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Speaker 1: All right. So it is the month of New Beginnings

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Speaker 1: on Velvet's Edge, and we've done a lot of different topics.

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Speaker 1: High Chip. By the way, could you guys both turn

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Speaker 1: your volume up a little bit because I want the

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Speaker 1: people to be able to hear you as much as

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Speaker 1: they hear me. Um. So it's the month of new beginnings,

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Speaker 1: and Chip and I have also told you guys, we're

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Speaker 1: going to start interviewing people. This is our first interview together.

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Speaker 1: I feel a little nervous. Yeah, breaking the cherry. That's

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Speaker 1: actually called popping. This is this is when you know

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Speaker 1: you're a gay man the cherry. So yes, we're popping

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Speaker 1: Chips interview Jerry. So glad I can be the one

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Speaker 1: to do that with you and we have a really

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Speaker 1: special guest. I'm so excited about this. When I think

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Speaker 1: about January, I always think about setting up my life

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Speaker 1: to give me the best start for the year. And

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Speaker 1: one of the things I really struggle with in my

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Speaker 1: life is being organized. Like I not I'm gonna create

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Speaker 1: of thrive in that world, but I cannot function when

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Speaker 1: it comes to like details. A lot of times like

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Speaker 1: that is not my strong suit. However, when I am

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Speaker 1: functioning at my highest capacity. Usually things are in order,

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Speaker 1: and I have both of those working together. So we

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Speaker 1: wanted to bring in someone to help us with this

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Speaker 1: and get a really good fresh start in a new

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Speaker 1: beginning to the year of two after the chaos of

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Speaker 1: all the insanity we've dealt with the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: So Ria Stafford is here. She is the founder of Reorganized,

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Speaker 1: which is an organization company that will get into and

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Speaker 1: I want to hear all the details about that. Hi, Rhea,

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Speaker 1: let's say you guys, Okay, I didn't realize this was

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Speaker 1: like our first threesome. I like the way that you

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Speaker 1: put that. Yeah, first three with two women. Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: that is too good. Oh my gosh, you guys. I

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Speaker 1: am so excited to be here, truly, thank you. I

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Speaker 1: was so excited to have you and yes, this is

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Speaker 1: all of our well it's our first threesome in some capacity.

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Speaker 1: I like the quick edit there. Yeah, I mean, because

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Speaker 1: I know Chips story, you know, so I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: we would be led down a whole different podcast if

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Speaker 1: that's more to the sex and dating version of the Edge.

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Speaker 1: So maybe we'll have you back, please do So. I

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Speaker 1: loved your story. When your rep reached out to me.

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Speaker 1: There was such an interesting thing that caught me in

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Speaker 1: the initial email, and she was like, yeah, RHA's story

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Speaker 1: is really cool because she was ten days out of

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Speaker 1: having this baby and Jen Atkin, the celebrity hairstyle is

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Speaker 1: called and you said, yes, when do you need me

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Speaker 1: to come organize your house? And I'm like, ten days

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Speaker 1: very true story and literally one of my favorites. Um please,

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Speaker 1: this was a couple yeah, yeah, So this was a

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Speaker 1: starting a couple of years into starting my business. I

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Speaker 1: just like I feel like this was really important. Obviously

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Speaker 1: because Jen said something is crazy to me. For someone

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Speaker 1: How did you know? I mean, because speaking of new beginners,

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Speaker 1: I guess, for one, I've never been one to take

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Speaker 1: Um patients is zero. Like the longest I've waited for

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Speaker 1: they're so ready to take this step that they're wanting

429
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: to learn as much as they can, they're wanting to

430
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: maintain it. Um I there's always going to be a

431
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 1: need for us, because if it's not to go back

432
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: and do someone's pantry again, it's gonna be for whatever

433
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 1: the next season brings, it's gonna be. It's you know,

434
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: our additional projects with clients are going to be new

435
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: spaces or just new seasons in their life. You know,

436
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: eventually all the kid jumpers and barbies go away and

437
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 1: it's soccer cleats and nerf guns and you know, it's

438
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: there's always is this evolution of your home and in

439
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: your routines and in your your habits and the thing

440
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: your hobbies. I mean, everything just changes all the time.

441
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 1: And so I feel like we're kind of those people

442
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: that can be with you all along the way. But

443
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: it isn't necessary that we have to go in and

444
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: keep refreshing the same spaces. But some clients are like,

445
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, absolutely, Like basically we want you guys

446
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 1: like a housekeeper. Once you do the whole big shipping

447
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: keep coming, which I'm all for too, because some people

448
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: just want everything like so or you know, we have

449
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: clients you know who have a staff who are maintaining

450
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: their spaces, Which that's always an interesting thing because we

451
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: want to do something that makes sense for the people

452
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: maintaining it, but we wanted to be liked by the

453
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: people who are paying for it, and you're just kind

454
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: of navigating different people. Um. But we do like teaching

455
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: the staff how we're folding things, where we're putting things away,

456
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: asking them what their routines are, because we just we

457
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: want the home to move smoothly and at the end

458
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: of the day, you should just have this routine ready

459
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: home that whatever you're doing, there's not even a thought

460
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: of like, oh my gosh, like the straw driving nets

461
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: at breaking cabinet, like we all have that, like those

462
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: spaces that you're just like, oh my god, I'll get

463
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: to it, but I didn't want to say about your closet.

464
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: Is Also there's a difference between going in and like

465
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: tidying things up, like putting everything back exactly how you

466
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: had it, but getting everything you know with its category

467
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: and feeling really good and then doing a full assessment

468
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: of like okay, wait is where I put everything to

469
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: begin with? Even correct why am I not maintaining so

470
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: when we go in, We're not just like, oh my gosh, okay,

471
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: like we just want this all to look really nice.

472
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: We're just gonna switch out hangars and we're going to

473
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: keep things where you had it, Like we're really going

474
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: in and reassessing everything. Perfect example is a couple of

475
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 1: weeks ago, we're on a project. We're in the closet.

476
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: It's a really big closet, but it was is feeling

477
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 1: kind of crazy, and there were these two really high

478
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: shelves stacked with denim, like so much denim, And I'm like,

479
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: how is this working out for you? And she's like,

480
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: I honestly don't love it. And I'm like, how do

481
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 1: you feel about holded jeans versus hanging? She's like, oh

482
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: my gosh, I would I would love hanging. I feel

483
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: like that'd be so much easier. I was like, I

484
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: don't know how you're grabbing all these this just this

485
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it's working. And so we literally eliminated

486
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: those shelves and added three hanging rods and hung all

487
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: of them, and that, like that change was so major,

488
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: not only visually because it's it's a lot harder for

489
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: it to feel out of sorts when everything is hung

490
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: versus having to fold something exactly. But we really asked

491
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: the question of is this even something that's working for

492
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: you or can it completely be changed? That is such

493
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: a good tip in and of itself, just to look

494
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: in your rooms, I mean, the closets the perfect example.

495
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: A pantry is probably also another good one, Like I

496
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: feel like are my refrigerator can get really out of whack,

497
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: but asking myself like what is the thing that I'm

498
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: struggling so much to maintain and why isn't that working?

499
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: Like kind of the wise behind it like we do

500
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: with every else in our life. I mean, but it's

501
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 1: just applying it to actual organization, which I've never even

502
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: thought of. It's mostly for me about does this look

503
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: good in the moment, and like Chips said, go clean it,

504
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: go get it set up, but you can't maintain it.

505
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: And it's there's certain things like there are going to

506
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: be little habits you have to keep doing over and

507
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: over and over and then to become just part of

508
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: your regular routine. Um, because that's always something we have

509
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: to share. Two, we've definitely had the clients before that

510
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: are like I don't get it, like it doesn't look

511
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: like how you guys did anymore. You have to do

512
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: your part in it too. Like, once we do it,

513
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: berries aren't just putting everything back and keeping everything straight

514
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: and making it look perfect. Now, it's we've created the foundation,

515
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,239
Speaker 1: the blueprint. You know, we even did the first set up,

516
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: but it's going to be your job to maintain that.

517
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: I totally lost my train of thought where I was going.

518
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: We were talking about just the maintaining and making sure

519
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: it's the little habits and so something like one of

520
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: my biggest problems is I I moved so quickly all

521
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: the time period to where if I try something on

522
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: I don't like it, I'm not hanging it right back

523
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: then because you might go back to it. This is

524
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: like when I'm trying on clothes, I'm like, I could

525
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: maybe do that outfit, but probably not, but I'm gonna

526
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: throw it on the ground instead of hanging I wish

527
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: I had that excuse, Like I know. And so even here,

528
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm a professional organizer. We last year alone three hundred

529
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: and fifty different projects, Like I mean, this is all

530
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: all I do, and I'm still needing to prioritize organization

531
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: in my own regularly it's like the last thing you

532
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: want to do when you get home is organized your

533
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: own ship. Yeah, it's like the shoemaker's kids have no shoes, right,

534
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: the girl who does makeup who never wears makeup. That's

535
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: so funny, but honestly, um, well, I love that tip.

536
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: And then I was gonna ask you because I know

537
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: Chips that when whenever I told him we were gonna

538
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: be talking to you, he was like started to look

539
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: at his house and he just came in with all

540
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: of a sudden he was like, oh my god, I

541
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: have so many questions. And so for people like us

542
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: who maybe or just people listening who can't afford a

543
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: service like yours, but there's they're but they're looking to

544
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: maybe get a start. Is there one thing other than

545
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: looking at the systems like you were just talking about

546
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: that you would tell people as a place to start, Like,

547
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: is there something you could name for us? Because I

548
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: know one of the things that keeps me from ever

549
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: even going into organization is the overwhelmed feeling of not

550
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: knowing where to start. I think I'm gonna give a

551
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: two partner because I always think the first thing that

552
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 1: is so necessary. Okay, he's a three partner. But okay, Um,

553
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: first you have to be in the mindset, you have

554
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: to want to do it. You have to be like,

555
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: this is something I want to tackle, this is something

556
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: I want to take on. And you have to know

557
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: kind of what capacity you're able to do that because

558
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: if you if you overload your plate, you're gonna get

559
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: overwhelmed and you're gonna bail. Um. And that kind of

560
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: goes hand in hand with the second part, which is allowed,

561
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: like giving yourself the appropriate amount of time because I

562
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: can't tell like, you know, oh, I have an hour,

563
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, in between picking up kids or whatever. Let

564
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: me go reorganize my closet. You're dumping stuff, You've got piles,

565
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: but then you've got to stop, and then everything just

566
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: goes right back in. It's just this band aid you

567
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: keep ripping off and putting back on. You're not giving

568
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: it the proper amount of time to even do anything.

569
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: But I would say before spending any money on anything,

570
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: which you really shouldn't do to well into the process.

571
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: Um as far as like product and everything, you need

572
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: to know what you have. So our approach is really

573
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: it's less about what we're making clients get rid of

574
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: or encouraging them to get rid of weren't encouraging them

575
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: to be reintroduced to are items to be reintroduced to

576
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: the things that they bought and collected and kept over

577
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: the years. Why do you have it? Do you still

578
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: want it? Do you love it? Do you want to

579
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: see it? Do you use it? Figuring out just what

580
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: everything is? Because I think the number one thing is

581
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: people are like, I have no clue, what the hell's

582
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: not hallway closet? Did you even tell you one of

583
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: those bins up there? And I think just knowing your

584
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: inventory to begin with is major. And being able to

585
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: edit the things that you no longer want, need, love use.

586
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: What have you just removing those items from your space? Well,

587
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: one make you just feel like a weight has been lifted.

588
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: Two give you so much encouragement and just give you

589
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: so much momentum to keep things going, because now it's like, Okay,

590
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: now I know everything in here. I love prioritizing off

591
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: of This is a really long answer to your question.

592
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: You're like one thing, I'm like, here's the whole. Hey,

593
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm like taking notes though, literally this is soul up

594
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: because I know how freak and stressful it is but

595
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: I feel like it's been so like overcomplicated for right

596
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be. You just like just

597
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: those little things of being in the right mindset, giving

598
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: yourself the right amount of time, and knowing your inventory

599
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: before you're figuring out systems where things are placed and

600
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: all of that, which even that you're placing based on priority,

601
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: things you use often things you need are the most accessible,

602
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: and you work your way outwards to think about it

603
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: and m sense. It makes so much sense and it

604
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: sounds so simple, but it's something that I wouldn't have

605
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: thought of my own. Like I can't tell you how

606
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: many times I have bought something and then remembered I

607
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: actually already have that because of exactly what you're saying,

608
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: Like I just I'm so unaware of the ship that's

609
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: floating around my house because it's not it's buried somewhere

610
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: and I forgot to have it. And it's amazing what

611
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: just knowing what you have exactly? Yeah. Yeah, I'm a

612
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: record collector and it's like sometimes I'll be in a

613
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: record store and be like, oh, I should buy this,

614
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait, do I have this record? Like so? Um,

615
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: I mean I think to me like there's a lot

616
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: of shame in being messy because I feel like the

617
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: general populace would say that, like it's inherently bad to

618
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: be messy, but I don't. I mean, I think it's

619
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: bad to be dirty. Like you said, you're messy and dirty. Um.

620
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: And you know from some of the research that I did,

621
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: like the messiness is um is equated to creativity A lot.

622
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: I wonderful I found. I found a really interesting quote

623
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: because Einstein famously at a messy desk and he said,

624
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: if a if a, if a I've wrote oh if

625
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: I even wrote it down, messy. Um. Basically what a

626
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: cluttered if a cluttered desk is a sign of a

627
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: cluttered mind of what then is an empty desk assign

628
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: Which is really interesting because he was like, oh, Mike Drop,

629
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: So I look around my really messy office and I'm like,

630
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: maybe I'm e' Instein. Honestly, I'm readers. It's just going.

631
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think a lot of it's

632
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: like a lot of people don't want to admit that

633
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: they're messy because there is some shame in it. So

634
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: how do we how do people get past like they're like, Okay,

635
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: this is not just my problem, and maybe it is.

636
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: It's like maybe you overconsume, maybe you're just a comcrascinator,

637
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: or maybe you're all these other things that cause you

638
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: to be messy, and you're not a mess and you

639
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: have to tell you that. I think there's even a

640
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: difference in what kind of messy someone is, because the

641
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: messy I was is a like an organized messy. Like

642
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of messy people would be like, oh, yeah,

643
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: I know where that hair tige is. Totally. It's like

644
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: you just you know where things are. And I think

645
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: that there's there's an organized chaos, which is kind of

646
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: just always has been me like just kind of all

647
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: over the place, but it's kind of when there's no

648
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: rhyme or reason to it, that it's taken a new meaning.

649
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's the difference. Like I feel

650
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: like if you were to walk into your space and

651
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: just be like, I don't even recognize what's happening here,

652
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: I've I've fully lost all control, that's something to really

653
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: evaluate further versus just like, oh my god, like I've

654
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: had this pile of this pile of this pile of this,

655
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: but you know what everything is and you know, you

656
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 1: just kind of keep sliding it around like that's different

657
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: in my eyes. Maybe that's that's how I am. And

658
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to do any words than what it is,

659
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: um but I mean, I would hate for anyone to

660
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: feel shame about it. Everyone. And there's so many reasons behind,

661
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: like deeper reasons to how we're maintaining our space. And

662
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: for so long it was always you know, your space

663
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: or what would people say that, like your space affects

664
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: your mental health? Like, you know, I think that's true.

665
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: I do. I I totally do too. And what I've

666
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: realized over these last couple of months, and I've been

667
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: sharing more and more, is that I'm noticing that my

668
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: space is a reflection of my mental health. It's the opposite.

669
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: Like when I'm feeling just good on it, on my routine,

670
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm taking care of my space is better Versus when

671
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm starting to feel overwhelmed out of sorts, like I

672
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: don't have a handle on anything, like I'm drowning, I

673
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: start to let everything go bad. So it's like I

674
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: feel like it's the opposite way, if that makes sense,

675
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: Like my mind is affecting my space versus my space

676
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: affecting my mind, or I think it's just kind of

677
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: this endless cycle with austin power. It's because I'm fat.

678
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: I fat. It's honestly that where you're just like, I mean,

679
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: that's how I get stuck in that in a cycle

680
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: all the time. And you know, of course having this business,

681
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, am I like a sham, like what

682
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: like like I let my spaces get like this and

683
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: that makes me feel terrible. But then I'm like, no,

684
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: I do have systems, and when I just take the

685
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: time to put things back, it's everything has a home

686
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: and things that are working for me. It's really that

687
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: extra step of just, oh my god, put your ship back.

688
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: That's my problem. Yeah. I actually love that you struggle

689
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: with it too, because it gives me hope. And I

690
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: don't know if you feel like that ship. But just

691
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: to hear an organizers say, you know, I'm not perfect

692
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: at it, and I think that's the pressure we all

693
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: put on ourselves. Or it's about taking the time. Like

694
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: my mom is a very organized person and she always

695
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: says to me when I'm getting overwhelmed by my mess,

696
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: like start with a drawer, don't like try to do

697
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,479
Speaker 1: the whole kitchen in one sitting, Like, do one drawer

698
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: at a time, take thirty minutes or whatever and just

699
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: clean out a drawer, and that way you're not so

700
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: overwhelmed because it just even the idea of doing a

701
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: whole room, sometimes it's too much for me. Like the

702
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: joy that that brings right fuels for the next that's

703
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: exactly right, the whole kitchen, right, Yeah, I mean I

704
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: really get this. Hi, Kelly and I both were Um,

705
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: we both live alone. So you have three children, You

706
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: have an excuse mess in your life. So I think

707
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: the shame is a lot easier for us to have

708
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: because the mess that exists. I mean, I have two

709
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: dogs and that's not an excuse. So what's my excuse

710
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: to where are you going with this? Your ears is

711
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: all your receipts, All those receipts on your table. I'm

712
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: looking at my clients and left they're fucking wardrobe. Goddamnit.

713
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: But oh my god, pictures of receipts. I know that's

714
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: a great idea that we live in a digital age,

715
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, I think it's easier for us

716
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: to feel shamed because the mess that we look out

717
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: is ours. I also think it's funny too, And Kelly

718
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: can attest to this, like there's something like we'll be

719
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: you know, our friends are playing on getting together and

720
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys, I've got to clean my house

721
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: like it's a mess, and I do it, and then

722
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: I'll go over to someone else's house and I'm like

723
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: this not Kelly's or not any of all, like your

724
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: close friends, and I'm like, my house is not a mess,

725
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: Like it's not nearly as gross than everyone. Yeah, it's

726
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: like patting himself on the back office is another story.

727
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: You just have high standards. That's it. It's interesting too

728
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: because like as messy, I mean, my room literally looked

729
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: like I was the opposite of rock, Like someone just

730
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: came in and like I don't even know, just like

731
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 1: in there. But my schoolwork and my desks have always

732
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: been very orderly. Like I was the crazy, Like I

733
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: was that bag with her planner all the different color highlighters,

734
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: and I was like what are we doing and like

735
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, just getting way into it, like you know

736
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: what I was going to do on the weekend, Like

737
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: I've kept all my high school planners because it's a journal.

738
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: At this point, like I was just like on point,

739
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: but everything else wasn't like that. And I feel like

740
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: some people, like you know, a chef maybe super super

741
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: anal about the way that they maintain you know, a

742
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: portion of their pantry for what they do, but maybe

743
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: their closets the disaster Like it's it's interesting how it's

744
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: not always everything. It's like certain areas. I don't know,

745
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: maybe that's just me. I think it's really interesting. Well,

746
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: Chips touched on the fact that you have three kids,

747
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 1: which we've talked about, is how you got really into

748
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: this business too. But I want to know, um, if

749
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: there is a way to help children with organization, because

750
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: I know we have a lot of moms who listen,

751
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: and it's just it's got to be a lot to

752
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: manage your own messiness, your husband or your Yeah, there's

753
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: just like so many people running around your house, so

754
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: how do you keep that straight? Um? Yeah, No, kids

755
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: are insane, and it's it's very important to approach children

756
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: based on their age. If there's anything I've learned from

757
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: this whole process, and I always say that like zero

758
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: to two range, it's more what's going to make sense

759
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: for you as the parent, Like they're not going and

760
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: looking for their certain category are of toys like nothing

761
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: they play with. Honestly, even past that age makes sense.

762
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: They'll grab like a toy car, hairbrush, a two two,

763
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: and you don't even know what's going on. They're not

764
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: grabbing things within the same category. They're not playing with

765
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: play sets together, they just grab random things. So catch

766
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: alls when kids are that young is just so important.

767
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: Catch alls being maybe it's a cube system, you know,

768
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: maybe it's canvas cubes or baskets that you're not seeing through,

769
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: Like this isn't the time for see through organization when

770
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: you have little little babies. Um, if it's something that's

771
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: going to be out in the open of a room,

772
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 1: if you have a closet or something, you know, see

773
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: through is always great for you to help maintain things.

774
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: But having things like cubes where it's general categories you know,

775
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: little puppets, stuffed animals, big cars, uh, figurines, whatever. Because

776
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, as the parent, you're

777
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: the one going in and picking that up, so it

778
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: needs to make sense for you. But as they get older,

779
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: like even as they you know, the year and a

780
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: half in the two year old phase, um, like my

781
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: could love the whole cleanup song whatever. And that's really

782
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: like honest as parents to encourage picking up after they

783
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: play with things. And I I mean, I'm definitely not

784
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 1: getting on a soapbox here, because we will go weeks

785
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: with things just being totally nuts. Um, but I feel

786
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: like it helps kids understand like, hey, one, let's find

787
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: what we're looking for, Like they should learn the lay

788
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: of the land, and then hey, we're done, let's put

789
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: everything back or all the all the cars are out,

790
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: let's put them all back in this basket. That's something

791
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: such a small child can do. And then as they

792
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: start to get older, you can start to micro organize

793
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: versus that macro big categories. Right. Um so, now my girls,

794
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: that can be like dolls, doll accessories, you know, my

795
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: little l O l oh, my gosh, the l l dolls.

796
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: I can't anxiety all those little pieces now. And now

797
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: it's like everything is a surprise egg. I'm like, what

798
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: the hell for those shoes? Don't stay all those all dolls? No,

799
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: And that's your whole day is just can you put

800
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: this back on? Can you can you get her shirt

801
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: back on? Can you take this stirt off? Yes? This

802
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: I'm always like putting arms back on. I'm like, she's

803
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: been through a lot. We're done. I'm sugared even talking

804
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: about this, but yeah, you can start to do more

805
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: micro organizing, you know, labeling with pictures, you know, before

806
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: they know words, then starting to use very general words

807
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: as they're starting to learn reading. You know, my daughter's

808
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: almost seven. She can read actual words now, which is

809
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: really tening because I'm like, you know, break an excuse,

810
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: you can read what that says, put it back in

811
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: it um. And also getting them involved in the purging

812
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: or just really going through things. I want them to

813
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: know what they have. You know, we did that before

814
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: Christmas time. It's just like we need to get rid

815
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: of anything we can for a bunch of new stuff

816
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: comes in. And it was cool because early on I

817
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: was working for you know, different family friends or you

818
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: know moms through Mommy and Me's, so a lot of

819
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: random things were like, oh my gosh, take this home

820
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: for your kids, which I mean now is a business,

821
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: we're not like taking our clients things, but it was

822
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: early on it was like, oh my gosh, okay things,

823
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: that's so nice. Um. And so my kids got to

824
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: learn early on, like hey, you know there was a

825
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: little girl that decided she didn't want these anymore, and

826
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: now you get to play with these, Like how special

827
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: is that? Yeah, he didn't just go nowhere, you know,

828
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: you get to play with this. And so when I

829
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: kind of positioned it like that, like oh my gosh,

830
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: what are we gonna pick for other little girls and

831
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: boys to play with? Like, then they feel like wow,

832
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: like look at like we're that's so nice of us

833
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: to be able to do that, and you know, and

834
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: I think it's important for them to understand, like it's

835
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: just it's not all about them having their stuff all

836
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: the time. Like we're trying not to raise just like

837
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: entitled a holes. Um. So I want them to to

838
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: understand like, hey, there's more than just you, and you

839
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: actually have more toys than so many kids will have

840
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: in their lifetime. And it's like I get really called

841
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: up and trying to say these really deep things to

842
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: my kids and they're like, okay, whole story totally because

843
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: I'm just like listen people, and they're just like, hey,

844
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: this like really took a turn, right, They're like final,

845
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: puts away. Stop Seriously. I know with my two girls,

846
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: I am starting to get some sassy attitudes. But those

847
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: are all little things that I have found helped for me.

848
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: I know I covered like a lot of different phases,

849
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 1: but yeah, I love the sharing tip. That's a really

850
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: good one. And then the boxes. I think that's super

851
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 1: important to have the labels on the boxes everything place.

852
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: And I love the idea of even starting them early

853
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: because it's like once things become a habit, then your

854
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: mind kind of goes to that versus I'm just gonna

855
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: leave that on the ground whatever. Totally. My niece, so,

856
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: my my first niece, who's now thirteen years old. When

857
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: my sister had her, she was a single mom, so

858
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: out of necessity, she very very early was like making

859
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: made clean cleaning up after yourself a fun thing. And

860
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: it's so crazy because like you saw it very early,

861
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: like she kale is her name. She loved to clean

862
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: up after herself, and it was something that like actually

863
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: helped my sister because she's like trying to feed the

864
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: kid and do all the things. It's like it's all

865
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: hands on deck, do your part. And now she's like

866
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: her bedroom is more organized than I could ever dream

867
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: of being. How is this teenager so organized? And I

868
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: think it's like it's just sort of an effect that

869
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: like was implanted in or at a very young age. Yes,

870
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 1: and there's so many ways you can get kids excited

871
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: about it. We are like inappropriately competitive in this house.

872
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: So I I mean, I just make anything a contest

873
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: between my kids, whether it's brushing their teeth, getting on Jamie,

874
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you name it. And so making it a

875
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: contest just for cleaning up is something that works really well,

876
00:45:54,680 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: um in our house. Two giving them an in tips, yes,

877
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: an ownership. I think kids don't really do thrive on that. Chip.

878
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: Did you want to talk about I know we were

879
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: talking before and Chip mentioned something about you know, during

880
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: times of uncertainty, a lot of people really kind of

881
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: gripped to something they can control. And obviously in the

882
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: last couple of years, we've really been living in this

883
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: crazy time where none of our lives are predictable. Like

884
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: even when I start to think life is going to

885
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: be more predictable, I have it a little more mapped out.

886
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, look at my calendar. Things are starting

887
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: to play the way they Here comes another Chips. Have

888
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: you seen like an uptick or like just in general,

889
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: not in just your business, but do you feel like, um,

890
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: the trend of being organized from this, I know that,

891
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: Like I claimed my closet. At the beginning of this

892
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: one hundred one, I thought we were done, Like our

893
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: job is going inside people's homes, and I was like

894
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 1: this is over, Like, yeah, totally done. We doubled and

895
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: one we doubled that. Oh my god. You think it's

896
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: because people were just stuck in their houses because before that, yeah,

897
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: maybe you opened a drawer that piste you off in

898
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: the morning and then you left your house for ten hours,

899
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: thought about it, came home, had dinner, had a glass

900
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: of wine, woke up, hated that drawer the next morning,

901
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: and moved on with your life. And now people were

902
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: just getting punched in the base by their disorganization in

903
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: their home, and there was no avoiding it. It was

904
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: like everywhere people were turning there like oh my god. No,

905
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: because when you think about when you're doing like full

906
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: work days or kids activities, all these things, you're really

907
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: not in your house that many hours on a regular day,

908
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: like where you're assessing your spaces, really analyzing what's going on.

909
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: But I mean, I mean we were like entertained by

910
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: watching peet dry when we were all stuck in our houses.

911
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: That was sane in sane times. But yeah, that really

912
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: really shocked me. I remember, um because we took a

913
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: little break, maybe it was like a month or two months.

914
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: I mean we were back at it really quickly because

915
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: like phones were off. That's crazy. It was really insane. Yeah,

916
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: the being stuck in the houses. And I do think

917
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: that we're just like grasping for anything that we can

918
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: have control over. Right now, I still feel that way. Yeah,

919
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: so many people like remodels, like I mean our contractor

920
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: he is like so booked out, like all the projects.

921
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: It's just it's all been nuts, like home depot lows,

922
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: all those places. I mean everybody was like making their

923
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: own accent while people got into breadmaking. It was like

924
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: I didn't do any of these things. I just started

925
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: drinking a lot, Like what what's wrong with these people?

926
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: Can't you cope like the rest of us that pleasure?

927
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: Since COVID was talking, Oh yes, I have not caught

928
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: an entity. I want into it. I know I'll be

929
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: up till four A. That's what I have. Friends. Yeah,

930
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm literally that girl. It's like double chin like yeah,

931
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: in my bed, laughing, like waking my husband up and

932
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: like eventually they're not funny anymore, and he's like, your

933
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: delirious just start. Yeah. I feel like most of my

934
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: lines now in normal life are like TikTok's. TikTok You're

935
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: probably just like the one about you know, you did

936
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: one today you were like, um am, I just better

937
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: than everyone else. I've actually made a TikTok to that

938
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: I do know that one. Okay, see there we go.

939
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: See you're you're speaking TikTok me that you like make

940
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: TikTok's because it's over there, like you have friends who

941
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: do that. It was like really weird at the beginning

942
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: of COVID, like I was way too invested in like

943
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 1: in nineteen year old tik talkers and like way House,

944
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, fully, ship, Rea, this is bad, really,

945
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: ship You've got to just let your brain go, which

946
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: is probably it's necessary. Yes, Well, speaking of social media,

947
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: you have a beautiful Instagram account, and I do think

948
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: that if people are interested in taking a step like

949
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: one one step in the direction of organization, maybe that's

950
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: a really good place to start. So can you tell

951
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: people how to find you? Yes, I would say the

952
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: number one way is going to be Instagram. We are

953
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: at Reorganize r I organize. It's a little play on

954
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: my name, and we're actually about to reintroduce virtual organizing.

955
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: So people in home services, Um, like our lowest tier

956
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,479
Speaker 1: is actually I mean really affordable and you can send

957
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: in photos of a space and we send you a

958
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: full plan and a customized shopping list. Um. So she's

959
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: like easy, really quig easy not as large of an investment. Um,

960
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, girl, get us your office, but

961
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: deal totally, that would be awesome. Okay, So you're offering

962
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: virtuals is the place people go find that on your

963
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: Instagram or on your website. I'm I'm about to be

964
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: announcing it so it will be on So maybe by

965
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: the time when this comes out, I don't know. Um,

966
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, the website, that's where you inquire. Enquire on

967
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: the website. See tomorrow we turn things around here fast. Okay,

968
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: you're really organized, because that's insane, is it? Or a

969
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: really last minute let's think about that. But see, I

970
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: just saw something the other day. Well, because it's all

971
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: my TikTok watching, I'm super convinced have a d h D.

972
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: Like all jokes aside, totally I'm like everything I'm seeing

973
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: where one of the things was that procrastinating. It's like

974
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: basically waiting until super last minute because you need that

975
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: pressure of like going again, I mean o'clock you've only

976
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: set for yourself. But that's when I do my best

977
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: work is when I'm hundred the gun. Like it is

978
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: just like maybe I won't make it happen, but maybe

979
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: I will. Know you will. It's how you will make

980
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: it happen. And the stress of that is sometimes like

981
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: it just forces you to perform more on It's so

982
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: bad for my nervous system, is all. It's all, Well,

983
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: once you do it, you're just like, yes, it's a rush,

984
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: it's for sure, probably probably not the best, but yeah, okay,

985
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: so you're being that up super fast. That's so awesome.

986
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: Organizing and then also we offer in home organizing and

987
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: just be on the lookout for some fun new announcements

988
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: in the next couple of months. This year is bananas. Okay.

989
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: So Instagram is at reorganized, website is www dot reorganized.

990
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: That I'm right, yep, I'm going to try to get

991
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: on TikTok. I'm gonna do it, like actually do stuff,

992
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: actually do a TikTok. You should. I feel like you'd

993
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: be a really good TikToker. I think a ten years

994
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 1: too late, because I would be savaging and booty popping,

995
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: and that I would be a TikTok er. I know it.

996
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: I tried to learn the savage dance and felt the

997
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: most uncoordinated and old that I've felt in a really

998
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: long time. And then that was when I decided I

999
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: hated TikTok. I remember sex here that was awesome, and

1000
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: then you rewatch it and you're like, my booty pop

1001
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: not look like that girl's booty pop. I thought it did.

1002
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm just like wow, I'm like, TikTok, you're welcome, and

1003
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: I looked like, uh no, sorry, different ones and then

1004
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: I delete them. I'm just like I can't do it.

1005
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: But maybe it could be like a TikTok fail account.

1006
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 1: You know that's a good one to work. You know,

1007
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: like you should just organize on TikTok. I'll follow that. God,

1008
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: I've like recycled random old videos. There's like a couple

1009
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: on the reorganized TikTok, but they're just like not good.

1010
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: I needed I'll make it a priority. It's like it's

1011
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,479
Speaker 1: all so much work. It's all so much the social

1012
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: media stuff. But we'll start on Instagram and look for

1013
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: your announcement for your TikTok page. But this was so

1014
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: helpful and I actually am going to take so many

1015
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: of these tips and bring them into my new beginnings

1016
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: for January. And I love your story of just going

1017
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: for it and taking the risk and really believing in

1018
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: yourself because I think, especially as women and moms, a

1019
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: lot of times we can get in our own way

1020
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: with that and hold ourselves back. So loving your story.

1021
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing with us. Chip. I

1022
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: feel like you really nailed your first interview. I can't

1023
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: even believe it was the first. I mean, I'm obsessed texting,

1024
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: obsessed with her. I know, why are you coming here again?

1025
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm coming. I'm coming to Dallas and we talked about

1026
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: this a couple of weeks ago on the podcast. But

1027
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to see Jake Woodard, a friend of mine

1028
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: who is putting on this um seminar called Awake, and

1029
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: it's about masculine and feminine energies. I'm super into that stuff,

1030
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'll hit you up. She's going to see

1031
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: how they're make man tonight. It's like, I'm so excited

1032
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: and I just keep thinking about how I want to

1033
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: get ready and get all done up, and I'm like,

1034
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: why am I trying to be so hot for Heather?

1035
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. If you just are, you're gonna be

1036
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: in the front row. You have to be you have

1037
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: to be so excited. Again, Yes, thank you so much.

1038
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: We'll actually yeah, well, maybe schedule a check in and

1039
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: maybe chipping out organized between now and then and you

1040
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: can help us. Okay, okay, I hope you guys learned

1041
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: some tips that. Sorry, wow, this ending on our this

1042
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: Edge podcast is always every week, brain just stops, like

1043
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens. It's like I have a

1044
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: stroke and then I try to talk and then I

1045
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: recover in that try again and I have another struke,

1046
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: but it's like a little more mini Maybe I don't know.

1047
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: It's like, um, I learned a lot today, So Ria,

1048
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: thank you so much. And I hope that you guys

1049
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: when you're going out you're living on the edge and

1050
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: maybe staying organized. Always remember to casual. I