Speaker 1: All from zimblanity.
Speaker 2: Hey, what's up?
Speaker 1: Hello?
Speaker 2: Hi?
Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Who is this? This is zimblanity, zimblanity. Have we spoken before, zimblanity?
Speaker 1: No, this is my first time.
Speaker 2: What's up, zimblanity? What's going on with you? I?
Speaker 1: I don't really know. I do wonder to myself why
Speaker 1: I have such an aversion to therapy that it's easier
Speaker 1: to call into a lizard?
Speaker 2: Okay, And in that wondering as to why you have
Speaker 2: such an aversion to therapy that you call a lizard?
Speaker 2: What sorts of observations have you made or conclusions have
Speaker 2: you inched towards.
Speaker 1: I think it's just anxiety, you know, But I don't
Speaker 1: know how to fix it, and I'm hoping that maybe
Speaker 1: you could do that for me.
Speaker 2: I cannot. I can't promise I can do anything for you,
Speaker 2: but I will try. I will talk with you about it.
Speaker 2: What are you anxious about?
Speaker 1: I mean everything, I'm like shaking on this phone call
Speaker 1: right now? Okay, that it's me nervous. I don't know what.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, how old are you?
Speaker 1: I'm thirty?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: You this way?
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. How long Have
Speaker 2: you been this this way? As you say, Uh, it's
Speaker 2: been years, man, were you Can you remember a time
Speaker 2: in your life when you were not this way whatever
Speaker 2: whatever this way means to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I really, I really cannot. It's uh.
Speaker 1: I've always been an anxious head. Now I'm an anxious,
Speaker 1: non binaried individual.
Speaker 2: All right, you're an anxious kid. Now you feel like
Speaker 2: you're an anxious adult.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've tried medications, meditations, they didn't really help.
Speaker 2: Okay, mm hmm. Well I'll ask you a few questions.
Speaker 2: Is there do you think your anxiety is rooted in
Speaker 2: the future or are you dwelling upon the past? Or
Speaker 2: is something about the present giving you anxiety?
Speaker 3: Where? Where?
Speaker 4: Where?
Speaker 2: Where is the anxiety? Or is the answer just all three?
Speaker 1: I mean it really would be all three. I mean
Speaker 1: I guess not the past, because I really just kind
Speaker 1: of I let I just let things go. Ah, But
Speaker 1: I'm constantly worried about a recently, if I'm going to
Speaker 1: finish my apprenticeship. I'm worried about my friends, what they
Speaker 1: think about me, if I'm doing right by them, if
Speaker 1: I'm a good dad, just all the things you have
Speaker 1: a kid, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Do hold your kid.
Speaker 1: She is eight eight eight, ts.
Speaker 2: Hey, wonderful. Do you have a significant other of some kinds?
Speaker 1: I do. I have my partner Drew. He's he's amazing,
Speaker 1: It's good.
Speaker 2: Okay okay, And is Drew like, did you guys do
Speaker 2: like an artificial insemination thing?
Speaker 1: So basically before I just that I was queer. I
Speaker 1: had been in a really abusive relationship for years. I
Speaker 1: did feel at some point that my only way out
Speaker 1: of this relationship was through my daughter, my now daughter.
Speaker 1: That's a whole bag worms.
Speaker 2: Your now daughter is. So was like you were in
Speaker 2: a relationship with somebody and that woman is that the
Speaker 2: mother of your daughter?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay? Is she in your life in any way, shape
Speaker 2: or form, or.
Speaker 1: We have like a shared parenting thing going through a
Speaker 1: custody whatever. Right now I'm trying to get full custody.
Speaker 1: It's not looking good. Ohio's a mother their state as
Speaker 1: they say.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, m okay. So how often do you get
Speaker 2: to see your daughter?
Speaker 1: It really just depends my ex is she thinks that
Speaker 1: like a long winded text messages with grammatically correct spelling
Speaker 1: is a legal document. So sometimes I get to see
Speaker 1: her every weekend and then sometimes I'm just sitting around
Speaker 1: hanging out and then I get a big text message
Speaker 1: at like two am that says, I, so and so
Speaker 1: no longer agree to our inherent parenting agreement and you
Speaker 1: won't be getting her these days. And that's not how
Speaker 1: that works. But going to court costs like a lot
Speaker 1: of money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what do you do.
Speaker 1: Right now? I am on disability because of the anxiety,
Speaker 1: and I am trying to do a piercing apprenticeship at
Speaker 1: a tattoo shop. Uh, And I hope that that works out.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping I can claw my way off of disability
Speaker 1: with the apprenticeship. But you know, we'll see m hm.
Speaker 2: And what does Drew do.
Speaker 1: Drew is a tattoo artist, he's an illustrator, he watches dogs.
Speaker 1: He he's really just kind of caught up in the
Speaker 1: gig economy right now.
Speaker 2: So all right, So, because you're on disability, I assume
Speaker 2: you at one point did have to go to a
Speaker 2: doctor or a psychiatrist or a therapist of some kinds
Speaker 2: and get like medically diagnosed with something. Is that is
Speaker 2: that true? What were you? What were youically diagnosed with?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: Just I was diagnosed with the severe anxiety, the severe depression. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is I mean, like I said, this is things
Speaker 1: have been happening like since I was a child, and
Speaker 1: it's like it is debilitating, like but I'm trying my best.
Speaker 2: Okay. Mmmm and have you and you said you, uh would,
Speaker 2: so tell me again why you feel more comfortable talking
Speaker 2: to me about all all these things instead of talking
Speaker 2: to an actual therapist.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. Something I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe something about the suit kind of takes the power away,
Speaker 1: the seriousness of it.
Speaker 2: But does it I mean, does it make it? I mean,
Speaker 2: this is a you know, uh uh. Other people are
Speaker 2: listening right now. Does that make you more anxious or
Speaker 2: less anxious? Do you not care about that?
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, those are just numbers on the screen.
Speaker 1: I know my friend is listening right now, Okay, and
Speaker 1: that makes me anxious because I know that they can
Speaker 1: hear me.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you wanted to talk regardless, so you but
Speaker 2: you still feel comfortable enough with them hearing you that
Speaker 2: you're doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've heard about these things before. I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: talked about these if it was a thing that I
Speaker 1: wasn't comfortable with them hearing specifically, but say like if
Speaker 1: somebody else you know, you know it figures out or
Speaker 1: you know, someone else in my life, that would probably
Speaker 1: cause anxiety. I don't want to feel like I'm like
Speaker 1: trauma dumping to my friends.
Speaker 2: Sure, okay, can you not afford to zero a real therapist?
Speaker 1: So since I'm on disability, I'm on the medicaid so sweet,
Speaker 1: I just started. Uh, I just got a new therapist
Speaker 1: last week. But it is uh, I don't know, like
Speaker 1: I've already opened up more to you than I had him,
Speaker 1: and uh, it's I don't know, it's I you know,
Speaker 1: there's like a fight flight freeze and fawn and I
Speaker 1: just like a freeze.
Speaker 2: Okay mm hm hmmmm. Well I uh, the doc and
Speaker 2: the doctors gave you medication and you tried that. They've
Speaker 2: probably told you to fucking do some kind of meditation
Speaker 2: thing and you tried that and nothing worked.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's uh, I'm doing medication right now. Uh, I
Speaker 1: don't feel it's working. I've honestly had more success. Uh.
Speaker 1: Which micro dosing?
Speaker 5: Uh mushrooms Oh cool, cool cool?
Speaker 2: Cool? Not that how did those make how did those
Speaker 2: make you feel?
Speaker 1: Honestly? My first time micro dosing the LSD. It blew
Speaker 1: my mind. I felt like I went from like some autistic,
Speaker 1: anxiety riddled person to.
Speaker 2: Just be an enormy Yeah. Yeah, you went from you
Speaker 2: went from four Chan to Pinterest.
Speaker 1: I really did. Yeah, I had this was my white
Speaker 1: girl summer.
Speaker 2: Nice? Nice, Okay, And then like, here's the thing with drugs.
Speaker 2: I thought about this. I thought about this last time
Speaker 2: my Tripp's rooms. Drugs are like that scene in the Breath.
Speaker 2: Drugs are like that scene in the Breakfast Club. Have
Speaker 2: you ever seen the movie with the Breakfast Club?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right, you know, so when you when you take
Speaker 2: mushrooms or LSD, you have that like, oh, I know,
Speaker 2: I have this epiphany and that epiphany and I feel
Speaker 2: this and I feel that and everything feels like it
Speaker 2: makes sense.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like that scene in the Breath. But it's
Speaker 2: like that scene in the Breakfast Club where the nerd
Speaker 2: you know, is talking to all the other people and
Speaker 2: he's like, so Monday morning, are we still going to
Speaker 2: be friends? Did any of this matter?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: So sober you right now talking to me, have you
Speaker 2: retained any of those epiphanies? Did any of them matter
Speaker 2: or affect life? After the trip.
Speaker 1: I mean in ways, yeah, because I feel like it
Speaker 1: lowered my defenses or gave me the courage or whatever
Speaker 1: to take steps towards bettering myself and bettering like my life.
Speaker 1: I was micro dosing when I was able to, like
Speaker 1: ask my friend for a pearing apprenticeship, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm really putting my eggs in this basket because I'm
Speaker 1: hoping to start making money and be able to save
Speaker 1: and stuff. I wouldn't have been able to put foot forward
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for like the strength the wall or
Speaker 1: whatever the micro dosing gave to me.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's great, that's good. So you're on a how
Speaker 2: long ago was that that you were trying out this
Speaker 2: and doing all these things.
Speaker 1: I mean I've been microsing for like a year now.
Speaker 5: I think, all right.
Speaker 2: It is your life better today than it was a
Speaker 2: year ago, for sure. Fantastic. Okay, you're on an upwards trajectory.
Speaker 2: You're a you're a positive stuff, I hope. So yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I think I think I think you are. Mm hmmmmmmmmmmm.
Speaker 2: All right. So you're you're in a piercing apprentice, yes, okay,
Speaker 2: and you what's you in your in your anxiety riddled brain.
Speaker 2: What is the anxiety over the over the piercing apprentice?
Speaker 1: Uh, it's honestly, it's just I don't know, it's it's
Speaker 1: a bunch of Uh, it's just drama. It's like everybody's
Speaker 1: mad at this person. That person's mad at this person.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna get swept under the rug
Speaker 1: speak of these things.
Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, I I you said I when you you
Speaker 3: said it's funny, you said I shouldn't be this.
Speaker 2: Way at thirty. I don't think thirty is too old.
Speaker 2: Thirty is not too old to have anxiety by any means,
Speaker 2: but it's it's too old to engage it, to engage
Speaker 2: in drama in any way, shape or form. Maybe I
Speaker 2: wouldn't say, I don't want to put an age thing
Speaker 2: to it at all, but but you shouldn't be Why
Speaker 2: why in what way are you engaging in this drama?
Speaker 1: So I'm not engaging in it. So basically, my mentor
Speaker 1: you know, shows up late, stuff like that, her car
Speaker 1: breaks down, people get upset with her. I feel like
Speaker 1: maybe there's some residual upsetness aimed at her that's being
Speaker 1: placed on me because I'm an apprentice. I feel like
Speaker 1: maybe there' not taking me seriously or they feel that
Speaker 1: I'm not serious about it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to engage in drama. I just uh,
Speaker 1: I know, drama happens, and like sometimes it boils down
Speaker 1: to like playing sides of the fence, and I just,
Speaker 1: you know, I just want everybody to get along and
Speaker 1: have a nice time.
Speaker 2: What's the version of this that involves you spending one
Speaker 2: hundred percent of your time dedicated to just learning how
Speaker 2: to get better at your piercing and tattooing. I'm not
Speaker 2: thinking about anything outside of that.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know, I don't know what the
Speaker 1: uh I'm trying. I'm trying my best.
Speaker 2: To okay, do that as it is. Okay, good, good, Okay.
Speaker 2: You're trying your best to focus on how you can
Speaker 2: just do the job instead of instead of worrying about,
Speaker 2: you know, what the hell's going on between your mentor
Speaker 2: and the the other person and then what else do
Speaker 2: you have this crazy ex wife scenario. I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 2: That's really really, really tough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you have a white trash.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's all right, that's all right. You're worried about
Speaker 2: you're worrying about it whether or not you were a
Speaker 2: good father? Yeah, why are you worried about that?
Speaker 1: I feel like because of like the optimum, because of
Speaker 1: the anxiety, the depression. I feel like there are people
Speaker 1: in my life, like and that are also in her
Speaker 1: life that like infantilize me when it comes to like
Speaker 1: being a father, and they I just I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm constantly just like questioned on whether or not I'm
Speaker 1: able to do this.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is what does that have to I
Speaker 2: hope this question makes sense? But what does that have
Speaker 2: to do with you?
Speaker 1: So like.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll try what I What I mean by what
Speaker 2: I mean by that is is you're wondering whether or
Speaker 2: not you're a I asked you why you think you're
Speaker 2: not a good father, and you were talking about you
Speaker 2: responded by talking about other people's opinions of you and
Speaker 2: the way that other people are treating you, which you know,
Speaker 2: but but I want to, like, I want to hear
Speaker 2: about what you think about yourself, not like what other
Speaker 2: people think about you as a father. But what do
Speaker 2: you is it are those opinions getting to you through
Speaker 2: to you and now you're kind of infantilizing yourself.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe. I mean, like, you know, you hear
Speaker 1: things about yourself so much that like eventually you start
Speaker 1: to believe it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So like.
Speaker 1: I I think, I think I'm just doing my best
Speaker 1: and that's all you can do. But like I'm great
Speaker 1: worried if that enough?
Speaker 2: Great? So so if you think you're so, I take
Speaker 2: take the external. If you think you're doing the best
Speaker 2: that you can do to be a father, then why
Speaker 2: why are you anxious about whether or not you're a
Speaker 2: good father just because other people are treating you like
Speaker 2: a baby because you have autism?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I you know, it's also like we
Speaker 1: the only course right now. So I recently had to
Speaker 1: get a guardian ad litem for the custody battle thing.
Speaker 1: And it's basically a lawyer who comes and visits both
Speaker 1: houses and determines which parents is better for like the
Speaker 1: child's well being.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: You know, like my house, it's just me in a
Speaker 1: two bedroom apartment, It's just me and my daughter. And
Speaker 1: at her mother's house, there's like fifteen people in this house,
Speaker 1: one of the guys a known predator. She's got my
Speaker 1: daughter and like four other kids living in an unfinished basement,
Speaker 1: and like the guardian came to both our houses and
Speaker 1: then like decided that like my place wouldn't be h
Speaker 1: h suitable to raise the child here because my house
Speaker 1: was disorganized.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I I I obviously you know we're not
Speaker 2: gonna be able to like fix every thing or anything.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this conversation has been remotely helpful
Speaker 2: for you, but at least in terms of like just
Speaker 2: just to start off just as like a foundation of something,
Speaker 2: at least in terms of like what you can and
Speaker 2: cannot control in this situation. I hope that you take
Speaker 2: control of like your own perspective on yourself and wrestle
Speaker 2: it away from this idea that you're a bad father
Speaker 2: because you're trying your best, and you know you're trying
Speaker 2: your best. You said it yourself, so yeah, don't. I
Speaker 2: just I hope you're not torturing yourself in that way
Speaker 2: and that you maintain and you know that you are
Speaker 2: a good father because you're trying your best, and even
Speaker 2: these things that are you know that you didn't choose
Speaker 2: that are you know, like depression and anxiety. You know,
Speaker 2: you're You're not a bad father because you have depression anxiety.
Speaker 2: You're a good father because you're fighting against those things
Speaker 2: with active effort, because you care and that's the most
Speaker 2: important things that you care and you're trying. So I
Speaker 2: hope you understand that and then you're not you know,
Speaker 2: suffering more in your own brain internally on top of
Speaker 2: the external suffering. Does any of that make sense or
Speaker 2: resonate with you in any way, shape.
Speaker 1: Or for him? Yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 2: Okay. Do you have any thoughts about any of that?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean I'm trying that. That lists
Speaker 1: why I like the court and stuff is you know,
Speaker 1: we're I'm going through with that and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I've done all that I could do, and I'm doing
Speaker 1: all that I could do. I just hope that, like
Speaker 1: when my daughter gets older, she sees that mmm.
Speaker 2: Mmm do you I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Is there any other aspect of of this that you
Speaker 2: wanted to talk about specifically?
Speaker 5: No? I think I'm good.
Speaker 2: Was was this was this helpful in any way, shape
Speaker 2: or form for your life?
Speaker 1: I I hope So, I mean, uh, this was like,
Speaker 1: you know it. Uh, I had a lot of anxiety
Speaker 1: about making this call and the fact that I did, like,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, and I didn't just like hang up.
Speaker 5: You know, that's okay.
Speaker 1: I'm impressed with myself over there.
Speaker 2: Give you give yourself some fucking credit. That's the that's
Speaker 2: that's that's the thing. Give yourself some credit. I just dude,
Speaker 2: if you take one thing away from this call, I
Speaker 2: just hope you give yourself some credit because you're fighting again.
Speaker 2: You have all these like things that you're fighting against internally,
Speaker 2: but you're fighting against them, right, you have. You have
Speaker 2: debilitating anxiety, but yet you picked up the phone and
Speaker 2: you called or you know, you you you didn't just
Speaker 2: sit around and succumb to your issues. You know, even
Speaker 2: if even if there are some or most days that
Speaker 2: you do, you know you you tried. And I hope
Speaker 2: you look at evidence that exists that you tried your best,
Speaker 2: and I hope you'd internalize it because you know, the
Speaker 2: stories that we fucking tell ourselves and they're important. What's
Speaker 2: your name again, zimblanity? Zimblanity? Did you pick that name
Speaker 2: for yourself?
Speaker 1: I did pick that name?
Speaker 2: What does that mean? What is that from.
Speaker 1: Uh So, zimblanity is the opposite of serendipity.
Speaker 2: I do you know what. I totally thought that was
Speaker 2: just a word that you made up. No, zimblanity. It's
Speaker 2: the opposite of security, of serendipity. It's the opposite of serendipity. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So what define serendipity for me?
Speaker 1: Uh So, serendipity is like, you know, like a wonderful thing.
Speaker 1: Uh It's like a stroke of genius, like a muse,
Speaker 1: you know, like, and zimblanity is like something that's unwanted
Speaker 1: but inevitable, like a grandma dying.
Speaker 2: Why did you name yourself that?
Speaker 1: I just thought it sounded pretty. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't mean to make fun of your the
Speaker 2: name that you chose for yourself, but I just it
Speaker 2: sounds negative.
Speaker 1: No, I yeah, yeah, it sounds negative. But like I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I like to. I just I thought it
Speaker 1: sounded pretty. I'd like to I'd like for people to
Speaker 1: hear that and then think of something positive. I think,
Speaker 1: I think, uh, the people who are in my life
Speaker 1: here zimblanity, and you know, think of me and the
Speaker 1: good good stuff we good times we have together.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right. So you're you're taking you're taking zimblanity back.
Speaker 2: You're you're flipping it. Yeah, you're making You're you're making it.
Speaker 2: You're making zimblanity into serenity. Yes, all right, I respect
Speaker 2: that as I planning anything else you want to say
Speaker 2: to the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been reading the chat as we've been having
Speaker 1: this talk. This chat is wonderful. If it's okay, I'd
Speaker 1: like to give a shout out to my friend.
Speaker 2: If that's fine, yeah's who's your friend?
Speaker 1: My friend is Cat Bogart. Could I plug their Instagram?
Speaker 1: Or is that?
Speaker 2: Do they want you to plug their Instagram because a
Speaker 2: bunch of people might send them links to weird bitcoin
Speaker 2: addresses and shit, I.
Speaker 1: Mean they would probably appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Oh, what do they do? What's the Instagram?
Speaker 1: They're a tattoo artist, so it's their professional page. All right, sir,
Speaker 1: h it's Cat Bogart. Their page is Cat Bogart, Inc.
Speaker 1: They are an amazing person. They're my favorite artist. There's
Speaker 1: all around a good being.
Speaker 2: Do you know this person?
Speaker 1: I do?
Speaker 2: It's Kat with a K Okay, all right, well we'll
Speaker 2: check them out. Well, the thing is I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's your thing. It's like all right, well you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, we'll check that out. Well we can. People
Speaker 2: will someone will go on Instagram and look at it
Speaker 2: and go like that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody added it in the chat.
Speaker 2: Well z have a good rest of your of your day.
Speaker 1: Thank you, man. I do feel that this helped.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, thanks man. I appreciate that. I'm glad. Huh,
Speaker 2: take care z you too. All right, doing some trying,
Speaker 2: doing some real therapy, therapy, gecko, trying our best. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was those is interesting. That was interesting. I'm dude,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Sometimes I really with that whole thing
Speaker 2: of like I want to I I'm off and on
Speaker 2: about the whole thing of like I want to call
Speaker 2: you because I don't I can't call a real therapist.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 2: There's definitely there's lots of days and times where that
Speaker 2: makes me uncomfortable. But there's also like a lot of
Speaker 2: days and times where I'm like, you know what, let
Speaker 2: me give it a try. Fuck it, why not let
Speaker 2: me give it a try. Let's dive in fuck it something.
Speaker 2: I do. I feel that way. I feel that way
Speaker 2: when I get really sad. When I get really like
Speaker 2: if I'm walking into this thing and I'm and I'm
Speaker 2: sad myself, I'm like, oh, you got like a real serious, sad,
Speaker 2: dire thing. Yes, you know, let's talk about it, let's
Speaker 2: get into yours. You know, I feel more so, And
Speaker 2: then I feel I feel confident. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 2: maybe I can you know, do do something, you know,
Speaker 2: try to. But then there's a lot of times where
Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck, man, I just I just I don't
Speaker 2: know what the fuck I signed up for. But that
Speaker 2: that that didn't feel like that, I didn't feel like that.
Speaker 2: I liked, I liked talking to Ze. But you know,
Speaker 2: next next time, we'll do more diarrhea stuff. Haven't had
Speaker 2: haven't had diarrhea stuff in a while actually, And to
Speaker 2: be I look, to be honest, if my if I
Speaker 2: had to choose between a podcast of all diarrhea stuff
Speaker 2: and all heavy stories, I'd go with the heavy stories
Speaker 2: because I can only do so much diarrhea. So I
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm just I'm just being a gecko and
Speaker 2: doing a podcast. Ah sweet.
Speaker 1: All from Nicolas.
Speaker 5: Hello, Hey, what what's up?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 5: Am I on the show?
Speaker 2: You're on the show. What's up?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 2: What's your name?
Speaker 5: Oh man, I'm Nick. That's crazy. How are you doing, Nick.
Speaker 2: I'm doing I'm doing okay, I'm hanging in there. What's
Speaker 2: going on with you?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, this is crazy. I'm I'm chilling with
Speaker 5: my my like my two friends on Discord and I
Speaker 5: just started watching the stream and I was like, oh man,
Speaker 5: we like, we shall call and uh we were like, no,
Speaker 5: we're not gonna call this, so we like we didn't
Speaker 5: really watch too much of the show. I mean, I'm
Speaker 5: a big fan, but my my friend doesn't watch We're
Speaker 5: gonna call it. But uh my, dude, I'm like super stone,
Speaker 5: but I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: No, that's okay. I was a little I was a
Speaker 2: little stoned earlier. I was actually actually right before, I
Speaker 2: never dude, all right, I'll just I gotta be honest
Speaker 2: with you guys. I never do this, And I talk
Speaker 2: about how I never do this. I can't talk about
Speaker 2: how I never do it anymore because I started not
Speaker 2: doing it all the time. But like I've had a
Speaker 2: couple I've done a couple of these recording sessions, like
Speaker 2: the past two of them. I was like, I was like,
Speaker 2: fuck it, let me uh, and again it's been three years.
Speaker 2: I never do this, but I was like, fuck it,
Speaker 2: let me just get high and taught and uh and
Speaker 2: just do the stream. And I did it high and
Speaker 2: I had a great time. I was like, I was
Speaker 2: up for like five hours fucking talking to people and
Speaker 2: it was great, which, by the way, is the worst
Speaker 2: thing that could possibly happen, because do you know what
Speaker 2: happens if you don't You know what happens if you
Speaker 2: live stream yourself as a gecko talking to people sober
Speaker 2: for three years and then you do it high once
Speaker 2: and it goes, well, do you know what happens? Nick?
Speaker 5: I think you might turn into a gecko.
Speaker 2: You that's a that's that's a good one. I like that.
Speaker 2: But what happens is you go, oh, that was so good.
Speaker 2: That was so great. You know what I should do?
Speaker 2: I should get high every time I go to record
Speaker 2: by show and then and so this is this is
Speaker 2: high recording session number two I got I have. We're
Speaker 2: We're about two hours into this though, so I'm I'm
Speaker 2: kind of on like this. The come down from weed
Speaker 2: is pretty bad. That's what I'm on right now. I
Speaker 2: actually thought, for a second, I'm looking at my little
Speaker 2: vate pen right now, and I thought for a second
Speaker 2: about hitting it before talking to you. So then you're
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you're stone. And I could have
Speaker 2: been like, oh, I'm stone too, what's up man?
Speaker 5: But hey man, it's not too late to hit that
Speaker 5: blinker ah.
Speaker 2: I don't know. You don't want to make it a habit,
Speaker 2: right because then I'm gonna start. I just I've been
Speaker 2: getting high too much. I've been crossing boundaries that I
Speaker 2: had said. I I had set certain boundaries of like, oh,
Speaker 2: I won't do it this day and or I won't
Speaker 2: I won't do it you know in the mornings, or
Speaker 2: you know when I have this to do or that
Speaker 2: to do. But I've started crossing these boundaries. It's hard
Speaker 2: because what I want so badly, I want to be
Speaker 2: fuck seth Rogen talks about how he like will get
Speaker 2: high and go into these like multi million dollar movie
Speaker 2: pitches and stuff like that. I've I've I think I've
Speaker 2: told this story. I've probably told the story of the
Speaker 2: podcast before. But I had a friend. I was hanging
Speaker 2: off with my friend's brother. I was like, we were
Speaker 2: visiting him in New York and he's like he was
Speaker 2: like trying to be an actor. And he was in
Speaker 2: New York, like auditioning, and he was telling us about
Speaker 2: this audition he was going to, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is a huge part. You know, if I booked
Speaker 2: this commercial, it's gonna be gonna be a ton of money,
Speaker 2: and it's like really important and this is this is
Speaker 2: like a dream gig, and I really really hope I
Speaker 2: get it. And then right before he leaves to this
Speaker 2: audition that he's talking about how important it is, he
Speaker 2: just takes the biggest bong rip I've ever seen and
Speaker 2: he walks out the door to this fucking audition, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I wish I could do that so badly.
Speaker 2: I wish I wish I could like just smoke weed
Speaker 2: like it was nothing, and it just made my life
Speaker 2: easy and fun all the time. And and it's like
Speaker 2: a roll of the dice man, because like like last you know,
Speaker 2: the other night, when I did when I did this
Speaker 2: stream High, it was great. It was it was a
Speaker 2: great five hours and it did do that. It did
Speaker 2: what I always wanted to do, just make things feel
Speaker 2: a little more easy and fun. But it doesn't always
Speaker 2: do that. It doesn't always do that. You can't always
Speaker 2: count on it doing that every single time, because if
Speaker 2: you do, then you'll run into so many times where
Speaker 2: I'll think it's going to do that, and then about
Speaker 2: a minute once it starts really kicking, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: why the fuck did I just get high before we
Speaker 2: go to the grocery store. That was a stupid idea,
Speaker 2: And now I'm walking around the grocery store forgetting why
Speaker 2: I came in and thinking about my life, and it
Speaker 2: was just stupid. So I do it because I want
Speaker 2: to be like my friend's brother. I want to have
Speaker 2: we just be like a thing that makes my life better.
Speaker 2: But it's too too much of a gamble. Has being
Speaker 2: stoned helped you enjoy my rambling at all? Or has
Speaker 2: it made it worse?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: It's made it so much better. I feel like I
Speaker 5: can understand with you you're rambling because I'm on like
Speaker 5: a similar wavelength right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel nervous about you? Do you
Speaker 2: feel anxious or paranoid that you sound stupid?
Speaker 5: No, dude, I'm stupid.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Are you still on discord with your friends?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I'm on discord with my friends right now. I just
Speaker 5: stepped away from the computer so I can hear.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, I I was hoping you weren't still trying.
Speaker 2: I guess having a conversation with them and me that
Speaker 2: would that would be stupid. Well, all right, Nicholas, Nick, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's Nick, dude. It's okay. If there's not we can
Speaker 2: just keep we can just sit in silence. I don't care.
Speaker 5: Hey do you play this? Do you play any video games?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I play video games. I don't. I don't play
Speaker 2: like like Valorant or any of like the online ship.
Speaker 5: Have you heard of Dark and Darker?
Speaker 2: Nope?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, you have to play Dark and Darker?
Speaker 2: Is it on the Nintendo Switch?
Speaker 5: Unfortunately not.
Speaker 2: I am never ever ever going to play.
Speaker 5: Oh man, it's the worst game I ever made, but
Speaker 5: it's amazing.
Speaker 2: All right, Well you're really selling it? Was that what
Speaker 2: you want?
Speaker 3: I was?
Speaker 2: I was gonna say it before I uh whatever? Was
Speaker 2: there anything in particular you called in you want to
Speaker 2: talk about?
Speaker 5: It's no, not exactly, but I could you know, I
Speaker 5: can talk to you about how much I like, love
Speaker 5: and hate this one game, Dark and Darker. It's very new,
Speaker 5: like early access games.
Speaker 2: What other what other games do you play?
Speaker 5: I play other games I hate, like Rust.
Speaker 2: Why do you Why do you play so many games
Speaker 2: that you hate?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: Because it's a because there's there's like a I played
Speaker 5: survival games and so it's just it's you and me.
Speaker 5: It's me and my my bes friend, and we play
Speaker 5: these games together and it's us against the whole world,
Speaker 5: the whole. In Rust, it's this one game we play
Speaker 5: quite often. It's you have to Like you start off
Speaker 5: and you're on like in this island, and you have
Speaker 5: a rock and you're naked, your dick is out and
Speaker 5: your your balls are out and uh, and everyone else
Speaker 5: around you is like the same way. And you have
Speaker 5: to build a like a base, and then you get
Speaker 5: like guns and you like shoot people and you take
Speaker 5: their bases and you blow into their bases and take
Speaker 5: all their ship and the entire time they're off, they're
Speaker 5: like they're trying to blow into your base and they're
Speaker 5: screaming at you that you know they're gonna get on
Speaker 5: the on the game when you're offline and take your stuff,
Speaker 5: so you can't sleep, you know.
Speaker 2: That's but so much that sounds like so much fun
Speaker 2: playing that game with your friends. That sounds like so
Speaker 2: much fucking fun. Damn, I wish I haven't played like
Speaker 2: I haven't really played games online with my friends. I
Speaker 2: really haven't done that since middle school or like early
Speaker 2: high school. I haven't done that in a decade, over
Speaker 2: a decade. It's fun, man, it's fun. I mean, I'll
Speaker 2: play like, I play like, I'll play land Ship, you know,
Speaker 2: play some Mario Kart play. I played a ton of
Speaker 2: Super Smash Bros. Melee in high school, in college, in
Speaker 2: a little bit after college. But uh, I haven't played
Speaker 2: online in a while. That sounds so much fun. How
Speaker 2: old are you? Are you in college right now?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 6: No, right now?
Speaker 5: I'm not in college and I'm twenty two.
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you What do you do with your life?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 5: I I make music and I work at pizza place.
Speaker 2: You make music and you work at a pizza place.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is the pizza any good?
Speaker 5: No, it's pizza over.
Speaker 2: What's it called? What's the pizza place?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it a chain? Is it a chain?
Speaker 1: It a chain?
Speaker 5: No, it's not a big change.
Speaker 2: Well you don't chain, all right, you don't have to.
Speaker 2: You don't have to put them blast.
Speaker 5: But it's it has to do with new York. But
Speaker 5: it's it's not it's not very good. But I mean
Speaker 5: it's good when I get it for free. But besides that, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's pretty bad.
Speaker 2: It's hard to fuck up pizza.
Speaker 5: I disagree up pizza. I've sucked up a lot of pizzas.
Speaker 1: Yet.
Speaker 2: Do you do you deliver pizzas or do you make
Speaker 2: the pizzas?
Speaker 5: I cut the pizza?
Speaker 2: All right, so you are in you you you have
Speaker 2: you fucked up a lot of pizzas cutting them stupidly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, like, and it's not even this, like sometimes
Speaker 5: I just forget to cut them.
Speaker 2: You pizza cut them?
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you know, let me ask you a.
Speaker 2: Question before you answer the Because do you get high
Speaker 2: at work?
Speaker 5: I get high before work, and then I get high
Speaker 5: after work.
Speaker 2: That's the That's that's the most hilarious way of No,
Speaker 2: I don't get high at work. I get high before work.
Speaker 6: It's different, Yeah, because then I get to experience the
Speaker 6: like that calm down, and then gradually I feel like
Speaker 6: I get better and better at my job.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't I I I'm going to challenge you.
Speaker 2: I don't think weed is making you better at your job.
Speaker 2: It might make your job better for you. Oh, okay,
Speaker 2: you're getting better, You're getting more sober as the night progresses.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so then I get better and better. So at
Speaker 5: the end of the night, I close and I'm just
Speaker 5: like hyper aware.
Speaker 2: M Okay, you're twenty two. You like to get high.
Speaker 2: You work at a pizza place. Uh, there's a there's
Speaker 2: a really funny Onion article that says something like everyone
Speaker 2: involved in the manufacturing, delivery, and consumption of pizza extremely high.
Speaker 2: Uh it was funny anyway, all right, so whatever, see
Speaker 2: you working a pizza place, you get high, you play
Speaker 2: video games with your friends, that kind of That sounds awesome. Honestly,
Speaker 2: it sounds pretty cool. Do you have higher aspirations or
Speaker 2: are you set?
Speaker 5: I really really want to play music for people.
Speaker 2: Okay, what kind of music do you make?
Speaker 5: H I like I like me. I really like jazz.
Speaker 5: I really love jazz, and I really love indie music.
Speaker 5: And I just want to make music that is very
Speaker 5: personal to myself. And I mean, I just love music
Speaker 5: very much. It's it's always been an escape for me.
Speaker 5: So I don't know, I just want to make music
Speaker 5: that is solely me and it's what I just create,
Speaker 5: what I only I can create because I think that
Speaker 5: it's I'm you know, I know there's so many other artists,
Speaker 5: but I'm still myself and only I can say I
Speaker 5: only I can make music. I can make and just
Speaker 5: want to make my jazz indie music.
Speaker 2: That's a beautiful way of thinking about it. Making only
Speaker 2: what you can make. That's really how you should make stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so beautiful love music.
Speaker 2: That's cool. I like that you can make music from
Speaker 2: the unique perspective of a guy who likes to get
Speaker 2: high and play video games. No, I'm just talking with you.
Speaker 2: What perspective do you make the music from?
Speaker 5: I guess I think about music like my I look
Speaker 5: at the perspective I take is I try to see
Speaker 5: the full image of something, of a completed idea in
Speaker 5: my head, and then I try to break it down
Speaker 5: into its smaller individual parts and try to achieve achieve
Speaker 5: the idea I had in my head.
Speaker 2: Who do you like?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: I really like Parker, Charlie Parker. Okay, I really liked
Speaker 2: Miles Davis. Miles all right, I like Miles I was.
Speaker 2: I don't know who Charlie Parker is, but I listened
Speaker 2: to a lot of Miles Davis.
Speaker 7: Oh, he's me.
Speaker 5: He was so awesome. I was listening to he just
Speaker 5: had a new remastered album coming. I mean, like, well,
Speaker 5: he's dead, but they remastered. I like one of his
Speaker 5: sessions not too long ago, and I've been listening to
Speaker 5: it and it's super amazing. It's called a thing move.
Speaker 5: It's amazing.
Speaker 2: Nice. Nice.
Speaker 5: Oh no, it's some time around. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: Do you post ship? Do you make TikTok and whatever?
Speaker 1: Do you do?
Speaker 2: You do you put things on the internet?
Speaker 5: No? I don't. I think that's my problem.
Speaker 2: Are you nervous?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I do get nervous about it, but I try. I'm
Speaker 5: trying to break out of my shelf.
Speaker 2: Are you nervous that the the twelve year old boys
Speaker 2: that you're gunning down in this video game are gonna
Speaker 2: find out that you make music and mass like one
Speaker 2: starret on whatever streaming service you put it on.
Speaker 5: Now, I am m hmmmmm.
Speaker 2: See you're nervous. Wise it like I think I'm being perceived.
Speaker 2: Not exactly, Okay, So what's the issue.
Speaker 5: I think it's just I've been working on getting to
Speaker 5: a level that is, I guess good enough in my head,
Speaker 5: but I think that just keeps getting to a higher standard.
Speaker 5: And then uh, and then I put I used to
Speaker 5: put myself down a lot, but I've tried to how
Speaker 5: do you say, like, calm that down, which I have,
Speaker 5: And now I've I feel a lot more comfortable. And uh,
Speaker 5: I've been a little bit more active in making music lately,
Speaker 5: you know, I've been trying to. I've been creating more
Speaker 5: songs and and uh really practicing more and playing and
Speaker 5: getting on ableton and just and starting something a lot
Speaker 5: more often then I haven't you like met with like
Speaker 5: thinking about it, which isn't so hard on myself.
Speaker 2: Are you enjoying the process?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: I love it?
Speaker 2: Now? Ah okay, well let me do it. You'll be fine.
Speaker 2: You'll be fine. You'll be You'll be better you you
Speaker 2: making music in your room and showing it to no
Speaker 2: one and enjoying doing that, You'll be happier than somebody
Speaker 2: who's like, uh, just I don't know, trying to go
Speaker 2: trying to get TikTok famous for the sake of getting
Speaker 2: TikTok famous. You know what I'm saying. So you're fine,
Speaker 2: You're gonna have a great life. I think, uh, I
Speaker 2: think I think you got it going on. Do you
Speaker 2: do you feel that way? Uh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do think so. I know. I have amazing
Speaker 5: people in my life. But my best friends are are
Speaker 5: listening to the show right now, and man, I love
Speaker 5: them so much. They're awesome.
Speaker 2: That's cool. Man, You're gonna get back there and they're
Speaker 2: all gonna call you gay for saying that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they call me gay already. They're probably only gay
Speaker 5: this second.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's fair. Uh well, Nick.
Speaker 1: So wild?
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you wanted to to say before
Speaker 2: we get out of here?
Speaker 5: I hope you hit that blinker?
Speaker 2: What is that meme? Why have I been seeing that
Speaker 2: a rounds.
Speaker 5: All because of blinkers? When you hit your vappen and
Speaker 5: you hit it until the vappen blinks because it just
Speaker 5: can't get it just can't power anymore.
Speaker 2: Never been long. I don't want to do that. It
Speaker 2: sounds it sounds like too much.
Speaker 5: It is too much.
Speaker 2: But okay, thanks for explaining what that means. I was
Speaker 2: wonder what that meant. You hit? You do whatever with
Speaker 2: your life? Hey, how do I get free pizza from you?
Speaker 5: Uh? Dude, I don't even get free pizza, Like, I
Speaker 5: barely get free pizza. So I mean you can you
Speaker 5: can get them.
Speaker 2: You don't have to. You don't have to actually get
Speaker 2: me an answer to that question, Nick, thank you very
Speaker 2: much for calling ghak Bless you and enjoy God, enjoy
Speaker 2: your life. I'm jealous of you. You get to eat pizza
Speaker 2: and get high, and well, I guess I can do
Speaker 2: that too, all right. In fact, I'm gonna actually go
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 5: I hope you enjoy that. Thank you. Thank you for
Speaker 5: having me on. I really really I love your show.
Speaker 5: You You're my favorite streamer. I listened to like every
Speaker 5: single one of your episodes. Oh yeah, you know, like
Speaker 5: your your show is amazing.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 5: What you do for people is just awesome. You know,
Speaker 5: the things you have on really give me different perspectives.
Speaker 5: And you know, after watching your show, I think about
Speaker 5: some things you know, very like how do you say
Speaker 5: very like niche topics very differently and openly. And I
Speaker 5: really appreciate your show for that.
Speaker 2: Thanks man, that makes me feel very happy to hear.
Speaker 2: I'm always wondering if people are listening to this, so
Speaker 2: I I I appreciate it, man, I really do. Good
Speaker 2: luck good luck to you, good luck to in your life. Damn,
Speaker 2: I'm fucking awkward. I wish I had a better I
Speaker 2: really do appreciate you saying what you said, and I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 2: what's the best most gracious way to respond to you.
Speaker 2: You know what you can say?
Speaker 5: You can say ya?
Speaker 2: What does that mean that?
Speaker 5: I mean you already know?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah to sabe Uhlana de Lapplia baby, Oh yeah yeah?
Speaker 2: So balla adios?
Speaker 1: Are you all from?
Speaker 2: Hello? Hello? What's your name?
Speaker 3: Hailey?
Speaker 2: What's up? Hailey? Has life?
Speaker 7: It's all right.
Speaker 2: Is there any particular aspect of it or of anything
Speaker 2: that you wanted to talk about tonight?
Speaker 7: I didn't nothing specifically. I just wanted to chat.
Speaker 2: Okay, well you you said that your life was was
Speaker 2: could be better? Yeah, I guess Okay, well what would
Speaker 2: make it better?
Speaker 7: Just like a better job, an apartment, just ship like that?
Speaker 2: Where do you? What do you do now? As a job?
Speaker 4: I work at a zoo.
Speaker 2: That sounds like a cool Actually know that that sounds
Speaker 2: like a horrible job.
Speaker 4: It's it's fun.
Speaker 7: It's just it's just like we're under like a new
Speaker 7: employment people system, so it like sucks hard right now?
Speaker 2: Have the pigs taken over the farm? Is your boss? Adirafte? Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Unfortunately that's uh, I would want. I would. If my
Speaker 2: boss was a draft, I would quit too. I would
Speaker 2: be like, this is actually no, I wouldn't know would stay.
Speaker 2: That'd be awesome for your boss.
Speaker 7: Was a direst I think I think maybe a giraffe
Speaker 7: could run the zoo better.
Speaker 2: Probably ooh shots fired zoo director get fucked? Uh yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: well all right, so you work at the zoo. You
Speaker 2: get to touch koalas and.
Speaker 8: Oh I'm making pretels, man, I just worked at like
Speaker 8: the food and beverage service.
Speaker 2: You make pretzels at you make pretzels at the zoo. Yes,
Speaker 2: you're like that. Fuck, You're like, dude, you're like the
Speaker 2: grandpa from Up. That's like Grandpa from Up.
Speaker 1: Job that you have.
Speaker 4: That is so funny.
Speaker 2: You're like that guy. How old are you?
Speaker 7: I am that guy? I'm twenty.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a little too young to be making pretzels
Speaker 2: at the zoo.
Speaker 7: Was too young to be making.
Speaker 8: Pretzels at the zoo.
Speaker 2: Because the guy who makes whoever, the person that makes
Speaker 2: the pretzels at the zoo is supposed to like. They
Speaker 2: don't just make pretzels. They give you inspirational life lessons
Speaker 2: that can only be fully understood by people who've lived
Speaker 2: at least seventy five years of life.
Speaker 7: No, that's not true.
Speaker 2: That that's how it works in the movies. All right,
Speaker 2: you make pretzels at the zoo? Why is it? Why
Speaker 2: is it? Why does that make you unhappy? Why is
Speaker 2: that bad?
Speaker 7: Like working at the zoo? I mean it's not it's
Speaker 7: not like the job itself, Like it's fun. I like
Speaker 7: seeing the animals and stuff whenever I get to. But
Speaker 7: it's just like the people who run it have like
Speaker 7: ruined it hard.
Speaker 2: How much of a dick do you have to be
Speaker 2: to ruin the zoo? What are they doing to ruin it?
Speaker 8: They just they just treat them like shit, Like they
Speaker 8: took away like we would get like a free meal
Speaker 8: a day, but they like took that away and then
Speaker 8: make us pay like twenty dollars for like extra uniform.
Speaker 2: Really even even the animal, even the animals get a
Speaker 2: free meal a day.
Speaker 8: I know they treat them better than us.
Speaker 2: Have you said that? Have you?
Speaker 1: Have you?
Speaker 2: Have you stormed in? Because that's the perfect thing, that's
Speaker 2: the perfect thing to say to your boss at the zoo.
Speaker 2: You treat the animals bend than they do us. That's
Speaker 2: a perfect thing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I would say that to him, but
Speaker 7: I don't get to like talk to the big man.
Speaker 7: Just like there's like people who are in charge of us,
Speaker 7: and then there's people in charge of them, and then
Speaker 7: it's like a big thing.
Speaker 2: Is the pretzels? Is making the pretzels the lowest rung
Speaker 2: of the ladder?
Speaker 4: No, I think.
Speaker 7: I think security guard security guard, they get paid less than.
Speaker 2: Really, really you get Can you get paid less as
Speaker 2: a security guard than you do for making pretzels? Let
Speaker 2: me tell you why that's fun?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 2: So I was at I went to a zoo recently
Speaker 2: in Australia shout out to the Lone Pine Koala Sanctuary.
Speaker 2: I went there and it was the first time I'd
Speaker 2: ever gone to a zoo where they have a place
Speaker 2: where it's like an open field sort of thing. There's
Speaker 2: like a fence, but you can actually go in there
Speaker 2: and touch and pet kangaroos and EMUs and all these
Speaker 2: like big fucked up animals. And I was thinking about this.
Speaker 2: Thousands of people and they're very chill, Like little kids
Speaker 2: run up to them and like you know, rub all
Speaker 2: up on them and shit, and like they don't care.
Speaker 2: They're very docile. They might be drugged. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I think about how much, like you know, thousands
Speaker 2: of people are going into the zoo every day and
Speaker 2: interacting with these animals, and they're wild animals. There's no
Speaker 2: real control there. How much tom fuckery has to be
Speaker 2: going on. There has to have been at least one
Speaker 2: incident where a kangaroo kicked an old lady in the house.
Speaker 2: And the security guard's job is to is to secure
Speaker 2: these animals. So how is how are they that sounds
Speaker 2: It just seems like an important job. The mall, the
Speaker 2: zoo security.
Speaker 4: Guard, well at mine just like to zoom and watched
Speaker 4: the people more than the animals. But someone actually like
Speaker 4: fell into the quita exhibit like two weeks ago.
Speaker 2: What was it? What was that? What was that?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: Did they get did they get sucked up?
Speaker 7: I don't think. I think the cheetah just kind of
Speaker 7: like sat there and like looked at him because she
Speaker 7: was like with her trainer or something. So it's fucking weird.
Speaker 4: They like locked down.
Speaker 7: The whole zoo is crazy.
Speaker 2: Somebody fell into the cheetah. You're you're dude, you're literally
Speaker 2: living in a in a in a little you know,
Speaker 2: a little Disney movie. You're making pretzels at the zoo
Speaker 2: and then a guy comedically fell over into the cheetah exhibit.
Speaker 2: You're living in a in a in a cartoon.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was like it what.
Speaker 2: I don't want to ask? What zoo or kat? What? Uh? Okay?
Speaker 2: What else is bad with your life? These all sound
Speaker 2: like good, funny things.
Speaker 7: I don't know, just a lot of like I don't know,
Speaker 7: family drama and stuff that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: What uh I mean you don't have to get into
Speaker 2: that if you don't want to.
Speaker 7: But what.
Speaker 2: Do you do you want to?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 7: Maybe maybe not right now, but we can talk down.
Speaker 2: That's cool. Honestly, I'm glad it is it bad that
Speaker 2: I'm glad that you said no? So that we can
Speaker 2: talk more about the zoo.
Speaker 7: I would love to.
Speaker 2: There's been a lot there's been a lot of conversations
Speaker 2: on this podcast about deep issues between family members and
Speaker 2: not not a lot about guys falling into cheetah enclosures.
Speaker 2: So we might as let's balance it out. What's your dream?
Speaker 2: What's your dream?
Speaker 7: Well, it was when I was little, it was like
Speaker 7: always to like be a zoo keeper and stuff, So
Speaker 7: I guess it's still that. So I'm just like, I
Speaker 7: don't know, kind of getting closer to that.
Speaker 2: But I love that idea though, that you're gonna you're
Speaker 2: gonna rise the rank. This is sick. This is sick.
Speaker 2: You're gonna rise the ranks from doing the pretzels to
Speaker 2: be to owning the zoo.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's honestly like it's happened before, people go from
Speaker 7: like the food service to like being a whole zoo.
Speaker 5: Keeper and stuff.
Speaker 7: So it's definitely possible.
Speaker 2: That's sweet. I like, I like that idea. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think of what else I know about zoos. What's
Speaker 2: the coolest animal they got at this zoo?
Speaker 1: God, I don't know.
Speaker 7: They have a lot of animals. For me, it's the
Speaker 7: red Pandas. They're really they're really cute. Are my favorite?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I like I like red Pandas. That's like
Speaker 2: the that's the guy from Red right turning red?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what kind of what kind of geckos are they?
Speaker 2: Day geckos?
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's actually one of those, and they have like
Speaker 7: crested geckos and ship all the geckos.
Speaker 2: Man, that's awesome. Do they do they ever? Do they
Speaker 2: look like they have any thoughts?
Speaker 7: Maybe some we don't. We don't know about We're never
Speaker 7: gonna find out. But they do.
Speaker 2: Do they look sad? Ever?
Speaker 4: I think, you know, I think maybe they do just
Speaker 4: like like sitting in that cave all day and just having.
Speaker 7: Kids just like smear their faces and lick the glass.
Speaker 7: Might it would make me sad to have to live
Speaker 7: in there?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well maybe that, you know what? You know what?
Speaker 2: All right, I'll give you a blessing m hm. That
Speaker 2: will cosmically. It won't ensure anything, but it will cosmically
Speaker 2: point the universe. And I'm gonna manifest it. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: cosmically point the universe in the direction of you one
Speaker 2: day owning the zoo, working your way up from the
Speaker 2: pretzel making. But you gotta do me a favor before
Speaker 2: I do that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you got to.
Speaker 2: Promise me that when you own the zoo, you will
Speaker 2: free the geckos.
Speaker 7: I promise loo, when I own the Zoo, I will
Speaker 7: free to get goos.
Speaker 2: You have my word, Hayley. Is there anything else you
Speaker 2: want to that's probably not your Is that your name?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Haley? Is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Free the geckos man.
Speaker 2: Free the Geckos. That's going on the T shirt. See
Speaker 2: you Haley, yay, thank you fine.
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