1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Guys, this is Girls Talk, 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw Dating, Preferred Dating partner of 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters. 5 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: At the start, what wouldn't OBJ do for the wide receivers? Round? 6 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: I make it even more competitive? And then I mean 7 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: it's like you know what heaps and here like those 8 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: are those are both you know, Hall of Fame wide receivers. 9 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, I'm bring him in the wrong. 10 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: We can learn something from him, but all he's gonna 11 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: be out here doing is helping the teams. No, it'd 12 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: be awesome. What did you think when you heard how 13 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: real the Cowboys interest was. I'm just excited. It's like 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: that just makes our own way more competitive, more fun. 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: He's a good person. Um yeah, you guys are so quiet, 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: ob J's not. Are you excited about like that sort 17 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: of personality in the locker room? I mean, you know, 18 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: I think it worked really great for the Cowboys. You 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's just the way he is. 20 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: How much you grains in the table? Um? So I 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: don't think it'd be you know, crazy fit. Have you 22 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: reached out to Adam Henry about him at all? Not? 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know he talks to us all the 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: time still, but I haven't reached out to him about 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: him yet. Personality and do you think that he would 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: make a lot of sense in this locker room? No? Yeah, 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: I mean I'm friend of O b J. Huh. You know, 28 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: he definitely will fit in this locker room. I don't 29 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: know if there would be guys that wouldn't fit in 30 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: this locker room. We got a good, good group of guys, 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: but he definitely would fit in. I mean he's a competitor. Uh, 32 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: he plays hard and obviously very talented. You know that. 33 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: So I mean, shoot, we want him, We want ob Jay. 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: I've just been saying stuff and we could use him. 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: You know. I think he's a great player. He'll expend 36 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: his offense, he'll do more. He brings a lot of 37 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: you know, he's a guy that you want on the team. 38 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: I mean, side of other critics stuff that people make 39 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: up about him. I think he's a great due from 40 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: my experience to a home every time I sam, I mean, 41 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: I think he can add real value to the team 42 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: and how us do what we want to do. Welcome 43 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: into Girls Talk, Boys Talk, brought to you by Jigsaw Dating, 44 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: the official dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys. Ladies, I've 45 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: missed you. So it was a nice little bye week 46 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: and one of the bigger storylines during this bye week, 47 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: and I know you guys talked about it a lot 48 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: and extensively. Yesterday was this courtship of O. B. J. 49 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: And a lot of times all have fans come to 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: me anytime we hear names like von Miller or in 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: Dominican Sue or I mean, go down the list, Sammy Watkins. 52 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: The Cowboys typically in good faith do their due diligence, 53 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: but I'll sort of get a pushback like a we'll 54 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: see where the money's at, or I don't know. And 55 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: Patrick Walker and I always joke it's attached your name 56 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: to the Cowboys season during free agency because it helps 57 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: drive up their market value. I will tell you this 58 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: courtship is real. And here's why it's real. They were 59 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: at least trying to upgrade the wide receiver room because, 60 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: as I was described to me by some of my sources, 61 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: they wanted Brandon Cooks, the probably Brandon Cooks. He's twenty 62 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: nine years old. Yeah, multiple picks. A second, not to 63 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 1: mention guaranteed money with ob J guys being a free 64 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: agent at thirty. They like what they see from him. 65 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: Obviously he had that first touchdown in the Super Bowl 66 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: against the Rams before he got hurt. They don't have 67 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: to give up picks. They've just got to figure out 68 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: how to move the money around. And I'm getting the 69 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: sense that the Cowboys are very interested in it. Here's 70 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: another layer to this. It's hard to say what his 71 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: market value is right now because he's been rehabbing from 72 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: not just one, but two ACL injuries to the same 73 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: left knee. So no one's had him in the building yet. 74 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: Nobody's been able to get their medical staff to sort 75 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: of wrap their get their hands on him and see 76 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: what they can expect. And so then you coupled that 77 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: with Michael Irvin saying he thinks that they're the clubhouse leader. 78 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: I reached out to Dez, who's good friends with them. 79 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: The feeling feels strong, and then to hear the players 80 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: talk about him. The reason why I put that long 81 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: group of sound in there is we have the advantage 82 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: as a podcast when we come on to be able 83 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: to give you the locker room sound you haven't heard yet. 84 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: There was a genuine excitement about it. And even you 85 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: know it's not a knock on the wide receiver room, ladies, 86 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: But we've talked about this this season. Who is a 87 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: guy that really worries you if you're an opposing defense. 88 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: It's literally been a wide receiver group by committee. I 89 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: think Seedie's going to get there, but he sort of 90 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: lacked consistency. Michael Gallop even today said, and I loved 91 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: his vulnerability. He said, you know, I'm still waiting to 92 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: pop off, and I know that's going to happen for him. 93 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: You know, I know one of your favorites is James Washington. 94 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: He's right around the corner, Jaylen Tilbert, Simi Fioko. But 95 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: if they're out there Trump picking up the phone about 96 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks and now I'm not getting the pushback that 97 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: I typically get back on free agents. They are very 98 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: invested in trying to upgrade that room. And I'll start 99 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: with you, as I've done my long winded opening here Aisha, 100 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you go all in when you look at 101 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: and it's a tough division, But when you look around 102 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: the rest of the NFC. The NFC West is typically tough, 103 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: the NFC North is typically tough. I think the NFC 104 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: East is a tricky one this year. But the Cowboys 105 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: don't have an AJ Brown, you know, they need that 106 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: threat on the outside. I think that what that does 107 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: is it allows you to open your offense up the 108 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: way you had when you had a Maori Cooper there. 109 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: And that's what you heard Michael Gallup talking about. And 110 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: so my question to you, Ayisha, is how important is 111 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: it given this defense dat coming back, getting the run 112 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: game going, How important is it that they try and 113 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: get this figured out? Because the last time that they 114 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: went out and got a big splash free agent was 115 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: Morris Clayborne, the fifty million dollar guy that didn't quite work. 116 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: They gave up a lot for Maury Cooper was the 117 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: first round pick, but it did pay off. It changed 118 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: the trajectory of the offense. How much do they need 119 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: to make this happen with OBJ? I just think that, 120 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: like we talked about it, it has the potential to 121 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: put them over the top offensively. And one thing about 122 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: OBJ that I love is the fact that he's he 123 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: can be dominant the line line of scrimmage. But he's 124 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: very qube friendly to me. He's a guy that's going 125 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: to fight back to the ball if things aren't there. 126 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: You know, Dak has a scapability stuff like that, He's 127 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: going to come back and fight for the ball. Catch 128 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: radius is insane. Whatever. We definitely have been the Cowboys 129 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: definitely have been lacking that over the top player, that 130 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: vertical threat and just his speed in the respect that 131 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: he has can say what you want to say. You 132 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: know about him coming back from injury. He's another guy 133 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: that you have to prepare for. And what's happening with 134 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: the Cowboys also is that you're getting nine eight nine, 135 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: you know boxes, you know of them trying to stop 136 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: the run. You can't do that if OBJ is out there. 137 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: So I think it's just in turn going to I 138 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: love that this locker room kind of understands that if 139 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: this guy goes off, it's going to open things up 140 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: for this guy. They're very selfless and so I think 141 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: that's why I think he would fit right now. And 142 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: if you're going to go after the NFC, why not 143 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: look around y'all like it's so I'm telling you. The 144 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: bye week showed me that this A lot of teams 145 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: don't have identities, and I just I am grateful you 146 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: know that they have an identity and kind of what 147 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: they want to do. Yeah. Absolutely, Adam figure out how 148 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: to put him in this offense. He's a veteran guy, 149 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: and see if he changes, you know how this offense 150 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: starts to score and then that opens up this defense 151 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: to go and do what they want to do and 152 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: rush the passer. Yeah. I just think that Obj is 153 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: one of those players where like you can't teach it. Yes, man, 154 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you can't teach it. 155 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: He's got all the skills of what you would want 156 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: your top wide receiver to be and then some and 157 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: he does it time and time again through injuries. It's 158 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: been unfortunate just to see the way his journey has unfolded, 159 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: and I just think about if he had been healthy 160 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: all those years, that and more of an impact that 161 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: he makes. I think it's even more telling when you've 162 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: got a room full of offensive guys who you know, 163 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: football players can be cocky, they can be within themselves 164 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: and think that they're the best. But the fact that 165 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: you have, you know, three of the top guys on 166 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: this team, Ezekiel Elliott, Michael Gallup, Michael Parsons all talking 167 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: about how much of an impact he would make. I 168 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: think not only speaks volumes to the level of the 169 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: player that Odell Beckham is, but it speaks volume to 170 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: the way that this team is putting the team first 171 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: and recognizing that right now, as an offense, as a 172 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver group in particular, we don't have it all together. 173 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: But you know what, if we went out and got 174 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: this guy and added him to our group, I think 175 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: we could. And I think to me, that's what makes 176 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: the Odell Beckham signing more interesting is that it just 177 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: proves that for the first time really in recent memory 178 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: that I can remember, this is a like a team 179 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: first Cowboys organization. It's not a team. It's sure, it's 180 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: heavy on defense, but everybody wants a team to succeed. 181 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: And I think you bring an Odell Backham, and I 182 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: think that you'll really see that. So yeah, and I 183 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: totally agree with that. I think that the players within 184 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: this locker room understand that this is a business as well, 185 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: and they're not taking it personal that you know, OBJ 186 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: is in the conversation because I feel like a lot 187 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: of players could it's ob J. Of course he's going 188 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: to be a threat. Of course that means you're getting 189 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: reps taken away. But for the greater good of this team, 190 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: they understand that he's an additive. He adds value, he 191 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: adds so many things. So I don't think they're taking 192 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: it as being disrespectful that he's in the conversation. If anything, 193 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: what it sounds like is they're excited for the potential 194 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: that he could come in and add to this locker room. 195 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: With that, I mean, OBJ, we talked about this yesterday. 196 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: He's a well respected name, not just in this locker room, 197 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: across the league. He is a guy that they are 198 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: opposing defenses are going to prepare for. And not just that, 199 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: but this additive could just do so much for this 200 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: offense for Dak. Even it can open up the RPO, 201 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: the run pass option for Dak. It could open up 202 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: so so much for this offense, because, Yeah, when you're 203 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: missing the dominant guy that's going to get those twenty 204 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: yard receptions on a consistent basis, that's hurting you. And 205 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: now that the Cowboys, I know Jerry talked about it 206 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: earlier this week, have really put their energy and their 207 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: effort into fixing those third down conversions. What a guy 208 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: to have. I mean, when you're having more of those 209 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: play and more of those plays, more of that playtime, man, 210 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: it's it's scary. It makes the Cowboys even more of 211 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: a threat when you're talking playoff contention and December football 212 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: that's coming up pretty quickly. I think what's interesting to 213 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: me too when I look at this wide receiver's room 214 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: is internally, some of the knock has been that they 215 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: want these guys to assert themselves a little bit more. 216 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: They want a little bit more swag. They want the dogs. 217 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: And I feel like Noah Browns that guy, but Michael 218 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: Gallup is seedee lamb and I love this right like 219 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: you love to like. Their likability factor is through the roof, 220 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: Like I would love to be colleagues with either one 221 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: of them. But you do need a little bit of 222 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: a dog. And I don't know what Obj's health looks 223 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: like at thirty with again two injuries to that ACL, 224 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: but I think not dissimilar from having like a Jason Peters. 225 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: And this is again depending on what we're talking about. 226 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: The guaranteed. I think he's at a point in his 227 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: career where he understands the importance of mentorship. You know, 228 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: he's a new father. The next chapter is going to 229 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: turn from most receivers. You know, he's not for long, 230 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: but he's looking for a team that could win it all. 231 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: When he and I have joked about it, he loves 232 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: the fact there's no state income tax. He's got ties, 233 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: and he's looking to put down roots. And there's a 234 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: reason why a lot of Dallas Cowboys players stick around Dallas, 235 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: because it is a good place to raise your family. 236 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: But I think just having him in the room, showing 237 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: these guys, and I think that was a Marie like 238 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: when I listen when I talked to Michael Galluper, ceedy lamb. 239 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: They miss his leadership. Yeah, he was a quiet dog, 240 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: not a vocal dog, but a very confident dog. And 241 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: I think having a guy like Obj in the room 242 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: builds them up. Not dissimilar from what we've seen from 243 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: Jason Peters. And it was such a cool signing in 244 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: that way. And so again, I don't know what the 245 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: numbers are going to look like, but I've gotten the 246 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: sense unless it's like von Miller, because the Buffalo Bills 247 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: came in and blew the Cowboys out of the water. 248 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: They truly wanted Vaughan and it was a very similar 249 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: dialogue in the locker room on social media about the 250 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: desire to have Von come to Dallas. And look, they've 251 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: been able to get away with not having him, and 252 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be happy they didn't spend that 253 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: money on Von. But this is the first player in 254 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: a in a while. Just because of my personal interactions 255 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: with OBJ at Pro Bowl and over the years, I 256 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: love the fact that because I think for a while 257 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: there was like an unfair narrative about OBJ and his 258 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: passion and what he was about. He changed that in 259 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: Los Angeles and if you ask Cooper Cup, Sean McVay, 260 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth, those guys will tell you how important he is. 261 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: Miley thing is, I'm just curious if the La rams 262 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: find a way. They always find the money to get 263 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: him back. LA's a great market. I know his fiance 264 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: or wife. You know, she's in the fitness industry and 265 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: it's a great place for her to have her brand. 266 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: I think that's the only thing that works against the Cowboys. 267 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: But being a Cowboys player, it's so iconic. This is 268 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: where you do sell them on the endorsements and being 269 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: with Dallas. It's the most intriguing free agents discussion that 270 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,599 Speaker 1: we've had around Dallas in a long time. And I 271 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: think it's important too, Like when you talk about him 272 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: coming in and maybe mentoring the young guys and whatever. 273 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: I think it's important for this team to kind of 274 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: turn that tide of they don't touch free agents, they 275 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: don't go after the big name because it's so you know, 276 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: with the cap and all of that conversation, like show 277 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: us something like this is like if you have the opportunity, 278 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: with how wide open the NFC is, Like, I think 279 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: it's important for everyone involved to see them maybe go 280 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: out and make this change and show how interested they 281 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: are in going and win a championship because other teams 282 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: are doing it well. And I think the only pushback 283 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys would have and I get it right 284 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: because I've had these conversations with people who are close 285 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: to this situation. The issue that you have is you're 286 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: gonna start talking about Dak's contract tracking in the next 287 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: year or two years. They're gonna, I want to get 288 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: ahead of that a little bit earlier than they have 289 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: in years past. You've got Treyvon Diggs. And then if 290 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: you bring in OBJ and he's got a big guarantee 291 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: dollar amount, you've got to start figuring out when you do. 292 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: With Tony Pollard, you've got Ezekiel Elliott. And then you 293 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: ask yourself about Ceedee Lamb and if CD, to your point, 294 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: doesn't find that extra gear, do they feel good with OBJ? 295 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, who I think we all agree is going 296 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: to find that next gear for him. I think he's 297 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: just coming back from the injury. You like what you've 298 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: seen from Noah Brown so far. I worry about what 299 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: that means for a guy like Ceedee Lamb in the conversations, 300 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: like because somebody and I send this in the mediumash, 301 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: someone will pay yeah, Ceedee Lamb, Yeah yeah. But I 302 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: just wonder if the Cowboys will do that. So I 303 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: wasn't able to catch up with Ceedie Lamb day, but 304 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: I am kind of curious. We know what he'd probably 305 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: say on the record, but I am curious what he 306 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: would say off the record. Because the job was his 307 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: this year, the number one guy, and this is a 308 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: little bit of an indictment of that that he hasn't 309 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: stepped into that role, which is why they're looking for 310 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: outside help, and I hate it for him because, like 311 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: I said, huge fan of CD. I also think just 312 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: the culture that has really been spewing out of this building, 313 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: and the Mike McCarthy culture specifically, is really intriguing for 314 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: a guy like OBJ, who is so passionate, who is 315 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: very ready to you know, win another ring. I like, 316 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine once you get one, I'm sure 317 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: you want ten more after that, right, But I think 318 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: the talk surrounding what Mike McCarthy has done this season 319 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: specifically is intriguing to him because you look at really 320 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: Dallas on top of it, you add the star, but 321 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: then you add Mike McCarthy and what he's done, you 322 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: add even just this defense, how incredible the defense is 323 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: playing right now? That is a team you want to 324 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: play for. And again, I think for OBJ, as far 325 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: as that he even tweeted Dallas is intriguing because his 326 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: dad's side is down there and he's just trying to 327 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: win wherever he goes. But I also left that banter 328 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: with Micah on Twitter just awesome stuff. But I love 329 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: that you bring up you brought up to points there 330 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: jest that I want to touch on one of them 331 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: was he went to a team like the Rams, who 332 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: had an incredible defense with Von Miller and Aaron Donald 333 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: and you know, they had Cooper Cup and they had 334 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: a run game, but Obi j sort of gave him 335 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: a So there's a similar There's some similarities here, and 336 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: also the Rams have really leveraged and mortgaged their future. 337 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: The other thing you brought up was Mike McCarthy, and 338 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: we'll get into it a little bit on the other 339 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: side of this break as I wrap up this segment, 340 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: but it's his focus on helping these players sustain their 341 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: bodies so that they have more longevity, and he's become 342 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: very player friendly around here. He gave these players a 343 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: whole week off last week, didn't want him around the facility. 344 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: Most teams when it's a bye week they practice till 345 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: Thursdy And again, we'll get it this a little bit, 346 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: but if you're an aging players coming off two injuries, 347 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: look at what he's done with Jason Peters. Yeah, take 348 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: your veteran days like Tyron Smith, Tyrn Smith, take your time. 349 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: I think that's really appealing for a player that's wanting 350 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: to continue his time with the team to go somewhere 351 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: that's going to have some of the cap space that 352 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: has a lot of young players who are not necessarily 353 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: coming up for their next contract. But how's a defense 354 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: defense wins championships to have a similar model to what 355 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: he found in Los Angeles. Like I said, I think 356 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: the only pushback is the market. But I think a 357 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: lot of people are seeing the Dallas market as being 358 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: just as interesting as the LA market these days. And 359 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: in regard to the Rams, in the conversation, if he 360 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: was even looking at going to the Rams, I definitely 361 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: saw that. You know, Matthew Stafford is in concussion protocol 362 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: and we see where their season is right now. So 363 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: I just think a lot of that's going to play 364 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: into his decision. But you're right, like he is. If 365 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: he did come to the Cowboys, he will be essentially 366 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: being integrated into an offense that's similar to where the 367 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: Rams were last year. Hey, we need you to come 368 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: in work that slot and get some you know, get 369 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: some things going there because there's not much there. I 370 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: think that he is in a unique situation where he 371 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: has the opportunity to come in and actually contribute here 372 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: as opposed to some of those other teams. That are 373 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: kind of top heavy or whatever he can contribute here. 374 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: Immediately I did sort of laugh. John Machoda tweeted out, 375 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of interesting numbers available because which 376 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: young guy is going to defer to OBJ and say, 377 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: here's my number, my bro? All right, we're gonna take 378 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: our first break. On the other side of this, I 379 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: want to get into our discussion that we were talking 380 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: about with Mike McCarthy, because today I was able to 381 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: dig in a little bit just based on some of 382 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers comments about Mike, given that they've had about 383 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: three four years now removed from each other. 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I was gonna say energy, but 435 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: Noah Brown was limited with that foot injury he's been battling. 436 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott was also limited with a knee, and Donovan 437 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: Wilson had a tooth injury, which I'm interested to talk 438 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: to McCarthy about, just to figure out what that's about. Um. 439 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: And then looking on the other side, I Sha, I 440 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: know you mentioned this yesterday. When it comes to the Packers, y'all, 441 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: the injury list is substantially have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 442 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: ten players on their practice injury report that did not practice. 443 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm not even going to get into all of the 444 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: names because there's so many of them. I'll put them 445 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: on Twitter. But a banged up Packers roster, to say 446 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: the least, and the biggest one, Rashaun Gary I think 447 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: is going to deeply affect what they do. And David 448 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: Bactieri's another one, so we'll see what's up with him. 449 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: What was his status today? Did not practice? Rashaun Gary 450 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: also did not practice. The only couple of players on 451 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: here who were limited Mason Crosby was limited with a 452 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: back injury. Russell Douglas was limited with a calf Aaron 453 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: Jones at ankle injury, which we touched on a little 454 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: bit yesterday. His status still up in the air. He 455 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: was limited today. Alan Lazard was limited with a shoulder, 456 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: Preston Smith limited, and John Runyon also limited. And then 457 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: there's just Aaron Rodgers, Like, if you really want to 458 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: make a campaign for MVP, this is there to do it, 459 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: a rod And when you juxtapose that about the Cowboys 460 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: are doing, I mean, we'll see what happens with Ezekiel 461 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: Elaton again deep teasing that that'll be after our next break, 462 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: because I've I've got questions, ladies, but they are getting 463 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: back their safety m A lague hooker Sam Williams who 464 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: had the two SAT game here recently. So I think 465 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: that's big. But leave it to Jerry Jones the front 466 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: office to bury the lead this week, because look, the 467 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: story is Dallas is six and two. Raise your hand 468 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: if when you looked at this game coming off the 469 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: bye week that you would be talking about a six 470 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: and two Dallas team facing off against a wait for it, 471 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: a three and six Packers team that are spiraling after 472 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: a fire game industry. First it was I mean to me, 473 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: it was. And don't get wrong, I think Heineke's a 474 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 1: pretty good quarterback of the Commanders the loss of them, 475 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: but then the loss of the the Lions, and then 476 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: you've just kind of heard Aaron Rodgers. I love how 477 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: transparent he is on the Pat McFee show, shout out 478 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: to those guys, um, but he just seems frustrated. He 479 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: seems and I know he brought up something and I 480 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: wasn't going to go here on I shall get you 481 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: away in on this. You know, he brought up those 482 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: comments earlier this season about you know, all this pre 483 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: snap motion and just throw the ball, just run the ball. 484 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: And I actually had an interesting conversation with somebody around 485 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: here about that that the Cowboys as sort of started 486 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: moving away from some of that pre snap motion stuff too, 487 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: because if you've got a good offensive line that's blocking 488 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: for you up front, just throw the dam ball, run 489 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: the dam ball. It's football is really simple. But you've 490 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: got a lot of these like wonder kids out there. 491 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: And I'm talking not just Kellen Moore, We're talking Sean 492 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: McVay and whatever. But these teams were getting to figure 493 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: it out. So I thought that was a really interesting 494 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: discussion that I had as it relates to the Cowboys 495 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: sort of simplifying it and Aaron Rodgers literally telling Matt 496 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: Lafloor simplify the offense, particularly when we don't have some 497 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: of these weapons. You do the pre snap motion so 498 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: you can sort of see what the defense is going 499 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: to show you, but they're saying, look, impose your own will. 500 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: So I thought that was an interesting side note. But 501 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: what was more interesting to me was we heard all 502 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: about and trust me, I've got a lot of people. 503 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: When you're at Combine, they start running their mouths about 504 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, what it was like when Mike McCarthy was 505 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: in Green Bay and the relationship with Aaron Rodgers, and 506 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: even when Mike came here, he said, prior to the CBA, 507 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: he got a lot of time with Aaron Rodgers, you know, 508 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: you would be able to sit around and watch film 509 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: with them, and how he wishes he could do that 510 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: with Dak and how that helped them. But it did 511 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: feel like there was a bit of a falling out, 512 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: and I think that typically happens when you've been around 513 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: somebody for a long time, the message gets lost. But 514 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: listening to Aaron Rodgers talk this weekend, unfortunately weren't able 515 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: to clear the audio from the Pat McAfee show. He 516 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: talked about wanting to give Mike a hug. They want 517 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl together, he was excited to see him. 518 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: And I have noticed even just around here and Jazz, 519 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: we do have the sound from some of the players 520 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: talking about Mike. Correct. Thank you, my lady. I asked 521 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: the players because I was genuinely curious. First year things 522 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: did not go well for Mike McCarthy and a lot 523 00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: of that I was told how to do with the 524 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: fact that it is, you know, COVID, everything was virtual, 525 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: and I think what Mike does really really well is 526 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: the one on one stuff, you know, And it was 527 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: It was Aaron Rodgers who also in this one article 528 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: said they would get into these disagreements, raise their voices 529 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: and at the end hug it out and say, I 530 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: love love and I'm going to tell a story. And 531 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: Mike may not like this if I tell the story. 532 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: But there was a there was a former coach who 533 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: told me that he would sometimes get emotional with them, 534 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, that's a fellow scorpio. Hi, Mike, 535 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: I see you. But there is this very vulnerable side 536 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: to Mike loves his family gets very worked up about it. 537 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: But I think he's beginning to show that really endearing 538 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: side to the players. So I caught up with them, 539 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: and here's what a couple of them had to say 540 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: about their head coach in year three. Just his his 541 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: dedication to the players. This whole schedule is just around, 542 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: you know, keeping us freshen and having us ready to 543 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: go once playoffs come around. And and I'll say, you 544 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: know he's taken when we have a leadership group and 545 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: uh and he he he. We can give him some 546 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: some we can give him some feedback, some feedback, and 547 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, he takes he takes the constructive criticism. How 548 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: many bosses have you, guys, ever worked for that take 549 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: constructive criticism? Um from you as an employee? Well, yeah, 550 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: that was a confusing at first. I was like, oh, several, 551 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: But then I realized the way you said it was 552 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: the your boss getting criticism for you, And yeah, I 553 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: don't know that I've ever Yeah, so I thought I'm 554 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: not That was really really interesting. I had somebody in 555 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: the in the building sort of talk about Mike McCarthy 556 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: versus some of the coaches in the past, and it was, 557 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, and I won't name who the coach was, 558 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: but the coach would ask for your feedback, but not 559 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: really want your feedback, whereas I have we've listened to 560 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, this is dan quinn, We've listened to Mike McCarthy, 561 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: we've listened to players. It feels very collaborative around here, 562 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: like if we don't like something in the playbook, you know, 563 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: I think it was dan Quinney once said this, then 564 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: we'll throw it out. So I thought that was very, 565 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: very interesting. The other thing that stood out to me 566 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: and I I had my suspicions about it in this week, 567 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: the guys are sort of lending some credence to it. 568 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: It's all about protecting your body. I mean, these guys 569 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: have they only have so long in the league, they 570 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: only have so much time to make their money. A 571 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: lot of these guys want to get to that second contract. 572 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: And it sounds like he does such a good job 573 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: of making sure that it's not forcing you on the 574 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: field to win games. It's let's make sure we play 575 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: the long game. We heard Zeke talk about that and again, 576 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: I'm teasing deep ahead of that talking about the long game. 577 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: I just as much as I feel like Mike was 578 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: misunderstood in his first and second year, we begin to 579 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: see those guys pair at him, rally around him. Even 580 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: last week, the fact that he gave all these players 581 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: an entire week out and I won't say who the 582 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: player was, but the player went out of the country 583 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: on vacation. That's unheard of during a bye week. But 584 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: as the player described it to me, he trust us 585 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: to be adults. He trust us, you know, we're grown 586 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: amen treat us like such. And I don't know about 587 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: you guys, but I've at the NFL network is one 588 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: of the first places I've been where I have bosses 589 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: that treat me that way, and I want to run 590 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: through a wall for them. So I just thought that 591 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: was interesting some of the insight from some of the 592 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: players this week as it related to Mike McCarthy going 593 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: back to Green Bay, when there was so much discussion 594 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: about how he wasn't that involved. He was difficult to 595 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: get along with. I don't know if the old dog 596 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: has learned some new tricks, but it seems to be working. 597 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: Is Matt Laflour talked about Mike McCarthy and his press 598 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: conference for a little bit today and he said, yeah, 599 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, we we've talked here and there, but I 600 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: want to get a beer with the guy. And he 601 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: talked about how everybody that talks about Mike McCarthy and 602 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: Green Bay, which is actually surprising considering all the things 603 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 1: you heard back then, has so much respect for him 604 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: and things that they talk about when it comes to 605 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, as far as how good of a guy 606 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: he is, what he does for others, what he does 607 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: for players, how he helps other coaches. I mean, he 608 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: talked very highly of Mike mccarth, even saying, you know, 609 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: how can you not respect a guy that has legacy 610 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: like that in this city? And he said, the guys 611 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: want a Super Bowl. He has a street named after him. 612 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he has so many things in this city. 613 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: So for him, for Matt la Floor to be the coach, 614 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, within that same realm, he said, it was 615 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: even just an honor for him to be in the 616 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: same conversation as somebody like Mike McCarthy. You take me 617 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: back to his intro press conference when he felt so 618 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: out of sorts he looked awkward, he didn't look like 619 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: he'd quite fit in with the group. But it was 620 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Steven or Jerry that 621 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: talked about the way they bonded over dinner and at Middaly, 622 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: Mike and I got off to a bad start. That's 623 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: when I came out with the report about the defensive 624 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: players not being a fan and I questioned a little 625 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: bit of the hiring your best guy friend who and 626 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Mike Nolan not being the best guy 627 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: necessarily for the job, but he did you a solid, 628 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: so you hired him as a solid and he sort 629 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: of took exception with were my source was coming from. Whatever. 630 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: We weren't able to talk it out, and there was 631 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: there was a minute there where I didn't think Mike 632 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: and I during his duration here we're going to be 633 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: able to get along. But we've been able to talk 634 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: it out, figure it out. And we were at a 635 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: Kinney Chesney concert this summer and I took my mom 636 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: and dad there and my dad was like, dad gone wild, 637 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: And I said, don't go up to Dak, don't go 638 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 1: out to Mike, don't take pictures, act like you've been there. 639 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: And of course my dad does that. My Dad's like, 640 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: I'll make you drinks, Mike McCarthy, and he's like behind 641 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: the bar, like making everything. Mike couldn't have been more 642 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: down to earth. My parents walked away with the best 643 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: experience with Mike. And it was in that moment that 644 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: I saw the Mike that I hadn't seen as a reporter, 645 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: especially like I said the first and second you were 646 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: kind of squirrelling with these COVID restrictions about how he 647 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: was endearing himself to these players, and I thought that 648 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: was interesting. Go ahead, Hey, yeah, No, I was just 649 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: gonna say, I'm taking a book from Patrick Walker's or 650 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: taking a page from Patrick Walker's book. And his big 651 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: thing is science and facts, right like facts don't care 652 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: about your feelings. Facts or facts, And I think the 653 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: facts are that Mike McCarthy has proven who he is. 654 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: He doesn't need to walk into a room and ask 655 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: you to like him, because facts or facts. You see 656 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: his resume. We don't need to spew out his record 657 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: and go through all the things he's accomplished. He's done that. 658 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: That's why he's a head coach and he's one of 659 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: the longest tenured head coaches. So I think when you 660 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: factor that in, sure there's an adjustment period. There was 661 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: weird transition with Jason Garrett leaving and then a new 662 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: guy coming in. There's always going to be weird, sometimes 663 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: bad blood. It's it's new. People don't like change, and 664 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys take no exception to that. But I think 665 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: the fact that he's been able to accomplish the relationships, 666 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, you talk about it personally. He's been, you know, 667 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: really polite to me and I've only been here for 668 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: a couple of months. To you guys, yeah, yeah, he does. 669 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: He does too. French. Yeah, he put me aside. We 670 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: were in a Giants game and his oldest daughter was there, 671 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: who is, by the way, absolutely stunning, and he said, hey, Jane, 672 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: I want you to meet my daughter. And given where 673 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: we started three years ago, to that again, it went 674 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: back to the you can have your disagreements, but he's 675 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: the type of guy you can talk and not all 676 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: coaches are like that in the league. A lot of 677 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: people take things very personally. It's an affront to what 678 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 1: they're about, and so I love it. That's been your 679 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: insight about Mike and just your short time here. Yeah, 680 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: I just think it's just I'm not questioning his coaching experience, 681 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, because coming into this, what I know of 682 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy is that he's a winner. So I don't 683 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: need to dig into you know, why don't people like him? 684 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: Why this? Why that all I know of him is that, 685 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, prior to working here said he's a winner, 686 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: and so I just think it's really special that he 687 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: has been able to build those relationships in a short 688 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: amount of time. We're talking two years and you know 689 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: that I guess three, but that first year it was COVID, 690 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: so it was impossible to build relationships. And so now 691 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: the fact that you've got players like jay Ron Curse, 692 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: like Zeke, like all of these guys who were saying 693 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: like that's our dog, you know, like yeah, he can 694 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: come to the cook out like you know what I mean, 695 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: Like they just they want to go to war for him. 696 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: I think every year he set the precedent. I love 697 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: what he said today about dropping little fun facts with 698 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: the players, and it's just it's just another way to 699 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: show like he's going out of his way to make 700 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: sure that they feel seen, they feel heard, they feel protected, 701 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: and they feel confident that they can trust him to 702 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: lead this organization. Haley, he went to Prescott. Boom take 703 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: that he went to Deak Prescott in this draft and said, 704 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: call up these wide receivers. Talk to Jaln Tilbert. That 705 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: is I think, because remember the big knock. Aaron Rodgers 706 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: kind of felt like he was out of the you know, 707 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: the draft process and having a say. And there's a 708 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks in the league that feel like, you know, 709 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: this is my team. And there's two schools of thought 710 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: on that. But the fact that and I had asked 711 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: Dak this, has that ever happened to you before? And 712 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: he said no. But I think that's a big deal 713 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: to entrust your guys and say, hey, it's not I'm 714 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 1: not taking it to basketball games. And I think that's 715 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: a look. I think that's what was And I heard 716 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: it from a lot of players how divisive that was 717 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 1: when Jason would go with Cole or DeMarco or Tony 718 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: or Witten, and you're sending the message that Mike doesn't 719 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: do that. I don't see Mike go into the stars 720 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: games with the players. And I had a coach for 721 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: another team tell me it's the wrong thing to do 722 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: because it sends the wrong message. And I think Mike 723 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: gets that. He allowed his players to sort of lead 724 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: by example. Let Micah invite these guys, and so I 725 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: think he's long story short, I think he's built a 726 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 1: very interesting culture here. I think he's rewrote a narrative 727 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: about him as he was leaving Green Bay. I don't 728 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: know how long he's going to stay here. What I 729 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: do know about him, it seems that he really values 730 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: his family, and so I could see him at some 731 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 1: point saying, you know what, I've accomplished plenty. But what's 732 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 1: more important to me is he's just really stood out 733 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: to me as a guy that puts his family first. 734 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: And I think that's interesting in the game of football. 735 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: But also, you've already got to your point, what do 736 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: you have to prove? Yeah, you've got a Lombardi and 737 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: you've lost so many players the last couple of years, 738 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: and now we're looking at it was a winning record 739 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: last season, and you're looking at being about five hundred 740 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: right now. Now. I just wanted to input on just 741 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: the conversation of Mike McCarthy and kind of what he's 742 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: done here culturally. I remember saying to Jess last week 743 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 1: during the by like when was the last time the 744 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys had to buy? You weren't holding your breath that 745 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: someone was going to get in trouble or something. And 746 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: I think it trickle trickles down from even looking at 747 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: the attendance from rookie minicamp OTAs the attendance has been 748 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: one hundred percent almost since he's been here. I think 749 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: all of that has to do is that even him 750 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: right and the wrong with firing Mike Nolan after making, 751 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, seeing that he was wrong there, getting dan 752 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: Quinn in here before the draft so dan Quinn could 753 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: have an imp like could implement what he wanted defensively. 754 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: I think that is a big part of, you know, 755 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: the step forward is a man saying like or just 756 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: a human in general, saying I was wrong here, let 757 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: me fix this, and so to me, that's when things 758 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: start to turn the tide. I this offseason, I really 759 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: started to understand him completely the install, how serious he 760 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: was about the install. Everything has reason with him and 761 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: people ask questions, what does he do? What does he do? 762 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: He keeps these players mentally and emotionally, they're very whasically basically, 763 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: they're very aware and when you're talking about the NFL now, right, 764 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: these players are younger coming in, Like I think sometimes 765 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: we forget that these are twenty two, twenty three year 766 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: old some of these guys. And you even heard Joe W. 767 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 1: Junior last week talk about in the assistance of interviews, 768 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: like he's even learning and he's taken he's taken a 769 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: page out of Mike McCarthy's book on how to talk 770 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: to these players and approach them, because just think about it, 771 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: just because they're football players doesn't mean they're not human. 772 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: Think about every twenty two twenty one year old, you know, yeah, 773 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: and imagine how to gauge, how to gauge, how to 774 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: mentally and emotionally relate to them and understand them. And 775 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: I think you're seeing this shift in coaching I think 776 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: is important for this game. And what how if we're 777 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: gonna be aware of mental health, physical health and bettering 778 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: players and concussion all this stuff or whatever, you have 779 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 1: to have coaches that actually give it down. Jayron Curse 780 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 1: told me a couple of weeks ago in Cowboys Hour, 781 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: just you know, I said, how special is it to 782 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: have a coach like Mike McCarthy and just spewed nothing 783 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: but compliments about you know, he's an easy guy to 784 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: play for. You know, he makes you want to win. 785 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: He makes you feel like you're taking care. He makes 786 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 1: you feel like a person, which is what I talked 787 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: about yesterday. It's so important to remind these cowboys fans 788 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: and remind the NFL fans that they're all people first. Yeah, 789 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,919 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. At MIT this point, they're 790 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: grown men. Yeah, you know. It's not college, you know, 791 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: And you don't have to yell at somebody like I 792 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: always would tell my sister, and my sister and I 793 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: get into some famous debates, the loudest person in the 794 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: room doesn't get hurt. And you see some of these 795 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: coaches that are their way of getting their point across 796 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 1: is to yell at you and shame you. And it's 797 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: just it's been interesting as we've gotten more access with COVID, 798 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: because we didn't really get that and Mike unfortunately wasn't 799 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: getting the benefit of the doubt. But he did something 800 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: with us that I hadn't been a part of. He 801 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: would do with the beat writers, but he opened it 802 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: up to those of US national Ed and I at 803 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 1: ESPN and NFL Network where we had this entire off 804 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: the records sit down, and he did every Friday. Yeah, 805 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: but he couldn't have been more transparent and vulnerable and 806 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: allowed us to sort of bury the hatchet and sort 807 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: of turn the page. And there are coaches. I mean 808 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: that report led to one of his best friends losing 809 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: his job. He could have helped the grudge. And he 810 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: didn't respect how I sourced it. I respect how he 811 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 1: felt about that, but we were able to have a 812 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: very run on his conversation, and so I thought, if 813 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: he could do that with the media member, he's doing 814 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 1: that even more so within his own organization of players. 815 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, I just think it's interesting. And even if 816 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: you look at the way that the media covers him 817 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: this year and the way he interacts with them, he's 818 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: settled in. I think even just him changing like I 819 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: should I had wrote down here, he changes the status 820 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: quo of the conversation of mental health and players mental 821 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: health being a priority to him because a lot of people, 822 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 1: unfortunately we live in this world where it's so stigmatized 823 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: and you have this mentality of up just deal with it, 824 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to sports, and Mike McCarthy would 825 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: never put a player in a position to just deal 826 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: with it, even if it's not a physical injury. 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I've got about five 873 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: minutes to breathe through this segment, and I'm sure it's 874 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: very important to a lot of Cowboys fans. I don't 875 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: know of Zeke's playing on Sunday, y'all. Here's why. Normally 876 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 1: he's pretty bullish, like I'm gonna play. When he walked 877 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: off from the media scrum, it was me and Clarence 878 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: Hill Jr. And he said the plan is to go. 879 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: I said, what did you do during the bye week? 880 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: He said he worked on the underwater treadmill. He was 881 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: working with the ice. He even told us in the 882 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: scrum if I play, which I thought was interesting, it'll 883 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: be with a smaller brace. But he kept mentioning the 884 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 1: long game and even though we got some practice in 885 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: this week. I said, well, you know you had said 886 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily need practice in order to play. He's like, well, 887 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,240 Speaker 1: the staff wants to see me do a couple of things. 888 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting. More importantly, the run defense 889 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: that they're facing this week, it ain't good. It's poress. 890 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's not good. It's it's bottom of the barrel. 891 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 1: What is it? Twenty six? The run defense for the 892 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: Vikings is stout. We're talking tenth in the league. So 893 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: you were able to get the job done with Tony 894 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: Pollard against the Bears and their porous rundy. I don't 895 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: think it's a terrible idea to give Zeke three weeks 896 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: to totally hill up. And then, as I made the 897 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: argument ahead of du buy, it's a Tony Pollard contract here. 898 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,720 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard told me after that game that more reps 899 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 1: for running backs are a big deal because it gets 900 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 1: you in a rhythm, you get going. This allows the 901 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: front office to see what they're getting from him, and 902 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: this also allows you the opportunity to have the one 903 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: two punch of Ezekiel Elliott and Tony Pollard down the stretch. 904 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 1: Your thoughts. Do you want Zeek playing in this one? 905 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: Whatever's best for him? I mean, I think Black we 906 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 1: just talked about, thinks schematically you could get away with 907 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: it again, just like with Detroit or whatever the case 908 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: may or the Bears. Rather you could get away with it. 909 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 1: Is he gonna want to sit that long? Or because 910 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's too if you're going to gets another 911 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: not so good Russian defense and TP goes off again 912 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: the ridiculous amount of just conversation and whatever happened. So 913 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: it's just for me, I think they can get away 914 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: with it, And I just want him to take care 915 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: of his body if it's something that's bother him right now, 916 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna need him later. Yeah, that's exactly what I 917 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 1: was going to say. Think where my concern comes from is, 918 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, December twenty fourth is approaching really really quickly 919 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: for this team, and I really really believe that this 920 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: is a Cowboys team that can win out As a 921 00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: approach that game, do you want Zeek in your lineup 922 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: every time? Right? I think the value that he brings 923 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: to this franchise is immeasurable. Are you facing a run 924 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: defense that you could do without Zeek? Another week, absolutely, 925 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: especially if Noah Brown coming back well and Rashaun Gary 926 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,919 Speaker 1: being out is huge because he's one of the best 927 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: edges against the run. And then when you obviously the 928 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: conversation comes up with Zeke, like, Okay, well he's not 929 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: there for pass pro you may need with this team 930 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: help from your Titans. Finally, definitely get some help from you. 931 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: But that's always the argument of him not being on 932 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: the field pass pro press. You may not need it 933 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: with what's going on over the right now. I think 934 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: you said him, and I'm gonna be the one to 935 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: say it. You sit him. He doesn't need to play 936 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: this week. Sit Zeke. If you don't believe me, go 937 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: watch the Lions game against Green Bay because I wrote 938 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: this down first things First, takes it that the Lions 939 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: were on track to give up more points than any 940 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: team in the history of the NFL before this game. Okay, 941 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: so statistically this means the Lions defense were possibly the 942 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 1: worst in the history of the NFL and Aaron Rodgers 943 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: couldn't find a way to score. So you do not 944 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: need to play Zeke this week period. I think if 945 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 1: you get away with not playing gags, don't two weeks 946 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 1: he can get away, you can forget it. And I 947 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: think what we're saying here, it's not being disrespectful to Zeke, 948 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: but I felt Bobby about my producer for NFL Network 949 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: also want to five through the fan shout out. He 950 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: found a fun little nugget ahead of pre game last 951 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: week that the Cowboys were five and oho in games 952 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: without Zeke. They are now six and ozo in games 953 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: without Zeke. And again that's not a shade, that's not 954 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,240 Speaker 1: saying Zeke shouldn't be on the field. But the point 955 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: is against their opponent this week, they can get away 956 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: with it. Yea. And I feel like this team is 957 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: doing a better job of saying, how can we look 958 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,320 Speaker 1: at at the long game? And also if Zeke was 959 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 1: struggling last year, and you know it showed at times, 960 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: you know when he got injured in Week four, then 961 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 1: reinjured it and it really limited his explosiveness. Give him 962 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: those three weeks to get healed, because I do think 963 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,399 Speaker 1: that that game against Minnesota is going to be it's 964 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a good one. Well, Also, I would rather 965 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 1: have a healthy Zeke against the Eagles, who have a 966 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 1: very easy schedule as compared to the Packers. Who have 967 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: a losing schedule already or a losing record and then 968 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: a very hard schedule ahead of them. So the likelihood 969 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: of the Packers winning out is very low, the likelihood 970 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 1: of the Eagles winning out very high. So, well, you 971 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 1: might battling with Minnesota for a spot at some point 972 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: and if you're both seven in two heading into this game. 973 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 1: So yeah, I and I think we're all circling that 974 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving game rematch with the Eagles. Well, the Christmas Day, 975 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: Christmas Day, Yeah, it get Christmas Day. That's a game 976 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 1: that everyone says, that's the game that's everyone's circling, and 977 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,439 Speaker 1: that's when you want Zeke to be at his best. 978 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: That's what I would rather have Zeke for a very 979 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 1: merry Christmas as compared to a Sunday where they could 980 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: easily win this game with or without him. All Right, well, 981 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like we have time for past interference 982 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 1: to save it for tomorrow for me, jess um, but 983 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: enjoyed the discussion with you, ladies. This is gonna be 984 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 1: a fun game this weekend, and we will see you tomorrow. 985 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 986 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football club