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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and we come to episode two of the

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Speaker 1: Hammer Territory podcast. I am your host, Brat Roland, and

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Speaker 1: as always I am joined by my friend Scott Coleman. Scott,

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Speaker 1: it was a brutal week for the Braves, but the last.

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Speaker 1: Here we are with episode two and plan to talk

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Speaker 1: about Hey Brad, good to be on with you.

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Speaker 2: As you said, it was not the friendliest of weeks

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Speaker 2: for the Braves, but as we do on this podcast,

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Speaker 2: as longtime listeners know, we try to talk through it

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Speaker 2: and find the silver linings and just try to hope

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Speaker 2: that the Braves have some better days.

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Speaker 1: On the horizon. They certainly will. And before we dive

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Speaker 1: into all that, episode one is available in your feed

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Speaker 1: right now as well, So if you missed any of that,

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Speaker 1: But with all that out of the way, we'll get

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Speaker 1: sort of broad At the top of this podcast, we'll

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Speaker 1: kind of dig into the weekend series between the Braves

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Speaker 1: and the Dodgers. It was a really rough week, as

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Speaker 1: we both just reference, but one in five for the Braves.

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Speaker 1: They have actually only lost five or six twice all

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Speaker 1: last season. Even with that, they're twenty and twelve, so

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Speaker 1: isn't as if the sky is following. We'll probably come

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Speaker 1: back to that theme in a second, but as we'll

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Speaker 1: has been letting the Braves down, and that's a a

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Speaker 1: bit of a change from usual. But Scott, I mean

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Speaker 1: but it's the offense and it's like kind of a shrug.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's pretty hard to watch right now, which

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Speaker 1: is not usual for this team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very bizarre, especially after the historic run that

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Speaker 2: basically the same lineup from a year ago did, and

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Speaker 2: I mean just night in and night out, the Braves

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Speaker 1: It's very, very weird to watch.

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Speaker 2: I guess big picture twenty and twelve after about five

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Speaker 2: talked in the final week of spring training that the

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Speaker 2: Braves would be twenty and twelve, you'd take it.

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Speaker 1: Of course.

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Speaker 2: Obviously that's a good pace. It's about one hundred win pace,

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Speaker 2: and that's all fine and dandy, but it doesn't feel

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Speaker 1: The vibes are not great.

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Speaker 2: It seems like the players are pressing a little bit.

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Speaker 2: If you go on social media, it does seem like

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Speaker 2: the world is ending. And to be clear, the Braves

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Speaker 2: have not played well. They got beat up pretty good

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Speaker 2: Braves were just out class and basically every facet, and

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Speaker 2: that Seattle series was tough as well, just ran into

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Speaker 2: With the way they performed over the weekend, and the

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Speaker 2: You just have to hope that the bets are going

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Speaker 2: that's a good way to kind of frame it, and

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Speaker 2: what happened this weekend kind of chronologically now, because there's

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Speaker 1: On Friday. Riley hit a home run Ronnie also did

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Speaker 1: And that's been a theme the last week or so,

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Speaker 1: But it was just a missed opportunity that was right

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Speaker 2: Heyo Tani experience this weekend. He just destroyed them single handedly.

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Speaker 2: relief corps. Just a frustrating loss, to be sure. It

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Speaker 2: was the second walkoff loss for the Braves in four

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Speaker 2: in Seattle, and just a tough way to lose games.

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Speaker 2: Every loss is going to sting. But when you lose

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Speaker 2: an eleven innings in a game that I think it's

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Speaker 2: it just stings a little bit extra, that.

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Speaker 1: Is for sure. And it was a close game, you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously it's a coin flip in theory when you go

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Speaker 1: to extra innings. Also, the Braves played their sixth extra

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Speaker 1: a pace that is like sky high last year. Just

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Speaker 1: for reference, they only played eleven games in extra innings

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Speaker 1: they're not mashing as much offensively, they kind of lease

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Speaker 2: fortune on the horizon. But you're right, the stuff does

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Speaker 2: not look great. He's leaving a lot of stuff in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the zone, and I just don't think

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Speaker 2: the Braves are doing Tyler Matzik any favors by leaving

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Speaker 2: him out there and kind of throwing him.

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Speaker 1: To the wolves.

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Speaker 2: He is a veteran, of course, so maybe there's an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to place him on the injured list. The Braves

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Speaker 2: are off on Monday and then begin a two game

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Speaker 2: series with Boston. You know, maybe they put Matzk on

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Speaker 2: the injured list, whether it's a real injury or not,

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Speaker 2: and just see if he can work through some things.

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Speaker 2: Maybe give him a little bit of a breather, have

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Speaker 2: him throw some pens, and just try to recalibrate everything

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Speaker 2: because right now, man, you said it perfectly. If you

447
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Speaker 2: took Tyler Matzick's name away, I don't know how you

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Speaker 2: keep sending out a reliever with a ten e er.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's just not conducive to winning baseball. And

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Speaker 2: the Braves do have some options in the minor leagues

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Speaker 2: who they could replace Matsick with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's been a little bit unlucky to this point.

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Speaker 1: We sort of paint that picture, but it is true

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Speaker 1: if you look at all the peripheral numbers, he's been unlucky.

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Speaker 1: But you know, this is not everything but his he's throwing,

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Speaker 1: he's not He's not throwing as hard as he used to,

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Speaker 1: and that happens, you know, with age and being out

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Speaker 1: for a year and a half. But he was averaging

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Speaker 1: with his fastball in the ninety six range back in

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Speaker 1: that World Series run and missing bats as a result,

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Speaker 1: also getting ground balls as a result. And now he's

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Speaker 1: sitting in that ninety three ninety four range. And that's

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Speaker 1: not a huge, huge, huge drop off, but it does

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Speaker 1: matter when you're something to throwing two and a half

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Speaker 1: miles an hour less and uh, you know, things beyond

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Speaker 1: that so we could do a deeper dive. We need

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Speaker 1: to later on. You mentioned the other guys that are

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Speaker 1: replacement options. We're talking about Pierce Johnson in a second

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Speaker 1: here when it comes to the news. But they do

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Speaker 1: have Ken Giles kicking around. They have Ray Kerr, who

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Speaker 1: they acquired proactively this winner, plus some other guys who

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Speaker 1: are already in the system. So if they want to

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Speaker 1: get creative, they can go ahead and do that. But uh,

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Speaker 1: at least we wanted to mention it, even if it's

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Speaker 1: not the most fun conversation to have in the world.

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Speaker 1: Let's preably talk about Sunday's game. They were down two

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Speaker 1: nothing in what Scott five minutes. That's generous, maybe even

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Speaker 1: less than that.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: They went they went down in an order on the

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Speaker 1: top of the first and then Fred opened his day

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Speaker 1: by walking Mookie Bets and allowing the home run to

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Speaker 1: O Tani. You know, two of the five best players

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Speaker 1: in the world. So not a huge shame there.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And to Max's credit, he settled in and pushed pretty

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Speaker 1: well until what the sixth or so, uh, and really

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Speaker 1: only made two or three bat pitches in the entire game.

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Speaker 1: At least they got punished and they got they got

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Speaker 1: punished for home runs, but I thought Max was okay.

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Speaker 1: Not a whole lot to discuss there. The reginally had

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Speaker 1: one real threat in the entire game. It was the

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Speaker 1: seventh inning Izuna homeward. And I'm not trying to make

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Speaker 1: a two a huge deal out of this, but Adam

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Speaker 1: Nuvaal should have been on first base and they should

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Speaker 1: have had two guys on with two outs. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that would have mattered. But Duval very obviously

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Speaker 1: had the fourth ball that would have walked him, and

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Speaker 1: it was like a foot outside and it was called

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Speaker 1: strike three, one count, and then he struck out the

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Speaker 1: next pitch, and that was like, all right, we're done here. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It kind of perfectly summarizes where the Braves are at offensively,

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Speaker 2: where a should have been Ball four seems like a

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Speaker 2: death blow to this team's offensive chances because I don't

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Speaker 2: know if anybody was expecting the lineup to come through

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Speaker 2: in those final two innings. You mentioned Max Freed. It's

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Speaker 2: just been an odd year for Max. I believe it was.

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Speaker 2: David O'Brien of The Athletic pointed out that his era

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Speaker 2: Freed's era in the first inning of games is fifteen

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Speaker 2: point eight. Fifteen point eight through seven starts. For a guy,

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Speaker 2: when he is right, is one of the best in baseball.

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Speaker 2: After the first inning, his ERA is sub two. So

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Speaker 2: if Max I don't know what he needs to do,

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Speaker 2: maybe he alters his maybe it's just fluky baseball, Maybe

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Speaker 2: he alters his warm up routine a little bit. Maybe

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Speaker 2: it's just one of those things that will balance out.

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Speaker 2: But an era, I mean every I believe, every start

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Speaker 2: but one, he has given up a run in the

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Speaker 2: first inning, and seemingly if he can get through the

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Speaker 2: first inning without any damage, he's been good. He's been

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Speaker 2: really capable. And the Max freed that we all know.

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Speaker 2: And once again on Sunday, especially with the way the

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Speaker 2: offense was going, when the Braves went down two to

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Speaker 2: oh after about six pitches, I think everyone kind of

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Speaker 2: groaned and thought, well, that is not great.

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Speaker 1: That's right. And again like if the offense was cooking

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Speaker 1: right now, would have felt more alive and look, I

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Speaker 1: will raise my head. I was thinking, all right, this

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Speaker 1: is this is a game. They're in it. They're down

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Speaker 1: two nothing seemingly for an hour and a half. And

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Speaker 1: even when they're down, you know four nothing. It was like,

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Speaker 1: all right, they're still in this thing. When I was

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Speaker 1: doing a homers, they're They're alive. And this team has

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Speaker 1: kind of trained us, over a large sample size to

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Speaker 1: kind of think that no game is over, given that

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Speaker 1: their potency offensively, it just didn't happen and a little

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Speaker 1: bit of unlucky. I would say, we'll talk about the

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Speaker 1: offense more broadly in a second, but the Braves had

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Speaker 1: five of the top seven hardest hit balls in terms

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Speaker 1: of exitvelocity on Sunday in the game, and they had

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Speaker 1: and they scored one run. Lots of one hundred and

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Speaker 1: five mile an hour outs has been a theme recently

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Speaker 1: that does not excuse the offense. I'm not telling you

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Speaker 1: that that they're playing well, but they have also been unlucky.

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Speaker 1: In addition to being powerless or how do you want

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Speaker 1: to impotent, whichever a just if you want to use,

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Speaker 1: they've also been unlucky along the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the lack of home runs is probably the weirdest thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I believe it's three home runs in the last ten games.

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Speaker 2: I might be off by a little bit there, but nonetheless, man,

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Speaker 2: the home run ball has gone away, and it feels

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Speaker 2: like They've also had about a dozen baseballs to the

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Speaker 2: warning track that just haven't gotten out. Marcelo Zuna had

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Speaker 2: one on Saturday night that, or rather Friday night, that

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Speaker 2: almost went out, would have given the Braves a lead

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Speaker 2: in the ninth inning, just died before the wall. Matt

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Speaker 2: Olsen had a ball to the warning track today that

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Speaker 2: just died it. It's just been one of those things,

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Speaker 2: and it feels like once the avalanche starts, it just

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Speaker 2: keeps on coming. Braves just haven't been able to catch

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Speaker 2: a break. I think maybe this is our opportunity to

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Speaker 2: talk about the offense as a whole. There is too

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Speaker 2: much talent here for this team to continue to struggle

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Speaker 2: and slump the way it has. But we're going on

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Speaker 2: almost two weeks now of the offense being pretty mia.

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Speaker 2: It's frustrating, and I think he as an educated baseball fan,

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Speaker 2: you have to know that better days are ahead. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone's necessarily excited whenever this team

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Speaker 2: comes to the plate, because pretty much everyone right now

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Speaker 2: is in a slump of some kind.

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Speaker 1: Before I answer that and talk about the offense being

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Speaker 1: really really gross and throwing us some more numbers, we

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Speaker 1: should at least quickly promote our sister show at Dodgers Territory.

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Speaker 1: I know Race Fans Play won't be itching to listen

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Speaker 1: to more positive stuf about the Dodgers, but certainly should

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Speaker 1: listen to Dodger Territory, available live Mondays and Thursdays at

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Speaker 1: three pm and also at the Foul Territory YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: I believe right now the only two team shows on

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Speaker 1: the Fall Territory at work are US and Dodgers Territories.

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Speaker 1: Check that out or you get your podcasts. But it's

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Speaker 1: a good point, Scott. Like the offenses, the numbers are gross.

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Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned the three home runs recently. I

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Speaker 1: will say this, they only have seven home runs in

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Speaker 1: the last fifteen days. That is the fewest at all

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Speaker 1: of baseball. And I would have lost a bet on

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Speaker 1: the Braves ever being dead last in baseball and home

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Speaker 1: runs over a two week sample size this season. It's

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Speaker 1: only two weeks, but that just doesn't happen to this team.

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Speaker 1: Just as a reminder if you've forgotten, this is the

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Speaker 1: same almost the same rotch. I won't say it's exactly

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Speaker 1: the same, but it's close to being the same team

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Speaker 1: that that led all of baseball and home runs last

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Speaker 1: year by more than fifty home runs. Like they were

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Speaker 1: leaps and bounds ahead of everyone in home runs. It's

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Speaker 1: slower percentage all that stuff, and the season on numbers

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Speaker 1: are still okay offensively, they're still top tier offensively, but

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Speaker 1: this power outage has been truly bizarre, including the stat

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Speaker 1: that U pull in their like basically their their production

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Speaker 1: runs wise in the last like, I don't know, eight

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Speaker 1: nine games, it's been just absolutely gross.

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Speaker 2: If I told you, Brad that on May fifth, Austin Riley,

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Speaker 2: Ronald A Cunya Junior and Matt Olsen had eight combined

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Speaker 2: home runs and it played basically every inning of every game,

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Speaker 2: what would you have said? And maybe that's rhetorical, because

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone would have ever expected that to

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Speaker 2: be a reality between this trio that hit what one

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five home runs a year ago. Eight

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Speaker 2: home runs, man, that's unfathomable for this trio. You know,

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Speaker 2: Marcelo Zuna was fantastic early on, and he hasn't been

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Speaker 2: horrible by any means the last week or so, but

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Speaker 2: he's cooled down. But yeah, he's cooled off, you know.

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Speaker 2: Sean Murphy being injured. I feel like we're feeling the

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Speaker 2: effects of that. With no no disrespect to Chadwick Trump,

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Speaker 2: who seems like a good dude, but I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: just not a He should not be playing. I know

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Speaker 2: that Travis Darnault cannot catch every single game at his age,

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Speaker 2: and that's fine, but you know, there it is felt

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Speaker 2: whenever Chadwick Trump is out there. It has felt Darnault,

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Speaker 2: even he turned into Babe Ruth for those three games

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Speaker 2: where he was unbelievable. But other than that, d'arnault has

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Speaker 2: been pretty bad. Michael Harris is kind of quietly in

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Speaker 2: a funk. He's somebody who I mean, don't look at

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Speaker 2: Michael Harris's swing rates. The guy is swinging at everything

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Speaker 2: within a foot of the plate, which is a real bummer.

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Speaker 2: I was hoping he was going to take the next

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Speaker 2: step offensively, and he still could. It's very early, it's

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Speaker 2: the first week of May. Michael Harris has not been great.

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Speaker 2: Orlando Arcia has cooled. I mean, really one through nine,

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Speaker 2: it has just been tough to find players who are

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Speaker 2: putting together good games consecutively. And again, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to be repetitive. I think eventually this team is going

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Speaker 2: to wake up. Hopefully it is sooner rather than later,

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Speaker 2: because it is downright hard to watch the team swing

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Speaker 2: the bats right now. A lot of non competitive at bats,

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Speaker 2: a lot of two counts because they're seemingly swinging at everything,

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Speaker 2: a lot of ground balls, which is not a good

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Speaker 2: thing offensively. In the year twenty twenty four. It's just

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Speaker 2: been a weird ride. And man, I hope they figure

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Speaker 2: it out, Brad, because I don't want to have to

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Speaker 2: keep doing podcast where it's like, well, maybe this is

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Speaker 2: the next series. The Braves are gonna figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're in agreement there. You know. They're they're top

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Speaker 1: five in the bad way in strikeouts in the last

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Speaker 1: week or two. That's not where you want to be,

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Speaker 1: even if strike us are not always negatively correlated. There's

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Speaker 1: a whole debate there that we will not do today.

647
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Speaker 1: But they have been swinging freely. As you said, you

648
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: can find some little rays of hope. Even Michael Harris,

649
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: you mentioned a second ago hit to hit the ball hard.

650
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: I think three times today had one hundred plus miles

651
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: parer ex velocity likes he's he's always keying the ball

652
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: up a little bit, but This is a couple of

653
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: crazy stats here this week. So the two series six

654
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: games in which they want one in five, the team

655
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: had a four sixty two OPS not on base, that's OPS.

656
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: This week. Only two guys on the roster had an

657
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: OPS over five O three this week, and it was

658
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: Ronald and Austin. And those two guys, while they were

659
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: fine this week, were not like themselves. Even like Ronnie's

660
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: OPS was like like eight hundred or so, same range

661
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: for that's like human for them. So basically, no one

662
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: was good in Capitol letters this week. It's not a

663
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: huge prize given that they scored as few runs they

664
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: did they lost by his games, but it truly is gross.

665
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: I'll say this, now we've talked around it, I still

666
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: believe that people are generally overreacting, and it's also understandable.

667
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm not picking on anybody for doing this. I think

668
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: that for me, I'm always gonna lean on sample size

669
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: and the record of these players. And it's not like

670
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: it's a hugely different roster. We we said earlier, but

671
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: this is basically the same exact team that was the

672
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: best offense arguably ever last year. But even if you

673
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: don't think that top five, top ten of all time

674
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: last season by the numbers. I don't believe that they're

675
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: suddenly not good on offense. It's just not believable to me.

676
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: And I think that generally speaking, baseball fans get in this,

677
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: especially if things clump together, people tend to overreact. Like

678
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: I saw some truly I'm not gonna even say something.

679
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: I saw some truly hilarious overreactions, you know, manager stuff, hitting,

680
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: coach stuff, bench show, and so I get it. Everybody's

681
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: frustrated and it has been bad. We just laid it

682
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: out in deep detail how bad it has been. But

683
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: it is, uh, it's it's not great. So anyway it's

684
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: gonna be, uh what it is. I would lean on

685
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: a couple of positive stats, like they're currently still after

686
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: this again this includes this downturn. They are still leading

687
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: baseball in hard hit rate and exit velocity for the

688
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: season even with this entire like power outage the last

689
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: two weeks plus. So, like, I have faith it's gonna

690
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: be a good offense. It hasn't been recently. It is maddening.

691
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: Usually this team has somebody or buddies hot at the

692
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: same time as some guys have slumps. Like slumps are

693
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Usually there's they're counteracting, and right now they've

694
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: timed it unfortunately, where nobody's hot at this point. So

695
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: I've said a lot of words, Scott, but put me

696
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: on the record as not being worried. I'm not picking

697
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: on buddy that is worried. I get it, But I

698
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: do think that generally, if you take it just a

699
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: half step back, a couple deep breaths, and realize what

700
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: this team is as far as personnel, there's just no

701
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: reason to believe they're suddenly not great on offense.

702
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's the first week of May. All the

703
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: games count the same at the end of the year,

704
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: right A win on May fifth counts the same as

705
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: a win on September twenty fifth. But I guess if

706
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: you're looking for the silver lining and the glimmer of hope,

707
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: it is still relatively early in the year. I would

708
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: rather have the offense in a funk in April and May,

709
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: and in September and going into October. So I would

710
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: agree wholeheartedly with everything you said. It is very frustrating

711
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: to watch. You just have to think that better days

712
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: are on the horizon and hopefully that starts this week

713
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: when they play the Red Sox and then the Mets.

714
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have one more stat before we look ahead

715
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: to the next week, and also a little bit of

716
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: news and notes. But the Braves, of course have won

717
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: the division six years in a row. Everyone knows that.

718
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: I think it's part listen to this podcast. This is

719
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: the seventh year. But this is the second best record

720
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: through thirty two games the Braves have had in that run.

721
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: They're twenty and twelve. They won the division the first

722
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: five times in a row without winning twenty at their

723
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: first thirty two games, so I know it's once loss.

724
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,239
Speaker 1: Don't don't always tell the whole picture. Obviously that's all

725
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: that matters in the end, But predictive wise, I get it.

726
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: But like, twenty and twelve through thirty two games is

727
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: a very solid place to be.

728
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great stat. Say, I think you could

729
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: probably repeat it five times? Can we in bed? Can

730
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: we clip that little ten second clip and just retweet

731
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: it like every hour for folks. I know it's frustrating,

732
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: it's part of being a fan. I know everybody is

733
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: ready to jump off the nearest bridge. It has been

734
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: a frustrating week to listen.

735
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: I mean, if people could see our internal hand'd territory

736
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: text thread, we're all fro. I mean everybody's frustrating. Yeah,

737
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: even us, even us, we're all frustrated. It's like it's anybody.

738
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: I just I guess, I'm I don't know. I just

739
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: want to be the voice of reason. It's like I'm

740
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: drawn to be the voice of reason, even if people

741
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: don't like I get it's the same when I cover

742
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: the Hawks two and anytime they struggle, Scott, You'll be

743
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: shocked to know that I am the one pointing out like, hey,

744
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: this didn't this actually isn't that bad, and everyone else

745
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: at me. It's just kind of my role in life.

746
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: It's fine.

747
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: A little nuance never hurt anybody. Let's you know what, man,

748
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: it's understandable. I know that I saw similar things. Oh

749
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: it's time to fire. It's time to fire the whole

750
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: coaching staff. And Brian Stetger doesn't care. And also, no,

751
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: that's silly. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. It is

752
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: early in the year. The braves are going to figure

753
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: it out. If we're still having this conversation in a

754
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, then maybe you and I get on

755
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: here and start, you know, screaming to the clouds and

756
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: and really get some frustration going. But let's hope that

757
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: this time in a week when we're talking, the Braves

758
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: have had a better week ahead and get back on track,

759
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: because there's just there's just too much here to continue

760
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: to slump the way they have. Maybe it's mechanical things,

761
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: maybe the team is just kind of complacent. I don't know.

762
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: It's a long year. It's one hundred and sixty two.

763
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 2: They just did seven days on the West coast. Let's

764
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: hope getting back home will help him settle in a

765
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: little bit and get back to hitting, especially for power, right, Like,

766
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: that's my main thing in the year twenty twenty four.

767
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: With how hard pitchers throw and all of that, it's

768
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: really difficult to string together four or five singles or

769
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: doubles in an inning to put up a crooked number

770
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: that the home run is the old equalizer. It's that

771
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: number in the postseason where the team who has out

772
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 2: homered the other was like twenty four and two last

773
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 2: year at a certain point in the playoffs. It was

774
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: a crazy stat. And not that home runs are the

775
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: end all be all, but we need the Braves to

776
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: get back to elevating the ball and hitting it over

777
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: the fence, because that's going to cure a lot of

778
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: the issues this team has right now.

779
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: Well said before we go out of here, some news

780
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: and notes. We referenced Pierce Johnson earlier, if anybody missed

781
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: it the newsbrook on Saturday afternoon. He is on the

782
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: aisle with elbow information, which is not what you want

783
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: for a pitcher. He had not pitched since Monday. I

784
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: know our co host Stevens Robert was kind of ahead

785
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: of this a little bit, wondering aloud on Twitter about

786
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: why they weren't using Johnson because they had three games

787
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: in a row that were super close that he did

788
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: not pitch in, and usually he would have pitched there.

789
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: He's a high strikeout guy, very talented arm, and I

790
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: think Stephen kind of was hoping for better, but certainly

791
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: was expecting kind of the worst, and the worst is

792
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: an injury here. As of will Well recording this podcast

793
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: on Sunday, that's all we know is elbow information. We

794
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: hopefully it's not as bad as it could be. Doesn't

795
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: seem to be terribly worst case scenario given all the

796
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: quotes that I've seen, but it's definitely a loss. He's

797
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: been good this year. They do have a little bit

798
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: of depth. They brought up Jackson Stevens. That's a guy

799
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: that we've kind of liked in the past, but kind

800
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: to be kind of Jackson, Kris Shawnson is better. So

801
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: that is a loss.

802
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: It is a real loss because you look at the

803
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: bullpen right now and if you know that Ryce sell

804
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: Iglesias is locked into that ninth inning and not pitching

805
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: anywhere else from the right handed side, things are not

806
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: great to be blunt, and we're going to talk about

807
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: a possible roster move the Braves could make year, but

808
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 2: Iglesias in the ninth Joe Jimenez has been fantastic this year.

809
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: That's one right handed arm, and after that, who do

810
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: you have. I love Jesse Chavez, but he is not

811
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: a power arm. He needs soft contact. He needs to

812
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: throw strikes right like he is not Pierce Johnson you

813
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: just talked about. Jackson Stevens has obvious limitations. I think

814
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: he's fine, is like the eighth guy in your bullpen

815
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 2: to cover multiple innings, but he is not a power arm.

816
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: And that's it.

817
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: From the right side. The other four are all lefties,

818
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: and usually I think the Braves need to make a

819
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: move to add another power right handed arm to this bullpen,

820
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 2: and thankfully they do have one waiting in the wings

821
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: in Gwinnet.

822
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, so when that news broke, the Braves were pretty

823
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: quick to Stevens was actually not on the forty men.

824
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: They had defayed him. We talked about that over the winner,

825
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: but they brought him back. I saw calls I'm sure

826
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: you did too, that they could have or maybe should

827
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: have added Ken Giles, who ticking quite a route to

828
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: this point, but he was in camp with the Braves

829
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: this spring. Former closer, former top end closer, honestly, but

830
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: it's been a long long time. He's been on the

831
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: margins recently, but has looked good to this point, and

832
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: he would fit the power arm that you were talking

833
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: about right there. We'll see if they go that route

834
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: there is. They also made a trade this week that

835
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: was a small trade for sure. They landed Jimmy Hergett

836
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: from the Angels for cash considerations. Not a huge power

837
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: guy either. He actually is kind of a soft drawer,

838
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: but gets good movement and doesn't walk guys like He's

839
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: kind of more similar to the guys you reference that

840
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: are not power arms. So he's not as old as

841
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: Jesse Chava as he's thirty, but he was quite good

842
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: at twenty twenty two. But a guy that was available

843
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: for cash considerations on what was it like May third,

844
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: May fourth, So not the most high profi arm in

845
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: the world. We'll see what they do there. They like Stevens.

846
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: We like Stevens is like a plug and play guy

847
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 1: that you reference. But they do have some names kicking

848
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: around between herget between ray Kerr, who they proactively went

849
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: out and got this winner and Giles like. There's some

850
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: movements to be had there and as always, bullpens just

851
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: turn over during the season. We're hoping that Pere Johnson's

852
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: back in two weeks, but if he's not, they're gonna

853
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: have to sort of dig deep.

854
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: Maybe by the time that people listen to this podcast,

855
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 2: a roster move has already been made. But I would

856
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 2: not be surprised in the least if the Braves put

857
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 2: Matt Sick excuse me, Tyler Matsik on the injured list

858
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: and brought up one of those fresh arms.

859
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Speaker 1: From or by the way, they could they could also

860
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Speaker 1: option Elder because this week is not gonna gonna need

861
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Speaker 1: him like that. They could actually just turn Elder spot

862
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: into a reliever or both could be, could be one

863
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: of the other, could be. But like we talked about

864
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: Elder earlier, they're not needing him. There's no reason to

865
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Speaker 1: carry Elder for two weeks if he's not going to pitch,

866
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Speaker 1: so use that spot on somebody else.

867
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there are options. I would be in favor

868
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Speaker 2: of bringing up Ken Giles, a right handed arm. I

869
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Speaker 2: don't think they need another lefty in the bullpen, especially

870
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Speaker 2: with how good aj Mintor is and both Dylan Lee

871
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: and Aaron Bummer have been pretty solid lately. So we'll

872
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Speaker 2: we'll see what the Braves do. The bullpen has been

873
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: fine overall, I think through the first five weeks of

874
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Speaker 2: the year. Maybe not lights out perfect, but most bullpens

875
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: are not perfect. But we'll see in the next forty

876
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Speaker 2: eight hours or so if the Braves make a move,

877
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Speaker 2: I would not be surprised to see. And as you

878
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Speaker 2: just alluded to bullpen's turn over a lot, there's a

879
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: lot of movement happening. It's not going to be the

880
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Speaker 2: first or the last time this bullpen shifts around a

881
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: little bit. And let's hope that Pierce Johnson's elbow is okay,

882
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: because if he has to miss significant time, that would

883
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Speaker 2: be a definitive loss.

884
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Speaker 1: For the bullpen.

885
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: He is very, very good, very capable with that curveball

886
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 2: in that mid nineties fastball. So let's hope that Peerce

887
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: is fine. He has said all the right things so far.

888
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like it's a real concern. But anytime

889
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Speaker 2: you talk about a little bit of soreness and an elbow,

890
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: I think everybody has to hold their breath and just

891
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Speaker 2: kind of hope for the best.

892
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: Strongly agree. Speaking of injury stuff, Sean Murphy hit off

893
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: off a tee twice this week. Seems to be foreshadowing

894
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: some ramp up for him. We don't have a timeline,

895
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: just something to note there as he's been missed. Of course,

896
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 1: you referenced earlier in the accurate fashion about the drop

897
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: off there from Murphy to Trump is the Grand Canyon essentially,

898
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: as far as the plate is concerned. Anyway, that's it

899
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Speaker 1: for the news and notes. Briefly, look ahead to a

900
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: very light week. So the Braves just spent this whole

901
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: week on the West Coast. It's travel and all that stuff.

902
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: They only have five games between now and the end

903
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: of Sunday. In fact, it's only there. They only have

904
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: two of these weeks all year long where they have

905
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: only five games. One of them is it's September, so

906
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: this is the only time for a long while the

907
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: Braves have a five game week. They played twice at

908
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: home against Boston on Tuesday and Wednesday. Then they have

909
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: Thursday off and they play the Mets on the road.

910
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: So two off days in four days. Maybe not the

911
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: worst thing in the world right now with how things

912
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: are going, travel plus just getting your mind right. And

913
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: you know, while Boston and you know, the Mets are

914
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: the Mets, but Boston is not a team that you

915
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: super just take lightly. They are above five hundred this year.

916
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: They have a nice one differential. That's a good baseball team.

917
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: But it would be nice to sort of get right

918
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: at home in a mini series. Yeah, and surprisingly and

919
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: kind of out of nowhere, the Red Sox pitching staff

920
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: has been fantastic this season, which is very unbranded on

921
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: theme for what the Braves have seen recently. Of course, Cleveland, Seattle,

922
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, all those Seattle staff. By the way, there

923
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: was a satur think in rounds yesterday where I think

924
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: it was the Mariners have twenty consecutive starts where their

925
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: starting pitcher has allowed two runs. Reviewer like, it's an

926
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: absolutely unbelievable I'm trying to find as we're talking, but

927
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: it is literally the crazy thing cover I've ever seen. Yeah.

928
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: I was like, that's insane, and granted I was not.

929
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: I almost quote tweeted it and I was talking about, hey,

930
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: brace fans, don't panic too much, and then I realized

931
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: I get yelled at, so I didn't, but it was

932
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: one of those things where I was like, wow, that

933
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: kind of tells you, like what they've been facing recently.

934
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Speaker 1: Again nugs. Yeah, I'm looking at it now. Uh okay, No,

935
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: it's actually better than I thought. So accorna codified baseball.

936
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Speaker 1: The Mariners have in their last twenty one starts allowed

937
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: a total of twenty earn runs in twenty one starts.

938
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Speaker 1: That's a real stat.

939
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Speaker 2: Scott, Yeah, that's pretty good. We said it as much

940
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 2: in the debut episode of Hammer Territory. But the Braves

941
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: have run into some good pitching lately. If they were

942
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: really slumping here against the White Sox and the Rockies,

943
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: I think the panic bells would be a little bit louder. Yes,

944
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,959
Speaker 2: but you know, Boston good team, a team that's played

945
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: the Braves tough in recent years. Kind of a weird schedule.

946
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: You mentioned two games at home. They have Monday and

947
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: Thursday off, so hopefully that's a chance for the Braves

948
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: to just kind of mentally reset, physically reset, and then

949
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: of course a trip to the Mets this weekend. Mets

950
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: are playing fine, they're about five hundred. Anytime those two

951
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: teams get together, it's always exciting and fireworks, and yeah,

952
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 2: it should be a good week ahead, even if only

953
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: five games. I do like the five game weeks in

954
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: September because they think staying fresh that time of year

955
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: is really important. I don't love it in May, but

956
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: I guess the schedule is what the schedule is.

957
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: Yes, the schedule was, the schedule is, and it'll be

958
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: lowe el. As of right now, the Brads are listing

959
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: Lopez and Sale on Tuesday and Wednesday, and then that

960
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: is listed as a TBD over the weekend, so as discussed,

961
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: they could skip one or more guys, especially Elder, and

962
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: maybe make a move there. We will see by work

963
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: on this podcast on Sunday evening. That's what we know

964
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: right now.

965
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: You think Chris Sale is going to be a little

966
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: fired up to face his old team.

967
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: I do think that he probably will be fired up,

968
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: and he's been quite good this season, so that'll be

969
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: a nice little showdown on That's the Wednesday game, and

970
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: Tuesday is Cutter Crawford against rynald A Lopez and a

971
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: Battle guys who've been very good this season on both sides.

972
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: That will do for us today on this Sunday. Some

973
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: programming notes here at the end of the podcast. Again,

974
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us on Hammer Territory Podcast. We're

975
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: going to be here probably like four times a week

976
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: between Scott and I as well as Steven Tolbert and

977
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979
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: Sundays as we usually work because usually of Scott and

980
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: I we're talking once a week. We are on the

981
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: schedule to be talking more than once a week this

982
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: time around. So maybe a little bit shorter story today

983
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: because there was a lot to talk about, but keep

984
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986
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Speaker 1: covering the entire world of baseball beyond the Braves, including

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Speaker 1: the Braves, et cetera. Scott anything to plug at the

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Speaker 1: end of the podcast.

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Speaker 2: No, As we talked about at the beginning of the show, again,

991
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Speaker 2: thank you from the bottom of our hearts for all

992
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Speaker 2: of the support and help getting the show off the ground.

993
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Speaker 2: I was in amazement all of the reviews that were left,

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Speaker 2: which helps us out tremendously. People reaching out saying they

995
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Speaker 2: were so excited to have the show back. It really

996
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: does mean the world to us, and we were happy

997
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: to be back. It was a sad month away. I

998
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: think I can speak for Brad. I was getting the

999
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Speaker 2: itch to get behind a microphone again and talk some

1000
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: braves Baseball's very good to be back, even if it

1001
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Speaker 2: was not the friendliest of.

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Speaker 1: Weeks to the Braves.

1003
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Speaker 2: But as Brad said, we will have a lot of

1004
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: great shows coming up this week with myself and Brad,

1005
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 2: Stephen and Sean will be back at Believe on Tuesday

1006
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: night and Wednesday morning for your commute. It's a lot

1007
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: of good stuff coming here at Hammer territory and we'll

1008
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Speaker 2: be back with you soon.

1009
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Speaker 1: Thanks for being here, Scott, Thanks for everybody for listening again.

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