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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone.

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Speaker 2: It is the local Tony Dealers KSR postgame show. I'm

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Speaker 2: Matt Jones here actually in the lobby where I was

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Speaker 2: for the pregame show at the Marriott in Pittsburgh, where

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Speaker 2: unfortunately this is the Oakland team hotel. There's nowhere else

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Speaker 2: you hear noise in the background, that's unfortunately going to

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Speaker 2: be them celebrating as they certainly should do after beating

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Speaker 2: Kentucky eighty to seventy six. I just got here after

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Speaker 2: I wanted to hear the John cal Perry press conference

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Speaker 2: and the comments to reporters, and I just got back

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Speaker 2: walk a lot about well, what are you going to say?

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Speaker 2: Because there is no doubt this is not only an

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Speaker 2: inflection point, it probably is the inflection point for Kentucky

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Speaker 2: basketball and the cal Perry era. For the second time

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Speaker 2: in three years, Kentucky has lost to a high digit seed.

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Speaker 2: Since night, since the tournament went to sixty four teams,

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Speaker 2: Kentucky has only lost in the first round four times,

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Speaker 2: and they two of them are in.

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Speaker 1: The last three years.

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Speaker 2: Three two seasons ago. In my opinion. It was the

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Speaker 2: worst NCAA tournament lost in UK history, and this is

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Speaker 2: probably the second worst, and it's happened in three years.

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Speaker 2: Three years ago probably the worst UK season in history.

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Speaker 2: So a pretty terrible run over the last four years.

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Speaker 2: And as I was walking here, I was trying to

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Speaker 2: there are certain times that you know, you you hit

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Speaker 2: to say it how it is. And this is where

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Speaker 2: I think we are right now. It is all season long.

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Speaker 2: We said this last summer, I thought this was going

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Speaker 2: to be the most important season in the Calperi era

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Speaker 2: and you got to go back to COVID to see.

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Speaker 1: Why that is.

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Speaker 2: Since then, it's been a different col I mean, we

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Speaker 2: just have to accept it. There's no sugarcoating. It's been different.

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Speaker 2: And the list of things that have happened all of

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Speaker 2: you know, but at the end of the day, none

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Speaker 2: of it really matters if you win. If you win,

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Speaker 2: all the other stuff is secondary. Your relationship with the

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Speaker 2: your relationship, even with the fans, all of it really

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter if you win. If you win, everything will

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Speaker 2: be forgiven because you're winning. And the reality is the

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Speaker 2: simplest way to put where Kentucky basketball is right now

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Speaker 2: is we aren't winning and we aren't winning enough, cal

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Speaker 2: Perry said in his interview on CBS, He said it

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Speaker 2: in his interview on the radio, and he said it

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Speaker 2: in the interview to the press conference. He said, I

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Speaker 2: hate that this team will be defined by this game.

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Speaker 2: I hate that because they're better than that. Well, on

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Speaker 2: some level I agree with him because I really like

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Speaker 2: this team. But at the end of the day, the

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Speaker 2: point of UK basketball and the point of playing games

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Speaker 2: is to win.

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Speaker 1: That's the point.

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Speaker 2: The point is to get victories, the point is to

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Speaker 2: is now. There are secondary things that are also awesome,

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Speaker 2: I think when you do that it leads to more winning.

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, winning has to

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Speaker 2: be the primary thing. Winning has to be the centerpiece

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Speaker 2: of why you do it. You play to quote Herm

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Speaker 2: And there is no place in college basketball, maybe no

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Speaker 2: place in college athletics that cares more about a particular

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Speaker 2: sat for years this place is it for everyone? And

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Speaker 2: he's right, it's not. Not everybody can do this job.

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Speaker 2: This is a different thing here. We care the most,

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Speaker 2: thus you're paid the most. Thus there's the most pressure

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Speaker 2: on you. Period. And the reality is that at this moment,

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Speaker 2: the number one goal, which is winning. I talked about

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Speaker 1: For years, especially in the last few years, Cali Perry

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Speaker 1: excused a lot of regular season mistakes by saying, everything's

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Speaker 2: And I always kind of hated that for him because

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Speaker 2: teams ready for March and one of the things. And

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Speaker 2: as you hear this, the players for Oakland are starting

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Speaker 1: But he has said for a while it's about March. March.

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Speaker 2: Well, the reality is we are failing in March. And

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Speaker 2: he said this last year, and he said this year.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that the season is defined by March. Well,

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Speaker 2: you're the one that's set it up like that. It

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Speaker 2: has to be defined by something. We haven't We've won

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Speaker 2: define it with something, and right now we're defining it

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Speaker 2: because I have a lot of affinity Contrary to what

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Speaker 2: has corresponded with my career. He has brought Kentucky, great wins,

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Speaker 1: But it's not like that now. It's not like that now.

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Speaker 2: Now we have a fan base that tens, maybe hundreds

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Speaker 1: It just can't go on like this. The situation is untenable.

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Speaker 2: It's a relationship which has been great for a lot

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Speaker 2: Cal Perry's now in a situation that anything he says

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Speaker 2: And this year he had a team that this fan

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Speaker 2: I don't think it can continue like this. How do

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Speaker 2: and it hasn't been long enough. And I think, if

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Speaker 2: been the least successful four year history in what matters,

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Speaker 2: that's the case, how do you keep going? How do

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Speaker 2: you keep doing it? I hate it. Cal's a great man.

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Speaker 2: Cal's a great coach, and I believe that, and Col's

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Speaker 2: produced a ton of amazing memories for this fan base.

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Speaker 1: But good things end.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know how it happens. There's thirty three

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Speaker 2: I'll root for him. I want Kentucky to win every game,

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Speaker 2: and I'll be the biggest advocate for Kentucky basketball I can.

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Speaker 2: But if I'm being honest, and I think if a

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Speaker 2: for two groups that have gone really well together, the

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Speaker 2: to go in different directions. How that happens, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: This is not Kentucky basketball, and unfortunately we've gotten away

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna listen, you guys get through and say what

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Speaker 1: Maybe you can't rely on freshman anymore.

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Speaker 2: And if that's the case, I'm not sure if John

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Speaker 2: that's just not Kentucky basketball. Eight five, nine eighty seven.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break, We'll take your calls. This will

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Speaker 2: be not a fun show, but probably a necessary one

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Speaker 2: here on the Local Toy Dealers KSR Postgame Show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: It is the Local Toy Dealers KSR Postgame Show. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure I could have picked a much worse environment

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Speaker 2: for this, because literally there are Oakland fans absolutely everywhere.

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Speaker 3: It's surreal hearing the cheering in the background.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what can you do?

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Speaker 4: I go.

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Speaker 2: There's the problem is there's no there are no places

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Speaker 2: and it happens to be the Oakland team hotel. So

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Speaker 2: unless I wanted to sit in the street where it's

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Speaker 2: like thirty seven degrees, this is where we have to

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Speaker 2: This is where we have.

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Speaker 1: To do it.

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Speaker 2: I do want to talk about a couple of things

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Speaker 2: Cal said. You know, Cal was said, and he's right

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Speaker 1: And why that is.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter the specifics. So Cal says, you know,

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Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter. You didn't win, and you'd lost

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Speaker 1: Every program can have one of those.

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Speaker 2: Kentucky had never had one until Saint Peter's, but everybody

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Speaker 2: that can't continue. One person on the text machine rights, Matt,

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Speaker 1: Like, How's it gonna be better? So that's why I

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Speaker 5: Mason, go ahead, Mason, Hey, first off, God bless all

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Speaker 6: That was pretty cool.

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Speaker 5: First and foremost, though, Dad going in, I'm tired of

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Speaker 2: They had eight rebounds in the first six they had

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Speaker 2: He's a national hero right now. I mean, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: Ten ten.

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Speaker 2: Now, a couple of we're contested, but some of them

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Speaker 2: And then we did it against exactly what Doug Edart did,

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Speaker 1: Who's next, Steve, Steve, what's up? Steve? Hey man, Hey guys,

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 4: I'm just really just reliving my you know, the nineties

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Speaker 1: Fans just not well. It steaks. And I appreciate, I

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Speaker 2: And I've sat and watched two crowds full of Kentucky

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Speaker 1: In Nashville. It was awful. It was awful, and it

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Speaker 2: We had the most people in the arena, you know,

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Speaker 2: right in front of Oakland's fans. And here's what was

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Speaker 2: interesting to me. The Oakland fans talk trash to our

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Speaker 2: to begin with so like, it's not surprising to me

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Speaker 1: But the dudes that usually talk on our team were silent.

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Speaker 2: Whereas the if you just watched that game and you

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Speaker 2: you would have thought Oakland was Kentucky. Now we have

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Speaker 2: course have better athletes, but you would have thought Oakland

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Speaker 2: tight again, and on some point that's on the coach, Like,

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Speaker 2: can't play, that's on you, man, that's on you, It's

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Speaker 2: not on them. I heard his interview with what I

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Speaker 2: But he said the players didn't play like they've played. Well,

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Speaker 2: you don't coach the way you coached when you started.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't like to hear that. But the things he

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Speaker 1: It's not the same. It just isn't. Who's next, Jacob, Jacob,

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Speaker 8: First time? Long time?

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Speaker 6: Matt just completely frustrated. I kind of just knew it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 6: I mean, what can you say.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's happening. That was really the moment

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we got when we get down by seven, you know,

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Speaker 6: I know we could score and make a good comeback,

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Speaker 6: I said, I just don't think we can stop score,

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Speaker 9: And we never could.

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Speaker 1: We couldn't stop them.

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Speaker 2: I mean that was what we missed shots and I

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Speaker 2: it came down. I mean, lo, it was a one

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Speaker 1: Three like we're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they the reality is, if we had won,

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Speaker 2: don't you agree we wouldn't have deserved it.

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Speaker 1: They led the whole game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I completely agree we would have stolen it.

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Speaker 2: They we would have stolen it and you can't. And

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Speaker 2: then I appreciate the call. This isn't any on it.

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Speaker 2: This isn't on officials, This isn't on any We got

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Speaker 2: the better end of the calls. To be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: They missed free throws. How many free throws did they miss?

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Speaker 1: Billy? They missed the bunch.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they missed I don't know how many, but

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Speaker 2: of would have stolen.

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Speaker 1: If we won, but of course we didn't. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: Who's next?

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Speaker 3: Jack Gibbs threw his headset when Edwards missed that dunk.

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Speaker 2: I think, I mean, how can you look? He's missed

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Speaker 2: It's clearly in his head. He missed the layup early

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Speaker 2: read a comment I got that I want to respond to.

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Speaker 2: A guy named Brad wrote me and says the worst

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Speaker 2: in Kentucky calling for Cow's head. Cow didn't miss a

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Speaker 2: out in the world. At the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: The coach is always responsible.

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Speaker 2: And if you think about it, if we all look

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Speaker 2: except him. Oh it's Devin ask You. Oh it's Severe Wheeler.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's Kellyn Grady. Oh it's x Oh it's why.

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Speaker 2: Oh our seven footers aren't very good. Oh Oscar can't

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Speaker 2: end of the day, the only common denominator is the coach. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Devon ask You wasn't the perfect point guard for Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough income, Severe Wheeler, Okay, that didn't work. We

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Speaker 2: We wouldn't put ty Ty Washington and Cason Wallace at

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Speaker 1: Why I don't know. We don't start dealing to him

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Speaker 2: There's one common denominator, and that has to be the responsibility. Brad,

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Speaker 2: how many more years of losing to Saint Peter's and

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Speaker 2: John wall he's in charge.

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Speaker 1: He brought him here. But then when we fail, he

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Speaker 1: the credit. Who's next?

438
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Speaker 3: Rex?

439
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Speaker 1: Rex? What's up? Rex?

440
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Speaker 10: How's it go on?

441
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Speaker 8: Mat?

442
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Speaker 10: I just wanted to first off say that I have

443
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 10: been obviously with Kyle Perry from the from the time

444
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Speaker 10: that he addressed us at bidlu Mannus many years ago,

445
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 10: through the Championships, the elite as the great teams, the curses,

446
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 10: whatever it may be, we all know, let's face it,

447
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 10: I've been a support with him throughout this entire season,

448
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 10: but after this game, we all have to conclude that

449
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 10: the dynamic of the entire program has changed. How can

450
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 10: a Division two athlete, as you said, come on, come

451
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 10: into an NCAA tournament game and beat our historic franchise

452
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 10: are one of the I mean, Charles Barkley said it

453
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 10: best before the game. He said that we have we all,

454
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Speaker 10: if not the most historic basketball program in the country,

455
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 10: and that Caliperi, I mean, he has not made any

456
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 10: sort of change this dynamic. His personality has way, he

457
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 10: addressed everybody, and everything in between has gone downhill ever

458
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Speaker 10: since you name it Wisconsin twenty fifteen, whatever it may be,

459
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 10: but we all know it's it's changed. And if you can,

460
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Speaker 10: if anybody can sit here and say that he has

461
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Speaker 10: a right to stay here, especially after this lass and

462
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Speaker 10: a guy who came in and made ten three point

463
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Speaker 10: shots against us and beats us out of the tournament

464
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Speaker 10: after a great season with great players that we all love. Man,

465
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Speaker 10: I don't know how you can support the motives are

466
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 10: anything right now? I hope that all fits well the BB.

467
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Speaker 11: Well.

468
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Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. I mean, I can't say I

469
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: disagree with you. Bottom line all year he looked at

470
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,479
Speaker 2: us and said, we're built for March. He deflected every

471
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 2: criticism in every game with we're built for March. And

472
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Speaker 2: I have done my best this year to try to

473
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Speaker 2: not get into the tit for tat stuff with cal

474
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Speaker 2: when it comes to the comments and the shots he

475
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: takes at fans and media, et cetera. But what he

476
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 2: said about every mistake or every bad situation not fouling

477
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: up three or go through the game. So we're built

478
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Speaker 2: for March, Well you're ozing to in the March that matters.

479
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: There's no excuse, there's no excuse.

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Speaker 1: It's just not And I I don't know, I don't know.

481
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how you can continue down

482
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: this path. Who's next?

483
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 3: Jason?

484
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: Jason? Go ahead?

485
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Speaker 11: Jason, Hey, Matt, first time, long time, maybe last time?

486
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Speaker 1: What? Well? Yes, go ahead?

487
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Speaker 11: Uh man, I most people hit all the points I

488
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 11: wanted to say, but I mean it just you just

489
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 11: get there's only so many times you can get a

490
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Speaker 11: punch to the face and not be like something's got

491
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Speaker 11: to change.

492
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Speaker 2: You know.

493
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Speaker 11: He's the one that puts the team together, he's the

494
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Speaker 11: one that's supposed to get him prepared and they just

495
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 11: come out, they play timid, and this will keep on

496
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Speaker 11: happening as long as you get freshmen that come in

497
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Speaker 11: and their first big game is the NCAA Tournament.

498
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's a big that's a bigger conversation right, Like,

499
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: that's a bigger conversation about how do you you know,

500
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Speaker 2: do you continue you doing it with.

501
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Speaker 1: Freshmen? Right? Like, that's a bigger conversation. I don't know.

502
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Speaker 2: Jay Wright had a really interesting comment tonight about that,

503
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Speaker 2: basically like, we can't, we can't continue. You can't continue

504
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: to do it with freshmen because guys are going to

505
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Speaker 2: stay in college longer. I've always been in a thought

506
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Speaker 2: that you could, But nights like tonight, I'll be honest

507
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: with you, do shake my confidence in it. Because it

508
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 2: was our freshmen who weren't ready. Our fifthier seniors were ready,

509
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Speaker 2: it was our freshmen.

510
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Speaker 11: Well, I mean, if I heard it right, that dude

511
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Speaker 11: that hit the ten threes is like twenty four exactly.

512
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Speaker 2: But he's twenty four, but he's still playing like if

513
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: he as long as he's allowed to play, which I

514
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Speaker 2: don't see why.

515
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Speaker 1: He shouldn't, Like, what are you gonna do?

516
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Speaker 2: You have to be able to match up with it,

517
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: and that dude played like an adult, and our guys

518
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: were scared, like they were timid, they.

519
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: Just were.

520
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Speaker 11: Yeah. Cal always said he take talent over experience.

521
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Speaker 1: But when you're and.

522
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Speaker 11: That was one like two, you were out of college.

523
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Speaker 1: But yeah, but I wonder if that's true anymore. And

524
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Speaker 1: I appreciate the call.

525
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Speaker 2: I wonder if you can still do that when guys

526
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: are now going to stay longer. I mean, look at

527
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: the best players in college.

528
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: Basketball this year. Who are they?

529
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Speaker 2: Zach Edi, Dal't connect, Antonio Reeves, you know, the kid

530
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: at Houston. They're all seniors, they're all old. Maybe that's

531
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Speaker 2: what you have to do now again, and you got

532
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: to adjust like it's It's very telling to me that

533
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: Antonio Reeves and Trede Mitchell were our two dudes.

534
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Speaker 1: Very telling. Who's next, Nathan, Nathan, go ahead, Nathan.

535
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Speaker 12: Hey, Matt So yeah, I echo a lot of the

536
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 12: points to other people have been making. I just saw

537
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Speaker 12: a tweet from Sean Vinzel that when the three R's

538
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Speaker 12: were in today and twenty nine possessions, we outscored them,

539
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 12: and then without all three of them and the forty possessions,

540
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Speaker 12: we ended up losing in the aggregate, and I just

541
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 12: we have a situation where the coach in the fan

542
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 12: base is so toxic that it's so it's plausible to

543
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 12: me that he actively doesn't adapt to the situation to.

544
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Speaker 11: Leading into the three RS and any lineup team.

545
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Speaker 12: I think that he can feels the heat of like

546
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 12: that's what the fans or the media are talking about.

547
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Speaker 1: And I just no, I think he wants to win.

548
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: I definitely think cal Perry wants to win, but he

549
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: wants to win his way, right Like that's the most

550
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: important thing. He wants to win his way doing what

551
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: he wants, no matter what anyone else says. I'm looking

552
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: at the stat you're saying right now. So with Reid,

553
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: Robin Reeves in and let me know this is with

554
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: Reid and rob not really playing that grade, they scored

555
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: thirty seven points in twenty nine possessions without those three

556
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: in together, So every other possession they scored thirty nine

557
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: in forty possessions, they had a they were they beat

558
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: Oakland when they were in, they were down seven when

559
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: they were out. There's the game, right Like, isn't that

560
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: the whole year right there?

561
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Speaker 12: And it's just like I think, you know, most successful

562
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 12: people have giant egos and are super stubborn, but I

563
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 12: think his at such a level right now and sort

564
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 12: of against the fan base that he convinces himself that

565
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 12: leaning into like the three RS or the Benni lineups,

566
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 12: and like it's he convinces himself that, like he doesn't

567
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 12: want to adjust to those and then so now we

568
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 12: have a situation where he's actively kind of going against

569
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 12: the fan base, and then I think he's just gonna

570
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 12: stick around another few years, you know, based on that

571
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 12: ego and that stubbornness, And it's just I don't want

572
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 12: to see his legacy like, like like you mentioned earlier,

573
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 12: tarnished completely by how this is going to end up,

574
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 12: because he did amazing things here, but it's just it's

575
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 12: just sad all around. I have no excitement or hype

576
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,959
Speaker 12: for next year, which is I think the first offseason

577
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 12: I can think of ever feeling that way in his area.

578
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: I kind of agree with you on that. That's that's

579
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: that is to me. The thing that is the most suppressing,

580
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, is it's.

581
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: Hard to fit.

582
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: It's hard to see where the excitement comes from. Uh,

583
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: for next year, Who's next?

584
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: Brent is next?

585
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: Eight five, nine eighty seven. Brent, go ahead, Hey.

586
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Speaker 13: Guys, good to talk to you again. A couple of comments, Uh,

587
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 13: we just looked completely surprised by the zone. I'm not

588
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 13: sure what we were doing. We looked surprised by the

589
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 13: dude who only shoots threes. Drew called it on Your

590
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 13: Collins Show earlier this week. We look terrified and read

591
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 13: passed the ball as soon as he touched it. And

592
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 13: what breaks my heart is, I feel like we're losing

593
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 13: the younger generations.

594
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: You think that's right, though, I mean, I get the

595
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: sense people are still as into it as ever.

596
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: I mean I I mean.

597
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 11: I've got I've got two.

598
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 6: I've got two.

599
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 13: High school boys and they are just like demoralized in March.

600
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 13: I came from the Mashburn generation, the Antoine Walker generation,

601
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 13: the generation that suffered through Billy Gillespie and experience the

602
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 13: Kentucky effect, the gold standard and now built for March.

603
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 13: And now my sons are saying, man, I don't know

604
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 13: if I can do this anymore. And I, ultimately, Matt

605
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 13: want to blame Skyler Davis for playing a wedding during

606
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 13: a possible second round matchup, and I think he put

607
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 13: a curse on the Kentucky podcast. So I want to

608
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 13: hang up and I'll listen.

609
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: All right, I appreciate that call. Eight nine twenty two

610
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Speaker 2: eighty seven. Let's take a break. When we come back,

611
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: we will, you know, we'll take more of it. The

612
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: bottom line, I think all year, if he just played

613
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: the best players, maybe we're not sitting here with the loss.

614
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: Play the best players.

615
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: You know what they never did once tonight was go

616
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: small on a team that had no no size. Our

617
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: seven footers really were not able to do a lot.

618
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: Why didn't we ever go small?

619
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Speaker 1: The whole game got any worse. We'll take a break.

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Speaker 1: Be right back. It's the Local Toy Dealers KSR post

621
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Speaker 1: game Show.

622
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, and it's the Local Toy Dealers KSR post

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Speaker 2: game Show. You've heard enough from me. Let's get back

624
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: the phones. Eight five nine, eight twenty two eighty seven.

625
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Speaker 1: Who's up next, Bobby? Bobby? Go ahead, Bobby?

626
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Speaker 11: First time?

627
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: Long time? Who are what's up?

628
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Speaker 11: I just want to say BTI sucks. But you know

629
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 11: what's the most sad thing is I woke up on

630
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 11: Thursday of the NCAA tournament half expected us to lose.

631
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Speaker 11: And you know, of course we did.

632
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Speaker 2: You know, Drew, We're gonna lose all day. It was

633
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: crazy Drew all day. Drew has probably looked at me.

634
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: He looked at me like five times before the game

635
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: and was like, we're not gonna lose today, are we?

636
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: And I kept thinking, come on, man, like what? But

637
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 2: he's never liked that either, and he was like that today.

638
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I mean I didn't expect it to happen,

639
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 11: but I did. And of course it's just Sam, you know,

640
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 11: it's not who we are. It's not what we should be.

641
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 11: Hashtag Billy was better higher Billy G.

642
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't think Billy was better, but I appreciate the call.

643
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: I yeah, remember when we I mean, we used to

644
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 2: take these games for granted, right, Like I mean, you

645
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: just assume, well, the first round game will be fun.

646
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: I mean, Tennessee beat Saint Peter's by like thirty today.

647
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: You know, let's not I mean, let's just quickly do

648
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: a gander around college basketball. Let's go look at the

649
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: top seats. Kansas, who's without their leading scorer, is up

650
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: thirteen on Sanford. Creighton three seed beats Akron by seventeen

651
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: Arizona beats Long Beach State by twenty, North Carolina beats

652
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: Wagner by twenty eight, Illinois beats Morehead by sixteen, Iowa

653
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 2: State beat South Dakota State by seventeen, beats McNee State

654
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Speaker 2: by twenty one, and Tennessee beats Saint Peter's by thirty six.

655
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: That was the other top seeds. Not only were the

656
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: only one that lost, we're the only one where the

657
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: game is close, We're the only one that the game

658
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: is even close, and we lost. I don't know what

659
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: it'll be like tomorrow, but that's pretty disappointing. Who's next, Kevin, Kevin,

660
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: go ahead, Kevin.

661
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 14: Yeah, Matt So the first time in my life, Kentucky

662
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 14: basketball is all I've ever known. For the first time

663
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 14: in my life, tonight, I did not watch an nca

664
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 14: tournament game because I did not want to deal with

665
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 14: what might happen.

666
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: And I think he.

667
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 14: Should be given the opportunity to step down, and if

668
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 14: he doesn't, he should be let go thirty million whatever.

669
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 14: But he has a staff that is not very good.

670
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 14: John Welch was a fantastic higher but what else do

671
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 14: the people do on that staff besides recruit and I

672
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 14: have no idea what Bruiser Flynn does. And I'm sure

673
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 14: you know the actual story with John Robick, who was

674
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 14: loyal to Cal for how long. I know you probably

675
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 14: know the real story of what happened. But it's time

676
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 14: for a change, man, and I can't. I can't do

677
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 14: this anymore with with Kentucky basketball. I mean, my family's

678
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 14: known it, My kids have known. It's it's all we've

679
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 14: ever known. So it's it's just it's time for a change.

680
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate the call, you know. I sort of wonder,

681
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: like all year, if you if I were just look

682
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: at social media, you know, I mean, I mean, the

683
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 2: the fan base was to some extent divided. He doesn't.

684
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't see that as much now. I

685
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 2: think it's kind of universal. It was interesting listening to Cal.

686
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: Part of me wonders if Cal even gets how down

687
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 2: the fan bass is I think he I genuinely, Look,

688
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna claim to know Cal the last three

689
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 2: or four years. I really I really haven't known him

690
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: since really since COVID. I mean, when Dwayne, when Dwayne left,

691
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, if I'm being real, Dwayne was

692
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: my connection to Cal and through Dwayne, I got to

693
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 2: know Cal pretty well, and so from twenty ten, Dwayne

694
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: peve being Dwayne. From twenty ten to twenty nineteen, I

695
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: talked to Cal all the time, and I think I

696
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: knew him pretty well. Then Dwayne left that twenty nineteen

697
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: twenty twenty year, I just didn't communicate with him much,

698
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: but the relationship was fine. I justn't never talked to

699
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: him because Dayne wasn't here. And then when I was

700
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: critical during that COVID year, I mean he I was

701
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: told by people who know him that he was upset.

702
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: He was especially upset I think the day after we

703
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: lost in the SEC Tournament to Mississippi State, when we

704
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: said that we thought he needed to make major changes.

705
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: And then we really haven't had a relationship since then.

706
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: What I think was.

707
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: Always good for Cal during those early years was he

708
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: had people who could push back on him. Everybody needs

709
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: to have somebody to say, hey, man, maybe don't do

710
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: that right. Like Drew's that guy for me when it

711
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: comes to KSR stuff. Drew can say things to me

712
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: that nobody else can because I've known him for so long,

713
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: So I'll listen to him. I mean, I'll listen to

714
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: Ryan too, but Drew will do it. Drew will say, Man,

715
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: don't do that. And I know that if Drew says that,

716
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: I should listen to it, because he doesn't say it

717
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 2: very often.

718
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: Well, Cal had those guys and they're all gone now

719
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: nobody pushes back on him.

720
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: So I've had some conversations in recent months with folks

721
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: who are close to him who were like, Matt, we

722
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: really need to rebuild this relationship, and I always say

723
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: I'd love to, right. But what I've learned in talking

724
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: to them, they understand the situation, but Cal doesn't. He

725
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: does not understand how the fans feel. I think he

726
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: genuinely believes that it's like my fault or it's other people.

727
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: No, I'm not kidding you. I think he genuinely believes

728
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: that the media is out to get him. He says

729
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: it all the time.

730
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: He says all the time, like there's people saying out

731
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: there to get people to critics. I don't think he

732
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: realizes that a lot of the fans are much angrier

733
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: than I am. I don't think he. I don't think

734
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: he gets that. And I think it's because over the

735
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: years he's had these people who were very connected to

736
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: the fans who he would listen to, Dwayne Robic, Eric Lindsay, TJ. Bisner,

737
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: they're all gone now. And I think some of these

738
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: other guys they love him so much, like they won't

739
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: say anything, and so I don't think he realizes what

740
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: this fan base feels.

741
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: And I felt like that when I heard him talk tonight.

742
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I know he knows we're disappointed, but he's

743
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: like talking about how you know, we still help change

744
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: family's lives, and like, that's great, but that's not what

745
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 2: we want to hear tonight, Billy, You know what I mean.

746
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 15: We lost to Oakland, but the way that he puffs

747
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 15: his chest out, and you know, Tea after a win,

748
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,479
Speaker 15: you don't think he listens to listen.

749
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: I hate that.

750
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: I have literally tried not to talk about, but every

751
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 2: time we win, he puffs his chest out like see

752
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: see see I hate that. But you know what I've

753
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: been like, Look, man, it's all about March. You know,

754
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: when he would puff his chest out of after wins,

755
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: I think to myself, it's all about March. The only

756
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: thing that's gonna matters March anyway. Well, March has now happened.

757
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: Who's next, Fred, Fred, go ahead, Fred?

758
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: Now he hung up? Okay, go to Brandon.

759
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: All right, Brandon, go ahead, Brandon.

760
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 8: Hey Mann, first time, long time?

761
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: Who what what's up?

762
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 11: I'll try to keep it short and sweet the best

763
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 11: I can. I just have a few things to say

764
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 11: and then I'll hang it up. I'm pretty pretty down,

765
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 11: like the most of us, but you know, I want

766
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 11: to appreciate what Klen has done for us. I think

767
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 11: we all are very appre should have. But Kentucky Basketball,

768
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 11: we don't live off of what you did for us.

769
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 11: You know in twenty twelve and fifteen, this has gotten tired.

770
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 11: Matt and I haven't never called for this to happen.

771
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 11: But John Calaperry, your time is up at Kentucky.

772
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, appreciate the call. Who's next, Michael, Michael? Go ahead, Michael?

773
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: Hey, what's up? Matt? Hell you Den, Bud?

774
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 16: Thanks for having me on. Actually got our buddy brought

775
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 16: next to me. We're I'm gonna be flat out honest, man.

776
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 16: We were angry. There's people I know, everybody's.

777
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: Getting on here.

778
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 16: They're you know, upset, We're we're flat out just angry.

779
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 16: How watching this game? We're excited, We're pumped up for

780
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 16: this team. This team we love, the fans, love the players.

781
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean with Read out there dealing hand and Reeves,

782
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: i mean Reeves.

783
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 8: Reeves.

784
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Reeves came back this year. You know they wanted

785
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: him back.

786
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 16: And to sit and watch Mitchell and Reeves really go

787
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 16: off in this game, I was becoming frustrated because I'm

788
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 16: looking at the bench and I'm like, the bench has

789
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 16: got to get into this too. You've got to root

790
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 16: for these players out there. They're tents just like you said.

791
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 16: And then once that final tick hits, I'm just sitting

792
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 16: here in awe. I mean we're sitting here. I mean,

793
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 16: Brock's looking at me. I'm looking at him. He's he's

794
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 16: sick this stomach. I'm sick to my stomach. We can't

795
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 16: believe that everything that coach cal has set and said

796
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 16: over and over with the march, the march, the march,

797
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 16: blah blah blah, and then you sit and watch the

798
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 16: team that you're like, their final four potential, it's done,

799
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 16: and then we're both sitting here like.

800
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: He's got to go.

801
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 16: It's the first thing that comes in when you know,

802
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 16: we had a friend that sat and texts me he

803
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 16: said thirteenth and win percentage.

804
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: In the past five.

805
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 17: Years of SEC tournament, only fourteen teams in the SEC

806
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 17: one win in the SEC tournament in five years, and

807
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 17: the same with the NCAA tournament.

808
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 16: Can't win a Champion Classic game with seven?

809
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean put it like this, last four

810
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 2: NCAA tournaments. Let's put it like this, last four NCAA tournaments.

811
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: Guess who has the same number of wins in the

812
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: NCAA Tournament as Kentucky In the last four NCAA tournaments,

813
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 2: Oakland and Saint Peter's, They've won exactly as many games

814
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: as we have, and they've beaten higher seeded teams and

815
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: we beat to do it.

816
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, look ridiculous. We have to stop

817
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: acting like this stuff is normal.

818
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: I just read you all the other one, two, three,

819
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: and four seeds that played today, and every single one

820
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 2: of them won by at least fifteen and we lost,

821
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: right right, And so people talk about parody and and

822
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: parody is good. And this is not to be disrespectful

823
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: to that dude, because I give that guy credit. Goalkey,

824
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: he had the game of his life and he will

825
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 2: be a hero and he deserves it.

826
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: And it's an amazing story.

827
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: I mean, the kid would played in a Division three

828
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 2: school and found his way, But we let.

829
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: A dude from a Division three school beat us. Yeah,

830
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: and me, it's crazy, that's crazy.

831
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 16: We we set and we sat and watched this uh

832
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 16: at the CBS Sports when Charles Barkley was just talking,

833
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 16: he said, you've got all Americans on your team. You're

834
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 16: talking about Kansas, You and C Duke Kentucky. We are

835
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 16: top teams. There is no reason in the world we

836
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 16: should go in and let a Horizon team show us

837
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 16: up like it. And it's no point. There's no point

838
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 16: in digging at these players. They played good Oakland did,

839
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 16: but when.

840
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: You haven't, I don't blame no.

841
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, I don't blame the players, and

842
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 2: let me and I appreciate that. I don't blame the players.

843
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 2: And here's why I don't blame the players, because they

844
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: haven't been the same players all four years we've been

845
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: We've been blaming players for four years. I now actually

846
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: feel kind of sorry for some of these dudes that

847
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 2: were here the last few years.

848
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: I sit there and.

849
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: Think about like BJ Boston, who everybody was so down on. Well,

850
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: Bj Boston's in the NBA. BJ Boston's playing minutes for

851
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 2: the Clippers. So why wasn't he good here?

852
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: I don't know.

853
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: Maybe it wasn't BJ Boston, right, Kellen Grady that you know,

854
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: Davey A.

855
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: Mintz.

856
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: Those guys played good at other schools. They were good

857
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: for a while here. I mean, Oscar is on the

858
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 2: All Star team in the G League right now. You know,

859
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: Cason Wallace plays playoff minutes for the number one seed

860
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: in the in the in the West, in the NBA.

861
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: Ty tyle score forty a game in a G League game, Like, we're.

862
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 2: Blaming all these other dudes, but there's one common denominator.

863
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: So Reid didn't play well.

864
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 2: But if this is ree Jepper's last game at Kentucky,

865
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna feel bad about him.

866
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: He was great when he was here. Same with Rob Dillingham.

867
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: Rob Dillingham was great when I'm certainly not gonna be

868
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: mad at Antonio Reeves, who improved as much as any

869
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 2: player I've ever seen.

870
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: Here, am Bradshaw's number one overall player in America. Why

871
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: didn't play well here? Well?

872
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not him totally right, I mean, there's other

873
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: guys this has happened to at some point, there's only

874
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: one common denominator. We've had four seasons of this. No

875
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: players played all four of them. So that's why I

876
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: don't I'm not putting it on the players. I think

877
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: there's a couple of guys that me and too Clute

878
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: had probably put too much on them.

879
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: You know, it might not be that. Who's next?

880
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: Felt bad for DJ Wagner too man.

881
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: He Dj Wagner Man, I feel bad for him.

882
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: He was he was nervous.

883
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a reason these guys, there's a reason

884
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 2: these guys are coming in these games nervous, and they

885
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 2: and and you know what that is.

886
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm not in the locker room, so I don't know,

887
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: but they are.

888
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 15: It's a trickle down effect. I'll tell you right now.

889
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 15: It's Chase, Chase.

890
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: Chase, go ahead, Chase.

891
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 5: Hey Man, hey Man.

892
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 18: I just want to appreciate you have me on. I

893
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 18: just wanted to say I've been one of the longtime

894
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 18: CAL supporters and I appreciate all he's done for the program.

895
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 18: But I think tonight might have been the last draw

896
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 18: for me. I've lived in Kentucky my whole life, and

897
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 18: Lexington now for going on eleven years. My love for

898
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 18: UK sports is a huge reason of what's kept me

899
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 18: here in Lexington Action all these years. They just wanted

900
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 18: to be close to the program. But it's just getting

901
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 18: sickening to keep getting humiliated like this. It's one of

902
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 18: the biggest things our state has going for us nationally.

903
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 18: Now we don't even have Kentucky basketball to hang our

904
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 18: hats on on a national landscape. It's just it's not

905
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 18: what it should be, and it's extremely embarrassing to continue

906
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 18: getting put in this position. Our state just doesn't have

907
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 18: a whole lot to hang its hat on nationally, sadly,

908
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 18: but at Kentucky basketball is one of the main things

909
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 18: we have to be proud of. Just tough to be

910
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 18: consistently upset about the results of a bunch of eighteen

911
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 18: nineteen year old and a basketball court, and I just

912
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 18: don't know where we go from here before it really

913
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 18: starts mattering to the people of this state and the

914
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 18: level that you know it matters to all of us,

915
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 18: the level that it all matters to us currently.

916
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you, I appreciate

917
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: the call.

918
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: Let me give you two stats that I just saw

919
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: that are mind blowing versus from Corey Price in the

920
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 2: last one hundred and twenty five games at their university.

921
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: Let me read you the winning percentages. Rick Patino one

922
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: hundred and ten and fifteen eight offer up one hundred

923
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: and four and twenty two, Joe B. Hall ninety two

924
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: and thirty four, Tubby Smith ninety one and thirty five,

925
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: Eddie Sutton eighty seven and thirty nine, John cal Perry

926
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 2: eighty and forty six. Worst winning percentage of any coach

927
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: besides Billy Gillespie and UK history in their last one

928
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five games. Now, let me give you

929
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: one that's gonna blow your mind. Guess how many we've

930
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: just talked about, last five SEC tournaments? How many victories?

931
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: One?

932
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 2: Guess who else has one SEC tournament or excuse me,

933
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 2: one conference tournament win in their last four tournaments, Louisville.

934
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 2: How many NCAA tournament wins do we have in the

935
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 2: last four years?

936
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: One? Guess who also has one win in the NCAA

937
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: tournament in the last four years, Louisville. Louisville.

938
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: Now, granted, their regular seasons have been much worse, but

939
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 2: when it comes to March, which is what it is.

940
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 2: What can you say? Eight, I'm nine twenty two eighty seven.

941
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 2: We'll take a break, We'll come back for the final segment.

942
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: This is the Local Toy Dealers KSR postgame Show.

943
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: Welcome back.

944
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: It is the Local Toy Dealers KSR postgame Show. Right now,

945
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: it's three hours since the game was played. We are Kentucky, Caliperry.

946
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 2: They're the number one, two and three trends in the country.

947
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people nationally saying that Kentucky. Mark Titus,

948
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: who used to you know it was on the ringer,

949
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 2: Now he's on barstool says Kentucky cannot let cal coach

950
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: another game for them and still be considered a serious program.

951
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 2: Now that's a strong statement, but he's not the only

952
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 2: one that. Matt Orlanders said, I don't know if if

953
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: he can coach again. John Rostein said, I don't know

954
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: if he'll can do You know, this is just, uh,

955
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: it's just what it is, you know.

956
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: So tomorrow's gonna be brutal.

957
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: By the way, all those shows, like all those talking

958
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: head shows, it's all gonna be about us.

959
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: I mean everybody.

960
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 2: I hope everybody realizes, like we're the butt of the

961
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: joke tomorrow. Now, when they get to the weekend, they'll

962
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: probably have other stories. But we are the national conversation tomorrow,

963
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 2: and it ain't gonna be positive.

964
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: You know. I think Cal always used to say, we

965
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: don't move the needle, we are the needle.

966
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: Well, the needle's gonna be scratching the record tomorrow because

967
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: it's about us. I mean, that's just how it's gonna be.

968
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 2: What's next? Rinder, Ridder, go ahead, Ridder?

969
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 19: Hey lord, dogg, glad I could talk to you this

970
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 19: lovely Friday morning. At this point, I think the Dallas

971
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 19: Cowboys need to like cut dash Dak Prescott tonight so

972
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 19: we won't.

973
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: Be on every night to head down that way. So

974
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: but yeah, just a couple of things.

975
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 19: Is like one thing, I know, it's about this game,

976
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 19: and even with the postgame show, like there's just like

977
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 19: a sense of apathy, like I love or listen in

978
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 19: think there'd be fireworks, like people will be mad, and

979
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 19: even tonight, like normally a postseason game, I'm pacing around

980
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 19: like I did get off the couch one time. And

981
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 19: I don't know if that's just kind of I was

982
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 19: expecting it or what we're used to, but I don't know.

983
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: You say that.

984
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: It's interesting you say that because and I'll let you.

985
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: I want you to finish that thought.

986
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: But let me. I'll just talk about my own personal self. Okay.

987
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 2: You know, if you've listened the show over the years,

988
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: like I usually can't stay in the arena during games

989
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: like go back. It's been hard for me to stay

990
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: in the arena in a game since the twenty twelve

991
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: Final four against Louisville.

992
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: That's the last time like I.

993
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: Left the arena of that game, and I've gone I've

994
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: left the arena most.

995
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: Postseason games since. Here's what's interesting.

996
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: I sat there the whole time tonight and I never

997
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 2: thought about leaving. And I don't want to call it apathy,

998
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: because I wanted us to win, Believe me. I mean,

999
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: Drew and I were like sitting next to each other,

1000
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: like holding each other back every time reason with you

1001
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: to three, trying to not cheer on press row. But

1002
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 2: it was almost like I kind of expected it, almost

1003
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: like like normally in a game like this, I would

1004
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: have been so nervous I would have left, but for

1005
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: some reason, I sat there. And I don't think it's apathy,

1006
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 2: but I think there was just something like I guess

1007
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 2: I was almost resigned to it before it even happened,

1008
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1009
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 19: No, I agree, That's what I was curious because I said,

1010
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 19: I didn't know you had a shower if you ran

1011
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 19: out of the or what.

1012
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: But no, Joe state.

1013
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: I sat there the whole game, which I haven't done

1014
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: for a tournament game in a long time. Actually, I

1015
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 2: think the last one I did was uh like the

1016
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 2: Tony Brook or something, and many years ago. It's been

1017
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: a while.

1018
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 19: But yeah, my question is and I think I think

1019
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 19: the biggest thing. We could talk about rotations, players, schemes

1020
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 19: or whatever, but like the elephant in the room is

1021
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 19: this buyout. If this buyout was zero dollars, it wouldn't

1022
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 19: be like a mutual leaving.

1023
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 1: Everyone would say he needs to be fired.

1024
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 19: So my thing is is, well, I think next year,

1025
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 19: if we hang on to him, it goes from thirty

1026
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 19: two million to twenty five million.

1027
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: That's still a lot of money. I mean, how often,

1028
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: how long?

1029
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how well that was what I was

1030
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: saying at the beginning. I don't know how a separation

1031
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 2: takes place logistically. I think this is I'll talk more

1032
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: about this tomorrow. But I think this is why we're

1033
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 2: in an untenable place. I think it costs too much

1034
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: money to buy him out. I think he is stubborn

1035
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: and will not want to leave without taking every dollar.

1036
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: And so I don't know what you do. I don't

1037
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 2: think we have the money to buy him out, and

1038
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: I don't think he wants to leave. But I think

1039
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: everybody is gonna be like, this can't go on. So

1040
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what happens. I don't know. I mean,

1041
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: I really don't like people. As I was walking out

1042
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: of the Reda, that's all anybody said, is like what

1043
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 2: I don't know? But I don't but it can't stay

1044
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: like this again. It's one of those things. It's like

1045
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: you're in a relationship, you have three kids, they're all young,

1046
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: and you're like, what do we do we have? We

1047
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: have this, we have a mortgage on the house, we

1048
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 2: can't pay off each other, Like what are we gonna do?

1049
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 2: But we know we can't live together. And there's a

1050
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 2: little part of that right here there, just is.

1051
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 19: And said my last comment is like at the time,

1052
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 19: maybe that was a good deal. And that was the

1053
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 19: thing that Barnart had to do. But here it is,

1054
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 19: this is what he's in and part of Cow's jobs

1055
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 19: to win games, and part of Barnard's job is again,

1056
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 19: this can't go on. He has to find this money.

1057
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 19: And like if he can beg him and say to leave,

1058
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 19: take a biot.

1059
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen.

1060
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: I think that's a conversation probably for next week or tomorrow,

1061
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1062
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it.

1063
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 7: Call.

1064
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 2: I don't think there's an easy answer to this question.

1065
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 2: I think everybody just says firing, where you're gonna get

1066
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: thirty three million dollars? I mean, where's that gonna happen?

1067
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,760
Speaker 2: And the idea is that there's one or two donors

1068
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 2: that will write the check. I'd like to know who

1069
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: those people are, because I know some of those people,

1070
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: and I don't think they're gonna be eager to do it.

1071
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: I mean, let me just just put yourself, Billy, in

1072
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 2: the position of a really rich donor, right, and let's say,

1073
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 2: hypothetically your relationship with cal has soured.

1074
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: Are you eager to write that person a check?

1075
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 7: No?

1076
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: Are you eager to write a person who's relationship you're not?

1077
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: You don't have a good relationship with Now are you

1078
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: eager to write them a check?

1079
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 10: Like?

1080
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: That's a hard thing to do. I mean, I you know,

1081
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 2: Plus I don't care how much. People who get really rich,

1082
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: they don't do it by being stupid and so like

1083
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: given people giving people, Well, just writing checks for losing

1084
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: is not an easy thing to do. Now, some people

1085
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: do it. They did it at Texas A and M.

1086
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't think it's simple. Listen, Texas

1087
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: A and M was able to buy that guy out

1088
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 2: because two dudes did it. But what if those two

1089
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: dudes had decided not to do it. Look, you're talking

1090
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: about the decision. You're really probably talking about the decisions

1091
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: of one or two people.

1092
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: You know, It's not like it's not easy. Who's next, Robert, Robert?

1093
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: What's up? Robert?

1094
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 9: Hey, Matt, thanks for taking my call. Look, I've been

1095
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 9: to Kentucky fan my whole life, and I graduated from

1096
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 9: Kentucky soub believing I've been through, you know, all the

1097
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 9: ups and downs that we've had. I have really two

1098
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 9: brief points. First, you were discussing earlier kind of some

1099
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 9: previous players that maybe underperformed or were kind of held

1100
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 9: back Kentucky, Like you know BJ Bosston for example, who's

1101
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 9: now an NBA. You know two other names I was

1102
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 9: thinking that came to mind as Charles and Matthews didn't

1103
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 9: really perform lot yeah missions, yeah, yeah, that was my

1104
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 9: second name. Had a great career at UCLA.

1105
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 2: We'll think about this. Antonio Reeves is just like those guys.

1106
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: It's just he stayed right like like, yeah, last year,

1107
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: Antonio Reeves did not play until he didn't have a

1108
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: choice but to play, and then he started playing him

1109
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 2: He goes for thirty seven in Arkansas and he and

1110
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: you know, people who know Antonio's situation know, you know,

1111
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: there was a period of time where he didn't look

1112
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 2: like he was gonna come back.

1113
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: Thankfully he did. If if he didn't, I don't know

1114
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: what we would have done this year, but go ahead.

1115
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 9: I think the same thing with like Reid and rob

1116
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 9: this year. You know they didn't start and you can

1117
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 9: look and say, like, oh, we could have done a

1118
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 9: lot of different things. It's like, do you look at

1119
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 9: them the same way if say they go to the

1120
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 9: NBA and be great Like Dewey, wasn't an issue with

1121
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 9: the coaching, with the relationships, who knows and briefly second point,

1122
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 9: You know, I think the main underlying issue all season

1123
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 9: was our defense and rebounding. You know, pretty obvious. Do

1124
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 9: these young guys that come in do they just get

1125
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 9: used to this au stylid ball where they don't really well?

1126
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 2: I just think we had bad defense. We didn't have

1127
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: a rim protector at the end of the day.

1128
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't have a rim protector.

1129
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1130
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 9: They're all skinny, they're not strong. They're getting bullied in

1131
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 9: the paint. I mean, you can't win.

1132
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: When you But some of it is also scheme, and

1133
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. Some of it scheme.

1134
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: You have a team full of guys that shoot threes,

1135
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: you got you cannot give them threes. You cannot. You've

1136
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 2: got to make them. I wish they had made it

1137
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: to win. I mean, the best defense we played was

1138
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: Reeves got put on the the what's this I keep

1139
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 2: forgetting his name?

1140
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: The dude with the hit the threes, the go gol

1141
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: or whatever, Yeah, go gol.

1142
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 2: So Reeves he had made seven Gokie, he had made seven,

1143
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 2: and cal switched and put Reeves on him for the

1144
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 2: first time because it had been Shepherd in Dillingham and

1145
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: Wagner most of the game. He put Reeves on him

1146
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 2: and he only had three after that, and one of

1147
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: them was a shot that you have to just shake

1148
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: his head. It was an amazing shot. But if you

1149
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: notice at the end he missed a lot because Reeves

1150
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 2: actually played him better. I don't understand how from moment

1151
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: one we were like that dude ain't shooting threes because

1152
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 2: the other guy, their star player, actually didn't have a

1153
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 2: great night, the Townsend or the guy that was a

1154
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 2: Horizon Player of the Year, he didn't play all that.

1155
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what he finished with.

1156
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 2: I think he got some points down the streets with

1157
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: free throw seventeen, but he at one point had like

1158
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: eight in the second half. Make somebody else beat you.

1159
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 2: I just ten threes, the old time record Billy's eleven.

1160
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 2: He was one short.

1161
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: He did shoot a lot. Who's next, Dar, Dar, go ahead, Dar.

1162
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 8: That's up man.

1163
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 20: Uh So I know when we when we were in school,

1164
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 20: it was like a given that we made the Sweet sixteen,

1165
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 20: and now it's you know, not assumed at all. So

1166
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 20: my question, I have a two part question. One is

1167
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 20: as a small business owner, as yourself, how upset do

1168
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 20: you get at the money that Calipari costs you.

1169
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: And I don't look at it like that.

1170
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't look at it like that like

1171
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: I even though I mean, look financially, us losing in

1172
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 2: these first rounds is a is.

1173
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: A brutal blow, especially to the bar huge. I mean,

1174
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: it's brutal.

1175
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, that's not what

1176
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of when we lose, because.

1177
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: What matters.

1178
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just tom I'm a fan first. People

1179
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 2: can believe that or not, but you just have to.

1180
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't stay in the arena during these games.

1181
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: And I was like this before I owned anything. I mean,

1182
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 2: I used to remember I started doing this as a

1183
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: blog when I was as part for fun, Like I

1184
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 2: I can't.

1185
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: But does it have an effect?

1186
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 2: Of course it's it has a huge effect, and it's

1187
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: gonna have an effect on this fan base.

1188
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: Just think about this.

1189
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: Think if we had gone to the final four, if

1190
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: these guys did autograph tours, think about how much.

1191
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: Think about that. Now.

1192
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they can't still do it, but like,

1193
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: think about what would have happened if Rob Dillingham and

1194
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 2: Reed Sheppard and Antonio Reeves did an autograph tour around

1195
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: the state and we were in the final four.

1196
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: Like it's a it is.

1197
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 2: It is a massive impact on the state, on the economy,

1198
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 2: like it just is right.

1199
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 20: So so my question is is do you think Calibari

1200
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 20: should for as much money as he makes?

1201
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 9: Should he do anything about that to make up for that?

1202
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 20: And then my question is is I think the best

1203
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 20: coach we've ever had, And a lot of people would

1204
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 20: agree with Patino and with all the talkies had, do

1205
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 20: you think there's any chance he is zero zero?

1206
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 13: No.

1207
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: I appreciate the call that that that won't ever long summer,

1208
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 2: that's that's never gonna happen. Let's do uh, let's do

1209
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 2: six more because I want to go a little long

1210
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: since everybody has a chance to talk, and Drew still

1211
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 2: not here yet for us to go home.

1212
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: So let's do six more. Who's next? Dan?

1213
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 5: Dan?

1214
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:04,919
Speaker 1: What's up? Dan?

1215
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:06,479
Speaker 7: Hey?

1216
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 10: How you doing, Matt?

1217
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 9: Thanks for taking the call?

1218
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: Doing good?

1219
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 21: Hey, it's really time for John Caliperry to hang up

1220
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 21: his hat at the University of Kentucky. You know, I

1221
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 21: was ten years old when Cali Perry came over to

1222
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 21: Kentucky in April two thousand and nine. And you know

1223
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 21: what an incredible time to be a part of the

1224
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 21: Kentucky basketball program. Just incredible energy with the media and everything.

1225
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 21: And you know, Cali Perry had a great national championship

1226
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 21: in twenty twelve. I can remember when fans were burning

1227
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 21: couches and cars and the street in State Street in Lexington.

1228
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 21: But you know, that was really the last great season

1229
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 21: I think Kentucky had Kentucky had in its basketball history,

1230
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 21: and we're not going to be getting another twenty twelve

1231
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 21: season again, if we're honest under Caliperry. I've been saying

1232
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 21: for the last five years that Cali Perry needs to

1233
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 21: leave the program and find a position in the NBA.

1234
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 21: He's put about forty five players so far, I think

1235
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 21: in the NBA, and I think that's a that's a

1236
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 21: great place for him to go after that. And you ask,

1237
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 21: you know, where's he gonna get the thirty three million dollars, Well,

1238
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 21: maybe like an LA Lakers or an LA clip I mean, listen,

1239
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 21: let's be real.

1240
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 2: The NBA doesn't I mean, with respect, and I appreciate

1241
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 2: the call. If the NBA wanted cal he'd already have gone.

1242
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 2: I mean, let's let's be honest, the NBA wanted cal

1243
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 2: he'd already gone. It's the only thing he hasn't succeeded

1244
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 2: at was the NBA. If they had wanted him, he'd

1245
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 2: be in the NBA right now. The only time he

1246
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 2: came close to going was with the Cleveland Calves back

1247
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen, right for the twenty fifteen season. I

1248
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 2: think he I think he was offered that job. I

1249
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: think he was close to going. He decided to stay.

1250
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen now, or I mean, I say,

1251
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 2: I maybe it would, but I think it's unlikely. Again,

1252
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 2: this man, you think he's going to walk away from

1253
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 2: thirty three million dollars just like like it's nothing. Plus

1254
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 2: the NBA again, respectfully, look at the style of basketball

1255
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 2: we've played up to this year. It's the exact opposite

1256
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: of what they do in the NBA. I mean, we've

1257
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: played more of an NBA style this year, But like

1258
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 2: the NBA, space is the floor plays guys who can shoot,

1259
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 2: has versatile bigs who can step outside and.

1260
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: Handle the ball. That's not how we play. So like,

1261
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: the NBA is not gonna want that. Who's next?

1262
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 3: They also adjust their game plan in the NBA. And

1263
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever seen Cal do that in midgame.

1264
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: Well he didn't tonight.

1265
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 2: I don't think what's next, Matt, Matt, although we did

1266
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 2: run maybe the best out of bounds play I've ever

1267
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 2: seen his run to cut it to three right at

1268
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: the end.

1269
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,959
Speaker 1: Again, but that was a really good play. Too little,

1270
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: too late, But Matt, it's gone.

1271
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 3: We go to Johnny.

1272
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: All right, we'll still have five more. Johnny go ahead.

1273
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 22: Hey guys, yeah, I think I must be a profit

1274
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 22: or something. It was right before the season started. Honestly,

1275
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 22: I didn't know much about the team. I went on

1276
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 22: to like a message board. I don't usually do that,

1277
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 22: and uh, and I said, look, you know, I don't

1278
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 22: know the team. But the pattern is this.

1279
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 10: We have double digit losses.

1280
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 22: We win some, we lose some. We lose all the

1281
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 22: big Marquee games or most of them. Uh, we don't

1282
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 22: win the Sea.

1283
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: I hate to cut you off. I hate to cut

1284
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: you off. I'll let you finish. But the guy that

1285
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: hit all the threes just walked into the hotel.

1286
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 3: Oh, now, what are you gonna do?

1287
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: The coach and the guy who just hit all the

1288
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: threes just walked in over there. All right, I'm sorry,

1289
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: go ahead, sir.

1290
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 2: It's so good.

1291
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: Uh.

1292
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 22: But yeah, you know we're gonna We're not gonna win

1293
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 22: the SEC regular Season Championship or the tournament.

1294
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:38,479
Speaker 8: Uh.

1295
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 22: And frankly, if we make it out of the first

1296
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 22: weekend in the n C douable A, you know, the

1297
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 22: real tournament. According to Cal, we're lucky if we even

1298
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 22: win a game. And man, people blasted me, called me

1299
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 22: all kinds of crap. You know, I went to the

1300
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 22: UK undergrad gradam from Orangeboro. You know, grew up watching

1301
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 22: Rex playball. I mean, I bleed blue. Uh. And I

1302
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 22: live here, and I live in Chapel Hill, North Carolina.

1303
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 22: I'm stuck between Tar Hills and Blue Devils. And now

1304
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 22: I got to put up with this.

1305
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 5: But I got to tell you.

1306
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 22: I mean, I love Cal. He's done good things for us.

1307
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 22: He brought us out of the Gillispi Eira. But definitely

1308
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 22: his time has come. And I really think that, you know,

1309
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,959
Speaker 22: maybe if a little soul searching, if he'll think about

1310
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 22: it and they can come to some type of bayout.

1311
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 22: If he really cares about Kentucky, he really cares about

1312
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 22: our fan base and everything, like he says he does,

1313
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 22: he'll he'll, he'll walk away. He'll do the honorable thing

1314
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 22: and walk away, but not without a big pay at

1315
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 22: And I don't know who does that, frankly, the athletics administration.

1316
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 22: If they were stupid enough to sign a lifetime contract

1317
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,479
Speaker 22: with him or anybody else, well, then the stupid enough

1318
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 22: to pay it out. So somebody's got to listen.

1319
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I appreciate the call.

1320
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 2: There was Uh, Kyle Tucker did ask Mitch Barnhardt for

1321
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 2: a for a comment and he.

1322
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: Refused to be interviewed after the game.

1323
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 2: That's let me just say, that's not a good sign,

1324
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 2: because if you think about the painful losses Kentucky's had

1325
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 2: over the years, he usually gives some sort of statement

1326
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 2: of like, you know, it's tough loss, by support the

1327
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 2: guys sports coach. Him not speaking, I thought was a

1328
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 2: very don't. I don't know that he's ever done that before.

1329
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that I ever remember him doing that.

1330
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: I cannot believe by the way that we that we

1331
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 2: have to be in the hotel while these guys are

1332
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 2: coming back. I mean, are you kidding me? Like this

1333
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 2: wouldn't this would be one if we were on like

1334
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 2: ESPN or something. People wouldn't believe it, Like literally, Golkie

1335
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 2: is like standing over.

1336
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 3: There that opening monologue you had. There were cheers in

1337
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 3: the background the whole time.

1338
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 1: I know, I mean, I hated it, but there was

1339
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: nowhere else to go.

1340
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 2: There's no other hotel close to this arena than this one,

1341
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 2: and I I was running out of time. I almost

1342
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 2: walked into a bar and they were blasting, you know,

1343
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 2: pit Bull, and I'm like, I can't do it in there.

1344
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: So I had to come in here because it was

1345
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: the only place I had. So who's next, Thomas, Thomas,

1346
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 1: what's up Thomas?

1347
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 8: Nobody should blame Mitch Barnhardt is the time we signed cow,

1348
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 8: he was at the top of the world. But I

1349
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 8: hope on Monday morning you guys have the analytics of

1350
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 8: how often we played our most productive five guys at

1351
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 8: the same time in this game.

1352
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean, I don't know if you

1353
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 2: heard that I said it earlier. I don't know about

1354
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 2: productive five. But when Reid, Rob and Reeves were in

1355
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 2: the game together, and remember Reed did not even play well.

1356
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 2: But when Reid, Rob and Reeves were in together, we

1357
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 2: were plus four. And when they were out. When one

1358
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 2: of the three of them wasn't in, we were minus eight.

1359
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: So when we.

1360
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 2: Played our best players, which is to me, that's my

1361
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 2: biggest complaint about the year, is not who started it,

1362
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 2: is we didn't. We have three of the best shooters

1363
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 2: to ever play at this school, three of the six

1364
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 2: best percentage three point shooters that ever wore a Kentucky uniform,

1365
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 2: and he would not play them together.

1366
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: And when he played them together.

1367
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 2: We scored because you can't guard all of them and

1368
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 2: somebody would be open. And guess what at the end

1369
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 2: of the game, when we made the run that cut

1370
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: it to one and we had the ball with a

1371
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 2: chance to lead, guess who was in the game, The

1372
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 2: three of them together, and he just wouldn't do that.

1373
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 2: And I don't understand.

1374
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 8: Why, because he let the old man in. I'm just

1375
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 8: telling you, analytics don't matter anymore. When he goes takes over.

1376
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're I think, and I appreciate the call.

1377
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 2: I do think there's a big part of col that

1378
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 2: I'll always take up for him that he wants to win.

1379
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 2: The people say who he doesn't care about winning. He

1380
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 2: was as down tonight as I've ever seen him in

1381
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 2: the press conference. I mean that, like, I'm not just

1382
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 2: saying that he was as down to night as I've

1383
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 2: ever seen.

1384
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: But he wants to win. But Billy, he wants to

1385
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: win his way.

1386
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: Right, It's more important to lose his way than to

1387
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 2: win your way. And I think that is ultimately pride

1388
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 2: goes before the fall. And I think that's a little

1389
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 2: bit of what we add here. Three more, Who's next, Jerry?

1390
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 1: Jerry? What's up? Jack?

1391
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 7: I guess you're sitting there looking at Goldie's a little

1392
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 7: bit of salt in the loan, doesn't it.

1393
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding, It's unbelievable. Literally, it's unbelievable that there

1394
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 1: he I mean he's literally right over there there he goes.

1395
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: Look at that hair, I mean that hair. All right,

1396
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: go ahead, make sure.

1397
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 2: It's not his fault. Listen, I'm happy leave aside us with.

1398
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 2: I mean, like, you got a what an amazing story

1399
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:26,759
Speaker 2: that kid is and the other.

1400
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: Kid his parents both played. His parents both played at Oakland.

1401
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 2: His dad was like in the photo section tonight, like

1402
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 2: those are amazing stories.

1403
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 1: That's what's great about college basketball.

1404
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 2: And even though we lost, they better never change this

1405
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 2: tournament because this is what's great about it?

1406
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, one hundred percent. I know they've been calling for more,

1407
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 7: you know teams. I think that's ridiculous. But look, there's

1408
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 7: gonna be ninety ninety five percent of the fans that

1409
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 7: wants a change, and I think it's been a high

1410
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:02,799
Speaker 7: percentage even going into this year. And I think because

1411
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 7: we love this team so much and enjoy to watch

1412
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 7: them so much, I think that has kept that, you know,

1413
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 7: the cause for him to go at Bay because we

1414
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 7: love I agree with that.

1415
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: I agree with that.

1416
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 2: I think he's taken a lot less criticism this year

1417
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 2: because everyone loved those players so much.

1418
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: I agree with that.

1419
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 7: That's there's no question about that. The other thing is

1420
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 7: the thing that has bothered me, and it has really

1421
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 7: irked me this year more than any time in the past.

1422
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 7: And even he's been done it for a long time.

1423
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,480
Speaker 7: But you know, we're not fans if we criticize.

1424
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate that, and I hate it that is that.

1425
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 7: Is such a slap in the face to people. You're

1426
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 7: talking to a guy when when I was in grade

1427
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 7: school fifty years ago, forty five fifty years ago, I

1428
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 7: would come in because all the games are on take

1429
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 7: delay for the most part. So I would come in,

1430
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 7: my mother would make me go to sleep at eight o'clock.

1431
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 7: She'd wake me up at eleven thirty after the news

1432
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 7: went off. I would watch the game and me and

1433
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 7: as a kid, I love this program. And for him

1434
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 7: to say that I hain't got a right to criticize

1435
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,719
Speaker 7: him as a coach, and I never criticized the player

1436
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 7: I coached twenty five years. So I don't criticize kids,

1437
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 7: but coaching, and I don't like to even do that.

1438
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:34,520
Speaker 7: But they are so many obvious things that has complete

1439
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 7: you have to lay it at his feet. There's no

1440
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 7: other place to be.

1441
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 1: There's no where else can you put it. I mean,

1442
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 1: it's Oakland.

1443
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 2: It's Oakland and Saint Peter's man like, it's you know

1444
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 2: what I mean, it's Oakland and Saint Peter's.

1445
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 7: Look. They play, they play a two three amba defense.

1446
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 7: It's a matchup. It's not we were so on prepared

1447
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 7: offensively to a pack sad. Yeah, we were, we just

1448
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 7: was I mean that he looked like we had just

1449
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 7: showed up three or four. Did we bowl for the

1450
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 7: last four days? I don't know.

1451
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he also I think he.

1452
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 7: Was not prepared to play.

1453
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 1: He almost takes he almost just saying it.

1454
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 2: He almost takes joy sometimes in telling us stuff to

1455
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 2: make us mad, Like he'll say things like, I know

1456
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 2: y'all aren't gonna like this, but I took him bowling,

1457
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 2: Like I don't care that he takes him bowling, Like

1458
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 2: it doesn't bother me.

1459
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: But like, why why say it like that? You know

1460
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: what I mean?

1461
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: Like, why does he do that? Why it's I agree

1462
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 2: with you? He acts like if you criticize him, you're

1463
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 2: not a fan. And he says that all the time.

1464
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you know how many times he has taken

1465
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 2: something I've said and then said, if you say this,

1466
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 2: you're not a fan.

1467
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: Billy.

1468
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 2: How many times does that happen this year? I mean

1469
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 2: how many times it's happened? Twenty times, several And it's like, yes,

1470
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 2: I am a fan. I've said this all year. We

1471
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 2: were here before him, and we will be here after him.

1472
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 2: Coaches and players are are placeholders, they're important, but the

1473
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 2: fans are what makes this program.

1474
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 1: And I feel like he has forgotten that.

1475
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 7: The name on the front of the jersey, and this

1476
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 7: is something I don't think he's ever really believed, but

1477
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 7: the name on the front of the jersey, because of

1478
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 7: who it is is just as important as the name

1479
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 7: on the back, if not a little more. I agree,

1480
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 7: I don't think that they've always He's always approached it

1481
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 7: that way. This is the University of Kentucky, this Haint Memphis,

1482
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 7: this Haint U Mass. And that's the thing I always

1483
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 7: respected about of Rick Patino. He was Kentucky. It was

1484
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 7: about the brand. And you know, and I know you

1485
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 7: guys don't like him and all that, but I.

1486
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 1: Don't hang on just a second. I don't, Oh, you

1487
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 1: mean Rick Patino. First, I don't. I don't. Let me

1488
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 1: be clear, I don't dislike Cal at all. I mean,

1489
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: I like you, and I don't I mean Rick.

1490
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 2: There was a period I probably disliked him, but I've

1491
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 2: gotten older and at some point you realize disliking people

1492
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 2: just to waste the time. And so I don't, to

1493
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 2: be honest with you, I kind of hoped he made

1494
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 2: the tournament this year.

1495
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: But but you're right he did, and and Cal did in.

1496
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 2: His early years appreciate Kentucky for being Kentucky, not just

1497
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,520
Speaker 2: sort of a factory for him.

1498
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, exactly. But now you go look at the

1499
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 7: eight years that Rick was here.

1500
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: Well, I don't want versus Cal. I don't want. I

1501
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 1: don't think that gets us anywhere.

1502
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. I'm just I just think this

1503
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 7: is a cool thing to look at it things puts

1504
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 7: things in perspective. And I'm I'm not advocating for Rick,

1505
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 7: which I woke up in the morning. He was my

1506
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 7: basketball coach. I'd be a happy guy. But but you

1507
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,759
Speaker 7: look at the eight year run hit us five times

1508
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 7: more impressive when you look he started from the death

1509
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 7: penalty in three years. He had him in a regional

1510
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,480
Speaker 7: championship game and he took a miracle Christiannery.

1511
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do think and and I appreciate the call.

1512
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take up for Cal on this. Our first

1513
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,600
Speaker 2: eight years were pretty impressive too. We weren't in the

1514
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 2: death penalty, but we did mint. I mean, we did

1515
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 2: go to the NIT with Billy, and then the next

1516
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 2: year were the number one team in the country. So

1517
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 2: I do think I'll put Cal's first up eight years

1518
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 2: up with anybody I'm talking about the last four or

1519
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 2: five years. It's like in baseball, Billy, I know you're

1520
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 2: a baseball guy when you start paying people for what

1521
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 2: they did when they were good. That's where you screw up.

1522
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 2: When you play Albert Pujols thirty million dollars because he

1523
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 2: hit all those home runs ten years ago. That's when

1524
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 2: your franchise screws up. And that's what's happening right now.

1525
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 2: Like I'll put his first eight or nine years up

1526
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 2: with anybody, But the question is what are we gonna

1527
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 2: get next year? In the history has suggested that it

1528
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 2: ain't gonna be that great. Let's do two more. Who's next?

1529
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 1: Mike?

1530
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 2: Speaking of Mike, shout out to Mike Golick, who just

1531
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:08,839
Speaker 2: tweeted that he was listening.

1532
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 1: I think people, wow, revel in our misery right now.

1533
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 2: But I would do the same thing if it was

1534
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 2: North Carolina or Duke or Kansas.

1535
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 1: So I can't. I can't. I can't get upset, Mike.

1536
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Mike, hey man, what's going on from this team?

1537
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 1: Who comes back next year? Yeah? I don't know.

1538
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I would have told you before the game

1539
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: that there's no way Reed Shepherd would have come back.

1540
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 2: But he had what three points? He gave up about

1541
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 2: twenty on a dude that was a D three player.

1542
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know.

1543
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 2: As far as who comes back, Cal did leave open

1544
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 2: that some people would come back.

1545
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 1: Let's be real. The first questions, what's gonna happen with Cal?

1546
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 2: Because Cale doesn't come back, none of these dudes will

1547
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 2: come back, not one of them. So you're gonna be

1548
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 2: starting over. That is that is true. You'll if Kyle

1549
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 2: doesn't come back, you'll lose everybody.

1550
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: So like, that's so we'll just.

1551
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 22: Say he's got out the line.

1552
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: You know, you're placing people that are leaving this year.

1553
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,600
Speaker 2: But by the way, that's another thing to remember is

1554
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 2: if Cal leaves, none of these recruits will coming. So

1555
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 2: you do have a situation where you're gonna be starting

1556
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 2: from scratch.

1557
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: But go ahead, I think, and he started dragging about the.

1558
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 22: NBA players that came through this school.

1559
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 2: I can't hear you. Yeah, I'm sorry, it's on. Uh well,

1560
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 2: we'll do two different ones. I'm sorry. I mean, I

1561
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 2: know I'd like to have heard you, but you're bluetoothing

1562
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 2: or something like that.

1563
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: Who's next, Glenn, Glenn? Go ahead, Glenn, Glenn.

1564
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 23: I don't know the yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know

1565
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 23: the financials of the university. You know, Cow's Bay is

1566
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 23: thirty three million, but the cost of not making a

1567
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 23: change will be far more than thirty three million. You're

1568
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 23: gonna lose a generation of fans. I have a ten

1569
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 23: year old son who did not watch the game tonight

1570
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,680
Speaker 23: because he just said, well, there gonna lose like I

1571
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 23: did last year. That's heartbreaking to me. We're in jeopardy

1572
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 23: of being Aye, you and I don't want to be

1573
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 23: iyuse Kentucky. We were here before Cal, we was here

1574
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 23: during CAL. We will be here after Cal. We've got

1575
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 23: to make a change.

1576
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: Right now.

1577
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 23: I'll get off and listen.

1578
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's pretty You're pretty definitive, and that's

1579
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:25,719
Speaker 2: pretty clear.

1580
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 1: I don't need that anything. Let's do one morning. If

1581
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 1: it's good, Billy, we'll call it an evening.

1582
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 3: Let's try another, Mike, Mike, go ahead, Mike.

1583
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1584
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 24: Hey, So you know, I feel like most of the

1585
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 24: calls tonight haven't been haven't been angry enough. I feel

1586
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 24: like it's mostly been been abbath even sadness, and I

1587
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 24: feel like there's just there's no more beating around the bush.

1588
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 24: All right, Cal's gotta go. All right, we have to

1589
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 24: rip the band aid off. I know it's not gonna

1590
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 24: be It's not gonna be easy. But I feel like

1591
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 24: the last few years we've been in that phase that

1592
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 24: programs can be in the end of an era where

1593
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 24: it's hard to move on from a championship coach. And

1594
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 24: I've been saying this to my buddies for the last

1595
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:07,839
Speaker 24: few years, and.

1596
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 11: I feel like I feel like.

1597
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 24: He's not necessarily running the program into the ground, but

1598
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 24: it's become very stale.

1599
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: It has become stale. I agree with that it's become stay.

1600
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 24: I think part of the and I think part of

1601
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 24: the problem, and some of the other callers had hit

1602
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 24: on this earlier. I think part of the problem is

1603
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 24: the state of the program that he's built. There's just

1604
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 24: no continuity from from from year to year.

1605
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 1: Weather players. Now, that's not good. That's gonna be true

1606
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: no matter what.

1607
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 2: That was true here for a long time, but it's

1608
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 2: gonna be true everywhere with the transfer portal, the days

1609
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 2: I have in dudes for four years, and you're sitting

1610
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 2: like that ain't gonna happen. I mean so so yes,

1611
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: I agree, there's not a lot of continuity. And that

1612
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 2: might have been a complaint a few years ago, but

1613
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 2: that's everywhere in college basketball now. You just got assume

1614
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 2: that you got one year teams.

1615
01:21:58,720 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 8: That's true.

1616
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 24: But but some of the other top programs, whether it's

1617
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 24: it's Yukon, Purdue Houston, you know, I feel like they

1618
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 24: do have a little more than that, and I feel

1619
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 24: like and I feel like they build their programs a

1620
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 24: little differently. And I don't know if Kl's capable of

1621
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 24: doing that, because whether whether guys transfer or go pro,

1622
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 24: it's very there's just no continuity from year to year,

1623
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:26,679
Speaker 24: and it's not sustainable because like this year, for example,

1624
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 24: this year, next year's team, whether we've got great players

1625
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 24: or not, next year's team is not going to be

1626
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 24: as good, as likable, as exciting as this year's team.

1627
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: And that worries me about next year's team.

1628
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 2: By the way, everything we liked about this year's team,

1629
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 2: none of the guys coming next.

1630
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 1: Year do that kind of stuff class like it's gonna

1631
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 1: be exactly, you know, exactly.

1632
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 24: So so you have to assume, and nothing against any

1633
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 24: of the players coming in next year, but you have

1634
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 24: to assume next year's team isn't gonna be as good.

1635
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 24: And so from from the jump, like fans just aren't

1636
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 24: gonna be as excited and that's not just and that's

1637
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 24: not a sustainable approach to a program that all these

1638
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 24: other top programs are doing.

1639
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 2: All RIGHT'M about to cut you off because I got

1640
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 2: I just had somebody walk in, and we're going we

1641
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 2: don't have much longer we can do, so I appreciate it.

1642
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 2: I might have Drew because he's he hasn't said anything.

1643
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let Drew do a minute or two. I

1644
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 2: only have one headset, so I might have to hand

1645
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 2: it to him. This lady right here, Drew said you

1646
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 2: were the the centerpiece, the core of KSR, so I

1647
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 2: put so with that pressure, just the first time you've

1648
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 2: said something about the game, What do you think?

1649
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 25: Like many of our listeners, I'm well, a little broken,

1650
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,560
Speaker 25: a little sad. I'm kind of in a little a

1651
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 25: little bit of a like a fog, like did that

1652
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 25: really just happen? It's both unbelievable and believable that they

1653
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 25: would lose to that team. And like I said all week,

1654
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 25: for me, it's not it's not the zone, it's not

1655
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 25: the three point shooter, it's not Dray Townsend, it's not

1656
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 25: their coach of forty years, it's I don't understand what

1657
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 25: is going on behind the scenes that I'm watching Kentucky

1658
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 25: basketball be the team that's afraid of the team they're playing.

1659
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 25: It just doesn't look right that Oakland is pumping their

1660
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 25: chest when the crowd is ninety percent blue. I don't

1661
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 25: understand why A and M has the confidence. I don't

1662
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 25: understand why Saint Peter's had the confidence. And then it

1663
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 25: gets to point the game when you've hit seven threes,

1664
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 25: then you're gonna have all of the confidence. There's just

1665
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 25: something happening, and I don't know what it is, but

1666
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 25: Kentucky looks so tight in these games, and I don't

1667
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 25: know if it's something Cow's telling them. I don't know

1668
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 25: if they're filling it. I don't know what it is.

1669
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: But it just doesn't add up.

1670
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 25: People should fear that logo, especially in the NCAA tournament,

1671
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 25: But in these games, recently, these meaningful games, the Kentucky

1672
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 25: that I'm watching is the one that looks scared. And

1673
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 25: that's not how it's supposed to work. When everything is

1674
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 25: in your favor. You have the talent, the draft picks,

1675
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 25: the Hall of Fame coach, you've got the whole crowd,

1676
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 25: you've got the path. You're a fifteen point favorite. I

1677
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 25: don't understand why you're the ones that are looking scared

1678
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 25: of the forty year old that was amazing, by the way,

1679
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 25: not to discredit him, but that's a mid major. That's

1680
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 25: this is not supposed to happen. Maybe a one off,

1681
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 25: you go, holy crap, it was one of those nights.

1682
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 25: We'll get them next year. But this is now seven

1683
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 25: or three years in a row of just coming home

1684
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 25: early from the tournament, and it's it's unbelievable. As a

1685
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 25: Kentucky fan, this is what we look forward to. And

1686
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 25: I assume we haven't figured this out yet, but when

1687
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 25: we end the show at twelve tomorrow, I would like

1688
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 25: to get in the car as fast as possible and

1689
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 25: get the hell away from this city and go sit

1690
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 25: on the couch like the rest of Big Blue Nation,

1691
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 25: which is unfortunately, unfortunately become a tradition for us, is

1692
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,719
Speaker 25: watching the second weekend and the third weekend from home.

1693
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 25: But that's what we're gonna do, and I'm not looking

1694
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 25: forward to that. But here we are.

1695
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I agree with all that. All right,

1696
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 1: I'll just finish with this.

1697
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 2: I want to be clear that you know, first of all,

1698
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 2: thank you everybody that's listening this season. This will be

1699
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:53,560
Speaker 2: the last show we do for for the year, obviously,

1700
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 2: but I want to be very definitive and clear with

1701
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 2: what I think about all thisjan cal Perry has been

1702
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 2: a great coach for the University of Kentucky. I think

1703
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 2: he has been brought a ton of awesome memories, experiences,

1704
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 2: and success to this school. He produced more NBA players

1705
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 2: than anyone. He's produced a ton of talent. He's produced

1706
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 2: the most memorable games. And on a personal level, I

1707
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 2: am not a lawyer because John cal Perry came here

1708
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 2: and made Kentucky basketball something that could be a career.

1709
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: But all good things come to an end.

1710
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 2: And as awesome of pers human as I think he is,

1711
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 2: and as awesome a coach as I think he's been,

1712
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 2: and as much as he's done from the state of

1713
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 2: Kentucky from a charity perspective, from a leadership perspective, the

1714
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:58,879
Speaker 2: last four years are not Kentucky basketball. And the easiest

1715
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 2: way in business and in life to screw up is

1716
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 2: to make decisions based on the past and not the future.

1717
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 2: If you're judging the past, cal Perry should be the

1718
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 2: coach forever. But if we're being honest, and we're judging

1719
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 2: now in the future, it's probably time for both sides

1720
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 2: to shake their hands say thank you for all you've done.

1721
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,759
Speaker 2: You've made you brought Kentucky basketball back from a down

1722
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:32,680
Speaker 2: period in the late two thousands. Cal should say you

1723
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 2: guys have helped make me the most known coach in

1724
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 2: the country and a multi multi millionaire, and we've all

1725
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:41,839
Speaker 2: had great times.

1726
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 1: But it's probably time for us to each move on

1727
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 1: to me. That's the only way this can go forward.

1728
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 2: Otherwise we're in for an off season that will be

1729
01:27:55,439 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 2: tumultuous and bitter. We don't need that and he doesn't

1730
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 2: need that. So it's probably time to shake hands. In part,

1731
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 2: thank you folks very much for listening. Congrats to Oakland,

1732
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: Thanks to Billy for the whole year football and basketball

1733
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 2: being here. We'll be around. We'll do the show tomorrow morning.

1734
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,719
Speaker 2: And it's springtime now. I guess I can go watch

1735
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 2: the Reds lose. Thank you all very much. We'll see

1736
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 2: you later. This has been the local Twitter Dealers KSR

1737
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 2: postgame show.