1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,640 Speaker 1: All from zimblanity. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 2: Hey, what's up? 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Hello? 4 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 2: Hi? 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on? 6 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: Who is this? This is zimblanity, zimblanity. Have we spoken before, zimblanity? 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: No, this is my first time. 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: What's up, zimblanity? What's going on with you? I? 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: I don't really know. I do wonder to myself why 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: I have such an aversion to therapy that it's easier 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: to call into a lizard? 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: Okay, And in that wondering as to why you have 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: such an aversion to therapy that you call a lizard? 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: What sorts of observations have you made or conclusions have 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: you inched towards. 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: I think it's just anxiety, you know, But I don't 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: know how to fix it, and I'm hoping that maybe 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: you could do that for me. 19 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: I cannot. I can't promise I can do anything for you, 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: but I will try. I will talk with you about it. 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: What are you anxious about? 22 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: I mean everything, I'm like shaking on this phone call 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: right now? Okay, that it's me nervous. I don't know what. 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: Hmmm, how old are you? 25 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm thirty? 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: Okay? 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: You this way? 28 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. How long Have 29 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: you been this this way? As you say, Uh, it's 30 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: been years, man, were you Can you remember a time 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: in your life when you were not this way whatever 32 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: whatever this way means to you. 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I really, I really cannot. It's uh. 34 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: I've always been an anxious head. Now I'm an anxious, 35 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: non binaried individual. 36 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: All right, you're an anxious kid. Now you feel like 37 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: you're an anxious adult. 38 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. I've tried medications, meditations, they didn't really help. 39 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: Okay, mm hmm. Well I'll ask you a few questions. 40 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: Is there do you think your anxiety is rooted in 41 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: the future or are you dwelling upon the past? Or 42 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: is something about the present giving you anxiety? 43 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: Where? Where? 44 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 4: Where? 45 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: Where is the anxiety? Or is the answer just all three? 46 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: I mean it really would be all three. I mean 47 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: I guess not the past, because I really just kind 48 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: of I let I just let things go. Ah, But 49 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: I'm constantly worried about a recently, if I'm going to 50 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: finish my apprenticeship. I'm worried about my friends, what they 51 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: think about me, if I'm doing right by them, if 52 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm a good dad, just all the things you have 53 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: a kid, Yeah, I. 54 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: Do hold your kid. 55 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: She is eight eight eight, ts. 56 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: Hey, wonderful. Do you have a significant other of some kinds? 57 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: I do. I have my partner Drew. He's he's amazing, 58 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: It's good. 59 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: Okay okay, And is Drew like, did you guys do 60 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: like an artificial insemination thing? 61 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: So basically before I just that I was queer. I 62 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: had been in a really abusive relationship for years. I 63 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: did feel at some point that my only way out 64 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: of this relationship was through my daughter, my now daughter. 65 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: That's a whole bag worms. 66 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: Your now daughter is. So was like you were in 67 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: a relationship with somebody and that woman is that the 68 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: mother of your daughter? 69 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: Yes? 70 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: Okay? Is she in your life in any way, shape 71 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: or form, or. 72 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: We have like a shared parenting thing going through a 73 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 1: custody whatever. Right now I'm trying to get full custody. 74 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: It's not looking good. Ohio's a mother their state as 75 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: they say. 76 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: Really yeah, m okay. So how often do you get 77 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: to see your daughter? 78 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: It really just depends my ex is she thinks that 79 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: like a long winded text messages with grammatically correct spelling 80 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: is a legal document. So sometimes I get to see 81 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: her every weekend and then sometimes I'm just sitting around 82 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: hanging out and then I get a big text message 83 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: at like two am that says, I, so and so 84 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: no longer agree to our inherent parenting agreement and you 85 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: won't be getting her these days. And that's not how 86 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: that works. But going to court costs like a lot 87 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: of money. 88 00:05:54,160 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what do you do. 89 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: Right now? I am on disability because of the anxiety, 90 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: and I am trying to do a piercing apprenticeship at 91 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: a tattoo shop. Uh, And I hope that that works out. 92 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm hoping I can claw my way off of disability 93 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: with the apprenticeship. But you know, we'll see m hm. 94 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: And what does Drew do. 95 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: Drew is a tattoo artist, he's an illustrator, he watches dogs. 96 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: He he's really just kind of caught up in the 97 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: gig economy right now. 98 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: So all right, So, because you're on disability, I assume 99 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: you at one point did have to go to a 100 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 2: doctor or a psychiatrist or a therapist of some kinds 101 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: and get like medically diagnosed with something. Is that is 102 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: that true? What were you? What were youically diagnosed with? 103 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 5: Uh? 104 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: Just I was diagnosed with the severe anxiety, the severe depression. Uh, 105 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: this is I mean, like I said, this is things 106 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: have been happening like since I was a child, and 107 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: it's like it is debilitating, like but I'm trying my best. 108 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: Okay. Mmmm and have you and you said you, uh would, 109 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: so tell me again why you feel more comfortable talking 110 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: to me about all all these things instead of talking 111 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: to an actual therapist. 112 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. Something I don't know. 113 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: Maybe something about the suit kind of takes the power away, 114 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: the seriousness of it. 115 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: But does it I mean, does it make it? I mean, 116 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: this is a you know, uh uh. Other people are 117 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: listening right now. Does that make you more anxious or 118 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: less anxious? Do you not care about that? 119 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean, to me, those are just numbers on the screen. 120 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: I know my friend is listening right now, Okay, and 121 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: that makes me anxious because I know that they can 122 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: hear me. 123 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: Okay, but you wanted to talk regardless, so you but 124 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: you still feel comfortable enough with them hearing you that 125 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: you're doing it. 126 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've heard about these things before. I wouldn't have 127 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: talked about these if it was a thing that I 128 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: wasn't comfortable with them hearing specifically, but say like if 129 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: somebody else you know, you know it figures out or 130 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, someone else in my life, that would probably 131 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: cause anxiety. I don't want to feel like I'm like 132 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: trauma dumping to my friends. 133 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: Sure, okay, can you not afford to zero a real therapist? 134 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: So since I'm on disability, I'm on the medicaid so sweet, 135 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: I just started. Uh, I just got a new therapist 136 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: last week. But it is uh, I don't know, like 137 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: I've already opened up more to you than I had him, 138 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: and uh, it's I don't know, it's I you know, 139 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: there's like a fight flight freeze and fawn and I 140 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: just like a freeze. 141 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:37,599 Speaker 2: Okay mm hm hmmmm. Well I uh, the doc and 142 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: the doctors gave you medication and you tried that. They've 143 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: probably told you to fucking do some kind of meditation 144 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: thing and you tried that and nothing worked. 145 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: Yeah that's uh, I'm doing medication right now. Uh, I 146 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: don't feel it's working. I've honestly had more success. Uh. 147 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: Which micro dosing? 148 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 5: Uh mushrooms Oh cool, cool cool? 149 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: Cool? Not that how did those make how did those 150 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: make you feel? 151 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: Honestly? My first time micro dosing the LSD. It blew 152 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: my mind. I felt like I went from like some autistic, 153 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: anxiety riddled person to. 154 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: Just be an enormy Yeah. Yeah, you went from you 155 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: went from four Chan to Pinterest. 156 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: I really did. Yeah, I had this was my white 157 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: girl summer. 158 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: Nice? Nice, Okay, And then like, here's the thing with drugs. 159 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: I thought about this. I thought about this last time 160 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: my Tripp's rooms. Drugs are like that scene in the Breath. 161 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: Drugs are like that scene in the Breakfast Club. Have 162 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: you ever seen the movie with the Breakfast Club? 163 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 164 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 2: All right, you know, so when you when you take 165 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: mushrooms or LSD, you have that like, oh, I know, 166 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: I have this epiphany and that epiphany and I feel 167 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 2: this and I feel that and everything feels like it 168 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: makes sense. 169 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 3: Right. 170 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like that scene in the Breath. But it's 171 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 2: like that scene in the Breakfast Club where the nerd 172 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: you know, is talking to all the other people and 173 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: he's like, so Monday morning, are we still going to 174 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 2: be friends? Did any of this matter? 175 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: You know? 176 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: So sober you right now talking to me, have you 177 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: retained any of those epiphanies? Did any of them matter 178 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: or affect life? After the trip. 179 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean in ways, yeah, because I feel like it 180 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: lowered my defenses or gave me the courage or whatever 181 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: to take steps towards bettering myself and bettering like my life. 182 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: I was micro dosing when I was able to, like 183 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: ask my friend for a pearing apprenticeship, and I'm like, 184 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm really putting my eggs in this basket because I'm 185 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: hoping to start making money and be able to save 186 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: and stuff. I wouldn't have been able to put foot forward 187 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for like the strength the wall or 188 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: whatever the micro dosing gave to me. 189 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 2: Okay, that's great, that's good. So you're on a how 190 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: long ago was that that you were trying out this 191 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 2: and doing all these things. 192 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean I've been microsing for like a year now. 193 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 5: I think, all right. 194 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 2: It is your life better today than it was a 195 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: year ago, for sure. Fantastic. Okay, you're on an upwards trajectory. 196 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: You're a you're a positive stuff, I hope. So yeah, no, 197 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: I think I think I think you are. Mm hmmmmmmmmmmm. 198 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: All right. So you're you're in a piercing apprentice, yes, okay, 199 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: and you what's you in your in your anxiety riddled brain. 200 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 2: What is the anxiety over the over the piercing apprentice? 201 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: Uh, it's honestly, it's just I don't know, it's it's 202 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of Uh, it's just drama. It's like everybody's 203 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: mad at this person. That person's mad at this person. 204 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna get swept under the rug 205 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: speak of these things. 206 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, I I you said I when you you 207 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: said it's funny, you said I shouldn't be this. 208 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: Way at thirty. I don't think thirty is too old. 209 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 2: Thirty is not too old to have anxiety by any means, 210 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: but it's it's too old to engage it, to engage 211 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: in drama in any way, shape or form. Maybe I 212 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: wouldn't say, I don't want to put an age thing 213 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: to it at all, but but you shouldn't be Why 214 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: why in what way are you engaging in this drama? 215 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: So I'm not engaging in it. So basically, my mentor 216 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, shows up late, stuff like that, her car 217 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: breaks down, people get upset with her. I feel like 218 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: maybe there's some residual upsetness aimed at her that's being 219 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: placed on me because I'm an apprentice. I feel like 220 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: maybe there' not taking me seriously or they feel that 221 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm not serious about it. 222 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: Uh. 223 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to engage in drama. I just uh, 224 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: I know, drama happens, and like sometimes it boils down 225 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: to like playing sides of the fence, and I just, 226 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: you know, I just want everybody to get along and 227 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: have a nice time. 228 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: What's the version of this that involves you spending one 229 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: hundred percent of your time dedicated to just learning how 230 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: to get better at your piercing and tattooing. I'm not 231 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: thinking about anything outside of that. 232 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know, I don't know what the 233 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: uh I'm trying. I'm trying my best. 234 00:15:50,640 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: To okay, do that as it is. Okay, good, good, Okay. 235 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: You're trying your best to focus on how you can 236 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: just do the job instead of instead of worrying about, 237 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: you know, what the hell's going on between your mentor 238 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: and the the other person and then what else do 239 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: you have this crazy ex wife scenario. I'm sorry about that. 240 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: That's really really, really tough. 241 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you have a white trash. 242 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah that's all right, that's all right. You're worried about 243 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: you're worrying about it whether or not you were a 244 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: good father? Yeah, why are you worried about that? 245 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: I feel like because of like the optimum, because of 246 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: the anxiety, the depression. I feel like there are people 247 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: in my life, like and that are also in her 248 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: life that like infantilize me when it comes to like 249 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: being a father, and they I just I feel like 250 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm constantly just like questioned on whether or not I'm 251 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: able to do this. 252 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: Okay, so this is what does that have to I 253 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: hope this question makes sense? But what does that have 254 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: to do with you? 255 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: So like. 256 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: Maybe I'll try what I What I mean by what 257 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: I mean by that is is you're wondering whether or 258 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 2: not you're a I asked you why you think you're 259 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: not a good father, and you were talking about you 260 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: responded by talking about other people's opinions of you and 261 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: the way that other people are treating you, which you know, 262 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: but but I want to, like, I want to hear 263 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: about what you think about yourself, not like what other 264 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 2: people think about you as a father. But what do 265 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: you is it are those opinions getting to you through 266 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: to you and now you're kind of infantilizing yourself. 267 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: I mean maybe. I mean, like, you know, you hear 268 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: things about yourself so much that like eventually you start 269 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: to believe it. 270 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: Okay, So like. 271 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: I I think, I think I'm just doing my best 272 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: and that's all you can do. But like I'm great 273 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: worried if that enough? 274 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: Great? So so if you think you're so, I take 275 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: take the external. If you think you're doing the best 276 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: that you can do to be a father, then why 277 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: why are you anxious about whether or not you're a 278 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: good father just because other people are treating you like 279 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,239 Speaker 2: a baby because you have autism? 280 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I you know, it's also like we 281 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: the only course right now. So I recently had to 282 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: get a guardian ad litem for the custody battle thing. 283 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: And it's basically a lawyer who comes and visits both 284 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: houses and determines which parents is better for like the 285 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: child's well being. 286 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and. 287 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: You know, like my house, it's just me in a 288 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: two bedroom apartment, It's just me and my daughter. And 289 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: at her mother's house, there's like fifteen people in this house, 290 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: one of the guys a known predator. She's got my 291 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: daughter and like four other kids living in an unfinished basement, 292 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 1: and like the guardian came to both our houses and 293 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: then like decided that like my place wouldn't be h 294 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: h suitable to raise the child here because my house 295 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: was disorganized. 296 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that. 297 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot. 298 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I'm sorry to hear that. 299 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 300 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I I I obviously you know we're not 301 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 2: gonna be able to like fix every thing or anything. 302 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: I don't know if this conversation has been remotely helpful 303 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: for you, but at least in terms of like just 304 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: just to start off just as like a foundation of something, 305 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 2: at least in terms of like what you can and 306 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 2: cannot control in this situation. I hope that you take 307 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: control of like your own perspective on yourself and wrestle 308 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: it away from this idea that you're a bad father 309 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: because you're trying your best, and you know you're trying 310 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: your best. You said it yourself, so yeah, don't. I 311 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: just I hope you're not torturing yourself in that way 312 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 2: and that you maintain and you know that you are 313 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 2: a good father because you're trying your best, and even 314 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 2: these things that are you know that you didn't choose 315 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: that are you know, like depression and anxiety. You know, 316 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: you're You're not a bad father because you have depression anxiety. 317 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: You're a good father because you're fighting against those things 318 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: with active effort, because you care and that's the most 319 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: important things that you care and you're trying. So I 320 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: hope you understand that and then you're not you know, 321 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 2: suffering more in your own brain internally on top of 322 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: the external suffering. Does any of that make sense or 323 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: resonate with you in any way, shape. 324 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: Or for him? Yeah, it makes sense. 325 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 2: Okay. Do you have any thoughts about any of that? 326 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean I'm trying that. That lists 327 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: why I like the court and stuff is you know, 328 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: we're I'm going through with that and uh, you know, 329 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: I've done all that I could do, and I'm doing 330 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: all that I could do. I just hope that, like 331 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: when my daughter gets older, she sees that mmm. 332 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 2: Mmm do you I don't know, man, I don't know. 333 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: Is there any other aspect of of this that you 334 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 2: wanted to talk about specifically? 335 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 5: No? I think I'm good. 336 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: Was was this was this helpful in any way, shape 337 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: or form for your life? 338 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: I I hope So, I mean, uh, this was like, 339 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: you know it. Uh, I had a lot of anxiety 340 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 1: about making this call and the fact that I did, like, 341 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm you know, and I didn't just like hang up. 342 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 5: You know, that's okay. 343 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: I'm impressed with myself over there. 344 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: Give you give yourself some fucking credit. That's the that's 345 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: that's that's the thing. Give yourself some credit. I just dude, 346 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 2: if you take one thing away from this call, I 347 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 2: just hope you give yourself some credit because you're fighting again. 348 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: You have all these like things that you're fighting against internally, 349 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: but you're fighting against them, right, you have. You have 350 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 2: debilitating anxiety, but yet you picked up the phone and 351 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 2: you called or you know, you you you didn't just 352 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 2: sit around and succumb to your issues. You know, even 353 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: if even if there are some or most days that 354 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: you do, you know you you tried. And I hope 355 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: you look at evidence that exists that you tried your best, 356 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: and I hope you'd internalize it because you know, the 357 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: stories that we fucking tell ourselves and they're important. What's 358 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: your name again, zimblanity? Zimblanity? Did you pick that name 359 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: for yourself? 360 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: I did pick that name? 361 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: What does that mean? What is that from. 362 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: Uh So, zimblanity is the opposite of serendipity. 363 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: I do you know what. I totally thought that was 364 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 2: just a word that you made up. No, zimblanity. It's 365 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: the opposite of security, of serendipity. It's the opposite of serendipity. Yeah, okay, 366 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: So what define serendipity for me? 367 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: Uh So, serendipity is like, you know, like a wonderful thing. 368 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: Uh It's like a stroke of genius, like a muse, 369 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: you know, like, and zimblanity is like something that's unwanted 370 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: but inevitable, like a grandma dying. 371 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: Why did you name yourself that? 372 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 1: I just thought it sounded pretty. I don't know. 373 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't mean to make fun of your the 374 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 2: name that you chose for yourself, but I just it 375 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: sounds negative. 376 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: No, I yeah, yeah, it sounds negative. But like I'm 377 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: you know, I like to. I just I thought it 378 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: sounded pretty. I'd like to I'd like for people to 379 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: hear that and then think of something positive. I think, 380 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: I think, uh, the people who are in my life 381 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: here zimblanity, and you know, think of me and the 382 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: good good stuff we good times we have together. 383 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: Okay, all right. So you're you're taking you're taking zimblanity back. 384 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: You're you're flipping it. Yeah, you're making You're you're making it. 385 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 2: You're making zimblanity into serenity. Yes, all right, I respect 386 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 2: that as I planning anything else you want to say 387 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 2: to the people of the computer before we go. 388 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been reading the chat as we've been having 389 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: this talk. This chat is wonderful. If it's okay, I'd 390 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: like to give a shout out to my friend. 391 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: If that's fine, yeah's who's your friend? 392 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: My friend is Cat Bogart. Could I plug their Instagram? 393 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: Or is that? 394 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: Do they want you to plug their Instagram because a 395 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 2: bunch of people might send them links to weird bitcoin 396 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: addresses and shit, I. 397 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: Mean they would probably appreciate it. 398 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 2: Oh, what do they do? What's the Instagram? 399 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: They're a tattoo artist, so it's their professional page. All right, sir, 400 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: h it's Cat Bogart. Their page is Cat Bogart, Inc. 401 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: They are an amazing person. They're my favorite artist. There's 402 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: all around a good being. 403 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 2: Do you know this person? 404 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: I do? 405 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 2: It's Kat with a K Okay, all right, well we'll 406 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 2: check them out. Well, the thing is I don't know 407 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: if it's your thing. It's like all right, well you know, yeah, 408 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: all right, we'll check that out. Well we can. People 409 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: will someone will go on Instagram and look at it 410 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 2: and go like that's pretty cool. 411 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody added it in the chat. 412 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 2: Well z have a good rest of your of your day. 413 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: Thank you, man. I do feel that this helped. 414 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: Okay, good, thanks man. I appreciate that. I'm glad. Huh, 415 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: take care z you too. All right, doing some trying, 416 00:28:49,160 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: doing some real therapy, therapy, gecko, trying our best. Yeah, 417 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: that was those is interesting. That was interesting. I'm dude, 418 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. Sometimes I really with that whole thing 419 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: of like I want to I I'm off and on 420 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: about the whole thing of like I want to call 421 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: you because I don't I can't call a real therapist. 422 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: Like. 423 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: There's definitely there's lots of days and times where that 424 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: makes me uncomfortable. But there's also like a lot of 425 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: days and times where I'm like, you know what, let 426 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: me give it a try. Fuck it, why not let 427 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: me give it a try. Let's dive in fuck it something. 428 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: I do. I feel that way. I feel that way 429 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: when I get really sad. When I get really like 430 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: if I'm walking into this thing and I'm and I'm 431 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: sad myself, I'm like, oh, you got like a real serious, sad, 432 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: dire thing. Yes, you know, let's talk about it, let's 433 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: get into yours. You know, I feel more so, And 434 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: then I feel I feel confident. I'm like, all right, 435 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: maybe I can you know, do do something, you know, 436 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: try to. But then there's a lot of times where 437 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck, man, I just I just I don't 438 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: know what the fuck I signed up for. But that 439 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: that that didn't feel like that, I didn't feel like that. 440 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: I liked, I liked talking to Ze. But you know, 441 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: next next time, we'll do more diarrhea stuff. Haven't had 442 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: haven't had diarrhea stuff in a while actually, And to 443 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 2: be I look, to be honest, if my if I 444 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: had to choose between a podcast of all diarrhea stuff 445 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: and all heavy stories, I'd go with the heavy stories 446 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: because I can only do so much diarrhea. So I 447 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 2: don't know. I'm just I'm just being a gecko and 448 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 2: doing a podcast. Ah sweet. 449 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: All from Nicolas. 450 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 5: Hello, Hey, what what's up? 451 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: What? 452 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: Wait? 453 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 5: Am I on the show? 454 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: You're on the show. What's up? 455 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 5: Man? 456 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: What's your name? 457 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 5: Oh man, I'm Nick. That's crazy. How are you doing, Nick. 458 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: I'm doing I'm doing okay, I'm hanging in there. What's 459 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: going on with you? 460 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 5: Oh my god, this is crazy. I'm I'm chilling with 461 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 5: my my like my two friends on Discord and I 462 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 5: just started watching the stream and I was like, oh man, 463 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 5: we like, we shall call and uh we were like, no, 464 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 5: we're not gonna call this, so we like we didn't 465 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 5: really watch too much of the show. I mean, I'm 466 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 5: a big fan, but my my friend doesn't watch We're 467 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 5: gonna call it. But uh my, dude, I'm like super stone, 468 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 5: but I'm sorry. 469 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: No, that's okay. I was a little I was a 470 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: little stoned earlier. I was actually actually right before, I 471 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 2: never dude, all right, I'll just I gotta be honest 472 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 2: with you guys. I never do this, And I talk 473 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: about how I never do this. I can't talk about 474 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: how I never do it anymore because I started not 475 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: doing it all the time. But like I've had a 476 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: couple I've done a couple of these recording sessions, like 477 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: the past two of them. I was like, I was like, 478 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: fuck it, let me uh, and again it's been three years. 479 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: I never do this, but I was like, fuck it, 480 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: let me just get high and taught and uh and 481 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: just do the stream. And I did it high and 482 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: I had a great time. I was like, I was 483 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: up for like five hours fucking talking to people and 484 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: it was great, which, by the way, is the worst 485 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: thing that could possibly happen, because do you know what 486 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,239 Speaker 2: happens if you don't You know what happens if you 487 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: live stream yourself as a gecko talking to people sober 488 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: for three years and then you do it high once 489 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 2: and it goes, well, do you know what happens? Nick? 490 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 5: I think you might turn into a gecko. 491 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: You that's a that's that's a good one. I like that. 492 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: But what happens is you go, oh, that was so good. 493 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 2: That was so great. You know what I should do? 494 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: I should get high every time I go to record 495 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: by show and then and so this is this is 496 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: high recording session number two I got I have. We're 497 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: We're about two hours into this though, so I'm I'm 498 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: kind of on like this. The come down from weed 499 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: is pretty bad. That's what I'm on right now. I 500 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 2: actually thought, for a second, I'm looking at my little 501 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: vate pen right now, and I thought for a second 502 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: about hitting it before talking to you. So then you're 503 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you're stone. And I could have 504 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 2: been like, oh, I'm stone too, what's up man? 505 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 5: But hey man, it's not too late to hit that 506 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 5: blinker ah. 507 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. You don't want to make it a habit, 508 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: right because then I'm gonna start. I just I've been 509 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 2: getting high too much. I've been crossing boundaries that I 510 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,959 Speaker 2: had said. I I had set certain boundaries of like, oh, 511 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: I won't do it this day and or I won't 512 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: I won't do it you know in the mornings, or 513 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: you know when I have this to do or that 514 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: to do. But I've started crossing these boundaries. It's hard 515 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 2: because what I want so badly, I want to be 516 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 2: fuck seth Rogen talks about how he like will get 517 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: high and go into these like multi million dollar movie 518 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: pitches and stuff like that. I've I've I think I've 519 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: told this story. I've probably told the story of the 520 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: podcast before. But I had a friend. I was hanging 521 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 2: off with my friend's brother. I was like, we were 522 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: visiting him in New York and he's like he was 523 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: like trying to be an actor. And he was in 524 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: New York, like auditioning, and he was telling us about 525 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 2: this audition he was going to, and he's like, yeah, 526 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 2: this is a huge part. You know, if I booked 527 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: this commercial, it's gonna be gonna be a ton of money, 528 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 2: and it's like really important and this is this is 529 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: like a dream gig, and I really really hope I 530 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 2: get it. And then right before he leaves to this 531 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: audition that he's talking about how important it is, he 532 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 2: just takes the biggest bong rip I've ever seen and 533 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 2: he walks out the door to this fucking audition, and 534 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, I wish I could do that so badly. 535 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 2: I wish I wish I could like just smoke weed 536 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 2: like it was nothing, and it just made my life 537 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 2: easy and fun all the time. And and it's like 538 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 2: a roll of the dice man, because like like last you know, 539 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: the other night, when I did when I did this 540 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 2: stream High, it was great. It was it was a 541 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 2: great five hours and it did do that. It did 542 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 2: what I always wanted to do, just make things feel 543 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 2: a little more easy and fun. But it doesn't always 544 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: do that. It doesn't always do that. You can't always 545 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 2: count on it doing that every single time, because if 546 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 2: you do, then you'll run into so many times where 547 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: I'll think it's going to do that, and then about 548 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 2: a minute once it starts really kicking, and I'm like, 549 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: why the fuck did I just get high before we 550 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 2: go to the grocery store. That was a stupid idea, 551 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 2: And now I'm walking around the grocery store forgetting why 552 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: I came in and thinking about my life, and it 553 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: was just stupid. So I do it because I want 554 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: to be like my friend's brother. I want to have 555 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 2: we just be like a thing that makes my life better. 556 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 2: But it's too too much of a gamble. Has being 557 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 2: stoned helped you enjoy my rambling at all? Or has 558 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:49,479 Speaker 2: it made it worse? 559 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: Oh? 560 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 5: It's made it so much better. I feel like I 561 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 5: can understand with you you're rambling because I'm on like 562 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 5: a similar wavelength right now. 563 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel nervous about you? Do you 564 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: feel anxious or paranoid that you sound stupid? 565 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 5: No, dude, I'm stupid. 566 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: All right? 567 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 2: Are you still on discord with your friends? 568 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 569 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 5: I'm on discord with my friends right now. I just 570 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 5: stepped away from the computer so I can hear. 571 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 2: Okay, cool, I I was hoping you weren't still trying. 572 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 2: I guess having a conversation with them and me that 573 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: would that would be stupid. Well, all right, Nicholas, Nick, Yeah, 574 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 2: it's Nick, dude. It's okay. If there's not we can 575 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 2: just keep we can just sit in silence. I don't care. 576 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 5: Hey do you play this? Do you play any video games? 577 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? I play video games. I don't. I don't play 578 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: like like Valorant or any of like the online ship. 579 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 5: Have you heard of Dark and Darker? 580 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 2: Nope? 581 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 5: Oh my god, you have to play Dark and Darker? 582 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 2: Is it on the Nintendo Switch? 583 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 5: Unfortunately not. 584 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 2: I am never ever ever going to play. 585 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 5: Oh man, it's the worst game I ever made, but 586 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 5: it's amazing. 587 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 2: All right, Well you're really selling it? Was that what 588 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 2: you want? 589 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 3: I was? 590 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 2: I was gonna say it before I uh whatever? Was 591 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 2: there anything in particular you called in you want to 592 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 2: talk about? 593 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 5: It's no, not exactly, but I could you know, I 594 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 5: can talk to you about how much I like, love 595 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 5: and hate this one game, Dark and Darker. It's very new, 596 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 5: like early access games. 597 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 2: What other what other games do you play? 598 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 5: I play other games I hate, like Rust. 599 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 2: Why do you Why do you play so many games 600 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 2: that you hate? 601 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: Oh? 602 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 5: Because it's a because there's there's like a I played 603 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 5: survival games and so it's just it's you and me. 604 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 5: It's me and my my bes friend, and we play 605 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 5: these games together and it's us against the whole world, 606 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 5: the whole. In Rust, it's this one game we play 607 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 5: quite often. It's you have to Like you start off 608 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 5: and you're on like in this island, and you have 609 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 5: a rock and you're naked, your dick is out and 610 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 5: your your balls are out and uh, and everyone else 611 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 5: around you is like the same way. And you have 612 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 5: to build a like a base, and then you get 613 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 5: like guns and you like shoot people and you take 614 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 5: their bases and you blow into their bases and take 615 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 5: all their ship and the entire time they're off, they're 616 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 5: like they're trying to blow into your base and they're 617 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 5: screaming at you that you know they're gonna get on 618 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 5: the on the game when you're offline and take your stuff, 619 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 5: so you can't sleep, you know. 620 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 2: That's but so much that sounds like so much fun 621 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 2: playing that game with your friends. That sounds like so 622 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 2: much fucking fun. Damn, I wish I haven't played like 623 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 2: I haven't really played games online with my friends. I 624 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 2: really haven't done that since middle school or like early 625 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 2: high school. I haven't done that in a decade, over 626 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 2: a decade. It's fun, man, it's fun. I mean, I'll 627 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 2: play like, I play like, I'll play land Ship, you know, 628 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 2: play some Mario Kart play. I played a ton of 629 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 2: Super Smash Bros. Melee in high school, in college, in 630 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 2: a little bit after college. But uh, I haven't played 631 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 2: online in a while. That sounds so much fun. How 632 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 2: old are you? Are you in college right now? 633 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 5: Uh? 634 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 6: No, right now? 635 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 5: I'm not in college and I'm twenty two. 636 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 2: Okay, what do you What do you do with your life? 637 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: Uh? 638 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 5: I I make music and I work at pizza place. 639 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 2: You make music and you work at a pizza place. 640 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 641 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 2: Is the pizza any good? 642 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 5: No, it's pizza over. 643 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 2: What's it called? What's the pizza place? 644 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 5: Oh? 645 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 3: No? 646 00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 2: Is it? Is it a chain? Is it a chain? 647 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: It a chain? 648 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 5: No, it's not a big change. 649 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 2: Well you don't chain, all right, you don't have to. 650 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: You don't have to put them blast. 651 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 5: But it's it has to do with new York. But 652 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 5: it's it's not it's not very good. But I mean 653 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 5: it's good when I get it for free. But besides that, yeah, 654 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 5: it's pretty bad. 655 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 2: It's hard to fuck up pizza. 656 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 5: I disagree up pizza. I've sucked up a lot of pizzas. 657 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: Yet. 658 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 2: Do you do you deliver pizzas or do you make 659 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 2: the pizzas? 660 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 5: I cut the pizza? 661 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 2: All right, so you are in you you you have 662 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 2: you fucked up a lot of pizzas cutting them stupidly. 663 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, like, and it's not even this, like sometimes 664 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 5: I just forget to cut them. 665 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 2: You pizza cut them? 666 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, because you know, let me ask you a. 667 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 2: Question before you answer the Because do you get high 668 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 2: at work? 669 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 5: I get high before work, and then I get high 670 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 5: after work. 671 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 2: That's the That's that's the most hilarious way of No, 672 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 2: I don't get high at work. I get high before work. 673 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 6: It's different, Yeah, because then I get to experience the 674 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 6: like that calm down, and then gradually I feel like 675 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 6: I get better and better at my job. 676 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't I I I'm going to challenge you. 677 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 2: I don't think weed is making you better at your job. 678 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 2: It might make your job better for you. Oh, okay, 679 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 2: you're getting better, You're getting more sober as the night progresses. 680 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, so then I get better and better. So at 681 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 5: the end of the night, I close and I'm just 682 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 5: like hyper aware. 683 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 2: M Okay, you're twenty two. You like to get high. 684 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 2: You work at a pizza place. Uh, there's a there's 685 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 2: a really funny Onion article that says something like everyone 686 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 2: involved in the manufacturing, delivery, and consumption of pizza extremely high. 687 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 2: Uh it was funny anyway, all right, so whatever, see 688 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 2: you working a pizza place, you get high, you play 689 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 2: video games with your friends, that kind of That sounds awesome. Honestly, 690 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 2: it sounds pretty cool. Do you have higher aspirations or 691 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 2: are you set? 692 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 5: I really really want to play music for people. 693 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 2: Okay, what kind of music do you make? 694 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,240 Speaker 5: H I like I like me. I really like jazz. 695 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 5: I really love jazz, and I really love indie music. 696 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 5: And I just want to make music that is very 697 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 5: personal to myself. And I mean, I just love music 698 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 5: very much. It's it's always been an escape for me. 699 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 5: So I don't know, I just want to make music 700 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 5: that is solely me and it's what I just create, 701 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 5: what I only I can create because I think that 702 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 5: it's I'm you know, I know there's so many other artists, 703 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 5: but I'm still myself and only I can say I 704 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 5: only I can make music. I can make and just 705 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 5: want to make my jazz indie music. 706 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 2: That's a beautiful way of thinking about it. Making only 707 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 2: what you can make. That's really how you should make stuff. 708 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, so beautiful love music. 709 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 2: That's cool. I like that you can make music from 710 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 2: the unique perspective of a guy who likes to get 711 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 2: high and play video games. No, I'm just talking with you. 712 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 2: What perspective do you make the music from? 713 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 5: I guess I think about music like my I look 714 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 5: at the perspective I take is I try to see 715 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 5: the full image of something, of a completed idea in 716 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 5: my head, and then I try to break it down 717 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 5: into its smaller individual parts and try to achieve achieve 718 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 5: the idea I had in my head. 719 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 2: Who do you like? 720 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:22,879 Speaker 3: Oh? 721 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 2: I really like Parker, Charlie Parker. Okay, I really liked 722 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 2: Miles Davis. Miles all right, I like Miles I was. 723 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 2: I don't know who Charlie Parker is, but I listened 724 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 2: to a lot of Miles Davis. 725 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 7: Oh, he's me. 726 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 5: He was so awesome. I was listening to he just 727 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 5: had a new remastered album coming. I mean, like, well, 728 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 5: he's dead, but they remastered. I like one of his 729 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 5: sessions not too long ago, and I've been listening to 730 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 5: it and it's super amazing. It's called a thing move. 731 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 5: It's amazing. 732 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 2: Nice. Nice. 733 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 5: Oh no, it's some time around. It's amazing. 734 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 2: Do you post ship? Do you make TikTok and whatever? 735 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: Do you do? 736 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 2: You do you put things on the internet? 737 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 5: No? I don't. I think that's my problem. 738 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,760 Speaker 2: Are you nervous? 739 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 740 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 5: I do get nervous about it, but I try. I'm 741 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 5: trying to break out of my shelf. 742 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 2: Are you nervous that the the twelve year old boys 743 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 2: that you're gunning down in this video game are gonna 744 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 2: find out that you make music and mass like one 745 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 2: starret on whatever streaming service you put it on. 746 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 5: Now, I am m hmmmmm. 747 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 2: See you're nervous. Wise it like I think I'm being perceived. 748 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 2: Not exactly, Okay, So what's the issue. 749 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 5: I think it's just I've been working on getting to 750 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 5: a level that is, I guess good enough in my head, 751 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 5: but I think that just keeps getting to a higher standard. 752 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 5: And then uh, and then I put I used to 753 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 5: put myself down a lot, but I've tried to how 754 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 5: do you say, like, calm that down, which I have, 755 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,760 Speaker 5: And now I've I feel a lot more comfortable. And uh, 756 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 5: I've been a little bit more active in making music lately, 757 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 5: you know, I've been trying to. I've been creating more 758 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 5: songs and and uh really practicing more and playing and 759 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 5: getting on ableton and just and starting something a lot 760 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 5: more often then I haven't you like met with like 761 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 5: thinking about it, which isn't so hard on myself. 762 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 2: Are you enjoying the process? 763 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: Oh? 764 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 5: I love it? 765 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 2: Now? Ah okay, well let me do it. You'll be fine. 766 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 2: You'll be fine. You'll be You'll be better you you 767 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 2: making music in your room and showing it to no 768 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 2: one and enjoying doing that, You'll be happier than somebody 769 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 2: who's like, uh, just I don't know, trying to go 770 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 2: trying to get TikTok famous for the sake of getting 771 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 2: TikTok famous. You know what I'm saying. So you're fine, 772 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 2: You're gonna have a great life. I think, uh, I 773 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 2: think I think you got it going on. Do you 774 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 2: do you feel that way? Uh? 775 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I do think so. I know. I have amazing 776 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 5: people in my life. But my best friends are are 777 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 5: listening to the show right now, and man, I love 778 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,240 Speaker 5: them so much. They're awesome. 779 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 2: That's cool. Man, You're gonna get back there and they're 780 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 2: all gonna call you gay for saying that. 781 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, they call me gay already. They're probably only gay 782 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 5: this second. 783 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah it's fair. Uh well, Nick. 784 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: So wild? 785 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 2: Is there anything else you wanted to to say before 786 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 2: we get out of here? 787 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,320 Speaker 5: I hope you hit that blinker? 788 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 2: What is that meme? Why have I been seeing that 789 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 2: a rounds. 790 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 5: All because of blinkers? When you hit your vappen and 791 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 5: you hit it until the vappen blinks because it just 792 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 5: can't get it just can't power anymore. 793 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 2: Never been long. I don't want to do that. It 794 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 2: sounds it sounds like too much. 795 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 5: It is too much. 796 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 2: But okay, thanks for explaining what that means. I was 797 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 2: wonder what that meant. You hit? You do whatever with 798 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 2: your life? Hey, how do I get free pizza from you? 799 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 5: Uh? Dude, I don't even get free pizza, Like, I 800 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 5: barely get free pizza. So I mean you can you 801 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 5: can get them. 802 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 2: You don't have to. You don't have to actually get 803 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 2: me an answer to that question, Nick, thank you very 804 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 2: much for calling ghak Bless you and enjoy God, enjoy 805 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 2: your life. I'm jealous of you. You get to eat pizza 806 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 2: and get high, and well, I guess I can do 807 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 2: that too, all right. In fact, I'm gonna actually go 808 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 2: do that. 809 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 5: I hope you enjoy that. Thank you. Thank you for 810 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 5: having me on. I really really I love your show. 811 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 5: You You're my favorite streamer. I listened to like every 812 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 5: single one of your episodes. Oh yeah, you know, like 813 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 5: your your show is amazing. 814 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 2: Thanks. 815 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 5: What you do for people is just awesome. You know, 816 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 5: the things you have on really give me different perspectives. 817 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 5: And you know, after watching your show, I think about 818 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 5: some things you know, very like how do you say 819 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 5: very like niche topics very differently and openly. And I 820 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 5: really appreciate your show for that. 821 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 2: Thanks man, that makes me feel very happy to hear. 822 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 2: I'm always wondering if people are listening to this, so 823 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 2: I I I appreciate it, man, I really do. Good 824 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 2: luck good luck to you, good luck to in your life. Damn, 825 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 2: I'm fucking awkward. I wish I had a better I 826 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 2: really do appreciate you saying what you said, and I'm thinking, like, 827 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 2: what's the best most gracious way to respond to you. 828 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 2: You know what you can say? 829 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 5: You can say ya? 830 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 2: What does that mean that? 831 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 5: I mean you already know? 832 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:10,839 Speaker 2: Oh yeah to sabe Uhlana de Lapplia baby, Oh yeah yeah? 833 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 2: So balla adios? 834 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 1: Are you all from? 835 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:24,839 Speaker 2: Hello? Hello? What's your name? 836 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 3: Hailey? 837 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,399 Speaker 2: What's up? Hailey? Has life? 838 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 7: It's all right. 839 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 2: Is there any particular aspect of it or of anything 840 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 2: that you wanted to talk about tonight? 841 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 7: I didn't nothing specifically. I just wanted to chat. 842 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 2: Okay, well you you said that your life was was 843 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 2: could be better? Yeah, I guess Okay, well what would 844 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:54,720 Speaker 2: make it better? 845 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 7: Just like a better job, an apartment, just ship like that? 846 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,359 Speaker 2: Where do you? What do you do now? As a job? 847 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 4: I work at a zoo. 848 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 2: That sounds like a cool Actually know that that sounds 849 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 2: like a horrible job. 850 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 4: It's it's fun. 851 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,919 Speaker 7: It's just it's just like we're under like a new 852 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,839 Speaker 7: employment people system, so it like sucks hard right now? 853 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,799 Speaker 2: Have the pigs taken over the farm? Is your boss? Adirafte? Uh? 854 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? 855 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 2: Unfortunately that's uh, I would want. I would. If my 856 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 2: boss was a draft, I would quit too. I would 857 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 2: be like, this is actually no, I wouldn't know would stay. 858 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 2: That'd be awesome for your boss. 859 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,760 Speaker 7: Was a direst I think I think maybe a giraffe 860 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 7: could run the zoo better. 861 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 2: Probably ooh shots fired zoo director get fucked? Uh yeah, okay, 862 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 2: well all right, so you work at the zoo. You 863 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 2: get to touch koalas and. 864 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 8: Oh I'm making pretels, man, I just worked at like 865 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,280 Speaker 8: the food and beverage service. 866 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 2: You make pretzels at you make pretzels at the zoo. Yes, 867 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 2: you're like that. Fuck, You're like, dude, you're like the 868 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,359 Speaker 2: grandpa from Up. That's like Grandpa from Up. 869 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: Job that you have. 870 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 4: That is so funny. 871 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 2: You're like that guy. How old are you? 872 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,760 Speaker 7: I am that guy? I'm twenty. 873 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,839 Speaker 2: Okay, it's a little too young to be making pretzels 874 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,359 Speaker 2: at the zoo. 875 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 7: Was too young to be making. 876 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:36,800 Speaker 8: Pretzels at the zoo. 877 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,799 Speaker 2: Because the guy who makes whoever, the person that makes 878 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,359 Speaker 2: the pretzels at the zoo is supposed to like. They 879 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,760 Speaker 2: don't just make pretzels. They give you inspirational life lessons 880 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,720 Speaker 2: that can only be fully understood by people who've lived 881 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 2: at least seventy five years of life. 882 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 7: No, that's not true. 883 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 2: That that's how it works in the movies. All right, 884 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,280 Speaker 2: you make pretzels at the zoo? Why is it? Why 885 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 2: is it? Why does that make you unhappy? Why is 886 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 2: that bad? 887 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 7: Like working at the zoo? I mean it's not it's 888 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 7: not like the job itself, Like it's fun. I like 889 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 7: seeing the animals and stuff whenever I get to. But 890 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 7: it's just like the people who run it have like 891 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 7: ruined it hard. 892 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 2: How much of a dick do you have to be 893 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 2: to ruin the zoo? What are they doing to ruin it? 894 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 8: They just they just treat them like shit, Like they 895 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 8: took away like we would get like a free meal 896 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,839 Speaker 8: a day, but they like took that away and then 897 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 8: make us pay like twenty dollars for like extra uniform. 898 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,840 Speaker 2: Really even even the animal, even the animals get a 899 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 2: free meal a day. 900 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 8: I know they treat them better than us. 901 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 2: Have you said that? Have you? 902 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 1: Have you? 903 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 2: Have you stormed in? Because that's the perfect thing, that's 904 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 2: the perfect thing to say to your boss at the zoo. 905 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 2: You treat the animals bend than they do us. That's 906 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 2: a perfect thing. 907 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I would say that to him, but 908 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,319 Speaker 7: I don't get to like talk to the big man. 909 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 7: Just like there's like people who are in charge of us, 910 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 7: and then there's people in charge of them, and then 911 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 7: it's like a big thing. 912 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 2: Is the pretzels? Is making the pretzels the lowest rung 913 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 2: of the ladder? 914 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 4: No, I think. 915 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,440 Speaker 7: I think security guard security guard, they get paid less than. 916 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:33,799 Speaker 2: Really, really you get Can you get paid less as 917 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,759 Speaker 2: a security guard than you do for making pretzels? Let 918 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 2: me tell you why that's fun? 919 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 3: You know what? 920 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 2: So I was at I went to a zoo recently 921 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 2: in Australia shout out to the Lone Pine Koala Sanctuary. 922 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 2: I went there and it was the first time I'd 923 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 2: ever gone to a zoo where they have a place 924 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 2: where it's like an open field sort of thing. There's 925 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 2: like a fence, but you can actually go in there 926 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 2: and touch and pet kangaroos and EMUs and all these 927 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 2: like big fucked up animals. And I was thinking about this. 928 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,319 Speaker 2: Thousands of people and they're very chill, Like little kids 929 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 2: run up to them and like you know, rub all 930 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 2: up on them and shit, and like they don't care. 931 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,319 Speaker 2: They're very docile. They might be drugged. I don't know, 932 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,360 Speaker 2: but I think about how much, like you know, thousands 933 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 2: of people are going into the zoo every day and 934 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,840 Speaker 2: interacting with these animals, and they're wild animals. There's no 935 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 2: real control there. How much tom fuckery has to be 936 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,320 Speaker 2: going on. There has to have been at least one 937 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 2: incident where a kangaroo kicked an old lady in the house. 938 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 2: And the security guard's job is to is to secure 939 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 2: these animals. So how is how are they that sounds 940 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 2: It just seems like an important job. The mall, the 941 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 2: zoo security. 942 00:55:54,000 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 4: Guard, well at mine just like to zoom and watched 943 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 4: the people more than the animals. But someone actually like 944 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,760 Speaker 4: fell into the quita exhibit like two weeks ago. 945 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 2: What was it? What was that? What was that? 946 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 5: Like? 947 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 2: Did they get did they get sucked up? 948 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 7: I don't think. I think the cheetah just kind of 949 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 7: like sat there and like looked at him because she 950 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,800 Speaker 7: was like with her trainer or something. So it's fucking weird. 951 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 4: They like locked down. 952 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,800 Speaker 7: The whole zoo is crazy. 953 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 2: Somebody fell into the cheetah. You're you're dude, you're literally 954 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 2: living in a in a in a little you know, 955 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 2: a little Disney movie. You're making pretzels at the zoo 956 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 2: and then a guy comedically fell over into the cheetah exhibit. 957 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 2: You're living in a in a in a cartoon. 958 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 8: Yeah, it was like it what. 959 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:58,240 Speaker 2: I don't want to ask? What zoo or kat? What? Uh? Okay? 960 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 2: What else is bad with your life? These all sound 961 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,880 Speaker 2: like good, funny things. 962 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 7: I don't know, just a lot of like I don't know, 963 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:13,359 Speaker 7: family drama and stuff that kind of thing. 964 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,240 Speaker 2: What uh I mean you don't have to get into 965 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 2: that if you don't want to. 966 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 7: But what. 967 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 2: Do you do you want to? 968 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 1: No? 969 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 7: Maybe maybe not right now, but we can talk down. 970 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 2: That's cool. Honestly, I'm glad it is it bad that 971 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 2: I'm glad that you said no? So that we can 972 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:37,920 Speaker 2: talk more about the zoo. 973 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 7: I would love to. 974 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 2: There's been a lot there's been a lot of conversations 975 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 2: on this podcast about deep issues between family members and 976 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 2: not not a lot about guys falling into cheetah enclosures. 977 00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,479 Speaker 2: So we might as let's balance it out. What's your dream? 978 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 2: What's your dream? 979 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 7: Well, it was when I was little, it was like 980 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 7: always to like be a zoo keeper and stuff, So 981 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 7: I guess it's still that. So I'm just like, I 982 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,480 Speaker 7: don't know, kind of getting closer to that. 983 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 2: But I love that idea though, that you're gonna you're 984 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 2: gonna rise the rank. This is sick. This is sick. 985 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 2: You're gonna rise the ranks from doing the pretzels to 986 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 2: be to owning the zoo. 987 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's honestly like it's happened before, people go from 988 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 7: like the food service to like being a whole zoo. 989 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 5: Keeper and stuff. 990 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 7: So it's definitely possible. 991 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 2: That's sweet. I like, I like that idea. I'm trying 992 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 2: to think of what else I know about zoos. What's 993 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 2: the coolest animal they got at this zoo? 994 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:50,920 Speaker 1: God, I don't know. 995 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 7: They have a lot of animals. For me, it's the 996 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 7: red Pandas. They're really they're really cute. Are my favorite? 997 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I like I like red Pandas. That's like 998 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 2: the that's the guy from Red right turning red? 999 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1000 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, what kind of what kind of geckos are they? 1001 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 2: Day geckos? 1002 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's actually one of those, and they have like 1003 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 7: crested geckos and ship all the geckos. 1004 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 2: Man, that's awesome. Do they do they ever? Do they 1005 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 2: look like they have any thoughts? 1006 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 7: Maybe some we don't. We don't know about We're never 1007 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 7: gonna find out. But they do. 1008 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 2: Do they look sad? Ever? 1009 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 4: I think, you know, I think maybe they do just 1010 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 4: like like sitting in that cave all day and just having. 1011 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 7: Kids just like smear their faces and lick the glass. 1012 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 7: Might it would make me sad to have to live 1013 00:59:58,960 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 7: in there? 1014 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well maybe that, you know what? You know what? 1015 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 2: All right, I'll give you a blessing m hm. That 1016 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:22,439 Speaker 2: will cosmically. It won't ensure anything, but it will cosmically 1017 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 2: point the universe. And I'm gonna manifest it. I'm gonna 1018 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 2: cosmically point the universe in the direction of you one 1019 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 2: day owning the zoo, working your way up from the 1020 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 2: pretzel making. But you gotta do me a favor before 1021 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 2: I do that. 1022 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you got to. 1023 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 2: Promise me that when you own the zoo, you will 1024 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 2: free the geckos. 1025 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 7: I promise loo, when I own the Zoo, I will 1026 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 7: free to get goos. 1027 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 2: You have my word, Hayley. Is there anything else you 1028 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,400 Speaker 2: want to that's probably not your Is that your name? 1029 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1030 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 2: Haley? Is there anything else you want to say to 1031 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go. 1032 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1033 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 7: Free the geckos man. 1034 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 2: Free the Geckos. That's going on the T shirt. See 1035 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 2: you Haley, yay, thank you fine. 1036 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,680 Speaker 1: Never be Ken goes on the line taking your phone 1037 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,919 Speaker 1: calls every night. Never beIN Can goes doing to ride. 1038 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 3: He's teaching you a loud in the mid your life, 1039 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 3: but he's not really an expert.