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Speaker 2: and Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural,

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Speaker 2: and the unexplained ends here. We invite you to enjoy

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Speaker 2: all our shows we have on this network, and right now,

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Speaker 2: let's start with Chase of the Afterlife with Santra Champlain.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and

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Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do

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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been

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Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.

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Speaker 3: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know

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Speaker 3: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife and welcome

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Speaker 3: to our two hundredth episode celebration. I have three great

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Speaker 1: Sandrew, my pleasure and congratulations on your two hundredth show.

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Speaker 1: Now, the first time we heard you, we were impressed

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. Next,

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Speaker 3: and that there is an afterlife. And that's really what

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Speaker 3: I try to inject in every episode of Shades of

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Speaker 3: the Afterlife, because I know that love and Tom if

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Speaker 3: I can tell you we love our pets often more

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Speaker 3: than we love human beings, so that grief can be

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Speaker 3: even worse.

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Speaker 4: I was just going to say, you are You're so wonderful,

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Speaker 4: because I'm just not there. I can't. There is no

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Speaker 4: right time for me for my dog. And I don't

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Speaker 4: want to go into this anymore because it upsets me,

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Speaker 4: it really does. But there's no right time, you know.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure ifau'll ever get there. But I was

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Speaker 4: just wondering waiting for you to get done with George.

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Speaker 4: I was wondering what your thoughts were on that, And

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Speaker 4: so that's why I want to ask you that question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my advice to anyone, whether it's a pet or

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Speaker 3: tell you, we human beings have been through a lot,

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Speaker 3: and we have to trust our future selves that we'll

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Speaker 3: handle things then, as we've made so many decisions in

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Speaker 3: the future always, And how am I going to deal

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Speaker 3: And you love mister Freddie with all your heart, and

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Speaker 3: I know he feels the same way about you.

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Speaker 4: Just not a good question, Okay, So my second question

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Speaker 4: to you, I wanted to ask you, what do you

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Speaker 4: say in you meaning anybody that comes across this to

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Speaker 4: people that just don't believe there's an afterlife?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's important to know what kind of

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Speaker 3: skeptic we're dealing with. There are people called open minded skeptics,

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Speaker 3: and then there are closed minded skeptics. The open minded

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Speaker 3: skeptics are you know, I really don't believe in this,

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Speaker 3: but I'm open to hear what you have to say,

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Speaker 3: in which case I'd tell them about some of my

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Speaker 3: journey because I was a skeptic. I didn't believe in

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Speaker 3: any of this, but again an open minded skeptic. But

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Speaker 3: then Tom, there's these closed minded skeptics that will cross

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to believe we can't get through to

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Speaker 3: those people. We can imagine that someday they'll have a

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Speaker 3: and hopefully they're open. But we can't force this upon anyone.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain

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Speaker 3: and thank you for joining us today on our two

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Speaker 3: hundredth episode celebration. In this segment, you're going to meet

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Speaker 3: Dani and Brinkley, who was struck by lightning. He's had

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Speaker 3: three near death experiences and he's made his life about

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Speaker 3: helping others in such a unique way. But before we

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Speaker 3: get to him, we're going to hear some more from

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Speaker 3: our producer Tom. Shades of the Afterlife was his idea,

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Speaker 3: and I'm so grateful that he asked me to be

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Speaker 3: the host. Tom had asked me my ideas of dealing

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Speaker 3: with skeptics. There are open minded skeptics and there are

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Speaker 3: closed minded skeptics. So let me continue my answer to

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Speaker 3: Tom Emen Alexander the neurosurgeon. He said that every open

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Speaker 3: minded skeptic weather arms crossed and said, no, I don't believe,

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Speaker 3: but I'm open. He's turned them into a believer with

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Speaker 3: such great stories of near death experiences and especially the

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Speaker 3: verifiable evidence that so many near death experiencers have. So

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Speaker 3: there's hope for skeptics. But my recommendation is to be open,

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Speaker 3: be open that there's something more.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a good answer. And I do like Evans'

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Speaker 4: work a lot. I do like him. Okay, right, for

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Speaker 4: my third one, and this is the final question, I'll

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Speaker 4: let's get back to it because I kind of hijacked

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Speaker 4: you for a minute. Do you think in the afterlife

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Speaker 4: that we are forgiven? And what I mean by that

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Speaker 4: is nobody's perfect in this life, nobody, And so you know,

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Speaker 4: we do bad things sometimes right, or things maybe we

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Speaker 4: shouldn't do, but maybe we keep doing them, and yet

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Speaker 4: we go, man, we shouldn't do this.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of relating it to in tune to like

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Speaker 4: someone shouldn't be eating twinkies every day, right, So they

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Speaker 4: say I'm going to stop, and then they go, oh, man,

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Speaker 4: I don't eat this Twinkie. So they know, is what

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to say. That's my point. They know, and

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Speaker 4: yet they do it. And so I'm just curious if

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Speaker 4: you think we're forgiven.

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Speaker 3: Definitely. First of all, the hardest part of our soul's

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Speaker 3: existence is this life here on earth. It's brutal sometimes,

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Speaker 3: and we have the ego and the voice that says,

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Speaker 3: have another Twinkie. We all have that. But I think

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Speaker 3: the nature of us living this life is for our

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Speaker 3: souls to have different experiences really and to have that

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Speaker 3: soul growth. And I don't think there is a being

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Speaker 3: that judges us from all the near death experiences. I've heard,

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Speaker 3: there's what's called the life review, and we get to

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Speaker 3: experience our life from the viewpoint of other people, so

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Speaker 3: we get to feel whether we said something we shouldn't

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Speaker 3: have said or hurt their feelings, but we also get

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Speaker 3: to experience the good that we've done and the ripple

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Speaker 3: effect of that. So our divine self can look back

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Speaker 3: at our human life and say, Okay, you kept promising

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Speaker 3: yourself you wouldn't need another Twinkie, but you did. Let's

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Speaker 3: forgive you. So it's only us, And I don't even

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Speaker 3: want to say we judge ourselves, but we look back

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Speaker 3: on our lives where we have grown and what we

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Speaker 3: could have done better, and for the future we have learned.

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Speaker 3: So I hope that answers it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it does. But I will tell you that many

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Speaker 4: people do judge themselves.

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Speaker 3: I'm one of those people. I definitely am. But when

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Speaker 3: we cross over, we get a bigger understanding of why

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Speaker 3: and who we were, and some of the toughest times

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Speaker 3: we have in our life become a gift where we

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Speaker 3: can help another human being. So try not to be

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Speaker 3: so hard on yourself.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to cross over anytime soon, but I'm

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Speaker 4: sure it's even more wonderful than anybody can imagine.

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Speaker 3: You can't cross over. We got two hundred plus more

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Speaker 3: episodes of Shades of the Afterlife to go. Well, Tom,

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Speaker 3: thanks so much for being our guest today.

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Speaker 8: Of course, absolutely, I enjoyed it very much. Talking to

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Speaker 8: you me too. You're going to meet Danian Brinkley, who

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Speaker 8: first appeared on Shades of the Afterlife way back on

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Speaker 8: episode twenty nine. He is a man who has survived

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Speaker 8: three near death experiences, has written several books. In fact,

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Speaker 8: his New York Times best selling book Saved by the

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Speaker 8: Light has sold over twenty million copies. His story was

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Speaker 8: made into a movie which has now been viewed over

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Speaker 8: one hundred million times. Our friend Danian Brinkley not only

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Speaker 8: talks about the afterlife, but has a passion for supporting

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Speaker 8: our veterans and actually all of humanity. As founder of

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Speaker 8: the Twilight Brigade, Danian has spent thousands of hours by

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Speaker 8: the bedside of hundreds who have passed and believes all

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Speaker 8: of us should be educated in end of life care because,

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Speaker 8: in his words, if you're breathing, you're leaving.

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Speaker 3: Danian, welcome back to Shades of Afterlife and Sandra, congratulations.

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Speaker 7: Two hundred episodes and it's a pleasure to be a

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Speaker 7: part of this. I think that the concept of the

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Speaker 7: near death experience is bringing such a new awareness to

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Speaker 7: this illusion of what we call death. I'm a devout

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Speaker 7: believer in that no one dies, and once a person

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Speaker 7: begins to grip that concept, a whole other level of

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Speaker 7: consciousness opens up to them without ever having a near

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Speaker 7: death experience. So people just listen to these experiences and

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Speaker 7: always never believe everything you hear. But if you listen,

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Speaker 7: the construct that has controlled our reality of the illusion

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Speaker 7: of what's next. The near death experiences and programs like

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Speaker 7: yours is washing away that illusion, and we're beginning to

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Speaker 7: realize the great, powerful and mighty nature of our spiritual identity.

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Speaker 7: And I'm really proud for you to have persevered through

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Speaker 7: the years with the diligent support of your mom to

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Speaker 7: make all this happen.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thanks so much for that. There's a lot of

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Speaker 3: people that are skeptical, Danian, but they're open. They want

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Speaker 3: to believe. What would you say to them.

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Speaker 7: Open up your heart before you open up your mind,

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Speaker 7: Open up your heart, before you open up your mind,

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Speaker 7: and look at how it's constructed. The basic premise of

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Speaker 7: what happens, the lifting out of the body, the life review,

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Speaker 7: the consciousness awareness of who you are. No one dies,

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Speaker 7: and yes there's Hell's experiences, but that's about less than

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Speaker 7: three percent. And if you listen to it intently saying,

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Speaker 7: you get a chance to hear what that person's working through.

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Speaker 7: So when you come up with the concept about people

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Speaker 7: being skeptical, I would have been skeptical myself, sayan because

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't have bought into it if it had not

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Speaker 7: happened to me. So I support that. But what people

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Speaker 7: really need to do is open up their hearts before

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Speaker 7: they opened up their mind. We've all been conditioned with religions, institutions,

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Speaker 7: and governments with a fear of what we call death. Well,

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Speaker 7: what we call death never happens. I have been around

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Speaker 7: thousands of people. I have been with two thousand and

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Speaker 7: seventeen people going from this world to the next, and

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Speaker 7: three hundred and fifty eight taken their last breath. And

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Speaker 7: I've been through a death experience and were literally three

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Speaker 7: near death experiences and had to be clinically resuscitated twice.

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Speaker 7: So spending the last forty eight years as a hospice

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Speaker 7: volunteer and going through these experiences, I can tell skeptics, believers, everyone,

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Speaker 7: categorically you will not die. And what you have to

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Speaker 7: do is let go of the illusion of all the

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Speaker 7: things that religions and institutions and governments have perpetuated upon

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Speaker 7: us to get us to be less in control of

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Speaker 7: our divine self and thereby being better controlled by our

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Speaker 7: human self. And this is the paradigm that shift absolutely.

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Speaker 3: And let's talk a little bit about hospice and end

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Speaker 3: of life training, because in our current day, most people

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Speaker 3: are hidden from death. People are in nursing homes, they

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Speaker 3: go to hospitals. How important is it for each one

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Speaker 3: of us to understand the dying process and what the

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Speaker 3: dying need, because, like you say, if we're breathing, we're leaving.

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Speaker 7: It's imperative. Now, this is a personal viewpoint saying I

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Speaker 7: believe that evil has its greatest power in end of

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Speaker 7: life being having more than forty thousand dollars at the

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Speaker 7: bedside and watching what happens between the person in transition

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Speaker 7: and the family members. Evil controls, It destroys families, It

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Speaker 7: creates bridges and relationships, It creates negligence, and people not

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Speaker 7: understanding this process plays right into the hands of those

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Speaker 7: who are trying to control us and trying to run

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Speaker 7: our lives and to keep us in fear. I'm a

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Speaker 7: giant believer in breathing because I believe that breath is

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Speaker 7: the most important thing that a person must focus on.

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Speaker 7: And how deep you breathe tells you how much you

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Speaker 7: appreciate the life you have. And if you're frightened and afraid,

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00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 7: then you breathe even less shallow and you get less

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Speaker 7: oxygen to your brain, which slows down your system. People

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Speaker 7: have to understand no one is going to die in

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Speaker 7: the way that you're told you transition and why I

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Speaker 7: became a hospice volunteers in the Life review saying, you

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Speaker 7: see your whole life pass before you in a three

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Speaker 7: hundred and sixty degree panorama. You watch it from a

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00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 7: first person point of view as though you were your

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Speaker 7: own best friend, and then you literally become every person

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Speaker 7: that you ever encounter, and you feel the direct results

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00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 7: of your interaction between you and that person. That means

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00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 7: no one gets away with anything. No one's going to

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Speaker 7: save you from yourself. And at the end, and this

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Speaker 7: is a Danianism, you ask yourself this question. If I

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00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 7: couldn't come today and God sent you in the life

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Speaker 7: you just reviewed, what difference did you and God make?

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Speaker 7: That is the most important thing that I could tell

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Speaker 7: everyone in this audience listening. If God couldn't come today

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Speaker 7: and God sent you or divinity, what difference did you

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Speaker 7: and Divinity make? Well, knowing that I was a marine

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00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 7: and knowing that veterans are literally neglected, and literally when

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00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 7: I came into this game, they were thousands a day

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00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 7: passing from World War One, World War two, and Korea.

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Speaker 7: And when I looked at it, somebody had to do something.

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00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 7: So I went to work and created the Toilette Brigade,

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Speaker 7: which became one of the largest end of life care

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Speaker 7: volunteer programs for dying veterans in American history, and I

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00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 7: am the co author of the standard end of life

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Speaker 7: care model now used by the Veterans Administration called novet

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Speaker 7: Die Alone. What people have to get a grip on

681
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 7: is the more you hide from the fact that if

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00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 7: you come here and you're breathing, you're leaving. And if

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00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 7: you just took a breath, how valuable is that breath

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00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 7: to your life? And to not educate yourself on the process,

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00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 7: which is inevitable, makes you a mistake and it leaves

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00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 7: people alaned, frightened, abandoned, and scared as they prepare to

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00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 7: make the transition from this world back to where we

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00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 7: came from. Always remember we chose to come here, and

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00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 7: even more importantly, we were chosen to come here. And

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Speaker 7: once you were chosen, you make a decision of whether

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Speaker 7: you want to come or not. We are in control,

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00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 7: no matter what you think about not being in control,

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00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 7: you are in control. And when you have that as

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00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 7: a mindset, like many indears have as a mindset. You

695
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 7: have a tendency to better control and run your life,

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00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 7: to be supportive of people in transition, and to be

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00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 7: there when they need you the most. Like I always

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00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 7: say for a veteran, they were there when we needed them.

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Speaker 7: We must be there for them when they need us.

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Speaker 3: Danian, we need to take a quick break and then

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Speaker 3: we'll be right back for you to continue sharing. You're

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Speaker 3: listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and

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Speaker 3: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. The Internet is

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00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,000
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00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:36,120
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00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 3: to risk. Teach your children the basic safety rules of

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00:40:40,480 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 3: the virtual world. Our children are everything, Do everything for them.

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Speaker 3: Listen anytime, any place.

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Speaker 6: Hey, it's the Wizard of Weird Joshua P.

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00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 7: Warren. Don't forget to check out my show Strange Things

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00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 7: each week.

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Speaker 6: As I bring you the world of the truly amazing

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Speaker 6: and bizarre right here on the iHeartRadio and Coast to

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Speaker 6: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain,

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Speaker 3: and this is our two hundredth episode celebration. We're talking

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Speaker 3: to Danian Brinkley, struck by lightning, has had three near

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Speaker 3: death experiences and you can hear his entire story on

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Speaker 3: episode twenty nine. You were just talking about our veterans.

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Speaker 7: They were there when we needed them. We must be

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00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 7: there for them when they need us. And the most

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Speaker 7: important thing is this transition is an inevitable part of

724
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 7: this life. To hide from it in religion or religions,

725
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 7: or institutions or government programs, to hide from it and

726
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 7: avoid it is a mistake. Why we end up neglecting

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00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 7: the celebration of the life of those who we love,

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00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 7: and we put them in a position to drag on

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Speaker 7: and carry on and stay here so much longer than

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Speaker 7: they were designed to be here.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for that, Danian. We have a lot of

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Speaker 3: people listening to your words right now that are grieving

733
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 3: from the physical deaths of a loved one. What message

734
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Speaker 3: would you have for them today?

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Speaker 7: Of first, I want to tell them that I love

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00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 7: each and every one of them very much. And second,

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00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 7: loss is an inevitable part of this program. And trust me,

738
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 7: you only want to stay here as long as you

739
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 7: are required to get the job done you were sent

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00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 7: to do, and then you want to get the heck

741
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 7: out of here. I don't want to stay any longer,

742
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 7: although the fear of death is what drives me to

743
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 7: keep getting up from the quote unquote dead and to

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00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 7: keep pushing this message because we live in an illusion

745
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 7: and it's a delusional perspective that we're living in, and

746
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 7: we're not truly understanding the divinity of our spiritual selves.

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00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 7: Everyone who is listening and everyone who is not listening

748
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 7: is a great, powerful and mighty spiritual being with dignity, direction,

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00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 7: and purpose. The only thing that can ever go wrong

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00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 7: in your life is you allow something to affect your dignity,

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00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 7: which kews your direction and your purpose. And what the

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00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 7: biggest thing is is how lower of an opinion you

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00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 7: have about yourself, which is what affects your dignity. And

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00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 7: when I can get people to grip that, then the

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00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 7: consciousness elevates sam What happens is there the vibration changes.

756
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 7: Religions and institutions in governments control how we view ourselves. Guilt, sins, suffering,

757
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 7: you're going to heaven, You're going the hell. You're going

758
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 7: to be eternally burned and damned and all that garbage.

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00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 7: None of that stuff ever happens. You are responsible for

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00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 7: this life, and you're responsible for the choices that you

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00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 7: make in this life. And for all of you who

762
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 7: are grieving, then that's natural. You process the separation, but

763
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 7: remember you will see them again and you will be reunited,

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Speaker 7: and you'll laugh about the whole process that you just

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00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 7: went through. You'll laugh about it because the celebration of

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00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 7: this life is the most important thing. That you were

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00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 7: chosen to come here to be an integral part of

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00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 7: a program unfolding. And if you believe like I do,

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00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 7: we're living in a new age. The world I was

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00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 7: born in seventy four years ago has disappeared, and now

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00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 7: I'm watching the unfoldment of a new world and a

772
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 7: new reality being formed. And so is all the rest

773
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 7: of us. Say, so we are the light bearerst We

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00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 7: are those who hold this place of divine spirituality so

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00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 7: that people can see, within the framework of the transition

776
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 7: that we're going through, that there is stability, and in

777
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 7: that stability comes warmth, secure and a knowingness that we

778
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 7: came to do a job. We get that job done,

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00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 7: and we get the heck out of here unless they

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00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 7: call us to come again. So listen, everybody. It's okay

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Speaker 7: to feel the loss of someone you have loved. It's

782
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 7: so so okay to feel the sense of loneliness. But

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Speaker 7: I want to tell people, and this is the truth

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00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 7: that you've ever heard it before, in the spiritual world,

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00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 7: there is no such thing as helplessness and loneliness. It's

786
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 7: the big lie. You come here and you take on

787
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 7: a belief that you can be helpless when you're born

788
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 7: and when you leave, and you can be lonely based

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00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 7: on the opinion you have of yourself are the opinion

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00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 7: you think other people have of you. So helplessness and

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00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 7: loneliness are the controlling mechanisms that are the undercurrent that

792
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 7: controls our lives. So if you've lost someone, Heaven's gained them.

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00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 7: And as you grieve bereavement, it's natural. But remember it's

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00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 7: as short as a life is, and you will be

795
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 7: reconnected with that person. It'll be in a different form everybody.

796
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 7: Because we take on characters, we take on personalities, We

797
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 7: design ourselves a certain way so that we fulfill the

798
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 7: design divine spiritual need that we were chosen to come here,

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00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 7: and I'd like to tell everybody else this. The fact

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00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 7: that you were chosen to come here at this particular

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00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 7: time means there is no one better than you to

802
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 7: do the job that the divine get you to do.

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00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 7: So when you're sitting quietly and you're missing someone, take

804
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 7: a bowl of water. Get a small bowl of water

805
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 7: and put up into salt that's your body. Take a

806
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 7: birthday candle and pick their favorite color. And take that

807
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 7: birthday candle, and remember the flame is red, orange, yellow, blue, green, indigo,

808
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 7: and violet. All the colors of the spectrum is in

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00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 7: that candle flame. And as that birthday candle burns down,

810
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 7: when you're sitting there and that candle flickers and goes out,

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00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 7: you think of the funniest thing that ever happened between

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00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 7: you and the person that you're missing. And you'll be

813
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 7: sitting in the dark laughing. But so will they, because

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00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 7: laughter crosses every boundary, Love crosses every boundary. Sadness, loneliness

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00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 7: and despair only thickens and never moves very far past

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00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 7: the physical mental consciousness. But laughter, joy and celebration and

817
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 7: in the love of life, and you will quietly be

818
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 7: sitting in dark laughing but you will know that they

819
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 7: feel you, they hear you, and they're surrounded with you

820
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 7: with as much love as they're allowed to give back

821
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 7: over here, because messing up the job that you came

822
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 7: to do could easily be done if they appeared. And

823
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 7: also remember to slow your vibration down to come back

824
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 7: into this densa a reality is very difficult. And also

825
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 7: if we knew exactly that connection stayed, then we wouldn't

826
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 7: stay focused on our job. I need everybody to know

827
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 7: that I love them and I have seen who we

828
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 7: are once again. We are great, powerful and mighty spiritual

829
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 7: beings with dignity, direction and purpose. The only thing that

830
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 7: can ever go wrong is you allow something to affect

831
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 7: your dignity, which skews your direction and your purpose. So

832
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 7: when you look in the mirror, who is that person?

833
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 7: When you look in the mirror, what is that person's

834
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 7: aims and goals? And make sure every day those are clarified,

835
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 7: and at the end of each day go back and

836
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 7: see how well you maintained. The panoramic life review is

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00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 7: the greatest gift we are given to know. You're going

838
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 7: to see your entire life pass before you. You're going

839
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 7: to watch it from a second person point of view,

840
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 7: as though you were your own best friend. Now, what

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00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 7: a delightful way to pass from this world to the next,

842
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 7: knowing that your best friend is telling you, oh, God, Daniel,

843
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 7: how stupid could you be? But you know that they

844
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 7: love you and they don't care. And the other thing

845
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 7: is when they pat you on the back, they are saying,

846
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 7: what a great job. You get a chance to see

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00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 7: your life from that point of view, and then you're

848
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 7: going to be every person that you've ever encountered. And

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00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 7: for most people, that experience is the greatest joy. All

850
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 7: the things you think you've done wrong, it's never what

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00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 7: you did, it was why you did it. Intention. The

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00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 7: intent of why you did something becomes the single most

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00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 7: important thing. So everybody, please pay attention to the reason

854
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 7: why you're doing it, not why you're doing it. And

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00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 7: please don't be as big a fool as I was.

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00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 7: Because the first panoramic life review was horrible, the second

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00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 7: one was a lot better, the third one I even

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00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 7: got better, and the fourth one I began to truly

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00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 7: appreciate myself and the efforts I have put forth and

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Speaker 7: the pain I've gone through that it all has meaning

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Speaker 7: and understanding, and it only makes me love each and

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Speaker 7: every one of you who have anything to do with

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Speaker 7: Coast to Coast more than they could possibly imagine.

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Speaker 3: Danian, thank you so much for the difference you've made

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Speaker 3: in my life and many others, and for being here

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Speaker 3: on our two hundredth celebration episode.

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Speaker 7: And Sandra, thank you for persevering putting these shows together

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Speaker 7: and bringing this opportunity for people like me to be

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Speaker 7: able to try to open up hearts. Before you open

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Speaker 7: up your mind. Nobody ever dies. It will never happen.

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Speaker 7: Everybody never, and the process of why you come here

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Speaker 7: for such a short period of time, which eighty years

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Speaker 7: is not a very long time, is designed that way.

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Speaker 7: So you get here, you get the job done, and

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Speaker 7: you get home. So everybody, please open up your heart

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Speaker 7: for a moment. Send Sandra and her mom all the

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Speaker 7: love that you could possibly send. Send deep appreciation, and

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Speaker 7: know that we who are members of the Knight who

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Speaker 7: love Coast to Coast and all the programs because I've

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Speaker 7: been on Coast to Coast since I think nineteen ninety four,

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Speaker 7: and I appreciate everybody, and I thank you for even

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Speaker 7: considering putting me on this show and happy celebration of

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Speaker 7: two hundred episodes.

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Speaker 3: Oh wonderful words. Thank you so much and for all

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Speaker 3: that are listening. You can find out more about Daniel

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Speaker 3: and his work and his books at light Streamers dot com. Wow,

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Speaker 3: so much passion and truth in his words. I don't

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Speaker 3: know about you, my friends, but I'll be listening to

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Speaker 3: these words again and I feel so humbled by the

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Speaker 3: words from George Nori and Tom dan Heiser. I'm sure,

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Speaker 3: just like you, you find something good you want to

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Speaker 3: share it with others. And I have so much appreciation

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Speaker 3: for our friends at iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM

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Speaker 3: for giving me this platform to share with you. Also,

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Speaker 3: my home base is we Don't Die dot com. At

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Speaker 3: the bottom of the page. There you can enter your

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Speaker 3: name and email address and get a free copy of

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Speaker 3: my book We Don't Die, a skeptics discovery of life

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Speaker 3: after death. It says it's just the first few chapters,

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Speaker 3: it's the entire higher book. We also offer a free

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Speaker 3: Sunday gathering inspirational service with medium demonstration included. And I

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Speaker 3: always say the best way to experience the power of

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Speaker 3: your soul is to take a class, and you might

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Speaker 3: want to join our Soul to Soul communication class. In closing,

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Speaker 3: never forget that your loved ones reside and the invisible

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Speaker 3: space around you. They love you, They are part of

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Speaker 3: your lives, and you will see them again. I'm Sandra Champlain,

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Speaker 3: and from the bottom of my heart, thank you for

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Speaker 3: being part of our two hundredth episode celebration of Shades

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Speaker 3: of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast

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Speaker 3: am Pirinormal Podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast

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Speaker 2: Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out

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Speaker 2: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going

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Speaker 2: to iHeartRadio dot com.

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