mean, like 601 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: all the creativity, all the cool ship, it's women of color. 602 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: It's absolutely and like dead ass. I've noticed like it's 603 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: the year of the underdog. It's it's it's the time 604 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: of the underdogs. It's the time of of women in 605 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: terms of color, to time for the queer kids to 606 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, what's up. So we're here is you know, 607 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: we're not taking any of that ship anymore. And I 608 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: think that that's very beautiful. Oh yeah. And what I 609 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: want and what I want is for like the young 610 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: like artists and creators right now who are really just 611 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: taking up the online space and getting recognition. I want 612 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: history to like really identify that and celebrate us, you know, 613 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: and I and I don't want it to get pushed 614 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: to the to the wayside, like I want us to 615 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: leave a mark really absolutely, yeah, because we are you 616 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 1: know when I think about this, and I think about 617 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: this all the time, actually, you know, consciously of like 618 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: what I'm working on, what I'm doing, what other people 619 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: are doing. You know. One of the reasons why I 620 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: reached out to you, you know, to you always because 621 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: I really respect what you're doing. And I think that 622 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: collaboration is like the biggest thing in the world. And 623 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: I think that honestly, like that's it, you know, this 624 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: is this the wave, and this is how we take 625 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: each other to and we elevate each other to other places, 626 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: and we set a president of like no, this is 627 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: what we demand now, you know what I'm saying. No, No, 628 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: you studying at present of like what it means, you know, 629 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: reinfort you know, reinserting ourselves and spaces where they try 630 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: to push us out even though we build those spaces, 631 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's all about bringing 632 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 1: back to the original, bring it back to who who 633 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: did this in the first place, you know what I'm saying. Yes, girl, 634 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 1: I'm inspired, inspired, inspired, Let's get this work. Then let's 635 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: do this this creativity. Yes, I want to thank you 636 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: again so much for thank you for being here, for 637 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: the work that you do, for being an inspiration, for 638 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: really giving some solid, like real hands on advice to 639 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: our listeners. And I know that we have a lot 640 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: of creative listeners who have their own projects or who 641 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: want to start their own projects, and we want everybody 642 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: like pick up that camera, write down that idea, get started, 643 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, most definitely, And that's that's how anything starts. 644 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: You know, I cannot pick here and tell you that 645 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: when I started this project, I knew that one day 646 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: I would be sitting down talking to people you know, 647 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: that care about the work. I had no idea that 648 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: I was. You know the fact that I'm talking to 649 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: you right now right to YouTube is um tells me 650 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: that what I'm doing is working and like, but I 651 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: had no idea when I started this, but this would 652 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: leading these decisions. So like I tell people like, don't 653 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, I understand feeling discouraged, but like take that picture, 654 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, make that write that poem, write that story, 655 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: because you have no idea where it will take you. 656 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: You literally have no idea where it will take you. 657 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: Because I had I had no idea, no idea that 658 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: a little project I started in my bathtub, writing in 659 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: my journal all sad and ship it was gonna was 660 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: gonna bring me here to this moment, right here where 661 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: we're speaking in right now. Yes, the possibilities are truly endless, 662 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: and we want our listeners to like you guys, like 663 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: go do it, do it. The possibilities are endless. We 664 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: have the talent, you know, yes, absolutely, and people are 665 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: hungry for it. I'm gonna tell you this right now. 666 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: Communities aren't we want work just for us, by us. 667 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: We want to support our people like like, you know, 668 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: I feel that so happily. We want to you know, 669 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: we want to uplift each other like yes, that is 670 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: so that is so real. Yeah, no, that's so real 671 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,959 Speaker 1: because you know Mola and I were always talking about 672 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: how like we want we're hungry for like TV shows. 673 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, I really want queer folks on TV. I 674 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 1: want to see latinas women of color and black folks 675 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: on TV. And right, and I wanted to move beyond 676 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: pain right, like I wanted to be a rom com. 677 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a sitcom. I wanted to be 678 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: us just living our best lives, right, you know what. 679 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to be funny, yes, actually adventure everything. I 680 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: wanted to literally see us doing every single thing. Yes, yes, 681 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: so I completely agree with you. Like, and we're the 682 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 1: ones I need to be writing, writing the TV shows, 683 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: writing the screenplays, putting the art out there. Yes, yes, 684 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: we need to be the ones that you know, we 685 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: need to be the one sitting at the head of 686 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: the table for these conversations, not sitting you know, to 687 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: the side, because that's the issues we have now, is 688 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: we have a lot of people having conversations about us, 689 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: and they're not asking that, they're not talking to us. 690 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: You know, in fact, we should be the ones that 691 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: are leading, they're leading the way because uh, you all 692 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: have tries long enough and no, thank you, you have 693 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: served that you haven't served as well, So we'll take 694 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: it from here. You know, we got it, we got it, 695 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: like we got it, like, please don't don't bother. So Joanna, 696 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: can you tell our listeners like where they can follow 697 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: you and keep up with your work and where they 698 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: can also access the prints that you've made available publicly. Yes, 699 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: so you can. The best way to keep up with 700 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: the series as is now, UM is definitely Instagram and 701 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: that's at the Unapologetically Bound series and UM, we have 702 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: a website where you can access the community posters that 703 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: are all free and then UM, obviously there's some in 704 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: the online shop that are not available in the in 705 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 1: the Unity posters, but they all make their rounds. Um. 706 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: I try and keep them all in ut you know, 707 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: take them out and put them in. So when you 708 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: also have sweaters and T shirts which I saw you 709 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: got some short Yeah, and we're coming We're coming to 710 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: l a Y. When is that? I already told Amy 711 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: that it is on my calendar. How exciting? Yes? Okay cool, 712 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: So we can look forward to seeing you out here. 713 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: I feel a meet up coming on. We're gonna get 714 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: into some trouble coming on. I was actually going to 715 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: ask you. I wanted out to you all. Um, I 716 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 1: would love if if you guys would do me the 717 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: honor of doing a Q and A with me at 718 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: a meet up with Oh my God panel out here. 719 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: When we do socials and stuff, usually Amy is the 720 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: one that that's alongside me and asked me questions. But 721 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: it's going to be her first few weekends, so I 722 00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: don't want to be having much of what do you 723 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: mean do? Oh, she's here, She's there, Hey, hey girl, 724 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 1: I love it, Oh my God, Okay, turn up. Panel 725 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: will definitely reach out with more dios, but I'm I'm 726 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: so here to collaborate and yes, oh my God, well, 727 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: thank you so much my goodness for being here and 728 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: for talking to us, and I cannot wait to meet you. Yes, 729 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: did you have any any just anything else you wanted 730 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: to say? Because we're about to wrap up here and 731 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: play the last song that you brought to us, But 732 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: were there any other final words that you wanted our 733 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 1: listeners to hear before we wrap up today? Now? I 734 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: just wanted to just remind everybody to just do the thing, 735 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 1: write the poem, song, create the content, because we're here 736 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 1: for it, our communities are here for it. So yeah, 737 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: I just really really want to inspire people to do 738 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 1: whatever is that that they wish to do. Um, everybody 739 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: has a place on the revolution if they're willing to 740 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: work for it. So I'm here for I'm here for it, 741 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: you know. Yes, that's beautiful words. Thank you so much 742 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: for being here again. We're super something great to get 743 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: to talk to you. Remember to follow, tweet, give us 744 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: a review on itune, subscribe, share, you know what you 745 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: gotta do, you know, make the rounds, the social media round. Yes, 746 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: and thank you once again to Joanna for being here 747 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: with us. We'll catch you now. Thank you so much.