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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bowl Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Il's you Live on a First Friday Miracle edition. To

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Speaker 2: plead the Browns Daily, merely bow the great z. I

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Speaker 2: love the fabric that you're in. I just feel like

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Speaker 2: it's spectacular. In the blue, the blues in the royal blue,

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Speaker 2: not royal in the sense of what you think is

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Speaker 2: royal blue, but more real regal.

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Speaker 3: Maybe eagle blue is like I would love to see

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Speaker 3: this on this blue on like a a king's cloak

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Speaker 3: outlined with like some you know, snow leopard trim.

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Speaker 2: Perfect right sold, Yeah, that's it. Yeah, it's very nice.

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Speaker 2: It's very nice.

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Speaker 3: I saw it looks nice against the back croft of

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Speaker 3: the orange with the orange.

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Speaker 2: I saw this on with the there was a an image.

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Speaker 2: Great by the way, to thank you. I think that

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Speaker 2: the I think the Seahawks are doing new uniforms this

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Speaker 2: year and they're tweaking their blue a little bit to

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Speaker 2: they're calling it King blue. They're still gonna have the

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Speaker 2: Royal throwback, but their home uniform they're gonna go to

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Speaker 2: kind of like a mix between a navy and there

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Speaker 2: and the Royal throwback. It's pretty cool. They're gonna go

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Speaker 2: to like a gray hat and kind of really, where

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Speaker 2: have you seen him this morning? It was this morning.

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Speaker 2: It's a leak, or maybe some a fan put together

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Speaker 2: what they could piece together with the leak. But that's

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Speaker 2: I did see that today as well. So that color

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Speaker 2: reminds me very much of that. It's a beautiful color,

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Speaker 2: the one you were and I think they coined it

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Speaker 2: king blue is what they did. Do we have anything

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Speaker 2: to get to anything going on, anything going on? I

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Speaker 2: was prepping for my morning show this morning, and I

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Speaker 2: get up in the wee hours for that. That's a

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Speaker 2: that's an early alarm. By the way, snow day for

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Speaker 2: the kids, cold cold day, same old day instead of

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Speaker 2: snow day. We were basketball practice last night when we

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Speaker 2: got the word and that's as close to pure ecstasy

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Speaker 2: as you'll ever see. Is the notion as it was

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Speaker 2: traveling around their phones that they were out and it

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Speaker 2: was two minutes of just uncontrolled pure joy bouncing off

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Speaker 3: I got to tell my kids, who are much older

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Speaker 3: but still appreciate these days as much as they did

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Speaker 3: as they were when they were young. I told, I

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Speaker 3: told Arden. She wrote back, bless and and Boods gave

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Speaker 3: me a ya with a bunch of exclamation points.

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Speaker 2: Bootsie was so excited about it, he had a plan

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Speaker 2: for his breakfast. So when I had prepped my morning

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Speaker 2: show and then I handled the buddy business. By the way,

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Speaker 2: now pooping on command, which is incredible. I just say

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Speaker 2: go poop and he does. It's unbelievable. That's how he

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Speaker 2: just does it. Q like, go do it. I'd say,

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Speaker 2: go body, go poop. And if I say go poopy

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Speaker 2: goes and does it.

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Speaker 4: That just because of the cold weather.

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Speaker 2: It's happened in the last week or so. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how it's happened.

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Speaker 4: I mean I do that with my dogs. I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 4: we're not screwing around it minus five out, let's go.

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Speaker 3: I think it has to seem to look at me.

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Speaker 3: I'll be like, yeah, no, that we're doing that. Go

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Speaker 3: do it, and then then you get to come in.

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Speaker 2: I think it's because when I because I always walk

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Speaker 2: in morning and night, and when he does it. That's

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Speaker 2: always when he does it, and I might say I

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Speaker 2: must say it at that time to where he just.

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Speaker 5: Anyway he's doing it now, it's it's a game changer.

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Speaker 3: Can you can you give you a little update on

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Speaker 3: the condition of sweet little Asa. Yeah, so Friday morning,

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Speaker 3: nine am, I'm on with Mon Frere as I as

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 3: She's sitting on the couch.

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Speaker 3: She's sitting on the couch and all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: I get off the radio to touch it. She almost

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Speaker 3: bites me. She is yelping pain whatever. Yeah, my mom

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Speaker 3: comes over because I'm like, I gotta go to Houston today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got an injured Aasa and she's limping around hopping.

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Speaker 2: Miss Kay's at work help.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So she comes over and as soon as the

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Speaker 3: official nana comes in, Asa puts her paw on the

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Speaker 3: ground and is like, I want to go on a walk,

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Speaker 3: goes on a walk. My mom sends me the video.

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Speaker 3: She looks totally normal, cruising around, cruising around, everything's great.

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Speaker 3: I then get a call Friday night for miss Kay

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Speaker 3: or was Friday night or yeah, Friday night that now

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Speaker 3: ASA won't put her back right paw on the ground,

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Speaker 3: all right, So Saturday morning, rotating pause. Take her to

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Speaker 3: the vet. Sure, get to the vet. She's walking fine,

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Speaker 3: vets like there. I don't see anything wrong with her.

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Speaker 3: We get home from the vet. Okay, right paw back

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Speaker 3: in the year. She's back to being a three legged dog.

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Speaker 3: She's hopping.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's so what she want out of you?

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Speaker 5: She must want something out of you.

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Speaker 3: I would say yes, But here we are now on Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: First Friday's right paw has not gone onto the ground

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Speaker 3: got to bring her tomorrow and he's gonna like X

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Speaker 3: ray or check like something's going on. But at times

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Speaker 3: when she gets excited, she stands up on her back

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Speaker 3: legs and asks for her bone and she's fine.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. The damnedest animals.

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Speaker 3: But how did it go from her front to her

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Speaker 3: back and you can yank on her back, legs over compensated.

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Speaker 3: I think so maybe she's strained a muscle. Maybe that's

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Speaker 3: it could be the only thing I'll take.

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Speaker 5: Better, hope.

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Speaker 4: Trust me, dog's got two bionic legs. And we don't

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Speaker 4: want to talk about what that.

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Speaker 2: She already we've already made that. I told the boys

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Speaker 2: and Amy that at the beginning. If any of that

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Speaker 2: I'm not doing that now.

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Speaker 3: And I'm well, she's getting she's doing fine as a

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Speaker 3: three legged dogs, she's thriving.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: Obviously he didn't take care of it. I know, I

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Speaker 3: know you're not kidding. But so that's where this is.

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Speaker 3: This is the crisis.

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Speaker 5: Six a m.

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Speaker 2: I see a report from Josina Anderson. Oh boy, we've

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Speaker 2: got some changes reportedly this fast. Well we got till three.

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Speaker 3: Just don't dwell too much. I'm not, I'm not, I'm

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Speaker 3: just no pontificate.

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Speaker 5: I have no.

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Speaker 2: This is a great tweet.

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Speaker 3: Look at that, Look at that, look at it that

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Speaker 3: look it's painted on just it's just it is a painting.

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Speaker 2: It's a great tweet, a nice shoe. He's flipping his

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Speaker 2: tails on his coach. That was the best.

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Speaker 4: That's a new move.

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Speaker 3: Listen, if you're not peacocking, if you're not moving forward,

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Speaker 3: you're not you're getting worse. Right, if you're not making progress,

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Speaker 3: you're getting worse. You're not adding to your repertoire. And

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Speaker 3: maybe that's where we're at here, trying, you know, with

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Speaker 3: what you're about to dive into.

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Speaker 2: So report from Joe Cina that we are report we

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Speaker 2: are parting ways with Alex Van Pelt TC, McCartney tight

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Speaker 2: ends coach, and then Stunt Mitchell running backs coach. So

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Speaker 2: within an hour. Some of this is then corroborated by

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Speaker 2: Ian Rappaport Mary Kay I think Tone did too, the

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Speaker 2: TC and Stump parts of it. But the one caveat

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Speaker 2: with all of those reports was that a VP was

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Speaker 2: still under contract, and then it just kind of hung

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Speaker 2: there for much of the morning until a VP spoke

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Speaker 2: with Jake Trotter, who's going to join the at one

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Speaker 2: next one. Proud of my time. There So nothing official

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Speaker 2: from the team. No, I don't know if you're going

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Speaker 2: to get something. I would say it's more than a

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Speaker 2: report when you are directly quoted from Alex van Pelt

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Speaker 2: and then that is him telling you.

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Speaker 5: That feels like more than a report.

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Speaker 3: But I well, I remember when.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes not even that's enough, but he's quoted.

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Speaker 2: Who's got him the actual the one talk to him

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Speaker 2: this morning? Okay, told me, told me exactly anyway, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, So.

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Speaker 2: You've got some staff shake up here reportedly, we I

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Speaker 2: don't know when we will have any something official, but

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Speaker 2: this is several people who are reputable who have been

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Speaker 2: reporting this all morning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think we'll get something official. And I

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Speaker 3: think that if you look at it from a Brown standpoint,

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Speaker 3: you've had a lot of continuity on this staff. You know,

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Speaker 3: two changes from last year, right, and then you had

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Speaker 3: Petsing went to Arizona. You had you know, TC, this

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Speaker 3: the safety coach. Even though b Lynch was on the

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Speaker 3: staff last year as well well, then Joe and then

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Speaker 3: obviously at the top of it, Jim Joe Wood, Joe,

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Speaker 3: it's gone Jim Schwartz in ye yes, Joe for just yeah, gym.

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Speaker 3: We're talking in so much code, I don't sometimes I

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Speaker 3: don't even know where the hell we are, so.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, So the continuity was your point, Well, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I think that you know, they are very intentional

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Speaker 3: about everything they do here, ab Deep Oh, Kevin Stefanski,

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Speaker 3: and they are obviously in their opinion, there is an

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Speaker 3: opportunity to get better in certain spots that has to

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Speaker 3: you know, you're not making the move because you think, oh,

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Speaker 3: let's make this move so we can get worse. There's

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Speaker 3: clearly a notion that you think you're gonna get better.

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Speaker 3: And as you and I have talked about, I think

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Speaker 3: this morning, certainly when off season Nathan woke up to

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Speaker 3: a barrage of texts.

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Speaker 2: You're acquiescing to that you can be off season, Nathan,

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Speaker 2: I think off season, Nathan, how about off season? Z fine, okay,

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Speaker 2: off I'm gonna work. What about off zeason?

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Speaker 5: Off season sounds.

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Speaker 2: Like for the I'd work with the hof right. It

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Speaker 2: sounds like something you would pour out of a tap

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Speaker 2: into a pill, into a pint.

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Speaker 3: By the way, did you see the uh? The hoff

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Speaker 3: is currently in the mountains of Espanya.

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Speaker 2: I did. Did you see ibex? Is that what he's

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Speaker 2: going for? Is that the operation? Yes, he's going for

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Speaker 2: I oh, he succeeded.

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Speaker 4: He has succeeded something new for the trophy room.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like these these are massive. Yeah, they're called horns

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Speaker 3: at this point, I would imagine, right, I would assume

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Speaker 2: I think maybe none of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is just us connecting dots kids.

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Speaker 3: I think Atlanta might be the most desirable coaching job

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Speaker 5: Here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: I know where you're going for tons of talent, skill

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Speaker 2: just the one exception, Well, you'd have to get Fields.

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Speaker 3: They're having. They will get the eighth pick of the

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Speaker 3: second round, justin Fields.

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Speaker 5: Next year's two. I think it'll be two two's is

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Speaker 5: probably how it.

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Speaker 3: Will start with one two who says no, they have

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Speaker 3: the first ninth and then you have the eighth of

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Speaker 3: the night. So you have four of the first forty

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Speaker 3: one picks in the draft.

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Speaker 2: So Atlanta, I'm just trying to think who the biters

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Speaker 2: would be. I don't think it'll be the Broncos. I

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Speaker 2: would think the bidders for Fields would be Las Vegas

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Speaker 2: and Atlanta, with Pittsburgh as an outside.

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Speaker 3: The truth is, if I want I want Fields, and

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Speaker 3: I know that he is capable. In Chicago, he played

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Speaker 3: some good games in bad weather. But I think the

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Speaker 3: idea of having him in a dome is a wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Really nice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think it would be his choice, and I think

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Speaker 2: that the talent around him is very good there. His

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Speaker 2: ability to be successful with Bijon and then two big

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Speaker 2: big guys. Yeah, yeah, no, I think that. I mean

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Speaker 2: we've been trying to speak that into into existence for

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Speaker 2: like two years on the show. Is getting him down there?

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Speaker 2: I have been I guess so, yeah, I so is

463
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Speaker 2: that more attraction? So to me, let's do the Harbor

464
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Speaker 2: part of this. I think for Harbot's the Chargers. He

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Speaker 2: played for the in San Diego, knows the Spana's family.

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Speaker 2: Wife is from southern Caligornia, loves Herbert. His His view

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Speaker 2: of it would be franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Give me that guy, and.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 3: I'll make it work.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it work the rest of it. Like

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Speaker 2: I I got not who Bill is. If that's not

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Speaker 2: who Bill is, so this could be Iya the Beholder thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Monkin's the one I want.

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Speaker 4: Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: He did not interview there, but he interviewed with the

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Speaker 5: Chargers in the Panthers.

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Speaker 3: Why is he not interviewed in Atlanta?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean the University of Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that's the spot like him with Fields

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Speaker 2: and all of that. Yeah, because I don't know, like

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Speaker 2: knowing justin, I don't know that I it would really

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Speaker 2: matter a lot who Bill hired.

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Speaker 5: And I'm guessing he's gonna go McDaniels.

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Speaker 3: Don't you think it feels like it that's it go

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Speaker 3: with him?

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Speaker 2: That he would go with him. So unless he goes

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Speaker 2: back to New England runs Jared Mayo's offense. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but that's that's where you're at.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think those are very like Monkan absolutely should

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Speaker 3: not go to Carolina.

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Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't. I don't think anybody should. I think

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Speaker 2: you need a ten year contract to go there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you don't want it. I don't think you

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Speaker 3: want any part.

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Speaker 2: I think you want any part of that job. We

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Speaker 2: had some retirement Jason Kelcey retiring. Reportedly it seems like

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Speaker 2: it's he hasn't had like the presser yet, but like

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Speaker 2: it's this that's weird.

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Speaker 3: But he said he's going to take some time to

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Speaker 3: announce his future plans.

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Speaker 2: He wants to do it as part of the pod

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Speaker 2: and I'm sure make him do some big there.

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Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin says, I'm back. Baby.

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Speaker 2: Took it into his own hands with his availability yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep, I like it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then no, huh huh and then uh. Caleb

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Speaker 2: Williams did the day. The deadline to declare was a Monday,

510
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Speaker 2: so he had all of the guys making the final

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Speaker 2: choices on that. Caleb Williams was in there was we're

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Speaker 2: in a tricky spot. And I actually ran into it

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Speaker 2: this morning with Josina. Where in the old days, on

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Speaker 2: on the Twitter, which is still the number one like

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Speaker 2: breaking news source that there is, yep, And in the

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Speaker 2: old days, like I would look for verification and then

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Speaker 2: I would look for following, because sometimes you get a

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Speaker 2: fake clarification for varication and following. Now it's wild West

519
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Speaker 2: on verification. You just pay for it and you have

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Speaker 2: it or you don't, and and so then you have

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Speaker 2: to track down following. So like on the Joe Cina

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Speaker 2: tweet this morning, in regard to our reported changes on

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Speaker 2: our staff, I was I went right to followers, like,

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Speaker 2: what's the number that you're at on that? And then

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Speaker 2: I saw it was, well, this is Joe Cina. The

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Speaker 2: same thing happened with Caleb Williams last week. There was

527
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Speaker 2: a fake account that was a fake beat reporter. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's an actual beat reporter, but somebody made a fake

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Speaker 2: one god and tweeted that Caleb Williams wasn't going to

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Speaker 2: go pro unless he had assurances that the Bears would

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Speaker 2: not take him yep. And then it was pushed everywhere

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Speaker 2: like as if it was real, and it almost got

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Speaker 2: me because you know, you were on a plane and

534
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Speaker 2: I was I was like, I think this is pertinent,

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Speaker 2: and I had a like triple check to make sure

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Speaker 2: that it wasn't real. But several people had pushed it

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Speaker 2: out in the meantime, reputable people had pushed out something

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Speaker 2: that was nonsense in the meantime, so there was no

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Speaker 2: A lot of people thought went to bed on Friday,

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Speaker 2: think Caleb Williams wasn't going to declare unless he got

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Speaker 2: assurances he wasn't getting picked by the Bears, and that

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Speaker 2: just wasn't the case, although it would be smart if

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Speaker 2: I were him, Like, I wouldn't want to go to

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Speaker 2: that organization as good as that everything is there are

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Speaker 2: You've never done anything with quarterbacks ever.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, Eli Manning did that.

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Speaker 2: Not playing for the note thanks, I'm good and didn't

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Speaker 2: did not no, and it worked out for him because

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Speaker 2: he won two Super Bowls with the Giants and the

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Speaker 2: Chargers haven't won one.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that what's the percentage you'd put on

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Speaker 3: that being the outcome?

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Speaker 5: Caleb?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like not playing in Chicago?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like how real is this?

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Speaker 2: I think the problem is is much like justin you

557
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Speaker 2: are you will be intoxicated with the idea of if

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Speaker 2: I win here, winning a winning in Chicago, and especially

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Speaker 2: like a star quarterback in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're gonna be up. They're going to have

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Speaker 3: an opportunity to surround you with a ton of talent,

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Speaker 3: a lot of talent.

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Speaker 2: You already have studs all over the place. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: pick it eight. You're gonna pick whatever somebody gets you

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Speaker 2: get for the fields. Pick so, I mean you're you're

566
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Speaker 2: going to get the second best receiver in the draft.

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Speaker 2: Marv's daego to Carolina, to Arizona and then probably Roma.

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Speaker 2: Dunzie is gonna end up the kid at Washington is

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Speaker 2: gonna end up being your guy if you will go

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Speaker 2: that way.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Arizona frisky. That's why Seattle job to

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Speaker 3: me is not a good one. Atlanta, I mean, San

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Speaker 3: Francisco is gonna be great. McVeigh showed that he's gonna

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Speaker 3: make it work, and Stafford doesn't look anywhere near done.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I think Arizona is going to be frisky. Put Marv

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Speaker 3: on that team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's ready made. Yeah, he's good to go,

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Speaker 2: all right. Jake trotter Or spoke with Alex van Pelt.

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Speaker 2: What can you tell us about that conversation and Avp's

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Speaker 2: thoughts of what reportedly. I mean, you talked to him specifically,

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Speaker 2: So for him, what happened today?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, there was a lot of confusion about

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Speaker 8: where what his status was, right, I mean, we had

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Speaker 8: reports saying he was fired, we had reports that he

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Speaker 8: wasn't fired. You know, I'd heard from the Browns in

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Speaker 8: an official capacity that everything was still being evaluated and

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Speaker 8: that he was under contract. So I just reached out

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Speaker 8: to AVP myself and he said that he is no

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Speaker 8: longer going to be on the Browns coaching staff, He's

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Speaker 8: moving on to his next step, and that he's proud

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Speaker 8: of his time in Cleveland. So I do think it

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Speaker 8: was and continues to be, to some degree, kind of

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Speaker 8: a murky situation. I don't know if fired is the

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Speaker 8: word I would use to describe the parting of ways

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Speaker 8: between AVP and the Browns. But the Browns are going

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Speaker 8: to be looking for at least three new assistant coaches

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Speaker 8: this offseason.

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Speaker 3: What do you kind of what was your initial reaction

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Speaker 3: to the reports and then obviously your ability to go

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Speaker 3: talk with AVY people, What was kind of your initial reaction?

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Speaker 3: What do you think the thought process may be here.

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Speaker 9: Surprised.

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Speaker 8: Honestly, I did not anticipate that move being made.

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Speaker 9: I didn't. I didn't, you know.

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Speaker 8: I thought if, obviously, if AVP had an opportunity to

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Speaker 8: call plays elsewhere, that he would have left. But I

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Speaker 8: didn't think that what has happened or is happening was

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Speaker 8: going to happen, you know, as recently as earlier this week.

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Speaker 8: So it was a surprise to me, and I think

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Speaker 8: it was a surprise to a lot of people in

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Speaker 8: the organization as well. You know, there's always, you know,

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Speaker 8: usually going to be some kind of shake up, right,

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Speaker 8: And I wouldn't say the Stump decision surprised me. And

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Speaker 8: you know, for whatever reason, the Browns and Stefanski decided

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Speaker 8: to move on from from TC the tight ends coach.

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Speaker 8: But I was surprised by a VP because I think

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Speaker 8: he's very well thought of by by a lot of

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Speaker 8: players in people in the building.

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Speaker 9: So it was a little bit of a.

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Speaker 8: Surprise to me. Is I'm sure it was this I'm

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Speaker 8: degree for you guys as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you get a sense from a VP what

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Speaker 2: his feeling was on it? Was there that same surprise

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Speaker 2: from him?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, nothing nothing that I can really, I'm you know,

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Speaker 8: I'm still trying to kind of figure.

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Speaker 2: Out, Okay, okay happen.

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Speaker 8: I think by the end of the day, I'll have

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Speaker 8: a bread a better feel for it. I mean, I

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Speaker 8: think I know what happened, but you know, I don't

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Speaker 8: want to say something I haven't reported myself yet.

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Speaker 9: So sure, I'll just say that.

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Speaker 8: Again. I think a VP was valued and and I

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Speaker 8: don't think that they, you know, felt like this was

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Speaker 8: a guy that we just we can't can't have around anymore.

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Speaker 8: We got to move on from. I wouldn't characterize it

659
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Speaker 8: that way, all right.

660
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: And we'll, I'm sure get some of those insights as

661
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 3: the day unfolds and figure out if it was, you know,

662
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: something like they maybe wanted a change of title, whatever whoever,

663
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: We'll find out.

664
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think you might be on the

665
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 8: I think you might be on the right tractor.

666
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: So obviously the Browns are now at least it would

667
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: seem Jake to be in the market for a new

668
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. Bow and I have talked about, you know,

669
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: job won this offseason, and job one through one hundred

670
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: this offseason is getting this offense as good for Deshaun

671
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 3: Watson and getting him as comfortable doing the things that

672
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: the offense will require. That's job one, right. So that

673
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: being said, what do you think it is maybe that

674
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: they are looking for or who if you have names

675
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: that they may be looking at to fill this potential

676
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator void and buttress what Kevin Stefanski already does

677
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: so well at his core.

678
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I.

679
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 9: Think it depends on this.

680
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 8: Is Kevin Collin plays next season and if he is,

681
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 8: then that's going to change your candidate pool. If he isn't,

682
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 8: then I think there's some names that could be in

683
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 8: the mix that might be a bigger splash.

684
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 9: Right.

685
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 8: So I have no indication that Kevin's not colling play.

686
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 8: I don't know that this move is signifying that, but

687
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 8: it is going to be something worth looking into. And again,

688
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 8: I don't know if it's something that's being contemplated, but

689
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 8: if it is, then then I think you have an

690
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 8: opportunity to bring maybe an offensive mine calling plays that

691
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 8: is more familiar with the type of offense they want

692
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 8: to run with the Shawn.

693
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 9: I mean, we all know this the.

694
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 8: Offense they're running with Joe Flacco, that is Kevin bread

695
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 8: Butter and you you tell by some of the plays

696
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 8: he was calling that like he was in a groove

697
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 8: and it never really felt that way when Dashawn was

698
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 8: at quarterback. Now, was that you know, health reasons? Was

699
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 8: that just the performance of the quarterback? Was that, you know,

700
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 8: them trying to fill each other? I don't know, but

701
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 8: I mean they were way better offensively when they were

702
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 8: running the offense with Joe Flacco than they were trying

703
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 8: to run the version of the Deshaun Watson offense.

704
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 10: Yeah.

705
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: I mean you the stretch you had with Flacco is

706
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: the best, most explosive, most dominant offensively that we've had.

707
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: Derek Anderson had a run in O seven that was

708
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: really good, But other than that, it's like Bernie like

709
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: Baker had a But there was some moments. But those

710
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: four games were monsters. Yeah, well all those four games

711
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: were monsters that were bombs. I mean it was chunks.

712
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: It was black O as the big arm and he

713
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: is the best at doing the things that Kevin is

714
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 3: the best at scheming and sequencing, and so it worked.

715
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: And so I think part of this offseason and Jake

716
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 3: is not just getting somebody in here who can who

717
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 3: is more comfortable doing things or maybe has even worked

718
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: with DeShawn in the past. But it's also a little

719
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: bit on DeShawn right to become. If he can become

720
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 3: an under center, back to the back, defense, play action

721
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 3: passer like Flacco did, now you have you can have everything.

722
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 3: So imagine they're bringing in is gonna be somebody that's

723
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: gonna buttress the shotgun game, buttress their motion packages, buttress

724
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: the things that DeShawn is used to doing. And if

725
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: you can have the marriage of all that, then all

726
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you can be explosive from any scenario.

727
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly.

728
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 8: And again, I like, you know, what is this role

729
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 8: going to be. Is it going to be similar to AVP?

730
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 8: Is it's going to be something different?

731
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 5: Right?

732
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 8: And I think the answer to that is going to

733
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 8: determine what the Canada pool actually turns out to be.

734
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we don't you know that that's yeah, we'll

735
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: find out hopefully there's some clarity on that as the

736
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: day goes along. In terms of the off season, I

737
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: guess let's we haven't a chance to talk to you

738
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: about the way that this season was for you. Looking

739
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: back on it, it was it had every single up

740
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: and the lows were incredibly low with the injuries to

741
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: Chubb and the injury to Watson. The highs you couldn't

742
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: get higher. And you've been here for a while now

743
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: on the beat, and is certainly remember twenty twenty and

744
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 2: some of the highs there, but that was COVID and

745
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: so we didn't have full houses in those things. What

746
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: was this season like for you to cover this team?

747
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 8: Well, it was the first playoff game I've covered in

748
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 8: five seasons, because, as you mentioned, I wasn't traveling in

749
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 8: twenty twenty to Pittsburgh or Kansas City, So it was

750
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 8: fun to actually cover it playoff game. And if you'd

751
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 8: told me.

752
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 9: At the beginning of my stint.

753
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 8: Here it it'd be five years before I covered a

754
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 8: playoff game, I would have been stunned by that. But

755
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 8: obviously extinuating circumstances, and the team has been up and

756
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 8: down over the last five years, so I will say,

757
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 8: I mean, I think this. I would probably divide the

758
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 8: season into two different halves. It was, you know, it

759
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 8: was basically dominated by is Watson gonna play?

760
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 9: Is he not gonna play? Is he hurt? Oh he's back?

761
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 8: Oh he plays the best game of his career in Cleveland.

762
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 9: Now he's out for the year, right. That was like

763
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 9: the first half of the season, and.

764
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 8: It was extremely chaotic, and you know, you didn't know

765
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 8: who was going to start at quarterback week to week,

766
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 8: and you didn't know what you were going to get

767
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 8: out of the quarterback who started. So that that was

768
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 8: the and then you know, we kind of knew the

769
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 8: defense was going to be dominant pretty early on, but

770
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 8: I just think the quarterback chaos sort of overshadowed everything.

771
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 8: And then the second half of the season it was

772
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 8: you know, this defense is for real. And then oh,

773
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 8: by the way, you've got this magical out of nowhere

774
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 8: Joe Flacco's story. And so I felt like it was

775
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 8: kind of a tale of two seasons. And you know,

776
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 8: the back half.

777
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 9: The season was a blast to cover.

778
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 8: I mean, it was really fun covering that stretch with Flacco.

779
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 8: And you know, I think I told you guys this, like,

780
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 8: it was a really good locker room to cover. It

781
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 8: is the best one I've had since I've been here.

782
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 9: This is a lot of good guys. I thought it

783
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 9: was a lot of good.

784
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 8: A lot of a lot of players in the locker

785
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 8: room who were a approachable and be like just super

786
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 8: insightful and interesting to talk to. And I think in

787
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 8: a tweet a couple of weeks ago, I shouted out

788
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 8: some of them that didn't win the Good Guy Award,

789
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 8: which went to Potonio. But like, honestly, I could have

790
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 8: I could have voted for ten fifteen different guys, and

791
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 8: there were a couple of seasons here. I had hard

792
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 8: time like narrowing it. I had a hard time like

793
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 8: picking two or three to consider. So it they done

794
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 8: a really good job. I think stuck in this locker

795
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 8: room with the type of you know, play players to

796
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 8: get the kind of chemistry that you need to you know,

797
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 8: build a winner in the NFL. So it, I would

798
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 8: say the last two months of the season was the

799
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 8: most fun I've had covering the Browns in five years.

800
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 4: It was.

801
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 3: It was a special time. It was it was a

802
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: very very special time. And and that's why, you know,

803
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: what I've kind of said is this was not a

804
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: fitting end to what was a very magical season. And

805
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 3: that's kind of how I felt about what happened in Houston.

806
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 3: But that doesn't change how great these four and a

807
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 3: half months were. And the Browns obviously feel like they

808
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: need to make some changes going forward, and that's kind

809
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: of how you end up where you were today. You

810
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: mentioned the locker room, and I think you've always had

811
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: a very good sense of this from our conversations. Do

812
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: you think what they established in that locker room this

813
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 3: year is and there will be changes on the roster

814
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 3: there are every year, but do you think that that

815
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: kind of baseline culture is something that we'll be able

816
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: to be carried forward by this organization?

817
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 8: Yeah?

818
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: I think so.

819
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 8: I mean, I think you know, we got to see

820
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 8: what happens at quarterback.

821
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 9: That's gonna be the big question mark, like is.

822
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 8: Is that gonna come around? Because we just it's we

823
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 8: don't know, right, it's just been all over the place.

824
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 8: But you know, just from like Miles Garrett stepping into

825
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 8: the leadership role that he did this year, which I

826
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 8: don't think always was the case, is big. And then

827
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 8: you've got guys like you know, you've got You've had

828
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 8: guys like like a Walk and Amari and obviously like

829
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 8: the Tonio and just veterans that I think the younger

830
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 8: guys you know, have really learned from and I think

831
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 8: they're going to continue that culture when the A Walks

832
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 8: and the Amari's you know, maybe gone or you know, retire,

833
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 8: move on to a different team. So I mean, listen,

834
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 8: it's not you got a ways to go before you

835
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 8: have like a championship type culture that we we've seen.

836
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 9: At other places.

837
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 8: But I think they're on the right track. I mean,

838
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 8: if I compare it to twenty nineteen, you guys remember

839
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 8: that twenty nineteen season. Yeah, now, yeah, it feels like

840
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 8: night and day to me. And I think that there's

841
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 8: just more accountability in that locker room. There's less selfishness, is.

842
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: That the right word?

843
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 8: Like there's this is more of a team spirit that

844
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 8: I think is really important, and I think it helps

845
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 8: that like your best players are kind of leading the

846
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 8: charge too.

847
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 5: Yep. Yeah.

848
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: And they've all they all grew up here, right, I mean,

849
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: you go back you talk about nineteen, I mean you

850
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: think about you know, Miles and Joka. I mean you

851
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: think about the guys who developed into like faces of

852
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: the organization. They were all drafted here. They've grown up

853
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: here together. And so that's how you do it, is

854
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 2: you've gotten now a bunch of guys. Forever it was

855
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: like draft picks don't get second contracts around here, and

856
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: now they're all getting second contracts around here, So that's

857
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: that's part of it, and it's the other The flip

858
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: side of that is for the winning and the culture

859
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: and the belief and all of those things to continue,

860
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: you you also have to strike right now because the

861
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: iron could not be hotter this. All of the guys

862
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: we're talking about are in their prime. Jake there either

863
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: already entered it there in the middle of it. The

864
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: time is now in an AFC that is ultra ultra competitive.

865
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: You think of the job Andrew Berry has this offseason,

866
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: My gosh, he's got critical questions to answer it running

867
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: back at receiver, and he's got a cap that he's

868
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: got a maneuver as well. I mean, this is he

869
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: lives for this, we know that, but there is a

870
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 2: lot that's going to go into this offseason for him.

871
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's no doubt. And back to what you were

872
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 8: saying earlier, it's not just the guys they drafted. I

873
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 8: mean they've brought you guys like Dalvin Thomlinson, you know,

874
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 8: great locker room.

875
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, the Darius.

876
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 8: Has stood in really nicely with Miles you know, I

877
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Speaker 8: think it a better so than we've.

878
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 9: Seen some of those ins in the past.

879
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 8: Obo has been a great locker room edition. I mean,

880
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 8: I think Amar is just an absolute pro, you know,

881
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 8: plays hurt, you know, just a tough guy and and

882
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 8: a gamer. I mean, like I go down the list,

883
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 8: like there's just a bunch of guys that they've brought

884
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Speaker 8: in on top of fit the one Joneses of the

885
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Speaker 8: world that they've really hit on j okay. So yeah,

886
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 8: I mean, like the window is now, you're not you know,

887
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 8: you're not building for something in the future.

888
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 9: And it's not gonna get any easier because in addition.

889
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 8: To Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen and Joe Burrow is

890
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 8: going to be back in Lamar.

891
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 9: Now you've got CJ. Stroud you got to deal with.

892
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 8: I mean, it's just not gonna get me easier. And

893
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 8: we don't know what the schedule is going to necessarily

894
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 8: look like when we get to it, but on paper,

895
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Speaker 8: it is an absolute load next year. I mean, on paper,

896
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 8: it looks like a much tougher schedule than what the

897
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Speaker 8: Browns face face this season.

898
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Speaker 9: I mean, you've got you've.

899
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 8: Got Mahomes, You've got Herbert come in to uh you know, Cleveland,

900
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Speaker 8: You've got to uh you've got Dak Prescott. I mean

901
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Speaker 8: it is, it's gonna be a lot. You know, it's

902
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 8: gonna be a huge challenge. And then you know this

903
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Speaker 8: this team I think could get better in areas like

904
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 8: they probably need more firepower at receiver. You know, do

905
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 8: they need to draft a running back with you know

906
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 8: the situation with Nick Chubb, Like when is he gonna

907
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 8: be back? What's he gonna look like when he's back.

908
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 8: I wouldn't be surprised if they took a running back

909
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 8: on you know, day two.

910
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 9: What are they doing at the offensive tackle position?

911
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 8: Like everybody there is hurt, so like it's gonna take

912
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 8: a little while before you can work through it. I

913
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Speaker 8: mean Dwan Jones last I saw him was still on crutches,

914
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 8: so he's got a long road back as well. But uh,

915
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 8: you've got to be better offensively than what you've been

916
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 8: I think, to really feel like you have a good

917
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 8: shot to get to the super Bowl because that should

918
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Speaker 8: be the expectation for this team going forward. And you know,

919
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 8: I think it goes back to that, you know, some

920
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 8: of the coaching shakeup they've made, they know that as

921
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 8: good as they were with Blacko, Like this team is

922
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 8: gonna live and die by what Deshaun Watson and this often.

923
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Speaker 9: Looks looks like next season.

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00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly is great reporting out of you. But

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you, kut Are your time today and jumping

926
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Speaker 2: on with us, and look forward to reading the rest

927
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Speaker 2: of your coverage on the matter. Thanks Pal.

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Speaker 9: Sounds good, guys. Kick care all right.

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Speaker 2: think you're Mike Son. Are you plugged in?

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Speaker 8: Hi? Now?

945
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Speaker 5: I who knows?

946
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Speaker 4: That's my bad?

947
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Speaker 2: Yes, seven minutes in a business shirt today is a business.

948
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Speaker 4: I liked his shirt. I told him you think.

949
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Speaker 5: Of the shirt.

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Speaker 2: Look at your business shirt today.

951
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 5: Your business Your business shirt's on.

952
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 4: Business is picking up that business for what I don't know,

953
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 4: but running a business here somebody is, yeah, so good

954
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 4: to see you.

955
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 5: How are we doing.

956
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: We're good, We're good. You know, we're just getting started.

957
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: Listen, we got a long off season to go.

958
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 4: We're forty eight hours into this.

959
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Speaker 2: Here's the good news is that you're still going.

960
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Speaker 5: So they are.

961
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Speaker 3: We can talk about that. Yeah, did you guys happen

962
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Speaker 3: to see as a fun I guarantee, I'm pretty sure

963
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Speaker 3: me be diligently to make sure that it didn't make

964
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Speaker 3: it in you know, didn't. Did you guys happen to

965
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 3: see the question that Todd Bowles was asked that was, yeah, probably.

966
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 2: It's got to be a top. It's on a mount rushmore.

967
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 3: Of most absurd questions that have ever.

968
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: Do you know the back story on that?

969
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 3: I don't?

970
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: Okay, so that is from what I understand it's a

971
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: television station in Tampa that asked the question.

972
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 5: The question that was asked was.

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00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 3: How are you preparing to play in the weather in Detroit?

974
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: And if added the caveat of if the game is

975
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 3: in Detroit, which the game is in Detroit fact, and

976
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 3: they play in a dome and had been playing in

977
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 3: the dome for quite some time.

978
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well really the whole operation, I mean, Silver

979
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 2: Dome fifty years probably, so the reason that that happens,

980
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: and according to my sourcing down there, I got a

981
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Speaker 2: former intern or as a sports director down there at

982
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Speaker 2: one of the stations that was a television news report

983
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Speaker 2: who was asked to go to the press conference by

984
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Speaker 2: management and is not, in fact their normal coverage. So

985
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: this is not somebody who's on the Bucks beat. This

986
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: is not somebody who even covers sports. But because local

987
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: TV is being hatcheted at every level, and what used

988
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Speaker 2: to be probably a three person all sports depart it's

989
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: now maybe a no person sports department. But they got

990
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 2: to have their Bucks stuff, so they send somebody there

991
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Speaker 2: who has no idea what they're doing, and that's how

992
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Speaker 2: it happened, That's.

993
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Speaker 5: What I was told.

994
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 4: I don't care I could see that.

995
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 3: I can see that, but it's not a good question. Regardless,

996
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 3: the onus would be on that person to.

997
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 2: Not ask the question. It's what I think the owners

998
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: should be. Don't talk. Don't talk.

999
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 3: You're only there to record anyway, and if you are

1000
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Speaker 3: going to ask questions, you research something so that you

1001
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 3: know what you're asking is actually intelligent.

1002
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 4: I've seen more people defending that person today for.

1003
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Speaker 5: The reasons I just laid out.

1004
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure, and and for others they're like, it's

1005
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 4: a real tough job. I'm like, no, no, they can

1006
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Speaker 4: put the work in.

1007
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 3: Well, and you know the game set.

1008
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: You should know that. Should know that's a basic on

1009
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: your way to the press or even if you have

1010
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 2: no point of reference on football or the NFL or anything.

1011
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 3: What am I going to this weekend? Where is the

1012
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: Who the Bucks play Detroit? Where do they play them

1013
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 3: Ford Field? If you're going to ask the question, then

1014
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 3: you have to do that vetting.

1015
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: The simple thing to do would be just point the

1016
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: camera and don't say anything correct and let everybody who's

1017
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: there all the time ask the questions. I'm sure somebody

1018
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: said ask them about the weather. My guess somebody on

1019
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: a news desk and ask them about the weather in Detroit,

1020
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: and somebody on the news probably didn't even realize that

1021
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 2: they play indoors.

1022
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 5: That's probably they don't watch either.

1023
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 2: Are they living.

1024
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 5: Under a rock?

1025
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 4: You'd be surprised.

1026
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: It's they're on every Thanksgiving. This isn't like going to

1027
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 3: But if you don't watch it every week, there.

1028
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 5: Aren't that many people who don't.

1029
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: You have come across in your irregardless on Thanksgiving seeing

1030
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 3: the Lions playing in a dome, you have, you have

1031
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: been countered that in your life, no matter how much

1032
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: or how little you watch football, care about sports, all

1033
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 3: of it, you have.

1034
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: You have that is you have there. Yes, you need

1035
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: to pull that file.

1036
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 5: Here we are. Yeah, that's a that's a quick google.

1037
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 3: I think you're welcome by five minutes.

1038
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Speaker 5: I did see that. I did see that.

1039
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 4: There's no need for you to count it down every day.

1040
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 4: I know we're forty eight hours into the off season.

1041
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 3: No, no, you're mistaking that, not counting it down. We

1042
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: have got We've got a lot of content to fill

1043
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 3: on Clean Brown's Daily.

1044
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 4: We're putting together some big stuff, the.

1045
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 3: Clean Brown's biggest story about them. We are not we

1046
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 3: have not confirmed yet, more so we can't offer really

1047
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 3: any insight into it or what the next steps might be.

1048
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 5: Correct.

1049
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:34,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, the reporting, and we discussed the reporting. Somebody asking

1050
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 3: a question about the weather in Detroit. If they play Detroit.

1051
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 3: It's good. It's good fodder. It's a good banter.

1052
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: It is.

1053
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1054
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: And then you also got the full context of the

1055
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: story and how it happened.

1056
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Speaker 3: Great job by you, so you got it all. We're

1057
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 3: painting a rich tapestry for our audience right now.

1058
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 5: Really are getting the people what they want.

1059
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Speaker 4: How about a little higher lower let's.

1060
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Speaker 3: Do against the people.

1061
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Speaker 4: It's better or worse? I don't know about that. How's

1062
00:50:58,800 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 4: your finger?

1063
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 3: Actually great, tremendous and rough shape.

1064
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 2: Yesterday did a great day.

1065
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 4: You're good until you got the lemon juice in it.

1066
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, last night I was making a delicious sounds

1067
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: great recipe.

1068
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 5: I made.

1069
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Speaker 3: Souvi eat and then finished on this my my new pant.

1070
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: I got the Stanley Tucci pans for Christmas. Oh it

1071
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: was good, the the big one and then uh frying pan.

1072
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: And the big one is I can't wait to make

1073
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 3: a pasta. I'm like so excited already.

1074
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 5: He's real excited.

1075
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 2: About when he's in Italy.

1076
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 4: He's going back.

1077
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: I love that. Shook so excited. He has a book.

1078
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: That's about kind of his family, his you know, food

1079
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 3: is love and basically his family and his upbringing and

1080
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: like through the lens of food. And it's awesome. And

1081
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 3: I actually use some of the things that he did

1082
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 3: in his ragou in when I make my it's more

1083
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 3: of a meat sauce and a traditional bolonies because I

1084
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 3: do have more of a tomato based to it, but

1085
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 3: like the way that he cooks the tomatoes, and it

1086
00:51:58,840 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 3: makes a big difference.

1087
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 2: It was like a aime changer. Yeah, it's awesome.

1088
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 5: It's great book.

1089
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: I haven't If anybody you'd like to read it, I'll

1090
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 3: bring it in.

1091
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: Do I know anything he's acted in? Yes, you stand

1092
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: and place it. Yes, he's every Like I can't think

1093
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 2: of one movie he's in, and yet I feel like

1094
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 2: I've seen him in a thousand billion movies.

1095
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ocean's any one of the Oceans movies.

1096
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 5: No, that's Andy Garcia.

1097
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.

1098
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: I think he's definitely in a Hunger Games series.

1099
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 5: Okay, I haven't seen that. I'm pulling up the Thank god,

1100
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 5: you're not missing anything.

1101
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 3: He's in a ton of stuff.

1102
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 2: No, I know he is, I just don't.

1103
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 5: I can't name it movie.

1104
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 2: I know I've seen him in a bunch of stuff,

1105
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: but I can't think of the movies he's in, all right,

1106
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: So I pulled up Double Wares Prada. I haven't seen

1107
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 2: it the inside, man, it's I've seen that. Yeah, I

1108
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 2: mean Captain.

1109
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: America, More Hunger Games, Beethoven, Big Night. That says movie

1110
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: about a restaurant, which is really good.

1111
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: I haven't seen. Well, now, I don't feel so bad.

1112
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that many of these. The Pelican bree Light,

1113
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 2: Spotlight Pelicans the one that I that would be the

1114
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: one that I have seen the most.

1115
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 3: That I'm Made in Manhattan. Fine, I don't know that.

1116
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 4: I've got a point of reference on.

1117
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 3: You've never seen Made in Manhattan? Think so get out

1118
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 3: of here? Think so what that's like a classic early

1119
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 3: two thousands rom com.

1120
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1121
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 3: Ralph Finds j Lo is like a Made in Manhattan

1122
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: and Perfect Falls in Love.

1123
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: I got nothing on that.

1124
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's that's shocking to him.

1125
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean movie, but we're not going to go

1126
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 4: down that road.

1127
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pelican briefef there's another one.

1128
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 5: The reason why I watched it.

1129
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 3: He was in the Tom Hanks vehicle Road to Perdition

1130
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 3: in two thousand and two.

1131
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 5: I never saw that. Good movie. That's a good movie.

1132
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: Undercover Blues in ninety three also a good movie.

1133
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:53,959
Speaker 5: I don't remember.

1134
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I haven't seen as many of these ass

1135
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 2: as I thought I would have.

1136
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 5: He's worked a lot, Yeah, and I haven't seen a.

1137
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 3: Lot of them.

1138
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 5: I think he's the bad in the Pelican Breath. I

1139
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 5: think you're pretty sure he's the villainy.

1140
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 10: I like that guy though.

1141
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 2: Anyways, you were slicing something up. What were you making?

1142
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 5: Oh?

1143
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, last night, So I was making a the pork

1144
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 3: chops kind of in this like and then it was

1145
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 3: an arugula and frisee salad with a lemon, parmesan, olive oil, salt,

1146
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 3: peperins dressing.

1147
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 2: All that was good.

1148
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 3: And then the pork chop had a little hot honey

1149
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 3: and lemon juice. And so when I did a lemon,

1150
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 3: somehow I cut it and squose it, and all the

1151
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 3: lemon juice shot right into my wound, which stung a

1152
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 3: great deal.

1153
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 2: It stung, which stung a great deal, A great deal.

1154
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 5: Like in the Gilded age for a second.

1155
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 3: It stung a great deal.

1156
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: What's rather unpleasant or great anythings?

1157
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 5: It's sting.

1158
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 3: Few as much as that, I can assure you.

1159
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 4: All right. This is from ESPN dot com. Seth Walder,

1160
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 4: our friend from ESPN and the analytics department there the

1161
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 4: NFL MVP bout for twenty twenty three, ranking his top

1162
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 4: one hundred players. All right, one hundred.

1163
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 2: He ranked one hundred players for MVP.

1164
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 4: The AP expanded its NFL MVP bouot to include a

1165
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 4: top five ranking. I want more, however, especially because the

1166
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 4: NFL MVP award is almost by definition of the league's

1167
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 4: best quarterback, which is both correct and kind of boring.

1168
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 4: All right, what happens if we expand that list? It

1169
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 4: means other positions come into play. We have to tangle

1170
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 4: with the tension between varying skill levels at positions of

1171
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 4: differing importance. Let's see how he came up with the ranking.

1172
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 4: This is a purely descriptive exercise. He says, all that

1173
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 4: matters is which players generated the most value in the

1174
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 4: regular season. Okay, my ballot represents my opinion, which is

1175
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 4: heavily influenced by quantitative evidence such as past block win rates,

1176
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 4: our receiver tracking metrics.

1177
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 5: Okay.

1178
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 4: He also factors in all pro teams and qualitative information

1179
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 4: such as Pro Football Focus grades.

1180
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 5: Okay.

1181
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 3: By the way, they didn't even have c J. Stroud

1182
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 3: and I generally like profables. I like it more for

1183
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 3: the information necessarily rather than the grading. But directionally, it

1184
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 3: always typically feels directionally, right.

1185
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 9: C J.

1186
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 3: Stroud is not the fifth best quarterback to take the

1187
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: field over the weekend.

1188
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 2: That's what they had him as. Yeah, he missed five throws.

1189
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: He was pretty good, wasn't he?

1190
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 5: Seventeen to twenty two?

1191
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: Whatever he was was very good, near perfect quarterback rating

1192
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: they had him as.

1193
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 4: Not sure felt like it was.

1194
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 3: It was like a seventy something rating, which isn't bad.

1195
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 3: But I think Mahomes was ahead of him. Perhaps I'll

1196
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 3: find it.

1197
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 4: I'll find it, all right, all right, let's kick things off.

1198
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 5: Kevin Ardole Fire were lower.

1199
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 4: His number one the Wonder Years out of one hundred, Yes.

1200
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: That before that with what a m but sounds the same. Yeah.

1201
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 5: I never knew that.

1202
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 2: I never knew the full name. They have no point

1203
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: of reference on that.

1204
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 3: You guys know what The Wonder Years is no chance

1205
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 3: way do you know Fred Savage's I've heard that name before.

1206
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: I bet you know his brother was his brother.

1207
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 3: He was on the ship.

1208
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 4: There they are Ben Savage.

1209
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 5: That's boy.

1210
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, Boy meets World.

1211
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 4: With the nickname Wonder Years.

1212
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: There's z grew up with it.

1213
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 3: That's good.

1214
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: Ye, it's not a bad nickname. No, like hell of

1215
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: a that's a hell of a series. Great series. I

1216
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: was at a wedding in Montclair, New Jersey, and on

1217
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: my buddy got married. The bride grew up with Paul

1218
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: from the Wonder Years and I have not Marilyn Manson,

1219
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 2: not the same guy. I have a picture. He had

1220
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 2: all of his ribs too. I had a picture with

1221
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 2: me on one leg and Paul from the Wonder Years

1222
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: on the other leg doing the chair thing. No way, yeah, yeah,

1223
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 2: I have it doing the horror. Yeah, and he's here.

1224
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:14,959
Speaker 2: It's great, it's great.

1225
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1226
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 3: I knew somebody once who knew Winnie Cooper.

1227
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 5: That's better.

1228
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: That's I think.

1229
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: Was on the boat Sleigh Moon Fry, Peak of her Powers.

1230
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 5: That was peek.

1231
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 3: Kevin Arnold, I forgot.

1232
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 4: You're trying to speed it up.

1233
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 5: That's different.

1234
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: No, we're just having a conversation.

1235
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 5: In here.

1236
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 4: Oh, you're kind of moving your hand like.

1237
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: No, I was.

1238
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 9: I was.

1239
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 2: I was gesturing to the room. We're trying to do

1240
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: a show in here.

1241
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 3: Uno, No, I'm really enjoying this. There is no authority

1242
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 3: of any He jumped in that day when Gibe wasn't

1243
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 3: you jumped? He jumped up? What did you do?

1244
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 5: Ray?

1245
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 4: All Righteth number one hundred, marshmallow Man.

1246
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 3: For the record, I have seen Ghostbusters. Just didn't get

1247
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 3: the reference in the moment.

1248
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: I just want to clear that up. I have seen Ghostbusters.

1249
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 3: Well, we asked, have you seen Ghostbusters?

1250
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 5: And you don't know.

1251
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: You knew the line from the movie.

1252
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 5: I'm not.

1253
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 3: Peter Bankman.

1254
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, I knew none of that.

1255
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 5: Are you the key master? Are you the gatekeeper?

1256
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 3: Gate keeper and the key master?

1257
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 5: Sure?

1258
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 4: When someone asks you if you're the gatekeeper, you say.

1259
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 5: Yes, yes.

1260
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 3: Maranis so good?

1261
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 5: Is great? Yeah? Just up and he retired after one

1262
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 5: of the honey.

1263
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 4: The kids shut it down, walked away.

1264
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 5: He just hit it was everything was a hit for him,

1265
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 5: crushed it.

1266
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 4: Uh number one on his list seth Walder m v

1267
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 4: P balloting Dak Prescott mm hmmmm higher when you release

1268
00:59:54,800 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 4: uh this was out? Uh yesterday, tough, tough hit. It

1269
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 4: has to be regular season.

1270
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: Well, sure, I mean like you'd like for your guy,

1271
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 2: who you have is the most valuable player in the

1272
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: league to get through the first weekend.

1273
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 3: By the way, I think it was Parenthood where he

1274
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 3: shows up in his wife's classroom and sings why do birds? Yes,

1275
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 3: it was suddenly.

1276
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: That's a powerhouse scene.

1277
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 5: What are pipes on? You just felting that out right?

1278
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: You are need very nice, very nice.

1279
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 5: Release.

1280
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 4: Uh Dak Prescott number one not for me, now, just worse, worser, worse.

1281
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: He's worser than Lamar, Lamar.

1282
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 4: I don't even we gotta go down a little bit. Wait.

1283
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 3: I saw a graphic as it relates to Josh Allen

1284
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,959
Speaker 3: real quickly that they are, you know, twenty two giveaways,

1285
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 3: most in the league or second most in the league.

1286
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: I think it was.

1287
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 3: He also counted for forty five total touchdowns. So if

1288
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 3: you're gonna give me two touchdowns for every time that

1289
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 3: you do something bad, I think I'm going to live

1290
01:00:58,920 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 3: with that, be okay.

1291
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: And you also even just to limit it just to

1292
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 2: touchdowns and turnovers, you're also you're not giving proper credit

1293
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: to the threat that he is to a defense running it. Yeah,

1294
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 2: you're not taking that into special the fake slide?

1295
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 3: Am I gonna slide?

1296
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: And that I'm gonna accelerate?

1297
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 5: Watch me, boy?

1298
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 2: He had some juice.

1299
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 5: He did. He did have some juice.

1300
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 2: Next higher core lower.

1301
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 4: Number two is Josh Allen, number three year guys pick

1302
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 4: for MVP. Lamar takes us to number four Patrick Mahomes

1303
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 4: higher lower or just right Bishop.

1304
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 5: So the argument would be that Mahomes, who by the way, had.

1305
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 4: His worst year season pro correct that.

1306
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 2: What Walder is saying here is that even Mahomes at

1307
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: his worst elevates those around him and gets Kansas City

1308
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: to have the season that they have. And I think

1309
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 2: there's probably some truth to that. I would have probably

1310
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 2: I would probably go Lamar one. I think Dak is

1311
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 2: the right to if you just shut it off with

1312
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 2: the regular season. It's hard to do because we all

1313
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 2: saw what happened over the weekend. But I do think

1314
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 2: Dak is probably the right two. And I don't have

1315
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 2: a problem with Josh three. If you want to go

1316
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,959
Speaker 2: position player, I think the guy he has at five

1317
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 2: is the guy that five or seven.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, McCaffrey, Yeah, McCaffrey or Tyreek like one of those guys.

1320
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Speaker 2: If you to be position players, those guys could go up.

1321
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 2: And I would, honestly, and I know this is this

1322
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: could be and this.

1323
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Speaker 3: Is fun for debate purposes, but I think I would

1324
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 3: put Rock Party ahead of Mahomes this year. I know

1325
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 3: you say, well, how can you put him up there

1326
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 3: if you already have CMC, Like can they have two

1327
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 3: guys in the top ten on offense? Perdy is really

1328
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 3: good this year, really good outside the Ravens game in

1329
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 3: our game other than that, really really really good. I

1330
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 3: mean historically so and quite frankly, the other person who

1331
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 3: should be in the top ten, that's not.

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Speaker 2: It's CJ. Shroud that would be the other one.

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01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: Did they lose both games? He didn't play No. One one.

1335
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 3: They beat the Titans.

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Speaker 4: That was a uniform gate they in overtime.

1337
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way they leaned that game because we're

1338
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 3: playing Tennessee.

1339
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 5: Was up big in that game.

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01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,439
Speaker 3: They lose the game, we're playing it, yeah, big big

1341
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 3: and then they.

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01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: Came back yeah Keenum, Yeah, No, CJ should be on there.

1343
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 5: He should be a top.

1344
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 3: When you do that, when you have that stat and

1345
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 3: it's just eighty nine Montana two thousand and seven, Brady

1346
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 3: and twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 5: C J.

1348
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 3: Stroud, You're in the top ten. Next, where's brycey.

1349
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill was number five, The first non quarterback on

1350
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 4: the list. CD Lamb was number six, Christian McCaffrey seven.

1351
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 4: And it takes us to the.

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01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 2: Belief that was I don't know if I'm gonna be

1353
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: any better than that.

1354
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 3: You say that it gave a great burn like we

1355
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 3: were in the that seventies show basement right there.

1356
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 2: Because Stanza did that too. Remember he was always trying

1357
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 2: to leave every room on a high idea.

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01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 4: Literally would sit on make one comment. All right, everybody,

1359
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 4: we'll see it.

1360
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 3: He's very diligent employee for the Yankees.

1361
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 4: Boy, the number one defensive player on SETH Walder's MVP

1362
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 4: ballot is Micah Parsons higher lower or just right Zigura.

1363
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 3: And so Miles is nine, which means in his mind,

1364
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 3: Micah Parson should be Defensive Player of the Year. I'm

1365
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 3: curious and we'll see what happens. But obviously from the

1366
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 3: point that he hurt his shoulder, yeah, Miles Garrett was

1367
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 3: still very effective and dominant, but he was not finishing

1368
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 3: the deal as he did. I think he had thirteen

1369
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 3: sacks in the first ten games won in the last seven,

1370
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 3: had he continued at his previous trajectory. I think it's

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01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 3: a no brainer, and he's probably in the top like four.

1372
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 3: You just wonder does that hurt him at the end.

1373
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 3: I still think he's the most dominant defensive player in

1374
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 3: the league, So I would put him.

1375
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 2: I'd put him ahead of Micah, but I can understand it.

1376
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 5: The other thing that's really hard, I would too.

1377
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 2: But the thing that's really difficult about this is when

1378
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 2: you're doing this now, we have the context of what

1379
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 2: happened in the first round. Yeah, and our defense and

1380
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 2: the Cowboys defense got blitzkrigged, So.

1381
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 5: That makes it harder.

1382
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 4: You know, just needed to come out last week.

1383
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like his first thing with Dak, it's tough

1384
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 2: with that too, Like, how do you you can't see

1385
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott is an MVP after the way that it happened.

1386
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: And the thing with Lamar is it wasn't really until

1387
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: the last month that he won it. You know, he

1388
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: was in the mix and sort of talked about, but

1389
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 2: he wasn't at the top of the conversation. It was

1390
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 2: Jalen hurts. It was, but it was pretty That was

1391
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 2: all of that. But then he had the closing arguments

1392
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 2: with San Francisco.

1393
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 3: That's what the perponent city in Miami and Miami.

1394
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: So like he had these incredible games at the end

1395
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 2: where they like slammed home, we're the number one seed.

1396
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: He's a dude.

1397
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 5: The San Francisco game was so emphatic.

1398
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 2: I mean, that's, you know, what's wild.

1399
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 3: And it'll be interesting to see with them is and

1400
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 3: and they're humongous favorites, which makes me think they are

1401
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 3: gonna I just understand anybody would not be on c J.

1402
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 2: Stroud to at least make.

1403
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 3: An appearance at the back door with that kind of thing.

1404
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 3: So maybe they're just gonna boat race them. But that

1405
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 3: is a long layoff.

1406
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you're talking about didn't.

1407
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 2: Play week seventeen.

1408
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, two weeks.

1409
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 3: Well it's really three weeks. It's really three weeks since

1410
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 3: you last played a game.

1411
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't seen the numbers how.

1412
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 3: Big as of yesterday, and we could do it as

1413
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 3: yesterday nine and a half.

1414
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 5: Oh jeez, we didn't do because we figured you would

1415
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 5: see it.

1416
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 2: Did I said it? I said it.

1417
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 3: I'm a man of honor and integrity, and I think

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01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 3: it is nine and a half. Texans at Ravens is

1419
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 3: nine and a half. Packers at Niners nine and a half.

1420
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 3: Saturday games both nine and a half. Sunday Bucks at

1421
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 3: Lions is a six and a half. The only close

1422
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 3: spread in the whole thing is Chiefs Bills two and

1423
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 3: a half. Now, I would have Bills by two and

1424
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 3: a half, Bills by two and a half if.

1425
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 5: You would have had Niners more like ten and a half.

1426
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 2: Peckers are legit, No, I know they aren't, but I

1427
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: think that's still not buying them huge. They've been huge numbers.

1428
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 3: I would have thought Ravens Texans would have been about five.

1429
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 5: I was gonna say seven, around seven six and a

1430
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 5: half or seven.

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01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 3: And a half for them, Bucks Lions feels about That's

1432
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:33,959
Speaker 3: where I would have been, right around seven.

1433
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 2: I'd probably been a little bigger for the Lions. Little

1434
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 2: over seven, Yeah, seven and a half, Okay, Chief in

1435
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 2: the vicinity though right at three three three.

1436
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 4: Looking at this overall top one hundred list, he had

1437
01:07:50,000 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 4: four Browns offer MVP consideration Miles at number nine.

1438
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 2: Are you up for consideration?

1439
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:00,479
Speaker 5: Well?

1440
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 4: In his top one hundred, he had a ballot, he

1441
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 4: had one hundred games. He put four of our guys in.

1442
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 4: Denzel was number fifty, Number ninety nine was j Ok.

1443
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 4: I don't know if there was a game minimum, but

1444
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 4: I feel like, should have Flacco gotten on this list?

1445
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 3: Yes, he should have, and Jok should have been much

1446
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 3: higher up the list or much better, but no one.

1447
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 2: I think he has the right in two MVPs of

1448
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 2: the Browns and Miles and Amari like those are the

1449
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: two MVPs. That's the I also think I think Chief

1450
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 2: should be on there too, I really do.

1451
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 4: He was great, can make that argument.

1452
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 3: I think he's probably the second most complete tight end

1453
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 3: in the NFL when you think about what he did

1454
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 3: him blocking. If you're going to watch some of the

1455
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 3: big plays to Amary Cooper, he's blocking defensive ends and

1456
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 3: then he's going out and catching, you know, ninety yards

1457
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 3: worth of passes and a touchdown. Yeah, there aren't guys

1458
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 3: that do that. Him and Kittle. That's it.

1459
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 2: That's sure.

1460
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 3: As I'm looking right now, where's Kittle?

1461
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 4: Kittle is thirty five?

1462
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 5: Should be on the list. He should be on there.

1463
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 5: That's not that big of a.

1464
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 3: He should be on the list in in the top

1465
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 3: sixty at a minimum.

1466
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 4: Kelsey is seventy one one.

1467
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 5: And he's better than Kelsey this year.

1468
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 2: This year he was, he was.

1469
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 3: It just was.

1470
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 2: That's not it.

1471
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 7: Yea.

1472
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 4: There were only two tight ends on this list. If

1473
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 4: I'm doing my quick little.

1474
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: Go through everything, justin Jefferson on this list is eighty eight.

1475
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 2: He missed like six games, didn't he? Yes, at least

1476
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 2: at least, I mean I had.

1477
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 3: Him in me. He missed a ton of games.

1478
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's an interesting They've been a fun little exercise.

1479
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 9: Yeah.

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01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 2: I just think that if I'm if I were his

1481
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 2: last week, I would have it come out last week, yep,

1482
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 2: because otherwise the list is sullied by the last weekend's

1483
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 2: performance in the playoffs. You can't help but put that

1484
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,160
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Speaker 2: and we talked about this off the top. If you

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Speaker 2: you want to watch that. Our comments on the reporting

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Speaker 2: today of the changes in the coaching staff, and we

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Speaker 2: are waiting on official word on that. My hunches you're

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Speaker 2: going to get in about thirty four minutes, you're going

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Speaker 2: to get that. It's probably how that's going to go.

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Speaker 2: So we're kind of waiting on that. We did have

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Speaker 2: Jake on sometime this stafternoon, but you did have Jake

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01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 2: on as well, who talked about some of that as well.

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01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 2: In terms of the reported removal of Alex van Pelt,

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Speaker 2: Stump Mitchell, and TC McCartney from the staff. So those

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Speaker 2: things were addressed earlier in the program, and if something

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01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 2: happens here in the next thirty two minutes will happen.

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Speaker 3: And I think our core on offense is very much

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01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 3: intact and very good and effective, and obviously you need

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01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 3: Deshan to get to the proficiency we saw from Joe

1518
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,759
Speaker 3: Fleckell on that core, but I think you also need

1519
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 3: to get this offense more modernized in terms of the motion,

1520
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 3: in terms of the shotgun operation, all of those things

1521
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 3: that can maybe ourpo game a little bit that can

1522
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 3: be helpful to Deshaun Watson, which, as we've set the beginning,

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01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 3: is what everything is all about.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's the whole operation. Yesterday we toursy the end

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01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: the show. We spent a couple of minutes on this.

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Speaker 2: A couple of fan things that happened over the weekend,

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01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 2: the Kelly Stafford taking her daughters and saying that they were,

1528
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 2: you know, kind of verbally abused by Lions fans and

1529
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 2: then they for sure, but also nowhere you're gonna wear

1530
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 2: that jacket, don't wear that jacket, and they don't need

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01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 2: to be as much in the mix, Like I know that.

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01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 2: I'm sure from Herbert Kelly's perspective was like, look, we

1533
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 2: lived here for a decade, these kids were born here.

1534
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 2: This is our home. But to Lions fans, it's the

1535
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 2: first home playoff game in thirty two years, and you're

1536
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 2: the enemy.

1537
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 3: Maybe not in a suite.

1538
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 2: She was down on the field with him. I'm sure

1539
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 2: they were in as sweet for the game, but like, well.

1540
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins and the play at his family sit in

1541
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 3: the stance.

1542
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 2: But he ain't gonna pay for suite. You know that

1543
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 2: from the quarterback. Yeah, like he wasn't gonna do that.

1544
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 3: I saw that only one kid got to go. Yeah,

1545
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 3: I'll let my brother go. Okay, like one hundred and

1546
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 3: some million, and he can't guaranteed fully guaranteed.

1547
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.

1548
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you could afford ones for everybody. And then

1549
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 2: you had the Jerry Krause thing. And my point on

1550
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 2: that was he was honored in the Bulls Ring of

1551
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 2: Honor over the weekend, posthumously passed twenty eighteen. His widow

1552
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,759
Speaker 2: was there. They put Jerry Krouse on a big video

1553
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,600
Speaker 2: board and they booed as loudly as you can. And

1554
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 2: then they put the widow on the board and she

1555
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 2: was uncomfortable and crying and off. It's terrible, terrible, But

1556
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 2: to me, like, if you just tell them she's going

1557
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 2: to be in attendance, it's not as bad. Right, it

1558
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 2: wouldn't be It wouldn't have been as bad. It was

1559
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 2: ever gonna be good, but it was not gonna be

1560
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 2: as bad. So Charles Barkle is on inside YEP from

1561
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: inside the NBA last night addressing it.

1562
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 6: I want, I want to be very couple here because

1563
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 6: you know Chicago, I love that city. But what happened

1564
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 6: in Chicago the other night was a disgrace. It was

1565
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 6: a flat out this.

1566
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 4: Doing of Jerry Crowse Crowse hav his.

1567
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 6: Wife cry like that. That was wrong on so many levels.

1568
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 6: Michael and Scotti and Dennis not showing up.

1569
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 5: That was wrong.

1570
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 6: It was a complete disgrace to the legacy of the

1571
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 6: Chicago Bulls. They've always been a great, great organization, but

1572
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 6: for that thing to go down like that, not to

1573
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 6: have the greatest player in your organization there and won

1574
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 6: six championships and Dennis and Scottie and first of all,

1575
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 6: I don't even know why you would put one hundred

1576
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 6: guys in the Ring of honor anyway, that's just stupid.

1577
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 6: But what those fans did to missus Krause, that was

1578
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 6: not cool. And we owe that lady. Everybody involved that

1579
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 6: owe that lady and apology. Whether you like Jared Krause

1580
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,759
Speaker 6: or not. That man's dead, rest in peace. His wife

1581
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 6: is there and y'all made that lady cry and that

1582
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 6: was totally a.

1583
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 5: Wife, kids, grand gifts.

1584
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 2: That was wrong.

1585
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 6: Man had that lady crying like that. That hurt my

1586
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,759
Speaker 6: heart watching that thing was. It was painful.

1587
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 4: And that's not an indictment of all Chicago fans by

1588
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 4: any means, but those who boot chose to go that way. Yeah,

1589
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 4: I'm with you, and thanks for bringing that up.

1590
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 2: I don't understand how they don't acknowledge at the point

1591
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 2: I'm making.

1592
01:14:58,439 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if much as big as.

1593
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 3: Would have made.

1594
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 2: Some I think you you have some sense. Look, his

1595
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 2: widow's going to be there, in his in his in

1596
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 2: his place. I think there's some conscious to that to

1597
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 2: not do it at all, and to just surprise like

1598
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 2: they do. They even know who they're booing, They weren't

1599
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 2: even booing, or they're just booing his image because they're

1600
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 2: trained to do it. I think the more interesting story, honestly,

1601
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 2: from all of.

1602
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 4: This, I think I know where you're going, and I agree.

1603
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 2: Is what level of divide has happened there where none

1604
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 2: of the rest of them go.

1605
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 4: That would That's exactly how mj not there?

1606
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 5: Not there?

1607
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 3: He Yeah, the finality of death should at least allow

1608
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 3: you on some level. But they were all going in

1609
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 3: the hatchet, right, so they should all have been.

1610
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 2: So Jordan's should have been there. He was going in.

1611
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 3: Were they not there because of Kraus have no clue

1612
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 3: why they weren't there.

1613
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 2: And obviously think of Scotty and Michael get their own

1614
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 2: stuff with Michael's kid dating Scotty's ex wife and all

1615
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 2: that business.

1616
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 3: Watching season two of Traders are on there together.

1617
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 5: Whatever that is.

1618
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 2: And then you've got like Rodman, okay, wild card, but

1619
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,560
Speaker 2: like what happened between Rysdorf and Jordan.

1620
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 5: That he won't go to Chicago. I don't know.

1621
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 4: It made no sense to me, And like Barkley was right,

1622
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 4: what are you doing inducting one hundred people into this thing.

1623
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 5: Dude, one at a time.

1624
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,879
Speaker 2: Tonight's Michael Jordan Knight six months from now it's Scotty Pippenknight,

1625
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 2: and then it'll be Rodman Knight, and then then you

1626
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 2: do Kraus after all of that, because he does need

1627
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 2: to be in there. There is some He did not

1628
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 2: draft Jordan. He did the pip and trade. Uh, he

1629
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 2: drafted Horace Grant, but he did not draft Jordan.

1630
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 4: He took cou Coach though he.

1631
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 2: Did draft cou Coach. Yeah, but they helped. Remember they

1632
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 2: held that Jordan hated coup Coach. Yeah, because that they

1633
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 2: viewed it as they didn't take care of Scotti.

1634
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 3: So it's wild.

1635
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 2: It's a mess. Yeah, I don't know they have the

1636
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 2: all what it was the last dance stock.

1637
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 5: I mean that was our first.

1638
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 2: It was so entertaining and I think it came out

1639
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 2: during COVID yep, so it was That's why we all

1640
01:16:58,360 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: liked it so much because it happened at that time.

1641
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: Where's Jordan? And it was walk down Memory Lane? But

1642
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 2: that was the first of the sportswa washing docs totally

1643
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 2: where this isn't a documentary. This is the truth as

1644
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 2: I see it.

1645
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 3: When you are the producer and have final edit control, Yes,

1646
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 3: it's not a documentary. A documentary is supposed to be

1647
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 3: I think, by definition, an objective look at a individual, circumstance, event,

1648
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 3: whatever it is. This is, here's going to be a

1649
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 3: very interesting story through my eyes completely.

1650
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 5: This is it's not a lie if you believe it right,

1651
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 5: you know.

1652
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 3: And I took that personal.

1653
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I took that personal, and that's exactly what

1654
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 2: it was. There's one coming on Vince, which is Netflix.

1655
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 2: Is that him or is it?

1656
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 5: So?

1657
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 3: I've heard that it's supposed to be unreal if and

1658
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 3: it is going to They've interviewed everybody possible and it

1659
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 3: changed from what it was originally going to be to

1660
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 3: now what it is in terms of what's happened with

1661
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 3: him off out of the ring, he would call it

1662
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 3: losing control of the company. The reasons for all that, the payoffs,

1663
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,759
Speaker 3: all of it, like it's supposed to be fully comprehensive,

1664
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 3: and we already know we've gotten that great you know,

1665
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 3: gift for me where he yeah, we gets emotional, which

1666
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 3: is used for everything now, which is a good. It's

1667
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 3: one of my favorites. I can't wait to see it.

1668
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 3: He is a fascinating human being, for his life is fascinating.

1669
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 3: The things that he did are you're not going to

1670
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 3: agree with all of them. Not all of them are

1671
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 3: right or even you know, morally or legally defensible. But yeah,

1672
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 3: he is a fascinating person and I think this is

1673
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 3: going to be a very real, comprehensive look at that.

1674
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 5: I'm excited for that.

1675
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 3: Supposedly it was supposed to be like a one part thing,

1676
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 3: and now it's gonna it's it's Netflix is doing it's

1677
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 3: multiple parts.

1678
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, Yeah, there's a lot there. There's a lot there.

1679
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 3: There's I'll tell you this, and I feel like I

1680
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 3: have a little bit more insight just because of all

1681
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 3: the people I know who have worked for him for

1682
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 3: so long. There is so much more than anybody could

1683
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 3: even possibly fathom. Yeah, that needs to come out in

1684
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 3: Kennedy mac man Is.

1685
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,560
Speaker 5: I think it's coming out next month, soon February.

1686
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 4: I think, Okay, Like that's perfect. It's the perfect watching time.

1687
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 3: Not claw movie by the way that no are supposed

1688
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 3: to see it where you're supposed to be next week

1689
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 3: supposed be amazing.

1690
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's. I talked to a buddy

1691
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,759
Speaker 2: who saw it this morning, and I don't think it's.

1692
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 2: If you're going thinking it's gonna be like raw raw wrestling. No,

1693
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 2: it is dark side. The Van Eric story is very dark.

1694
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 3: It's very dark, and apparently the guy that gets to

1695
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 3: play Ric Flair is a disaster I've seen.

1696
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 5: How could you do that?

1697
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 3: Well, though, you could do that, well, there's a un

1698
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 3: mayb people who could do that.

1699
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 5: Well you think, I feel like that's a tough spot.

1700
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 3: Just put Will Ferrell in there is Astley Schaeffer, Let

1701
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 3: him do it. Yeah, I mean that's a There are

1702
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 3: a ton of Flair impersonators out there.

1703
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 5: That's true.

1704
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably should have just done that instead of

1705
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 2: trying to get an actor to do it.

1706
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 3: Yes, they should have just hired in person somebody who right, yeah.

1707
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 4: That impersonates them all the time.

1708
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 3: Right, there you go, that's truly work.

1709
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 2: That would work too, So yeah, there you go. We

1710
01:19:56,360 --> 01:20:00,759
Speaker 2: did have news down in Columbus. Athletic director Ross Bjork

1711
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 2: was hired this week down there. Shocking hire I think

1712
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 2: for a lot of people down there, because this assumption

1713
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,719
Speaker 2: was that Geene Smith, the longtime athletic director eighteen years,

1714
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 2: that it would be somebody from his tree, and Pat

1715
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 2: Shun was the name that was named most often. He

1716
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 2: was it's currently the athletic churcher at Washington State. I

1717
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:20,600
Speaker 2: don't want need to bore you with all the intricacies

1718
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 2: of it. I would just say that the most recent

1719
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 2: president higher and this athletic director hire are dramatic changes

1720
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 2: from the previous style of hires that Ohio State has

1721
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 2: made in the president's role and in the athletic director role.

1722
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 2: And what both of these hires to me signify is

1723
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 2: we are going full steam ahead into what the what

1724
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 2: new college sports will be, which is maximizing revenue, understanding

1725
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 2: that you're going to have to pay and compensate college athletes,

1726
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 2: locked in on collectives, fundraising to the hilt.

1727
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 5: That is what this hire was about.

1728
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 2: Ross Bjorke comes from Texas A and Toadam He actually

1729
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 2: wrote some of the legislation in the state of Texas

1730
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 2: on their nal law. So he is going to be

1731
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 2: ultra aggressive on that front. And it is very that.

1732
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 2: And Ted Carter, who's the president former Naval Academy, ran

1733
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 2: the Naval Academy, he was a fighter pilot. He's the

1734
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 2: new president there. They are incredibly different in tone ideologically

1735
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 2: than anybody they've hired in twenty years.

1736
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 4: I wanted to get your thoughts because it was interesting.

1737
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 4: Again the Texas A and M. I'm like, okay, well

1738
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:29,799
Speaker 4: that's not a Midwest guy, Southern dude. He's from Dodge City, Kansas.

1739
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 4: Was at Western Kentucky, Ole Miss and Texas A and M.

1740
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 4: And now he gets to run you know anything. And

1741
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 4: he left Texas A and M was seventy six million

1742
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 4: dollars Jimbo Fisher.

1743
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 2: So he did that contract, but it was not his

1744
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 2: correct doing. It was it was the boosters who demanded

1745
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 2: that he give Fisher that deal.

1746
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 5: They were fearfully he was going to leave to LSU.

1747
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 2: So he didn't. He did not do that deal.

1748
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 5: It was it was done above him. And that's the

1749
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 5: tricky part about being an athletic director.

1750
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 2: You're answering about a thousand people, You're answering to a board,

1751
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 2: you're answering to a present, answering to boosters. It's a lot.

1752
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 2: You gotta be a good politician. This guy to press

1753
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 2: conversation was very impressive.

1754
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 3: You're answering at that level. You're answering to like an

1755
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 3: army of Buddy garritys.

1756
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 2: You are answering yes, like in the boosters, like that

1757
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 2: billionaire Buddy Garritys billionaire buddies at A and M at

1758
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 2: Ohio State. You're talking about billionaire buddy guarritys, is what

1759
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 2: you're answering to, right, No, they don't have a lot

1760
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 2: of Yeah, like you know that, you know, Buddy Garrity No,

1761
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 2: I was laughing at what Griff said.

1762
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 5: What do you know, Buddy garrity?

1763
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 2: No, I don't know if we should. I don't know

1764
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 2: if we should. No, don't don't.

1765
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 4: Time to go to break. Yeah, we'll go to break.

1766
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 4: Joel buttony up.

1767
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1775
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Speaker 2: locker clean out Day at the podium. Joel Atonio, Let's

1776
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Speaker 2: go state of.

1777
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Speaker 11: Fat ankle not great, you know, it's high ankle sprain

1778
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 11: pretty good one so I didn't feel good this.

1779
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 10: Morning when I woke up to go to the bathroom.

1780
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 11: But I got a lot of time now, so I'll

1781
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 11: be able to to get it right, you know, fix

1782
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 11: my body and be ready to roll when the time comes.

1783
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 10: How are you processing this? What are your what are

1784
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 10: your takeaways from the season? Yeah, it was, Uh, it

1785
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 10: was a tough way to finish.

1786
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 5: You know.

1787
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 11: I give all the credit to Houston. They came out

1788
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 11: and and played great and you know, did a good

1789
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 11: job against us. But we didn't want to end that way,

1790
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 11: you know, and honestly we thought we were, you know,

1791
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 11: coming in half like defense, gonna stop and get the

1792
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 11: ball back. We go score and you know, the pick

1793
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 11: six happened twice and then he went for on fourth

1794
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:00,560
Speaker 11: and to get it.

1795
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 10: So like in a kind of a six minute span

1796
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 10: kind of game got out of reach.

1797
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:04,759
Speaker 5: For us there.

1798
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 10: But obviously the ultimate goals win the Super Bowl.

1799
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 11: But I don't think it diminishes what these guys did,

1800
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 11: you know, being resilient this year, coming together. I think

1801
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 11: the culture of this team and where we're at as

1802
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 11: a group of men that just like liked being around

1803
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 11: each other and you know, want to win for the

1804
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 11: city of Cleveland, like it's never been higher since I've

1805
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 11: been here. So I think that the future of that

1806
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,560
Speaker 11: is is something to look look forward to.

1807
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 2: Well for you individually, I mean this year, I know

1808
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 2: you're always being as an offensive Lindman.

1809
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,680
Speaker 9: But the knee, the back, the ankle, now, like it.

1810
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 10: Was running frustration for you.

1811
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 9: With the injuries this year and just having to deal

1812
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 9: with all that.

1813
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was honestly very frustrating for me this year.

1814
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 11: I came into the year and I felt great, you know,

1815
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 11: I was like, I'm not feeling old year ten, like

1816
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 11: you know, best year yet. And you know, from the jump,

1817
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 11: my knee just like wasn't there and obviously got to

1818
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 11: get the surgery coming back from that, it didn't allow

1819
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 11: me to train, you know, practice the way I wanted to.

1820
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,719
Speaker 11: And I think that kind of just like snowballs into

1821
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 11: the back, they'll bleak the ankle, I mean, the ankles

1822
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 11: freak I got rolled up on. But you know, all

1823
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 11: those other things kind of kind of add together, and

1824
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 11: it's it's something you you don't want. You don't want injuries,

1825
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 11: you don't want to be there and and I have

1826
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 11: high standards for myself, you know what I mean, and

1827
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 11: I want to live up to those standards I want

1828
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 11: for my teammates, for for the coaching staff and and

1829
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 11: things like that.

1830
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 10: And being hurt this year definitely took its toll.

1831
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 11: Go after ten years and general with all the stuff

1832
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 11: you dealt with this year, you planning to come back

1833
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 11: next year?

1834
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1835
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I I want to play, and I

1836
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 11: want to I want to show I could still play

1837
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 11: at a very elite level, you know, like honestly to

1838
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,560
Speaker 11: myself and to my teammates, like, hey, you know, I

1839
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 11: still feel like I played well this year, but I

1840
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 11: think there's always more and they always want to push

1841
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 11: yourself to to you know, be at.

1842
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 10: The top of your game. And I still feel good.

1843
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 11: You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna use this off season

1844
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 11: to to get my body right.

1845
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 10: But yeah, I plan to plan to be back. How

1846
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 10: how much do you think that everything affected?

1847
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean the hardest part for me was just

1848
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 11: not being able to train, like lift practice, like with

1849
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 11: the knee injury. You know, it's almost like you're taking

1850
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 11: a month off and lifting. You know, you come back

1851
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 11: and it's like, oh, it feels pretty good, but then

1852
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 11: you go into a game it's like, dang, I have

1853
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 11: to take this week off to get back to the game.

1854
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:20,719
Speaker 11: So I think it was just like the little things,

1855
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 11: and then that adds to towards the end of the season, you're.

1856
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 5: You're you know, you're back, you're oblique.

1857
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 11: Like all those things where it's like, oh, maybe I

1858
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:29,560
Speaker 11: would have been able to lift more earlier in the

1859
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 11: year or practice more. Those things that up. So it

1860
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 11: definitely affected it. And like you said, you want to

1861
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 11: be out there with your teammates. You know, I wanted

1862
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 11: to be out there yesterday. It'd have been a lot

1863
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 11: cooler if we would have won the game, but you know,

1864
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 11: I wanted to be out there with the guys and

1865
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 11: and compete with.

1866
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:49,919
Speaker 2: Them, you know, the the Parson team this year after maybe.

1867
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 11: The previous two years.

1868
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 9: Were you disappointed to not.

1869
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 3: Be on there this year?

1870
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it's you know, for Oliman, you know,

1871
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 11: it's kind of like we don't really get too many stats, so.

1872
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 10: It's one of the things.

1873
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 11: I think there's a you know, Thuny is a good

1874
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 11: left great left guard in this league, and he's been

1875
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 11: for you know, eight or nine years how long he's played.

1876
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,679
Speaker 11: Tyler Smith is is a young up and coming player

1877
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 11: is great. Quinn Nelson, Like, there's a lot of good

1878
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 11: left guards, So you know, I was hurt this year.

1879
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:19,560
Speaker 11: I played fifteen games, you know what I mean. I

1880
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 11: thought we we did a good job as an online

1881
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 11: with all the stuff that happened around us. But there's

1882
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 11: a lot of good left guards in this league. So

1883
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 11: if anything, it just drives us. You know, we'll have

1884
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 11: to try and try and get it back next year.

1885
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 8: Surprised that seemed like a Texans attack you guys deffinitely

1886
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 8: defensively yesterday from that first game.

1887
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 9: Uh, that caught you guys off guard a little bit.

1888
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 11: You know, I can't speak to like the coverages you

1889
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 11: know that that we face because I'm not really dealing

1890
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 11: with that. I thought their front was pretty similar. Maybe

1891
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 11: they bliss a little bit more than they did in

1892
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 11: the first game. I think he's made bigger plays and

1893
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 11: bigger moments, you know, those pick sixes, like we're we're

1894
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 11: very tough for us to cover from. But they did

1895
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 11: a great job. They kicked our butt yesterday pretty good.

1896
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 11: And it's kind of sucks in the season. On that note,

1897
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:10,599
Speaker 11: when you look at the line and just obviously Dylan

1898
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 11: and what just goes and pass to you about what

1899
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 11: you like to take.

1900
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 8: Times and come fast.

1901
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 11: Year, Yeah, we had we had a lot of different

1902
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 11: guys have to step up for us, you know. I

1903
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 11: think coach Callahan, Coach Peters, John DaCosta all did a

1904
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 11: great job of getting guys ready to play. You know,

1905
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 11: we thought we had a strong starting fire that was

1906
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 11: coming back, and then obviously from day one injuries, you know,

1907
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 11: hurt us. I think Dewan stepped up and showed that

1908
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,759
Speaker 11: he can be a starting tackle in this league as well.

1909
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 11: And then Dunny like always came in ready when he

1910
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 11: needed to Nick Harris and then obviously he kept moving

1911
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 11: down to James and and g and and all these

1912
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 11: guys had to step in and make plays for us.

1913
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 11: But to do that and to still win eleven games

1914
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 11: and help protect you know, all four or five quarterbacks

1915
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 11: that we had this year, I think it's a testament

1916
01:28:58,120 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 11: to the guys they put in the work in practice

1917
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 11: and train in camp to uh to you know, be

1918
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 11: ready to go when they have a chance.

1919
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 3: What do you feel like the outlook is with DeShawn

1920
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 3: and your starting quarterback coming back to year.

1921
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 11: I think it's good, you know, it's it's he was

1922
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 11: another one that every time it felt like we were

1923
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 11: taking a step, he got banged up or hurt. You know,

1924
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 11: we'd beat Baltimore, Baltimore at Baltimore with DeShawn, they have

1925
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 11: a chance. You know, they're still playing. They're playing next

1926
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 11: week in the division game. Uh, you know, the Titans game,

1927
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 11: the Cardinals game. Like, I'm pretty sure he was four

1928
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 11: and one, you know, as a starter this year with

1929
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 11: our defense, if they played at the level we know

1930
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 11: and expect them to play too. Like, I feel very

1931
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 11: confident with Deshaun coming back and being our course.

1932
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 2: We talked to Eller about the camaraderie and the the

1933
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 2: morale that this team has been able to in case.

1934
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 9: I know it's probably a little early to say, but

1935
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,759
Speaker 9: how do you see those bonds you guys built throughout

1936
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 9: this year translating into the off season as you guys try.

1937
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 4: To bounce back this one.

1938
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's uh, it's been cool.

1939
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 11: I mean when you get be together, Like I just

1940
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 11: like at David And I know everybody's talking about David,

1941
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 11: but like when he first came in, he was like

1942
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 11: a twenty year old kid from Miami and you're like, oh, man,

1943
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 11: does this guy want to be here and stuff. And

1944
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 11: now he's been here probably what six or seven years now,

1945
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 11: you know, and it's like grown into like one of

1946
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 11: my favorite guys to be around, you know what I mean. So,

1947
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 11: like you just build these bonds, and I think winning

1948
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 11: helps everything. You know, you talk about a culture and stuff,

1949
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 11: and it's like the winning obviously helps that stuff. But

1950
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 11: you know, there's gonna be guys that are here that

1951
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 11: are that are working, They're pushing each other and and

1952
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 11: you know, pretty much anywhere you go in the country,

1953
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 11: you have someone that, uh, that you played with, that

1954
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 11: that's gonna let you stay at their house or go

1955
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 11: get a go get a meal with Joe.

1956
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 9: You've talked about You mentioned earlier that you think this

1957
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 9: could be the four. Is this the most optimistic you

1958
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:42,839
Speaker 9: felt coming out of the season.

1959
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1960
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,679
Speaker 11: You know, in twenty twenty when we made the playoffs,

1961
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 11: I was it was the first time I had made

1962
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 11: the playoffs, so I wasn't quite sure, but I was

1963
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 11: confident that we could get back. And then obviously I

1964
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 11: kind of fell apart a little bit there. But I

1965
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 11: think we have the right the right guys that here,

1966
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 11: the right culture right now. The camaraderie was of the

1967
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 11: room is good. So I am confident in this group

1968
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,959
Speaker 11: and their ability to to give back.

1969
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Speaker 10: To the level we want to you next year.

1970
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Speaker 2: All right, there you go. Joel Buttonio from clean Out

1971
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Speaker 2: Day on Sunday. Oh baby, there you go. The next

1972
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 2: level is coming up next. We are back tomorrow. Enjoy

1973
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 2: your first friends, be sure.

1974
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Speaker 5: React accordingly on all of those fronts.

1975
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Speaker 2: Well, thanks for listening Stars Twinkle in the Sky Browns Daily.

1976
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Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of

1977
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