Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the Hemmer Territory Podcast. My
Speaker 1: name is Sean Coleman. Hope, wherever you are and wherever
Speaker 1: you are listening, you are having a great start to
Speaker 1: your week. The Brains certainly are carrying over the momentum
Speaker 1: that they started off the second half of the season with.
Speaker 1: Over the weekend they were able to pull off another
Speaker 1: victory thanks to some clutch hitting, but even more so
Speaker 1: and maybe unexpected but outstanding performance from one Victor Verderis.
Speaker 1: More on that in just a moment, but first we
Speaker 1: have to welcome back one of the best when it
Speaker 1: comes to breaking down the Brains, my podcast host, your
Speaker 1: friend of mine, the one and Steven Tolbert, back in
Speaker 1: Braves Country. Welcome back, sir, good to see you as always.
Speaker 2: What's up, buddy, it's been a minute, it's been about
Speaker 2: a week. I just got home actually today tonight. The
Speaker 2: first thing I did was turned on the game. Of course,
Speaker 2: I've been tracking the team a little bit over the weekend.
Speaker 2: I wasn't plugged in a ton I know they won
Speaker 2: the series, but and I know, you know, the offense
Speaker 2: looked great, and the and the pitching and starting pitching
Speaker 2: specifically looked a little shaky after sale. What else is new?
Speaker 2: And so tonight, you know it was gonna be all
Speaker 2: about Bryce Elder and how long he could go. The
Speaker 2: Braves were obviously gonna be very short in the bullpen
Speaker 2: because they had covered so many innings the last two games.
Speaker 2: And you know, the game is gonna be the main
Speaker 2: topic of this pod. We're gonna talk about some injury stuff,
Speaker 2: some trade stuff at the end, but you know, it
Speaker 2: was a big night for Bryce Elder and then victim
Speaker 2: Maderosh's probably gonna be in the one of the main
Speaker 2: topics tonight.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and that's that's exactly what we're gonna dicussing.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: We'll put it out there. While Stephen was out of town,
Speaker 1: that's when Austin Riley got hot. Stephen had direct instructions
Speaker 1: from yours truly to stay where he was just so
Speaker 1: Aliston and Riley could stay hot. But thankfully, thankfully, Austin
Speaker 1: Riley still looks locked in Stephen his back, so everybody's
Speaker 1: safe and sound. Stephen will go back to where he
Speaker 1: was if he has to to get Austin Riley hot.
Speaker 1: We'll just leave it.
Speaker 2: At that loud, But do I now I said gladly exactly.
Speaker 1: But first, what we're gonna do is we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about the hero of the night, basically the hero of
Speaker 1: the past few weeks. Maybe that's going too far, but
Speaker 1: we'll stick for tonight. We're gonna mix it up, engineered
Speaker 1: by Fasten All on one Victor Maderos look out show. Hey, O'tani,
Speaker 1: you officially have company. I know that Otani has rewrite
Speaker 1: the history books when it comes to being a two
Speaker 1: way player, but there currently is someone right now in
Speaker 1: baseball who has a higher career OPS than Otani and
Speaker 1: as of the past few weeks or so, has been
Speaker 1: just as good, if not better, when it comes to
Speaker 1: pitching on the mound, and that is Victor Madero's all
Speaker 1: hyperbole aside, Let's talk about Victor Madero's abit, Steven. If
Speaker 1: we go back ten or so days. I can't remember
Speaker 1: what game it was, but I do recall he may
Speaker 1: have been an opener in a game. I can't remember
Speaker 1: what it was, but I do recall in our chat,
Speaker 1: we have a four person chat with with Brad and Scott,
Speaker 1: Stephen and I and me and Scott basically made the
Speaker 1: same con I think in the chat nearly at the
Speaker 1: same time, but also on Twitter at the same time.
Speaker 1: There's some quality to this Victor Madero Scott and he's
Speaker 1: just continued to show what he can do on the mound,
Speaker 1: and tonight was the best example of that so far.
Speaker 1: On the night where the main parts of the current
Speaker 1: bullpen for the Graves were unavailable because they had gotten
Speaker 1: some big wins over the weekend, Victor Madaro stepped up
Speaker 1: after a big game from Bright Selder two point one.
Speaker 1: It needs to get another big win for the Braves
Speaker 1: and what felt like again a playoff game, but Victor
Speaker 1: Dario's is starting to show, Hey, this just is just
Speaker 1: isn't for show. There is some quality to his stuff,
Speaker 1: so much so I think he may be working himself
Speaker 1: into being a mainstay in this bullpen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so obviously tonight, because of how much the bullpen
Speaker 2: was used on Saturday and Sunday, starters didn't go very
Speaker 2: long in the game. Bullpen had to cover I think
Speaker 2: eleven of the eighteen innings if I remember correctly. Everybody
Speaker 2: knew that happened. Most of the bullpen pretty much all
Speaker 2: the highleverage guys are going to be out tonight, and
Speaker 2: so two questions were gonna be how deep into the
Speaker 2: game can Bryce Elder go? And I think he held
Speaker 2: up his in We're gonna talk about Bryce a little
Speaker 2: bit more later in one of the next segments. But
Speaker 2: then the next question was who's available and who you
Speaker 2: know who can close out this game if it's a
Speaker 2: close game. The offense didn't have a great night. Obviously,
Speaker 2: three runs is not, you know, an unbelievable night by
Speaker 2: any means. And it was a very close game. And
Speaker 2: so you know, Danny Young was the first guy to
Speaker 2: come in in the seventh when Elder went out, and
Speaker 2: I don't even think Danny Young finished that inning. I
Speaker 2: think he had a guy on third with two out,
Speaker 2: and Mandaros came in and pitched the seventh, pitched the eighth,
Speaker 2: and pitched the ninth and the eighth the ninth were
Speaker 2: against the top and middle of the order. And I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what, you know, I saw the interview he
Speaker 2: did with with Wiley Ballad right after the game where
Speaker 2: he said, you know, I didn't used to throw a
Speaker 2: four seam fastball. I threw mostly sinkers and cutters, and
Speaker 2: I got to the braves and you were like, dude,
Speaker 2: throw it like you throw one hundred throw it. And
Speaker 2: I think he threw his four seam fastball like fifty
Speaker 2: five percent of the time or sixty percent of the time,
Speaker 2: something like tonight. When you could throw that hard and
Speaker 2: listen that that like ninety two mile an hour cutter
Speaker 2: that he throws. When you throw ninety eight ninety nine
Speaker 2: whom cutter is tough to hit. I mean it's almost
Speaker 2: it almost works like a change up. The speed difference
Speaker 2: is so you know, drastic. Because he throws his four
Speaker 2: seam fastball so hard. I've been really impressed with the command.
Speaker 2: Usually a guy who throws that hard does not have
Speaker 2: great command, and he's really not had any trouble with that.
Speaker 2: It's incredible. The Braves got him. I don't know if
Speaker 2: people remember this, but the was the Braves got him
Speaker 2: in April. I think they made a trade with the
Speaker 2: Angels and sent back like international slot money. So this
Speaker 2: is a guy that's just sitting in the Angel. The Angels,
Speaker 2: you know, had this guy. He just tells you everything
Speaker 2: you need to know about the Angels right now. But
Speaker 2: they just had this guy sitting there, and the Braves like,
Speaker 2: oh no, we can get this guy to actually use
Speaker 2: his four seam fastball, and this guy could be like
Speaker 2: a weapon. And I looked at his Triple A numbers.
Speaker 2: His Triple A numbers weren't great. I don't know what
Speaker 2: was going on in Triple A. I mean they were average,
Speaker 2: they weren't great. But he's come up here and this
Speaker 2: dude is throwing one hundred with a cutter and a slider,
Speaker 2: striking people out. You look at his fangra or is
Speaker 2: a stat cast page. It all very real, like very real,
Speaker 2: nasty even, and I tweeted it out. This guy has
Speaker 2: suddenly become a very important arm. You know, the Brave's
Speaker 2: got another health a negative health update on one of
Speaker 2: their pictures. Today we're gonna talk about the end of
Speaker 2: the show. And so like guys like this coming up
Speaker 2: out of nowhere and just being this good like the
Speaker 2: Braves needed. He was kind of the MVP of the
Speaker 2: game today in my opinion, they really didn't have any
Speaker 2: of their main leaders available and he came in and
Speaker 2: just locked the game down with a one run league.
Speaker 2: So hats off to Victor Maderiro's that's awesome, and you know,
Speaker 2: the Braves real, I mean, this is a incredible trade
Speaker 2: by Alex and Thopplos quite honestly, and if this guy
Speaker 2: really is this good, it's a massive development in the
Speaker 2: Braves bullpen.
Speaker 1: And those are the type of things that you see
Speaker 1: in a lot of these teams here in recent years,
Speaker 1: where you get these unexpected guys that step up not
Speaker 1: necessarily to be the closer, you know, and you've got
Speaker 1: the you know, almost movie script type set up for
Speaker 1: him where they all of a sudden become the guy
Speaker 1: that closes out the games on a you know, deep
Speaker 1: playoff run, but just a guy who can fortify the
Speaker 1: back end of the bullpen, who can step up into
Speaker 1: a bigger role if he's needed. And Madero's has shown
Speaker 1: that he's got some quality of stuff. Now, the thing
Speaker 1: that I'll say is is that what many people may
Speaker 1: feel like, hey, this is maybe an older guy who's
Speaker 1: been a journeyman so on and so forth, Victor Maderos
Speaker 1: is twenty five years old. Like this is a young
Speaker 1: guy as well, and that's something that certainly stands out.
Speaker 1: And a couple of other elements to him that makes him,
Speaker 1: you know, not be like your traditional piece that Alexanthopolis
Speaker 1: has added. He legit is throwing one hundred miles per
Speaker 1: hour gas and it's the energy like this is. This
Speaker 1: is a dude who wants to yell on the mound
Speaker 1: and be intense and be excited. You saw his reaction
Speaker 1: when he got that too run double over the weekend.
Speaker 1: This is a guy who just he knows he's in
Speaker 1: an unexpected moment of positivity for him, Like he's you
Speaker 1: know that thing that they talk about, you know, all
Speaker 1: of the sudden, I don't know, I've become important at
Speaker 1: my job and I hate it. No, Victor Madiro's is
Speaker 1: living the dream of I've become important at my job
Speaker 1: and I'm absolutely loving it. And so the blosty, the
Speaker 1: energy that's added aspects of this bullpen that not everybody carries,
Speaker 1: and you haven't seen a lot in Braves bullpens in
Speaker 1: the past. That's the type of thing that can really
Speaker 1: step up. You have confidence when this guy takes the mound.
Speaker 1: And kudos to the Braves for giving for building up
Speaker 1: his high leverage situations so he could deliver in a
Speaker 1: moment where they really needed it tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, he barely pitched when he was with
Speaker 2: the Angels. He pitched like a couple of innings a
Speaker 2: year for like two or three years. But he's still
Speaker 2: got like five or six years of team control. Like
Speaker 2: this is not like a rental. I think he's only
Speaker 2: got like half a year of service time to his career.
Speaker 2: So I mean, the Braves have him for a long time.
Speaker 2: And obviously it's a reliever. You know, they they're good
Speaker 2: and then they're bad, and then they're good. Like you know,
Speaker 2: everybody knows with relievers, it's volatile. This could all go
Speaker 2: away next week for all ween Like that's just how
Speaker 2: relievers work. But like the stuff is real, Like you
Speaker 2: throw a hundred with a cutter and a slider, very clearly,
Speaker 2: guys have tough time barreling him up. He's getting strikeouts.
Speaker 2: Like it all looks real to me, So we'll see
Speaker 2: what happens. You know, Tyler Kinley has kind of fallen
Speaker 2: on hard times in terms of you know, the righty's
Speaker 2: out of the pen. Obviously it's you know, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a glacier since Suarez one too when Sorez gets back.
Speaker 2: But you know, it wouldn't stun me at all if
Speaker 2: Madero's at some point becomes like the next guy, you know,
Speaker 2: with Fintes. You know, Fintes has kind of taken on
Speaker 2: that role since Suarez has been out. But if you
Speaker 2: can run out a Glaciers, Suarez, Fintes and Madero's all
Speaker 2: from the right side in a playoff series and then
Speaker 2: ad Dylan Lee and Dylan Dodd, you know that's a
Speaker 2: damn good bull I mean, the Brades have had a
Speaker 2: good bullpen all year, but they've got and listen, Suarez
Speaker 2: can throw a hundred, Flintes can throw a hundred, Mandaro's
Speaker 2: can throw a hundred. Like it's a it's a it's
Speaker 2: an aspect they haven't had. They've had good bullpens, but
Speaker 2: they've never had like high velocity, good bullpen good bullpens.
Speaker 2: And this year I feel like they have that, and
Speaker 2: you know, it's exciting. It's a really big development for
Speaker 2: the Braves.
Speaker 1: I don't want to mention his name, but the one,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's a similar story. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna say it. This this almost has like bit of
Speaker 1: Tyler Matzick Fields too. Yet I don't want to sit
Speaker 1: here and like put that level of success story on
Speaker 1: Maderias yet because we're nowhere near there.
Speaker 2: But yes, I mean Matzik was a top prospect who
Speaker 2: got hurt and then came back. Madario's is probably a
Speaker 2: little bit more of out of nowhere, but yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean it's it's something similar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, of course, you know, Madera's is gonna
Speaker 1: have to show the track record. But the point is
Speaker 1: is that you know when you have that depth, and
Speaker 1: especially when you can mix in good control on you know,
Speaker 1: options like Dylan Lee as well as right so ell
Speaker 1: Iglesias with pure heat like you have with Suarez and Maderos,
Speaker 1: as well as one test let's not put the cart
Speaker 1: before the horse. There's good balance and good quality in
Speaker 1: that Brave Bullpen. Kudos to them for continuing to identify
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Speaker 1: And of course, the big thing for the Braves tonight
Speaker 1: was that, Okay, you won two out of three against
Speaker 1: the Rangers, and there was that disappointing loss on Saturday,
Speaker 1: but they were able to get the job done on Sunday.
Speaker 1: So you kind of were to the point with the
Speaker 1: Braves where over the past six weeks you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we've had we had this against the Brewers. I can't
Speaker 1: remember the other team that we had against, but we
Speaker 1: had a couple of these weekend series over the past
Speaker 1: month where they finally looked like they were getting out
Speaker 1: of their funk and then started the next week it
Speaker 1: was a letdown. Well, tonight they were able to do
Speaker 1: the job and perhaps besides Victor Maderos, nobody did a
Speaker 1: bigger job on a night where the Braves needed some
Speaker 1: extended innings than Bryce Elder getting back to how he
Speaker 1: looked in the first few months of the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know the story of the last I mean,
Speaker 2: really the last month and a half, that's been the
Speaker 2: rotation after Chris Sale, Like what does the rotation after
Speaker 2: Chris Sale look like? And it's been largely negative and
Speaker 2: a lot of it has been not only poor outings,
Speaker 2: but really short poor outings.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've lost count the number of times the
Speaker 2: Braves have had to do like a you know, a
Speaker 2: game where the bullpen covers six innings, five or six innings.
Speaker 2: It seems like every sales start or every non sales
Speaker 2: start there at least covering four innings, if not more so.
Speaker 2: And then and tonight it just wasn't an option. Like
Speaker 2: I actually believe that if Elder had given up like
Speaker 2: five runs in the first couple of innings, they would
Speaker 2: have just hung him out to dry tonight, like he
Speaker 2: was gonna throw six innings no matter what. Now, what
Speaker 2: he did was he turned around and he had a
Speaker 2: really strong game. And the Padres have been a team
Speaker 2: for the Braves that they have a real hard time with,
Speaker 2: especially Manny Machado. I don't know what the hell happens
Speaker 2: when Manny Minchado sees a Braves uniform, but that dude
Speaker 2: turns into bonds or pooholes like overnight, anytime the Braves
Speaker 2: come to their place or he comes here, like Mandon
Speaker 2: Minchaddo's not having a good year. But you would not
Speaker 2: know that if you're a Braves fan, because the dude
Speaker 2: hits a home run every game against the Braves. But
Speaker 2: you know, it was a couple of solo home runs
Speaker 2: tonight for the For the Padre they have not been
Speaker 2: playing well. They've actually really fallen on hard times lately.
Speaker 2: Their offense has had a really bad year, like stunningly
Speaker 2: bad year. I don't know what the hell has happened
Speaker 2: to Jackson Merrill, who looked like he was gonna be
Speaker 2: one of the best young players of baseball. He's really
Speaker 2: fallen on hard times. Tatis is having a weird year.
Speaker 2: And so it was a game where like a team
Speaker 2: that's not playing well, not great offensive baseball coming in,
Speaker 2: it was a game where Eldrick could really kind of
Speaker 2: get back on track a little bit. And you know,
Speaker 2: the boat has been taken on quite a bit of
Speaker 2: water lately for him, and you know, he did a
Speaker 2: nice job. It wasn't dominant, but you know, Elder starts
Speaker 2: are rarely dominant, but he stayed mostly out of the
Speaker 2: middle of the plate. You know, those two homerows he
Speaker 2: gave up were balls in the middle, and that's what
Speaker 2: happened anytime Bryce Elder throws the ball in the middle.
Speaker 2: Of the plate. You saw what happens with the Machado
Speaker 2: and the France home run, Like, that's what happens. He's
Speaker 2: got to stay out of the middle of the plate,
Speaker 2: and he did that for the most part tonight, and
Speaker 2: he gave him six incredibly valuable innings. They act she
Speaker 2: took him out of like seventy seven pitches. I thought
Speaker 2: adult Wat might let him go longer than that, just
Speaker 2: out of necessity. I was impressed that Walt actually pulled
Speaker 2: him when he did, because I do think he was
Speaker 2: running out of gas. But it was a big star
Speaker 2: for Bryce. You know, we've been critical of him lately,
Speaker 2: everybody has. He's been very bad lately. But tonight they
Speaker 2: needed at least six innings out of their starter and
Speaker 2: they got that, and it was a really good game
Speaker 2: from Bryce.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Just looking it up. Manny Machado, I don't know,
Speaker 1: can't do the exact number off the top of my head,
Speaker 1: but he has more than two hundred career play appearances
Speaker 1: against twenty plus current MLB teams. Only the Saint Louis
Speaker 1: Cardinals are he had the only team that he has
Speaker 1: a higher ops against than the Braves. Among those twenty teams,
Speaker 1: that he has two hundredlus plate appearances against is the
Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinals. Yeah, so, I mean it's a very
Speaker 1: true statement. But the big thing also that stands out,
Speaker 1: will call it that the Steven Tober specialty is this
Speaker 1: team is back to hitting home runs and they and
Speaker 1: they need to be because in games like this, which
Speaker 1: again seemed like a playoff game, despite who may have
Speaker 1: been on the mound for both teams, home runs matter.
Speaker 1: And even though Manny Machado got one, you know for
Speaker 1: the Padres, the Braves hit more home runs and that
Speaker 1: was the big difference in the game. That is a
Speaker 1: huge factor. It also helps that we're in this part
Speaker 1: of the season where some of the Brave's best bats
Speaker 1: are usually at their best. You look at the career numbers,
Speaker 1: you look at the career trends Michael Harris, Austin Riley
Speaker 1: as well as Matt Olson. Typically this the month of
Speaker 1: July or you know, the month the first month of
Speaker 1: the second half of the season. Historically, that's when those
Speaker 1: three guys really get going. And right now they are
Speaker 1: absolutely hitting the cover off the ball, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's great to see. For Riley, it's awesome to see
Speaker 1: Michael Harris putting together a solid campaign and Matt Olson
Speaker 1: just does Matt Olson things. But tonight, you know, Ozzie
Speaker 1: as well at times. But I really want to focus
Speaker 1: on Michael Harris. You know, he's just he's remained consistent.
Speaker 1: I know he fell off a bit, I believe, maybe
Speaker 1: towards the end of May, but he has just remained
Speaker 1: consistently good, even though he didn't make the All Star Game.
Speaker 1: Was certainly deserving and it's glad to see that he's
Speaker 1: picking right. He's picking up where he left off in
Speaker 1: the first half by having an unbelievable start for the second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been homers. I mean, it's just like I've
Speaker 2: lost how many times I've said this. It is the
Speaker 2: easiest way to score consistent, Like you know, tonight is
Speaker 2: a Tonight's game is actually a perfect example. The Braves
Speaker 2: didn't have a lot going tonight at all. You know,
Speaker 2: they had that one little rally with bart and Debond,
Speaker 2: you know, at the bottom of the order, Austin Riley
Speaker 2: had a couple of really hard hit balls in his
Speaker 2: first two of bats it could have been homers, but
Speaker 2: other than that, they didn't really have a lot going
Speaker 2: bald went over for four, also went oh for four.
Speaker 2: You know, games like that, it's gonna be tough for
Speaker 2: the Braves to score. Well, how did they score? They
Speaker 2: hit homers. They hit two homers. And the pitching obviously
Speaker 2: was the story tonight because they had you know, they
Speaker 2: were able to make three runs.
Speaker 1: Hold up.
Speaker 2: But this is how you win in the playoffs a lot.
Speaker 2: I mean, have you play a lot of three two
Speaker 2: games of the playoffs and you won because you hit homers,
Speaker 2: And you know, I will, I'll scream this until everybody
Speaker 2: like it is the most important part of offense because
Speaker 2: it is the most consistent when you get to October.
Speaker 2: It's the easiest way to score against really good pitching.
Speaker 2: Someone gets a walk, someone hits a home or boom,
Speaker 2: you had two runs, right, You don't have to hit
Speaker 2: you don't have to hit five singles in the same
Speaker 2: inning or a double, you know, two doubles, a single,
Speaker 2: a single, a walk, a double, Like streaking all those
Speaker 2: all the together is hard to do and it's very inconsistent.
Speaker 2: The easiest way to score is homers. And the Braves
Speaker 2: have gotten back, not just tonight, but you know, probably
Speaker 2: in July, really the month of July. I would say
Speaker 2: they've scored a lot of runs in July, Like they
Speaker 2: had the big game against they had the good big
Speaker 2: game against the Pirates. I think they had a couple
Speaker 2: big games against the Mets. They've scored double digit runs. Obviously,
Speaker 2: they just had the really big game against the Rangers
Speaker 2: where they won fifteen to one.
Speaker 1: So like.
Speaker 2: You know, they had eight runs I think on the
Speaker 2: Sunday game. So it's just been it's been exactly what
Speaker 2: we needed to see offensively, and this is without Acunya.
Speaker 2: But like Baldwin is back to hitting the way Baldwin
Speaker 2: can hit, Olsen's really been hitting all year. Michael Harris,
Speaker 2: like you just said, has been Probably you could make
Speaker 2: the argument because of how how hurt Akunya has been,
Speaker 2: how inconsistent Riley's been. You can make an argument that
Speaker 2: Michael Harris has been like the MVP of the team
Speaker 2: because if he doesn't do what he's done, it's just Baldwin,
Speaker 2: you know, Baldwin and Olsen and a little bit of Ozzie,
Speaker 2: and that's not enough. So, like Harris has been unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Ozzi had another homework tonight. Acuny is about to be back.
Speaker 2: I still want another bat. I still think they need
Speaker 2: another I think they need a DH I would love
Speaker 2: to just get an outfielder, quite honestly, so I think
Speaker 2: they need one more bat. But if Austin can keep
Speaker 2: hitting balls one hundred and six miles an hour like
Speaker 2: you did tonight and I know you're smiling listen, are
Speaker 2: not gonna do, Austin Riley. I need to see it
Speaker 2: for at least like a couple of weeks, Like one
Speaker 2: or two games is not gonna get me excited, Like
Speaker 2: I need to see show me for like two weeks
Speaker 2: that you can keep. Tonight was a good night for him.
Speaker 2: I know he didn't have a hit, but like you,
Speaker 2: he barreled two ball. You barrel two balls every night.
Speaker 2: You'll get me back on like the Austin Riley train.
Speaker 2: We need to see it from an extended period before
Speaker 2: I get too excited. But like, yeah, there is very
Speaker 2: much a world where this is a very very good offense. Again,
Speaker 2: a Cunue is going to be back anytime, maybe this week.
Speaker 2: You know, I do think they might add a bad
Speaker 2: at the deadline. Like there's a world where it's a
Speaker 2: very good offense. And the key to the whole thing
Speaker 2: is home.
Speaker 1: Runs, absolutely, And you know, the think about offense is
Speaker 1: is that you know you're as much as you're pitching.
Speaker 1: You know, could struggle at times if you're consistently again,
Speaker 1: you know, as much as Steven has said home runs,
Speaker 1: it's kind of our we have our own individual way
Speaker 1: of saying the same things. It's consistently scoring runs and
Speaker 1: the easiest way possible. He'll mention home runs. I'll mention
Speaker 1: the success when they score five plus runs, though they've
Speaker 1: fallen on hard times here recently. When it comes to
Speaker 1: scoring five plus runs, you want to make it seven
Speaker 1: to eight consistently. That makes it even easier. More consistently
Speaker 1: the offense is the a bit easier it is to
Speaker 1: manage the pitching situation. Because unfortunately, while we were going
Speaker 1: for a stretch there, you know, some pretty positive pitchy
Speaker 1: news here, over the past couple of days, the pitchy
Speaker 1: news has not been that great. You know, for some
Speaker 1: some options that we had hoped would return as the
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Speaker 1: So again, Steve, when we talk about the fact that
Speaker 1: at the major league label, we're starting to see a
Speaker 1: little bit of inaklean of improvement. You know, obviously sales
Speaker 1: been sale, but Bryce Elvert Tonight, Renald Lopez has been
Speaker 1: pretty impressive in recent starts at Levey Struggle one. Our
Speaker 1: team Pez likely will be hopefully coming back later on
Speaker 1: this week. So so we're getting, you know, some guys
Speaker 1: who can kind of hold their own until maybe some
Speaker 1: reinforcements starts to the trade downline. More on that in
Speaker 1: just a moment. But the unfortunate thing is is that
Speaker 1: we got some unexpected news on Hirst and Waldrop over
Speaker 1: the past twenty four hours. I'll let you go into
Speaker 1: it a bit more in detail, but it's just it's
Speaker 1: another example of you know, yes, the Braves I believe
Speaker 1: overall in terms of development, have been pretty consistent at
Speaker 1: developing intriguing arms. That all just I know Waldrop is
Speaker 1: that all just are not first round talents. But unfortunately
Speaker 1: that injury bug keeps hitting and now we're getting to
Speaker 1: the point to where for some of these pictures it's
Speaker 1: multiple times in less than a twelve month period.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so obviously Hurston's just had a kind of a
Speaker 2: year from hell. Yeah, you know, he came in, he
Speaker 2: had a really strong end of last year, and you know,
Speaker 2: he kind of came up unexpectedly in that Bristol Motorsports game,
Speaker 2: pitched really well, really earned a rotation spot because everybody
Speaker 2: else was hurt and he was pitching really well, and
Speaker 2: it got people excited. You know, herson's a first round pick,
Speaker 2: really high pedigree out of Florida, Like there was a
Speaker 2: lot of excitement about him when the Braves drafted him,
Speaker 2: so you know, they're going to give him every chance
Speaker 2: in the world to be successful. Coming into this year,
Speaker 2: that people thought maybe, you know, he could be a
Speaker 2: day one rotation guy, like right out of spring training
Speaker 2: and have a rotation spot. And we got to spring
Speaker 2: and he just immediately boom, he had I think he
Speaker 2: was the loose bodies in the elbow and he had
Speaker 2: the surgery, of course, and he was out for like
Speaker 2: four months, did the long road back, just got back
Speaker 2: in the last like few weeks and then boom. We
Speaker 2: got a report today that he actually removed himself from
Speaker 2: his start in Gwinette after thirty six pitches because his
Speaker 2: arm hurt, and you know they you know, Walt obviously
Speaker 2: was talking to the beat guys and was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just it's never good when a picture takes himself
Speaker 2: out of a game because it's arm Hertz. They're gonna,
Speaker 2: you know, obviously get everything looked at the way Walt
Speaker 2: actually was. I saw the the interview. The way Walt
Speaker 2: was talking, it did not seem like the most pot
Speaker 2: Like sometimes you can tell like if if they feel good,
Speaker 2: they feel neutral, if they if they don't feel great
Speaker 2: about it. The way he was talking, it didn't seem
Speaker 2: like they felt great about it.
Speaker 1: So the Eman's article kind of echoed that as well
Speaker 1: when he talked about Walker today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bowman said, you know, it's likely out for
Speaker 2: the season. Some of that is just where we are
Speaker 2: in the calendar, Like if they have to shut him down,
Speaker 2: like he doesn't have time to build back up, and
Speaker 2: then it's almost not worth it at that point, like
Speaker 2: where we are in the calendar, any sort of injury
Speaker 2: at all to the arm and it's you know, it's
Speaker 2: gonna end to your season just because of it. You know,
Speaker 2: it's we're we're not far away from August at this point.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it sucks. It's all gonna come down to
Speaker 2: what the diagnosis. Is it more loose bodies, is it
Speaker 2: something more significant. You know, we're not gonna speculate because
Speaker 2: obviously elbows can range anywhere from day to day to
Speaker 2: eighteen months and anywhere in between. So we're not gonna speculate.
Speaker 2: We're gonna let the news come out. But yeah, it
Speaker 2: was a bummer because it effectively ends Waldrop's season because
Speaker 2: I mean, they're gonna shut him down for some period
Speaker 2: and he's very he's gonna have very little time to
Speaker 2: ramp back up. So it was just kind of crappy
Speaker 2: news today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and when you kind of broaden the
Speaker 1: picture a bit, it starts to get a bit bleak.
Speaker 1: When you're looking at the you know, most recent wave
Speaker 1: of braves right handed pictures who have come to the majors,
Speaker 1: you know more in that that, you know, twenty two,
Speaker 1: twenty three to twenty five range, and all of them
Speaker 1: showed initial success at some point, but now all of them,
Speaker 1: Stephen have either had Tommy John surgery or have had
Speaker 1: multiple significant absences due to arm injuries. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know that the Spincher Scrollerblock, it's been more than he
Speaker 1: year since he's pitched because of multiple injuries. Hirst and Waldrop,
Speaker 1: maybe you know now looking at I don't I'm not
Speaker 1: going to speculate. He's obviously seeing multiple injuries. Stryder has
Speaker 1: seen it, and Smith Jobber's coming back from it. Six
Speaker 1: months ago, even we were looking at this like, you know,
Speaker 1: if we could just get through this year, we're all
Speaker 1: of them are healthy, we could because he's a really
Speaker 1: intriguing death in our starting rotation now in the year,
Speaker 1: because because you don't know if Spincer swelling Box is
Speaker 1: gonna be able to you know, come into where cold
Speaker 1: look at look at what happened to Stryder after his
Speaker 1: you know one injury, Spincher Schwellerbox. It may be sometime
Speaker 1: in twenty seven before he pitches at the major league
Speaker 1: level again. Unfortunately, that wave of Braves pitching that seems
Speaker 1: so intriguing even twelve months ago, it's pretty bleak out
Speaker 1: there now did injuries Unfortunately, it's just it's unfortunate to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they've had, I mean they've had an insane
Speaker 2: rash of injuries. You just mentioned Strider, Schwellenbach, waldrop A,
Speaker 2: mischall are all with elbow something. Ronald Lopez missed an
Speaker 2: entire year with a shoulder and really he's never really
Speaker 2: been the same. He's been decent lately. You know, Grant
Speaker 2: Holmes had the elbow scare stuff last year, and he's
Speaker 2: been able to pitch this year at a pretty consistent level.
Speaker 2: Like Grant, it's a reliever, everybody knows that, but obviously
Speaker 2: they need him as a starter right now. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just been an insane amount of injuries. And you know,
Speaker 2: some of it is and I've talked about this before,
Speaker 2: like the sport as a whole is just not very
Speaker 2: good at keeping pitchers healthy. Like we've tried everything.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just.
Speaker 2: A violent like pitching is just a violent motion on
Speaker 2: your arm, Like it's not really good for your arm.
Speaker 2: So it's just about managing the violence essentially, is what
Speaker 2: you know, trying to keep pictures healthy is. And you know,
Speaker 2: nobody has figured it out, and unfortunately for the Braves.
Speaker 2: And this is why I went on that ran a
Speaker 2: few weeks ago about when they're healthy, pitch him because
Speaker 2: the odds of them staying healthy, are you keeping them healthy?
Speaker 2: Are not great? Just aren't. And this is why, like
Speaker 2: the old adage of baseball, there's no such thing as
Speaker 2: a pitching prospect, because like you know if you have
Speaker 2: if you have ten of them, a third of them
Speaker 2: are gonna get hurt, a third of them are never
Speaker 2: gonna pan out, and maybe you get one or two
Speaker 2: that actually, you know, the Braves went through this with
Speaker 2: Max Freed, like they had a million pitching prospects back
Speaker 2: in the early like you know, John Coppola days, Like
Speaker 2: literally you could list them off for like two minutes
Speaker 2: and not get to the end of the list. They
Speaker 2: had like twenty plus really good pitching prospects and basically
Speaker 2: the only one that's turned into a like really consistent
Speaker 2: major league starter has been Max Free And you know
Speaker 2: that's that's pitching prospects for you. So it sucks. It
Speaker 2: really sucks for the guys individually, because of course these
Speaker 2: guys don't want to be hurt. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: it's just part of dealing with a very violent motion
Speaker 2: on a very sensitive part of the body.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And with that being said, you know, if the
Speaker 1: it just makes the need to look externally, you know,
Speaker 1: become even more of a likely preference. And you know,
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Speaker 1: Alex and Topless in multiple in multiple conversations over the
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Speaker 1: So Steve and it's good to see the Braves playing
Speaker 1: good ball again. But one thing that I think that
Speaker 1: needs to be noted about kind of where we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about multiple things when it comes to the
Speaker 1: standings here over the next few minutes. One of the
Speaker 1: things that I think stands out for the Braves is
Speaker 1: that they're now four and a half games out of
Speaker 1: the second best record in the National League, which means
Speaker 1: that it's pretty clear that they're going to be playing
Speaker 1: in that wildcard round. What does that mean, Well, that
Speaker 1: means you're not going to have a four or five
Speaker 1: six day window where you can really try to set
Speaker 1: your pitching with you know, internal options that you currently have,
Speaker 1: because you're gonna have to use them in at least
Speaker 1: two plus games. Then you would kind of hope for
Speaker 1: in the first two months of the season. So what
Speaker 1: does that mean the need for pitching becomes even higher,
Speaker 1: and that obviously is on the radar right that that
Speaker 1: obviously is what the Braves need. They need another legitimate starter.
Speaker 1: Nobody in the world knows that more than Alex and
Speaker 1: thoughtless he admitted that as much. But the interesting thing
Speaker 1: that he did say, again, if you go back and
Speaker 1: listen to the interviews, a lot of it is just
Speaker 1: you know him, you know, just basically saying a lot
Speaker 1: of words, but with not really giving you any insight.
Speaker 1: But one thing that he did kind of hit on
Speaker 1: was that while they do acknowledge that's clearly what they need,
Speaker 1: that's clearly what they want. There's a lot of other
Speaker 1: teams that want that as well. But where you kind
Speaker 1: of have to pivot at times is in what way
Speaker 1: can I improve my team the most? And that kind
Speaker 1: of to me makes it where, yeah, they're going to
Speaker 1: do everything they can to get that starter. I think
Speaker 1: they're eventually going to get a starter or two former fashion,
Speaker 1: but we may see a bit of an unorthodox move
Speaker 1: that could improve maybe the bullpen or the offense to
Speaker 1: really try to make one of those aspects of the teams.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know if Alex has like a
Speaker 2: quota of number of interviews he has to do in
Speaker 2: a year and he decided, like, screw it, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: do like five of them in a row. It seems
Speaker 2: like he's interviewed with everybody of the last like three days,
Speaker 2: and you know, I found it very funny and very
Speaker 2: on brand that in every single interview it seems like
Speaker 2: he highlighted a different part of the team as like
Speaker 2: the area like Rosenthal had a report about how the
Speaker 2: brains were really focused on offense instead of pitching. And
Speaker 2: then the next day Alex does an interview and he
Speaker 2: focuses much more on starters and relievers than offense. And
Speaker 2: then he does another interview where he talks about the
Speaker 2: whole damn team like it's it's just very on brand.
Speaker 2: It's why I don't really bother with any of it,
Speaker 2: because one, Alex has always shown that even if a
Speaker 2: team has a very clear need, if they can't get
Speaker 2: that need, they will go and prove the team elsewhere
Speaker 2: to try to make up for the fact that they
Speaker 2: couldn't get exactly what they needed. So that opens up everything, right,
Speaker 2: Two Alex doesn't even know who's available yet because teams
Speaker 2: themselves are not declaring. I mean, we still got what
Speaker 2: two weeks to the deadline, right at two weeks, I think,
Speaker 2: and so like teams don't have to decide today. They
Speaker 2: can wait and see if they've got a six game
Speaker 2: winning streak. You know, if you'd asked the Boston Red
Speaker 2: Sox fourteen games ago what they were gonna do, they
Speaker 2: would have told you they were gonna sell. Well, they've
Speaker 2: just won fourteen straight games, and now they're very much
Speaker 2: gonna buy because they're you know, they're very much in
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I think they're in the playoffs right now
Speaker 2: if they started today. So, you know, teams just aren't
Speaker 2: ready to declare. And I think there I think Alex
Speaker 2: said it on his radio show today, they're right now.
Speaker 2: There's pretty clearly seven sellers right now, Like if you
Speaker 2: look at the standings, very very easily seven sellers. There's
Speaker 2: a very good chance we could get that number to
Speaker 2: like ten, And I think that's the number, Like, if
Speaker 2: you can get to at least ten, like obviously twelve
Speaker 2: fifteen would be ideal where it's equal number of buyers
Speaker 2: and sellers. But even if you can get to double digits,
Speaker 2: I think you can at least make some reasonable moves.
Speaker 2: So it's just gonna all be about over the next
Speaker 2: basically week, this week, this next seven days, how these
Speaker 2: teams do. The Red Sox going bananas actually helps the
Speaker 2: Braves in a way because they have made it where
Speaker 2: all the teams behind them. The Red Sox are currently
Speaker 2: the third wild card in the American League, and because
Speaker 2: they just never lose anymore, all the teams behind them
Speaker 2: have found themselves four or five, six, seven games back
Speaker 2: of the playoff spot all of a sudden, like the
Speaker 2: Red Sox going nuclear could actually be very beneficial for
Speaker 2: the Braves, even though obviously the Braves we're hoping that
Speaker 2: maybe they could get some of the Red Sox players
Speaker 2: at some point. Obviously we talked a lot about Sunny Gray.
Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen anymore. But them winning at the
Speaker 2: level they have might actually push some other teams to sell,
Speaker 2: which would help. We need that same thing to happen
Speaker 2: in the National League. Right now, there's five playoff teams
Speaker 2: very clearly in the National League, the Dodgers, the Brewers,
Speaker 2: the Braves, Afhillies, and the Cubs, those have kind of
Speaker 2: separated themselves. Unfortunately, that sixth team has not appeared yet,
Speaker 2: and that has left everybody feeling like they've got a chance, right,
Speaker 2: Like teams like the Padres and the Diamondbacks and the
Speaker 2: Cardinals and the Nationals, like we needed one of those
Speaker 2: teams to kind of take off, and that really hasn't happened,
Speaker 2: and so that's gonna muddy the waters. So it's all
Speaker 2: gonna come down to who is actually gonna sell. Over
Speaker 2: the next two weeks and the next seven days, we'll
Speaker 2: decide a lot of that. So yeah, I mean, he's
Speaker 2: just gonna have to wait and see who's available. But
Speaker 2: there is no out. In my mind, the braves number
Speaker 2: one need is a a very clear number two starter,
Speaker 2: someone who is very obviously going to take Game two
Speaker 2: that the Braves have to be in that Wildcard round.
Speaker 2: Chris Sale pitches Game one, player X pitches in Game two,
Speaker 2: no questions asked. That is the braves number one need.
Speaker 2: It has been for over a year now, and you
Speaker 2: know that's going to be the main focus.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, And you know, with that being said,
Speaker 5: while the landscape of what exactly is going to be
Speaker 5: out there, for the trade deadline is still very much
Speaker 5: in a fog.
Speaker 1: We're starting to see a few teams coming to focus.
Speaker 1: You know, we've seen the Reds basically kind of you know,
Speaker 1: put it out there that you know they're willing to sell.
Speaker 1: You know, they're wanting to do it in layers, okay, whatever.
Speaker 1: We're seeing reports that the Angels are starting to potentially
Speaker 1: be willing to sell. The Royals would would naturally be
Speaker 1: someone that would you know, want to do that as well.
Speaker 1: And what stands out about those three teams is that
Speaker 1: some of their most obvious trade candidates are actually options
Speaker 1: that are controllable versus rentals. And that's something that I
Speaker 1: think the brains need to focus on. If the Braves
Speaker 1: are going to go get a number two starter, they
Speaker 1: also need someone that can be in the rotation going
Speaker 1: forward beyond twenty twenty six. The biggest reason why is
Speaker 1: because with what we mentioned in the last segment, with
Speaker 1: a lot of your internal options that you thought were
Speaker 1: gonna be ready for years to come, that's not the
Speaker 1: case right now. And so if they can find a
Speaker 1: controllable option that makes sense. Read debtmers Jose Soreon and
Speaker 1: Michael Waka SETH logo names like that are going to
Speaker 1: be out there, so the Braves need to go out
Speaker 1: there and get them. And so while overall great options
Speaker 1: may not be there as number two starters, there could
Speaker 1: be several different options. The Braves could choose room in
Speaker 1: terms of controllable, intriguing starters, and that may be worth
Speaker 1: paying a decent price to go get.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's just gonna be about who's available.
Speaker 2: Like there's a word where Schooble is still available. By
Speaker 2: the way, Like there's a world I think the Twins
Speaker 2: have lost three in a row. There's a world where
Speaker 2: Joe Ryan is available. There's a world where neither of
Speaker 2: those guys is available. There's a world where Miami looked
Speaker 2: like they were gonna buy a week ago, but they've
Speaker 2: lost like seven in a row. So like if Miami
Speaker 2: really goes in the tank, Miami could sell. Like it's
Speaker 2: it's kind of on a knife s edge right now,
Speaker 2: Like there's just so many teams that could go one
Speaker 2: way or the other that is going to drastically change
Speaker 2: the market, and so it's you know, it's it's not
Speaker 2: even really possible to I said this earlier. I don't
Speaker 2: even think Alex knows the names of who's available, and
Speaker 2: I think he said in the interview today like he's
Speaker 2: been given a list of the players who are available
Speaker 2: right now. That list is going to drastically change over
Speaker 2: the next seven days. So there's just no way to guess.
Speaker 2: And there's probably guys that we would be surprised. I've
Speaker 2: seen in the past we're contenders, will sell and by
Speaker 2: at the same time, I've seen we're sellers also by
Speaker 2: Like it's just you never know what's going on in
Speaker 2: the front office. Who needs to clear money, who doesn't.
Speaker 2: You know a lot of these teams get to this
Speaker 2: point and they realize they're not going to make a
Speaker 2: playoff run last year, And I've used this exam before
Speaker 2: last year, no one had any idea at this point,
Speaker 2: two weeks out from the deadline that the Twins we're
Speaker 2: gonna sell everybody. No one saw a fire cell from
Speaker 2: the Twins coming at this point last year. That could
Speaker 2: happen with some team we're not even thinking about right now,
Speaker 2: where an owner just says, you know what, we've tried
Speaker 2: with this cord. It's not working. We're gonna do a
Speaker 2: hard reset and we're gonna start right now. So you know,
Speaker 2: there's just too much uncertainty to even try to guess
Speaker 2: who the names you're gonna be. All we can kind
Speaker 2: of guess on is conceptionally who it's going to be.
Speaker 2: And I heard Alex say today that he believes the
Speaker 2: playoffs are built around pitching. I heard him say that today,
Speaker 2: And I believe the playoffs are built around pitching as well.
Speaker 2: I would say pitching in homers or is what wins
Speaker 2: in the postseason. And they need one. They everyone on
Speaker 2: God's Green Earth knows the Braves need one more really
Speaker 2: good starter. They don't need three guys, they just need
Speaker 2: one more. They need one very clear playoff caliber starter.
Speaker 2: And that's going to be the question. I think they
Speaker 2: need more. I think they need a bat. I can
Speaker 2: make the case they need two bats. I think they
Speaker 2: need a DH because Dom Smith has kind of turned
Speaker 2: back into Dom Smith. But more than all of that,
Speaker 2: they need one high level playoff starter. And you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of this deadline is going
Speaker 2: to be graded on that basis do they get that guy?
Speaker 1: And and we've heard you know the fact, you know,
Speaker 1: when when the Tigers and the Red Sox were struggling.
Speaker 1: We heard the Braves were you know, quote unquote. I
Speaker 1: think it was more because it just made sense and
Speaker 1: it was you know, actual reporting. You know, the Braves
Speaker 1: are you know, easily in on Schooble. The Braves are
Speaker 1: easily in on Sunny Gray. Those are the type of
Speaker 1: guys that you know, really fall in mind to be
Speaker 1: that number two starter. Yeah. The problem is is that
Speaker 1: while they need that, it's going to be very hard
Speaker 1: to find if there are a limited number of sellers.
Speaker 1: There's a reason why those teams are sellers. It's because
Speaker 1: they don't have options that are that great. So the
Speaker 1: last thing they'll end on is I threw out on
Speaker 1: Twitter today that what I felt like a pretty straightforward
Speaker 1: deal for the Braves could be though I know it's
Speaker 1: the Mets. When I said straightforward, I was meaning, this
Speaker 1: is a combo deal that can you know, if Alex
Speaker 1: really prefers pitching, this is a combo deal that can
Speaker 1: at least check the boxes, you know, in several ways
Speaker 1: to just make things better. Freddy Peralta, as well as
Speaker 1: AJ Mentor Agent Mentor, is having a pretty decent season.
Speaker 1: Reddy Parolta is not. He has struggled but he has
Speaker 1: a good track record, but the main focus of that
Speaker 1: obviously is Paralta. The one thing that I will say
Speaker 1: is this is that you're probably not going to find
Speaker 1: that clear number two bona fide starter that you want
Speaker 1: out there at this trade deadline. You're just probably not
Speaker 1: because that type of pitcher is probably helping their own
Speaker 1: teams stay in quote unquote contention. So what do you
Speaker 1: do next? You yet pick from the plethora of struggling
Speaker 1: pitchers that are available for a profile that you feel
Speaker 1: can have some quick turnaround to really help out. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't want a reclamation project. There's our main get
Speaker 1: when it comes to a starting pitcher. But if that's
Speaker 1: all that's out there, it's hard to create your perfect
Speaker 1: picture out of than air. So at that point you
Speaker 1: kind of got to go with the track record. Like,
Speaker 1: if a guy's struggling this year, what makes me more
Speaker 1: confident in him that he'll be able to bounce back
Speaker 1: previous years where he was really good. So finding that
Speaker 1: number two starter, that bona fide number two starter is
Speaker 1: probably going to be hard to do because just from
Speaker 1: lack of options. So maybe you can go get one
Speaker 1: or two guys whose profiles you like that are struggling,
Speaker 1: and one of those guys can eventually become that, you know,
Speaker 1: number two guy after sale. That's not ideal, But as
Speaker 1: Alex and Thopplis said multiple times again today, you can
Speaker 1: only go with what's available, and that may be all
Speaker 1: that's available at this deadline.
Speaker 2: Well, and that also highlights like you really need to
Speaker 2: do more in the offseason. Like right, like, I'm i
Speaker 2: there's a nice way to say this and a not
Speaker 2: nice way to say that. I'm gonna try to find
Speaker 2: the nice way to say I don't really have any
Speaker 2: interest in hearing about how hard it is to acquire
Speaker 2: pitching at the deadline because and how much easier it
Speaker 2: is to acquire in the off season because you didn't
Speaker 2: really acquire any pitching in the off season either, So like, yes,
Speaker 2: obviously it's very hard to acquire pitching right now. That's
Speaker 2: why it's so important to do it in the off
Speaker 2: season when everybody and their mother was screaming for you
Speaker 2: to go add some So like, yeah, it's tough, but
Speaker 2: it's tough because you made it tough because you didn't
Speaker 2: do you know, there should have been more added and
Speaker 2: the team is very good don't get me wrong. The
Speaker 2: team is very good, and I'm actually really high on
Speaker 2: the offense, in the in the bullpen, especially when a
Speaker 2: Coune comes back, and especially if they can add one
Speaker 2: more bat. But like, yeah, that's why it's so important
Speaker 2: to add, you know, your your big arms in the
Speaker 2: off season because we get to this point. The third
Speaker 2: playoff spot in both leagues has made the try deadline
Speaker 2: very difficult because there's just so many teams that still
Speaker 2: believe they're in it, and there's not a lot of
Speaker 2: pitching and everybody needs pitching and it's gonna be expensive,
Speaker 2: and like, yeah, I mean you kind of put yourself
Speaker 2: in this position, so you know, but they need a
Speaker 2: I mean, they need a guy, there's no doubt, and
Speaker 2: I have no idea who it'll be. You know, I
Speaker 2: don't think Buster Posey is particularly good at his job.
Speaker 2: I think he's pretty terrible at it. Honestly, I would
Speaker 2: keep calling the Giants about Logan Web and just see
Speaker 2: if one day they say, yes, I know they said
Speaker 2: early on they're not gonna sell them. But again, I
Speaker 2: don't think Buster is very good at this so but yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll see what it is. But they need another they
Speaker 2: need another frontline guy. I mean, that's just the clearest
Speaker 2: need and has been for a while.
Speaker 1: So Unfortunately, what this basically means is that it's probably
Speaker 1: still gonna be another ten days or so before we
Speaker 1: get even tack of clarity on what moved the Braves
Speaker 1: are gonna make. But hey, if the offense wants to
Speaker 1: keep rolling until then, we want to keep on winning
Speaker 1: to give us even more reason to really invest in pitching,
Speaker 1: Let's do that. You can find Steven Tobert at b
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