WEBVTT - Mederos Mania Has Arrived in Atlanta 

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome one and all to the Hemmer Territory Podcast. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is Sean Coleman. Hope, wherever you are and wherever

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<v Speaker 1>you are listening, you are having a great start to

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<v Speaker 1>your week. The Brains certainly are carrying over the momentum

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<v Speaker 1>that they started off the second half of the season with.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the weekend they were able to pull off another

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<v Speaker 1>victory thanks to some clutch hitting, but even more so

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe unexpected but outstanding performance from one Victor Verderis.

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<v Speaker 1>More on that in just a moment, but first we

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<v Speaker 1>have to welcome back one of the best when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to breaking down the Brains, my podcast host, your

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<v Speaker 1>friend of mine, the one and Steven Tolbert, back in

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<v Speaker 1>Braves Country. Welcome back, sir, good to see you as always.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up, buddy, it's been a minute, it's been about

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<v Speaker 2>a week. I just got home actually today tonight. The

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<v Speaker 2>first thing I did was turned on the game. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been tracking the team a little bit over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't plugged in a ton I know they won

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<v Speaker 2>the series, but and I know, you know, the offense

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<v Speaker 2>looked great, and the and the pitching and starting pitching

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<v Speaker 2>specifically looked a little shaky after sale. What else is new?

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<v Speaker 2>And so tonight, you know it was gonna be all

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<v Speaker 2>about Bryce Elder and how long he could go. The

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<v Speaker 2>Braves were obviously gonna be very short in the bullpen

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<v Speaker 2>because they had covered so many innings the last two games.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, the game is gonna be the main

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<v Speaker 2>topic of this pod. We're gonna talk about some injury stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>some trade stuff at the end, but you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a big night for Bryce Elder and then victim

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<v Speaker 2>Maderosh's probably gonna be in the one of the main

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<v Speaker 2>topics tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and that's that's exactly what we're gonna dicussing.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll put it out there. While Stephen was out of town,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when Austin Riley got hot. Stephen had direct instructions

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<v Speaker 1>from yours truly to stay where he was just so

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<v Speaker 1>Aliston and Riley could stay hot. But thankfully, thankfully, Austin

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<v Speaker 1>Riley still looks locked in Stephen his back, so everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>safe and sound. Stephen will go back to where he

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<v Speaker 1>was if he has to to get Austin Riley hot.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll just leave it.

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<v Speaker 2>At that loud, But do I now I said gladly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, what we're gonna do is we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the hero of the night, basically the hero of

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<v Speaker 1>the past few weeks. Maybe that's going too far, but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll stick for tonight. We're gonna mix it up, engineered

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<v Speaker 1>by Fasten All on one Victor Maderos look out show. Hey, O'tani,

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<v Speaker 1>you officially have company. I know that Otani has rewrite

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<v Speaker 1>the history books when it comes to being a two

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<v Speaker 1>way player, but there currently is someone right now in

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<v Speaker 1>baseball who has a higher career OPS than Otani and

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<v Speaker 1>as of the past few weeks or so, has been

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<v Speaker 1>just as good, if not better, when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>pitching on the mound, and that is Victor Madero's all

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<v Speaker 1>hyperbole aside, Let's talk about Victor Madero's abit, Steven. If

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<v Speaker 1>we go back ten or so days. I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>what game it was, but I do recall he may

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<v Speaker 1>have been an opener in a game. I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>what it was, but I do recall in our chat,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a four person chat with with Brad and Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen and I and me and Scott basically made the

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<v Speaker 1>same con I think in the chat nearly at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, but also on Twitter at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some quality to this Victor Madero Scott and he's

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<v Speaker 1>just continued to show what he can do on the mound,

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<v Speaker 1>and tonight was the best example of that so far.

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<v Speaker 1>On the night where the main parts of the current

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<v Speaker 1>bullpen for the Graves were unavailable because they had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>some big wins over the weekend, Victor Madaro stepped up

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<v Speaker 1>after a big game from Bright Selder two point one.

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<v Speaker 1>It needs to get another big win for the Braves

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<v Speaker 1>and what felt like again a playoff game, but Victor

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<v Speaker 1>Dario's is starting to show, Hey, this just is just

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<v Speaker 1>isn't for show. There is some quality to his stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>so much so I think he may be working himself

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<v Speaker 1>into being a mainstay in this bullpen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so obviously tonight, because of how much the bullpen

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<v Speaker 2>was used on Saturday and Sunday, starters didn't go very

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<v Speaker 2>long in the game. Bullpen had to cover I think

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<v Speaker 2>eleven of the eighteen innings if I remember correctly. Everybody

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<v Speaker 2>knew that happened. Most of the bullpen pretty much all

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<v Speaker 2>the highleverage guys are going to be out tonight, and

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<v Speaker 2>so two questions were gonna be how deep into the

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<v Speaker 2>game can Bryce Elder go? And I think he held

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<v Speaker 2>up his in We're gonna talk about Bryce a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more later in one of the next segments. But

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<v Speaker 2>then the next question was who's available and who you

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<v Speaker 2>know who can close out this game if it's a

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<v Speaker 2>close game. The offense didn't have a great night. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>three runs is not, you know, an unbelievable night by

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<v Speaker 2>any means. And it was a very close game. And

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, Danny Young was the first guy to

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<v Speaker 2>come in in the seventh when Elder went out, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think Danny Young finished that inning. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he had a guy on third with two out,

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<v Speaker 2>and Mandaros came in and pitched the seventh, pitched the eighth,

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<v Speaker 2>and pitched the ninth and the eighth the ninth were

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<v Speaker 2>against the top and middle of the order. And I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what, you know, I saw the interview he

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<v Speaker 2>did with with Wiley Ballad right after the game where

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<v Speaker 2>he said, you know, I didn't used to throw a

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<v Speaker 2>four seam fastball. I threw mostly sinkers and cutters, and

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<v Speaker 2>I got to the braves and you were like, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>throw it like you throw one hundred throw it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think he threw his four seam fastball like fifty

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<v Speaker 2>five percent of the time or sixty percent of the time,

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<v Speaker 2>something like tonight. When you could throw that hard and

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<v Speaker 2>listen that that like ninety two mile an hour cutter

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<v Speaker 2>that he throws. When you throw ninety eight ninety nine

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<v Speaker 2>whom cutter is tough to hit. I mean it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>it almost works like a change up. The speed difference

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<v Speaker 2>is so you know, drastic. Because he throws his four

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<v Speaker 2>seam fastball so hard. I've been really impressed with the command.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually a guy who throws that hard does not have

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<v Speaker 2>great command, and he's really not had any trouble with that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's incredible. The Braves got him. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>people remember this, but the was the Braves got him

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<v Speaker 2>in April. I think they made a trade with the

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<v Speaker 2>Angels and sent back like international slot money. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is a guy that's just sitting in the Angel. The Angels,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, had this guy. He just tells you everything

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<v Speaker 2>you need to know about the Angels right now. But

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<v Speaker 2>they just had this guy sitting there, and the Braves like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, we can get this guy to actually use

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<v Speaker 2>his four seam fastball, and this guy could be like

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<v Speaker 2>a weapon. And I looked at his Triple A numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>His Triple A numbers weren't great. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>was going on in Triple A. I mean they were average,

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't great. But he's come up here and this

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<v Speaker 2>dude is throwing one hundred with a cutter and a slider,

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<v Speaker 2>striking people out. You look at his fangra or is

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<v Speaker 2>a stat cast page. It all very real, like very real,

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<v Speaker 2>nasty even, and I tweeted it out. This guy has

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly become a very important arm. You know, the Brave's

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<v Speaker 2>got another health a negative health update on one of

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<v Speaker 2>their pictures. Today we're gonna talk about the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the show. And so like guys like this coming up

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<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere and just being this good like the

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<v Speaker 2>Braves needed. He was kind of the MVP of the

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<v Speaker 2>game today in my opinion, they really didn't have any

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<v Speaker 2>of their main leaders available and he came in and

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<v Speaker 2>just locked the game down with a one run league.

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<v Speaker 2>So hats off to Victor Maderiro's that's awesome, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Braves real, I mean, this is a incredible trade

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<v Speaker 2>by Alex and Thopplos quite honestly, and if this guy

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<v Speaker 2>really is this good, it's a massive development in the

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<v Speaker 2>Braves bullpen.

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<v Speaker 1>And those are the type of things that you see

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of these teams here in recent years,

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<v Speaker 1>where you get these unexpected guys that step up not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily to be the closer, you know, and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, almost movie script type set up for

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<v Speaker 1>him where they all of a sudden become the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that closes out the games on a you know, deep

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<v Speaker 1>playoff run, but just a guy who can fortify the

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<v Speaker 1>back end of the bullpen, who can step up into

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger role if he's needed. And Madero's has shown

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<v Speaker 1>that he's got some quality of stuff. Now, the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I'll say is is that what many people may

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, hey, this is maybe an older guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>been a journeyman so on and so forth, Victor Maderos

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<v Speaker 1>is twenty five years old. Like this is a young

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<v Speaker 1>guy as well, and that's something that certainly stands out.

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<v Speaker 1>And a couple of other elements to him that makes him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not be like your traditional piece that Alexanthopolis

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<v Speaker 1>has added. He legit is throwing one hundred miles per

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<v Speaker 1>hour gas and it's the energy like this is. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a dude who wants to yell on the mound

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<v Speaker 1>and be intense and be excited. You saw his reaction

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<v Speaker 1>when he got that too run double over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a guy who just he knows he's in

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<v Speaker 1>an unexpected moment of positivity for him, Like he's you

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<v Speaker 1>know that thing that they talk about, you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>of the sudden, I don't know, I've become important at

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<v Speaker 1>my job and I hate it. No, Victor Madiro's is

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<v Speaker 1>living the dream of I've become important at my job

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm absolutely loving it. And so the blosty, the

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<v Speaker 1>energy that's added aspects of this bullpen that not everybody carries,

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<v Speaker 1>and you haven't seen a lot in Braves bullpens in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. That's the type of thing that can really

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<v Speaker 1>step up. You have confidence when this guy takes the mound.

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<v Speaker 1>And kudos to the Braves for giving for building up

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<v Speaker 1>his high leverage situations so he could deliver in a

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<v Speaker 1>moment where they really needed it tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and listen, he barely pitched when he was with

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<v Speaker 2>the Angels. He pitched like a couple of innings a

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<v Speaker 2>year for like two or three years. But he's still

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<v Speaker 2>got like five or six years of team control. Like

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<v Speaker 2>this is not like a rental. I think he's only

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<v Speaker 2>got like half a year of service time to his career.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, the Braves have him for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously it's a reliever. You know, they they're good

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<v Speaker 2>and then they're bad, and then they're good. Like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody knows with relievers, it's volatile. This could all go

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<v Speaker 2>away next week for all ween Like that's just how

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<v Speaker 2>relievers work. But like the stuff is real, Like you

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<v Speaker 2>throw a hundred with a cutter and a slider, very clearly,

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<v Speaker 2>guys have tough time barreling him up. He's getting strikeouts.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it all looks real to me, So we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>what happens. You know, Tyler Kinley has kind of fallen

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<v Speaker 2>on hard times in terms of you know, the righty's

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<v Speaker 2>out of the pen. Obviously it's you know, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a glacier since Suarez one too when Sorez gets back.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, it wouldn't stun me at all if

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<v Speaker 2>Madero's at some point becomes like the next guy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with Fintes. You know, Fintes has kind of taken on

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<v Speaker 2>that role since Suarez has been out. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>can run out a Glaciers, Suarez, Fintes and Madero's all

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<v Speaker 2>from the right side in a playoff series and then

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<v Speaker 2>ad Dylan Lee and Dylan Dodd, you know that's a

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<v Speaker 2>damn good bull I mean, the Brades have had a

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<v Speaker 2>good bullpen all year, but they've got and listen, Suarez

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<v Speaker 2>can throw a hundred, Flintes can throw a hundred, Mandaro's

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<v Speaker 2>can throw a hundred. Like it's a it's a it's

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<v Speaker 2>an aspect they haven't had. They've had good bullpens, but

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<v Speaker 2>they've never had like high velocity, good bullpen good bullpens.

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<v Speaker 2>And this year I feel like they have that, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's exciting. It's a really big development for

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<v Speaker 2>the Braves.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to mention his name, but the one,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think it's a similar story. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say it. This this almost has like bit of

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Matzick Fields too. Yet I don't want to sit

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<v Speaker 1>here and like put that level of success story on

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<v Speaker 1>Maderias yet because we're nowhere near there.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, I mean Matzik was a top prospect who

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<v Speaker 2>got hurt and then came back. Madario's is probably a

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's it's something similar.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, the big thing for the Braves tonight

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<v Speaker 1>was that, Okay, you won two out of three against

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<v Speaker 1>the Rangers, and there was that disappointing loss on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were able to get the job done on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>So you kind of were to the point with the

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<v Speaker 1>Braves where over the past six weeks you're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we've had we had this against the Brewers. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember the other team that we had against, but we

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<v Speaker 1>had a couple of these weekend series over the past

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<v Speaker 1>month where they finally looked like they were getting out

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<v Speaker 1>of their funk and then started the next week it

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<v Speaker 1>was a letdown. Well, tonight they were able to do

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<v Speaker 1>the job and perhaps besides Victor Maderos, nobody did a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger job on a night where the Braves needed some

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<v Speaker 1>extended innings than Bryce Elder getting back to how he

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<v Speaker 1>looked in the first few months of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you know the story of the last I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>really the last month and a half, that's been the

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<v Speaker 2>rotation after Chris Sale, Like what does the rotation after

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Sale look like? And it's been largely negative and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of it has been not only poor outings,

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<v Speaker 2>but really short poor outings.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've lost count the number of times the

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<v Speaker 2>Braves have had to do like a you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>game where the bullpen covers six innings, five or six innings.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like every sales start or every non sales

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<v Speaker 2>start there at least covering four innings, if not more so.

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<v Speaker 2>And then and tonight it just wasn't an option. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I actually believe that if Elder had given up like

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<v Speaker 2>five runs in the first couple of innings, they would

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<v Speaker 2>have just hung him out to dry tonight, like he

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna throw six innings no matter what. Now, what

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<v Speaker 2>he did was he turned around and he had a

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<v Speaker 2>really strong game. And the Padres have been a team

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<v Speaker 2>for the Braves that they have a real hard time with,

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<v Speaker 2>especially Manny Machado. I don't know what the hell happens

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<v Speaker 2>when Manny Minchado sees a Braves uniform, but that dude

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<v Speaker 2>turns into bonds or pooholes like overnight, anytime the Braves

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<v Speaker 2>come to their place or he comes here, like Mandon

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<v Speaker 2>Minchaddo's not having a good year. But you would not

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<v Speaker 2>know that if you're a Braves fan, because the dude

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<v Speaker 2>hits a home run every game against the Braves. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was a couple of solo home runs

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<v Speaker 2>tonight for the For the Padre they have not been

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<v Speaker 2>playing well. They've actually really fallen on hard times lately.

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<v Speaker 2>Their offense has had a really bad year, like stunningly

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<v Speaker 2>bad year. I don't know what the hell has happened

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<v Speaker 2>to Jackson Merrill, who looked like he was gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best young players of baseball. He's really

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<v Speaker 2>fallen on hard times. Tatis is having a weird year.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it was a game where like a team

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<v Speaker 2>that's not playing well, not great offensive baseball coming in,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a game where Eldrick could really kind of

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<v Speaker 2>get back on track a little bit. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the boat has been taken on quite a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>water lately for him, and you know, he did a

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<v Speaker 2>nice job. It wasn't dominant, but you know, Elder starts

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<v Speaker 2>are rarely dominant, but he stayed mostly out of the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the plate. You know, those two homerows he

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<v Speaker 2>gave up were balls in the middle, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>happened anytime Bryce Elder throws the ball in the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the plate. You saw what happens with the Machado

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<v Speaker 2>and the France home run, Like, that's what happens. He's

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<v Speaker 2>got to stay out of the middle of the plate,

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<v Speaker 2>and he did that for the most part tonight, and

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<v Speaker 2>he gave him six incredibly valuable innings. They act she

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<v Speaker 2>took him out of like seventy seven pitches. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>adult Wat might let him go longer than that, just

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<v Speaker 2>out of necessity. I was impressed that Walt actually pulled

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<v Speaker 2>him when he did, because I do think he was

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<v Speaker 2>running out of gas. But it was a big star

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<v Speaker 2>for Bryce. You know, we've been critical of him lately,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody has. He's been very bad lately. But tonight they

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<v Speaker 2>needed at least six innings out of their starter and

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<v Speaker 2>they got that, and it was a really good game

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<v Speaker 2>from Bryce.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Just looking it up. Manny Machado, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>can't do the exact number off the top of my head,

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<v Speaker 1>but he has more than two hundred career play appearances

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<v Speaker 1>against twenty plus current MLB teams. Only the Saint Louis

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals are he had the only team that he has

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<v Speaker 1>a higher ops against than the Braves. Among those twenty teams,

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<v Speaker 1>that he has two hundredlus plate appearances against is the

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Louis Cardinals. Yeah, so, I mean it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>true statement. But the big thing also that stands out,

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<v Speaker 1>will call it that the Steven Tober specialty is this

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<v Speaker 1>team is back to hitting home runs and they and

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<v Speaker 1>they need to be because in games like this, which

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<v Speaker 1>again seemed like a playoff game, despite who may have

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<v Speaker 1>been on the mound for both teams, home runs matter.

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<v Speaker 1>And even though Manny Machado got one, you know for

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<v Speaker 1>the Padres, the Braves hit more home runs and that

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<v Speaker 1>was the big difference in the game. That is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge factor. It also helps that we're in this part

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<v Speaker 1>of the season where some of the Brave's best bats

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<v Speaker 1>are usually at their best. You look at the career numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the career trends Michael Harris, Austin Riley

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<v Speaker 1>as well as Matt Olson. Typically this the month of

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<v Speaker 1>July or you know, the month the first month of

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<v Speaker 1>the second half of the season. Historically, that's when those

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<v Speaker 1>three guys really get going. And right now they are

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely hitting the cover off the ball, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great to see. For Riley, it's awesome to see

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Harris putting together a solid campaign and Matt Olson

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<v Speaker 1>just does Matt Olson things. But tonight, you know, Ozzie

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<v Speaker 1>as well at times. But I really want to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on Michael Harris. You know, he's just he's remained consistent.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he fell off a bit, I believe, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>towards the end of May, but he has just remained

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<v Speaker 1>consistently good, even though he didn't make the All Star Game.

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<v Speaker 1>Was certainly deserving and it's glad to see that he's

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<v Speaker 1>picking right. He's picking up where he left off in

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<v Speaker 1>the first half by having an unbelievable start for the second.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been homers. I mean, it's just like I've

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<v Speaker 2>lost how many times I've said this. It is the

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<v Speaker 2>easiest way to score consistent, Like you know, tonight is

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<v Speaker 2>a Tonight's game is actually a perfect example. The Braves

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have a lot going tonight at all. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they had that one little rally with bart and Debond,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, at the bottom of the order, Austin Riley

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<v Speaker 2>had a couple of really hard hit balls in his

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<v Speaker 2>first two of bats it could have been homers, but

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<v Speaker 2>other than that, they didn't really have a lot going

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<v Speaker 2>bald went over for four, also went oh for four.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, games like that, it's gonna be tough for

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<v Speaker 2>the Braves to score. Well, how did they score? They

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<v Speaker 2>hit homers. They hit two homers. And the pitching obviously

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<v Speaker 2>was the story tonight because they had you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>were able to make three runs.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold up.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is how you win in the playoffs a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, have you play a lot of three two

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<v Speaker 2>games of the playoffs and you won because you hit homers,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I will, I'll scream this until everybody

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<v Speaker 2>like it is the most important part of offense because

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<v Speaker 2>it is the most consistent when you get to October.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the easiest way to score against really good pitching.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone gets a walk, someone hits a home or boom,

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<v Speaker 2>you had two runs, right, You don't have to hit

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to hit five singles in the same

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<v Speaker 2>inning or a double, you know, two doubles, a single,

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<v Speaker 2>a single, a walk, a double, Like streaking all those

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<v Speaker 2>all the together is hard to do and it's very inconsistent.

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<v Speaker 2>The easiest way to score is homers. And the Braves

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<v Speaker 2>have gotten back, not just tonight, but you know, probably

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<v Speaker 2>in July, really the month of July. I would say

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<v Speaker 2>they've scored a lot of runs in July, Like they

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<v Speaker 2>had the big game against they had the good big

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<v Speaker 2>game against the Pirates. I think they had a couple

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<v Speaker 2>big games against the Mets. They've scored double digit runs. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>they just had the really big game against the Rangers

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<v Speaker 2>where they won fifteen to one.

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<v Speaker 1>So like.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they had eight runs I think on the

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday game. So it's just been it's been exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>we needed to see offensively, and this is without Acunya.

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<v Speaker 2>But like Baldwin is back to hitting the way Baldwin

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<v Speaker 2>can hit, Olsen's really been hitting all year. Michael Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>like you just said, has been Probably you could make

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<v Speaker 2>the argument because of how how hurt Akunya has been,

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<v Speaker 2>how inconsistent Riley's been. You can make an argument that

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Harris has been like the MVP of the team

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<v Speaker 2>because if he doesn't do what he's done, it's just Baldwin,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Baldwin and Olsen and a little bit of Ozzie,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's not enough. So, like Harris has been unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Ozzi had another homework tonight. Acuny is about to be back.

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<v Speaker 2>I still want another bat. I still think they need

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<v Speaker 2>another I think they need a DH I would love

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<v Speaker 2>to just get an outfielder, quite honestly, so I think

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<v Speaker 2>they need one more bat. But if Austin can keep

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<v Speaker 2>hitting balls one hundred and six miles an hour like

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<v Speaker 2>you did tonight and I know you're smiling listen, are

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna do, Austin Riley. I need to see it

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<v Speaker 2>for at least like a couple of weeks, Like one

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<v Speaker 2>or two games is not gonna get me excited, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I need to see show me for like two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>that you can keep. Tonight was a good night for him.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he didn't have a hit, but like you,

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<v Speaker 2>he barreled two ball. You barrel two balls every night.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll get me back on like the Austin Riley train.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to see it from an extended period before

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<v Speaker 2>I get too excited. But like, yeah, there is very

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<v Speaker 2>much a world where this is a very very good offense. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>a Cunue is going to be back anytime, maybe this week.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I do think they might add a bad

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<v Speaker 2>at the deadline. Like there's a world where it's a

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<v Speaker 2>very good offense. And the key to the whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>is home.

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<v Speaker 1>Runs, absolutely, And you know, the think about offense is

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<v Speaker 1>is that you know you're as much as you're pitching.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, could struggle at times if you're consistently again,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as much as Steven has said home runs,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of our we have our own individual way

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<v Speaker 1>of saying the same things. It's consistently scoring runs and

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<v Speaker 1>the easiest way possible. He'll mention home runs. I'll mention

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<v Speaker 1>the success when they score five plus runs, though they've

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<v Speaker 1>fallen on hard times here recently. When it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>scoring five plus runs, you want to make it seven

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<v Speaker 1>to eight consistently. That makes it even easier. More consistently

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<v Speaker 1>the offense is the a bit easier it is to

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<v Speaker 1>manage the pitching situation. Because unfortunately, while we were going

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<v Speaker 1>for a stretch there, you know, some pretty positive pitchy

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<v Speaker 1>So again, Steve, when we talk about the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>at the major league label, we're starting to see a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of inaklean of improvement. You know, obviously sales

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<v Speaker 1>been sale, but Bryce Elvert Tonight, Renald Lopez has been

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<v Speaker 1>pretty impressive in recent starts at Levey Struggle one. Our

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<v Speaker 1>team Pez likely will be hopefully coming back later on

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<v Speaker 1>this week. So so we're getting, you know, some guys

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<v Speaker 1>who can kind of hold their own until maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>reinforcements starts to the trade downline. More on that in

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<v Speaker 1>just a moment. But the unfortunate thing is is that

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<v Speaker 1>we got some unexpected news on Hirst and Waldrop over

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.879
<v Speaker 1>the past twenty four hours. I'll let you go into

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:25.200
<v Speaker 1>it a bit more in detail, but it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>another example of you know, yes, the Braves I believe

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<v Speaker 1>overall in terms of development, have been pretty consistent at

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:38.639
<v Speaker 1>developing intriguing arms. That all just I know Waldrop is

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>that all just are not first round talents. But unfortunately

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that injury bug keeps hitting and now we're getting to

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the point to where for some of these pictures it's

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<v Speaker 1>multiple times in less than a twelve month period.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so obviously Hurston's just had a kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>year from hell. Yeah, you know, he came in, he

0:24:57.160 --> 0:25:00.840
<v Speaker 2>had a really strong end of last year, and you know,

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 2>he kind of came up unexpectedly in that Bristol Motorsports game,

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 2>pitched really well, really earned a rotation spot because everybody

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:11.880
<v Speaker 2>else was hurt and he was pitching really well, and

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 2>it got people excited. You know, herson's a first round pick,

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.359
<v Speaker 2>really high pedigree out of Florida, Like there was a

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of excitement about him when the Braves drafted him,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, they're going to give him every chance

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 2>in the world to be successful. Coming into this year,

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<v Speaker 2>that people thought maybe, you know, he could be a

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<v Speaker 2>day one rotation guy, like right out of spring training

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 2>and have a rotation spot. And we got to spring

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:37.320
<v Speaker 2>and he just immediately boom, he had I think he

0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:40.920
<v Speaker 2>was the loose bodies in the elbow and he had

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 2>the surgery, of course, and he was out for like

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 2>four months, did the long road back, just got back

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 2>in the last like few weeks and then boom. We

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 2>got a report today that he actually removed himself from

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:59.159
<v Speaker 2>his start in Gwinette after thirty six pitches because his

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:02.919
<v Speaker 2>arm hurt, and you know they you know, Walt obviously

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 2>was talking to the beat guys and was like, yeah,

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's never good when a picture takes himself

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 2>out of a game because it's arm Hertz. They're gonna,

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously get everything looked at the way Walt

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:16.639
<v Speaker 2>actually was. I saw the the interview. The way Walt

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 2>was talking, it did not seem like the most pot

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Like sometimes you can tell like if if they feel good,

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 2>they feel neutral, if they if they don't feel great

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:28.640
<v Speaker 2>about it. The way he was talking, it didn't seem

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 2>like they felt great about it.

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>So the Eman's article kind of echoed that as well

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 1>when he talked about Walker today.

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Bowman said, you know, it's likely out for

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 2>the season. Some of that is just where we are

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 2>in the calendar, Like if they have to shut him down,

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:43.399
<v Speaker 2>like he doesn't have time to build back up, and

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 2>then it's almost not worth it at that point, like

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 2>where we are in the calendar, any sort of injury

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:51.120
<v Speaker 2>at all to the arm and it's you know, it's

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 2>gonna end to your season just because of it. You know,

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 2>it's we're we're not far away from August at this point.

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:59.199
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it sucks. It's all gonna come down to

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 2>what the diagnosis. Is it more loose bodies, is it

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 2>something more significant. You know, we're not gonna speculate because

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 2>obviously elbows can range anywhere from day to day to

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 2>eighteen months and anywhere in between. So we're not gonna speculate.

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.239
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna let the news come out. But yeah, it

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 2>was a bummer because it effectively ends Waldrop's season because

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're gonna shut him down for some period

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 2>and he's very he's gonna have very little time to

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 2>ramp back up. So it was just kind of crappy

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 2>news today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and and and when you kind of broaden the

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>picture a bit, it starts to get a bit bleak.

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>When you're looking at the you know, most recent wave

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>of braves right handed pictures who have come to the majors,

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 1>you know more in that that, you know, twenty two,

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty three to twenty five range, and all of them

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 1>showed initial success at some point, but now all of them,

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Stephen have either had Tommy John surgery or have had

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>multiple significant absences due to arm injuries. I mean, you

0:27:58.119 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>know that the Spincher Scrollerblock, it's been more than he

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 1>year since he's pitched because of multiple injuries. Hirst and Waldrop,

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe you know now looking at I don't I'm not

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 1>going to speculate. He's obviously seeing multiple injuries. Stryder has

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>seen it, and Smith Jobber's coming back from it. Six

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:15.159
<v Speaker 1>months ago, even we were looking at this like, you know,

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 1>if we could just get through this year, we're all

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 1>of them are healthy, we could because he's a really

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>intriguing death in our starting rotation now in the year,

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>because because you don't know if Spincer swelling Box is

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to you know, come into where cold

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>look at look at what happened to Stryder after his

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you know one injury, Spincher Schwellerbox. It may be sometime

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>in twenty seven before he pitches at the major league

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>level again. Unfortunately, that wave of Braves pitching that seems

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>so intriguing even twelve months ago, it's pretty bleak out

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>there now did injuries Unfortunately, it's just it's unfortunate to see.

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, they've had, I mean they've had an insane

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 2>rash of injuries. You just mentioned Strider, Schwellenbach, waldrop A,

0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 2>mischall are all with elbow something. Ronald Lopez missed an

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 2>entire year with a shoulder and really he's never really

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 2>been the same. He's been decent lately. You know, Grant

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Holmes had the elbow scare stuff last year, and he's

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 2>been able to pitch this year at a pretty consistent level.

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Like Grant, it's a reliever, everybody knows that, but obviously

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 2>they need him as a starter right now. But yeah,

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 2>it's just been an insane amount of injuries. And you know,

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 2>some of it is and I've talked about this before,

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 2>like the sport as a whole is just not very

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 2>good at keeping pitchers healthy. Like we've tried everything.

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's just.

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 2>A violent like pitching is just a violent motion on

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 2>your arm, Like it's not really good for your arm.

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 2>So it's just about managing the violence essentially, is what

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, trying to keep pictures healthy is. And you know,

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 2>nobody has figured it out, and unfortunately for the Braves.

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 2>And this is why I went on that ran a

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 2>few weeks ago about when they're healthy, pitch him because

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 2>the odds of them staying healthy, are you keeping them healthy?

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Are not great? Just aren't. And this is why, like

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 2>the old adage of baseball, there's no such thing as

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 2>a pitching prospect, because like you know if you have

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 2>if you have ten of them, a third of them

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 2>are gonna get hurt, a third of them are never

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna pan out, and maybe you get one or two

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 2>that actually, you know, the Braves went through this with

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Max Freed, like they had a million pitching prospects back

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 2>in the early like you know, John Coppola days, Like

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 2>literally you could list them off for like two minutes

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 2>and not get to the end of the list. They

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 2>had like twenty plus really good pitching prospects and basically

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 2>the only one that's turned into a like really consistent

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 2>major league starter has been Max Free And you know

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 2>that's that's pitching prospects for you. So it sucks. It

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 2>really sucks for the guys individually, because of course these

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 2>guys don't want to be hurt. But yeah, I mean

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 2>it's just part of dealing with a very violent motion

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 2>on a very sensitive part of the body.

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And with that being said, you know, if the

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>it just makes the need to look externally, you know,

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.960
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0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>funny we should mention that because the one and only

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:13.520
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<v Speaker 1>So Steve and it's good to see the Braves playing

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<v Speaker 1>good ball again. But one thing that I think that

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be noted about kind of where we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about multiple things when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 1>standings here over the next few minutes. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>that they're now four and a half games out of

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<v Speaker 1>the second best record in the National League, which means

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<v Speaker 1>that it's pretty clear that they're going to be playing

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<v Speaker 1>in that wildcard round. What does that mean, Well, that

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<v Speaker 1>means you're not going to have a four or five

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>six day window where you can really try to set

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>your pitching with you know, internal options that you currently have,

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 1>because you're gonna have to use them in at least

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>two plus games. Then you would kind of hope for

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 1>in the first two months of the season. So what

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>does that mean the need for pitching becomes even higher,

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and that obviously is on the radar right that that

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>obviously is what the Braves need. They need another legitimate starter.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody in the world knows that more than Alex and

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>thoughtless he admitted that as much. But the interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>that he did say, again, if you go back and

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the interviews, a lot of it is just

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0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>But one thing that he did kind of hit on

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>was that while they do acknowledge that's clearly what they need,

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 1>that's clearly what they want. There's a lot of other

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>teams that want that as well. But where you kind

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>of have to pivot at times is in what way

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>can I improve my team the most? And that kind

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>of to me makes it where, yeah, they're going to

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>do everything they can to get that starter. I think

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>they're eventually going to get a starter or two former fashion,

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>but we may see a bit of an unorthodox move

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 1>that could improve maybe the bullpen or the offense to

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>really try to make one of those aspects of the teams.

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Among the elite in baseball consistent.

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I don't know if Alex has like a

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 2>quota of number of interviews he has to do in

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:20.359
<v Speaker 2>a year and he decided, like, screw it, I'm gonna

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 2>do like five of them in a row. It seems

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 2>like he's interviewed with everybody of the last like three days,

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:29.359
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I found it very funny and very

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 2>on brand that in every single interview it seems like

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 2>he highlighted a different part of the team as like

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 2>the area like Rosenthal had a report about how the

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 2>brains were really focused on offense instead of pitching. And

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 2>then the next day Alex does an interview and he

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 2>focuses much more on starters and relievers than offense. And

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 2>then he does another interview where he talks about the

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 2>whole damn team like it's it's just very on brand.

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 2>It's why I don't really bother with any of it,

0:34:55.800 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 2>because one, Alex has always shown that even if a

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 2>team has a very clear need, if they can't get

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 2>that need, they will go and prove the team elsewhere

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 2>to try to make up for the fact that they

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 2>couldn't get exactly what they needed. So that opens up everything, right,

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Two Alex doesn't even know who's available yet because teams

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 2>themselves are not declaring. I mean, we still got what

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 2>two weeks to the deadline, right at two weeks, I think,

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 2>and so like teams don't have to decide today. They

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 2>can wait and see if they've got a six game

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 2>winning streak. You know, if you'd asked the Boston Red

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Sox fourteen games ago what they were gonna do, they

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.479
<v Speaker 2>would have told you they were gonna sell. Well, they've

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 2>just won fourteen straight games, and now they're very much

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna buy because they're you know, they're very much in

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 2>the playoffs. I think they're in the playoffs right now

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 2>if they started today. So, you know, teams just aren't

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 2>ready to declare. And I think there I think Alex

0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 2>said it on his radio show today, they're right now.

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 2>There's pretty clearly seven sellers right now, Like if you

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 2>look at the standings, very very easily seven sellers. There's

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 2>a very good chance we could get that number to

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 2>like ten, And I think that's the number, Like, if

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 2>you can get to at least ten, like obviously twelve

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:19.720
<v Speaker 2>fifteen would be ideal where it's equal number of buyers

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 2>and sellers. But even if you can get to double digits,

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 2>I think you can at least make some reasonable moves.

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 2>So it's just gonna all be about over the next

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 2>basically week, this week, this next seven days, how these

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:38.279
<v Speaker 2>teams do. The Red Sox going bananas actually helps the

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Braves in a way because they have made it where

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:43.280
<v Speaker 2>all the teams behind them. The Red Sox are currently

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 2>the third wild card in the American League, and because

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 2>they just never lose anymore, all the teams behind them

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:52.919
<v Speaker 2>have found themselves four or five, six, seven games back

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 2>of the playoff spot all of a sudden, like the

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Red Sox going nuclear could actually be very beneficial for

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 2>the Braves, even though obviously the Braves we're hoping that

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 2>maybe they could get some of the Red Sox players

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 2>at some point. Obviously we talked a lot about Sunny Gray.

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 2>That's not gonna happen anymore. But them winning at the

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 2>level they have might actually push some other teams to sell,

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 2>which would help. We need that same thing to happen

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 2>in the National League. Right now, there's five playoff teams

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:20.840
<v Speaker 2>very clearly in the National League, the Dodgers, the Brewers,

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 2>the Braves, Afhillies, and the Cubs, those have kind of

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:28.320
<v Speaker 2>separated themselves. Unfortunately, that sixth team has not appeared yet,

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 2>and that has left everybody feeling like they've got a chance, right,

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Like teams like the Padres and the Diamondbacks and the

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Cardinals and the Nationals, like we needed one of those

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 2>teams to kind of take off, and that really hasn't happened,

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 2>and so that's gonna muddy the waters. So it's all

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.399
<v Speaker 2>gonna come down to who is actually gonna sell. Over

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 2>the next two weeks and the next seven days, we'll

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 2>decide a lot of that. So yeah, I mean, he's

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 2>just gonna have to wait and see who's available. But

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 2>there is no out. In my mind, the braves number

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 2>one need is a a very clear number two starter,

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 2>someone who is very obviously going to take Game two

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 2>that the Braves have to be in that Wildcard round.

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Chris Sale pitches Game one, player X pitches in Game two,

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 2>no questions asked. That is the braves number one need.

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 2>It has been for over a year now, and you

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:23.800
<v Speaker 2>know that's going to be the main focus.

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 5>I think, yeah, And you know, with that being said,

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 5>while the landscape of what exactly is going to be

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 5>out there, for the trade deadline is still very much

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:36.320
<v Speaker 5>in a fog.

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:39.360
<v Speaker 1>We're starting to see a few teams coming to focus.

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, we've seen the Reds basically kind of you know,

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 1>put it out there that you know they're willing to sell.

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:46.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're wanting to do it in layers, okay, whatever.

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:50.680
<v Speaker 1>We're seeing reports that the Angels are starting to potentially

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 1>be willing to sell. The Royals would would naturally be

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:56.760
<v Speaker 1>someone that would you know, want to do that as well.

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.479
<v Speaker 1>And what stands out about those three teams is that

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 1>some of their most obvious trade candidates are actually options

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 1>that are controllable versus rentals. And that's something that I

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 1>think the brains need to focus on. If the Braves

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 1>are going to go get a number two starter, they

0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 1>also need someone that can be in the rotation going

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 1>forward beyond twenty twenty six. The biggest reason why is

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>because with what we mentioned in the last segment, with

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of your internal options that you thought were

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna be ready for years to come, that's not the

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 1>case right now. And so if they can find a

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:30.360
<v Speaker 1>controllable option that makes sense. Read debtmers Jose Soreon and

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Michael Waka SETH logo names like that are going to

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 1>be out there, so the Braves need to go out

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>there and get them. And so while overall great options

0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 1>may not be there as number two starters, there could

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 1>be several different options. The Braves could choose room in

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 1>terms of controllable, intriguing starters, and that may be worth

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>paying a decent price to go get.

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's just gonna be about who's available.

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Like there's a word where Schooble is still available. By

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:01.240
<v Speaker 2>the way, Like there's a world I think the Twins

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 2>have lost three in a row. There's a world where

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Joe Ryan is available. There's a world where neither of

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:08.399
<v Speaker 2>those guys is available. There's a world where Miami looked

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 2>like they were gonna buy a week ago, but they've

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 2>lost like seven in a row. So like if Miami

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 2>really goes in the tank, Miami could sell. Like it's

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of on a knife s edge right now,

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Like there's just so many teams that could go one

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:25.280
<v Speaker 2>way or the other that is going to drastically change

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 2>the market, and so it's you know, it's it's not

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 2>even really possible to I said this earlier. I don't

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 2>even think Alex knows the names of who's available, and

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I think he said in the interview today like he's

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:39.760
<v Speaker 2>been given a list of the players who are available

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 2>right now. That list is going to drastically change over

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 2>the next seven days. So there's just no way to guess.

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 2>And there's probably guys that we would be surprised. I've

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:56.399
<v Speaker 2>seen in the past we're contenders, will sell and by

0:40:56.440 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 2>at the same time, I've seen we're sellers also by

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Like it's just you never know what's going on in

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 2>the front office. Who needs to clear money, who doesn't.

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 2>You know a lot of these teams get to this

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 2>point and they realize they're not going to make a

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 2>playoff run last year, And I've used this exam before

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 2>last year, no one had any idea at this point,

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 2>two weeks out from the deadline that the Twins we're

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna sell everybody. No one saw a fire cell from

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 2>the Twins coming at this point last year. That could

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 2>happen with some team we're not even thinking about right now,

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:31.959
<v Speaker 2>where an owner just says, you know what, we've tried

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 2>with this cord. It's not working. We're gonna do a

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 2>hard reset and we're gonna start right now. So you know,

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 2>there's just too much uncertainty to even try to guess

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:43.319
<v Speaker 2>who the names you're gonna be. All we can kind

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 2>of guess on is conceptionally who it's going to be.

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.799
<v Speaker 2>And I heard Alex say today that he believes the

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 2>playoffs are built around pitching. I heard him say that today,

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 2>And I believe the playoffs are built around pitching as well.

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 2>I would say pitching in homers or is what wins

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 2>in the postseason. And they need one. They everyone on

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 2>God's Green Earth knows the Braves need one more really

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:09.279
<v Speaker 2>good starter. They don't need three guys, they just need

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:13.360
<v Speaker 2>one more. They need one very clear playoff caliber starter.

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 2>And that's going to be the question. I think they

0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 2>need more. I think they need a bat. I can

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 2>make the case they need two bats. I think they

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 2>need a DH because Dom Smith has kind of turned

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 2>back into Dom Smith. But more than all of that,

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 2>they need one high level playoff starter. And you know,

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 2>a lot of a lot of this deadline is going

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 2>to be graded on that basis do they get that guy?

0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 1>And and we've heard you know the fact, you know,

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 1>when when the Tigers and the Red Sox were struggling.

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 1>We heard the Braves were you know, quote unquote. I

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 1>think it was more because it just made sense and

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:48.800
<v Speaker 1>it was you know, actual reporting. You know, the Braves

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:51.440
<v Speaker 1>are you know, easily in on Schooble. The Braves are

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 1>easily in on Sunny Gray. Those are the type of

0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:56.759
<v Speaker 1>guys that you know, really fall in mind to be

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that number two starter. Yeah. The problem is is that

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:02.600
<v Speaker 1>while they need that, it's going to be very hard

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:04.720
<v Speaker 1>to find if there are a limited number of sellers.

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:07.720
<v Speaker 1>There's a reason why those teams are sellers. It's because

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.319
<v Speaker 1>they don't have options that are that great. So the

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 1>last thing they'll end on is I threw out on

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Twitter today that what I felt like a pretty straightforward

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 1>deal for the Braves could be though I know it's

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.839
<v Speaker 1>the Mets. When I said straightforward, I was meaning, this

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 1>is a combo deal that can you know, if Alex

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 1>really prefers pitching, this is a combo deal that can

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>at least check the boxes, you know, in several ways

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 1>to just make things better. Freddy Peralta, as well as

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 1>AJ Mentor Agent Mentor, is having a pretty decent season.

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:34.839
<v Speaker 1>Reddy Parolta is not. He has struggled but he has

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:37.360
<v Speaker 1>a good track record, but the main focus of that

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:39.879
<v Speaker 1>obviously is Paralta. The one thing that I will say

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 1>is this is that you're probably not going to find

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>that clear number two bona fide starter that you want

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 1>out there at this trade deadline. You're just probably not

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:52.319
<v Speaker 1>because that type of pitcher is probably helping their own

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 1>teams stay in quote unquote contention. So what do you

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 1>do next? You yet pick from the plethora of struggling

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 1>pitchers that are available for a profile that you feel

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:04.399
<v Speaker 1>can have some quick turnaround to really help out. Now,

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't want a reclamation project. There's our main get

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to a starting pitcher. But if that's

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 1>all that's out there, it's hard to create your perfect

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 1>picture out of than air. So at that point you

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of got to go with the track record. Like,

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:18.839
<v Speaker 1>if a guy's struggling this year, what makes me more

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:20.759
<v Speaker 1>confident in him that he'll be able to bounce back

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:24.560
<v Speaker 1>previous years where he was really good. So finding that

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 1>number two starter, that bona fide number two starter is

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>probably going to be hard to do because just from

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:31.400
<v Speaker 1>lack of options. So maybe you can go get one

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:33.800
<v Speaker 1>or two guys whose profiles you like that are struggling,

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 1>and one of those guys can eventually become that, you know,

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:40.400
<v Speaker 1>number two guy after sale. That's not ideal, But as

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:42.879
<v Speaker 1>Alex and Thopplis said multiple times again today, you can

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>only go with what's available, and that may be all

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that's available at this deadline.

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:55.759
<v Speaker 2>Well, and that also highlights like you really need to

0:44:55.800 --> 0:45:02.320
<v Speaker 2>do more in the offseason. Like right, like, I'm i

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<v Speaker 2>there's a nice way to say this and a not

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<v Speaker 2>nice way to say that. I'm gonna try to find

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<v Speaker 2>the nice way to say I don't really have any

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<v Speaker 2>interest in hearing about how hard it is to acquire

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<v Speaker 2>pitching at the deadline because and how much easier it

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<v Speaker 2>is to acquire in the off season because you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really acquire any pitching in the off season either, So like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously it's very hard to acquire pitching right now. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why it's so important to do it in the off

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<v Speaker 2>season when everybody and their mother was screaming for you

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<v Speaker 2>to go add some So like, yeah, it's tough, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's tough because you made it tough because you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do you know, there should have been more added and

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<v Speaker 2>the team is very good don't get me wrong. The

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<v Speaker 2>team is very good, and I'm actually really high on

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<v Speaker 2>the offense, in the in the bullpen, especially when a

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<v Speaker 2>Coune comes back, and especially if they can add one

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<v Speaker 2>more bat. But like, yeah, that's why it's so important

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<v Speaker 2>to add, you know, your your big arms in the

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<v Speaker 2>off season because we get to this point. The third

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<v Speaker 2>playoff spot in both leagues has made the try deadline

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<v Speaker 2>very difficult because there's just so many teams that still

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<v Speaker 2>believe they're in it, and there's not a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>pitching and everybody needs pitching and it's gonna be expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, yeah, I mean you kind of put yourself

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<v Speaker 2>in this position, so you know, but they need a

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they need a guy, there's no doubt, and

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea who it'll be. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think Buster Posey is particularly good at his job.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's pretty terrible at it. Honestly, I would

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<v Speaker 2>keep calling the Giants about Logan Web and just see

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<v Speaker 2>if one day they say, yes, I know they said

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<v Speaker 2>early on they're not gonna sell them. But again, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think Buster is very good at this so but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see what it is. But they need another they

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<v Speaker 2>need another frontline guy. I mean, that's just the clearest

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<v Speaker 2>need and has been for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>So Unfortunately, what this basically means is that it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>still gonna be another ten days or so before we

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<v Speaker 1>get even tack of clarity on what moved the Braves

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna make. But hey, if the offense wants to

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<v Speaker 1>keep rolling until then, we want to keep on winning

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<v Speaker 1>to give us even more reason to really invest in pitching,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do that. You can find Steven Tobert at b

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