Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody recording from the Bunker. Folks.
Speaker 1: You know, as I record this, the January sixth seventh
Speaker 1: hearing is unfolding, and so we will not know the
Speaker 1: outcome of that until later in the week, in which
Speaker 1: I will share my thoughts. But as we go into
Speaker 1: this hearing, which is supposed to be defining the connection
Speaker 1: between the Trump administration and two known white supremacist organizations
Speaker 1: in this country, I can't help but wonder why the
Speaker 1: Department of Justice, why the FBI, why the CIA has
Speaker 1: yet to designate white supremacist organizations in this country as
Speaker 1: terrorist organization. Now we know, by virtue of the law,
Speaker 1: and I use that in air quotes, that the only
Speaker 1: designations for terrorism have been from foreign quote unquote invaders
Speaker 1: right or from foreign entities like ISIS, like al Qaeda.
Speaker 1: And since the beginning of the birth of this nation,
Speaker 1: there has always been white domestic terrorism. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, it's what this country was founded on. When
Speaker 1: you think about the nature of indigenous populations, the nature
Speaker 1: of the enslaved African population, and the free Africans who
Speaker 1: would become enslaved. Their idea of society has always been communal.
Speaker 1: It has always been about community and uplifting community and connection.
Speaker 1: And so when you know, the Pilgrims quote unquote found
Speaker 1: themselves on the shores of this new land that they
Speaker 1: felt like they discovered because they didn't know anything about it,
Speaker 1: as opposed to how would one discover something where people
Speaker 1: were already living. They were met with open arms, they
Speaker 1: were met with curiosity. And I realized that that is
Speaker 1: the defining thing, the defining difference between Republicans and Democrats.
Speaker 1: And my friend Kurt Bardella will be joining the show
Speaker 1: later to talk about what he feels like is just
Speaker 1: a fundamentally different DNA makeup political DNA makeup, as he says,
Speaker 1: between Republicans and Democrats. And I will go and provide
Speaker 1: what my thoughts are, and what I've been mulling around
Speaker 1: for a while is that there is a fundamental disconnect, right,
Speaker 1: There is a fundamental difference, and that is of a
Speaker 1: ideological thinking that assumes that all people have the right
Speaker 1: to liberty and justice and equity and dignity and respect,
Speaker 1: and that there is a driving sense of curiosity, not judgment,
Speaker 1: but curiosity about how we expand in our thinking to
Speaker 1: embrace those that come outside of what has been spoon
Speaker 1: fed to us as traditional or as quote unquote norms.
Speaker 1: And I think that the problem with Republicans and their
Speaker 1: current iteration of their cultish behavior is the fact that
Speaker 1: they don't have curiosity. What they have is judgment. What
Speaker 1: they have is fear. What they have is anxiety. And
Speaker 1: for them, that results in it of itself, into violence,
Speaker 1: into oppression. And I realize that as you look throughout
Speaker 1: history as your guide, and you see that there are
Speaker 1: these times of great inflection, it is because the people
Speaker 1: that have been marginalized recognize that they have power, recognize
Speaker 1: that they no longer want to conform to or follow
Speaker 1: in the steps that do not serve them. That they
Speaker 1: believe that they have power outside of what has been
Speaker 1: granted or what has been withheld. And for people who
Speaker 1: believe that their way is the only way, you exist
Speaker 1: as a threat to that ideal, a threat to they're understanding,
Speaker 1: a threat to what they believe to be normal. And
Speaker 1: what do people do with threats, Well, they try and
Speaker 1: put them down. And that is what we are seeing
Speaker 1: right now, and what pisses me off. And in the
Speaker 1: conversation that I have with Kurt, what pisses me off
Speaker 1: is that democrats within the democratic establishment, and I'm talking
Speaker 1: about those that cut their teeth in politics in the
Speaker 1: twentieth century, do not fundamentally understand that this is an
Speaker 1: existential threat to our society, to our way of life.
Speaker 1: Is the ignorance right or the feeling that because you
Speaker 1: have right and facts on your side that eventually owe
Speaker 1: the people will come to their senses. And Kurt and
Speaker 1: I will talk about the fact that he brought up,
Speaker 1: you know, the issue that this administration was caught off
Speaker 1: guard with how rabid the right wing had become. And
Speaker 1: my pushback to that is how how could you be
Speaker 1: caught off guard? Because Republicans have been shown knew who
Speaker 1: the fuck they are for the last twelve years. At
Speaker 1: the beginning of the Obama administration, when the birth of
Speaker 1: the Tea Party was happening, we saw exactly what direction
Speaker 1: that this party was going to. But it made us
Speaker 1: feel good to say that that was the fringe. And
Speaker 1: because we didn't pay attention to it, because we didn't
Speaker 1: decide to stomp it out in its infancy, it has
Speaker 1: grown into a monster that can no longer be controlled,
Speaker 1: not by those who have been uplifted by it, like
Speaker 1: the Republican establishment, and not by those that have choose
Speaker 1: to ignore it, like the democratic establishment. And so here
Speaker 1: the fuck we are. And the thing with me is
Speaker 1: that if you continue to ignore this threat, if you
Speaker 1: do not name this threat, then how do you devise
Speaker 1: a plan to take it down? You don't, and you
Speaker 1: simply continue to spin your wheels doing things the way
Speaker 1: that you have always done and assume that something is
Speaker 1: going to change. And friends, that is actually the definition
Speaker 1: of insanity. And frankly, I do feel fucking crazy, as
Speaker 1: I know many of you do, because you tell me
Speaker 1: on a regular basis, why is he doing more? Why
Speaker 1: isn't Biden doing more? Why isn't this administration fighting? And
Speaker 1: it's because they are so stuck in their twentieth century
Speaker 1: ways and so stuck in the way that they think that,
Speaker 1: you know, if we just assume this normal political stance,
Speaker 1: then everything will fall back into place. Well it's fucking not.
Speaker 1: It's been eighteen months since the insurrection and we are
Speaker 1: still holding hearings and trying to get our arms around
Speaker 1: all the ways in which the Trump administration enabled by
Speaker 1: the Republican Party, is seeking to overthrow our democracy and
Speaker 1: using white domestic terrorist organizations to do so. Like, this
Speaker 1: isn't something that is just cocktail party fodder inside the Beltway.
Speaker 1: This is a fucking real existential threat to our way
Speaker 1: of existing. And they are showing you in places like
Speaker 1: Florida and Texas and Alabama and Mississippi all the ways
Speaker 1: in which they are going to exercise their will, their
Speaker 1: Christian fundamentalist, white supremist will on this. Once they are
Speaker 1: able to put the gavels back in their hands, they
Speaker 1: are not going to bang them on a desk. They
Speaker 1: are going to pound into marginalized and outsized communities that
Speaker 1: they feel like are a threat to their way of life.
Speaker 1: And so if we have a democratic establishment that is
Speaker 1: not has the inability or frankly lack of desire to
Speaker 1: wrap their minds around that truth, how the fuck do
Speaker 1: we plan on fighting? You know? So, Kurt and I
Speaker 1: will have a series of conversations about, you know the
Speaker 1: fact that it is not too late right, It is
Speaker 1: never too late right to turn the beat around to
Speaker 1: fucking like get in line to wake up. That is
Speaker 1: the beauty of being gifted with a new day is
Speaker 1: that in each and every new day, you have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to act different than the day before. But this
Speaker 1: administration seems to think that everything is going just fucking
Speaker 1: fine because you added some jobs and are able to
Speaker 1: somehow stop the bleeding as it pertains to gas prices.
Speaker 1: That so people are going to turn around and say, oh,
Speaker 1: that's the party I want to be with. Do you
Speaker 1: know how many people are waking up in this country
Speaker 1: from a cold sweat just in fear, riddled with depression
Speaker 1: and anxiety and tiredness and distractedness and all of those things.
Speaker 1: And this administration is not offering a reprieve. They're not
Speaker 1: offering an oasis. And so for those of us who
Speaker 1: choose to bring attention to what can be done better,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we're the ones that need to
Speaker 1: be crucified. And I find that to be absolute bullshit.
Speaker 1: You don't win by pretending that you have the best
Speaker 1: strategy when clearly it's not fucking working. And that's the
Speaker 1: only thing that I want to message out to people.
Speaker 1: I am never telling people not to vote. What I
Speaker 1: am saying is that voting alone in this climate isn't
Speaker 1: going to be the end all be all that we
Speaker 1: thought that it was going to be. We thought that
Speaker 1: when we voted in twenty twenty and we changed administrations,
Speaker 1: that we were going to be on an upswing. But
Speaker 1: apparently we did not understand how far down the Trump
Speaker 1: administration and Republicans had pulled us into the fucking muck.
Speaker 1: So now that we are here, and I don't even
Speaker 1: think that we have gotten to the bottom of the bottom.
Speaker 1: So the upswing that we are all hoping and praying for,
Speaker 1: I think is fucking decades into the future. I hate
Speaker 1: to break it to you, right, we actually may never
Speaker 1: see an upswing in our lifetime, given the mechanics of
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court and the lack of will to do
Speaker 1: any type of thinking even threatening the expansion thereof. So
Speaker 1: when we wrap our minds around this, we have to
Speaker 1: understand that it is going to be the young people,
Speaker 1: those that are under the age of thirty five, those
Speaker 1: that are under the age of thirty, those that are
Speaker 1: Generation Z, that are going to be the ones to
Speaker 1: make a shift, right, But we need to listen to
Speaker 1: them in order for that to happen, And right now,
Speaker 1: the Democratic establishment isn't listening to its stars. They aren't listen,
Speaker 1: listening to and uplifting right those people that are more
Speaker 1: in touch with and tapped into how people communicate and
Speaker 1: how people get excited right about getting out there and
Speaker 1: doing the right thing. And sometimes fear friends is a motivator.
Speaker 1: We know that because that's the only thing that the
Speaker 1: right ever uses. So when are we going to start
Speaker 1: using all of the tools that we have in our toolbox,
Speaker 1: expressly the stars that we have, in order to get
Speaker 1: our message out? So coming up next, my conversation with
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Speaker 1: So whenever I have the opportunity to be joined by
Speaker 1: our friend Kurt Bardella, who is a messenger spokesperson for
Speaker 1: the DNC the d Triple C. He is also a
Speaker 1: writer for a myriad of outlets including The LA Times
Speaker 1: in USA Today and if you're a country music fan,
Speaker 1: he is also prevalent in that world as well, a
Speaker 1: man of many talents, Kurt Bardella, there are new poll
Speaker 1: numbers that are out that put Biden's approval rating somewhere
Speaker 1: between a toilet and a sewer. It is roughly at
Speaker 1: around thirty three percent, which, if I'm not mistaken, is
Speaker 1: lower than Donald Trump's approval rating ever was, which is shocking.
Speaker 1: But I first want to get your reaction to these
Speaker 1: latest numbers, the fact that ninety four percent of young people,
Speaker 1: people under the age of thirty five, do not want
Speaker 1: Joe Biden to run in twenty twenty four. He is
Speaker 1: not their candidate. That when we are looking at satisfaction
Speaker 1: and whether or not this country is on the right track,
Speaker 1: that number two is in the toilet. And we have
Speaker 1: roughly one hundred and nineteen or eighteen days until midterm elections.
Speaker 1: So I want to first get your opinion. And I say,
Speaker 1: oftentimes on woke a YEF, I am not beholden to polls, right,
Speaker 1: I really am not. Because the Poles told me that
Speaker 1: I should have had a different president in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: The Poles told me that we should have a sixty
Speaker 1: three court in our favor right now, and none of
Speaker 1: that came to pass. And so I take things with
Speaker 1: a grain of salt, but I do recognize that they
Speaker 1: are warning signs. So how did that New New York
Speaker 1: Times CNNA pole land with you? Well, you know, the
Speaker 1: first thing, the number that I would be most interested in,
Speaker 1: and I noticed it was a number that was not asked,
Speaker 1: do you think Joe Biden should run if Donald Trump's
Speaker 1: Republican nominee that would be an interesting question to know.
Speaker 1: You know, as we have seen, Donald Trump lost to
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Joe Biden got the most votes in the
Speaker 1: history of any presidential candidate ever, and I don't think
Speaker 1: we can discount that. I'll also point out that in
Speaker 1: every hypothetical matchup with Donald Trump and Joe Biden, and
Speaker 1: even Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, Donald Trumble loses. You know,
Speaker 1: So polls it's such an interesting thing. You have to
Speaker 1: think about the person that gets this phone call from
Speaker 1: a polster, you know, and you're asked a question that
Speaker 1: up until that exact second, you probably were not thinking
Speaker 1: about one way or the other. There's something almost unnatural
Speaker 1: about how polling works, and I think that explains why
Speaker 1: so often, frankly, they've been off the mark and if
Speaker 1: misled him, misguided all of us at various pointed time.
Speaker 1: It's very clear the president President Biden has challenges. It's
Speaker 1: very clear he inherited the most challenging environment, I would
Speaker 1: argue in the history of our country, a pandemic and
Speaker 1: an economic crisis at the same time, not to mention
Speaker 1: cleaning up the message that Donald truploff behind across the
Speaker 1: entire form policy spectrum. It has not been an easy path,
Speaker 1: and it seems like every time he gains a little
Speaker 1: bit around, something else happens, and it's like one step forward,
Speaker 1: a few steps back, and that that's really frustrating. The
Speaker 1: American people are frustrated, you know. I think my takeaway
Speaker 1: with Poles, as always, I don't care what the exact
Speaker 1: number is. It's just an indication of a trend of
Speaker 1: where they are emotionally at any point in time. American
Speaker 1: people are frustrated, They're tired, they're exhausted. So much of
Speaker 1: that is because of the four years of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: I would make that case, you know, and it's likely
Speaker 1: not getting any better as things have gotten even more
Speaker 1: divisive in this country because the Republican Party has lurched
Speaker 1: towards the extreme, embraced violent white nationalism, and is imposing
Speaker 1: an extreme minority of view on the rest of us.
Speaker 1: And I think those of us who voted for Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: who voted for a different path, they're going, how the
Speaker 1: hell us is happening right now? While we in theory
Speaker 1: have the reins of power, yet somehow we're losing things.
Speaker 1: Things are being taken away from us left and right.
Speaker 1: It's it's maddening, it's frustrating. But I think for all
Speaker 1: those people who are under thirty particularly, and there's an
Speaker 1: irony that those same people who say Joe Biden may
Speaker 1: be too old urn for president, we're also the heart
Speaker 1: and sole of the Bernie Sanders movement. Who's not a
Speaker 1: young spring chicken. I might point out just say that
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of the it doesn't quite add
Speaker 1: up to me sometimes. Uh, you know, I tell everybody
Speaker 1: the most single, most important polls the one that's conducted
Speaker 1: on election and for people under thirty, particularly who do
Speaker 1: not show up in elections, who still underperform and elect.
Speaker 1: If you want to change the way things are doing,
Speaker 1: you want to change our politics, change politicians, you got
Speaker 1: to show up and vote. That's barrier number one because
Speaker 1: most politicians when they hear under thirty, they roll their
Speaker 1: rise because they go off. They don't vote anyway. So
Speaker 1: what do they do they what do they matter? You know,
Speaker 1: I think you bring up several good points and and
Speaker 1: you've been doing. Let me just commend you as I
Speaker 1: do in private in public again, such a great job
Speaker 1: on using utilizing all of your platforms, to you know,
Speaker 1: to pound this this this message in. I want to
Speaker 1: say that this administration did inherit multiple compound did crises.
Speaker 1: My problem, however, is the fact that they don't continue
Speaker 1: to talk about that fact that they inherited a series
Speaker 1: of compounded crises that have only gotten worse over the
Speaker 1: last year and a half. The last eighteen months, right,
Speaker 1: I date things from the day of the insurrection until now,
Speaker 1: so we're looking at the last eighteen months of how
Speaker 1: quickly things have devolved. But my problem, Kurt, is the
Speaker 1: fact that this administration does not connect the dots to
Speaker 1: the American people to remind like you shouldn't have to
Speaker 1: be reminded. It should just continually be pounded into your
Speaker 1: psyche that you are here in this space trying to
Speaker 1: put gas in your car and food on your table
Speaker 1: and medicine in your cabinets because of the decisions that
Speaker 1: were made in the Trump administration and because of the
Speaker 1: Republican Party that continues to vote against your best interests.
Speaker 1: So the question that I ask is, you know, as
Speaker 1: a person who is a messenger, why do they move
Speaker 1: away from a very clear message that is about defining
Speaker 1: for the American people. Why you were in this situation.
Speaker 1: You know, I think the trap that the Biden White
Speaker 1: House kind of stepped into was the desire to want
Speaker 1: to turn to page on COVID because people were so frustrated.
Speaker 1: They were they were over isolation, they were over uh
Speaker 1: you know, some of them remote working, they were overwearing
Speaker 1: masks and vaccinations and all that, and some people, a large,
Speaker 1: alarmingly large number of them didn't want to do anything
Speaker 1: to protect anybody's health in America. I can't forget those
Speaker 1: those great people. I think that they wanted to just
Speaker 1: turn to page and you know, I equoted to that
Speaker 1: George W. Bush Mission accomplished moment, you know, back in
Speaker 1: the two thousand and I think that going into it,
Speaker 1: they thought the administration that this would be that that
Speaker 1: they would be able to get vaccines at shots and arms,
Speaker 1: and then we would be able to get back to
Speaker 1: quote unquote normal uh and people would be happy and
Speaker 1: excited about that. And of course that that's not really
Speaker 1: how it played out, uh, not even remotely. And and
Speaker 1: I think that they underestimated the real venom of the
Speaker 1: right uh and how they weaponized things like vaccines, how
Speaker 1: they weaponized uh, you know this ridiculous notion that it's
Speaker 1: somehow government intrusiveness to promote a vaccine that will save lives. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know we heard at the time, you know, my choice,
Speaker 1: my body. The irony there of course, as things would
Speaker 1: play out later on, but they turned it into this
Speaker 1: whole uh you know, attack on schools and teachers. You know,
Speaker 1: that is where the myth of critical race theory was born.
Speaker 1: Was born from that period of time. Uh. And I
Speaker 1: think that the the administration wasn't prepared for that type
Speaker 1: of just dishonesty. UM. I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: thought going into it that, especially after January sixth. Remember
Speaker 1: this was a point in time where even Republicans were saying, oh,
Speaker 1: that went too far, this is terrible, we need to
Speaker 1: move like that was not good. In the immediate aftermath
Speaker 1: of January six Kevin McCarthy was out there saying this
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. I think that they thought, well, Donald Trump
Speaker 1: has now been disposed of, he's lost. We just went
Speaker 1: through this January sixth episode. Republicans are wanting to go
Speaker 1: back to normal. I think they really, in their heart
Speaker 1: believe that on some level, and that's why they were
Speaker 1: so I think blindsided when it turned out the Republican
Speaker 1: Party they didn't need Donald Trump anywhere because they had
Speaker 1: fully embraced and embodied the very worst elements of what
Speaker 1: he brought to the political conversation, and there was no
Speaker 1: going back for them, and they weren't going to try
Speaker 1: to go back to quote unquote normal. This was their
Speaker 1: identity going forward and had really nothing to do with
Speaker 1: Donald Trump anymore. But let me push you on this part,
Speaker 1: because you know, we say that the administration was caught
Speaker 1: off guard, and my pushback is, how because Joe Biden
Speaker 1: spent eight years in the Obama administration as Vice President
Speaker 1: of the United States, when that very same party was
Speaker 1: at the beginning stages of their of their cultish behavior,
Speaker 1: when they said that that president was not a citizen
Speaker 1: of these United States, when they lied about him being
Speaker 1: a Muslim, when you had Mitch McConnell come to the
Speaker 1: forefront and say we're going to make him a single
Speaker 1: term president. You also had Mitch McConnell stealing the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court seat, which has us in the position that we're in.
Speaker 1: So how is it that Joe Biden sat literally shoulder
Speaker 1: to shoulder with Barack Obama as this Republican Party began
Speaker 1: its initial morphing into the radical right, white domestic terrorist
Speaker 1: cult that it has become, and say to himself, Oh,
Speaker 1: but I can do better, And I asked this. I
Speaker 1: say this because to say that folks are caught off guard,
Speaker 1: it's the same way to say, oh, my god, they
Speaker 1: were caught off guard that Rob Wade was turned back.
Speaker 1: Really because Republicans have been organizing in playing site for
Speaker 1: fifty years saying that this was their holy grail. So
Speaker 1: to say that they are caught off guard is for
Speaker 1: me to alert me to the fact that you haven't
Speaker 1: been paying attention. And I mean you, as in the
Speaker 1: administration haven't been paying attention, even if ignore the last
Speaker 1: fifty years and say, Alito and the League draft opinion
Speaker 1: gave you a two month head start to create a strategy,
Speaker 1: to figure out whether or not you could issue a
Speaker 1: public emergency health emergency based around abortion, and to do
Speaker 1: all of these things. So what is it that you think, honestly,
Speaker 1: had this administration caught off guard? Because as far as
Speaker 1: I can see, they were all conscious during the last
Speaker 1: eight to twelve years. Now, I think to myself, I
Speaker 1: go back to the Obama administration, years when I was
Speaker 1: on the other side of this Republican and I would
Speaker 1: make the case that often than that we got the
Speaker 1: better of the Obama administration in our battles and fights.
Speaker 1: And I remember thinking to myself back then, It's like,
Speaker 1: how are we winning? I would I would be in
Speaker 1: meetings with my fellow Republican colleagues and I'm like, how
Speaker 1: is it that work? We shouldn't be winning these fights
Speaker 1: right now. And now that I'm on the Democrat side
Speaker 1: and I get to interface a lot with Democrat advisors
Speaker 1: and staff and members, I swear to God, Danielle, there
Speaker 1: is just a DNA difference I think from a political
Speaker 1: operative standpoint. Yeah, how they view the world. Uh, you know, Democrats,
Speaker 1: God bless them and God love And I'm proud to
Speaker 1: be one of them. Let me say that very clearly.
Speaker 1: I'm proud to be a Democrat and remember this party.
Speaker 1: But they are they are such true believers that it's
Speaker 1: almost as if there the self righteousness procludes them from
Speaker 1: seeing the forest producers. They genuinely believe they are right
Speaker 1: and that should win the day they believe that, you know, Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: they can't understand why they're not winning when well, but
Speaker 1: we're right, and we tell everybody we're right all the time.
Speaker 1: And as it turns out, people don't really like that
Speaker 1: about Democrats. Frankly. Uh, it's a major turn off. I mean,
Speaker 1: any conversation now with anybody, if you start it with listen,
Speaker 1: I'm right, you're wrong. Let me tell you why, see
Speaker 1: the lights and all will be good. People are going
Speaker 1: to smack you in the face. What are you talking about? Um?
Speaker 1: Republicans don't really operate that way. It's just a very
Speaker 1: very different almost again, at a molecular DNA level. And
Speaker 1: I think that is the real blind spot for Democrats
Speaker 1: at times tactically and in these fights that we have. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they I can't tell you how many times
Speaker 1: they know. I've been in meetings were like, but but
Speaker 1: they're lying, as if that's like a revelation. It's like,
Speaker 1: of course they're lying. Of course the Republicans are lying.
Speaker 1: That's what they do. Their entire strategy is built on
Speaker 1: lying to the American people. How do you not get that?
Speaker 1: By now? I say the same thing you do. But
Speaker 1: every time it's like Charlie Brown, Lucy and the Football
Speaker 1: that they cannot believe that Republicans lying that they get
Speaker 1: away with it, and it frustrates them to know in
Speaker 1: And I mean that's why I think it's important for
Speaker 1: Democrats as a party. And I don't mean this in
Speaker 1: a self and ranizing way, but to listen to different voices,
Speaker 1: Listen to people like me who came from a very
Speaker 1: different part of the political conversation. Listen to people like
Speaker 1: our dear friend Ellie Missed All who I think if
Speaker 1: I were the President of States, I hire Elier right
Speaker 1: now and just let him go to work. You know,
Speaker 1: people like Jason Johnson and tiffty Cross and you and
Speaker 1: me and Wajahad. I've noticed that our conversations that we
Speaker 1: have amongst themselves, it's so very, very different than when
Speaker 1: I get from the operational side of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: And I think that there's that kind of group think
Speaker 1: DC belt Way insider loop that they just kind of
Speaker 1: all have had for so long. You look at anybody
Speaker 1: who serves right now in this administration, they've been with
Speaker 1: Biden forever. Yeah, And I think, and to your point,
Speaker 1: I genuinely believe that that is part of the problem.
Speaker 1: But what I'm also seeing and what I was faced
Speaker 1: with last week is you know, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I'm the one to be at fault for pointing out
Speaker 1: all of the things that are not going in our direction, right, like,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Now it's not the actual inaction
Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party. Apparently it is tweeting about the
Speaker 1: inaction of the Democratic Party that is going to upend
Speaker 1: our midterm elections and the entirety of the Biden administration,
Speaker 1: which I think is absolute bullshit. And so you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, how is it that we are able to critique?
Speaker 1: Not in the way that I'm saying. I'm saying, there
Speaker 1: is still fucking time. But there is only time if
Speaker 1: you decide to wake up today and recognize that, yeah,
Speaker 1: just saying that you own the truth or that facts
Speaker 1: are on your side is not going to be the
Speaker 1: winning thing. And I think to go back to the polls, frankly,
Speaker 1: is that, Yeah, the matchup is with Trump, but I
Speaker 1: guarantee you that like Trump ain't going to be the nominee.
Speaker 1: It is going to be round Santis and a eighty
Speaker 1: year old Joe Biden up against a fifty or forty
Speaker 1: something year old Ron de Santis who is smarter than
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and a lot more cunning than Donald Trump
Speaker 1: and is showing the Republican Party, based on the things
Speaker 1: that he is doing in the state of Florida, what
Speaker 1: he can do nationally. I don't think that Joe Biden
Speaker 1: stands a chance, not this configuration of the Biden administration,
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, how do how do we reconcile
Speaker 1: that reality and how do they step into that reality? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I'll tell you. I think some of
Speaker 1: the things that make me feel optimistic about the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party going forward outside of this election cycle, but into
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. So I look at people that have
Speaker 1: emerged like the governor Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer, the state Senator
Speaker 1: in Michigan, Mallor McMorrow, who I think it's incredibly impressive.
Speaker 1: I look at even people like Pete Bodha Chiche and
Speaker 1: what he did this past week on Fox News Sunday,
Speaker 1: you know, or one of the Fox shows and dismantling
Speaker 1: them as he does very effectively. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: we got we got some talent in our bench. And
Speaker 1: I do think in a much bigger picture, there is
Speaker 1: a generational shift that does need to happen in the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party I think myself. I came here in two
Speaker 1: thousand and six to Capitol Hill, and at that time,
Speaker 1: the top three leaders in the House representative sort of
Speaker 1: Democrat party were in Nancy Pelosi, Stanny Lawyer, and Jim Clever.
Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty two and we are the exact same people.
Speaker 1: And this, to be very this isn't a knock on
Speaker 1: any one of them individually or what their accomplishments with
Speaker 1: their with their entire career of public service, which has
Speaker 1: been extraordinary, has meant to our country, to our party
Speaker 1: up and down. Everyone will tell you an Explosi is
Speaker 1: the most effective Democratic leader in Congress we've ever had.
Speaker 1: Jim Clyburn has obviously been an incredibly meaningful uh and
Speaker 1: historical figure. But who have they been? But who have
Speaker 1: they brought into your pot point under their wings? Right
Speaker 1: to grow the next generation, the next generations of Democratic
Speaker 1: leaders up like this is this is the same thing
Speaker 1: that happened in the Obama years, right. I always say
Speaker 1: the greatest endorsement of a leader's legacy is who comes
Speaker 1: after him. And if that leader did such a good
Speaker 1: job that you know that they also groom the next
Speaker 1: generation to carry For that I guess see, Democrats have
Speaker 1: not been good at that. For my observation over the years.
Speaker 1: Say what you want about this Republican Party, let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. When the battles with the Obada administration,
Speaker 1: we're going on the people who are at the forefront
Speaker 1: of that fight. It was Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows, like Pompeo,
Speaker 1: These people who have become ten years later some of
Speaker 1: the most visible, influential, powerful figures, and those were the
Speaker 1: young guys back then. You know this is ten twelve
Speaker 1: years ago. Conversely, on our side, I do see people
Speaker 1: that have a lot of town I see people like
Speaker 1: Rubin Gayego. I see people like Eric Swallow, like Ted
Speaker 1: Lu like Castro in Texas and its Towad brother as well.
Speaker 1: I see people like AOC and Congresswomen's leave. There are
Speaker 1: an incredible amount of people under the age of forty, yeah,
Speaker 1: who are who are dynamic. They understand the modern world.
Speaker 1: They understand communications, they understand messaging, they understand follow they
Speaker 1: understand the enemy that we are up against a day
Speaker 1: um and so that gives me, that gives me some
Speaker 1: semblance of hope that going forward we'll have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to get some new blood. And I do think that
Speaker 1: if Republicans win in twenty twenty two, uh, we're going
Speaker 1: to need to have a massive, widespread change in our
Speaker 1: entire party apparatus. I think if we are able to
Speaker 1: hold on and and and defy expectations and defy history
Speaker 1: and preserve our majority, and I do think we have
Speaker 1: a really good shot in the Senate. Let me be
Speaker 1: very clear, I think that we're gonna, We're gonna we
Speaker 1: could even grow the Senate. Frankly, when I look at
Speaker 1: the lunatics like herschel Walker and Memo, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: greetings that are running right now like they're wow. But
Speaker 1: I think in the House, uh, you know, we're going
Speaker 1: to need to change some things up. Um. Last question
Speaker 1: for you, Kurt is, do you think that while I
Speaker 1: agree with you, I wholeheartedly agree with you. Do you
Speaker 1: think that democratic establishment is ready to relinquish their power
Speaker 1: to the younger set that is ready for the twenty
Speaker 1: first century battle as opposed to the twentieth century one
Speaker 1: that they all cut their teeth in. You know, whether
Speaker 1: they're ready or not, they're going to have to live
Speaker 1: with it because because because our generation we're coming and
Speaker 1: we are no longer satisfied with just sitting on the
Speaker 1: stylelines or being told to wait our turn. We're done
Speaker 1: with that. I really think that there's going to be
Speaker 1: a massive change that's going to happen within the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be people like all the folks
Speaker 1: that we've talked about here that's going to lead that,
Speaker 1: and we're just not going to be quiet anymore. I
Speaker 1: think that the definition of insanity is doing the same
Speaker 1: thing over and over again to expect different results. And
Speaker 1: I think that also applies to leadership. If we keep
Speaker 1: putting the same people in leadership positions, if we keep
Speaker 1: starting the same quarterback over and over and over again,
Speaker 1: and we still don't win a champ, if it's time
Speaker 1: to make a change, absolutely, Kurt Bardella. Always love when
Speaker 1: I have the opportunity to chat with you, my friend,
Speaker 1: and appreciate again all of the work that you continue
Speaker 1: to do to ring the alarm or as I like
Speaker 1: to say, get people as woke as fuck as possible.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Thanks Daniel. That is it for me today,
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