Speaker 1: What's that a bed? It's spooky, Hey jooky. I'm really
Speaker 1: sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, Hey,
Speaker 1: I ghosted I nadas please hey boo, It's me Raz
Speaker 1: and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where
Speaker 1: I talk to people that I like about the para normal.
Speaker 1: Today I am talking to the hilarious comedian Mo Welch.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get into that. But first I've
Speaker 1: got a listeners story, and it's a cryptid story. Oh
Speaker 1: what's that over there? I've never seen something like that?
Speaker 1: Is it real? I don't know cryptids?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: This story comes from Zaya. Zia writes, My story began
Speaker 1: as a basic camping trip in New Mexico. It was
Speaker 1: a place I had been about three times a year
Speaker 1: for many years. This trip was in late spring. I
Speaker 1: was with one other person, and neither of us believed
Speaker 1: in the paranormal until this night. I would like to
Speaker 1: preface with that, as well as the fact that I
Speaker 1: grew up in the mountains and am extremely familiar with
Speaker 1: all the wildlife in the area. There aren't that many
Speaker 1: large animals. You have your moose, elk, mountain lions, etc.
Speaker 1: But all the animals are so fucking obvious, like you
Speaker 1: see them and you know what they are. So the
Speaker 1: two of us were camping in a spot I had
Speaker 1: frequented every summer for years. We arrived at our secluded
Speaker 1: campsite along the river around five pm and we set
Speaker 1: up camp with my dog. We had eaten dinner and
Speaker 1: had just opened a beer each, only one beer. We
Speaker 1: were not on drugs or drunk or anything, but I
Speaker 1: wanted to mention the beer for complete clarity and honesty.
Speaker 1: Thank you, sayah, we believe you. The person I was
Speaker 1: with was facing the river behind me, while I was
Speaker 1: facing the road behind him, with a fire in between us.
Speaker 1: My dog was laying on the ground next to us.
Speaker 1: She is a big, old, strong and top girl. She
Speaker 1: is very alert and aware of what is around her,
Speaker 1: but she was just chilling. Suddenly I looked across the
Speaker 1: fire and I saw my friend's eyes go wide, and
Speaker 1: I saw something moving behind him. At first I thought
Speaker 1: it was the dog, but she was still laying on
Speaker 1: the ground. I could see her in my peripheral. The
Speaker 1: movement behind my friend became more apparent, and I watched
Speaker 1: as something ran out of the trees and into the
Speaker 1: light of the fire. It stopped right in the middle
Speaker 1: of the road, directly in the fire light, and it
Speaker 1: looked me right in the eyes, standing on all fours.
Speaker 1: It was almost as tall as our jeep. It had long,
Speaker 1: thin legs that ended in more hooves than feet. Its
Speaker 1: skin was light gray or white. It had no hair,
Speaker 1: and it had a deany head for its body size
Speaker 1: that was completely rounded on the top, with huge black
Speaker 1: holes for eyes. I could see each of its ribs
Speaker 1: in such detail. I couldn't move, you know, fight or flight.
Speaker 1: No one mentions freezing in place. I was paralyzed and
Speaker 1: couldn't move if my life depended on it. It stared
Speaker 1: for a moment and ran off in a circular path
Speaker 1: around us. I could not speak or move. I was frozen.
Speaker 1: What felt like a few minutes later, I looked at
Speaker 1: my friend and he looked at me. At the same time.
Speaker 1: We both said it's time to go to bed, and
Speaker 1: we yelled for the dog and silently ran to the tent.
Speaker 1: I don't think either of us slept that night. We
Speaker 1: watched the same movie he had downloaded on his phone
Speaker 1: like eight times just to have sound. The next day,
Speaker 1: I went out to look for tracks and just saw
Speaker 1: weird little circles in the ground, but nothing out of
Speaker 1: the ordinary. Besides that, neither my friend nor I said
Speaker 1: a word outside of the ordinary for the next few
Speaker 1: days while we stayed there. Our friends joined us the
Speaker 1: next day and we did not say a word. As
Speaker 1: soon as we left the site, and we're about twenty
Speaker 1: minutes away, we both looked at each other and said,
Speaker 1: I have something to tell you. Turns out behind me,
Speaker 1: floating above the water. He saw a huge glowing ball
Speaker 1: of light floating above the water and lighting up its surroundings,
Speaker 1: as he described it, while behind him I saw the creature.
Speaker 1: They moved in unison and came at the exact same moment.
Speaker 1: I took it as a lesson, that being, if you
Speaker 1: see something scary in front of you, turn around, because
Speaker 1: there might be something scary behind you too. Be aware
Speaker 1: of your surroundings. We are both believers now and have
Speaker 1: been back to that site tons of times to try
Speaker 1: and investigate. I've dedicated so much of my free time
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what I saw. I would love
Speaker 1: some input about what it was. Okay, and Ziah attached
Speaker 1: a drawing of Yeah, it looks exactly like what you described.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, to be an attach First of all,
Speaker 1: I would have been in the jeep so quick, and
Speaker 1: then you stay there for a few days. Good for you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say people are going to go with skin walker.
Speaker 1: That sounds a lot like what people describe as a
Speaker 1: skin walker. However, I don't know, maybe it's something else,
Speaker 1: but I believe there's been sightings of that in New Mexico,
Speaker 1: sort of a shape shifter creature often seen on all fours. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it sound that's what it sounds like, but wow,
Speaker 1: with the light accompanying it, very strange but very cool.
Speaker 1: And I'm so happy it didn't attack you or anything.
Speaker 1: It just seems nice, isn't It seems like what's going
Speaker 1: over there? Anybody got any smores? No, no s'mores for me? Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna scurry on out of here. You made
Speaker 1: a friend. I think that's a lovely story, and thank
Speaker 1: you for sharing that. Okay, let's talk to Moe Welch
Speaker 1: and with the show. Oh my god, Mo Welch is here. Hello,
Speaker 1: Hi boo. Sorry, okay, now are you already booing?
Speaker 2: Me?
Speaker 1: Am? I bombing on my own podcast?
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that what ghosts are doing? Are they just
Speaker 2: bombing us in real life?
Speaker 1: Yeah? They're heckler Ooh bad bad life choice for sure. Okay,
Speaker 1: something happened that I think was synchronostic. You got on
Speaker 1: this zoom and as soon as I looked at my phone,
Speaker 1: I got liked un hinge by someone named mo Incredible
Speaker 1: who wrote, hello beautiful, and that's me.
Speaker 2: As you can see, I.
Speaker 1: Don't think it's you. It is also a different spelling
Speaker 1: of mom. But I'm gonna say that's something.
Speaker 2: Listen, I lean into that sort of thing. I might
Speaker 2: not believe in ghosts, as I said, I was open
Speaker 2: to it, but I definitely that energy thing or stuff
Speaker 2: that happens like that. I'm like, that's gotta be something.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. I like that about you because
Speaker 1: I first heard that you don't believe in ghosts, which
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, here we go. Are we gonna? Are
Speaker 1: we gonna get into it? Is this gonna be a confrontation? No,
Speaker 1: I'm never trying to convince any I don't even know
Speaker 1: how much I believe in ghosts, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I just like the possibility of it because if there
Speaker 1: wasn't a possibility of it, I wouldn't have a career.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that that's why people go to religion.
Speaker 2: It's like you want to believe there's something else out
Speaker 2: there and that we're going to go somewhere after. We're
Speaker 2: gonna haunt some people, We're gonna you know, like anything
Speaker 2: to grab onto. But from a young age, played in
Speaker 2: the cemetery. Became a realist, real young and it ruined me.
Speaker 1: Really. Yeah, so never for a second you were like
Speaker 1: there could be dead people walking around.
Speaker 2: I think I've always been open to it, Like I
Speaker 2: you know, maybe I want it too bad and that's
Speaker 2: my problem. Yeah, there's no chase for the ghost.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, that's not fun. It's too thirsty. They don't
Speaker 1: want it. It's how I feel about mao on Hinge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta let him want it.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I can't just reply right away.
Speaker 2: He's clearly thirsty.
Speaker 1: I can't be like, Hi, this is crazy. The craziest thing.
Speaker 1: I was just on a zoom with someone else's name,
Speaker 1: mo this is meant to be Like No, I gotta
Speaker 1: make him want it.
Speaker 2: You're like, also, I have a podcast, and if you
Speaker 2: could just like leave a five star review, then I'll
Speaker 2: think about going on.
Speaker 1: A daily Yeah, yeah, I might as well work it.
Speaker 1: Why not? So you grew up in Illinois? Is that correct?
Speaker 2: Yes? I was born in Normal, Illinois, which is a
Speaker 2: real place.
Speaker 1: Is there a reason that it has that name?
Speaker 2: I always thought it was suspicious, But I don't know why.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of there's like a lot of farmland
Speaker 2: outside of Normal. I mean, like, I had all the
Speaker 2: opportunities to have like a great ghost populated childhood, all
Speaker 2: these cornfields. We always lived by the cemetery, We played
Speaker 2: in the cemetery every season in the cemetery, and still nothing.
Speaker 2: And I do think it might be because I was
Speaker 2: too thirsty for it.
Speaker 1: I don't know why a ghost would want to haunt
Speaker 1: a cemetery. To be honest, though, M like because if
Speaker 1: you think about it, if we go by like the
Speaker 1: modern or just like the regular old theories of ghosts,
Speaker 1: it's usually like where they died or a place that
Speaker 1: they loved that they want to go back to. I
Speaker 1: guess I could see a scenario where they're carrying the
Speaker 1: body to the cemetery and then the ghost is like wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: don't put me down there? Yet and then they just
Speaker 1: like stay like a part of them just doesn't go
Speaker 1: into the ground. Maybe, but like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really that's a really good point. Like
Speaker 2: I guess if I were to become a ghost, I well,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe i'd finally use my gym membership. Maybe
Speaker 2: I'd haunt the gym I go to equinox.
Speaker 1: Ooh, you wouldn't have to pay for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd haunt everybody. Yeah, you're right. I wouldn't even
Speaker 2: want to haunt my house. It's like I would haunt
Speaker 2: a comedy club. I do think the Improv Lab is
Speaker 2: possibly haunted.
Speaker 1: Okay, the Hollywood Improv Lab, Yes, in Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 1: I have talked to Rita from the Improv she has
Speaker 1: come on this podcast. I've talked to a few sources, yes,
Speaker 1: that believe that that building is haunted.
Speaker 2: So even though I don't believe it, I do have
Speaker 2: that where I go. I've bombed too many times in
Speaker 2: this room for it not to be haunted.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Or it could just be an energy thing where
Speaker 1: your energy and that room don't mix for some reason. Yes,
Speaker 1: I have a place like that in town.
Speaker 2: Where is it?
Speaker 1: The lyric Hyperion?
Speaker 2: Oh, I was just there.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've never done well there.
Speaker 2: Okay. I was just saying, how it's a good room
Speaker 2: even if there's twelve people, So maybe my energy is good.
Speaker 1: There Improv Lab. Weirdly, I usually do.
Speaker 2: Alright, we just need to switch up those energies. Maybe
Speaker 2: because the improv Lab when I moved here was it
Speaker 2: looked like a black box theater. The stage is like
Speaker 2: you walk into those doors, it's like straight ahead, so
Speaker 2: it's not to the left. Word is now there's no
Speaker 2: bar in there. And I used to do shows there
Speaker 2: all the time. I did a show where you had
Speaker 2: to say, like, hello, my name is you had to
Speaker 2: put one of those tags on and I thought, you know,
Speaker 2: would be really funny if I tried to bring back
Speaker 2: the word see you ety And I said, I think
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring back that word. So I go,
Speaker 2: it's pretty funny if I just put that on there
Speaker 2: and said Hello, my name is see you next Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I can see any podcasts. So
Speaker 2: I had that on Huge earthquake during the show. Huge huge,
Speaker 2: like one of the biggest that I've felt in LA
Speaker 2: in my twelve years, huge one. And I was like,
Speaker 2: what if this building fell down and everyone was like
Speaker 2: the police and stuff were like, well, this is great.
Speaker 2: They have name tags on so we know who they are. Like,
Speaker 2: this is gonna make it really easy. And then they
Speaker 2: find me and they're like, is a cunts mom around?
Speaker 1: And as it goes, every time people would see you,
Speaker 1: they would see that.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I would have had to be that forever
Speaker 2: until someone solved my mystery my death.
Speaker 1: Wow. Wait, let's go back to this like idea of
Speaker 1: like synchronousity. So you believe in that you read into
Speaker 1: that kind of a thing.
Speaker 2: I do feel like there is like I don't know
Speaker 2: what it is, like energy or whatever. When you're thinking
Speaker 2: about somebody and then all of a sudden they like
Speaker 2: call you for the first time in a long time.
Speaker 2: There's some sort of energy there that I do enjoy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of putting you on the spot.
Speaker 1: But is there any scenarios you can think of where
Speaker 1: stuff like that has lined up?
Speaker 2: Or Yeah? One time, so I had a friend that
Speaker 2: died when we were nineteen, and so when I was
Speaker 2: that age and I was living with my mom, I
Speaker 2: was like so heartbroken about it, and so I thought
Speaker 2: about her all night and I was just like, just
Speaker 2: show me a sign. If you're out there, just give
Speaker 2: me a sign. Give it god, if you're just being
Speaker 2: the most dramatic, like everyone's watching me on the Truman Show.
Speaker 2: And and then like a minute later, I looked at
Speaker 2: my phone. The alarm went off and it said her name.
Speaker 2: It wasn't her calling. It was like an alarm I
Speaker 2: had set at some point for something and it said
Speaker 2: her name. And I was like, holy shit, And like
Speaker 2: obviously I remember that from when I was nineteen, so
Speaker 2: it stuck with me.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like, listen, it gets weird when you're
Speaker 1: talking about like people that you love to be like
Speaker 1: they're a ghost or whatever. But like that's like a
Speaker 1: ghost experience, right, It.
Speaker 2: Felt like something enough that it's in. I mean, to
Speaker 2: have something that I remember when I was nineteen. You know,
Speaker 2: you're like, well that's one of the memories. Got like
Speaker 2: five of them.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not bad.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of resurrection? Mary? Have you ever
Speaker 1: heard of Hamburger? Mary?
Speaker 2: Yes, now we're talking.
Speaker 1: That's a drag queen dining experience.
Speaker 2: Chain any shows at a Hamburger Barry?
Speaker 1: Have you me too? Oh my god? Yes, This is
Speaker 1: very different. This is Resurrection Mary. And I did a
Speaker 1: little bit of research and I wanted to tell you
Speaker 1: about Resurrection Mary because honestly I was not that familiar
Speaker 1: with her and talk about legendary. She has been around
Speaker 1: for years in the Justice, Illinois area.
Speaker 2: Oh, I wonder where that is?
Speaker 1: Southwest of Chicago. Okay, looks like it's just outside of Chicago.
Speaker 1: So this is primarily centered around resurrection cemetery.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: Most of the research that I found came from this
Speaker 1: article from twenty twenty two on Chicago's the Chicago History
Speaker 1: Museum website. So basically, it's kind of like an urban
Speaker 1: legend situation. Did you have any urban legends in normal Illinois?
Speaker 2: Not that I recall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a lot of towns have them, not always,
Speaker 1: but it's it's usually very similar to this story like
Speaker 1: this one you hear all around the world, which is
Speaker 1: basically a hitchhiking ghost is what they call it. So
Speaker 1: basically the story, it's believed that she was this real
Speaker 1: woman that died when she was in her twenties or thirties.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of stories that people think she was
Speaker 1: out at the club one night dancing in like the
Speaker 1: twenties or thirties. She's out there, you know, shaking it
Speaker 1: and then she's walking home along the road and then
Speaker 1: gets hit by a car or some other people say
Speaker 1: that it was just some other lady that was like
Speaker 1: a hit and round whatever. Either way, a car apparently
Speaker 1: killed this woman. So they say that she was a
Speaker 1: white woman, approximately twenty years old, looking snatched in a
Speaker 1: white flowy gown with accessories like fully done up. What's
Speaker 1: interesting is that she can leave the property. It's this
Speaker 1: one road, Archer Road in Justice, Illinois. She's mainly around
Speaker 1: this resurrection cemetery, but she gets a visitor passed and
Speaker 1: she'll go off property and she goes out to local clubs,
Speaker 1: meets fella's, she goes home with them, and then disappears
Speaker 1: in their car.
Speaker 2: Hmmm. So she goes home with them but stays in
Speaker 2: the car.
Speaker 1: She'll be like, can I have a red home? And
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, I know what that means. And then
Speaker 1: they start driving her and then they go past the
Speaker 1: cemetery and they're like, so, anyway, what are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on politics? And then they like look and she's.
Speaker 2: Gone, wow, yeah, okay, And these men are these men
Speaker 2: are coming from the bar, so they're definitely clear headed
Speaker 2: when they tell the story.
Speaker 1: Don't take the fun out of it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: So there once was a place called Oh Henry's. It
Speaker 1: was an old club, and it's believed that that's where
Speaker 1: she spent her last night, and people see her in
Speaker 1: that area all the time. They say that she was
Speaker 1: buried in Resurrection Cemetery and in the town. She's like
Speaker 1: a little celebrity. There's drinks named after her. She's got
Speaker 1: songs named after her. There's been a couple of low
Speaker 1: budget movies, but most famously, she was on a couple
Speaker 1: of segments of the original version of the TV show
Speaker 1: Unsolved Mysteries, Oh, which I looked up and I watched
Speaker 1: this one episode from season six, and in it, they've
Speaker 1: got a couple of people on record telling stories, and
Speaker 1: there's a man that says that in nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 1: he was a cab driver. He was about a mile
Speaker 1: from the cemetery and he's lost and he sees this
Speaker 1: woman and she's in all white and she's like walking
Speaker 1: up the road all alone, and he's like, hey, can
Speaker 1: you tell me where to go or whatever. He's like,
Speaker 1: I'll give you a ride wherever you need, and then
Speaker 1: she gets in the car. He looks back and she vanishes.
Speaker 1: David Blaine's style. This other inner from Unsolved Mysteries, there's
Speaker 1: this man that apparently they say they them say that
Speaker 1: this was the first appearance of Mary. So this guy
Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty nine, this guy's at this club and
Speaker 1: he calls himself a ladies man and he sees this
Speaker 1: fine honey in the club and she's all alone, and
Speaker 1: he's like, you want to dance, and so they do.
Speaker 1: They make small talk and she's like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: live like in the south side of town. And he
Speaker 1: notices that her hands are freezing, and he's like, okay,
Speaker 1: we got to get that circulation flowing, honey. But he
Speaker 1: doesn't think much of it. So then he's like, can
Speaker 1: I give you a ride home? And then she's like okay,
Speaker 1: and then she's like, let's go down Archer Road and
Speaker 1: he's like, you don't live over here, and then as
Speaker 1: soon as they get to the cemetery, she's like stop.
Speaker 1: She gets out of the car and vanishes. Chris's Angels style.
Speaker 1: So he says that the next day, he went to
Speaker 1: where she said she lived and he's knocking on. One
Speaker 1: woman answers a door and she's like, Mary died five
Speaker 1: years ago. There's also a couple that's in the episode
Speaker 1: that go on record and they say they saw her.
Speaker 1: She was very bright, she looked like she was illuminated
Speaker 1: from within, and she had no face. And there's also
Speaker 1: a lady and her friend that say they were driving
Speaker 1: down the road and they saw her run right in
Speaker 1: front of the car, but there was no impact. Many
Speaker 1: people believe it was this lady named Mary Bragovi who
Speaker 1: died in nineteen thirty four in a car accident, but
Speaker 1: there's no exact identity of who Resurrection Mary is. And
Speaker 1: one day justice will be served justice Illinois.
Speaker 2: I mean, I really give her props for going meeting
Speaker 2: a guy, getting a free ride, like hell yeah, not
Speaker 2: even hooking up with these guys and being like I'm
Speaker 2: getting my ride home, drop me off at the cemetery.
Speaker 2: See you never thanks for the dance.
Speaker 1: I know. She's like I could float back, or I
Speaker 1: could have somebody, you know, maybe they might have like
Speaker 1: some heat in their car.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like, my uber app's actually broken right now,
Speaker 2: So this mean a lot. Just strap me off at
Speaker 2: the cemetery.
Speaker 1: So realistically speaking, not even hypothetically, you never know this
Speaker 1: could happen. You're back in Illinois, you take a wrong turn,
Speaker 1: you're by yourself down a street and you see this
Speaker 1: woman and all what And I'm sorry, But if you
Speaker 1: see someone fully done up in a dress and accessories
Speaker 1: and it's nighttime and they're just all alone on a
Speaker 1: long stretch of a street, I'm already like, what's going
Speaker 1: on there?
Speaker 2: Yeah? This is like runaway bride. I'm not like it's eerie. Seriously,
Speaker 2: if I saw that, I'd be like, I'll call the cops,
Speaker 2: but you're not getting in my car. Yeah, although I
Speaker 2: have picked up a hitchhiker, but it was daytime. Like
Speaker 2: if it were daytime, I think I would pick someone up.
Speaker 2: Hey can I get a ride to Normal? And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm going there anyway. Happen, honey, good for you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would at this point in time.
Speaker 1: I'm so scared of these damn people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm always scared. Like it's hard to go in
Speaker 2: public because I always think I'm gonna be like on
Speaker 2: somebody's TikTok so I'd be afraid that she's like got
Speaker 2: some sort of prank show happening.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, seriously, welcome back to Resurrection, Mary talk.
Speaker 2: What would you do if if if a woman were
Speaker 2: on a street and she had a white dress on, Well,
Speaker 2: let's see and if they pick me up, I'm going
Speaker 2: to give them five hundred dollars. That's what they don't.
Speaker 1: Know, honestly. She now that I'm thinking about it, she
Speaker 1: was blonde. Maybe we get you a white dress and
Speaker 1: we get you out there.
Speaker 2: I would love it.
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 2: I would love to be I could be marry yeah,
Speaker 2: except you know, I'd be like, no, I'm twenty. No, no,
Speaker 2: I'm twenty. I just like I've gotten a lot of
Speaker 2: sun I'm twenty that obviously I'm twenty.
Speaker 1: Stop. You could pull it off, for sure. I kind
Speaker 1: of believe in this one though, especial seeing these people
Speaker 1: talking about it.
Speaker 2: They seemed credible when you were watching.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could argue anybody's credible or not credible,
Speaker 1: but these people were convinced, and like the one, two
Speaker 1: of the scenarios were women who I'm sorry, I believe
Speaker 1: a little bit more than you're right, Like a guy
Speaker 1: that was out drinking and it's like, Okay, this girl disappeared.
Speaker 1: That's why I never hooked up with her. She disappeared.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, if they're talking shit on Resurrection Mary, you
Speaker 2: have to understand that Justice sounds like a small town.
Speaker 2: Their economy is going down in the dumps, and listen.
Speaker 2: I just want to say I'm not trying to take
Speaker 2: the fun out of it, because I do want I
Speaker 2: want to be Resurrection Mary in the next TV show
Speaker 2: about her. But I do think they have to think
Speaker 2: about the key chains and the drinks and the T
Speaker 2: shirts that they sell. Chicago does the same thing with
Speaker 2: al Capone and just like yeah, you know, they have
Speaker 2: to be like no, no, no, it's cool. It was
Speaker 2: cool that he's a mobster and he murdered all these
Speaker 2: people because we have to stay in business with these
Speaker 2: mob tours and merch right, So I appreciate the business
Speaker 2: sense as an entrepreneur myself being a comedian, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, yeah, I mean it's harmless for the most part.
Speaker 1: I think it's just some lady down the street. When
Speaker 1: I was watching the Unsolved Mysteries, apparently, I think she's
Speaker 1: been on like two episodes and the one I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that is Marcia Cross from Desperate Housewives, like the lady
Speaker 1: that was playing her, but I could not confirm that.
Speaker 1: But then I found an IMDb for another episode where
Speaker 1: Resurrection Mary was on, and it's this actress, and so
Speaker 1: I clicked on her profile. She also played Resurrection Mary
Speaker 1: and the Resurrection Mary movie.
Speaker 2: Wow, So is she still acting?
Speaker 1: She's acting?
Speaker 2: She does Roves or did Mary haunt her career?
Speaker 1: Now she resurrected her Honey, she's out there getting booked
Speaker 1: and blast, so good for her.
Speaker 2: Yes. When I was in college, I worked for the
Speaker 2: radio station and I worked the graveyard shift, and they
Speaker 2: would always have those people calling in on coast to
Speaker 2: coasts that had seen all the UFOs and all the
Speaker 2: ghosts and stuff, and it was hard for me to
Speaker 2: find them credible, although I wanted to, but it was
Speaker 2: hard because, you know, it sounded like it was an afterthought.
Speaker 2: They'd tell you a whole story and then they'd be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: and by the way, I saw UFO my front yard,
Speaker 2: all right, thanks for having me by.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know what people gain from that, Like,
Speaker 1: I guess it's just fun.
Speaker 2: It is fun to listen to. I mean, it is
Speaker 2: for sure entertaining.
Speaker 1: I'm always like a little bit more suspicious when it's
Speaker 1: like people are trying to sell their story to a
Speaker 1: big movie company to turn into something like when money
Speaker 1: starts getting involved, That's when I'm like, is this real
Speaker 1: or you just making this whole thing up? Yeah, But
Speaker 1: I'm like, if it's a good story, it's a good story. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like I try to call my mom so busy for me.
Speaker 2: Tried to call her before the podcast because I was like,
Speaker 2: I wonder if my mom believes in ghosts. I've never
Speaker 2: asked her that, And you know, she grew up Catholic,
Speaker 2: and then I was baptized Catholic, but we were like,
Speaker 2: we kind of went to Lutheran and all that, so
Speaker 2: we're Catholic light not really religious. Then my grandma's super religious.
Speaker 2: So she's out to lunch with my grandma and I
Speaker 2: was like, do you believe in ghosts? And my mom
Speaker 2: was like, I want to believe in ghosts, And I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, great, so we're the same. And then
Speaker 2: my grandma chimes in and says, oh, I believe in ghosts,
Speaker 2: and there's a ghost with a bowler hat who lives
Speaker 2: in our house.
Speaker 1: So and I do.
Speaker 2: Find that interesting that. I mean, like this doesn't have
Speaker 2: to be the the intersection for everybody. But I was
Speaker 2: like a lot of the people that I know that
Speaker 2: do believe in ghosts are also really religious, and I
Speaker 2: know that that's not the I know that, like the
Speaker 2: people in La that I know it's that's not the case.
Speaker 2: But the people back home that I know religion and
Speaker 2: then believe in normal stuff and my grandma loves zodiac
Speaker 2: science and all of that.
Speaker 1: I think that it's a foundation. A lot of times,
Speaker 1: it gets you early on into this idea that there's
Speaker 1: more than meets the eye, or there's like believing in
Speaker 1: higher powers and miracles and like all of these things,
Speaker 1: because it's told to you by adults that are like,
Speaker 1: this is a fact. Actually, this is not a fairy tale.
Speaker 1: This is real, that these certain things can happen. I mean,
Speaker 1: so many of the people that we talked on this
Speaker 1: podcast grew up Catholic, and mainly Catholic, the paranormal believers,
Speaker 1: it seems. But yeah, it's like I don't I'm not
Speaker 1: Catholic at all anymore, but I still have stuff that's
Speaker 1: like deep in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love the idea of but yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: that's why we love the idea of believing. It's like
Speaker 2: Santa Claus. Love it.
Speaker 1: What about Santa Claus isn't not real?
Speaker 2: Well? Shit, sorry forretend I didn't say that.
Speaker 1: Are you implying?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, he is real and actually he's really hot.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. That's the only thing they get wrong
Speaker 2: about him is that he is fucking dripping and sweat
Speaker 2: because he's working out so much and he's hot.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, okay, seance off. Yeah, yeah, what's in
Speaker 1: those cookies? So what do you think about a haunted doll?
Speaker 1: Do you think that a doll could be haunted?
Speaker 2: I fucking hope. So now this is what I like.
Speaker 2: And I love the movie. I love where this is
Speaker 2: going for film.
Speaker 1: You like Annabelle? Oh you know what.
Speaker 2: I did see Annabelle, and I thought Chucky was a
Speaker 2: little too. I don't know, I Chucky isn't believable to
Speaker 2: me because I think it does have to be an
Speaker 2: old porcelain female doll, or maybe like a cabbage patch
Speaker 2: doll will be fun.
Speaker 1: Well, Chucky is a situation where a murderer did some
Speaker 1: kind of. I believe it's implied as voodoo, which I
Speaker 1: think is offensive to people that practice for But he
Speaker 1: somehow set a spell and then got inside of this doll.
Speaker 1: So now an active serial killer just lives in a doll, right, which.
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time on eBay looking at
Speaker 1: haunted dolls. I know this community inside and out, and
Speaker 1: I spend hours trying to find ones to feature every
Speaker 1: week on the show. Usually the story goes that a
Speaker 1: person once lived and then they died. They were given
Speaker 1: certain options at death, I think where they said Heaven, Hell, eBay, doll,
Speaker 1: Which one do you want? They chose the third, and
Speaker 1: that's how we end up here. It's time for a
Speaker 1: segment I call the dolls are living? Okay, Jiha, could
Speaker 1: you please show MO and I Jackie wowo. Jackie's got
Speaker 1: some bisexual lighting on her. She knows her angles. She
Speaker 1: is looking up in the air at something. It's not
Speaker 1: good whatever she's looking at. She has got like a
Speaker 1: nineties kind of sun hat, kind of blossom. Yes, she's
Speaker 1: got what we need always, which is a kind of
Speaker 1: roughly white dress. Little resurrection Mary. Yes, does this scare you?
Speaker 2: Here's what's alarming to me, the right hand is disjointed.
Speaker 2: There's something happening. The hands are too long and realistic
Speaker 2: for me. And she doesn't have shoes on, so maybe
Speaker 2: this is Resurrection Mary. Should I have any shoes on?
Speaker 2: She's walking in the street with her white dress.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Resurrection Mary. Didn't have a hat, which I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe she could use a hat. But I say, Resurrection
Speaker 1: Mary and Jackie team up. There's your sitcom. Yeah, let
Speaker 1: me tell you about Resurrection Jackie. Because she comes with
Speaker 1: a biography that somebody on eBay wrote. She knows her worth.
Speaker 1: She is going for two hundred and fifty dollars or
Speaker 1: best offer. They are not taking bids on this. They
Speaker 1: say two hundred and fifty is what we are looking for.
Speaker 1: The person that writes this says that she is the
Speaker 1: spirit of a very friendly Irish lady who also lived
Speaker 1: Now this is kind of ironic. I didn't choose this.
Speaker 1: But she's from the Chicago area and she lived there
Speaker 1: from nineteen twenty five till nineteen seventy. And this vessel,
Speaker 1: as they referred to her, was found in a garage
Speaker 1: that was collapsing and it was scheduled to be raised.
Speaker 1: She was packed inside one of the many boxes that
Speaker 1: were scattered through the structure. The house that shared the
Speaker 1: same property of the garage was the scene of a
Speaker 1: very active haunting for years, and the owner pinned down
Speaker 1: the disturbances to this doll and promptly removed it from
Speaker 1: the home and put it in the garage. But this
Speaker 1: didn't slow Jackie down for a minute, as she continued
Speaker 1: to make herself known to anyone who ventured out into
Speaker 1: the garage. She produces disembodied giggles, extreme cold spots, sudden
Speaker 1: and uncomfortable pressure changes, shadows, and the feeling of being watched.
Speaker 1: Her beautiful eyes follow you everywhere, and occasionally she likes
Speaker 1: to poke people. She hides things quite often and leaves
Speaker 1: the refrigerator door open sometimes anyway. Basically, they believe it's
Speaker 1: this lady Jackie, who died of natural causes at the
Speaker 1: age of eighty two. Ultimately, she's a positive haunting. She's
Speaker 1: very kind, She's happy to have company and to help others.
Speaker 1: You can smell different perfumes coming off of her. You know,
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like one of the worst ones I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: I just love the gas lighting of like it feels
Speaker 2: like when you're in a bad relationship and you're like no, no,
Speaker 2: he's like really positive and he's like a pretty nice guy.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna use a guy for this one. He's
Speaker 2: like a pretty nice guy. He does poke me a lot,
Speaker 2: and he leaves the refrigerator door open, and we had
Speaker 2: to put him in the garage because he was haunting us.
Speaker 1: But he's very positive.
Speaker 2: I do think, Okay, if they know the doll, if
Speaker 2: they know Jackie is haunted, you know, the decision to
Speaker 2: just say, let's just put her in the garage instead
Speaker 2: of get her off the premises, that makes me believe
Speaker 2: that they really do enjoy Jackie. So maybe maybe she
Speaker 2: is a good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's not that bad. But also, who's paying for
Speaker 1: this refrigerator bill? Okay, you can't just leave that open?
Speaker 2: Girl?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's she doing in the refrigerat? I love how
Speaker 1: it's implied, like when she goes in there to get
Speaker 1: a lacroix, she sometimes forgets to shut it, like.
Speaker 2: That's why her hand is all messed up. She can
Speaker 2: open it, but like the wait is too much for
Speaker 2: this little horse Lindall to close it. She did it
Speaker 2: once and it did that to her hand.
Speaker 1: Oh god, well for two hundred and fifty dollars. If
Speaker 1: anyone wants Jackie, she's there for the taking. Can I
Speaker 1: play you some ghost voices?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 1: It's time for EVP or ev pase. Have you ever
Speaker 1: heard the term EVP. No, it stands for electronic voice phenomena.
Speaker 1: So basically, when a ghost hunter captures a ghost speaking,
Speaker 1: they call it EVP. And they could capture it with
Speaker 1: any kind of recording device. Really, it could be on
Speaker 1: a video or you know, with an audio recorder whatever.
Speaker 1: A lot of times people will put these on YouTube
Speaker 1: or TikTok and I find them and I'm going to
Speaker 1: play you two of them, and I want you to
Speaker 1: tell me what you think it might say, and then
Speaker 1: I'll give you four options, one of them being what
Speaker 1: the person that posted it believes it is saying. Now,
Speaker 1: this particular clip, I was trying to see if there
Speaker 1: were any from Resurrection Mary Area, and I did find
Speaker 1: a compilation video of alleged EVPs that have happened there.
Speaker 1: It was posted by Chicago Land Halloween. It doesn't really
Speaker 1: say who recorded these, but they're like vintage EVPs. This
Speaker 1: first one is from nineteen eighty five, right around the
Speaker 1: area of the cemetery. What is this ghost saying? Okay, whisper,
Speaker 1: let me play it again. Yeah, let me tell you,
Speaker 1: this is one of the better ones we've had on
Speaker 1: this show. We play it again.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have an idea.
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think.
Speaker 2: At the beginning, it sounds like they're saying, there we go,
Speaker 2: uh huh, there we go. But then I can't really
Speaker 2: I don't know what happens after that. It's almost like
Speaker 2: their phone dropped.
Speaker 1: I know you're right.
Speaker 2: Wait, there we go than a fax machine the sound
Speaker 2: of a fact. Okay, this is babies.
Speaker 1: Well, here's some options. Is it A you know my sister, right,
Speaker 1: B there you go see you at night?
Speaker 2: Oh? Is it C?
Speaker 1: There's no more go to the light? Or D I
Speaker 1: don't know, just bring me a sprite. Okay, they're trying
Speaker 1: to get that first quenched. Any of those stand out
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna have to say B. Although don't
Speaker 2: we all want it to be C.
Speaker 1: There's no more go to the light.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's better for the script.
Speaker 1: It really is, but they believe it was B. Okay,
Speaker 1: there you go see you at night. Okay, now that
Speaker 1: we know that, oh, I get hear a cee you
Speaker 1: at night?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can hear it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this next one is from nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1: What is it saying? Okay, this is a very different one. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit. It sounds like, ooh, what a
Speaker 1: mota bang bang. It's like that kind of.
Speaker 2: Do you think it was one of the first recordings
Speaker 2: of olymp Biscuit song or something.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was the demo for uh kid Rock?
Speaker 2: Oh it was kid Rock.
Speaker 1: It was like, how dare you?
Speaker 2: I am so embarrassed, I'll just leave.
Speaker 1: Can you decipher any words of bah?
Speaker 2: It felt like it was like a timpany druma one point.
Speaker 2: I don't hear any words there? Do you hear words? Well?
Speaker 1: It's also interesting because there sounds like there's like little
Speaker 1: cries in the back or something like fame. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't like that.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say just to say something, I'll say, hey,
Speaker 2: give me my sprite, okay, just in case.
Speaker 1: Just in case, you never know. It could be. Is
Speaker 1: it A I'll rob your man? Is it B A
Speaker 1: lot of pain? Is it C where have you been?
Speaker 1: Or D kid Rock's first demo?
Speaker 2: I want it to be D what do you think
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Say d Okay, you know this person believed it with
Speaker 1: c where have you been? You know, I like it.
Speaker 1: See it sounds like a very scary voice, but it
Speaker 1: could be friendly. It could be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: where have you been?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes people can't help the way their voice sounds.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, anyway, let's whind this sucker down. Let's
Speaker 1: just do one thing real quick. I'm just gonna sort
Speaker 1: of rapid fire throw a couple of unexplained phenomena type
Speaker 1: things to you, and let's see if you got any
Speaker 1: thoughts on them. Great psychics.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I had a girlfriend in La Her mom
Speaker 2: was a celebrity psychic, a psychic to the celebrities.
Speaker 1: Stop.
Speaker 2: The first time I met her, we went to Malibu.
Speaker 2: She'd like rented a house. My girlfriend and I had
Speaker 2: gotten into a big fight on the way there, and
Speaker 2: her mom could sense it, like when we were even
Speaker 2: though I was really fake. You know, it's like you're
Speaker 2: meeting somebody for the first time. So the fact that
Speaker 2: she says it was good because I'm a pretty good
Speaker 2: actor in those situations.
Speaker 1: Hi, how are you so good to see you?
Speaker 2: We have such a great drive up. And the thing
Speaker 2: is that she told my girlfriend very early on that
Speaker 2: we are not going to make it. We're not going
Speaker 2: to be together and I'm not her person, which I
Speaker 2: would imagine is very frustrating for the daughter to say,
Speaker 2: like can you just not tell me? Like, can I
Speaker 2: just see this one through? But she was right? So
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: Wow? So do you believe? Like, have you been to
Speaker 1: a psychic on your own?
Speaker 2: I've had like my palm read like at a party, sure,
Speaker 2: but no, I've never done a psychic. I've been with
Speaker 2: friends you know when they did. But I think I
Speaker 2: have a bad energy when I walk in because it's
Speaker 2: like it's I think they know. It's not very open.
Speaker 2: I think they know that I'm like trying to stump them,
Speaker 2: which is wrong. But my thoughts are I'm actually interested.
Speaker 2: I want one that's like in a house neon sign.
Speaker 1: I actually live in one of those because I just
Speaker 1: love funky, weird shit. And I own a neon sign
Speaker 1: from a tarot card reader that went out of business,
Speaker 1: and it's in my living room.
Speaker 2: That's amazing and it's huge.
Speaker 1: It's like put it in your.
Speaker 2: Window and I'll come over for a reading.
Speaker 1: I know, when I put it up, I was like,
Speaker 1: can any windows see this? Because I don't want people
Speaker 1: showing up thinking I'm going to do that. What do
Speaker 1: you think of horoscopes?
Speaker 2: Here's the thing with them. I do think. I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's so dumb. And then every time I read my horoscope,
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, it's so me, it's so me. And
Speaker 2: then I'll be like, you know what, I'm going to read.
Speaker 1: Another one, a different sign, Yeah, a.
Speaker 2: Different sign, just to see if they're all like kind
Speaker 2: of vague, and I'm like, no, that's genuinely not me.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And I'm a Leo, and you know a lot of
Speaker 2: maybe maybe Leo's are just kind of basic and you
Speaker 2: can just kind of say you want attension. And then
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very Leo to think that way. I know
Speaker 1: nothing about horoscopes, but.
Speaker 2: You know what, I will say that, like, there was
Speaker 2: a point of my life where I had a lot
Speaker 2: of Geminis in my life, a lot of them best friends.
Speaker 2: I dated a few geminis. When I first moved to La.
Speaker 2: Dated this Gemini who was like head lesbian of La
Speaker 2: or something. Probably cheated on me. A million times. I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm not dating any more Geminis, and so
Speaker 2: I believed in it enough to know that I was
Speaker 2: not made for geminis and they are like too much
Speaker 2: for me. So then I end up meeting my wife
Speaker 2: at a bowling alley and she's like, you know, double
Speaker 2: Gemini or like whatever Gemini everything, and I was just
Speaker 2: like this is going to be a disaster, and then yeah,
Speaker 2: we ended up getting married. She doesn't come off as
Speaker 2: Gemini to me. But of course I was like, I'm
Speaker 2: not dating any Geminis and ended up marrying one.
Speaker 1: Interesting mm hmm. I'm a Libra and I'm always around libras.
Speaker 1: Everyone I know is a damn Libra. It's like so
Speaker 1: many birthday parties in the fall.
Speaker 2: For me, that must mean that you guys can hang out,
Speaker 2: because it's like my wife, she doesn't really have a
Speaker 2: lot of Gemini friends. Yeah, any they can't hang out.
Speaker 2: There can only be one Gemini in a room.
Speaker 1: I've definitely had my moments where I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm going to learn about this stuff, and then five
Speaker 1: minutes in I'm like, Duo Lingo is pissed at me
Speaker 1: because I haven't been doing that, like, I've got things
Speaker 1: I need to do. Yeah, I need to stretch, you know,
Speaker 1: so I've just never gotten around to it.
Speaker 2: I need to stretch. I need to stretch. Okay, I
Speaker 2: need to stretch.
Speaker 1: I can't deal with this right now, but it's interesting
Speaker 1: to hear about.
Speaker 2: I don't want to do any hobby at this point
Speaker 2: that requires studying. Like you said, it's just like, I
Speaker 2: have other things I need to finish.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and luckily we all know a thousand people that
Speaker 1: have done the work, and I just called them. Right,
Speaker 1: what do you think of demons?
Speaker 2: Demons?
Speaker 1: Do you think that's real? Just the concept that there's
Speaker 1: like evil energies.
Speaker 2: I think there are some people that are truly evil. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think everyone's like, no, everybody's born good. I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I've met some people that are
Speaker 2: just like, there's just no way, I know. I think
Speaker 2: maybe I believe in like the demon version of a person,
Speaker 2: but I think it's just someone that doesn't know how
Speaker 2: to like fix anything about themselves. Right, it's rude.
Speaker 1: But what about something not connected to a human, just
Speaker 1: like an evil energy?
Speaker 2: No? I like that, not at all.
Speaker 1: What about past lives?
Speaker 2: No, not at all. I love when people are like,
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, maybe we knew each other
Speaker 2: in a past life, and I'm like, nope, I.
Speaker 1: Didn't know you. It was my first one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is my first I'm actually quite young.
Speaker 2: And uh, I'll see you in the next one.
Speaker 1: It could be you never know, it could be this
Speaker 1: is your first one.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like I was his stand up. You don'
Speaker 2: want to be so mad if my next life, if
Speaker 2: I had no sense of humor, I would be so upset.
Speaker 1: But would you would?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: It's like that's the weird thing about the past lives.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I I owned a business in my
Speaker 1: past life, and a crocodile ate me. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: scared of crocodiles. And it's like, but what else do
Speaker 1: you remember about the business? Do you remember how to
Speaker 1: run a business?
Speaker 2: No? Well, then, like, if I knew I had a
Speaker 2: past life, I feel like this life I would have
Speaker 2: so many lessons for my last life that I'd be
Speaker 2: really successful early prodigy. Maybe I would know, don't quit
Speaker 2: like playing the piano, learn the guitar.
Speaker 1: You know, but maybe you've uncovered those lessons that were
Speaker 1: deep inside from.
Speaker 2: The past life they're just coming out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just now being released. I do think that
Speaker 1: I have a lot of knowledge about things that I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how I know that, but.
Speaker 2: Like, if you could guess, what do you think your
Speaker 2: career was in your past life?
Speaker 1: I think I was a stay at home like housewife,
Speaker 1: not stay at home mom. Yeah, and not the kind
Speaker 1: that takes care of the house all day. I was
Speaker 1: the kind that sat at home on her ass. And
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I am not that anymore.
Speaker 2: It's fucked up because it's like you don't even know
Speaker 2: what era it happens. It doesn't happen in a linear fashion,
Speaker 2: you know. It's like did you have TV back then
Speaker 2: or did you genuinely just have to sit on your ass? Oh,
Speaker 2: I know, with no devices?
Speaker 1: Like That's what I always think about this. Okay, So
Speaker 1: let's say our past lives are like in a linear
Speaker 1: way or whatever. So someone dies, then their body you know,
Speaker 1: is dead, and then the spirit like comes out and
Speaker 1: they're like, all right, where do I go next? Maybe
Speaker 1: they go to like a temp agency or something. They're like,
Speaker 1: what do you got for me on this one? And
Speaker 1: then they're like Okay, we have this baby in normal
Speaker 1: Illinois and you're like, sure, let's do it. Let's start
Speaker 1: back from like and then you okay, jump in. Bye.
Speaker 2: I love the idea of a temp agency. What do
Speaker 2: you call it when it's like in between purgatory purgatory? Yeah,
Speaker 2: purgatory temp agency, and that obviously you're getting there so late.
Speaker 2: Everybody already got the babies that are being born in
Speaker 2: New York, and you have to like take the normal
Speaker 2: Illinois one, knowing that most people stay in central Illinois,
Speaker 2: so you have to accept that, like, hey, maybe I'm
Speaker 2: an Illinois girl for life.
Speaker 1: But maybe the last one was you need that, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're trying to like live a simple life after
Speaker 2: sitting on your ass. Your first one, you're gonna be
Speaker 2: a farmer the second one.
Speaker 1: Honestly, this is our sitcom.
Speaker 2: Yes, I love it. Somebody get Hollywood on the line
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: I know a few people in Hollywood. Don't you worry.
Speaker 1: This is gonna happen. It will happen. Just one last one, Bigfoot, Bigfoot? No,
Speaker 1: all right, that was easy.
Speaker 3: Uh Mo, thanks for joining me, thank you, thank you
Speaker 3: for having me, even though I'm obviously such a non believer,
Speaker 3: but I really support anyone who believes in anything, as
Speaker 3: long as it's something that's not harmful to others.
Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, and that's what we like here.
Speaker 1: We like openness and just pondering.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know. I gave birth to my daughter and
Speaker 2: completely delusional for the first three months because you really
Speaker 2: do get no sleep. And I was like, that is
Speaker 2: the time I would have seen ghosts and it didn't happen.
Speaker 2: So I was pretty upset about that. But well, one
Speaker 2: of these days I'm open. Let me know.
Speaker 1: Hit me a slide into my DMS resurrection Mary, hit
Speaker 1: me up. Where would you like people to find you,
Speaker 1: whether they're ghosts or not?
Speaker 2: On Instagram at Momo Welch. I've been putting up clips.
Speaker 2: My art's on there, and you just find me there.
Speaker 2: That's where I live.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for doing this, Thank you so much. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much to mo Welch. I love you all,
Speaker 1: both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you
Speaker 1: to haunt me, don't haunt me. Okay bye, This has
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Speaker 1: is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming
Speaker 1: Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sod designed by
Speaker 1: the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying
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