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Speaker 1: Here's Brian no, Rich Hornberger and Jared Smith.

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Speaker 3: Oh what is going on? Everybody?

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Speaker 4: I hope you're a Saturday is off to a pleasant start.

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Speaker 4: Good morning fellows, Good morning Rich, Good morning Jared.

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Speaker 3: Everything good over there? Good thumbs up the pony Crawl.

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Speaker 4: After all, you guys survived that ordeal the pony Crawl. Yes,

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Speaker 4: survived the pony Crawl. For those that don't know, who's

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Speaker 4: the inaugural twenty twenty five pony Crawl? The me and

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Speaker 4: my girlfriend. So we play this game. It's, uh, what's

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Speaker 4: it called, Jared? Do you play this thing? It's like Derby.

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Speaker 5: Deluxe, Yeah, Sigma something, Derby Derby.

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Speaker 3: I think it's Derby.

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Speaker 4: Deluxe is what it is? Is this big I don't

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Speaker 4: know how to say it. This this game. So it's

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Speaker 4: just fake horses run around to fake track. But you

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Speaker 4: can bet on it and so h we looked up

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Speaker 4: a list my girlfriend and I and there are, roughly,

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Speaker 4: according to this list, about twelve casinos in Vegas that

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Speaker 4: have this game. And so we're like, okay, instead of

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Speaker 4: a pub crawl right where you go from bar to

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Speaker 4: Bardi bar, we're gonna do the Pony crawl. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: hit up all these casinos and play the game at

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Speaker 4: all these random casinos. So let me tell you. We

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Speaker 4: got our steps in on Thursday. All right, I know

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Speaker 4: almost every square inch of the strip by now. So

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Speaker 4: we were all over the place and we went to

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Speaker 4: let's see, like seven different casino they didn't have it.

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Speaker 4: They had this faulty list all right, seventyse casinos on

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Speaker 4: the list did not have Derby Deluxe.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, fake news. Yeah, but did you should put

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Speaker 3: out the list to help people?

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Speaker 6: Did you?

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Speaker 7: Did you start like after like two in a row

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Speaker 7: where they were like, nah, we don't got Pony Deluxe.

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Speaker 7: Did you start asking pit bosses as soon as you

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Speaker 7: walk into casinos?

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Speaker 4: No, it's funny because uh, you know men in asking

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Speaker 4: for directions, I don't know, like right, like we have

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Speaker 4: asking and that's kind of what I did. Now here's

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Speaker 4: the thing. I'm not opposed to asking for directions or

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Speaker 4: be available for that to happen, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And there you walk into a casino and depending on

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Speaker 4: the time, they're busy, they got stuff to do. And

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not gonna bother that. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 4: bother the blackjack blackjack dealer if if they know if

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Speaker 4: they have the ponies or not, like the electronic ponies.

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Speaker 3: So I walk around the entire.

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Speaker 4: Casino like, you know, looking like I need a fix,

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Speaker 4: like it was around here. I'm scratching my neck. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's it's the whole thing. But we went to gosh,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I have the list in front of me,

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Speaker 4: at least six or seven various casinos we played, and

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Speaker 4: you know, up down, up down. I ended up down

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Speaker 4: for the experience. But hey, listen, it was fun. It

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Speaker 4: was the first inaugural pony crawl. We crossed it off

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Speaker 4: the list oud of you, Bud, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Audi, you gambling deserves traditions like this. A lot of

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Speaker 5: times gambling gets oh you know, it's just these people

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Speaker 5: there's like a lot of tradition to betting where you

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Speaker 5: start traditions like this and you have a family, right,

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Speaker 5: it's it's it's great.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I think it's a really fun thing.

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Speaker 4: I put out a video and one of my friends

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Speaker 4: he commented on it, and I thought it was hilarious.

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Speaker 4: Should get the exact quote. I could, I could try

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Speaker 4: something to the effect of, oh, Brian, I'm jealous. I

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Speaker 4: Every time I'm in Vegas, my wife is like, can

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Speaker 6: Wow?

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Speaker 4: And he's like, no, this is it. We're just playing

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Speaker 4: this game the Electronic Ponies. So yeah, some people are

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Speaker 5: So the Sigma Derby game, that's the one that's at

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Speaker 3: That's the original one.

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Speaker 5: That's fun og game, and people will literally come far

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, no, kid, Yeah, we played that too.

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Speaker 7: I was thinking that you were going into these casinos

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Speaker 7: sports books and you were literally I was like, I

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Speaker 7: thought she was all random off track bidding from around

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Speaker 7: the world, like because at some of these hours, I'm like,

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Speaker 7: he's still finding racist to bet on the races in

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Speaker 7: Lithuania around now.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, it's just your own.

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Speaker 4: If you've ever seen like the individual like bubble craps,

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Speaker 4: that's what our goat, Rackenberger calls him. You know, like

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Speaker 4: the the craps where you have your own little bin

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Speaker 4: to yourself, it's bubble ponal er concept. Yeah, it's kind

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Speaker 4: of like bubble ponies or you remember the the old

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Speaker 4: like ice hockey game is kind of like yeah, yep, yep, yep.

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Speaker 4: What am I looking for with soccer? What's that called

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Speaker 4: people have played the amazing games. It's kind of like

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Speaker 4: the same idea with the electronic ponies. But what Jared's

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Speaker 5: The OgH that is, people come from far and line

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Speaker 4: It is so primitive, man, like these you gotta see.

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Speaker 4: I took a couple of videos, but these horses they

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Speaker 5: Really gambling at its purest form because there's no strategy.

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Speaker 3: You just you know, it's not like you have numbers

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Speaker 5: Good speed numbers today we wish bet on this one,

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Speaker 5: You're just dumping quarters like it's like slot machines, but

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Speaker 3: It's fun too. The horses.

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Speaker 4: You got to see these fake ponies where they're just

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Speaker 4: I go that crazy, Yeah, but at some point, man,

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Speaker 4: So we got the debut of Cooper Flag in Summer League.

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Speaker 4: He went against Brownie James's Lakers. We'll have a little

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Speaker 4: so I didn't see most of this debut from Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 4: summer league game, but Rich, you can talk about this

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Speaker 3: And that's just a hurdle.

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Speaker 4: I think that Cooper Flag's gonna have to jump over

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Speaker 7: I don't think, yeah, these are early struggles. Anybody who's

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Speaker 7: it either doesn't watch basketball, is lying or they're trying

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Speaker 7: the reason why you would try. Nobody is going to make,

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Speaker 7: But what I can say is he did do a

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Speaker 6: You know, it was a really.

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Speaker 7: Wonky shooting day night for Cooper, and he said that himself.

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Speaker 7: As a matter of fact, he called it the worst

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Speaker 7: He's played basketball obviously throughout his life, but he's played

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Speaker 6: He's a teenager.

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Speaker 7: So I mean, it wouldn't be too hard to have

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Speaker 6: Being five of twenty one from the floor.

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Speaker 7: Here's the thing, though, his coach said something that was

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Speaker 7: absolutely true because I think what is it might have

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Speaker 7: Even though he was having a bad night, he knew

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Speaker 3: League debut like that will never be.

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Speaker 5: A bad shooting night, which is more of an individual

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, yeah, all right, well.

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Speaker 4: I mean, hey, that's fine. First off, let me correct myself.

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Speaker 4: You can't tell me it had nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 4: I just don't believe it. Cooper Flag is not a

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Speaker 4: This guy's always he's gonna be a bum. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: That's all.

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Speaker 3: That's all.

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Speaker 4: Now, you guys take it wherever you want, but that

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Speaker 6: I just, I mean, this is my own personal assessment.

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Speaker 6: And I don't even know if that's what you're saying.

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Speaker 7: I I Brian, you know, I mean, I don't want

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Speaker 6: Usually I like to test drive a couple, you know,

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Speaker 7: You know, I like mattress shops. You know, some people

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Speaker 6: You know. It's it's a part of my personality.

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Speaker 7: Maybe you are you trust your gut more and what

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I try.

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Speaker 5: I agreed Brian that like that was not a good

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Speaker 3: It was one shot.

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Speaker 5: He's taken a million of them in his career, and

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Speaker 3: And it was a fricking whole. What was it? There's

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Speaker 5: Or trend going around TikTok, holyf and airball like this

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm doing a terrible job because you guys are

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I let's try not That kick went straight down the middle,

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Speaker 4: Through the Imagine if he missed it, Jeter misses it

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Speaker 3: Maybe you didn't catch it. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I agree with that, but we can't be the Summer League,

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Speaker 4: Hey, coming through in any moment like that helps.

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Speaker 3: Due again?

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Speaker 8: What the game?

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Speaker 3: Great? Great?

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Speaker 4: How about don't air ball shots with they won the

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Speaker 7: Sorry, all right, well again, I think that's where you're confused,

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Speaker 7: is I I understand you're not making a bold proclamation

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Speaker 7: not think rich?

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Speaker 4: Okay, a kicker misses a game winning kick, huge kick

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Speaker 4: to get to the National championship game. Now he misses

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Speaker 4: the next kick in like I don't know, preseason, their

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Speaker 4: offseason game. You're telling me, you don't think, man, I

453
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Speaker 4: wonder if that kick had something to do. You don't

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Speaker 4: think that at all, no connection whatsoever.

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Speaker 7: Just if he pures a short field goal to win

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Speaker 5: Okay, because yeah, it's hard for a kicker, because a

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Speaker 4: All Right, So, the latest installment of the Netflix series

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Speaker 4: Quarterback is out. Season two, So We've got Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 4: featured Jared Goff and Joe Burrow and in the first episode,

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Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins talked about the Falcons selecting Michael Pennox Junior

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Speaker 4: with a number eight overall pick in last year's draft,

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Speaker 4: and he said he basically felt misled. I'm paraphrasing here,

509
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Speaker 4: and he's basically like, hey, you guys could include me

510
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Speaker 4: in on this, right If I knew about this information

511
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 4: kinda would have been helpful with me making my decision.

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Speaker 4: And at one point he was sitting there, I think

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Speaker 4: it was at his house, and they've got this big

514
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 4: like you know, like they've got swings and all this

515
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 4: stuff for little kids to play on. He and his

516
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Speaker 4: wife are just kind of chilling there and he's talking

517
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Speaker 4: to the camera and he was like he was explaining this.

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Speaker 4: He's like, look, the reason that we came to Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: We didn't want to leave Minnesota, but Minnesota was like,

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Speaker 4: this is kind of going to be a yearly thing, right,

521
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Speaker 4: this is not We're not hitching our wagon to you

522
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Speaker 4: long term basically, and so he was like, Atlanta was that,

523
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Speaker 4: like it's going to be a long term that's why

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Speaker 4: we and I'm like, oh no, Like he at that time,

525
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Speaker 4: he didn't realize what was happening, right, and so looking back,

526
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Speaker 4: he said, certainly, if I had the information around free agency,

527
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Speaker 4: it certainly would have affected my decision. I had no

528
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Speaker 4: reason to leave Minnesota with how much we loved it there.

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Speaker 4: If both teams are going to be drafting a quarterback

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Speaker 4: high Okay, So he had a great idea that Minna

531
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Speaker 4: was going to be using a top pick.

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Speaker 3: On a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: He did not know that Atlanta was going to do

534
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Speaker 4: the same thing. That's exactly what they ended up doing,

535
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Speaker 4: and so looking back, he said, he felt misled, which

536
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Speaker 4: I can totally understand you guys, I don't know, do

537
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 4: you guys feel the same way or at least see

538
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 4: kirk side of it, where you're like you can.

539
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Speaker 3: Say, hey, man, it's the business.

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Speaker 4: The way it goes you know, cold callous, Hey deal

541
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 4: with it, or you could look at it and say

542
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Speaker 4: that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I can see why you felt misled.

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Speaker 7: And I can guarantee you because I know how these

545
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 7: conversations go. That is something that either Kirk himself or

546
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Speaker 7: his agent explained in plain English to the Atlanta Falcons.

547
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 7: They said to the team, Hey, look, yeah, Kirk's real

548
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 7: upset that they're drafting a quarterback. Obviously, you know he

549
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 7: loves Minnesota. He's a loyal guy. So if he does

550
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Speaker 7: come to Atlanta, that's what you're getting. You're getting a

551
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Speaker 7: guy who's never gonna want to leave. He's gonna want

552
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Speaker 7: to pour his heart and his soul into that city.

553
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Speaker 7: But the situation is the situation. They want to get

554
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Speaker 7: younger at the position. They're looking at their next steps

555
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 7: to get younger at that position. And they've told us

556
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Speaker 7: as much, you know, and we give them credit because

557
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Speaker 7: they're letting us know what direction the franchise is heading in.

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Speaker 7: But just in terms of what we're looking for, Kirk

559
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Speaker 7: Scott good years left in that arm and we're looking

560
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Speaker 7: for a stable opportunity. That was the primary reason why

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Speaker 7: he was leaving Minnesota.

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Speaker 6: So I one hundred percent.

563
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Speaker 7: Believe Kirk when he says he felt misled because guess

564
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Speaker 7: what he was, And you can't convince me otherwise. So

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Speaker 7: I do feel bad for Kirk, But I mean, if

566
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Speaker 7: you feel bad for every player who has taken advantage

567
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Speaker 7: of by a franchise in the NFL, you would spend

568
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Speaker 7: the rest of your day pitying a bunch of you know,

569
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Speaker 7: millionaire athletes, because that's the reality these teams.

570
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 6: They look at this as a business.

571
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Speaker 7: The assets literally are the players, and so you're dealing

572
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Speaker 7: with people's lives and you're uprooting families, but they don't

573
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Speaker 7: care as long as they're getting w's, and so that's

574
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Speaker 7: what happened here, unfortunately for Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's a certain element to this where

576
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Speaker 5: we have to remove the human element, which is hard

577
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Speaker 5: to do. It really is, And I get why people

578
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Speaker 5: not only about this situation.

579
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Speaker 3: We talk more about this with quarterbacks, but I.

580
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 5: Recall this really feisty offensive lineman who you know, came

581
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Speaker 5: up through the ranks of the New England Patriots and

582
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Speaker 5: then you know, had some injury problems and you know,

583
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Speaker 5: we then went to Arizona and had some more injury problems.

584
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Speaker 3: And then had to go to San Diego.

585
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Speaker 5: So you know, and this is just a fantastic human

586
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 5: being that I get to work with every day. But

587
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Speaker 5: if at the end of the day, Rich right, like

588
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Speaker 5: I think you understood why a lot of those moves

589
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Speaker 5: went down.

590
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Speaker 3: It's a business.

591
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and I think it's it's hard it happens

592
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 5: to I can't is there a player that has existed

593
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 5: in the sport of the NFL that.

594
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Speaker 3: Has not had this happen to them at some point?

595
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 5: Even the goat Tom Brady was passed over how many

596
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 5: times in the draft and had like the ultimate chip

597
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 5: on his shoulder because nobody wanted him. Like I think actually,

598
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Speaker 5: in a weird way, these types of moments which I'm

599
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 5: sure every single professional athlete at some point in their

600
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 5: career has been pushed aside, marginalized, passed over, had decisions

601
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 5: made about their career without their consent because it is

602
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 5: a business and at the end of the day, they

603
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 5: are the asset and they are not the decision maker.

604
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Speaker 5: So it's a good story. I haven't watched the Netflix

605
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 5: documentaries yet. I'm excited to. I have not had time yet.

606
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 5: They just came out this week, I've seen some clips.

607
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 5: They all look fantastic. The clip of Burrow, GoF and

608
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 5: Cousins going through what a quarterback does in the seconds

609
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 5: leading up to the snap, I thought was awesome and

610
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 5: amazingly produced. I watched that clip last night, And this

611
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 5: type of entertainment is great for fans because we get

612
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 5: to see a glimpse of what the players think, which

613
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 5: helps me handicap, which allows me to analyze better. So

614
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 5: I think this is all great and it's great for

615
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 5: fodder and conversation, But for us to shed a tear

616
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 5: every time this happens to an NFL player, we would

617
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 5: have no tiers left to shed, Like It's just this

618
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 5: is the nature of the business. And I think other

619
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Speaker 5: than for entertainment reasons, we just have to understand it

620
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Speaker 5: and just appreciate what the NFL is, which is I

621
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 5: think the hardest frankly, I think the hardest sport to

622
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 5: stay healthy in long term and the biggest attrition sport

623
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Speaker 5: we have, Like it's the closest thing we have in

624
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 5: this current society to like gladiator nature, like Game of

625
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 5: Thrones type brutality, and I really like in a team element,

626
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 5: like I know you have seen boxing that has it too,

627
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 5: but again like a team element, like my my people

628
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 5: against your people, We're gonna final war.

629
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Speaker 3: Like and this is the this is the type of

630
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Speaker 3: stuff that happens.

631
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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I'm with you guys in terms of

632
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: there are so many NFL We'll stick with the NFL.

633
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 4: There's so many NFL players among many other professional athletes

634
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 4: who get done dirty. I mean, it happens time and

635
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 4: time and time again. But I think you have to

636
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 4: look at the dynamic of this one right where it's

637
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 4: it's just a lot different than a lot of other

638
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 4: examples where if you think of Kirk Cousins, Okay, it's

639
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 4: like he's he's built up into man Atlanta, fresh start,

640
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: long term commitment. You know, they signed him to a

641
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: one hundred million dollars guaranteed contract. Right, He's got guaranteed cash.

642
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, I'm the guy.

643
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: And then with.

644
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 4: The first pick eighth overall, they picked Michael Pennix Junior

645
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 4: as a quarterback. It's like what that would be like,

646
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Speaker 4: I don't know, like spitting game to this beautiful girl

647
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: on the street and be like, listen, you give me

648
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 4: a shot. I'm gonna make all your dreams come true.

649
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be faithful, I'm gonna take you everywhere, and

650
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Speaker 4: then he takes you to in and out Burger and

651
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Speaker 4: then cheats on you later that night. You know, like that,

652
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 4: that's what happened with Kirk Cousins to Atlanta is basically

653
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 4: so I get it. Many players have been done wrong

654
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 4: and maybe they they were they were sold on this

655
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 4: opportunity and thought it was gonna be much more than

656
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Speaker 4: it actually was. But man, when you you uproot your

657
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 4: entire family because you're sold on this is a long

658
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 4: term fresh start, and it was. It even turned into

659
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: that after one draft pick in the off season. It's

660
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: like wow, And I'm not shedding tears for Kirk. It's

661
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 4: a business and this is sometimes the way it goes.

662
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 4: But what he thought it was and what it turned

663
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 4: out to be does differ from a lot of players

664
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Speaker 4: who were done dirty in other ways.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that you're speaking about reality. Kirk Cousins

666
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 7: was misled and you know, and to go back to

667
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 7: your comparison, not only like if the Falcons have anything

668
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 7: to say about it, where they're like they try to

669
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 7: put the toothpaste back in the tube, it's like that

670
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 7: guy who cheated then trying to gaslight the situation and

671
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 7: be like, oh, I didn't even know that we were dating.

672
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 7: Wait what Like, this isn't my fault, it was your fault.

673
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 7: You didn't communicate to me that we were an item.

674
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 7: Are you kidding me? Like, if the if the Atlanta

675
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 7: Falcons try to spin this at all, it's going to

676
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 7: be that it's just gonna be gaslighting. You don't have

677
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 7: to believe it. Players get misled all the time. This

678
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 7: is the NFL. That's what happens.

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00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 3: Yep.

680
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 5: And also it's like if they took him in and

681
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 5: out burger and then the guy dropped a hundred mil

682
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 5: on the table and said, hey, I'm out, I think

683
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 5: the girl would still be Okay.

684
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good point.

685
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Speaker 4: All Right, We've got a rich Ronberger, Penn State All

686
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Speaker 4: American Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian no Hey.

687
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 4: Be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel.

688
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 4: Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see

689
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of video highlights from our shows. And

690
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 4: be sure to subscribe so you always have instant access

691
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 4: to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Coming up

692
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 4: next the parlay platter, which have one selection for you.

693
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Speaker 4: We pull it together for a greater payout, and do

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Speaker 4: I go WNBA Summer League basis.

695
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Speaker 5: Summer League because I'll be honest, huh, that's where that's

696
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 5: where the money can be made.

697
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: If you know what you're doing.

698
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 4: I've got a dose.

699
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 3: You have a story where let's go. It could go

700
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Speaker 3: the other way.

701
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 4: I'm with you, but it could go the other way

702
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: in painful fashion. Maybe that's why I'm so surly the

703
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: start off this, I don't know, but we'll compare notes

704
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 4: with's parlay platter. Coming up next, it is Fox Sports

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Speaker 4: Radios Countdown presented by bet MGM. It is Fox Sports

706
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Speaker 4: Radios Countdown presented by Bett MGM. No time to waste,

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Speaker 4: let's dive into this.

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Speaker 1: Check this out our late letter.

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00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 4: All right, we'd have one selection for you, we pull

710
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 4: it together for a greater payout shared we start with you.

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00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: What do you like?

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00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 3: I was called back and forth on this. It's not

714
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 3: a great betting card today.

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00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 5: Baseball wise, I think there's a couple of games that

716
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 5: are intriguing, and I'll give you one that was at

717
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 5: least this is the most interesting stat of the day.

718
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 5: So the Yankees went on a streak about a month

719
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 5: ago of sixteen consecutive thunders, which is.

720
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: Just crazy to me.

721
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 5: Well, since then, they've had twelve straight overs, including a

722
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 5: game last night that went over the total where the

723
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 5: Cubs didn't score, it was all Yankees runs that got

724
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 5: the game.

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00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: Over the total.

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00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 5: So weird situation today where despite the fact that the

727
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 5: Yankees have had twelve consecutive.

728
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: Overs, it's a very low total between the Cubs and the.

729
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 5: Yankees and the Bronx eight And I think the reason

730
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 5: why it's Matthew Voyd and it's Max Freed.

731
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: Obviously two good pictures. But we're gonna sell a half

732
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 3: a run here. We're gonna sell because.

733
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 5: We know we want to get these odds nice and

734
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 5: juicy for my two counterparts, so we can make this

735
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 5: parlay nice and fun for you guys. I'll go over

736
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 5: eight and a half, right, the totals eight minus one fifteen,

737
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 5: we'll go over eight and a half. We'll sell a

738
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 5: half a run even odds between the Yankees and the

739
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 5: Cubs today in the Bronx.

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00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 7: All right, Cooper Flagg had a pretty wonky debut, a

741
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 7: shaky ten points five and twenty one from Befloor. We

742
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 7: were talking about that to open the show.

743
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 6: He's facing the Spurs.

744
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 7: This is a guy who averaged over nineteen points per

745
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 7: game in college. And remember, summer League, you're not playing

746
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 7: against NBA pros who have been veterans of the league

747
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 7: and superstars for years and years and years.

748
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 6: You're playing against your peers.

749
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 7: These are guys who are cutting their teeth in this

750
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 7: league or have bounced around the G league. So I

751
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 7: think he's gonna settle in look a lot more comfortable

752
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 7: like the college superstar he was. Give me the over

753
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 7: on the eighteen and a half points.

754
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna go to the WNBA over here,

755
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna do something that kind of goes against

756
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 4: by betting DNA right now, which is laying points in

757
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 4: any WNBA day. Man, the dogs have been barking, not

758
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 4: just covering this bread, but winning outright many many games.

759
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 4: A couple of games ago, a couple of days ago,

760
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 4: we had three outright underdogs. They are underdogs of seven

761
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 4: and a half to like eighteen and a half win outright.

762
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 4: So it's been crazy in the WNBA. But the Links,

763
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 4: I think that they're gonna have their way with the

764
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: Chicago Sky. The Chicago Sky are a bad team, there

765
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: are no two ways about it. They're just bad. They're

766
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 4: banged up and bad anyway, and they don't play defense.

767
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 4: So I think the Links are gonna score quite a bit.

768
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna look to lay a big number. I'm gonna

769
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 4: lay eleven and a half points on the road. Now

770
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 4: it's ticked up to twelve and a half at MGM.

771
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 4: You could just look at the little spreads tab. Yeah,

772
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 4: and you can go in many different directions. It's actually

773
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 4: really nice if you're thinking about building a parlay. Yep,

774
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 4: I went to minus eleven and a half. It's at

775
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: minus one twenty five juice, right, so you get like

776
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 4: a twenty five cent tax. You can even go minus

777
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 4: ten and a half and it's minus one forty five.

778
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 4: It's a forty five cent tax. If you're thinking of

779
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 4: a leg for a parlay, it's not a terrible option

780
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 4: right by yourself. A couple of points that could be

781
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 4: very handy, But I'm comfortable with minus eleven and a half.

782
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: That's the leg I will go with here for the parlay.

783
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

784
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 6: I like it.

785
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 5: The numbers that I get from my WNBA people make

786
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 5: this game.

787
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: Thirteen and a half today, so I think eleven and

788
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: a half is a very fair bet.

789
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 5: Rich, the props on bet MGM and Cooper Flag is

790
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 5: at twenty plus, so if it lands nineteen, I apologize

791
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 5: in advance. But also what it does is it makes

792
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 5: the odds significantly greater. Right, Like, Cooper Flag to score

793
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 5: twenty plus is two to one.

794
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: At bet MGM.

795
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 5: Like that's just a good bet on its own. If

796
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 5: you agree with Rich's assessment that Cooper Flag is going

797
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 5: to bounce back from a bad shooting game and he's

798
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 5: gonna drop twenty tonight. I mean two to one is

799
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 5: a pretty nice nugget there. So if we pull all

800
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 5: these three together, guys, this is plus nine eighty. This

801
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 5: is a nice little parlay here. This is almost ten

802
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 5: to one. This is a nice, little, juicy little parlay.

803
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 5: This would actually be one of the bigger ones that

804
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 5: we've had since football season when we were doing the

805
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 5: you know, the underdog ones.

806
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 4: I like this, what's your leg Jared over eight and

807
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 4: a half?

808
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 3: Cubs? Cubs? I know, no, but what the payout just

809
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 3: for yours?

810
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 6: Uh?

811
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: Even os evil? Okay? Wow, got juicy? Yeah, if the

812
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: two to one really got it all right?

813
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 6: Coming up?

814
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 4: Would you take a major L for a long term? W?

815
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 6: Oh?

816
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: What is going on?

817
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 4: I hope your Saturday is going swimmingly so far. We

818
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 4: will get to would you take a major L for.

819
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 6: A long term?

820
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: W That is on the way.

821
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 4: Hey, be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio

822
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 4: YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and

823
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 4: you'll see a whole bunch of video highlights from our shows.

824
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 4: Be sure to subscribe to you always have instant access

825
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 4: to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Okay, So,

826
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 4: MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred, he's pushing for a salary cap. Okay,

827
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 4: on's a salary cap. By the way, Colorado head football

828
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 4: coach Dean Sanders he's in favor of a salary cap

829
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 4: in college football as well. So we got, you know,

830
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 4: a couple of powerful dudes in favor of salary caps.

831
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 4: We'll get to Colorado in a second, but I want

832
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 4: to focus in on MLB for a second. Okay, So

833
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 4: there's a buddy of mine. This guy's name is Nate Brown. So,

834
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: Nate hosts a show for a Fox Sports radio affiliate

835
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 4: in South Dakota, and so from time to time show.

836
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 3: By the way, he's fan plastic.

837
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's great, But Nate will will have me on

838
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 4: from time to time. And he threw a question my

839
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 4: way that I thought was fantastic. Now I could steal

840
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 4: it and pass it off as my own, but I

841
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 4: can't do Nate Brown like that.

842
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 3: That's that's not right. But we love you South Dakota.

843
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: That's right, Nate said to me.

844
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 4: He was like, if you're Rob Manfred, there's talk of

845
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 4: a lockout for maybe an entire season. If you had

846
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 4: to choose one of two things, you have baseball the

847
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 4: way it is right now, no salary cap. You know,

848
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 4: the spenders spend that, the non spenders don't spend, right,

849
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 4: that's the way it goes. You have the haves and

850
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 4: the have nots. Would you just keep it the way

851
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 4: it is? That's choice number one? Or choice number two

852
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 4: is you sacrifice an entire season that is a major,

853
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 4: major l but you're able to implement a salary cap.

854
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: Would you do that?

855
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 4: And I said, man, I hate hate any lockout. It's horrible.

856
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 4: It's lose, lose almost all across the board. Because you're

857
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 4: planning the seed for all of your fans. The diehard fans,

858
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 4: the casual fans especially. Hey, life goes on without major

859
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 4: League Baseball. You know, life doesn't just stop. So you

860
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 4: get into routines. You have things that you do that

861
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 4: you might continue doing when baseball comes around again. So

862
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 4: you lose a ton when you have a lockout. But

863
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 4: if it's to implement a salary cap, I think MLB

864
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 4: desperately desperately needs it, and I point to the NFL.

865
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 4: The NFL's not so secret sauce is parody. You can

866
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 4: sell hope legitimately to almost every fan where maybe they're

867
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 4: not gonna win a Super Bowl, but they could be

868
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 4: significantly better than they were the previous season. You can

869
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 4: sell that hope because it happens time and time again.

870
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 4: You can't do that in baseball. And you have one

871
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty two games. If you're hoping for a

872
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 4: championship and you're an A's fan, it's like why are

873
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 4: you are you watching games?

874
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 3: You know?

875
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 4: So, if you're able to implement a salary cap, I

876
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 4: would do it. Now that's a little radical. What would

877
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 4: you guys do? Would you sacrifice the season? If that's

878
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 4: what it took in MLB to have a salary cap

879
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 4: going forward.

880
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 7: You know what, I've flip flopped on my position on

881
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 7: this topic because I used to say things like, look,

882
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 7: I'm never in favor of a salary cap because that

883
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 7: limits the amount of money that a player can make

884
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 7: in this dynamic, and the ownership always has more power

885
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 7: than the player. So let's just see what fair market

886
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 7: value dictates for the player. However, I see it from

887
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 7: the fans standpoint that you need parody and blah blah

888
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 7: blah blah blah. And I'm not saying that your point

889
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 7: isn't heard because Brian I agreed with that point for

890
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 7: a while until I actually started doing the research.

891
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 6: That is most.

892
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 7: Important to me is their variety in the playoffs. Well,

893
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 7: in Major League Baseball there is is there variety in

894
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 7: terms of who's winning the World Series.

895
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 6: There is.

896
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 7: Baseball's problems aren't parody. Baseball's problems are a dilution of urgency.

897
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 7: They play one hundred and sixty two games. That's too many.

898
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 7: The regular season sucks because it's a snooze, because it

899
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 7: takes forever, because the game don't matter, the reason why

900
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 7: the NFL works isn't because of parody. Because BA has parody,

901
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 7: and the NBA has parody as well. The NFL works

902
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 7: is because there's an eighteen game schedule instead of, excuse me,

903
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 7: a seventeen game schedule soon to be eighteen, which by

904
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 7: the way, could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

905
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 6: We'll see.

906
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 7: But there is a seventeen game schedule as opposed to

907
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 7: an eighty two games schedule in the NBA and one

908
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 7: hundred and sixty two games in baseball. That's too many

909
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 7: because you see variety at the top of these leagues.

910
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 7: In the postseason every year, it's a new cluster of teams.

911
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 7: You don't see the team spending the most money always

912
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 7: winning the championship. Case in point, you have OKC winning

913
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 7: one of the smaller markets in the NBA. I look

914
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 7: at a salary cap and I say to myself with

915
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 7: Major League Baseball, I say, why would I want to

916
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 7: put the golden handcuffs on these athletes? And that doesn't

917
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 7: solve baseball's most glaring issue. Bob Manfred is running a

918
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 7: smoke screen. He's trying to save the owners money, he's

919
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 7: trying to make more money for the league, and he's

920
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 7: not addressing the issue, which is Baseball plays way too

921
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 7: many games, and they've completely.

922
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 6: Diluted their product.

923
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 7: Baseball was at its best during the pandemic when they

924
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,479
Speaker 7: played a sprint of a season. It was the most

925
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 7: exciting season of my life, hands down, bar none, because

926
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 7: finally it felt urgent.

927
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 6: Baseball's problem is a lack of urgency.

928
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a tough argument. I think to Rich's point,

929
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 5: Manfred works for the owners. The owners are probably sick

930
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 5: of spending money, or at least the high grossing teams

931
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 5: that spend the most money. You are probably like, Man,

932
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 5: I wish we could really cap this thing, Rob. It'd

933
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 5: be great if we can kind of figure out some

934
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 5: kind of system to work at. But I think to

935
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 5: jump it and say this sal inconsistency is the reason

936
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 5: why we don't have parody is false.

937
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 3: There's a salary gap in the NBA.

938
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 5: In the last I think it's how many years, four years, right?

939
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 5: Four different champions in the NBA, seven different four different

940
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 5: NBA champions, seven different league champions. Twenty five out of

941
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 5: the thirty teams made a bigger postseason Major League Baseball,

942
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 5: four different champions, seven different league champions, twenty three out

943
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 5: of thirty teams made a smaller postseason. I mean, one

944
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 5: has a salary cap, same amount of teams, same amount

945
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 5: of champions. A couple of extra teams made the playoffs

946
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 5: in a bigger postseason. And I know it's a small

947
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 5: sample four years, but to say that there's not parody

948
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 5: again in baseball in the last four years, twenty three

949
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 5: out of the thirty teams.

950
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 3: Made the playoffs. In the NBA, where there's.

951
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 5: A salary cap, twenty five out of the thirty teams

952
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 5: made the playoffs. That same for your stretch. We have

953
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 5: teams like the Brewers, We have teams like the Rays.

954
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 5: We have teams like the Orioles that have won significant games.

955
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 5: Low market, you know, small market, small, small payroll teams.

956
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 5: I think it's more about following the money in this situation,

957
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 5: which is Manford works for the owners, and the owners

958
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 5: probably are sick of paying these absurd contracts. I think

959
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 5: that is the source of this Manford co Halds been

960
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 5: it however he wants. He is a politician in the

961
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 5: sense of the term. I think every commissioner is a politician.

962
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 5: I don't think it is fair to connect the dots

963
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 5: and say the reason why baseball doesn't.

964
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 3: Have parody is because there is no salary cap.

965
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 5: Just tell us the truth, Rob, you want a salary

966
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 5: cap in baseball because the owners are up here, took

967
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 5: us about it, and it's gonna make your life easier.

968
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 5: So no, I wouldn't Rob. I wouldn't cut off my

969
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 5: nose despite my face. I would not take the one

970
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 5: year hit for a salary cap because I think people

971
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 5: care and I think you will become more relevant if

972
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 5: you just take the year off.

973
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 3: We live in an instant gratification society.

974
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,959
Speaker 5: And maybe when they come back, it'll be exciting again

975
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 5: and they'll get some buzz back.

976
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 3: But they'll take a hit. I don't know how big

977
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 3: of a hit.

978
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 5: I don't think anyone could accurately tell you how big

979
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 5: of a hit they'll take if they just say, screw you, guys,

980
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 5: lock out.

981
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 3: But they will take a hit.

982
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be a huge hit. I don't want to

983
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 4: undersell that because that's a monstrous hit. But look, man,

984
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 4: parody is how you look at it. I mean, you

985
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 4: could look at it one way and lay it out

986
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 4: like you did Jared, and hey, we've got different champions

987
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 4: in this short sample size. And that's there's an argument

988
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 4: there no doubt I would look at it where it's like, Okay,

989
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 4: even though we have some different champions we have the

990
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 4: have nots clearly, you know what I mean. Like if

991
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 4: you look at the NFL, for instance, look at the

992
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 4: Washington Commanders. So two years ago they were a four

993
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 4: win team, they were four and thirteen, and last season

994
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 4: they made it to the NFC Championship Game after winning

995
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 4: twelve games. They went from four wins to twelve wins

996
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 4: to a couple of playoff wins and an NFC title

997
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,959
Speaker 4: game birth, Like.

998
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 3: What's the baseball example of that.

999
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 4: You're not gonna find that with no salary cap, like

1000
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 4: the have notts consistently stay havenots, you know, and a

1001
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,959
Speaker 4: lot of that is their fault. But when you're going

1002
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 4: up against the halves, that has a lot to do

1003
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 4: with it as well. So you could look at parody

1004
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 4: and just look at the bottom dwellers, you know, look

1005
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 4: at the bottom feeders where man they Colorado Rocky's been

1006
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 4: bottom feeders for quite a while, the Pirates been bottom

1007
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 4: feeders for quite a while, so on and so forth.

1008
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 4: So that's the other part of it. The league, the

1009
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 4: NFL pushes all these teams toward the middle. Baseball does

1010
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 4: not do that. If you're on the high end, you're

1011
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 4: probably gonna stay in that area. If you're in the

1012
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 4: low end, call the sack. Guess what, that's where you live,

1013
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 4: right And I think a salary cap would do a

1014
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 4: lot to change that. And look, they're not going to

1015
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 4: trim games. We all know that. But even if they

1016
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 4: did name the number, they trim it back to one forty,

1017
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 4: they trim it to one twenty or whatever.

1018
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 3: They're not.

1019
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 4: Let's just, you know, suspend reality for a second. Do

1020
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 4: you have urgency then no, not. If you don't have

1021
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 4: a salary cap and you have the halves and the

1022
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 4: have knots, there's still the same lack of urgency no

1023
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 4: matter how many games you trim. So I think that

1024
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 4: is the biggest problem is put it this way. No

1025
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 4: one wants to see players not earn their full potential.

1026
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 4: But you could argue this in the NFL. Would you

1027
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 4: rather keep it the way it is with a salary

1028
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 4: cap or go back to the way it was with

1029
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 4: no salary cap whatsoever? And you have baseball, you have

1030
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 4: the halves, you have the have nots, you have teams

1031
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 4: with no chance whatsoever to do anything of legitimate circumstance, right,

1032
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 4: that's not fun. That's that interesting to me. I'd much

1033
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 4: rather have the NFL the way it is with a

1034
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 4: salary cap than not. I'd much rather have baseball with

1035
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 4: a salary cap than not. And although Rob Manfred, sure

1036
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 4: what you guys are saying is correct, he's trying to

1037
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 4: put money in the in ownership's pockets, there's no doubt.

1038
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 4: But I think you'd be lying to yourself if you

1039
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 4: said that doesn't help baseball overall as well. I think

1040
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 4: that'd be a major part.

1041
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 6: Of it to me.

1042
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 7: Brian, Again, I was on your side of this debate

1043
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 7: for a long time, and I feel like what you've

1044
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:31,479
Speaker 7: been convinced of, like I was, is say you walk

1045
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 7: into a restaurant and somebody's offering you soup and they

1046
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 7: say it's made with the freshness of ingredients and it's

1047
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 7: organic and it's farm to table, and you have these

1048
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 7: farmers who are growing these vegetables without pesticides or fung

1049
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 7: just sides, and.

1050
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 6: You have the beef that we use for this soup.

1051
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 7: Is you know it's sourced from you know, cows that

1052
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 7: we meet when they're little little calves and we watch

1053
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 7: them raised on the pasture and they just have one

1054
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 7: bad day. And you know, everything is sourced locally, and

1055
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 7: that's how we make.

1056
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 6: Our soup every time. And you say, well, it's delicious soup.

1057
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 6: It's delicious soup.

1058
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 7: And then you walk into that restaurant, say a year later,

1059
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 7: and they're serving the same soup.

1060
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 6: They call it the same thing.

1061
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 7: And you say, wow, this soup is delicious again, you know,

1062
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 7: And then you start telling the story to the person

1063
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 7: you're sitting next to you.

1064
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 6: You're like, and you know what. The way they make

1065
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 6: the soup.

1066
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 7: They have the cows and you're all local raised, and

1067
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 7: then they got the farm to table produce.

1068
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 6: And then the waiter goes, hey, you know, not so fast,

1069
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 6: not so fast. We don't do it that way anymore.

1070
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 7: We use genetically modified tomatoes, and you know, the cucumbers.

1071
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 7: We actually found a way actually to eliminate the cucumbers

1072
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 7: altogether in the soup, and we actually we actually just

1073
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 7: flavor it to make it taste like there's cucumbers in there.

1074
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 6: There's a lot more chemicals in this soup.

1075
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 7: We found a way to manufacture this soup to taste

1076
00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 7: the exact same way but it's it's this suit basically,

1077
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 7: and so you say, well, the soup is still delicious,

1078
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 7: But all that's happened here is the restaurant saving money,

1079
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 7: and somebody somewhere down the line is getting screwed, the

1080
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 7: local farmers, you know, the cattle ramchers. See, that's my

1081
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 7: problem with this. Changing the payroll situation does nothing for

1082
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 7: the fan. So we're tasting the same product, but you're

1083
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 7: screwing people along the way.

1084
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 6: So these players get less money.

1085
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 7: It enriches the MLB owners and by the way, many

1086
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 7: of them who will still find ways to screw their

1087
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 7: fan bases, like the Colorado Rockies owners.

1088
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 6: Look at the way the A's and the Rays have

1089
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Speaker 6: done it.

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Speaker 7: Okay, they've drafted smart, they've brought in people who understand

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Speaker 7: baseball analytics, they've changed the way we look at the

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00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 7: sport all together, and they found a way to win

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00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 7: and compete against the bigger teams out there with bigger

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00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 7: payrolls and stuff like that. And the reason why is

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00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 7: because they got creative. If the our payroll always loses, well,

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00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 7: then we wouldn't be a country, you know what I mean.

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00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 7: The Revolutionary War proves the point, and many other revolutions

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Speaker 7: across history.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's the way this works. Sometimes.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes you got to get creative instead of dumping money

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Speaker 7: on a problem.

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Speaker 6: And guess what if you want more parody, maybe.

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00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 7: Let's get some richer owners to compete with the Dodgers

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00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 7: and compete with the Boston Red Sox who seem to

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00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 7: have an unlimited or the New York Bank you have

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00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 7: a limited.

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00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 6: Pool of cash.

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Speaker 7: I just don't think that limiting the player's potential to

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00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 7: earn is going to change the taste of the soup,

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00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 7: the end product for the consumer.

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Speaker 6: So I I just think that assumption is wrong. It's

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Speaker 6: gonna be this game.

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Speaker 4: Look at the NFL. You telling me if they just

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00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 4: because they play games, Brian, do you think, because that's

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00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 4: not what I'm saying, if they got rid of the

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00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 4: salary cap, you don't think that would change things greatly?

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00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 4: What do you talking about?

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00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 6: Did you think that I'm gonna use that argument against you?

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00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 7: You think that changing the salary cap is really gonna

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Speaker 7: change how competitive baseball is?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 6: I don't do't. Here's the problem.

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Speaker 3: No, here here's the current problem.

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00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 5: We kind of already have a system in place to

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Speaker 5: help the small market teams.

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Speaker 3: It's called revenue sharing. Each team gets two hundred million

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00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 3: a year.

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00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 5: They get one to ten from the local and about

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00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 5: ninety from the national of This was twenty twoenty two numbers.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they're even higher now.

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00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,959
Speaker 5: So every owner, before they even wake up and make

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00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 5: a dime from anything else, make two hundred million in

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00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 5: a collective pot.

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00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, if.

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00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 5: You go look at the salaries of the teams in

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00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 5: Major League Baseball, more than half of them have a

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00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 5: payroll less than two hundred million, which means they are

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00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 5: not using the full two hundred million that they're getting

1139
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 5: in a revenue share to pay their players. It's greedy

1140
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Speaker 5: owners more than anything else.

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00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 3: Well, that's a part of it. Yeah, that is a

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Speaker 3: huge part of it.

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Speaker 5: That's the problem with this argument works for the owners.

1144
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 5: You have to remember that relationship and how the river flows.

1145
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 5: So whatever Manford says is a mouthpiece of the owners.

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00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 5: The owners want a salary cap. They are sick of

1147
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 5: paying this money even though they get a revenue share

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00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 5: that totals more than what half of the team's payrolls

1149
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 5: are in baseball. That's the bigger issue to me here, guys.

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Speaker 4: Well, you have to have a floor. Also, easy solution,

1151
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 4: like some of these franchises are a joke. You have

1152
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 4: to agreed X amount of money.

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Speaker 5: That don't even start the salary cap discussion unless you're

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Speaker 5: going to also.

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Speaker 3: Talk salary floor. Totally agree with that.

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00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 4: We've got Bo Benz and our trusted producer. He's a

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00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 4: big baseball guy, wants the way in both.

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Speaker 9: That was exactly what I was going to say is

1159
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 9: everyone wants to talk about salary cap, but what comes

1160
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 9: up the salary cap as a salary floor and the

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Speaker 9: owners of the Miami Marlins, the Saint Louis Cardinals, Colorado Rockies,

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00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 9: Chicago White Sox, Pittsburgh Pirates are not going to want

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Speaker 9: a salary floor, So it's a moot discussion.

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Speaker 5: Exactly got the bow a plod retweet Bo Benson right there,

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00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 5: nailed it all.

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Speaker 3: We've got to go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Rich.

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Speaker 6: Well, sorry, I was just gonna say, put a bow

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Speaker 6: on it.

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Speaker 7: It's one of these discussions where, like I said, I

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00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 7: flip flapped on it. I used to believe one that

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Speaker 7: the salary cap would fix it until the pandemic hit

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00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 7: and I realized, oh my god, Baseball's problem has nothing

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00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 7: to do with how much they're paying these players. It

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00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 7: has everything to do with how diluted this product is,

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00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 7: and it's awful. Try a Coca Cola where half of

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Speaker 7: it is filled up with water. It'll taste like it'll

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00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 7: it tastes like a cleaning agent. You know, you want

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00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 7: the full flavor you got. You have to concentrate the

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00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 7: product and you have to get back to something that's actually,

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Speaker 7: I don't know, serviceably interesting on a night in, night

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Speaker 7: out basis.

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Speaker 5: It's just that's why you go to McDonald's. You get

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Speaker 5: the really good syrup they put in the fountain drink.

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Speaker 3: That's to me. I had the answer to that right there.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're not gonna have a fifty game season, so

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Speaker 4: I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 5: And they're not going to even go one forty because

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Speaker 5: the TV deals, because then that revenue share would go down,

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Speaker 5: and then the owners would get really would get really

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Speaker 5: freaky about that. Bo honestly, bottle up what you said

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Speaker 5: and sell it. That is exactly the reason why we

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01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 5: can't have this discussion because the owners aren't willing to

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Speaker 5: go floor.

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Speaker 3: They're willing to go cat, they're not willing to go floor.

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Speaker 4: So a little bit of a wordy question for you. Okay,

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Speaker 4: But I'm looking at these investigations, right, MLB Pitcher Weeze

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Speaker 4: or a Tis, he's under MLB investigation, Malik Beasley, he's

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Speaker 4: under federal investigation because there have been some shady things

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Speaker 4: that have raised red flags. Right, So I'm curious from

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Speaker 4: your standpoint. We have these betting integrity firms that monitor

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01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 4: if a bet raises to be you know, like a

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01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 4: red flag. We got to investigate this. But you personally,

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Speaker 4: you see bets flowing on a daily basis, And I'm

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Speaker 4: just curious, from your standpoint, generally speaking, what is it

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Speaker 4: when you see a bet where you just say, oh,

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Speaker 4: that's just a big bet, no big deal compared to Wow,

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01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 4: that that's a shady bet right there. I wonder what's

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01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 4: going on? What is it that what does it take

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Speaker 4: for you to say that when something shady does go

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Speaker 4: go through like.

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Speaker 10: That speaks to one the importance of regulated markets because

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01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 10: you know, while it doesn't seem like a good thing

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01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 10: that you see these kind of like a scandals in

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01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 10: the news, Uh, it shows the fact that it is working,

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01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 10: that we are able to catch these things and these

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Speaker 10: things that wouldn't be caught in you know, an unregulated market.

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Speaker 10: From our side, what we can see, you know, we

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01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 10: have reports that we can run. You know, there's markets

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01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 10: that we see it sometimes. You know that Luis ortiz One.

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Speaker 10: We didn't offer that selection, so I can't specifically comment

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01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 10: on it, but things that I have seen in the

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01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 10: past is that's probably a pretty low liquidity market. They

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01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 10: probably only hold you know, maybe a couple thousand, you know,

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01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 10: on those bets. So if suddenly, you know, you start

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01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 10: seeing someone trying to bet a lot more than that

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01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 10: coming in, it's gonna start to raise eyebrows. Okay, you know,

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Speaker 10: for one, this is a market that could be manipulated

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Speaker 10: by one person. So if it's a market like that

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01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 10: that can be manipulated and we start to see, you know,

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01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 10: bets that are unusual, bigger bets than normal. We'll definitely

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Speaker 10: always kind of look into that. You know, sometimes if

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01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 10: it's you can kind of tell sometimes the difference. A

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01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 10: point back to one that we had a few years

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Speaker 10: back with the LSU baseball Alabama game where the coach

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Speaker 10: ended up getting fired because he was giving out information

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01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 10: early before it came to a certain person. The person

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Speaker 10: that was trying to bet, and the market was trying

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Speaker 10: to bet one hundreds of thousands into the market that

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Speaker 10: typically took you know, five ten thousand bucks. So that

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Speaker 10: was a pretty quick easy red flag for us. And Okay,

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Speaker 10: something's a little bit suspicious here. And then what's nice

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01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 10: is those integrity companies. You know, they reached out to

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Speaker 10: all the books, so if we're getting hit, it's another

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01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 10: book's getting hit. You know, we can all kind of

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01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 10: go to the same place and say, hey, are we

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01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 10: all seeing the same thing. And then they're the ones

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01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 10: that can sit there independently is a third party and

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Speaker 10: do some research and investigate themselves determine what is actually.

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Speaker 7: Going on here.

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Speaker 5: Fantastic question, Brian, Fantastic answer, Christian Honestly, I couldn't have

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Speaker 5: put it any better myself.

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Speaker 3: I've said this for the last couple of months.

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Speaker 5: You know, we've had a few of these pop up

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01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 5: over the last couple of months, really the last two weeks,

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01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 5: it's been really intense and everyone one like the common

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01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 5: thread I see Christian on the average person social media

1286
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 5: about this is this is what regulated gambling, legalized gambling

1287
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 5: is doing to sports.

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Speaker 3: It's ruining sports.

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Speaker 5: And my pushback of that is this is happening regardless

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01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 5: of legalized gambling big in this country or not. The

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01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 5: difference now is we have I would call it like

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Speaker 5: the United Nations, Like that's what these integrity firms kind

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01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 5: of are, Like, They're just these governing bodies that can

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01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 5: bring it to your point, and they work together with

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Speaker 5: the books.

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Speaker 3: Hey this book seeing this? Are you seeing this?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 5: They are the intermediary and it allows the process. It

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01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 5: allows the system to actually find you know how hard

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01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,479
Speaker 5: it would have been to find these bad actors. If

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01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 5: this system was not in place, this could have happened

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01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 5: for years years the you know Luis artiz Are people

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Speaker 5: like him, could have continued this.

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Speaker 3: I think it's too I think it's twofold.

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Speaker 5: It's the integral firms, and it's also frankly, the greed

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01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 5: of the people, because if they were really chill about it,

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01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 5: hey just a little bit here, a little bit on

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Speaker 5: this game.

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01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit on this game.

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01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 5: A little bit on this game, they probably could have

1311
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 5: flown under the radar, but they were a little.

1312
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 3: Too greedy in this particular situation. Is that correct?

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01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean that that tends to be a lot

1314
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 10: of times of it. So, but I don't want to

1315
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 10: talk about it too much that Yeah, it's you know,

1316
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 10: there are ways probably to get around it, but it

1317
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 10: does just speak to the you know, the the point

1318
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 10: of the regulated market is, you know, while we are

1319
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 10: seeing this, we are catching it. We are seeing it.

1320
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Speaker 10: I think there was a couple in college basketball as

1321
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 10: well that happened where you know, you have college athletes

1322
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 10: that sometimes might not know better than they aren't getting

1323
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 10: a ton of money and they say, oh, I can

1324
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 10: sit here and you know, I can make a couple

1325
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 10: of thousand dollars if you know, I just don't score

1326
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 10: as many points in this game, which is really a shame.

1327
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 10: But the fact that we are catching it, I think

1328
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 10: is a very good.

1329
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 6: Sign Yeah, it's a very funny comment.

1330
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 7: You just made their Christian as a trading manager at

1331
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 7: bet MGM.

1332
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 6: I'm not going to tell you how to cheat better.

1333
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 6: It's like.

1334
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 7: Politically, lifters need to learn this one tip to do better.

1335
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Speaker 10: Uh.

1336
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 7: So we're looking it's mid July. We're looking at the

1337
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 7: lineup here. You know, we have Wimbledon, as Brian Tz

1338
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 7: prior to chatting with you, We've got w n B A,

1339
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 7: we have NBA Summer League. I guess college football and

1340
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 7: NFL futures are always available. What what is really drawing

1341
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 7: the most, uh the most tickets at the window.

1342
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 6: Is it tennis?

1343
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 10: Probably tomorrow will be tennis. The women's final though it

1344
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 10: does really perform really well, and obviously Wimbledon is the

1345
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 10: big one, that is always the biggest heads event. MLB

1346
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 10: is still going to drive a ton. We still have

1347
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 10: a full slate today and tomorrow. But the fact that

1348
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 10: we're also getting uh, you know, a rematch of the

1349
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 10: French Open that was you know, basically an instant classic

1350
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 10: is definitely an drive a lot of people but want

1351
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 10: to watch and two autoso to sit there and bet

1352
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 10: on it. So this weekend, for sure, tennis is going

1353
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 10: to be one of the major ones. And then into

1354
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 10: next week is our quiet week as we get into

1355
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 10: the MLB All Star weekend. We have very little on

1356
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 10: the calendar from Monday through Thursday, so sometimes we call

1357
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 10: that vacation week here at the book.

1358
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 4: There you go, how about how about the summer league, Christian,

1359
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 4: how much action do you see flow in if you

1360
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 4: could compare it to other sports to give us an example.

1361
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 4: And also, is that a market that you see a

1362
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 4: good amount of sharp action in?

1363
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 3: Great question?

1364
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 10: Yeah, someone we can get interesting, especially because there's a

1365
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 10: lot of volatility, so you know, sharp action has a

1366
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 10: lot of times, and especially the fact that it's in

1367
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 10: Vegas adds a little bit of an element to it

1368
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 10: where a lot of the sharp betters are located. Because

1369
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 10: what will happen a lot is players don't play as much,

1370
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 10: you know, there's not as much of a need to play,

1371
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 10: and you'll start to see some of the bigger names,

1372
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 10: some of the people that are solid on NBA rosters

1373
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 10: start to kind of drop off as we kind of

1374
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 10: get a little bit later into the summer league. So

1375
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 10: at some point we'll probably stop seeing super flagged from

1376
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 10: these top prospects that are there. Obviously, since Super Flag

1377
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 10: isn't playing, it's going to have a significant change to

1378
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 10: the line. So a lot of times if people are

1379
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 10: on top of that, they can definitely get pretty good edge.

1380
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 10: The something league does does do pretty decent action. You know,

1381
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 10: maybe see a little bit less than an NHL regular

1382
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 10: season game, but for the middle of the summer usually

1383
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 10: we're kind of happy that this is here because it

1384
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 10: is it does give something different for betters to bet on.

1385
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 5: Has this been a unique year at all for you

1386
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 5: with betting baseball with the handle? I just we just

1387
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 5: had a really big discussion about the salary cap and

1388
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 5: and and kind of the way that baseball structures their

1389
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 5: season and just the amount of games that there is,

1390
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 5: and just how hard it is for the average fan

1391
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 5: to just stay up with the volume every single night.

1392
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 5: I'm always curious we're at that midway point now, have

1393
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 5: you noticed any difference year over year, or let's say

1394
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 5: year over last five years that this season is a

1395
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 5: little bit more unique high or low in terms of

1396
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:10,759
Speaker 5: the handle for MLB.

1397
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's it's I think it's been about the same.

1398
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 10: The NBA and the NHL playoffs definitely were not good

1399
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 10: for the betters, so you do see a little bit

1400
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 10: of a drop off, especially you know, not as much

1401
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 10: money as people pocket or the way that those two

1402
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 10: playoff runs went. And then on top of that as well,

1403
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 10: this hasn't been a good month for MLB betters. It's

1404
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 10: actually been one of our better months throughout the MLB.

1405
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 10: So those type of things start to add up and

1406
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 10: they do eat in the handle a bit. So that's

1407
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,679
Speaker 10: why it is nice to have a couple other things

1408
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,839
Speaker 10: wimbled in, other options out there, because, as you mentioned,

1409
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 10: MLB does get really tough, especially at this part of

1410
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 10: the schedule. It's really in the heart of it. You know,

1411
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 10: it's tough to make a difference between today's game and

1412
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 10: tomorrow teams, and then just the really the grind starts

1413
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 10: to to some of these players. You know, sometimes they're

1414
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 10: not taking it as seriously at game one hundred of

1415
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 10: one hundred and sixty two, So it definitely makes it tough.

1416
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 7: Hey, with the rise of prop betting and prop bet culture,

1417
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 7: have used much more intense interest on the Summer League

1418
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 7: games because I know, just based off that one data point,

1419
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 7: my interest in Summer League has skyrocketed.

1420
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 3: Yep.

1421
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 10: Yeah, we do offer which is not my favorite market.

1422
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 10: So we do offer fighter propsy in these summer league games.

1423
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 10: So we offer points and rebounds and three pointers made,

1424
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 10: which you know, we have very low limits because it's

1425
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 10: a it's a market that can chain very quickly. But yeah,

1426
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 10: I mean we do see action on it people and

1427
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 10: obviously love player props. We try to offer as much

1428
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 10: as we can. Even with MLB. You know, there's plenty

1429
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 10: of the same game parlays, and every day I do look

1430
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 10: and there's somebody that hits a nice home run parlay

1431
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 10: for ten to fifteen bucks with a couple palace, and

1432
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 10: so those are always the good ones, the ones I

1433
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 10: like to see.

1434
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 3: Very nice.

1435
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 6: That's right.

1436
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 4: It does your heart good to see those betters win,

1437
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,520
Speaker 4: doesn't it.

1438
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 10: I'm rooting for the players way more than you think.

1439
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 10: I love to see what he's been exactly.

1440
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

1441
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 10: Doesn't my salary and.

1442
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 4: You're gonna be winning anyway, you know, right he publicized

1443
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 4: one parlay. All these knuckleheads bet nineteen thousand parlays.

1444
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 3: And you win all those parlay.

1445
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 4: All right, Christian, great stuff as always, man, Good to

1446
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 4: catch up with you on a Saturday. I hope you

1447
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 4: have a good day. We'll catch you soon.

1448
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: Of course.

1449
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 3: He thanks for having me absolutely there.

1450
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 4: He is Christian Sippolini Bet MGM Trading manager. Very good stuff.

1451
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 3: By the way.

1452
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 4: Uh, did you guys randomly catch former NFL running back

1453
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 4: Adrian Peterson getting into a fight, a fist fight with

1454
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 4: the poker players? You see that recently? Oh yeah, yeah,

1455
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 4: So there's another layer.

1456
01:12:58,520 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 3: To this story.

1457
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 4: So Adrian Peterson, he's gonna be fighting this guy in

1458
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 4: the ring. He signed up if it's a celebrity boxing

1459
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 4: match between Adrian Peterson and the poker player who he

1460
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 4: got into a fistfight with. So this will happen in

1461
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 4: the not too distant future. But what do you think

1462
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,759
Speaker 4: about that? You interested in a celebrity boxing match between

1463
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 4: Adrian Peterson and this poker player.

1464
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 7: Only if BETTMGM and Fox Sports Radio puts us ringside up.

1465
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 6: There you go.

1466
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:33,759
Speaker 5: I bet the gambling for that will be fantastic. I mean, listen,

1467
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 5: what what's a boxing match without a good bet?

1468
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 3: Well, sure, yeah, you know, you know it's funny.

1469
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 4: I'm curious, uh, not to go too deep into it,

1470
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 4: but what do you guys think about it? Because there

1471
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 4: are a lot of boxing purists that are like, oh,

1472
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 4: celebrity boxing matches, Like that's the worst thing ever, Jake

1473
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 4: Paul is the worst thing ever.

1474
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, look, man.

1475
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 4: Whatever gets you into the tent, you know what I mean? Like,

1476
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 4: if you're interested in boxing through celebrity boxing, great, whatever

1477
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 4: gets you there. That's how I would look at it.

1478
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 4: And I'm a fight fan, don't. I don't look down

1479
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,879
Speaker 4: at the celebrity boxing stuff is it's still tied to boxing, obviously.

1480
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 4: I don't look at it as a bad, horrible thing

1481
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 4: for boxing itself.

1482
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 7: Agree, it's the Taylor Swift effect on the NFL. There's

1483
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 7: some purest fans who are like, oh, oh my god,

1484
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 7: they're taking my football and they're turning into this pop

1485
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 7: culture thing. It's like, who cares, Let's bring more people

1486
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 7: under the tent. And I don't care if your wife

1487
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 7: or your girlfriend, or I don't know, your your sister

1488
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 7: or your brother for that matter, are watching football now

1489
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 7: because of Taylor Swift. If there's more interest in something

1490
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 7: you're interested in, what all of a sudden it becomes uncool?

1491
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 7: I mean that is a mindset with certain cultures. You know,

1492
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 7: there's that hipster you know thought process that you know,

1493
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 7: Once this goes mainstream, I'm out.

1494
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 6: I gotta be on the cutting edge of cool, you know.

1495
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 6: But I'm not like that.

1496
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 7: I say, the more the merrier, let's all be interested

1497
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 7: in And if it's celebrity boxing, that's your gateway drugged

1498
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 7: enjoying boxing.

1499
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 6: Overall, I'm fine with it.

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01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, no doubt. I think that's well said for sure. Right,

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Speaker 2: Bellinger hits one deep the right center back at the

1519
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 2: wall is Chucker.

1520
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 6: Know that ball went over the wall.

1521
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 7: There we go, there's another belly bomb and Cody Bellinger

1522
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 7: gets his third belly bomb of the night.

1523
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Speaker 6: That's right.

1530
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:54,640
Speaker 4: Cody Bellinger three home runs against his former team, like

1531
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 4: real fast before we get to prop it up. You

1532
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 4: know what's crazy, fellas, is when you can say, hey,

1533
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 4: this is the first guy to do this in Major

1534
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 4: League baseball, It's like, yeah, that's that's saying something right there.

1535
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 4: But Cody Bellinger was the first guy to hit three

1536
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 4: home runs in his first game against his former team.

1537
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 3: Don't trade Cody Bellinger. Note to sell.

1538
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got many players have faced their former teams.

1539
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 5: You know it's that's belly bomb sounds like something I

1540
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 5: would buy on the strip, like at a bar, Like, hey,

1541
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 5: we we're selling belly bombs two for a dollar.

1542
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, something with alcohol for sure.

1543
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 7: Ye.

1544
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to.

1545
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 1: This prop it up player plays.

1546
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 4: Yes, the prop betting waters.

1547
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 3: They are soothing shared. We start with you with something

1548
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 3: you like.

1549
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a situational angle today, a very interesting game.

1550
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 5: Phillies and Padres and and Rich has probably watched this

1551
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 5: Padres lineup more than me this year. So I'm not

1552
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 5: going to talk about how great this San Diego lineup is.

1553
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 5: That's not the part of the handicap that's important. But

1554
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 5: Zach Wheeler under eighteen and a half outs hear me out.

1555
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 5: So cy young favorite right now is having a great year.

1556
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 5: If you go back and look at what happened last year.

1557
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 5: The last start before the All Star break, Wheeler went

1558
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,759
Speaker 5: five innings and they shut him down real early because

1559
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 5: they wanted to give him just a little bit of

1560
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 5: extra rest because then he gets the long break into

1561
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 5: the All Star week, and then he'll now have a

1562
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 5: little bit of extra gas in the tank heading into

1563
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 5: the second half, I think Rob Thompson's gonna do the

1564
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 5: exact same thing today. I think Wheeler is gonna go

1565
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 5: six innings max, and then they're gonna shut him down

1566
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 5: and say, hey, listen, Bud, you've gone over one hundred

1567
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 5: and fifteen innings in this first half.

1568
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 6: We need you in the second half.

1569
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 5: So I think it's gonna be a shorter outing than

1570
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 5: usual for Zach Wheeler. Not because he's not gonna pitch well,

1571
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 5: and not because this Padres lineup is great. They are great,

1572
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 5: But I think the situational angle of Wheeler getting just

1573
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 5: a little bit of extra rest before the All Star

1574
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 5: break is why I'll go under eighteen and a half

1575
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 5: outs over at that FGM.

1576
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 7: Nice interesting, This Philly is Padre's game is filled with

1577
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 7: hitters and some who have been on a streak lately.

1578
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 7: I'm gonna more than two or over two hits runs

1579
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 7: Ribby's for Bryce Harper. I feel like, for whatever reason,

1580
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 7: this matchup, and maybe it's because they recently have faced

1581
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 7: each other in the postseason, it's becoming a bit of

1582
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 7: a rivalry and it's becoming more offensive.

1583
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 6: Than defensive, if that makes sense.

1584
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 7: The bats come out to play when the Phillies and

1585
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 7: the Padres face one another.

1586
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 6: So I like Bryce over the two Ribby's.

1587
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 7: Hits runs in this one. You get minus won twenty

1588
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 7: odds on that.

1589
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll go back to the WNBA on you again.

1590
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna stick with the same theme. The Chicago

1591
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 4: skuy do not play defense.

1592
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 3: Let's start with that. So let's look at the points market.

1593
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 4: The Feasta Collier fantastic player, probably gonna be the WNBA MVP.

1594
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 4: Hard to for her not to win this award. She's fantastic.

1595
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 4: I think she's gonna score over twenty one and a

1596
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 4: half points. You got hooked last time against Chicago, which

1597
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 4: makes me like this a little bit more right like

1598
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 4: twenty one points last game against Chicago. But I think

1599
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 4: she takes advantage of the situation and the lack of

1600
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 4: defense from the Chicago Sky.

1601
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 3: Give me the visa.

1602
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 4: Collier always a threat to go over twenty one and

1603
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 4: a half against the Sky.

1604
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 3: I like it even more. I'll go over that. Collier

1605
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 3: is definitely winning the MVP.

1606
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 5: Absolutely, just a I guess a PSA for prop betters

1607
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 5: in the baseball world. This weekend, today and tomorrow are

1608
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 5: the last two days before the All Star break.

1609
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 3: Keep that in mind.

1610
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 5: Guys will just like the Wheeler Angle, guys will be like, hey,

1611
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 5: you know, I'm a little bit banged up, Like let's

1612
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 5: let me go only half my outing today or seventy

1613
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 5: five percent.

1614
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:50,480
Speaker 3: Give me that extra.

1615
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 5: Break going into you know, the All Star week keep

1616
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 5: in mind with props, you might get some really weird

1617
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 5: playing time imbalances because of the All Star break kind

1618
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 5: in this weekend.

1619
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 4: I love it because it gives you an extra out

1620
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 4: if you're on the under, even if it's brilliant, you

1621
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 4: have that extra possibility.

1622
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 3: In your favor.

1623
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 4: Though very well known. All right, coming up next, there's

1624
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 4: so much help in the offseason. So let's talk about

1625
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 4: people losing their jobs. Oh what is going on top

1626
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 4: of the morning too?

1627
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 7: You?

1628
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,799
Speaker 4: I hope you're a Saturday is off to a fantastic start.

1629
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 4: We will get to coaches maybe getting axed this season, right, like,

1630
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 4: how long is your list? Exactly? So that's coming up

1631
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,080
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01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,920
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1635
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1638
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Speaker 4: radio dial. So be sure to preset Fox Sports Radio

1639
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 4: in the iHeartRadio app and it'll always pop up at

1640
01:21:56,439 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 4: the top of your screen. Okay, so first off, what

1641
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:04,600
Speaker 4: made me think about this? The Dolphins, My Dolphins, my

1642
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 4: precious fins. Right, they're reportedly interested. There's a hot new

1643
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:13,759
Speaker 4: rumor they're interested in signing veteran wide receiver Keenan Allen.

1644
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 4: And in the rundown, I wrote, I was yawning while

1645
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 4: I typed that last sentence, and then I checked the

1646
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 4: numbers this morning. The numbers are a little bit better

1647
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 4: than you might think. I think some of this was

1648
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 4: he was with the Bears last season. The Bears didn't

1649
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 4: have a good year wins and losses wise. And it

1650
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 4: turns into man, Keenan Allen is a shell of himself.

1651
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 4: He's clearly not prime Keenan Allen anymore. But do you

1652
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 4: think these numbers are a little bit better than you

1653
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 4: would have anticipated? So last season with the Bears, in

1654
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 4: fifteen games, seventy catches, seven hundred and forty four yards,

1655
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 4: seven touchdowns. It's pretty decent, right, I mean, it's okay,

1656
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 4: it's respectable. So I don't think this move would do

1657
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 4: wonders for the Dolphins, but you can do a whole

1658
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 4: lot worse than Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle Keenan Allen as

1659
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 4: your one two three combo platter right there. What do

1660
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 4: you think about this hot rumor of the Dolphins maybe

1661
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 4: signing Keenan Allen.

1662
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 7: I think it would be a brilliant move for them

1663
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:18,719
Speaker 7: because one of the things you need for a player

1664
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 7: like Tua is multiple places to get the football quickly

1665
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 7: because he's not highly mobile and he's often injured great,

1666
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 7: so it's all about.

1667
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 6: Ball snapped, get the ball out. Keenan Allen is an

1668
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 6: elite route runner.

1669
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 7: You have speed that could take the top off the defense.

1670
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 7: With Tyreek Hill and obviously a very serviceable, if not excellent,

1671
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 7: pass catcher and Waddle, that would be a trio that

1672
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 7: could do some damage against most defenses in the NFL.

1673
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 7: If Tua is having one of his better years, which

1674
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:56,759
Speaker 7: with health, that's what you always anticipate heading into a season.

1675
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, I think, and as much as I

1676
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:05,440
Speaker 5: love Keenan Allen. I don't think he's like needle moving material,

1677
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 5: but he's consistent. He adds depth, and let's be honest,

1678
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,719
Speaker 5: I think Miami. I think if there was a team

1679
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 5: right now, if you ask me, okay, Jared, close your eyes,

1680
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 5: crystal ball, what's the first coach that's gonna either a

1681
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 5: be fired or be get talked about so much that

1682
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 5: we think he's all getting fired. I think McDaniel's at

1683
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,719
Speaker 5: the top of the list right now. The only reason

1684
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 5: that I would I'm not saying gable is because they

1685
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 5: just drafted a young quarterback in the first round, and

1686
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 5: he's a quarterback guru, and I think that's kind of

1687
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 5: like an extra a little security blanket for him because

1688
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 5: they made that move up right, they trade it up

1689
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 5: in the first round for Jackson Dart, and I don't think.

1690
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 3: They make that move.

1691
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 5: You know, the GM and this GM and coach in

1692
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 5: New York seem to be kind of in tandem, Shane

1693
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 5: and Dabele, and they both just got you know, kind

1694
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 5: of another year. I think of security with the move

1695
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 5: to draft the quarterback in the first round.

1696
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 3: So I think McDaniel is.

1697
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 5: The first coach on the hot seat this year, and

1698
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 5: I think this move is kind of Hey, we got

1699
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 5: to get as many pieces around him as possible because

1700
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,719
Speaker 5: if not, things are gonna go south really quick.

1701
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the next part of it.

1702
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 4: Right where the Finns, maybe we're gonna sign Keenan Allen

1703
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 4: And I love your points, Rich right where Tua is

1704
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 4: not a great athletes, not moving around buying time like

1705
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson or something back there, and you gotta get

1706
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 4: rid of the football. Think about it. They lost John

1707
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,480
Speaker 4: new Smith, who had a bunch of catches really.

1708
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 3: Is stellar season.

1709
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,759
Speaker 4: They're only pro bowler, but that was big for Tua

1710
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 4: because sometimes you gotta throw hot, you've got to get

1711
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 4: rid of the football instead of taking that additional punishment.

1712
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, Keenan Allen could help with that. But with

1713
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 4: all that being said, yeah, I'm with Jared Man, the

1714
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 4: Dolphins have lost a ton of talent. I think Mike

1715
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 4: McDaniel is a great candidate to get fired. I don't

1716
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,799
Speaker 4: know if he's gonna be the first coach to get fired,

1717
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 4: you know, like in the season or something like that.

1718
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 4: But I don't think he has a job with the

1719
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 4: Finns after this season. It's just it's a team not

1720
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 4: too long ago when Tua was on a rookie contract.

1721
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 4: They had a ton of talent and high expectations. And

1722
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 4: when you're a couple of years removed from that and

1723
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 4: the roster isn't what it once was, and you know,

1724
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 4: you have a six and eleven season, Like, you're just

1725
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 4: not gonna hold onto your job if that's the case.

1726
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 4: So I think McDaniel gets fired after the season. I

1727
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 4: think Brian Dable gets fired after the season. The only

1728
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 4: way is, like what you said with Jackson Dart, if

1729
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 4: he gets on the field show some promise, Well, maybe

1730
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 4: they hold on to him again. But I just can't

1731
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:41,679
Speaker 4: anticipate the Giants winning many games.

1732
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 3: And when you're on the heels.

1733
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 4: Of a three and fourteen season, like, how do you

1734
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 4: justify running it back again if they're four and you know, thirteen.

1735
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be gone when it's all said

1736
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:53,759
Speaker 4: and done.

1737
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 6: It's unless unless.

1738
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 7: Unless he is what they thought he was when they

1739
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 7: hired him, which is a QB whisper. You know, and

1740
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 7: think about what he was tasked to do with the

1741
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 7: tools he was given. You know, your hand to Daniel Jones,

1742
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 7: that wasn't his choice. That was the New York Jets

1743
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 7: or excuse me, Giants' current quarterback situation, and then you

1744
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 7: took away Sakuon Barkley from him, you know, so it's like, Okay, yeah,

1745
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 7: he's on the hot seat. But I do think it's

1746
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 7: actually an intelligent and wise decision from an ownership group

1747
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 7: that hasn't made a ton of them lately to keep

1748
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 7: him on and see if he really has the goods now. Hopefully,

1749
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 7: Dart was a selection that he was comfortable with, that

1750
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 7: he had a lot to say about in terms of

1751
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 7: positive evaluation. What he was able to do with excuse me,

1752
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 7: Josh Allen as the Bills offensive coordinator was nothing short

1753
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 7: of miraculous. If you look at Josh Allen's completion percentage

1754
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 7: stats in college at Wyoming compared to what he was

1755
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,679
Speaker 7: able to become as a pro normally, you don't see

1756
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 7: leaps like that. We're talking about bounding leaps forward. He

1757
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 7: had a similar completion percentage as Tim Tebow coming out

1758
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 7: of Florida. Tim Tebow never amounted a mobile quarterback, really

1759
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:22,719
Speaker 7: talented guy, winner, never amounted to anything in the NFL

1760
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 7: at the quarterback position. Well, Josh Allen did, and so

1761
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 7: I'm not saying Jackson Dart will as well, but at

1762
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 7: least they're giving him an opportunity to see if he

1763
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 7: can't mold a drafted quarterback into something that's fell worthy,

1764
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 7: if not playoff worthy at that position. And I do

1765
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 7: think it's smart to give him a shot, but I

1766
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 7: think that's a short leash.

1767
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 6: Brian, I would agree with that.

1768
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 5: This brings me to and I'm glad we're having this

1769
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 5: discussion because I think you guys nailed the Giants part

1770
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 5: of it. But it brings me to the discussion of

1771
01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 5: there's going to be one of these teams with a

1772
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 5: win total of less than eight that's going to make

1773
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 5: the playoffs.

1774
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 3: How do I know this?

1775
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 5: It's happened every year since two thousand. In fact, in

1776
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 5: twenty of the twenty four years, two teams with a

1777
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 5: win total of less than eight or I guess eight

1778
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 5: or less have made the playoffs. Last year Washington, Denver, Minnesota,

1779
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 5: three teams. Three teams last year made the playoffs with

1780
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 5: a win total of eight or less.

1781
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:27,879
Speaker 3: So here are your options.

1782
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 5: It's if you don't think it's going to be the Giants,

1783
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 5: throw them out. You've got Atlanta, Dallas, Indy, Jacksonville, New England, Seattle, Carolina, Vegas,

1784
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 5: New Orleans, Cleveland, Jets, Giants, Titans. Obviously we're eliminating Giants

1785
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 5: based off this discussion, but history tells us one of

1786
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 5: those teams that I just mentioned is going to make

1787
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 5: the playoffs.

1788
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 3: So who's it going to be? I like the Arizona Cardinals,

1789
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 3: I've been No, they're at eight and a half. They're

1790
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 3: not eligible. They're not eligible.

1791
01:29:53,280 --> 01:30:00,640
Speaker 5: Atlanta, Dallas, Indy, Jacksonville, New England their popular choice, Seattle, Carolina, Vegas.

1792
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 3: New Orleans, Cleveland, Jets, Giants, Titans. Those would be seven

1793
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 3: and a halfs or less. I think the Patriots have

1794
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 3: a really good ja. That's the trendy choice.

1795
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,680
Speaker 5: Jacksonville, too, they play in that division, I think is

1796
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:10,799
Speaker 5: another trendy choice.

1797
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 4: I think it would take some injuries to other teams

1798
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 4: in their division.

1799
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 6: But injuries always happen though, right.

1800
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Like we don't play these we don't play

1801
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 4: seasons on paper. Okay, but the Cowboys, man, I know

1802
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 4: people look at them as a punchline. But again, they've

1803
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:30,719
Speaker 4: got a legitimately talented roster.

1804
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 3: So would it.

1805
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 4: Shock me if they somehow snuck into the playoffs. No,

1806
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 4: it wouldn't they get three teams in the same division.

1807
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 4: It's tough to do. Like the NFC North was such

1808
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 4: a gauntlet last season and they did it. That's not

1809
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 4: easy to do. The AFC West did it also. Do

1810
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 4: I see three playoff playoff teams from the NFC East.

1811
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 4: That's gonna be hard to see. But hey man, maybe

1812
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 4: maybe the injury bug hits Philly Nasty after a Super

1813
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 4: Bowl winning season. It wouldn't be the craziest thing ever.

1814
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 6: Teams making it.

1815
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 7: It's yeah, the the NFC East in general, when you

1816
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 7: look around that division, I'm very curious how many of

1817
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 7: even the current head coaches outside the Commanders obviously are

1818
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 7: rolling off a pretty impressive season, are going to be

1819
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 7: there after a couple seasons, you know what I mean, Like,

1820
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 7: couldn't you see wholesale change across the board now? Jerry

1821
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 7: Jones usually stays pretty late at the party with every

1822
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 7: head coach higher. But he's getting older and I know,

1823
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 7: you know, he wants a Super Bowl and Dak's getting

1824
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 7: closer and closer to the end of his road as

1825
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 7: a starting NFL quarterback. You know, you look at the

1826
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 7: situation in New York you look at the situation in Philly,

1827
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 7: I'm really I'm very curious what ends up happening overall

1828
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 7: in the NFC East at the head coaching position.

1829
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:51,720
Speaker 4: Well, if you look at if you get back to

1830
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 4: the which coaches are going to get fired at the

1831
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 4: end of the season. Yeah, what's interesting is you look

1832
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 4: around the league and just go team by team, and

1833
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 4: a lot of these teams are most likely going to

1834
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 4: have good enough seasons where you don't fire your head coach.

1835
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 4: And there are so many like first year, second year

1836
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 4: head coaches where it's so early it would have to

1837
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 4: be a disaster for those guys to get run. And

1838
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,839
Speaker 4: so it's funny at the end of the season, we're like, oh, candidate,

1839
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 4: candidate Canada, he's gone, he's gone, he's gone, And there

1840
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 4: are a lot of firings. But at the beginning of

1841
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 4: the season, it's not as easy to tell in forecast

1842
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 4: who's gonna be gone. I think a couple of candidates,

1843
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 4: even though we know the Browns are going to be

1844
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 4: a grease fire and lose a ton of games this season.

1845
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:40,639
Speaker 4: We know this, you know, like Kevin Stefanski, maybe maybe

1846
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 4: a candidate at the end of the season, even though

1847
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 4: there are no expectations for the Browns to do anything

1848
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:49,719
Speaker 4: this season, I think the Colts head coach Shane Steichen

1849
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:51,480
Speaker 4: would have to be a candidate.

1850
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 6: No, they're not gonna have same year the owner.

1851
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 3: That's tough.

1852
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 4: That is tough, but right, you're not gonna have good

1853
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 4: quarterback play. It's most likely going to be Daniel Jones there,

1854
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:04,680
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson banged up. But I'm confidence saying it's not

1855
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 4: gonna be stellar either way. I can lead to a

1856
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 4: lot of losses and then also a team with higher expectations.

1857
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 4: But if it's another disappointing season, the Bengals don't have

1858
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 4: a defense. What if the Bengals are a non playoff

1859
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 4: team losing record, maybe they think about firing Zach Taylor,

1860
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 4: who I don't think he's a bad head coach, but

1861
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 4: that's one that I would.

1862
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 3: At least say is on the radar for me. Taylor's tough.

1863
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 3: The flip side of this argument with the.

1864
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 5: Teams that are really good that are gonna underachieve, that's

1865
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 5: always the flip side.

1866
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 6: Yep, that's true too.

1867
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, because there's certain coaches who again talking about staying

1868
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,559
Speaker 7: late at the party. You know, you can have some

1869
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 7: success and maybe back Taylor and the Bengals are an

1870
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 7: example of a team that have had some success. The

1871
01:33:55,920 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 7: defense really let down that team last year, but you

1872
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 7: or even the Browns. The Browns I realized last year

1873
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:07,879
Speaker 7: again wasn't a good example of this recent string of success.

1874
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 7: But the year prior in twenty twenty three, that was

1875
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:12,719
Speaker 7: a playoff team and.

1876
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 6: Coach Stefanski one Coach of the year. You know.

1877
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:20,640
Speaker 7: So it's like you can be very quickly departed from

1878
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 7: you know, a pretty high height in terms of your

1879
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 7: coaching career and be on the hot seats. So no

1880
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:31,640
Speaker 7: argument here, Brian, I mean the Colts. Anytime there's a

1881
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 7: change at the top. I mean, just think about when

1882
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 7: a CEO or a founder passes away suddenly and an

1883
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:42,639
Speaker 7: air of some sort takes over a company.

1884
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 6: The first thing they want to do is make sure.

1885
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 7: They know that, well, I'm not my dad, I'm going

1886
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 7: to run things a little differently around here in heads roll,

1887
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 7: and so it is highly likely we see change in Indy.

1888
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 3: That's a good point. I didn't think of it from

1889
01:34:58,960 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 3: that perspective.

1890
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 5: I guess I'm just a little bit higher on Stike

1891
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 5: in than like I think Stichen's a really good coach,

1892
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 5: and if he gets fired, he's gonna have another job

1893
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 5: really quick. Maybe not as a head coach, but absolutely

1894
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 5: as an offensive coordinator. I love these these polarizing, uh

1895
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 5: you know discussions, right like, which team with a win

1896
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:22,679
Speaker 5: total of less than eight it's gonna make the playoffs?

1897
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 3: It happens every year.

1898
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 5: How about every year since two thousand, a team with

1899
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 5: a win total of ten or more has missed the playoffs.

1900
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 5: Last year there were two, Dallas and San Francisco. This year,

1901
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:35,720
Speaker 5: your options are so again. History says one of these

1902
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 5: six teams is going to miss the playoffs. Baltimore, Buffalo,

1903
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 5: Kansas City, Philly, Detroit, San Francisco. I mean, that's a

1904
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 5: tough that's a tough discussion right there. But history says

1905
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 5: one of those teams is going to dramatically underachieve and

1906
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 5: miss the playoffs. I think Detroit would be my choice,

1907
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 5: but reluctantly because the other five are just so darn

1908
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 5: rock solid.

1909
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 3: It's really hard to see Kansas City or really missing

1910
01:35:58,880 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 3: the playoffs.

1911
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:01,840
Speaker 5: It's really hard to see Baltimore, Buffalo missing the playoffs.

1912
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 5: It's really hard to see San Francisco with their schedule

1913
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 5: as soft as buttery, Scharman Ultra, you know, toilet paper

1914
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:11,600
Speaker 5: missing the playoffs, Detroit loses both coordinators.

1915
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:13,719
Speaker 3: You got the Jared Goff narrative.

1916
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 5: Variety's a little bit, you know, angry and upset about

1917
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 5: the Rams and the Netflix thing.

1918
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 3: I think that's a non story.

1919
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 5: But history says one of those six teams gonna miss

1920
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:21,879
Speaker 5: the playoffs.

1921
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 3: What do we think.

1922
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 4: I'm just hung up on buttery, toilet paper, buy it

1923
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 4: at costco.

1924
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 3: H it's the new age right there. You know, it

1925
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 3: works a lot better.

1926
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 4: It's tough to see anyone, but I hear you. It's

1927
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:38,719
Speaker 4: just schedule based. With the Lions, I think the Lions

1928
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 4: are still gonna be good. But if you got to

1929
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 4: pick someone and your points to just this gauntlet of

1930
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 4: a road schedule, a tough schedule top to bottom, maybe,

1931
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe it's not a bad shot in the dark.

1932
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 3: I think I'm not huge on the Diners.

1933
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, their schedule is justers.

1934
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 7: Also, let's talk about the Niners for a second, just

1935
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 7: from a standpoint of how shaky the ground could potentially be.

1936
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 7: Jed york Hire, Kyle Shanahan, and John Lynch together as

1937
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 7: a mapped pair. They've had nothing but success since they've

1938
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 7: been there, and they've done it kind of with a

1939
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 7: patch quilt. At quarterback. You know, you had the Garoppolo years.

1940
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 7: There was some consistency there, but Jimmy got hurt a lot.

1941
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 7: There were a lot of quarterbacks who jumped in there,

1942
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 7: you know, and then brock Purty emerges. Brock Purdy saved

1943
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 7: jobs around there because if you think about what was

1944
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 7: supposed to happen with Trey Lance and then what usually

1945
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 7: happens when and evaluators and coaches missed that badly on

1946
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 7: a player, Usually they're all gone. But Brock party saved

1947
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 7: the day with the last overall pick in the draft.

1948
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 7: So if they get this wrong, if brock Purty doesn't

1949
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 7: turn out to make good on this big old contract

1950
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 7: they just gave him, and I'm not saying that's gonna happen,

1951
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 7: but if they turn in another lackluster season, you could

1952
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 7: you could definitely make an argument where all of a

1953
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:09,719
Speaker 7: sudden there's gonna be some raised eyebrows and some question

1954
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,839
Speaker 7: marks around the future at head coach in general manager

1955
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 7: for the San Francisco forty nine ers.

1956
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think it's the opposite this year, guys,

1957
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 5: I really do. I think this is gonna be a

1958
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 5: really good year for San Francisco. I honestly, I think

1959
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 5: a lot of it too is not only the schedule,

1960
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 5: but the way the schedule is is stacked. The beginning

1961
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 5: and the end are just cupcakes. The first four weeks

1962
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 5: and the last four weeks, I think is what will excel.

1963
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 5: Like San Francisco is gonna get off to a really

1964
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 5: good start. I think I think they're gonna get off

1965
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 5: to a really good start. I mean, their first four

1966
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 5: games are against Seattle, New Orleans, Arizona, and Jacksonville.

1967
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 3: Three of them are at or two of them at home.

1968
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 5: New Orleans is, I know, tough place to play, but

1969
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 5: the Saints might be the worst team in the league

1970
01:38:57,960 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 5: this year.

1971
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 3: And then their last four.

1972
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:01,680
Speaker 5: Games, like if you want to make a case for

1973
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 5: the brock Purty MVP bet.

1974
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 3: The reason he didn't win it two years ago.

1975
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 5: Was because he got upstaged by the actual MVP the

1976
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 5: last second to last week of the year on Monday Night.

1977
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 5: This season, his last four games. They get a bye

1978
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 5: in Week fourteen, and then the Niners play Tennessee, Indy, Chicago,

1979
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 5: Seattle at home down the stretch. Two of those four

1980
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 5: games are in primetime Monday night against Indy, Sunday night

1981
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:31,720
Speaker 5: against Chicago. He's gonna get the primetime stage against easy opponents,

1982
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 5: and he's gonna have the spotlight. So I think San

1983
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 5: Francisco is ready to roll. Honestly, I'm I'm it's early.

1984
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 5: I'm not ready to go there yet, but they are

1985
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 5: right now the team I would pick for my Super

1986
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:44,600
Speaker 5: Bowl NFC team.

1987
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 3: But I can't go there. I can't go there.

1988
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1997
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1998
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2008
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 4: just talking about the Niners. Let's talk about them some more.

2009
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 4: Some wide receiver news. First one, Brandon Nayuk. He's expected

2010
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 4: to start the season on the PUP list, the physically

2011
01:40:58,280 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 4: unable to perform list.

2012
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:01,719
Speaker 3: I like pup, some go pup.

2013
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 4: I'm team pup anyway, either here nor there. What impact

2014
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 4: if Ayuk starts on the PUP list do you think

2015
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:14,040
Speaker 4: that will have on brock Purty's season numbers? Okay, so

2016
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 4: if you look at the season long prop bets for

2017
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 4: brock Purty passing yards thirty eight fifty and a half,

2018
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 4: touchdown passes twenty four and a half. Would you take

2019
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 4: the over or under on either? Now here's a little

2020
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 4: bit of context. Twenty twenty three he sored over forty

2021
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 4: two eighty in passing yards thirty one touchdown passes. Now,

2022
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 4: last season, step back missed a couple of games right

2023
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 4: and also supporting cast wasn't as good. Ayuk was hurt

2024
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 4: for a good portion of the season. So Perty through

2025
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 4: for thirty eight sixty four. He still hit the over

2026
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 4: barely by like a completion. Last season they had twenty

2027
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 4: touchdown passes, so he was over and yards under in

2028
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 4: touchdown passes. So again we'll start with you Rich for

2029
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 4: Perty thirty eight to fifty and a half passing yards,

2030
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 4: twenty four and a half touchdown passes. Those are his

2031
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 4: season long prop bets this season. What do you think?

2032
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 6: I'm bullish on brock Pardy.

2033
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 7: I think that this could be a big bounce back

2034
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 7: season for him for a lot of different reasons. I

2035
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:26,720
Speaker 7: really do think that many people forget that this is

2036
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 7: in a one man show. No quarterback can do it

2037
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 7: by himself. There's obviously better quarterbacks than others. You know,

2038
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 7: there's the Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrows and you know

2039
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 7: from a talent standpoint Josh Allen justin Herbert's of the world,

2040
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 7: where it's like, Wow, their talent is obvious. They need

2041
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 7: to be paired with talent in order for them to

2042
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 7: fully flourish. Now, Patrick Mahomes, it seems like any cast

2043
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 7: of characters you put alongside of him, he's going to

2044
01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 7: get the job done with. He's proven that. He also

2045
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 7: has one of the best head coaches in the NFL.

2046
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:05,559
Speaker 7: That definitely helps. He's offensive minded as a head coach.

2047
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 7: That definitely helps. But I digress on other quarterbacks to

2048
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 7: focus on Brock perty.

2049
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 6: I think he's capable. I think he's smart.

2050
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:17,719
Speaker 7: I think even if I starts on the pup list,

2051
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:20,679
Speaker 7: you know you have Ricky Piersoll, who's a deep threat.

2052
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 7: They obviously brought him in to replace some of the

2053
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 7: production they've lost in at the receiver position. So I

2054
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 7: think this is going to be a big bounce back

2055
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 7: here for Brock. I also think that when you take

2056
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 7: away the worry of getting a contract done or potentially

2057
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:42,840
Speaker 7: what your future looks like with your team or elsewhere

2058
01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 7: in the NFL, because trust me, he was reading the

2059
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 7: newspaper too. He was having those conversations all season long

2060
01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:53,720
Speaker 7: with his agent too. That can have an effect on

2061
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:57,839
Speaker 7: your play. So kind of insummation, I would take overs

2062
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 7: with Brock here this season, at least in terms of,

2063
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 7: you know, the future outlook of this this upcoming NFL

2064
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 7: season in twenty twenty five.

2065
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think directionally, I like that take. I just

2066
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 5: don't like the bet.

2067
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 3: And here's why.

2068
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 5: Sixty seven percent of quarterbacks went under their passing yard

2069
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:24,240
Speaker 5: total last year. Over the last four seasons, almost seventy

2070
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 5: percent of quarterbacks stay under their season long passing yard totals.

2071
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:34,799
Speaker 3: It is a very hard prop to clear for many reasons.

2072
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 5: One game script, the Niners might have double they have

2073
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 5: the easy schedule in the NFL.

2074
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 3: There you go. They might have double digit leads in

2075
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 3: ten games this year.

2076
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 5: In the fourth quarter, it just kills your your potential

2077
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 5: for going over props. Secondly, and this is a big

2078
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 5: reason why I'm not betting Drew Ler to win the Heisman.

2079
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:56,960
Speaker 5: The Niners, I think are gonna have a much better

2080
01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:57,760
Speaker 5: defense this year.

2081
01:44:57,800 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 3: Salas back.

2082
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 5: They drafted Williams the first round. Their defense was terrible

2083
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 5: last year. I think they bounced back. The Niners aren't

2084
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 5: gonna need to drop thirty points in order to win games.

2085
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:09,800
Speaker 5: Their defense is gonna keep them into all of the

2086
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:13,880
Speaker 5: games and the games that they're blowing out these bad opponents.

2087
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 5: In Brock's not gonna be asked to do much, nor

2088
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:20,639
Speaker 5: should he be rely on McCaffrey and Girndo and Jordan

2089
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:22,799
Speaker 5: James in your really good backfield to get you across

2090
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:26,480
Speaker 5: the finish line. So as much as I love directionally

2091
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 5: the Niners season, I think Brock's an MVP candidate. I

2092
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:33,800
Speaker 5: think San Francisco's probably gonna be the one or the

2093
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:38,680
Speaker 5: two seed in the NFC. I don't like betting quarterback

2094
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 5: over for season long props because the trend says seven

2095
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 5: out of ten are staying under over the last four years.

2096
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 4: I'm on the both unders for a lot of the

2097
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:54,559
Speaker 4: same reasons. If you look at Brock pretty it's funny

2098
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:57,679
Speaker 4: like what's what's good in one way can be bad

2099
01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 4: in another, And a lot of it is the schedule,

2100
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:02,879
Speaker 4: like that can be good for Niners to win games,

2101
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:07,280
Speaker 4: but it's bad for brock Perty's individual numbers. Like Jared

2102
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 4: just said, you know gonna say the same thing is

2103
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 4: if you're leading and you're just trying to win the game,

2104
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:17,160
Speaker 4: you're not trying to pad purty stats or anything like.

2105
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 4: You might be running the ball, you might not, might

2106
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:21,679
Speaker 4: be trying to milk the clock more than score points.

2107
01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:24,759
Speaker 4: So that's going to impact his season long passing yards.

2108
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 4: Plus he's been banged up, he'll miss a game or two.

2109
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 4: He's done that the last two seasons, right, so it's

2110
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 4: possible he does that again this season where he's out

2111
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 4: for you know, a starter two is a big deal

2112
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 4: with your season long prop bets and no debo, probably

2113
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:44,679
Speaker 4: no I YUK to start the season. So I think

2114
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:46,679
Speaker 4: that's gonna hurt his numbers a little bit as well.

2115
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 4: So look, you could still have a really good season

2116
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 4: and be under thirty eight fifty passing yards and under

2117
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 4: twenty four and a half touchdown passes. You could still

2118
01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:58,639
Speaker 4: be good. It's just I take the under on those. Now,

2119
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:02,719
Speaker 4: how about another quarterback? So first things first, more wide

2120
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:07,719
Speaker 4: receivers in the news, So Xavier Worthy Chiefs wide receiver.

2121
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 4: He was on with k Adams and he talked about

2122
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 4: Andy Reid. He said, hey, have those ham strings ready?

2123
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:19,400
Speaker 4: Is what was Reid totals during OTA's Phase one. When

2124
01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 4: you come back, get your ham strings ready, and so

2125
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:28,599
Speaker 4: like kse was twenty seventh last season and passes over

2126
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 4: twenty plus yards downfield like they were one of the

2127
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 4: worst in the league. But think about the injuries to

2128
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 4: their wide receivers. Think about the offensive line that was

2129
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 4: always like moving around changing. All right, we got this

2130
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 4: left tackle, now we got that left tackle. It seems

2131
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 4: like they've been stabilized a bit with the draft pick

2132
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 4: and some free agency moves. So I think that having

2133
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:55,599
Speaker 4: Hollywood Brown back, having Rashie Rice back is a huge deal.

2134
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 4: From Mahomes numbers, So look at his season long prop bets.

2135
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 4: His passing yards number is forty fifty and a half. Right,

2136
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 4: it's a little over four thousand yards, touchdown passes twenty

2137
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 4: seven and a half. What do you think about those numbers?

2138
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 7: See, what's interesting is I'm more comfortable taking the under

2139
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:17,639
Speaker 7: with Mahomes on both.

2140
01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 6: Of those props than I was for Brock. And here's

2141
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 6: the reason why.

2142
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:24,680
Speaker 7: I understand that seven out of ten unders have hit

2143
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:29,599
Speaker 7: typically over the recent swap ears Jared as you referred

2144
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 7: back to.

2145
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 6: But think about the humans involved.

2146
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 7: Brock Purdy got this huge contract, He has a lot

2147
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:39,560
Speaker 7: to prove, and then whether it's a good season or

2148
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 7: a bad season for the forty nine ers. Good season

2149
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 7: probably because Brock's playing great football. Bad season, well, John

2150
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:49,680
Speaker 7: Lynch and Kyle Shanahan have to justify the money that

2151
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 7: Jed York just spent, so you better believe they're going

2152
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 7: to be featuring the pass in San Francisco. Whereas with

2153
01:48:56,240 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 7: the Chiefs it's a completely different dynamic. They don't have

2154
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 7: to force the football anywhere. With Patrick Mahomes. Everything's approven

2155
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:07,759
Speaker 7: quantity there. They just played in a Super Bowl. They lost,

2156
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 7: but they've won a few now for the organization, their

2157
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:16,719
Speaker 7: jobs are safe. So I'll be comfortable more comfortable taking

2158
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 7: Patrick Mahomes unders in this debate or conversation because if

2159
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:25,040
Speaker 7: they're winning football games by ground and pound and playing

2160
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:28,040
Speaker 7: great defense and not pushing the ball downfield like they've

2161
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:31,559
Speaker 7: struggled to do, not just last season, but basically since

2162
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 7: Tyreek Hills left, then I think they'll do that. They'll

2163
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:37,760
Speaker 7: just do business the way business is being done. So

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01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 7: I'll take the unders on that one.

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01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think the same rules apply, you know,

2166
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 5: we just talked about it. I mean, I think the

2167
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 5: blowout potential, like the Chiefs don't blow teams out but

2168
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:48,439
Speaker 5: we say that and latch they'll have like four blowouts

2169
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 5: this year. But the yeah, they'll blow out like the

2170
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 5: first Well watch them drop fifty week one and blow

2171
01:49:54,200 --> 01:50:00,600
Speaker 5: out everyone. There are fewer outs on a like you

2172
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 5: just you need more things to go right. There's more

2173
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:05,920
Speaker 5: things that can that can help you with an under,

2174
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 5: like we just talked about it with the Baseball props right,

2175
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,799
Speaker 5: like the pitchers today, like we just we we think

2176
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 5: that some of the managers are gonna be more conservative

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01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 5: with with these guys going into the break. So that's

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01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 5: an extra out that we already can put on the unders.

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01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 3: The same argument with Mahomes.

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01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 5: I think I think the Chiefs defense is better than

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01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 5: San Francisco's, and I think they're gonna be in a

2182
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 5: lot a lot of low scoring games, a lot of

2183
01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 5: high leverage games too, which when you're in a high

2184
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 5: leverage game, you could.

2185
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:35,640
Speaker 3: Care less how you win, just win. You know, it

2186
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:36,200
Speaker 3: doesn't matter.

2187
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 5: If Mahomes score or throws for four hundred or for forty.

2188
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 5: Did they win the game? Yes, it's a win. If

2189
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 5: you are looking to bet overs, I know people love

2190
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:46,120
Speaker 5: betting overs, Like.

2191
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:47,680
Speaker 3: Jared, You're such a grinch. All you want to do

2192
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:48,680
Speaker 3: is bet under under under.

2193
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:53,120
Speaker 5: There is a season long category with quarterbacks that I

2194
01:50:53,120 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 5: would recommend betting the over in. It's the rushing yards

2195
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 5: props of all of the categories, and Connor Allen does

2196
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:01,719
Speaker 5: a great job of this works for a fantasy football

2197
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 5: you know entity that does a lot of the tracking

2198
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 5: for the season long stuff, and he has a thread

2199
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 5: on this which details it fantastically. I totally recommend you

2200
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:14,200
Speaker 5: following him. He's a great follow out. Of all the

2201
01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:17,839
Speaker 5: categories he tracked twenty nine season long categories that he tracked.

2202
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:21,439
Speaker 5: The only category that has multi year profit on overs

2203
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:25,400
Speaker 5: is quarterback rushing yards at about fifty eight percent. So

2204
01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 5: if you want to bet over on a quarterback, look

2205
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 5: to the rushing yards category, right, A little bit of

2206
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 5: a contrarian view, Not the passing yards for the quarterback,

2207
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 5: the rushing yards. Those tend to be the most mispriced

2208
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 5: where you get upside to the over. So maybe Patrick

2209
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 5: Mahomes rushing yards season long. I'm interested in betting it over,

2210
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 5: but passing no.

2211
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 3: It's funny.

2212
01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:50,559
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is with me and my

2213
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 4: brother Rich Hornberger, We just our brains just work completely

2214
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:57,840
Speaker 4: differently on a lot not everything, but the last you know,

2215
01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 4: those like they'll put a picture in front of your

2216
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:04,400
Speaker 4: face and they're like, Okay, is that a pair.

2217
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:06,040
Speaker 6: Like the test? Yeah?

2218
01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 4: Or is it a ruler like Rich will say ruler.

2219
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:12,839
Speaker 4: I'll say it's clearly a pair. That's definitely frue.

2220
01:52:12,920 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 3: I know, is the sky?

2221
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 6: Can we get you two to.

2222
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 3: Agree on the edit?

2223
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:19,720
Speaker 4: I'm on both overs for Mahomes, like I'm on the

2224
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:22,559
Speaker 4: unders for Bertie. I'm on the overs for Mahomes. And listen,

2225
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 4: these both of them might split, might go over in

2226
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:26,920
Speaker 4: one category under in the other.

2227
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:28,320
Speaker 3: So we'll see how it works.

2228
01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:31,479
Speaker 4: But I look at Mahomes and listen real fast, not

2229
01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 4: every season. They don't work like building blocks, you know,

2230
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:38,120
Speaker 4: So it's dangerous to do that where you're like, okay,

2231
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 4: let's start with this fundamentally, Like Mahomes threw last year

2232
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 4: for thirty eight twenty eight, just a little over four

2233
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:48,760
Speaker 4: thousand yards, so let's start with that and then look

2234
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:52,680
Speaker 4: at what's different. Well, he's not guaranteed to start with that, right, Like,

2235
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 4: he could get hurt. There are any number of things

2236
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 4: that could change like that baseline number. But it's although

2237
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 4: it's day just to do that. Sometimes fundamentally, it can

2238
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:06,320
Speaker 4: make sense where I look at the Chiefs, They're still

2239
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:09,599
Speaker 4: gonna have a good defense. What's the biggest difference with them?

2240
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:13,160
Speaker 4: I think it's wide receiver health. Like when you have

2241
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:15,400
Speaker 4: Rashie Rice play three games.

2242
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:15,640
Speaker 3: And that's it.

2243
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 4: He was putting up huge numbers, huge numbers first three

2244
01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:21,600
Speaker 4: weeks and he's supposed to be back healthy. That's a

2245
01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:26,439
Speaker 4: huge deal to have Hollywood Brown, Rashie Rice and Xavier

2246
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 4: Worthy without this like exceptional running game and great running back.

2247
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 4: Isaiah Pacheco came back to Earth a little bit due

2248
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 4: to the injuries, and he didn't have the same juice

2249
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:40,720
Speaker 4: once he was back. So I think Mahomes I think

2250
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:43,320
Speaker 4: he's going over four thousand yards passing this season. That's

2251
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 4: how I see it. I mean two years ago he

2252
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 4: was at forty one, eighty three and twenty seven touchdown passes,

2253
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:53,760
Speaker 4: losing the Super Bowl, being highly doubted. I think there's

2254
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:58,559
Speaker 4: more than enough extra motivation for Mahomes. I like both

2255
01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 4: of his overs. I do I think that. I think

2256
01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:04,560
Speaker 4: the offense is going to be much better, and I

2257
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:07,599
Speaker 4: can't tell you there is no way if they have

2258
01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 4: better wide receiver health, they're twenty seventh in completions twenty

2259
01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 4: plus yards down the field. There's zero chance that's the

2260
01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:17,679
Speaker 4: case if they have better health, and I think they will,

2261
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:21,160
Speaker 4: so I'll take his overs there real fast. Before we

2262
01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 4: moved along, how about this, I wanted to mention the good,

2263
01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:27,439
Speaker 4: the bad, and the ugly from yesterday. In particular, how

2264
01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:30,760
Speaker 4: about the good cal Roley. Two more home runs for

2265
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 4: the big dumper, thirty eighth on the season is insanity.

2266
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 4: What a season this guy is having. The bad would

2267
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 4: be Caitlin Clark, at least for now, still ice cold

2268
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 4: from three. Listen to this, four for four for thirty

2269
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:50,600
Speaker 4: five in the last five games. That's the worst. It's

2270
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:54,080
Speaker 4: eleven percent. That's the worst five game span in WNBA history.

2271
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:57,720
Speaker 4: Now the fine print is minimum thirty five three point attempts.

2272
01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:00,880
Speaker 4: How many players are even three point shoot? He might not,

2273
01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 4: you know, hoist up thirty five and five games, but

2274
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 4: still ice cold, I think, real fast, like some of

2275
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 4: those misses, or when she was still hurt dealing with

2276
01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 4: the groin injury. So she hasn't forgotten how to shoot,

2277
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 4: but in a bad stretch right now. And the ugly,

2278
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 4: I would say is Paul Skeins he pitched well again

2279
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:23,400
Speaker 4: and doesn't earn a win. This dude's numbers since June first,

2280
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:26,040
Speaker 4: he's had eight starts. He has zero wins. His era

2281
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 4: is one seventy seven. He has zero wins in those

2282
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:33,880
Speaker 4: eight starts. Oh my god, it's a baseball crime what

2283
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:36,800
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh has done, not surrounding him by talent. But that's

2284
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:38,560
Speaker 4: what I say, quickly, is the good, the bad, new.

2285
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:42,040
Speaker 4: You gotta have it, need to sound it.

2286
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

2287
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 4: Also, you know what you gotta have, You gotta have

2288
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 4: a break, like Chris just said.

2289
01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 3: Got a break.

2290
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 4: All right, We've got Rich hon Berger, Penn State All American,

2291
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:57,800
Speaker 4: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm probably in no shortly

2292
01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:00,080
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01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:01,920
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01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:15,040
Speaker 3: All right.

2300
01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 4: Coming up next wrap bid Fire, which have three selections

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01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:23,320
Speaker 4: for you. We'll compare extensive, copious notes and try to

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01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:35,680
Speaker 4: Props to the crew, our trusted producer Bo Benson, the

2305
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 4: Dodgers Zone pod, our technical producer extraordinary Chris Purfet.

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01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:42,280
Speaker 3: And shout out to our guys.

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01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:53,480
Speaker 4: the top of the hour, we've got LeVar Arrington, TJ.

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01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 4: Hosch Manzada Plexico, Buris up on game less than ten

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01:56:57,320 --> 01:57:00,960
Speaker 4: minutes away here on Fox Sports Radio. Don't move a muscle.

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01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 4: They've got you covered. An we got some picks to make.

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01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:08,200
Speaker 1: Rapid fire.

2315
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:12,280
Speaker 3: All right, Jared, we start with you. Three picks for us.

2316
01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:12,680
Speaker 1: What do you get?

2317
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:16,600
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, yesterday the Reds lost to the Rockies. The

2318
01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 5: Rockies won a baseball game yesterday. And I know that

2319
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:21,440
Speaker 5: because I watched the game, because I bet the Reds,

2320
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:23,840
Speaker 5: and I was very upset that they lost the game

2321
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 5: to the lowly Rockies. So we're gonna bounce back today

2322
01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 5: with the Reds on the run line. And again, this

2323
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:31,320
Speaker 5: is not like the sexiest pitching matchup in the world,

2324
01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:33,640
Speaker 5: Brady Singer against some guy named Blaylock for Colorado.

2325
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:35,600
Speaker 3: But I'll bet on the bounce back.

2326
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:40,880
Speaker 4: I don't know why I got tickled me a guy

2327
01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:41,600
Speaker 4: named Alex.

2328
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:44,520
Speaker 5: It's not it's not a great pitching It's never a

2329
01:57:44,520 --> 01:57:45,920
Speaker 5: great pitching matchup for the Rockies.

2330
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:47,920
Speaker 3: For the Reds, it's average with Brady Singer.

2331
01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 5: But I think Reds bounce back today and they get

2332
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:53,600
Speaker 5: a nice dub and I'll go under in the first

2333
01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:56,520
Speaker 5: five under four runs in the first five.

2334
01:57:57,520 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 3: Between the Red Sox and the Rays.

2335
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:01,960
Speaker 5: I love this pitching match probably my favorite pitching matchup

2336
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 5: on the board today. Nurphy's a little pricey, so we'll

2337
01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 5: go under in the first five and make sure you

2338
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:07,480
Speaker 5: get that four.

2339
01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:08,440
Speaker 3: Three and a half still good.

2340
01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 5: You gotta find that four, and there are plenty of

2341
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:14,480
Speaker 5: fours out there, Baz Crochet. Great pitching matchup, fantastic pitching

2342
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:18,440
Speaker 5: matchup today between the Rays and the Rockies. And finally,

2343
01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:20,600
Speaker 5: what's one more? I've got so many on my card today.

2344
01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 5: A right, I'll give you Brewers. I'll give you Brewers

2345
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:24,200
Speaker 5: minus one and a half. We'll go run line Brewers

2346
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:26,520
Speaker 5: minus one and a half. Woodrif on the mountain today

2347
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:31,400
Speaker 5: again against some guy named Oga Sawara for Washington. So

2348
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 5: not exactly the sexiest pitching matchup for the Nats. So

2349
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:36,040
Speaker 5: we'll lean on Brandon Woodrift to have a good game.

2350
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:39,360
Speaker 5: So Brewers run line Red's run line minus one and

2351
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:42,640
Speaker 5: a half on both Tampa Bay Boston under four runs

2352
01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 5: in the first five.

2353
01:58:45,480 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 7: All right, all baseball for me today. Give me the

2354
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:50,240
Speaker 7: Cubbies getting spotted a run.

2355
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:52,120
Speaker 6: And a half on the run line in New York.

2356
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:55,080
Speaker 7: Yankees starter Max Freed got knocked around a little bit

2357
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:58,360
Speaker 7: in his last start against the Mets. Cups have one

2358
01:58:58,360 --> 01:59:02,160
Speaker 7: of the stronger offenses in MLB. Give me the Giants

2359
01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:04,600
Speaker 7: getting spotted a run and a half as well against

2360
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:09,960
Speaker 7: the Dodgers today. Otani on the mount basically means a bullpen.

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01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 6: Day for the Dodgers. They're continuing the show.

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01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 7: Hey back into his role as a starting pitcher, and

2363
01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:17,960
Speaker 7: I'll take the over seven and a half runs Philly's

2364
01:59:17,960 --> 01:59:21,080
Speaker 7: Padres game today. I've watched a lot of battles between

2365
01:59:21,120 --> 01:59:24,360
Speaker 7: these National League rivals. The bats show up when the

2366
01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:28,000
Speaker 7: finest city hosts the boys from the City of Brotherly Love.

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01:59:29,160 --> 01:59:33,840
Speaker 4: Okay, So I do love some in game summer league betting,

2368
01:59:33,880 --> 01:59:36,000
Speaker 4: but that does be no good for rapid fire. We

2369
01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:39,760
Speaker 4: can't do in game betting during There's what I'm gonna do.

2370
01:59:41,240 --> 01:59:44,680
Speaker 4: I'm going to use a team for a baseline leg

2371
01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:49,480
Speaker 4: on a two leg parlay. Okay, I'm using it at

2372
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 4: the base of all three of my selections here, so

2373
01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:55,320
Speaker 4: this can go great and I spell like a rose,

2374
01:59:55,360 --> 01:59:57,560
Speaker 4: this could go horribly bad.

2375
01:59:57,600 --> 01:59:58,839
Speaker 3: That's right, he's bold.

2376
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:03,120
Speaker 4: What am I honing in the consistent legue is the

2377
02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:08,800
Speaker 4: New Yorki Kay ten straight games, scoring five plus runs.

2378
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:11,120
Speaker 4: They're going up against Matthew Boyd. Just a good picture

2379
02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:13,760
Speaker 4: for the Cubs. Been tremendous at home, respectable on the

2380
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:16,560
Speaker 4: road as well. I'm gonna take the Yankees team total

2381
02:00:17,200 --> 02:00:20,160
Speaker 4: over two and a half runs, all right, it's minus

2382
02:00:20,160 --> 02:00:23,120
Speaker 4: three fifty. That's just the baseline my two leg parlay.

2383
02:00:23,640 --> 02:00:26,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna match that one with the Orioles to win

2384
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:30,440
Speaker 4: combine that's plus one ten. I'm gonna take that also

2385
02:00:30,680 --> 02:00:33,720
Speaker 4: with the Brewers to win combine both legs minus won

2386
02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:36,920
Speaker 4: twenty one. And finally, I'm gonna take Manny Machada, who

2387
02:00:36,920 --> 02:00:39,960
Speaker 4: has been red hot, your boy Machado over there Rich

2388
02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:40,760
Speaker 4: in San Diego.

2389
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:41,240
Speaker 3: He's been hot.

2390
02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:43,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take them to get at least one hit today.

2391
02:00:44,120 --> 02:00:47,000
Speaker 4: Combined with the Yankees, that's minus one twenty one, so

2392
02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:51,080
Speaker 4: all respectable juice gotta have the Yankees score three runs

2393
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:57,240
Speaker 4: or I'm over three. Enjoy Wimbledon and everything else you

2394
02:00:57,360 --> 02:00:58,400
Speaker 4: got going on today.

2395
02:00:58,480 --> 02:00:59,200
Speaker 3: We'll catch you soon.