1 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: What's that a bed? It's spooky, Hey jooky. I'm really 2 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, Hey, 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: I ghosted I nadas please hey boo, It's me Raz 4 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where 5 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: I talk to people that I like about the para normal. 6 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: Today I am talking to the hilarious comedian Mo Welch. 7 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: I can't wait to get into that. But first I've 8 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: got a listeners story, and it's a cryptid story. Oh 9 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: what's that over there? I've never seen something like that? 10 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: Is it real? I don't know cryptids? 11 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: All right? 12 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: This story comes from Zaya. Zia writes, My story began 13 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: as a basic camping trip in New Mexico. It was 14 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: a place I had been about three times a year 15 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: for many years. This trip was in late spring. I 16 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: was with one other person, and neither of us believed 17 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: in the paranormal until this night. I would like to 18 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: preface with that, as well as the fact that I 19 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: grew up in the mountains and am extremely familiar with 20 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: all the wildlife in the area. There aren't that many 21 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: large animals. You have your moose, elk, mountain lions, etc. 22 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: But all the animals are so fucking obvious, like you 23 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: see them and you know what they are. So the 24 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: two of us were camping in a spot I had 25 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: frequented every summer for years. We arrived at our secluded 26 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: campsite along the river around five pm and we set 27 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: up camp with my dog. We had eaten dinner and 28 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: had just opened a beer each, only one beer. We 29 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: were not on drugs or drunk or anything, but I 30 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: wanted to mention the beer for complete clarity and honesty. 31 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, sayah, we believe you. The person I was 32 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: with was facing the river behind me, while I was 33 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: facing the road behind him, with a fire in between us. 34 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: My dog was laying on the ground next to us. 35 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: She is a big, old, strong and top girl. She 36 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: is very alert and aware of what is around her, 37 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: but she was just chilling. Suddenly I looked across the 38 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: fire and I saw my friend's eyes go wide, and 39 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: I saw something moving behind him. At first I thought 40 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: it was the dog, but she was still laying on 41 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: the ground. I could see her in my peripheral. The 42 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: movement behind my friend became more apparent, and I watched 43 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: as something ran out of the trees and into the 44 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: light of the fire. It stopped right in the middle 45 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: of the road, directly in the fire light, and it 46 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: looked me right in the eyes, standing on all fours. 47 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: It was almost as tall as our jeep. It had long, 48 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: thin legs that ended in more hooves than feet. Its 49 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: skin was light gray or white. It had no hair, 50 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: and it had a deany head for its body size 51 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: that was completely rounded on the top, with huge black 52 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: holes for eyes. I could see each of its ribs 53 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: in such detail. I couldn't move, you know, fight or flight. 54 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: No one mentions freezing in place. I was paralyzed and 55 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: couldn't move if my life depended on it. It stared 56 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: for a moment and ran off in a circular path 57 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: around us. I could not speak or move. I was frozen. 58 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: What felt like a few minutes later, I looked at 59 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: my friend and he looked at me. At the same time. 60 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: We both said it's time to go to bed, and 61 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: we yelled for the dog and silently ran to the tent. 62 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: I don't think either of us slept that night. We 63 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: watched the same movie he had downloaded on his phone 64 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: like eight times just to have sound. The next day, 65 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: I went out to look for tracks and just saw 66 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: weird little circles in the ground, but nothing out of 67 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: the ordinary. Besides that, neither my friend nor I said 68 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: a word outside of the ordinary for the next few 69 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: days while we stayed there. Our friends joined us the 70 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: next day and we did not say a word. As 71 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: soon as we left the site, and we're about twenty 72 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: minutes away, we both looked at each other and said, 73 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: I have something to tell you. Turns out behind me, 74 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 1: floating above the water. He saw a huge glowing ball 75 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: of light floating above the water and lighting up its surroundings, 76 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: as he described it, while behind him I saw the creature. 77 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: They moved in unison and came at the exact same moment. 78 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: I took it as a lesson, that being, if you 79 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: see something scary in front of you, turn around, because 80 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: there might be something scary behind you too. Be aware 81 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: of your surroundings. We are both believers now and have 82 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: been back to that site tons of times to try 83 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: and investigate. I've dedicated so much of my free time 84 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what I saw. I would love 85 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: some input about what it was. Okay, and Ziah attached 86 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: a drawing of Yeah, it looks exactly like what you described. 87 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, to be an attach First of all, 88 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: I would have been in the jeep so quick, and 89 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: then you stay there for a few days. Good for you. 90 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say people are going to go with skin walker. 91 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: That sounds a lot like what people describe as a 92 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: skin walker. However, I don't know, maybe it's something else, 93 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: but I believe there's been sightings of that in New Mexico, 94 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: sort of a shape shifter creature often seen on all fours. Yeah, 95 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean it sound that's what it sounds like, but wow, 96 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: with the light accompanying it, very strange but very cool. 97 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: And I'm so happy it didn't attack you or anything. 98 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: It just seems nice, isn't It seems like what's going 99 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: over there? Anybody got any smores? No, no s'mores for me? Okay, Well, 100 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna scurry on out of here. You made 101 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: a friend. I think that's a lovely story, and thank 102 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: you for sharing that. Okay, let's talk to Moe Welch 103 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: and with the show. Oh my god, Mo Welch is here. Hello, 104 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: Hi boo. Sorry, okay, now are you already booing? 105 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: Me? 106 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: Am? I bombing on my own podcast? 107 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, is that what ghosts are doing? Are they just 108 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: bombing us in real life? 109 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? They're heckler Ooh bad bad life choice for sure. Okay, 110 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: something happened that I think was synchronostic. You got on 111 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: this zoom and as soon as I looked at my phone, 112 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: I got liked un hinge by someone named mo Incredible 113 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: who wrote, hello beautiful, and that's me. 114 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: As you can see, I. 115 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: Don't think it's you. It is also a different spelling 116 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: of mom. But I'm gonna say that's something. 117 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: Listen, I lean into that sort of thing. I might 118 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: not believe in ghosts, as I said, I was open 119 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 2: to it, but I definitely that energy thing or stuff 120 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: that happens like that. I'm like, that's gotta be something. 121 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. I like that about you because 122 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: I first heard that you don't believe in ghosts, which 123 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, here we go. Are we gonna? Are 124 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: we gonna get into it? Is this gonna be a confrontation? No, 125 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm never trying to convince any I don't even know 126 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: how much I believe in ghosts, to be honest with you, 127 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: I just like the possibility of it because if there 128 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: wasn't a possibility of it, I wouldn't have a career. 129 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that that's why people go to religion. 130 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: It's like you want to believe there's something else out 131 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: there and that we're going to go somewhere after. We're 132 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: gonna haunt some people, We're gonna you know, like anything 133 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: to grab onto. But from a young age, played in 134 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: the cemetery. Became a realist, real young and it ruined me. 135 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: Really. Yeah, so never for a second you were like 136 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: there could be dead people walking around. 137 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: I think I've always been open to it, Like I 138 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: you know, maybe I want it too bad and that's 139 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 2: my problem. Yeah, there's no chase for the ghost. 140 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah no, that's not fun. It's too thirsty. They don't 141 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: want it. It's how I feel about mao on Hinge. Yeah, 142 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: I gotta let him want it. 143 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 144 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: I can't just reply right away. 145 00:08:58,720 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: He's clearly thirsty. 146 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: I can't be like, Hi, this is crazy. The craziest thing. 147 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: I was just on a zoom with someone else's name, 148 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: mo this is meant to be Like No, I gotta 149 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: make him want it. 150 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: You're like, also, I have a podcast, and if you 151 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: could just like leave a five star review, then I'll 152 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 2: think about going on. 153 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: A daily Yeah, yeah, I might as well work it. 154 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: Why not? So you grew up in Illinois? Is that correct? 155 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: Yes? I was born in Normal, Illinois, which is a 156 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: real place. 157 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: Is there a reason that it has that name? 158 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: I always thought it was suspicious, But I don't know why. 159 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: There's a lot of there's like a lot of farmland 160 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: outside of Normal. I mean, like, I had all the 161 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: opportunities to have like a great ghost populated childhood, all 162 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 2: these cornfields. We always lived by the cemetery, We played 163 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: in the cemetery every season in the cemetery, and still nothing. 164 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: And I do think it might be because I was 165 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: too thirsty for it. 166 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: I don't know why a ghost would want to haunt 167 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: a cemetery. To be honest, though, M like because if 168 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: you think about it, if we go by like the 169 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: modern or just like the regular old theories of ghosts, 170 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: it's usually like where they died or a place that 171 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: they loved that they want to go back to. I 172 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: guess I could see a scenario where they're carrying the 173 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: body to the cemetery and then the ghost is like wait, wait, wait, 174 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: don't put me down there? Yet and then they just 175 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: like stay like a part of them just doesn't go 176 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: into the ground. Maybe, but like that. 177 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really that's a really good point. Like 178 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 2: I guess if I were to become a ghost, I well, 179 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: you know, maybe i'd finally use my gym membership. Maybe 180 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: I'd haunt the gym I go to equinox. 181 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: Ooh, you wouldn't have to pay for it. 182 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd haunt everybody. Yeah, you're right. I wouldn't even 183 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: want to haunt my house. It's like I would haunt 184 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: a comedy club. I do think the Improv Lab is 185 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: possibly haunted. 186 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: Okay, the Hollywood Improv Lab, Yes, in Los Angeles, California. 187 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: I have talked to Rita from the Improv she has 188 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: come on this podcast. I've talked to a few sources, yes, 189 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: that believe that that building is haunted. 190 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: So even though I don't believe it, I do have 191 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: that where I go. I've bombed too many times in 192 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: this room for it not to be haunted. 193 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Or it could just be an energy thing where 194 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: your energy and that room don't mix for some reason. Yes, 195 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: I have a place like that in town. 196 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: Where is it? 197 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: The lyric Hyperion? 198 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: Oh, I was just there. 199 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: I feel like I've never done well there. 200 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: Okay. I was just saying, how it's a good room 201 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: even if there's twelve people, So maybe my energy is good. 202 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: There Improv Lab. Weirdly, I usually do. 203 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: Alright, we just need to switch up those energies. Maybe 204 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: because the improv Lab when I moved here was it 205 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 2: looked like a black box theater. The stage is like 206 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: you walk into those doors, it's like straight ahead, so 207 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: it's not to the left. Word is now there's no 208 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: bar in there. And I used to do shows there 209 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: all the time. I did a show where you had 210 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: to say, like, hello, my name is you had to 211 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: put one of those tags on and I thought, you know, 212 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: would be really funny if I tried to bring back 213 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: the word see you ety And I said, I think 214 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: I'm going to bring back that word. So I go, 215 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 2: it's pretty funny if I just put that on there 216 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: and said Hello, my name is see you next Tuesday. 217 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what I can see any podcasts. So 218 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: I had that on Huge earthquake during the show. Huge huge, 219 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: like one of the biggest that I've felt in LA 220 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: in my twelve years, huge one. And I was like, 221 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 2: what if this building fell down and everyone was like 222 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: the police and stuff were like, well, this is great. 223 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: They have name tags on so we know who they are. Like, 224 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 2: this is gonna make it really easy. And then they 225 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: find me and they're like, is a cunts mom around? 226 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: And as it goes, every time people would see you, 227 00:12:58,440 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: they would see that. 228 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: Yes, and I would have had to be that forever 229 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: until someone solved my mystery my death. 230 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: Wow. Wait, let's go back to this like idea of 231 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: like synchronousity. So you believe in that you read into 232 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: that kind of a thing. 233 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: I do feel like there is like I don't know 234 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 2: what it is, like energy or whatever. When you're thinking 235 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: about somebody and then all of a sudden they like 236 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: call you for the first time in a long time. 237 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: There's some sort of energy there that I do enjoy. 238 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of putting you on the spot. 239 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: But is there any scenarios you can think of where 240 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: stuff like that has lined up? 241 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: Or Yeah? One time, so I had a friend that 242 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: died when we were nineteen, and so when I was 243 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: that age and I was living with my mom, I 244 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: was like so heartbroken about it, and so I thought 245 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: about her all night and I was just like, just 246 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: show me a sign. If you're out there, just give 247 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: me a sign. Give it god, if you're just being 248 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 2: the most dramatic, like everyone's watching me on the Truman Show. 249 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: And and then like a minute later, I looked at 250 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 2: my phone. The alarm went off and it said her name. 251 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: It wasn't her calling. It was like an alarm I 252 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: had set at some point for something and it said 253 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 2: her name. And I was like, holy shit, And like 254 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: obviously I remember that from when I was nineteen, so 255 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: it stuck with me. 256 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's like, listen, it gets weird when you're 257 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: talking about like people that you love to be like 258 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: they're a ghost or whatever. But like that's like a 259 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: ghost experience, right, It. 260 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: Felt like something enough that it's in. I mean, to 261 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: have something that I remember when I was nineteen. You know, 262 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: you're like, well that's one of the memories. Got like 263 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: five of them. 264 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. 265 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, not bad. 266 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of resurrection? Mary? Have you ever 267 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: heard of Hamburger? Mary? 268 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: Yes, now we're talking. 269 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: That's a drag queen dining experience. 270 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: Chain any shows at a Hamburger Barry? 271 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: Have you me too? Oh my god? Yes, This is 272 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: very different. This is Resurrection Mary. And I did a 273 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: little bit of research and I wanted to tell you 274 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: about Resurrection Mary because honestly I was not that familiar 275 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: with her and talk about legendary. She has been around 276 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: for years in the Justice, Illinois area. 277 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I wonder where that is? 278 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: Southwest of Chicago. Okay, looks like it's just outside of Chicago. 279 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: So this is primarily centered around resurrection cemetery. 280 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: Oh. 281 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: Most of the research that I found came from this 282 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: article from twenty twenty two on Chicago's the Chicago History 283 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: Museum website. So basically, it's kind of like an urban 284 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: legend situation. Did you have any urban legends in normal Illinois? 285 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: Not that I recall. 286 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a lot of towns have them, not always, 287 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: but it's it's usually very similar to this story like 288 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: this one you hear all around the world, which is 289 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: basically a hitchhiking ghost is what they call it. So 290 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: basically the story, it's believed that she was this real 291 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: woman that died when she was in her twenties or thirties. 292 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: There's a couple of stories that people think she was 293 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: out at the club one night dancing in like the 294 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: twenties or thirties. She's out there, you know, shaking it 295 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: and then she's walking home along the road and then 296 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: gets hit by a car or some other people say 297 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: that it was just some other lady that was like 298 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: a hit and round whatever. Either way, a car apparently 299 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: killed this woman. So they say that she was a 300 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: white woman, approximately twenty years old, looking snatched in a 301 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: white flowy gown with accessories like fully done up. What's 302 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: interesting is that she can leave the property. It's this 303 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: one road, Archer Road in Justice, Illinois. She's mainly around 304 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: this resurrection cemetery, but she gets a visitor passed and 305 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: she'll go off property and she goes out to local clubs, 306 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: meets fella's, she goes home with them, and then disappears 307 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: in their car. 308 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: Hmmm. So she goes home with them but stays in 309 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: the car. 310 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: She'll be like, can I have a red home? And 311 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: they're like, okay, I know what that means. And then 312 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: they start driving her and then they go past the 313 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: cemetery and they're like, so, anyway, what are your thoughts 314 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: on politics? And then they like look and she's. 315 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: Gone, wow, yeah, okay, And these men are these men 316 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: are coming from the bar, so they're definitely clear headed 317 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: when they tell the story. 318 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: Don't take the fun out of it. 319 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, you're right, you're right. 320 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: So there once was a place called Oh Henry's. It 321 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: was an old club, and it's believed that that's where 322 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,239 Speaker 1: she spent her last night, and people see her in 323 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: that area all the time. They say that she was 324 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: buried in Resurrection Cemetery and in the town. She's like 325 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: a little celebrity. There's drinks named after her. She's got 326 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: songs named after her. There's been a couple of low 327 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: budget movies, but most famously, she was on a couple 328 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: of segments of the original version of the TV show 329 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: Unsolved Mysteries, Oh, which I looked up and I watched 330 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: this one episode from season six, and in it, they've 331 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: got a couple of people on record telling stories, and 332 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: there's a man that says that in nineteen seventy nine, 333 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: he was a cab driver. He was about a mile 334 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: from the cemetery and he's lost and he sees this 335 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: woman and she's in all white and she's like walking 336 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: up the road all alone, and he's like, hey, can 337 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: you tell me where to go or whatever. He's like, 338 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: I'll give you a ride wherever you need, and then 339 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: she gets in the car. He looks back and she vanishes. 340 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: David Blaine's style. This other inner from Unsolved Mysteries, there's 341 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: this man that apparently they say they them say that 342 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: this was the first appearance of Mary. So this guy 343 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty nine, this guy's at this club and 344 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: he calls himself a ladies man and he sees this 345 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: fine honey in the club and she's all alone, and 346 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: he's like, you want to dance, and so they do. 347 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: They make small talk and she's like, oh, yeah, I 348 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: live like in the south side of town. And he 349 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: notices that her hands are freezing, and he's like, okay, 350 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: we got to get that circulation flowing, honey. But he 351 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: doesn't think much of it. So then he's like, can 352 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: I give you a ride home? And then she's like okay, 353 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: and then she's like, let's go down Archer Road and 354 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: he's like, you don't live over here, and then as 355 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: soon as they get to the cemetery, she's like stop. 356 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: She gets out of the car and vanishes. Chris's Angels style. 357 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: So he says that the next day, he went to 358 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: where she said she lived and he's knocking on. One 359 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: woman answers a door and she's like, Mary died five 360 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: years ago. There's also a couple that's in the episode 361 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: that go on record and they say they saw her. 362 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: She was very bright, she looked like she was illuminated 363 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: from within, and she had no face. And there's also 364 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: a lady and her friend that say they were driving 365 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: down the road and they saw her run right in 366 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: front of the car, but there was no impact. Many 367 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: people believe it was this lady named Mary Bragovi who 368 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: died in nineteen thirty four in a car accident, but 369 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: there's no exact identity of who Resurrection Mary is. And 370 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: one day justice will be served justice Illinois. 371 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 2: I mean, I really give her props for going meeting 372 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: a guy, getting a free ride, like hell yeah, not 373 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: even hooking up with these guys and being like I'm 374 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: getting my ride home, drop me off at the cemetery. 375 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: See you never thanks for the dance. 376 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: I know. She's like I could float back, or I 377 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: could have somebody, you know, maybe they might have like 378 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: some heat in their car. 379 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like, my uber app's actually broken right now, 380 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 2: So this mean a lot. Just strap me off at 381 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 2: the cemetery. 382 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: So realistically speaking, not even hypothetically, you never know this 383 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: could happen. You're back in Illinois, you take a wrong turn, 384 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: you're by yourself down a street and you see this 385 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: woman and all what And I'm sorry, But if you 386 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: see someone fully done up in a dress and accessories 387 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: and it's nighttime and they're just all alone on a 388 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: long stretch of a street, I'm already like, what's going 389 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: on there? 390 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? This is like runaway bride. I'm not like it's eerie. Seriously, 391 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 2: if I saw that, I'd be like, I'll call the cops, 392 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: but you're not getting in my car. Yeah, although I 393 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 2: have picked up a hitchhiker, but it was daytime. Like 394 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 2: if it were daytime, I think I would pick someone up. 395 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 2: Hey can I get a ride to Normal? And I'm like, 396 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: I'm going there anyway. Happen, honey, good for you. 397 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would at this point in time. 398 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: I'm so scared of these damn people. 399 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm always scared. Like it's hard to go in 400 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: public because I always think I'm gonna be like on 401 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: somebody's TikTok so I'd be afraid that she's like got 402 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: some sort of prank show happening. 403 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, seriously, welcome back to Resurrection, Mary talk. 404 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: What would you do if if if a woman were 405 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: on a street and she had a white dress on, Well, 406 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: let's see and if they pick me up, I'm going 407 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 2: to give them five hundred dollars. That's what they don't. 408 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: Know, honestly. She now that I'm thinking about it, she 409 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: was blonde. Maybe we get you a white dress and 410 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: we get you out there. 411 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: I would love it. 412 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: I would. 413 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: I would love to be I could be marry yeah, 414 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: except you know, I'd be like, no, I'm twenty. No, no, 415 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: I'm twenty. I just like I've gotten a lot of 416 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: sun I'm twenty that obviously I'm twenty. 417 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: Stop. You could pull it off, for sure. I kind 418 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: of believe in this one though, especial seeing these people 419 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: talking about it. 420 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: They seemed credible when you were watching. 421 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you could argue anybody's credible or not credible, 422 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: but these people were convinced, and like the one, two 423 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: of the scenarios were women who I'm sorry, I believe 424 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: a little bit more than you're right, Like a guy 425 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: that was out drinking and it's like, Okay, this girl disappeared. 426 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: That's why I never hooked up with her. She disappeared. 427 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, if they're talking shit on Resurrection Mary, you 428 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: have to understand that Justice sounds like a small town. 429 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 2: Their economy is going down in the dumps, and listen. 430 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 2: I just want to say I'm not trying to take 431 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: the fun out of it, because I do want I 432 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: want to be Resurrection Mary in the next TV show 433 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: about her. But I do think they have to think 434 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: about the key chains and the drinks and the T 435 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 2: shirts that they sell. Chicago does the same thing with 436 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 2: al Capone and just like yeah, you know, they have 437 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 2: to be like no, no, no, it's cool. It was 438 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: cool that he's a mobster and he murdered all these 439 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 2: people because we have to stay in business with these 440 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 2: mob tours and merch right, So I appreciate the business 441 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: sense as an entrepreneur myself being a comedian, I appreciate it. 442 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: Uh huh, yeah, I mean it's harmless for the most part. 443 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: I think it's just some lady down the street. When 444 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: I was watching the Unsolved Mysteries, apparently, I think she's 445 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: been on like two episodes and the one I was like, Okay, 446 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: that is Marcia Cross from Desperate Housewives, like the lady 447 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: that was playing her, but I could not confirm that. 448 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: But then I found an IMDb for another episode where 449 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: Resurrection Mary was on, and it's this actress, and so 450 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: I clicked on her profile. She also played Resurrection Mary 451 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 1: and the Resurrection Mary movie. 452 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: Wow, So is she still acting? 453 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: She's acting? 454 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: She does Roves or did Mary haunt her career? 455 00:24:54,800 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: Now she resurrected her Honey, she's out there getting booked 456 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: and blast, so good for her. 457 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 2: Yes. When I was in college, I worked for the 458 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: radio station and I worked the graveyard shift, and they 459 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 2: would always have those people calling in on coast to 460 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: coasts that had seen all the UFOs and all the 461 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: ghosts and stuff, and it was hard for me to 462 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: find them credible, although I wanted to, but it was 463 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: hard because, you know, it sounded like it was an afterthought. 464 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: They'd tell you a whole story and then they'd be like, oh, yeah, 465 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: and by the way, I saw UFO my front yard, 466 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: all right, thanks for having me by. 467 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know what people gain from that, Like, 468 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: I guess it's just fun. 469 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 2: It is fun to listen to. I mean, it is 470 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 2: for sure entertaining. 471 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm always like a little bit more suspicious when it's 472 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: like people are trying to sell their story to a 473 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: big movie company to turn into something like when money 474 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: starts getting involved, That's when I'm like, is this real 475 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: or you just making this whole thing up? Yeah, But 476 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, if it's a good story, it's a good story. Yeah. 477 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: Like I try to call my mom so busy for me. 478 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: Tried to call her before the podcast because I was like, 479 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: I wonder if my mom believes in ghosts. I've never 480 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: asked her that, And you know, she grew up Catholic, 481 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: and then I was baptized Catholic, but we were like, 482 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: we kind of went to Lutheran and all that, so 483 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 2: we're Catholic light not really religious. Then my grandma's super religious. 484 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: So she's out to lunch with my grandma and I 485 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: was like, do you believe in ghosts? And my mom 486 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 2: was like, I want to believe in ghosts, And I 487 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 2: was like, okay, great, so we're the same. And then 488 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: my grandma chimes in and says, oh, I believe in ghosts, 489 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: and there's a ghost with a bowler hat who lives 490 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: in our house. 491 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: So and I do. 492 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: Find that interesting that. I mean, like this doesn't have 493 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: to be the the intersection for everybody. But I was 494 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 2: like a lot of the people that I know that 495 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: do believe in ghosts are also really religious, and I 496 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: know that that's not the I know that, like the 497 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 2: people in La that I know it's that's not the case. 498 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: But the people back home that I know religion and 499 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 2: then believe in normal stuff and my grandma loves zodiac 500 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: science and all of that. 501 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: I think that it's a foundation. A lot of times, 502 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: it gets you early on into this idea that there's 503 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,719 Speaker 1: more than meets the eye, or there's like believing in 504 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: higher powers and miracles and like all of these things, 505 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: because it's told to you by adults that are like, 506 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: this is a fact. Actually, this is not a fairy tale. 507 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: This is real, that these certain things can happen. I mean, 508 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: so many of the people that we talked on this 509 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: podcast grew up Catholic, and mainly Catholic, the paranormal believers, 510 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: it seems. But yeah, it's like I don't I'm not 511 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: Catholic at all anymore, but I still have stuff that's 512 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: like deep in there. 513 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. I love the idea of but yeah, I mean 514 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: that's why we love the idea of believing. It's like 515 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 2: Santa Claus. Love it. 516 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: What about Santa Claus isn't not real? 517 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 2: Well? Shit, sorry forretend I didn't say that. 518 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: Are you implying? 519 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: No? No, no, he is real and actually he's really hot. 520 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: That's the thing. That's the only thing they get wrong 521 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 2: about him is that he is fucking dripping and sweat 522 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: because he's working out so much and he's hot. 523 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, okay, seance off. Yeah, yeah, what's in 524 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: those cookies? So what do you think about a haunted doll? 525 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: Do you think that a doll could be haunted? 526 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 2: I fucking hope. So now this is what I like. 527 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: And I love the movie. I love where this is 528 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 2: going for film. 529 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: You like Annabelle? Oh you know what. 530 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 2: I did see Annabelle, and I thought Chucky was a 531 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: little too. I don't know, I Chucky isn't believable to 532 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: me because I think it does have to be an 533 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: old porcelain female doll, or maybe like a cabbage patch 534 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: doll will be fun. 535 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: Well, Chucky is a situation where a murderer did some 536 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: kind of. I believe it's implied as voodoo, which I 537 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: think is offensive to people that practice for But he 538 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: somehow set a spell and then got inside of this doll. 539 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: So now an active serial killer just lives in a doll, right, which. 540 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time on eBay looking at 541 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: haunted dolls. I know this community inside and out, and 542 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: I spend hours trying to find ones to feature every 543 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: week on the show. Usually the story goes that a 544 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: person once lived and then they died. They were given 545 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: certain options at death, I think where they said Heaven, Hell, eBay, doll, 546 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: Which one do you want? They chose the third, and 547 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: that's how we end up here. It's time for a 548 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: segment I call the dolls are living? Okay, Jiha, could 549 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: you please show MO and I Jackie wowo. Jackie's got 550 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: some bisexual lighting on her. She knows her angles. She 551 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: is looking up in the air at something. It's not 552 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: good whatever she's looking at. She has got like a 553 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: nineties kind of sun hat, kind of blossom. Yes, she's 554 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: got what we need always, which is a kind of 555 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: roughly white dress. Little resurrection Mary. Yes, does this scare you? 556 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: Here's what's alarming to me, the right hand is disjointed. 557 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: There's something happening. The hands are too long and realistic 558 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: for me. And she doesn't have shoes on, so maybe 559 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 2: this is Resurrection Mary. Should I have any shoes on? 560 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: She's walking in the street with her white dress. 561 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Resurrection Mary. Didn't have a hat, which I don't know. 562 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: Maybe she could use a hat. But I say, Resurrection 563 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: Mary and Jackie team up. There's your sitcom. Yeah, let 564 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: me tell you about Resurrection Jackie. Because she comes with 565 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: a biography that somebody on eBay wrote. She knows her worth. 566 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: She is going for two hundred and fifty dollars or 567 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: best offer. They are not taking bids on this. They 568 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: say two hundred and fifty is what we are looking for. 569 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: The person that writes this says that she is the 570 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: spirit of a very friendly Irish lady who also lived 571 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: Now this is kind of ironic. I didn't choose this. 572 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: But she's from the Chicago area and she lived there 573 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: from nineteen twenty five till nineteen seventy. And this vessel, 574 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: as they referred to her, was found in a garage 575 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: that was collapsing and it was scheduled to be raised. 576 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: She was packed inside one of the many boxes that 577 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: were scattered through the structure. The house that shared the 578 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: same property of the garage was the scene of a 579 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: very active haunting for years, and the owner pinned down 580 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: the disturbances to this doll and promptly removed it from 581 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: the home and put it in the garage. But this 582 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: didn't slow Jackie down for a minute, as she continued 583 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: to make herself known to anyone who ventured out into 584 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: the garage. She produces disembodied giggles, extreme cold spots, sudden 585 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: and uncomfortable pressure changes, shadows, and the feeling of being watched. 586 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: Her beautiful eyes follow you everywhere, and occasionally she likes 587 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: to poke people. She hides things quite often and leaves 588 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: the refrigerator door open sometimes anyway. Basically, they believe it's 589 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: this lady Jackie, who died of natural causes at the 590 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: age of eighty two. Ultimately, she's a positive haunting. She's 591 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: very kind, She's happy to have company and to help others. 592 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: You can smell different perfumes coming off of her. You know, 593 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: doesn't sound like one of the worst ones I've ever seen. 594 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: I just love the gas lighting of like it feels 595 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 2: like when you're in a bad relationship and you're like no, no, 596 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: he's like really positive and he's like a pretty nice guy. 597 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna use a guy for this one. He's 598 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: like a pretty nice guy. He does poke me a lot, 599 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: and he leaves the refrigerator door open, and we had 600 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: to put him in the garage because he was haunting us. 601 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: But he's very positive. 602 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 2: I do think, Okay, if they know the doll, if 603 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: they know Jackie is haunted, you know, the decision to 604 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: just say, let's just put her in the garage instead 605 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: of get her off the premises, that makes me believe 606 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 2: that they really do enjoy Jackie. So maybe maybe she 607 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: is a good one. 608 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's not that bad. But also, who's paying for 609 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: this refrigerator bill? Okay, you can't just leave that open? 610 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 2: Girl? 611 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's she doing in the refrigerat? I love how 612 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: it's implied, like when she goes in there to get 613 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: a lacroix, she sometimes forgets to shut it, like. 614 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 2: That's why her hand is all messed up. She can 615 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 2: open it, but like the wait is too much for 616 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: this little horse Lindall to close it. She did it 617 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 2: once and it did that to her hand. 618 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: Oh god, well for two hundred and fifty dollars. If 619 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: anyone wants Jackie, she's there for the taking. Can I 620 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: play you some ghost voices? 621 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 2: Please? 622 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: It's time for EVP or ev pase. Have you ever 623 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: heard the term EVP. No, it stands for electronic voice phenomena. 624 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: So basically, when a ghost hunter captures a ghost speaking, 625 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: they call it EVP. And they could capture it with 626 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: any kind of recording device. Really, it could be on 627 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: a video or you know, with an audio recorder whatever. 628 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 1: A lot of times people will put these on YouTube 629 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: or TikTok and I find them and I'm going to 630 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: play you two of them, and I want you to 631 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: tell me what you think it might say, and then 632 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: I'll give you four options, one of them being what 633 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: the person that posted it believes it is saying. Now, 634 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: this particular clip, I was trying to see if there 635 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: were any from Resurrection Mary Area, and I did find 636 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: a compilation video of alleged EVPs that have happened there. 637 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: It was posted by Chicago Land Halloween. It doesn't really 638 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: say who recorded these, but they're like vintage EVPs. This 639 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: first one is from nineteen eighty five, right around the 640 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: area of the cemetery. What is this ghost saying? Okay, whisper, 641 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: let me play it again. Yeah, let me tell you, 642 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: this is one of the better ones we've had on 643 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 1: this show. We play it again. 644 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I have an idea. 645 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think. 646 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: At the beginning, it sounds like they're saying, there we go, 647 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 2: uh huh, there we go. But then I can't really 648 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: I don't know what happens after that. It's almost like 649 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 2: their phone dropped. 650 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: I know you're right. 651 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 2: Wait, there we go than a fax machine the sound 652 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 2: of a fact. Okay, this is babies. 653 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: Well, here's some options. Is it A you know my sister, right, 654 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: B there you go see you at night? 655 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 2: Oh? Is it C? 656 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: There's no more go to the light? Or D I 657 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: don't know, just bring me a sprite. Okay, they're trying 658 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: to get that first quenched. Any of those stand out 659 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: to you. 660 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna have to say B. Although don't 661 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 2: we all want it to be C. 662 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: There's no more go to the light. 663 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's better for the script. 664 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 1: It really is, but they believe it was B. Okay, 665 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: there you go see you at night. Okay, now that 666 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: we know that, oh, I get hear a cee you 667 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: at night? 668 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can hear it. 669 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: Okay, So this next one is from nineteen ninety one. 670 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: What is it saying? Okay, this is a very different one. Yes, 671 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: it's a little bit. It sounds like, ooh, what a 672 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: mota bang bang. It's like that kind of. 673 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 2: Do you think it was one of the first recordings 674 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 2: of olymp Biscuit song or something. 675 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: Yes, it was the demo for uh kid Rock? 676 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 2: Oh it was kid Rock. 677 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: It was like, how dare you? 678 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 2: I am so embarrassed, I'll just leave. 679 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: Can you decipher any words of bah? 680 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 2: It felt like it was like a timpany druma one point. 681 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 2: I don't hear any words there? Do you hear words? Well? 682 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: It's also interesting because there sounds like there's like little 683 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: cries in the back or something like fame. Yeah, I 684 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: don't like that. 685 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say just to say something, I'll say, hey, 686 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 2: give me my sprite, okay, just in case. 687 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: Just in case, you never know. It could be. Is 688 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: it A I'll rob your man? Is it B A 689 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: lot of pain? Is it C where have you been? 690 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: Or D kid Rock's first demo? 691 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 2: I want it to be D what do you think 692 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna. 693 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: Say d Okay, you know this person believed it with 694 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: c where have you been? You know, I like it. 695 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: See it sounds like a very scary voice, but it 696 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: could be friendly. It could be like, oh my god, 697 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: where have you been? 698 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 699 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes people can't help the way their voice sounds. 700 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: All right, Well, anyway, let's whind this sucker down. Let's 701 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: just do one thing real quick. I'm just gonna sort 702 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: of rapid fire throw a couple of unexplained phenomena type 703 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: things to you, and let's see if you got any 704 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: thoughts on them. Great psychics. 705 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 2: Okay, So I had a girlfriend in La Her mom 706 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 2: was a celebrity psychic, a psychic to the celebrities. 707 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: Stop. 708 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 2: The first time I met her, we went to Malibu. 709 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 2: She'd like rented a house. My girlfriend and I had 710 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 2: gotten into a big fight on the way there, and 711 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 2: her mom could sense it, like when we were even 712 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 2: though I was really fake. You know, it's like you're 713 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 2: meeting somebody for the first time. So the fact that 714 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 2: she says it was good because I'm a pretty good 715 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 2: actor in those situations. 716 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: Hi, how are you so good to see you? 717 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 2: We have such a great drive up. And the thing 718 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 2: is that she told my girlfriend very early on that 719 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 2: we are not going to make it. We're not going 720 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 2: to be together and I'm not her person, which I 721 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,720 Speaker 2: would imagine is very frustrating for the daughter to say, 722 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 2: like can you just not tell me? Like, can I 723 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 2: just see this one through? But she was right? So 724 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? 725 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: Wow? So do you believe? Like, have you been to 726 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 1: a psychic on your own? 727 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 2: I've had like my palm read like at a party, sure, 728 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 2: but no, I've never done a psychic. I've been with 729 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 2: friends you know when they did. But I think I 730 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 2: have a bad energy when I walk in because it's 731 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 2: like it's I think they know. It's not very open. 732 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 2: I think they know that I'm like trying to stump them, 733 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 2: which is wrong. But my thoughts are I'm actually interested. 734 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 2: I want one that's like in a house neon sign. 735 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: I actually live in one of those because I just 736 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: love funky, weird shit. And I own a neon sign 737 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: from a tarot card reader that went out of business, 738 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: and it's in my living room. 739 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 2: That's amazing and it's huge. 740 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: It's like put it in your. 741 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 2: Window and I'll come over for a reading. 742 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: I know, when I put it up, I was like, 743 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 1: can any windows see this? Because I don't want people 744 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: showing up thinking I'm going to do that. What do 745 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 1: you think of horoscopes? 746 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 2: Here's the thing with them. I do think. I'm like, 747 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 2: that's so dumb. And then every time I read my horoscope, 748 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, it's so me, it's so me. And 749 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 2: then I'll be like, you know what, I'm going to read. 750 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: Another one, a different sign, Yeah, a. 751 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 2: Different sign, just to see if they're all like kind 752 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 2: of vague, and I'm like, no, that's genuinely not me. 753 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: Wow. 754 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 2: And I'm a Leo, and you know a lot of 755 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 2: maybe maybe Leo's are just kind of basic and you 756 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 2: can just kind of say you want attension. And then 757 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,240 Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, you're right. 758 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very Leo to think that way. I know 759 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,240 Speaker 1: nothing about horoscopes, but. 760 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 2: You know what, I will say that, like, there was 761 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 2: a point of my life where I had a lot 762 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 2: of Geminis in my life, a lot of them best friends. 763 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 2: I dated a few geminis. When I first moved to La. 764 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 2: Dated this Gemini who was like head lesbian of La 765 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 2: or something. Probably cheated on me. A million times. I 766 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 2: was like, I'm not dating any more Geminis, and so 767 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 2: I believed in it enough to know that I was 768 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 2: not made for geminis and they are like too much 769 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 2: for me. So then I end up meeting my wife 770 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 2: at a bowling alley and she's like, you know, double 771 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 2: Gemini or like whatever Gemini everything, and I was just 772 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,919 Speaker 2: like this is going to be a disaster, and then yeah, 773 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 2: we ended up getting married. She doesn't come off as 774 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 2: Gemini to me. But of course I was like, I'm 775 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 2: not dating any Geminis and ended up marrying one. 776 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: Interesting mm hmm. I'm a Libra and I'm always around libras. 777 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: Everyone I know is a damn Libra. It's like so 778 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: many birthday parties in the fall. 779 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 2: For me, that must mean that you guys can hang out, 780 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 2: because it's like my wife, she doesn't really have a 781 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 2: lot of Gemini friends. Yeah, any they can't hang out. 782 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 2: There can only be one Gemini in a room. 783 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,919 Speaker 1: I've definitely had my moments where I'm like, all right, 784 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: I'm going to learn about this stuff, and then five 785 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: minutes in I'm like, Duo Lingo is pissed at me 786 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: because I haven't been doing that, like, I've got things 787 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: I need to do. Yeah, I need to stretch, you know, 788 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: so I've just never gotten around to it. 789 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 2: I need to stretch. I need to stretch. Okay, I 790 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 2: need to stretch. 791 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: I can't deal with this right now, but it's interesting 792 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: to hear about. 793 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to do any hobby at this point 794 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 2: that requires studying. Like you said, it's just like, I 795 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 2: have other things I need to finish. 796 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, and luckily we all know a thousand people that 797 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: have done the work, and I just called them. Right, 798 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: what do you think of demons? 799 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 2: Demons? 800 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: Do you think that's real? Just the concept that there's 801 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: like evil energies. 802 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 2: I think there are some people that are truly evil. Yeah, 803 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 2: I think everyone's like, no, everybody's born good. I was like, 804 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I've met some people that are 805 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 2: just like, there's just no way, I know. I think 806 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 2: maybe I believe in like the demon version of a person, 807 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 2: but I think it's just someone that doesn't know how 808 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 2: to like fix anything about themselves. Right, it's rude. 809 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: But what about something not connected to a human, just 810 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: like an evil energy? 811 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 2: No? I like that, not at all. 812 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,240 Speaker 1: What about past lives? 813 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 2: No, not at all. I love when people are like, 814 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, maybe we knew each other 815 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 2: in a past life, and I'm like, nope, I. 816 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: Didn't know you. It was my first one. 817 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is my first I'm actually quite young. 818 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 2: And uh, I'll see you in the next one. 819 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 1: It could be you never know, it could be this 820 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: is your first one. 821 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 2: Like I feel like I was his stand up. You don' 822 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 2: want to be so mad if my next life, if 823 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,720 Speaker 2: I had no sense of humor, I would be so upset. 824 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: But would you would? 825 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 2: You know? 826 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 1: It's like that's the weird thing about the past lives. 827 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I I owned a business in my 828 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: past life, and a crocodile ate me. That's why I'm 829 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 1: scared of crocodiles. And it's like, but what else do 830 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: you remember about the business? Do you remember how to 831 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: run a business? 832 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 2: No? Well, then, like, if I knew I had a 833 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 2: past life, I feel like this life I would have 834 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 2: so many lessons for my last life that I'd be 835 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 2: really successful early prodigy. Maybe I would know, don't quit 836 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 2: like playing the piano, learn the guitar. 837 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,919 Speaker 1: You know, but maybe you've uncovered those lessons that were 838 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: deep inside from. 839 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 2: The past life they're just coming out. 840 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just now being released. I do think that 841 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 1: I have a lot of knowledge about things that I'm like, 842 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how I know that, but. 843 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 2: Like, if you could guess, what do you think your 844 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 2: career was in your past life? 845 00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: I think I was a stay at home like housewife, 846 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: not stay at home mom. Yeah, and not the kind 847 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: that takes care of the house all day. I was 848 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: the kind that sat at home on her ass. And 849 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 1: I don't like that. I am not that anymore. 850 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 2: It's fucked up because it's like you don't even know 851 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,280 Speaker 2: what era it happens. It doesn't happen in a linear fashion, 852 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 2: you know. It's like did you have TV back then 853 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 2: or did you genuinely just have to sit on your ass? Oh, 854 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 2: I know, with no devices? 855 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: Like That's what I always think about this. Okay, So 856 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: let's say our past lives are like in a linear 857 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 1: way or whatever. So someone dies, then their body you know, 858 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: is dead, and then the spirit like comes out and 859 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: they're like, all right, where do I go next? Maybe 860 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: they go to like a temp agency or something. They're like, 861 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 1: what do you got for me on this one? And 862 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: then they're like Okay, we have this baby in normal 863 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: Illinois and you're like, sure, let's do it. Let's start 864 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: back from like and then you okay, jump in. Bye. 865 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 2: I love the idea of a temp agency. What do 866 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 2: you call it when it's like in between purgatory purgatory? Yeah, 867 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 2: purgatory temp agency, and that obviously you're getting there so late. 868 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 2: Everybody already got the babies that are being born in 869 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 2: New York, and you have to like take the normal 870 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 2: Illinois one, knowing that most people stay in central Illinois, 871 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 2: so you have to accept that, like, hey, maybe I'm 872 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 2: an Illinois girl for life. 873 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: But maybe the last one was you need that, you know, Yeah. 874 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 2: Maybe you're trying to like live a simple life after 875 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 2: sitting on your ass. Your first one, you're gonna be 876 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,720 Speaker 2: a farmer the second one. 877 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: Honestly, this is our sitcom. 878 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 2: Yes, I love it. Somebody get Hollywood on the line 879 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 2: right now. 880 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: I know a few people in Hollywood. Don't you worry. 881 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 1: This is gonna happen. It will happen. Just one last one, Bigfoot, Bigfoot? No, 882 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:54,720 Speaker 1: all right, that was easy. 883 00:47:55,120 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 3: Uh Mo, thanks for joining me, thank you, thank you 884 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 3: for having me, even though I'm obviously such a non believer, 885 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 3: but I really support anyone who believes in anything, as 886 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 3: long as it's something that's not harmful to others. 887 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,800 Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, and that's what we like here. 888 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 1: We like openness and just pondering. 889 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. You know. I gave birth to my daughter and 890 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 2: completely delusional for the first three months because you really 891 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 2: do get no sleep. And I was like, that is 892 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 2: the time I would have seen ghosts and it didn't happen. 893 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 2: So I was pretty upset about that. But well, one 894 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 2: of these days I'm open. Let me know. 895 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: Hit me a slide into my DMS resurrection Mary, hit 896 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: me up. Where would you like people to find you, 897 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 1: whether they're ghosts or not? 898 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 2: On Instagram at Momo Welch. I've been putting up clips. 899 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,479 Speaker 2: My art's on there, and you just find me there. 900 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:53,399 Speaker 2: That's where I live. 901 00:48:53,760 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: Well, thanks for doing this, Thank you so much. Thank 902 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 1: you so much to mo Welch. I love you all, 903 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you 904 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: to haunt me, don't haunt me. Okay bye, This has 905 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: been an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal 906 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: experience on the podcast. I read stories out loud and 907 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 1: sometimes I'll even call you so email me at ghosted 908 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: by Roz at gmail dot com. You can send a 909 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 1: DM or voice message to the show's instagram at ghosted 910 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: by Roz. Give us a follow while you're there, and 911 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 1: follow me Roz on Instagram at roz Hernandez and on 912 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 1: TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. 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