1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody recording from the Bunker. Folks. 3 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: You know, as I record this, the January sixth seventh 4 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: hearing is unfolding, and so we will not know the 5 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: outcome of that until later in the week, in which 6 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: I will share my thoughts. But as we go into 7 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: this hearing, which is supposed to be defining the connection 8 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: between the Trump administration and two known white supremacist organizations 9 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: in this country, I can't help but wonder why the 10 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: Department of Justice, why the FBI, why the CIA has 11 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: yet to designate white supremacist organizations in this country as 12 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: terrorist organization. Now we know, by virtue of the law, 13 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: and I use that in air quotes, that the only 14 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: designations for terrorism have been from foreign quote unquote invaders 15 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: right or from foreign entities like ISIS, like al Qaeda. 16 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: And since the beginning of the birth of this nation, 17 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: there has always been white domestic terrorism. As a matter 18 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: of fact, it's what this country was founded on. When 19 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: you think about the nature of indigenous populations, the nature 20 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: of the enslaved African population, and the free Africans who 21 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: would become enslaved. Their idea of society has always been communal. 22 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: It has always been about community and uplifting community and connection. 23 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: And so when you know, the Pilgrims quote unquote found 24 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: themselves on the shores of this new land that they 25 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: felt like they discovered because they didn't know anything about it, 26 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: as opposed to how would one discover something where people 27 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: were already living. They were met with open arms, they 28 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: were met with curiosity. And I realized that that is 29 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: the defining thing, the defining difference between Republicans and Democrats. 30 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: And my friend Kurt Bardella will be joining the show 31 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: later to talk about what he feels like is just 32 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: a fundamentally different DNA makeup political DNA makeup, as he says, 33 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: between Republicans and Democrats. And I will go and provide 34 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: what my thoughts are, and what I've been mulling around 35 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: for a while is that there is a fundamental disconnect, right, 36 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: There is a fundamental difference, and that is of a 37 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: ideological thinking that assumes that all people have the right 38 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: to liberty and justice and equity and dignity and respect, 39 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: and that there is a driving sense of curiosity, not judgment, 40 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: but curiosity about how we expand in our thinking to 41 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: embrace those that come outside of what has been spoon 42 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: fed to us as traditional or as quote unquote norms. 43 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: And I think that the problem with Republicans and their 44 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: current iteration of their cultish behavior is the fact that 45 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: they don't have curiosity. What they have is judgment. What 46 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: they have is fear. What they have is anxiety. And 47 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: for them, that results in it of itself, into violence, 48 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: into oppression. And I realize that as you look throughout 49 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: history as your guide, and you see that there are 50 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: these times of great inflection, it is because the people 51 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: that have been marginalized recognize that they have power, recognize 52 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: that they no longer want to conform to or follow 53 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: in the steps that do not serve them. That they 54 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: believe that they have power outside of what has been 55 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: granted or what has been withheld. And for people who 56 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: believe that their way is the only way, you exist 57 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: as a threat to that ideal, a threat to they're understanding, 58 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: a threat to what they believe to be normal. And 59 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: what do people do with threats, Well, they try and 60 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: put them down. And that is what we are seeing 61 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: right now, and what pisses me off. And in the 62 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: conversation that I have with Kurt, what pisses me off 63 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: is that democrats within the democratic establishment, and I'm talking 64 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: about those that cut their teeth in politics in the 65 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: twentieth century, do not fundamentally understand that this is an 66 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: existential threat to our society, to our way of life. 67 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: Is the ignorance right or the feeling that because you 68 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: have right and facts on your side that eventually owe 69 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: the people will come to their senses. And Kurt and 70 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: I will talk about the fact that he brought up, 71 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, the issue that this administration was caught off 72 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: guard with how rabid the right wing had become. And 73 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: my pushback to that is how how could you be 74 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: caught off guard? Because Republicans have been shown knew who 75 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: the fuck they are for the last twelve years. At 76 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: the beginning of the Obama administration, when the birth of 77 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: the Tea Party was happening, we saw exactly what direction 78 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: that this party was going to. But it made us 79 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: feel good to say that that was the fringe. And 80 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: because we didn't pay attention to it, because we didn't 81 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: decide to stomp it out in its infancy, it has 82 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: grown into a monster that can no longer be controlled, 83 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: not by those who have been uplifted by it, like 84 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: the Republican establishment, and not by those that have choose 85 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: to ignore it, like the democratic establishment. And so here 86 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: the fuck we are. And the thing with me is 87 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: that if you continue to ignore this threat, if you 88 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 1: do not name this threat, then how do you devise 89 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: a plan to take it down? You don't, and you 90 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: simply continue to spin your wheels doing things the way 91 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: that you have always done and assume that something is 92 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: going to change. And friends, that is actually the definition 93 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: of insanity. And frankly, I do feel fucking crazy, as 94 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: I know many of you do, because you tell me 95 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: on a regular basis, why is he doing more? Why 96 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: isn't Biden doing more? Why isn't this administration fighting? And 97 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: it's because they are so stuck in their twentieth century 98 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: ways and so stuck in the way that they think that, 99 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, if we just assume this normal political stance, 100 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: then everything will fall back into place. Well it's fucking not. 101 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: It's been eighteen months since the insurrection and we are 102 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: still holding hearings and trying to get our arms around 103 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: all the ways in which the Trump administration enabled by 104 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: the Republican Party, is seeking to overthrow our democracy and 105 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: using white domestic terrorist organizations to do so. Like, this 106 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: isn't something that is just cocktail party fodder inside the Beltway. 107 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: This is a fucking real existential threat to our way 108 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: of existing. And they are showing you in places like 109 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: Florida and Texas and Alabama and Mississippi all the ways 110 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: in which they are going to exercise their will, their 111 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: Christian fundamentalist, white supremist will on this. Once they are 112 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: able to put the gavels back in their hands, they 113 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: are not going to bang them on a desk. They 114 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: are going to pound into marginalized and outsized communities that 115 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: they feel like are a threat to their way of life. 116 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: And so if we have a democratic establishment that is 117 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: not has the inability or frankly lack of desire to 118 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: wrap their minds around that truth, how the fuck do 119 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: we plan on fighting? You know? So, Kurt and I 120 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: will have a series of conversations about, you know the 121 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: fact that it is not too late right, It is 122 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: never too late right to turn the beat around to 123 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: fucking like get in line to wake up. That is 124 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: the beauty of being gifted with a new day is 125 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: that in each and every new day, you have an 126 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: opportunity to act different than the day before. But this 127 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: administration seems to think that everything is going just fucking 128 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: fine because you added some jobs and are able to 129 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: somehow stop the bleeding as it pertains to gas prices. 130 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: That so people are going to turn around and say, oh, 131 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: that's the party I want to be with. Do you 132 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: know how many people are waking up in this country 133 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: from a cold sweat just in fear, riddled with depression 134 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: and anxiety and tiredness and distractedness and all of those things. 135 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: And this administration is not offering a reprieve. They're not 136 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: offering an oasis. And so for those of us who 137 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: choose to bring attention to what can be done better, 138 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we're the ones that need to 139 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: be crucified. And I find that to be absolute bullshit. 140 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: You don't win by pretending that you have the best 141 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: strategy when clearly it's not fucking working. And that's the 142 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: only thing that I want to message out to people. 143 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: I am never telling people not to vote. What I 144 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: am saying is that voting alone in this climate isn't 145 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: going to be the end all be all that we 146 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: thought that it was going to be. We thought that 147 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: when we voted in twenty twenty and we changed administrations, 148 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: that we were going to be on an upswing. But 149 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: apparently we did not understand how far down the Trump 150 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: administration and Republicans had pulled us into the fucking muck. 151 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: So now that we are here, and I don't even 152 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: think that we have gotten to the bottom of the bottom. 153 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: So the upswing that we are all hoping and praying for, 154 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: I think is fucking decades into the future. I hate 155 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: to break it to you, right, we actually may never 156 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: see an upswing in our lifetime, given the mechanics of 157 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court and the lack of will to do 158 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: any type of thinking even threatening the expansion thereof. So 159 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: when we wrap our minds around this, we have to 160 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: understand that it is going to be the young people, 161 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: those that are under the age of thirty five, those 162 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: that are under the age of thirty, those that are 163 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: Generation Z, that are going to be the ones to 164 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: make a shift, right, But we need to listen to 165 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: them in order for that to happen, And right now, 166 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: the Democratic establishment isn't listening to its stars. They aren't listen, 167 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: listening to and uplifting right those people that are more 168 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: in touch with and tapped into how people communicate and 169 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: how people get excited right about getting out there and 170 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: doing the right thing. And sometimes fear friends is a motivator. 171 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: We know that because that's the only thing that the 172 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: right ever uses. So when are we going to start 173 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: using all of the tools that we have in our toolbox, 174 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: expressly the stars that we have, in order to get 175 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: our message out? So coming up next, my conversation with 176 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: our good friend Kurt Bardella. 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He is also a 197 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: writer for a myriad of outlets including The LA Times 198 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: in USA Today and if you're a country music fan, 199 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: he is also prevalent in that world as well, a 200 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: man of many talents, Kurt Bardella, there are new poll 201 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: numbers that are out that put Biden's approval rating somewhere 202 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: between a toilet and a sewer. It is roughly at 203 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: around thirty three percent, which, if I'm not mistaken, is 204 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: lower than Donald Trump's approval rating ever was, which is shocking. 205 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: But I first want to get your reaction to these 206 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: latest numbers, the fact that ninety four percent of young people, 207 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: people under the age of thirty five, do not want 208 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: Joe Biden to run in twenty twenty four. He is 209 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: not their candidate. That when we are looking at satisfaction 210 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: and whether or not this country is on the right track, 211 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: that number two is in the toilet. And we have 212 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: roughly one hundred and nineteen or eighteen days until midterm elections. 213 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: So I want to first get your opinion. And I say, 214 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: oftentimes on woke a YEF, I am not beholden to polls, right, 215 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: I really am not. Because the Poles told me that 216 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: I should have had a different president in twenty sixteen. 217 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: The Poles told me that we should have a sixty 218 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: three court in our favor right now, and none of 219 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: that came to pass. And so I take things with 220 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: a grain of salt, but I do recognize that they 221 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: are warning signs. So how did that New New York 222 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: Times CNNA pole land with you? Well, you know, the 223 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: first thing, the number that I would be most interested in, 224 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: and I noticed it was a number that was not asked, 225 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: do you think Joe Biden should run if Donald Trump's 226 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: Republican nominee that would be an interesting question to know. 227 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 1: You know, as we have seen, Donald Trump lost to 228 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Joe Biden got the most votes in the 229 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: history of any presidential candidate ever, and I don't think 230 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: we can discount that. I'll also point out that in 231 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: every hypothetical matchup with Donald Trump and Joe Biden, and 232 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: even Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, Donald Trumble loses. You know, 233 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: So polls it's such an interesting thing. You have to 234 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: think about the person that gets this phone call from 235 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: a polster, you know, and you're asked a question that 236 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: up until that exact second, you probably were not thinking 237 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: about one way or the other. There's something almost unnatural 238 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: about how polling works, and I think that explains why 239 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: so often, frankly, they've been off the mark and if 240 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: misled him, misguided all of us at various pointed time. 241 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: It's very clear the president President Biden has challenges. It's 242 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: very clear he inherited the most challenging environment, I would 243 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: argue in the history of our country, a pandemic and 244 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: an economic crisis at the same time, not to mention 245 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: cleaning up the message that Donald truploff behind across the 246 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: entire form policy spectrum. It has not been an easy path, 247 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: and it seems like every time he gains a little 248 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: bit around, something else happens, and it's like one step forward, 249 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: a few steps back, and that that's really frustrating. The 250 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: American people are frustrated, you know. I think my takeaway 251 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: with Poles, as always, I don't care what the exact 252 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: number is. It's just an indication of a trend of 253 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: where they are emotionally at any point in time. American 254 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: people are frustrated, They're tired, they're exhausted. So much of 255 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: that is because of the four years of Donald Trump. 256 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: I would make that case, you know, and it's likely 257 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: not getting any better as things have gotten even more 258 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: divisive in this country because the Republican Party has lurched 259 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: towards the extreme, embraced violent white nationalism, and is imposing 260 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: an extreme minority of view on the rest of us. 261 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: And I think those of us who voted for Joe Biden, 262 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: who voted for a different path, they're going, how the 263 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: hell us is happening right now? While we in theory 264 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: have the reins of power, yet somehow we're losing things. 265 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: Things are being taken away from us left and right. 266 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: It's it's maddening, it's frustrating. But I think for all 267 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: those people who are under thirty particularly, and there's an 268 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: irony that those same people who say Joe Biden may 269 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: be too old urn for president, we're also the heart 270 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: and sole of the Bernie Sanders movement. Who's not a 271 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: young spring chicken. I might point out just say that 272 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of the it doesn't quite add 273 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: up to me sometimes. Uh, you know, I tell everybody 274 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: the most single, most important polls the one that's conducted 275 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: on election and for people under thirty, particularly who do 276 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: not show up in elections, who still underperform and elect. 277 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: If you want to change the way things are doing, 278 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: you want to change our politics, change politicians, you got 279 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: to show up and vote. That's barrier number one because 280 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: most politicians when they hear under thirty, they roll their 281 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: rise because they go off. They don't vote anyway. So 282 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: what do they do they what do they matter? You know, 283 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: I think you bring up several good points and and 284 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: you've been doing. Let me just commend you as I 285 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: do in private in public again, such a great job 286 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: on using utilizing all of your platforms, to you know, 287 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: to pound this this this message in. I want to 288 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: say that this administration did inherit multiple compound did crises. 289 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: My problem, however, is the fact that they don't continue 290 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: to talk about that fact that they inherited a series 291 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: of compounded crises that have only gotten worse over the 292 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: last year and a half. The last eighteen months, right, 293 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: I date things from the day of the insurrection until now, 294 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: so we're looking at the last eighteen months of how 295 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: quickly things have devolved. But my problem, Kurt, is the 296 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: fact that this administration does not connect the dots to 297 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: the American people to remind like you shouldn't have to 298 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: be reminded. It should just continually be pounded into your 299 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: psyche that you are here in this space trying to 300 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: put gas in your car and food on your table 301 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: and medicine in your cabinets because of the decisions that 302 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: were made in the Trump administration and because of the 303 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: Republican Party that continues to vote against your best interests. 304 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: So the question that I ask is, you know, as 305 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: a person who is a messenger, why do they move 306 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: away from a very clear message that is about defining 307 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: for the American people. Why you were in this situation. 308 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: You know, I think the trap that the Biden White 309 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: House kind of stepped into was the desire to want 310 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: to turn to page on COVID because people were so frustrated. 311 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,239 Speaker 1: They were they were over isolation, they were over uh 312 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, some of them remote working, they were overwearing 313 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: masks and vaccinations and all that, and some people, a large, 314 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: alarmingly large number of them didn't want to do anything 315 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: to protect anybody's health in America. I can't forget those 316 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: those great people. I think that they wanted to just 317 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: turn to page and you know, I equoted to that 318 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: George W. Bush Mission accomplished moment, you know, back in 319 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: the two thousand and I think that going into it, 320 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: they thought the administration that this would be that that 321 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: they would be able to get vaccines at shots and arms, 322 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: and then we would be able to get back to 323 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: quote unquote normal uh and people would be happy and 324 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: excited about that. And of course that that's not really 325 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: how it played out, uh, not even remotely. And and 326 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: I think that they underestimated the real venom of the 327 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: right uh and how they weaponized things like vaccines, how 328 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: they weaponized uh, you know this ridiculous notion that it's 329 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: somehow government intrusiveness to promote a vaccine that will save lives. Uh. 330 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: You know we heard at the time, you know, my choice, 331 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: my body. The irony there of course, as things would 332 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: play out later on, but they turned it into this 333 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: whole uh you know, attack on schools and teachers. You know, 334 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: that is where the myth of critical race theory was born. 335 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: Was born from that period of time. Uh. And I 336 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: think that the the administration wasn't prepared for that type 337 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: of just dishonesty. UM. I think a lot of people 338 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: thought going into it that, especially after January sixth. Remember 339 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: this was a point in time where even Republicans were saying, oh, 340 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: that went too far, this is terrible, we need to 341 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: move like that was not good. In the immediate aftermath 342 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: of January six Kevin McCarthy was out there saying this 343 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: was ridiculous. I think that they thought, well, Donald Trump 344 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: has now been disposed of, he's lost. We just went 345 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: through this January sixth episode. Republicans are wanting to go 346 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: back to normal. I think they really, in their heart 347 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: believe that on some level, and that's why they were 348 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: so I think blindsided when it turned out the Republican 349 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: Party they didn't need Donald Trump anywhere because they had 350 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: fully embraced and embodied the very worst elements of what 351 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: he brought to the political conversation, and there was no 352 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: going back for them, and they weren't going to try 353 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: to go back to quote unquote normal. This was their 354 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: identity going forward and had really nothing to do with 355 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: Donald Trump anymore. But let me push you on this part, 356 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: because you know, we say that the administration was caught 357 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: off guard, and my pushback is, how because Joe Biden 358 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: spent eight years in the Obama administration as Vice President 359 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: of the United States, when that very same party was 360 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: at the beginning stages of their of their cultish behavior, 361 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: when they said that that president was not a citizen 362 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: of these United States, when they lied about him being 363 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: a Muslim, when you had Mitch McConnell come to the 364 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: forefront and say we're going to make him a single 365 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: term president. You also had Mitch McConnell stealing the Supreme 366 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: Court seat, which has us in the position that we're in. 367 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 1: So how is it that Joe Biden sat literally shoulder 368 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: to shoulder with Barack Obama as this Republican Party began 369 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: its initial morphing into the radical right, white domestic terrorist 370 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: cult that it has become, and say to himself, Oh, 371 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: but I can do better, And I asked this. I 372 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: say this because to say that folks are caught off guard, 373 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: it's the same way to say, oh, my god, they 374 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: were caught off guard that Rob Wade was turned back. 375 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: Really because Republicans have been organizing in playing site for 376 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: fifty years saying that this was their holy grail. So 377 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: to say that they are caught off guard is for 378 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: me to alert me to the fact that you haven't 379 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: been paying attention. And I mean you, as in the 380 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: administration haven't been paying attention, even if ignore the last 381 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: fifty years and say, Alito and the League draft opinion 382 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: gave you a two month head start to create a strategy, 383 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: to figure out whether or not you could issue a 384 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 1: public emergency health emergency based around abortion, and to do 385 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: all of these things. So what is it that you think, honestly, 386 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: had this administration caught off guard? Because as far as 387 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: I can see, they were all conscious during the last 388 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: eight to twelve years. Now, I think to myself, I 389 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: go back to the Obama administration, years when I was 390 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: on the other side of this Republican and I would 391 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: make the case that often than that we got the 392 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: better of the Obama administration in our battles and fights. 393 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: And I remember thinking to myself back then, It's like, 394 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: how are we winning? I would I would be in 395 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: meetings with my fellow Republican colleagues and I'm like, how 396 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: is it that work? We shouldn't be winning these fights 397 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: right now. And now that I'm on the Democrat side 398 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: and I get to interface a lot with Democrat advisors 399 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: and staff and members, I swear to God, Danielle, there 400 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: is just a DNA difference I think from a political 401 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: operative standpoint. Yeah, how they view the world. Uh, you know, Democrats, 402 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: God bless them and God love And I'm proud to 403 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: be one of them. Let me say that very clearly. 404 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: I'm proud to be a Democrat and remember this party. 405 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: But they are they are such true believers that it's 406 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: almost as if there the self righteousness procludes them from 407 00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: seeing the forest producers. They genuinely believe they are right 408 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: and that should win the day they believe that, you know, Uh, yeah, 409 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: they can't understand why they're not winning when well, but 410 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: we're right, and we tell everybody we're right all the time. 411 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: And as it turns out, people don't really like that 412 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: about Democrats. Frankly. Uh, it's a major turn off. I mean, 413 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: any conversation now with anybody, if you start it with listen, 414 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm right, you're wrong. Let me tell you why, see 415 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: the lights and all will be good. People are going 416 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: to smack you in the face. What are you talking about? Um? 417 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: Republicans don't really operate that way. It's just a very 418 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: very different almost again, at a molecular DNA level. And 419 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: I think that is the real blind spot for Democrats 420 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: at times tactically and in these fights that we have. Uh, 421 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, they I can't tell you how many times 422 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: they know. I've been in meetings were like, but but 423 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: they're lying, as if that's like a revelation. It's like, 424 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: of course they're lying. Of course the Republicans are lying. 425 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: That's what they do. Their entire strategy is built on 426 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: lying to the American people. How do you not get that? 427 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: By now? I say the same thing you do. But 428 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: every time it's like Charlie Brown, Lucy and the Football 429 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: that they cannot believe that Republicans lying that they get 430 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: away with it, and it frustrates them to know in 431 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: And I mean that's why I think it's important for 432 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: Democrats as a party. And I don't mean this in 433 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: a self and ranizing way, but to listen to different voices, 434 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: Listen to people like me who came from a very 435 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: different part of the political conversation. Listen to people like 436 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: our dear friend Ellie Missed All who I think if 437 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: I were the President of States, I hire Elier right 438 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: now and just let him go to work. You know, 439 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: people like Jason Johnson and tiffty Cross and you and 440 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: me and Wajahad. I've noticed that our conversations that we 441 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: have amongst themselves, it's so very, very different than when 442 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 1: I get from the operational side of the Democratic Party. 443 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: And I think that there's that kind of group think 444 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: DC belt Way insider loop that they just kind of 445 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: all have had for so long. You look at anybody 446 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: who serves right now in this administration, they've been with 447 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: Biden forever. Yeah, And I think, and to your point, 448 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: I genuinely believe that that is part of the problem. 449 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: But what I'm also seeing and what I was faced 450 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: with last week is you know, all of a sudden, 451 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm the one to be at fault for pointing out 452 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: all of the things that are not going in our direction, right, like, 453 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Now it's not the actual inaction 454 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party. Apparently it is tweeting about the 455 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: inaction of the Democratic Party that is going to upend 456 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: our midterm elections and the entirety of the Biden administration, 457 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: which I think is absolute bullshit. And so you know, 458 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, how is it that we are able to critique? 459 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: Not in the way that I'm saying. I'm saying, there 460 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: is still fucking time. But there is only time if 461 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: you decide to wake up today and recognize that, yeah, 462 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: just saying that you own the truth or that facts 463 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: are on your side is not going to be the 464 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: winning thing. And I think to go back to the polls, frankly, 465 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: is that, Yeah, the matchup is with Trump, but I 466 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: guarantee you that like Trump ain't going to be the nominee. 467 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 1: It is going to be round Santis and a eighty 468 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: year old Joe Biden up against a fifty or forty 469 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: something year old Ron de Santis who is smarter than 470 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and a lot more cunning than Donald Trump 471 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: and is showing the Republican Party, based on the things 472 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: that he is doing in the state of Florida, what 473 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: he can do nationally. I don't think that Joe Biden 474 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: stands a chance, not this configuration of the Biden administration, 475 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: and so I'm like, how do how do we reconcile 476 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: that reality and how do they step into that reality? Yeah? 477 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I'll tell you. I think some of 478 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: the things that make me feel optimistic about the Democratic 479 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: Party going forward outside of this election cycle, but into 480 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. So I look at people that have 481 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: emerged like the governor Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer, the state Senator 482 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: in Michigan, Mallor McMorrow, who I think it's incredibly impressive. 483 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: I look at even people like Pete Bodha Chiche and 484 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 1: what he did this past week on Fox News Sunday, 485 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, or one of the Fox shows and dismantling 486 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: them as he does very effectively. It's like, you know, 487 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: we got we got some talent in our bench. And 488 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: I do think in a much bigger picture, there is 489 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: a generational shift that does need to happen in the 490 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: Democratic Party I think myself. I came here in two 491 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: thousand and six to Capitol Hill, and at that time, 492 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: the top three leaders in the House representative sort of 493 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: Democrat party were in Nancy Pelosi, Stanny Lawyer, and Jim Clever. 494 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty two and we are the exact same people. 495 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,719 Speaker 1: And this, to be very this isn't a knock on 496 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: any one of them individually or what their accomplishments with 497 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: their with their entire career of public service, which has 498 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: been extraordinary, has meant to our country, to our party 499 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: up and down. Everyone will tell you an Explosi is 500 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: the most effective Democratic leader in Congress we've ever had. 501 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: Jim Clyburn has obviously been an incredibly meaningful uh and 502 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: historical figure. But who have they been? But who have 503 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: they brought into your pot point under their wings? Right 504 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: to grow the next generation, the next generations of Democratic 505 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: leaders up like this is this is the same thing 506 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: that happened in the Obama years, right. I always say 507 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: the greatest endorsement of a leader's legacy is who comes 508 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: after him. And if that leader did such a good 509 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: job that you know that they also groom the next 510 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: generation to carry For that I guess see, Democrats have 511 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: not been good at that. For my observation over the years. 512 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: Say what you want about this Republican Party, let me 513 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: tell you something. When the battles with the Obada administration, 514 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: we're going on the people who are at the forefront 515 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: of that fight. It was Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows, like Pompeo, 516 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: These people who have become ten years later some of 517 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: the most visible, influential, powerful figures, and those were the 518 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: young guys back then. You know this is ten twelve 519 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: years ago. Conversely, on our side, I do see people 520 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: that have a lot of town I see people like 521 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: Rubin Gayego. I see people like Eric Swallow, like Ted 522 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: Lu like Castro in Texas and its Towad brother as well. 523 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: I see people like AOC and Congresswomen's leave. There are 524 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: an incredible amount of people under the age of forty, yeah, 525 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: who are who are dynamic. They understand the modern world. 526 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 1: They understand communications, they understand messaging, they understand follow they 527 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: understand the enemy that we are up against a day 528 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: um and so that gives me, that gives me some 529 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: semblance of hope that going forward we'll have an opportunity 530 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: to get some new blood. And I do think that 531 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: if Republicans win in twenty twenty two, uh, we're going 532 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: to need to have a massive, widespread change in our 533 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: entire party apparatus. I think if we are able to 534 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: hold on and and and defy expectations and defy history 535 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: and preserve our majority, and I do think we have 536 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: a really good shot in the Senate. Let me be 537 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: very clear, I think that we're gonna, We're gonna we 538 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: could even grow the Senate. Frankly, when I look at 539 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: the lunatics like herschel Walker and Memo, Oh my god, 540 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: greetings that are running right now like they're wow. But 541 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: I think in the House, uh, you know, we're going 542 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: to need to change some things up. Um. Last question 543 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: for you, Kurt is, do you think that while I 544 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: agree with you, I wholeheartedly agree with you. Do you 545 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: think that democratic establishment is ready to relinquish their power 546 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: to the younger set that is ready for the twenty 547 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: first century battle as opposed to the twentieth century one 548 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: that they all cut their teeth in. You know, whether 549 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: they're ready or not, they're going to have to live 550 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: with it because because because our generation we're coming and 551 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: we are no longer satisfied with just sitting on the 552 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: stylelines or being told to wait our turn. We're done 553 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: with that. I really think that there's going to be 554 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: a massive change that's going to happen within the Democratic Party, 555 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: and it's going to be people like all the folks 556 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: that we've talked about here that's going to lead that, 557 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: and we're just not going to be quiet anymore. I 558 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: think that the definition of insanity is doing the same 559 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: thing over and over again to expect different results. And 560 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: I think that also applies to leadership. If we keep 561 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: putting the same people in leadership positions, if we keep 562 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: starting the same quarterback over and over and over again, 563 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: and we still don't win a champ, if it's time 564 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: to make a change, absolutely, Kurt Bardella. Always love when 565 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: I have the opportunity to chat with you, my friend, 566 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: and appreciate again all of the work that you continue 567 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: to do to ring the alarm or as I like 568 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: to say, get people as woke as fuck as possible. 569 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Thanks Daniel. That is it for me today, 570 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: Dear friends on woke app as always, power to the 571 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: people and to all the people. 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