WEBVTT - The OTP | Pregame - Week 12

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<v Speaker 1>With Amy Wells and Mike Keith. Welcome to the audio

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<v Speaker 1>podcast Studio Ramon Foster and the Snickers Hot Seat. I

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<v Speaker 1>am welcome back. Need to play jo I do? I do?

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<v Speaker 2>If you're never not yourself have a Snicker.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, Snickers really satisfied?

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<v Speaker 2>It does me and my childhood, I had a three

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<v Speaker 2>rotation snack. Okay, a sprite and a can okay, bag

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<v Speaker 2>of chips and a Snicker. Wow, that's all lessen the

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<v Speaker 2>worst thing you possibly have. But you want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about living like a king as a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the but the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when you think about it, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not that bad, not that bad. I mean you can't

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't do it five times? No, I wasn't that gotta.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you can't have a Snickers and a

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<v Speaker 1>sprite and a bag of chips when you're a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Winning until the parents that are holding your kids back

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<v Speaker 2>from doing Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they're just going to go to college. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole other part.

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<v Speaker 2>Us.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So what we really should call this edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the OTP is totally in the weeds. If you

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<v Speaker 1>like football, you will never enjoy an OTP more than

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<v Speaker 1>you will enjoy this one.

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<v Speaker 3>WHOA, that's quite a promise.

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<v Speaker 1>It's quite well because Romone Foster's here.

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<v Speaker 3>So we can get it and I have.

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<v Speaker 1>The five topics to go in the weeds with him,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're going to show you our entire interview

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<v Speaker 1>with Jim from the recent's Senior Bowl. He's the executive director,

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<v Speaker 1>and we always we always visit with him in November, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because we know Titans fans like draft talk. And it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter what the record is it. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter where you're thinking your draft position is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be. We know you like draft talk. You like

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<v Speaker 1>it when we go to the Senior Bowl, you like

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<v Speaker 1>it when we go to the Combine. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>You tell us that, And I'll be honest, you guys

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<v Speaker 2>have made me like it even more too. I used

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<v Speaker 2>to not even pay attention to college players at all. Oh, gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>oh now I'm so locked in. It's so fun. It

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<v Speaker 2>is fast, it is so fun, And the only thing

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<v Speaker 2>we used to do in college at the University of Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 2>we used to track like the pre game, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the pre draft specialists and the mock drafts and see

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<v Speaker 2>how they'd hit on them. The only guarantees usually like

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<v Speaker 2>the top five. After that the specialists that the draft experts,

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<v Speaker 2>not really much that you can get from them. But

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side, going to the Senior Bowl and

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<v Speaker 2>the combine, that's where you get all the information.

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<v Speaker 1>Key to following the draft analysts is you want to

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<v Speaker 1>follow the ones who have relationships with real NFL people. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're getting backstory, they're getting context, they're getting perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's coming later. But Ramon, we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>go deep with you right on the five topics.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you ready, Amy, I'm excited too. This is quite

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<v Speaker 3>the intro topic one.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a real specific disadvantage for a team coming

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<v Speaker 1>off a Monday night football game like the Houston Texans

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<v Speaker 1>are this past Monday?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a real yes? Mentally mentally mentally because when

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<v Speaker 2>the game starts, the physicality, the physical side of it

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<v Speaker 2>it handles itself. One thing I always said about people

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<v Speaker 2>that guys have injuries or they have issues is you

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<v Speaker 2>never have to worry about them getting juiced up for

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<v Speaker 2>game day is going to happen regardless. Now, the mental

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<v Speaker 2>side of it is, they just played a big game

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<v Speaker 2>against the Cowboys, beat them on their home place. And

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<v Speaker 2>how do you reset yourself as far as game planning,

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<v Speaker 2>understanding that there is a short week and fighting that

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<v Speaker 2>earth say, man, this sucks we on a short week.

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<v Speaker 1>It does play a part in it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what becomes bothersome for younger guys that hadn't been

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<v Speaker 2>in that spot before or veterans who do need an

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<v Speaker 2>extra day is all right? Can you block that out?

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<v Speaker 2>This game more more times than not? And I always

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<v Speaker 2>tell people this, it is more mental than it is physical.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I mentally set myself up to compete physically, because again,

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<v Speaker 2>most guys run fast, jump about the same and do

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<v Speaker 2>the job. That's where the ones who do make it

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<v Speaker 2>and the ones who don't make it, that's where it

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<v Speaker 2>taxes you at Because I've been in the spot. Of

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<v Speaker 2>course as an undrafted guy, there was so much talent

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<v Speaker 2>that came like after me that was better than me mentally,

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't check that box every single day, and that

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<v Speaker 2>does happen on short weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>So disruption to the routine is a real thing. That's

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<v Speaker 4>a real problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, we're babies, okay, in we won't admit it, and

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<v Speaker 2>we have enough power and flexis players sometime either with

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<v Speaker 2>our trainers, family understands the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, coach, I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Really do this lift this way. You can control those

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<v Speaker 2>types of things. No, that is a portion of it though.

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<v Speaker 2>Aimy to wear routine right. That's one thing coaches also

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<v Speaker 2>teach too. What's your technique? What's your routine? Find you

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<v Speaker 2>get a veteran that's gonna show you the pathway. Those

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<v Speaker 2>types of things do matter. And the quicker you can

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<v Speaker 2>figure that out and learn how to block those disadvantages

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<v Speaker 2>out of your mind, the better of a pro you

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<v Speaker 2>will be in the better of a team. You can

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<v Speaker 2>get to like the mentalities we have that be thrown

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<v Speaker 2>out a lot. What is your team's character make up?

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<v Speaker 2>Who are you as a player?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>That's where it plays a part in it too into

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<v Speaker 2>development On mondays, I do this tuesdays.

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<v Speaker 1>I do these types of things.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you can be a veteran enough and stay

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<v Speaker 2>around the league long enough, long enough, then you'll be

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<v Speaker 2>able to get those things because you're paid a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more and you can kind of change.

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<v Speaker 1>The schedule out.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's why it's bigger for the younger guys

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<v Speaker 2>than it is for the veterans. I'll never forget my

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<v Speaker 2>first Thursday night game. It was a whirlwind. We were

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<v Speaker 2>playing in Cleveland and it was cold, it was windy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was not prepared so much so did almost

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<v Speaker 2>burn myself up on one of the heaters.

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<v Speaker 3>On the sideline.

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<v Speaker 2>It was with me and another rookie, Craig rvick Man.

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<v Speaker 2>It was by far I wanted the craziest things ever

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<v Speaker 2>because we just played on Sunday. Why do we have

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<v Speaker 2>to play on Thursday? Those are the types of things

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<v Speaker 2>that happened this week.

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Topic two? Are you ready? Yes? Houston's defense.

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<v Speaker 1>They have an NFL high sixty eight tackles for loss, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>six per game. They have twenty takeaways, including fourteen interceptions.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Burke is the defensive coordinator. He was here for

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<v Speaker 1>the early part of his career. He is a Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Schwartz disciple. Demiko Ryans is also a defensive guru from

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<v Speaker 1>his playing days and his coaching background. So with all

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<v Speaker 1>of that build up, what are the character sticks that

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<v Speaker 1>jump out to Ramon Foster about the Texans defense.

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<v Speaker 2>First word that comes to mind, and I said that

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<v Speaker 2>the coach matc stout.

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<v Speaker 1>Stout. Stout.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not like Minnesota where they just you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we can't get out of the way of everything that's moving,

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<v Speaker 2>like there's just so many blitzes and stent. No, this

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<v Speaker 2>defense is stout. They got big bodies up front that

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<v Speaker 2>can handle the offensive line. They got linebackers that can

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<v Speaker 2>run side to side. Heck, they got a backup, a

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<v Speaker 2>former first round draft pick at number five overall in

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<v Speaker 2>Devin White, as a backup for their team. And when

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<v Speaker 2>they play, they know they have to stay stout and

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<v Speaker 2>the mentality of their team too, holds the point can

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<v Speaker 2>get up the field, but they also have speed around

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<v Speaker 2>the edge. That's the way I look at them. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the type of defense. If I was playing them,

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<v Speaker 2>my mindset would be, we have to beat them up.

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<v Speaker 2>This is gonna be a slow two yards two yards.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we can complete and punt, and we got to

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<v Speaker 2>continue to chip away at them because their depth is

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<v Speaker 2>so deep that you have to be able to find

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<v Speaker 2>words to kink in the arm. Right, where is the

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<v Speaker 2>hole that we're gonna be able to go to And

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<v Speaker 2>the only way to go about that is to hit

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<v Speaker 2>them in the face like that will be my mentality.

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<v Speaker 2>But even towards the linebackers right like Henry Totoe is

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<v Speaker 2>turning into a guy, he's also a guy to go

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<v Speaker 2>side to side, So if you're gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 2>run on them, you need to be good with your

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<v Speaker 2>tight ends on the edge to be able to get

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<v Speaker 2>to him on the second level also, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>back end handles itself. They keep the top on for

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<v Speaker 2>the most part. And then last week we saw against

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<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys on Monday Night Football, Derrick Barnett is a

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<v Speaker 2>backup playing for them, another former first round draft pick.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets a sack fumble, big old offensive lineman think

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<v Speaker 2>is his opportunity to run the football and catch it. No,

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<v Speaker 2>then he's ends up stripping him the football and running

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<v Speaker 2>in for a touchdown. They have specific playmakers on their

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<v Speaker 2>team that make their entire squad good because they do

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<v Speaker 2>have the talent, but it starts with the bigs that

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<v Speaker 2>they have up front.

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<v Speaker 1>Denico Altri.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we're gonna speak about it in a minute

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<v Speaker 2>too or at some point this week. He's another one

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<v Speaker 2>of those big body, long, rangy guys that simply move

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<v Speaker 2>you backwards. The Niko's not a flashy guy when the

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<v Speaker 2>way he plays football, that's not his game. His game

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<v Speaker 2>is to push you backwards and try to get you

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<v Speaker 2>off your point with his strength. And that's the way

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<v Speaker 2>I feel about their entire defense, include to Mario Edwards too.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you look on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>If I can say this word one of the biggest agitators,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna say the other word. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>say one of the biggest agitators on this squad is

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry Hughes fifteenth year.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>There was an all out fight with him and Camp

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<v Speaker 2>that we had joint practices with the Buffalo Bills. He's

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<v Speaker 2>been that guy every single year of his career. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's no breathing room with this defense. So it's a

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<v Speaker 2>mindset type of week, Mike Amy to where it's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be easy. You just gotta keep putting dirt

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<v Speaker 2>in the wheelbarrow and continue to walk it uphill with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So let me go through the ten guys they

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<v Speaker 1>have in the defensive line rotation, and they probably won't

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<v Speaker 1>all be active, but let's just go through it. Dylan Horton,

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<v Speaker 1>second year player out of TCU. You mentioned Derek Barnett.

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<v Speaker 1>Three sacks on the year. Will Anderson's missed the last

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<v Speaker 1>two games. We'll see if he plays. He has seven

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<v Speaker 1>and a half sacks this year. Moving inside the defensive tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>Mario Edwards, who was here in twenty twenty two and

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<v Speaker 1>in his ninth year out of Florida State, has sort

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<v Speaker 1>of figured out who he is. He's playing good football.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Saddle, big old guy from Virginia Tech. Five sacks

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<v Speaker 1>on the year. He's having a career year. Kirk Heiinish

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<v Speaker 1>is a plugger, a guy out of Notre Dame in

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<v Speaker 1>his third year. Plays hard but won't play a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>The addition there at a defensive tackle is Folo Fatakassi,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has played really well. He's sixth year guy

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<v Speaker 1>out of Yukon who he's listed at three eighteen. No

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<v Speaker 1>chance he was you.

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<v Speaker 2>See it on tape, you do.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a large individual. You mentioned Jerry Hughes in his

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<v Speaker 1>fifteenth year. He was initially a bust he was when

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<v Speaker 1>he was drafted by Indianapolis. He goes to Buffalo and

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<v Speaker 1>became a man, and now he's in his fifteenth year.

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<v Speaker 1>Deniko Autry, who is a little banged up. We know

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<v Speaker 1>all about him. We talked about him on Titans Tonight

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<v Speaker 1>with Keith Bullock on Wednesday, and it still upsets me.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't play here, but I understand he wanted more

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<v Speaker 1>money business. And then there's Daniel Hunter. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>mention it, okay, So that is point three. Yeah, Daniel Hunter,

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<v Speaker 1>ninth year out of LSU. His first eight years were

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<v Speaker 1>spent with Minnesota. Interesting fact about Daniel Hunter. He is

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<v Speaker 1>seventh on the active list in quarterback sacks. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>like to hear the other six?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I was okay. Von Miller yep, gold jacket. One hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty seven point five career sacks.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Cameron Jordan, Yeah, one hundred eighteen and one half career sacks.

0:11:56.600 --> 0:12:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Kalais Campbell one hundred and nine point five career sacks,

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<v Speaker 1>Khalil Mack one hundred and six career sacks. TJ. Watt

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and four career sacks. I didn't know he

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<v Speaker 1>got there. Yeah. Wow, Miles Garrett ninety five and a

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<v Speaker 1>half sacks. You block, you tried to block all these guys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Danil Hunter ninety five sacks on the year.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, he had sixteen and a half sacks

0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.599
<v Speaker 1>last year in his eighth and final year with the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean those are you know? To me? That

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<v Speaker 1>number sixteen and a half sacks. That's fifty home runs

0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.720
<v Speaker 1>in baseball, that's thirty points a game in basketball. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're getting not only to double digits, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>over fifteen, that's special, all right. This year leads the

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<v Speaker 1>National Football League with seventy two quarterback pressures. Crazy wow,

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<v Speaker 1>seven quarterback pressures at the team Jeff Simmons just had

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<v Speaker 1>a great game against Minnesota last weekend and he had

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<v Speaker 1>six quarterback pressures. This dude is averaging right at seven

0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.080
<v Speaker 1>quarterback pressures a game. He has seven and a half sex.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's really a wind up for point three. What

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<v Speaker 1>is it about Daniel Hunter that makes him a force? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>My, so I got two stories about him real quick,

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<v Speaker 2>Danil Hunter.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what a podcast is for. It is, yes, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>You can expand up story if you can you can't

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<v Speaker 2>see my hands. You can see me expand upon.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying, no time limit, no disqualification podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>And it is good. They'll continue to listen to us too. Right, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>see there's that. Yeah, So the danil Hunter number one,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a clip of him circulating around social media. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure if you guys have sing that you hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>followed Mike. I mean he's tea and voice, okay on

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<v Speaker 2>all social media platform is a M I A M

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<v Speaker 2>I E. That's right, Yes, it is like the pure

0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Prairie League song we Gotta Plug Ourselves. But there's a

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<v Speaker 2>clip of him on social media and he's developed this

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<v Speaker 2>new spin move that I hadn't seen almost anybody do.

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<v Speaker 2>He is rushing up on the right tackle, which I

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<v Speaker 2>know that's.

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<v Speaker 1>The sort of that's going to be a top time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well i'll keep that one in the back exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>He rushes up and he hit this whirl of wind

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<v Speaker 2>spin move and he's disclose. I snapped my finger, Okay,

0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.840
<v Speaker 2>this close to sacking the quarterback. And it is such

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<v Speaker 2>a ballet type of move for guy his size that

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<v Speaker 2>when I first met him as a player, this wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>who he was okay. And so the second story one

0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:33.920
<v Speaker 2>is that if you hadn't seen that clip, find it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a mussy to watch him maneuver the way he is.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the first story. The second story was when

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<v Speaker 2>we first played, when he first came into the league,

0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.480
<v Speaker 2>had some veterans on that defense up in Minnesota. Jared

0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Allen was one of those guys. I mean, they just

0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.280
<v Speaker 2>had a plethora of dudes. It was a Harrison was

0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.120
<v Speaker 2>still on the team at that point, okay, but the

0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.400
<v Speaker 2>d line was stout, it was stocked, it was ready

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<v Speaker 2>to go. And all I can remember was was, who

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<v Speaker 2>in the heck is this?

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<v Speaker 1>Then? What is it? Danielle guy? Who is it? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>fell it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course we as football players become very cocky

0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.040
<v Speaker 2>and just disrespectful. I mean to tell me, I'm supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to block a dude by the name of Danielle. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all I kept thinking. Okay, law and behold this joker

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<v Speaker 2>Rushes And he's such a young guy at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've ever seen him his physic, I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit slender. Now, well, he came in, he

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<v Speaker 2>was like big and bulky. His arms looked like Jack's

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<v Speaker 2>off of more to combat like they were that huge

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<v Speaker 2>and a tall specimen man, And I'll never forget. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>left guard and they do a bunch of the same

0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.360
<v Speaker 2>stuff they do now at Minnesota. They'll stun in and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget he's slanting it in on me and

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<v Speaker 2>hit me so hard that I say, yes, sir, mister Daniel,

0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:45.640
<v Speaker 2>that's just where I was. He was, But that just

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<v Speaker 2>the force that he came into the league. You gotta

0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.320
<v Speaker 2>start doing certain things to solidify yourself as a player.

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<v Speaker 2>For the most part for young guys is physicality. How

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<v Speaker 2>can I go abuse the next person around me? I mean,

0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:58.800
<v Speaker 2>we saw to Andandre sweat this past weekend. Hit Aaron

0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.240
<v Speaker 2>Jones and I could have swore, and I heard Aaron

0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Jones go oh on the sideline when he grabbed him

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<v Speaker 2>and fell on top of him. It was by far

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<v Speaker 2>one of the hardest tackles I've ever seen. But Denikoko

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<v Speaker 2>Danil Hunter's entry into the NFL, to me was just

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<v Speaker 2>a wild, reckless human being that was a long specimen

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<v Speaker 2>of an athlete that was very physical, and that to

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<v Speaker 2>me seems to be the reason he got paid what

0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.360
<v Speaker 2>he paid. While his career's gone the way it is

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<v Speaker 2>right now. And at the end of the day, when

0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.400
<v Speaker 2>you play that position that he does, the physical game

0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.720
<v Speaker 2>always shows up. You can't be soft and play defensive

0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:36.720
<v Speaker 2>line of football in general. And that's a part of

0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.120
<v Speaker 2>his game that he carries. And that's what's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the case this upcoming weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>And what's scarier than a guy who is described as

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<v Speaker 4>physical and reckless and just a beast the way that

0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:52.480
<v Speaker 4>Ramone just told that story is that person, but as

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<v Speaker 4>a vet because now he's learned how to control it

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<v Speaker 4>and how to use all of those elements of his

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<v Speaker 4>game completely to his advantage and do.

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<v Speaker 3>It with precisions, which good it is.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not just a reckless guy who's overpowering and strong

0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.480
<v Speaker 5>and able to do these things. He's able to contain

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<v Speaker 5>it and use it in a way because he's refined

0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:18.200
<v Speaker 5>his craft like all exactly.

0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.040
<v Speaker 2>And know how to get home. And then those types

0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.680
<v Speaker 2>of guys like himself that has a reputation for physicality,

0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:24.560
<v Speaker 2>like Jeff right, then you get to a point to

0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.280
<v Speaker 2>where it's sad to say this, though it ain't sad

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<v Speaker 2>to say because it's a game. But then you pick

0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.400
<v Speaker 2>and choose when I'm going to go. And that's where

0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:35.680
<v Speaker 2>it becomes even more tricky. Is I'm expecting the brute force, right,

0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.159
<v Speaker 2>No blunt force? I mean no, Now he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>hit a paarilet on me and a spin move and

0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:43.760
<v Speaker 2>dip his shoulder. I see he's listed here on the

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<v Speaker 2>on the sheet at six five to sixty three, every

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<v Speaker 2>bit of them.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>He had the biggest, longest arms of a young guy

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<v Speaker 2>that I'd seen at the time, and it's paid off

0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:53.440
<v Speaker 2>on him.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody could figure out quite who he was going to be,

0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.400
<v Speaker 1>which is why he went in the second round. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like, yeah, he looks like is he going

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<v Speaker 1>to grow into the three hundred pound guy or is

0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.080
<v Speaker 1>he going to take some weight off and become more

0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:15.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know when guys remake their bodies, which

0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:19.480
<v Speaker 1>is what always happens in the NFL, largely in year

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<v Speaker 1>one to year two because you see guys come back

0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.879
<v Speaker 1>in year two and you're like, oh, hell, I mean,

0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.960
<v Speaker 1>say Peter Skoronsky. Pete had a whole off season where

0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.760
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't having to go on pre draft visits and

0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.439
<v Speaker 1>run around them, and so all of a sudden, Pete's

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<v Speaker 1>a different Yeah, he's a different cat. Now what he

0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:43.480
<v Speaker 1>weighs is or isn't different. How he looks and how

0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.560
<v Speaker 1>it's put together is different. Sometimes it is what you weigh.

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<v Speaker 1>It is because a lot of these young guys, you

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<v Speaker 1>go from being a big kid basically to becoming a man,

0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.320
<v Speaker 1>which is why when you play these teams with guys

0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.439
<v Speaker 1>in their late twenties, early thirties, or even Jerry Huge

0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:05.160
<v Speaker 1>who's in Deniko mid to late thirties, those are grown

0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:06.200
<v Speaker 1>men they are.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's to your point, like why it's so important

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<v Speaker 2>for you to one jump onto the deep end of

0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:15.640
<v Speaker 2>the pool as a rookie so I belong and after that, Okay, how.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I become better as a pro? What is your training? Like? Secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>when do I take off days?

0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Like those are all part of how you become a

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<v Speaker 2>pro with longevity, right because in college they tell you

0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.800
<v Speaker 2>everything you're supposed to do, they feed you like there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot that has to change. And the one thing

0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.959
<v Speaker 2>that's the biggest advantage for pro is time, Like you

0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.480
<v Speaker 2>have free time, so that may mean more.

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<v Speaker 1>Rest and disadvantage. Yeah, that's true too.

0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:44.440
<v Speaker 2>We've seen how that can go for the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>Because everybody talks about money. Yeah, I think the biggest

0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:53.280
<v Speaker 1>disadvantage potentially is time freedom because guys don't know what

0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:58.639
<v Speaker 1>to do. They're going to order taco bell and play Minecraft.

0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:01.159
<v Speaker 2>Or or go to Vegas and party the couches all

0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:05.639
<v Speaker 2>day long. Yeah, you're right, that is, which is when

0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:09.800
<v Speaker 2>you say it's a grown man's game, like managing and budgeting,

0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:13.120
<v Speaker 2>all of that is somewhat to your point, I think

0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.720
<v Speaker 2>understated it is. There is a I'll never forget my

0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:21.040
<v Speaker 2>first off season. Oh, my first off season. I'm almost

0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:23.320
<v Speaker 2>ashamed to just be like, yeah, that was me in

0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:26.399
<v Speaker 2>that time because it's so much to your point, free

0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:29.399
<v Speaker 2>time and there's so much access. Well back then, we

0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:31.600
<v Speaker 2>didn't get nil in college, so being able to have

0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:35.480
<v Speaker 2>the funds was new to me. It was, Oh, I

0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.280
<v Speaker 2>can just go out of town. I don't have to

0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:39.640
<v Speaker 2>go to the facility right now and lift. Like there's

0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:42.640
<v Speaker 2>a big management of that. But hopefully with this new

0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:44.639
<v Speaker 2>regime coming in, these young guys seem to have that

0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:48.360
<v Speaker 2>under the belt little bit. Specifically to Fandre I'm impressed

0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:50.960
<v Speaker 2>by his longevity and he's shown in this big rookie

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<v Speaker 2>year of.

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0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:26.679
<v Speaker 1>Ramon Foster and the Snickers hot Seat. We called this

0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the OTP pregame. Are you ready for topic four?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Topic four? How do you expect the Texans to

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<v Speaker 1>attack the right side of the Titans offensive line, specifically

0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:42.120
<v Speaker 1>the right tackle situation in waves?

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<v Speaker 2>That's the first one, because they have it. Will Anderson

0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:47.280
<v Speaker 2>hadn't played the last few weeks. The last time we

0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:49.520
<v Speaker 2>were in Houston, he had the two and a half

0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.280
<v Speaker 2>sack game, and I'm not mistaken, So of course, if

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<v Speaker 2>there was a week he was gonna come back, it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably going to be this one for him. But not

0:21:56.080 --> 0:22:00.159
<v Speaker 2>only just that the Titans had the illegal formation, the

0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:02.320
<v Speaker 2>anxiety of getting on the line of scrimmage this week

0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:05.280
<v Speaker 2>is something that if I was Houston, I jump off

0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:08.440
<v Speaker 2>sides just one time, just to set them up, to

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<v Speaker 2>let them know, like, I'm going to be upfield and

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing you can do about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean, teams would set out to and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>say it in a bad way, but they would say, hey,

0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:20.880
<v Speaker 1>let's jump one time here early, just to get them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>get them generally.

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<v Speaker 2>Because here's the other portion of it is until that

0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:27.640
<v Speaker 2>side can prove that it's going to stop a nosebleed,

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<v Speaker 2>what's to convince me that I can't get back there again?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'll give up to five to get something

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<v Speaker 2>later down the line, because if I can rate anxiety

0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:37.720
<v Speaker 2>to where now if I'm not mistaken. There's been a

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<v Speaker 2>League memo about line of scrimmage positioning for tackles because

0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:44.399
<v Speaker 2>it is a disadvantage to the outside Russia on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of the ball. There has to be fairness

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<v Speaker 2>in this game. I would get up filled with speed,

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<v Speaker 2>use that turf to my advantage, Mike and up the middle,

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<v Speaker 2>try to stop the run as much as I possibly

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:55.840
<v Speaker 2>can to force this team into long down the distances,

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<v Speaker 2>and as an offensive player, I say that because I

0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:02.159
<v Speaker 2>always on what I thought teams would do to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the idea of like film study and going

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<v Speaker 2>through it and seeing what my deficiencies are, because if

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 2>I know how you're going to attack me, then I

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<v Speaker 2>have a better way of succeeding. And that's where having

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<v Speaker 2>that experience of those five, six, seven eight year veterans

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 2>in the league, which this offensive line doesn't have right

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<v Speaker 2>now other than Bronsko getting into the starting lineup, that's

0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:26.520
<v Speaker 2>where that advantage takes over for you. Is Hey, if

0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 2>I was that team, I would do this to you.

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:30.520
<v Speaker 2>And it's no slight to call somebody out in their

0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:33.040
<v Speaker 2>weakness because that's the truth sound of being a really

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 2>good teammate.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what I would do this.

0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 2>I would create so much anxiety for So.

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<v Speaker 4>We started this podcast talking about the mental aspect of

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:45.320
<v Speaker 4>routine and all that. There's a mental aspect of going

0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 4>after an opposing team at a place where they might

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:53.360
<v Speaker 4>know that there are issues, and so if you can

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:56.680
<v Speaker 4>exploit that even mentally, you're giving yourself the advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's just like of us have grandparents.

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<v Speaker 2>If my granddad gives my brother five dollars, I'm going

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:06.639
<v Speaker 2>to my granddad to get five dollars too, because you

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 2>got a reputation, granddaddy, you gave him five and I

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.400
<v Speaker 2>have like they've seen what the tape has shown them

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 2>against other teams, and that's something that has to be exposed.

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<v Speaker 1>At that point, I at.

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<v Speaker 2>Least have to test it because we were always taught

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL across all thirty two cities. Your film

0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:24.879
<v Speaker 2>travels three weeks is what it takes.

0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>If it leaves.

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<v Speaker 2>In the first week, then I gotta try it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Well two weeks later, let me see if it's still fixing.

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 2>If it's not, then it resets over your tape travels.

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:38.320
<v Speaker 2>And that's why these guys spend so much time in meetings.

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:41.120
<v Speaker 2>This is why film study and the way they track

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 2>and watch tape is a thing now too, because your

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 2>deficiency is going to be the first thing that they attack.

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Nobody worries about you being in space and being good

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.439
<v Speaker 2>on you know linebackers. No, you can't hold up at

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:55.400
<v Speaker 2>the line of scrimmage. Let me test this thing out

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 2>because it worked for them last week and I hated it.

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I had a vall do me like that, Sean Ellis,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget he's playing for the Jets, and the

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 2>week before I'd given up a sack and a guy

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:11.399
<v Speaker 2>hit me with an outside rush and beat me quickly inside.

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 2>You know what I had on the first third down?

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:18.240
<v Speaker 2>And I told him too. And it was so funny

0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:19.919
<v Speaker 2>the exchange we had, because he was of all I

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:22.119
<v Speaker 2>was like, I was excited to play against him. He

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.359
<v Speaker 2>went outside and tried to go inside on me, and

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I said, you've been watching tape punk and he laughed.

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 2>He was like, I had to try it, and that's

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 2>the way the game goes. He told me in that moment,

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 2>I had to try it. I saw it on tape.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how my new like the the details are.

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for topic five.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ready for topic five.

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<v Speaker 1>We already five. We're in the weeds. We're in the weeds.

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<v Speaker 1>On this edition of the OTP pregame with Ramone Foster

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<v Speaker 1>in the Snickers hot seat. Between week seven and eleven,

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:57.640
<v Speaker 1>arden Key has five sacks and nine tackles for loss,

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 1>a couple of forest fumbles too. What is ardent Key

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:05.640
<v Speaker 1>doing well? That has made it hard for offensive linemen

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 1>to be able to handle him?

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Not running? No what I have seen earlier. Again, I

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 2>feel like he's attacking more again, shocking, all right, you

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 2>gotta get guys at that point to where I gotta

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 2>think about what you're gonna do, and if you hit

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:21.680
<v Speaker 2>me in the face as many times as he has

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 2>so far, then I got to think about what's next,

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 2>or if you make a counter move off of that,

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:29.560
<v Speaker 2>which he has been beating guys around the edge, and

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I feel like his finish has been more relentless as

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 2>of late than I think we've seen in the last

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 2>two years here. So his ability to be physical with

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 2>the guys up front and then not sticky. He's long armed,

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:42.720
<v Speaker 2>he's long leg He's a rangy guy as itself, as

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.879
<v Speaker 2>it pertains to anyway, with his characteristic traits. So he

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 2>has to be able to use that. He said during

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 2>the bye week he went and had film study or

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:52.679
<v Speaker 2>it has some outside council, and sometimes it takes a

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 2>person say why are you doing what you're not good at?

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:57.479
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like that's what he's done. He is

0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:01.959
<v Speaker 2>too long and too athletic and has a relentless motor

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 2>that it's a shame that he wasn't using. I think

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 2>he was just trying to play the technique just a

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 2>little bit too much. I think when guy's are vets

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.160
<v Speaker 2>like him, you do have to build it straight outside

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:13.120
<v Speaker 2>of your parameter, and that's what I feel like he's

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 2>been doing as of late. But to me, it does

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 2>show him carrying his lunch hell every single Sunday and

0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 2>just he's tired on the sideline when he comes over,

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.200
<v Speaker 2>you know. And I think he's also had a little

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 2>fun to his game. The reactions that he and Jeff

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.719
<v Speaker 2>have on the sideline seem like there's a little bit

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 2>of a competition that I see from time to time,

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 2>and there's a need and want for it too, because

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 2>somebody on this team's got to answer the call to

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:37.880
<v Speaker 2>help this team want more games, and as of late,

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 2>it has been him.

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 1>The other part of him too, is he's the long

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>rangey guy. He doesn't weigh as much as everybody at

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>his position, but man, he is strong and explosive in

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:54.159
<v Speaker 1>his lower body, and when you see that part of

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>his get you don't think he's going to be necessarily

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 1>just from when he stands next to the other eleven guys, oh,

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be one of the more physical dudes.

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 1>He's not big like Deniko Autry and Harold is shorter

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:11.400
<v Speaker 1>and stouter, you know, as a player. But this kid,

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:13.959
<v Speaker 1>i'd be a kid. He's not a kidding he is

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 1>he's fun to watch. And you know the other thing

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>about him, everybody thinks, like Daniel Hunter lsuga. He's from Georgia,

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>and man, every football player I've ever seen come out

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 1>of Georgia high school football, it seems like, I mean

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>they are.

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 3>It's a different world.

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean the level of competition they play, whether it's

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>in a city or in a suburb around the country.

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the level of football in the state of

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Georgia in high school is amazing.

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 2>It is that Wanner Robbins area, I mean from north

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 2>of Georgia all the way down to the bottom part.

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>So I look at the recruiting a good bit, the.

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Amount of four and five stars, like you'll be thirty

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 2>forty players deep and they're still in four star rankings.

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>Yep. That's unheard of almost in a sense. And that's

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>why for many years coaches that I've talked with have

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>always contended the best job in the Southeastern Conference is Georgia.

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>And you'd say, well, well what about Alabama. Well, in Alabama,

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>you gotta you're gonna have to go against Auburn for players,

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and then they're like, oh, okay, well what about Florida.

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, everybody in the country comes into Florida

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 1>after players, and they have Florida State and Miami in

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the same state, and now you have South Florida and

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Central Florida and Florida Atlantic and Florida International and so

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.959
<v Speaker 1>on and so forth. You look at Georgia though, because

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>of how Georgia Tech is set up as a university. Yep,

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>they and everybody thinks, well, it's just engineering, but they

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>don't have every single college that Georgia does. So if

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>you want to go get an education, it's possible. They

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>don't offer something you may be interested in. Their more

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 1>specific so not only do they have high academic standards there,

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a little different. And while they do well and

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Brent Keith, he's got them playing Royll and they have

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a history of their own, Georgia has an inside track

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, with their reputation, they can go

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>to Florida, they can go to South Carolina, they can

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>go to Tennessee, they can go out.

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 4>A homegrown you don't have to don't have to for

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 4>the country.

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>If you know, the core of your class is going

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>to come from that state every year. I mean, it's

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>what Kirby Smart's been able to do.

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 2>It is he's put a stronghold on it because you're right,

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 2>in the years where Tennessee was besting them, they go get.

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>They go get Eric Barry. Eric Barry was supposed to

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>leave Georgia. I mean his history, you know it's been

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean many of the greatest players at the University

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 1>of Tennessee where Georgia kids. How has Kentucky rebooted their

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>football program? If you look at the list, it's a

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of kids from Georgia, and and it may be

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>kids that Georgia didn't recruit, and but it's like the

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 1>level of competition they've still played. I mean, you go

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 1>get a three star out of Georgia, it's like that

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>guy can become a four star, five star college player.

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And if you look at their top ten, seven

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 2>of those top ten. So your point about Georgia not

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 2>wanting all of them, but they're going to get the

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 2>cream of the crop all times and not Yeah, I mean,

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 2>I know Nil somewhat contains that these days, but they're

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 2>getting seven of the top ten more times and speaking.

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Of prospects, uh huh. We turn now to Jim Naggy,

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 1>who is the executive director of the REESUS Senior Both.

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>He joined Amy and me just a few days ago

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>to talk about some of the trends and what's going

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 1>on as we stay in the weeds in this edition

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>of the OTP pre Game. Here we talk twenty twenty

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>five draft with Jim Naggy. Amy Wells and I are

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 1>so glad to welcome the executive director of the REESEUS

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl, Jim Naggy. Jim, thank you so much for

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>joining us.

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 6>Good to be back on guy. It's good to see

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 6>you again.

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Jim.

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 4>We've heard a lot about the twenty twenty five draft

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 4>class and that it's not loaded with a ton of

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 4>top end players, but that Day three could be pretty

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 4>loaded because of all the players who had the extra

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 4>COVID eligibility.

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 3>Do you think that's an accurate statement?

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 6>That is definitely accurate, and it's a good thing for

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 6>the Senior Bowl really. I mean I think I look

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 6>at this whole draft thing selfishly, very selfishly about who

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 6>we can you know, get to mobile and whatnot. I

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 6>do think in a normal year, in a normal year,

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 6>an average year, I think most teams would have somewhere

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 6>in the mid teens in terms of first round grades

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 6>on players. In a good year, it's in somewhere in

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 6>that low twenties to mid twenties. And this year, talking

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 6>to teams on the calls that we just had, we

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 6>just finished up fourteen calls trying to get at our

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 6>roster selection process wrapped up, and there's some teams that

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 6>don't have ten first round grades right now. So it

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 6>is a deeper class exactly why you said, because it's

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 6>the last year of the extra COVID year. But there's

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 6>no there's not a ton of high end guys. I

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 6>had another a national medium member reach out the other

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 6>day and he was going on a show and he

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 6>wanted to ask my opinion on it. And he said,

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:13.239
<v Speaker 6>in the team that he was in his market, they

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 6>will be picking very high in the draft. And he asked,

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 6>is this is this not a good year to have

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 6>a top top five pick or a top ten pick,

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 6>And I said, no, it's probably not a good year

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 6>because there's like last year, there was a lot of

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 6>teams wanting to trade up for the quarterbacks. I don't

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 6>think we're going to see that this year. So it

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 6>is going to be a deep class. It's just not

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 6>it's not great.

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Up top Jim, Which are the strongest positions in the

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five NFL Draft as it looks now and

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 1>which which appeared to be the weaker positions?

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 6>Definitely running back. This is the deepest running back and

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 6>most talented running back group we've seen in a long time.

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 6>A lot of high end guys teams, Teams don't really

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 6>want to take those guys, you know, in the first

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 6>couple of rounds nowadays, but there's I think, you know,

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 6>depending on where the run happened, there's going to be

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 6>a run happen, and it's probably gonna be on Day

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 6>two somewhere. I think you'll see Ashton genty from from

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 6>Boise State going the first round. I'll be curious to

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 6>see if any other guys you know, sneak up in

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 6>that range, but I think Ashton's definitely there. I think

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 6>the question with him is how high he'll how high

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 6>he'll go, how high he'll climb during the process. But

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 6>if the run happens in the second or happens in

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 6>the third, but I do think it's going to happen

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 6>somewhere on Day two. And and we've got twelve junior

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 6>running backs on the on the Senior Bowl board right

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:33.360
<v Speaker 6>now that are now available to us. I'm I'm actively

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 6>trying to lock some of those guys up right now

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 6>with agents to UH for roster spots. And and we're

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 6>gonna bring twelve mobile we've invited six seniors. We think

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 6>all those guys are are going to be drafted before

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 6>the fifth round. And again, in a normal year, you know,

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 6>at the at the running back position, before we were

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 6>able to bring juniors, that is a position where we

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 6>were dipping into those later rounds where we like to

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 6>stay out of. So no, that's a really good class.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 6>The defensive line class, all the way across from from

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 6>the in tierior guys, you know somebody you could draft,

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:08.839
<v Speaker 6>somebody to pair with with Big Devandre I know he's

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 6>having a great year for you guys. And then all

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:12.799
<v Speaker 6>the way out to the edge group. I mean there's

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 6>some pass rushers, not in the first half of the

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 6>first round, but there's some really good depth of that

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 6>in the pass rush class as well.

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 4>Who are some of the players who you feel have

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 4>really helped their twenty twenty five draft stock by their

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 4>play in twenty twenty four.

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 6>Wow, we could. We could probably go position by position there.

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:32.360
<v Speaker 6>There there's a number of guys that have that have

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 6>really jumped out. I mean Ashton Genty being one of them.

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 6>I mean, we liked him a lot, but he's having

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 6>a phenomenal year. But well, we can there's a lot

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 6>of people talking about Ashton Genty. You know, you work

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 6>across the board, like there's there's some tight ends in

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 6>this group. There's a kid, Gunner Helme at Texas who

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 6>going at coming into the year was probably an undrafted

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 6>free agent seventh round pick. He's probably squarely in the

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 6>middle rounds right now. I mean that that's one guy

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:59.879
<v Speaker 6>that stands out on the defensive line. There's a guy

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 6>like Derek Harmon at Oregon and who coming into the

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 6>year was a late round guy transfer from Michigan State.

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 6>He's playing great for the Ducks right now. He dropped

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 6>a ton of weight in the offseason, really looks like

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 6>a different player, and he's got himself. I mean there's

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 6>teams that have top one hundred grades on Derek Harmon

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 6>right now. That's a massive jump in one year to

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 6>go from you know, being a seventh round free agent

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 6>level player to a potential Day two player. That's a

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:27.399
<v Speaker 6>big jump. Those are a couple of names that really

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:29.879
<v Speaker 6>stand out. But I do think we could probably go

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 6>across the board and pick a guy probably in every

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 6>position group that's helped himself quite a bit.

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 1>We're at the real moment of the season now in

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 1>college football, these rivalry games, championship games coming up, bowl games,

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and even most importantly, the College Football Playoff upcoming. Give

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.359
<v Speaker 1>me some players that you think down the stretch as

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 1>the games get more spotlight, they could really help their

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five draft stock in November, December into January.

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 6>I would start at the quarterback position. I think, you know,

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 6>when you look at this year's quarterback class, I don't

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 6>know if any of these guys have played a completely

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.439
<v Speaker 6>clean season. I think there's I think there's been rough

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 6>patches for most of the guys in this class that

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 6>we've talked about. You know, Carson Back had a rough

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 6>patch in the first half against Alabama. He had ale

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:18.839
<v Speaker 6>other rough patch against Ole Miss. He was our top

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 6>great quarterback coming into the year. Had Carson Beck came

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:23.840
<v Speaker 6>out a year ago, I mean, it was he was

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:27.799
<v Speaker 6>trending towards being a first round pick. He just progressively

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 6>got better and better over the course of the year.

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 6>I think Carson needs to to, you know, if they

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 6>can get into the playoff at this point, make a

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:39.840
<v Speaker 6>nice run. You know, Quinn Yours has had a pretty

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.760
<v Speaker 6>good year this year, but he's had a rough patch.

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 6>Jalen Milrow all these so to me, really it's the

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:49.359
<v Speaker 6>quarterbacks and even cam Ward. You know, cam Ward has

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 6>played really good football this year. Has helped himself a lot,

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 6>you know, being outside of the air raid offense at

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 6>Washington State coming down here to Miami. But I really

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 6>look for this year's quarterback class. They're gonna need some

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.800
<v Speaker 6>performances down the stretch here in November December.

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:09.280
<v Speaker 4>Let's talk about Colorado wide receiver slash defensive back Travis Hunter,

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:13.240
<v Speaker 4>because if he enters the twenty twenty five NFL Draft,

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:15.720
<v Speaker 4>do you feel that he could be the best player

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 4>in the draft and also do you really believe that

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 4>he could play both ways in the National Football League.

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:24.839
<v Speaker 6>I'll start with the first part. He could definitely play

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 6>both ways. I think we're the league and what he's doing,

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 6>I'll just say this off the bat. What he's doing

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.360
<v Speaker 6>right now with the volume of snaps at the FBS

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 6>level is unheard of. You know, we've seen two way players.

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 6>They've seen Charles Woodson, we've seen Chant Bailey, you know,

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 6>going way back in time, but we've never seen players

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 6>log this amount of snaps. So to me, it just

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 6>to me, it's incredible toughness, it's incredible focus, it's incredible

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:53.879
<v Speaker 6>you know, durability, stamina, all those things outside of the talent. Right,

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 6>we all know how talented he is. I think we're

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 6>the league when they really start drilling down, everyone knows

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 6>Travis Hunter's first round player. What they really need to

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 6>figure out is how good is he at those two

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 6>respective positions? And then which one is he best at?

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 6>You know, it's incredible he's playing both, but what is

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 6>the ceiling at each position? What does that look like? It?

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 6>Is it Pro Bowl at both positions? Is it Pro

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 6>Bowl at one of the positions? Just just how good

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 6>is he at those two spots. So that's gonna be

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 6>for the teams drafting up high, they're gonna have to

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.799
<v Speaker 6>figure that out. I know for the Senior Bowl, we

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:31.400
<v Speaker 6>haven't spun our wheels watching a lot of Travis Hunter tape.

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:33.840
<v Speaker 6>If we were lucky enough to get him in mobile,

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 6>we'd love to have him. But I think that's gonna

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 6>be the conversation is, you know, do we play him

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 6>on defense full time and then spot play him on

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.359
<v Speaker 6>offense and try to, you know, manufacture five to ten

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 6>touches a game. That might be the route, but again,

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 6>I think that's that's what those teams drafting up high

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 6>are going to have to spend a lot of time on.

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Shohio Tani broke the sort of glass ceiling in baseball

0:39:56.120 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 1>for a guy doing two different things. Any thought, as

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>the NFL continue to evolve, that Travis Hunter could end

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:09.160
<v Speaker 1>up being almost the Otani komp if you will, to

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 1>somebody who plays more than just a couple of plays

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>on both sides of the ball.

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 6>I don't think so, Mike, I don't. I don't see

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 6>that happening. Just I mean, you guys see it too.

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:20.919
<v Speaker 6>I mean, if you go to a college football game

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:25.319
<v Speaker 6>on a Saturday and stand on the sidelines, even in

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.320
<v Speaker 6>the SEC or the Big Ten or the a SEC,

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 6>the Power four conferences, and then you go to a

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:32.959
<v Speaker 6>Titans game on a Sunday, it's a completely different level

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 6>of speed in violence, and I just I just don't

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 6>see a player lasting like that on both sides of

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 6>the balls. Is a full time two way player?

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 1>All right? Well, I just wanted to check because I

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 1>know I'd seen a couple of interviews with you where

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>you talked about Hunter and you had me convinced, you

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 1>had me convinced that he might have that possibility to

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 1>do more of both on both sides of the ball

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 1>than somebody in a long time. Let me move back

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>to the quarterbacks for a second. You hit on some

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 1>of the top ones, Jim, you in on some of

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 1>the guys who need to play well down the stretch.

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 1>As a group, do you like these quarterbacks?

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 6>I do?

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:11.319
<v Speaker 6>It's it's I can I think I can safely say

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:13.480
<v Speaker 6>it's not gonna be last year's class where we're gonna

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.400
<v Speaker 6>have six guys go in the top twelve. That was

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:17.879
<v Speaker 6>a pretty unique group and a lot of those guys

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:20.320
<v Speaker 6>are playing at a high level. Jayden Daniels, bow Nicks

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 6>are doing some really good things. Drake may is playing

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 6>really well for the Patriots now that he's gotten in there.

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 6>So I think those guys are proving themselves that that

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 6>was gonna be a really good class. I'm excited to see,

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 6>you know, in five years what that class pans out

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 6>to be. But I like the depth of the class.

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:41.799
<v Speaker 6>I'll say that they do need they do need to

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 6>put together a nice run here to kind of get

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:47.439
<v Speaker 6>up into that first dround conversation. Are any of these

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:49.919
<v Speaker 6>guys slam dunk first dround picks? I don't, I don't.

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:52.919
<v Speaker 6>I don't think so at this point. And then there's

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 6>some depth to the group too, you know, when we

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 6>worked down work down the line. I think there's gonna

0:41:57.520 --> 0:41:59.760
<v Speaker 6>be some guys, you know, in the in the middle

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 6>to eight range that are pretty intriguing players. But I

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:04.960
<v Speaker 6>don't think it stacks up to last year. I think

0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 6>there's potential there. I think if a couple of these

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 6>guys can get into the playoff and go on a

0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 6>nice run, they can kind of salvage you know, what

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 6>has been kind of a rocky season so far. But

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:19.040
<v Speaker 6>it's not up to last year's class. And you I mean,

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:22.719
<v Speaker 6>you know, just being fair to this year's class, I mean,

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 6>I don't know how many classes will measure up to

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:24.959
<v Speaker 6>last year.

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 4>Well, you mentioned bon Nicks, and he's had a pretty

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 4>solid year for Denver this year as a rookie, and

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 4>it's clear that his experience at Auburn and at Oregon

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:37.920
<v Speaker 4>seems to have helped him with the transition to the pros. So,

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:41.760
<v Speaker 4>thinking in that regard, is there a bon Knicks comp

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 4>in the twenty twenty five draft who has the experience

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 4>and will be a good player for a team in

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 4>their rookie year based on the experience that they've had

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:52.760
<v Speaker 4>in college.

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's a great question. Let's be fair. Both playing great.

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 6>Let's not like temper like they should have beat Kansas

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 6>City if they don't have a flue Bowl block. You know,

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:03.879
<v Speaker 6>like he's he's he's playing really good football out there,

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 6>you know, I mean they're you know, Dylan Gabriel from

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 6>Oregon is going to break his all time starts record

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 6>if he stays healthy down the stretch the year. Played

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 6>a ton of football. Now, he doesn't project to be

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 6>a first dround pick like bo was, but he certainly

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:19.359
<v Speaker 6>has the experience factor working for him. You can see

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 6>how efficient he is for for Oregon. You know, there's

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:24.879
<v Speaker 6>a number of these guys. You know, cam Ward's played

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 6>a ton of football going all the way back to

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 6>his time at Incarnate Word, you know, and then up

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 6>at Washington State, and he's played in Now he's played

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 6>in a couple of different systems and played with three

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 6>different groups of teammates, which I always think is cool.

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 6>I think, in three different parts of the country. So

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 6>I think that's cool for a player's resume, like just

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 6>like it was for Bo playing in the SEC and

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 6>going all the way up to the you know, out

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 6>to the Pacific Northwest. So I would say I would

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:50.800
<v Speaker 6>say guys like that. I said cam Ward, you know,

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 6>he's played a ton of football, and in Dylan Gabriel,

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:55.359
<v Speaker 6>and then you can go down the list the Will

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:58.839
<v Speaker 6>Howard at Ohio State and Tyler Shuck at Louisville's kind

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 6>of the sleeper name right now who playing really good

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:04.799
<v Speaker 6>for Louisville can throw the heck out of it. So yeah,

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 6>there's certainly some guys in this class that are that

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 6>are bow like in terms of the experience.

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 4>We've got to ask you about a Tennessee guy. His

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:13.919
<v Speaker 4>stats aren't really through the roof, but are you still

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:15.760
<v Speaker 4>impressed with edge James Pearce.

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:19.720
<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, No, absolutely, I think people were picking James apart

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.439
<v Speaker 6>a little bit early in the year. I mean, let's

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:24.800
<v Speaker 6>face it, he's coming off a year with double digit sacks.

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 6>There's a couple guys in college football this year like

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 6>Ashton Jelattie up the road from you guys Oble up

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:33.840
<v Speaker 6>by sixty five. I mean, he was another double digit

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:36.959
<v Speaker 6>sack guy. And when when coordinators have an off season

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:38.919
<v Speaker 6>to sit around and kind of look at the schedule. Okay,

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 6>who's on the schedule this year? Who do we got

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 6>to get ready for. I just think they threw a

0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:46.680
<v Speaker 6>lot of James Pierce's way in terms of, like you know,

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 6>sliding protection and chip blocks and you know, just just

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 6>running a lot more people at him before he had

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:53.319
<v Speaker 6>a chance to get to the quarterback. So I think

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 6>he was just learning how to deal with all the

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 6>extra attention early on. I mean, they do a great

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 6>job up front in terms of like running him off

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:04.359
<v Speaker 6>people like they did when Byron Young was there. I mean,

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:06.760
<v Speaker 6>we've seen what be Wise become as an NFL player.

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 6>I think that's gonna help James Pierce. But you know,

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 6>they're different body types. James Pierce is a longer guy.

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 6>But what they have in common they're both very bendy

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.239
<v Speaker 6>and they work off other people really well, and that's

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 6>what that's what they've done, and you've seen like the

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 6>pressure rates have gone up over the course of the

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 6>season for James. So again, I was talking to an

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:28.240
<v Speaker 6>agent the other day who's in the mix for representing

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 6>James Pierce, and we just had the conversation what this

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:33.320
<v Speaker 6>guy would look like in one on one drills of

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 6>the Senior Bowl when he's only got one guy trying

0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:37.719
<v Speaker 6>to block him. I think he would make I think

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 6>he would make a lot of money. The agent actually,

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 6>he brought up the name Von Miller and what von

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 6>Miller did at the Senior Bowl back in the day

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:46.359
<v Speaker 6>in one on one. So so, yeah, we're still big

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 6>James s peers fans down here in Mobile.

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you a senior bold insight question, Jim,

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 1>why do you guys always end up with so many

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 1>outstanding pass rushers there in Mobile? I don't know.

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 6>Oh, I guess we get lucky.

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean we're trying to do We're trying to

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:05.760
<v Speaker 1>we're trying to bring the best players.

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:09.439
<v Speaker 6>Mike, and I do think the agent community is bought

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 6>into what the one on ones can do for both

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 6>the offensive line and the defensive lines. I think. I

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 6>think I think both groups understand if they come to

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:20.600
<v Speaker 6>mobile and they again, if you're a pass rusher, it's

0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 6>not like you have to win every single rep. To me,

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:25.959
<v Speaker 6>I've always told I've always told guys because I've seen

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 6>this in draft rooms. I mean, if these guys put

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 6>two or three good rushes on tape, similar to like

0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:33.879
<v Speaker 6>Tovandre Sweat. You know he took bo Limmer last year.

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:35.759
<v Speaker 6>Who's that now the starting center for the l A

0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 6>Rams and he just picked him up and walked him

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 6>back to the quarterback. And I mean, you you make

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:43.319
<v Speaker 6>some plays like that and you plant the seed in

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 6>a defensive line coach's mind that, oh my god, this

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 6>is what I could work with, and those guys get

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:51.279
<v Speaker 6>all fired up about the potential of what they could

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 6>make a player. So again, if the agents and the

0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 6>and the players know they only have to have a

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 6>handful of decent reps over the over the week to

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 6>move the needle, it's easy to get those skys bought

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:02.439
<v Speaker 6>into come into the game.

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Last question, Uh. In the NFL this year, defense has

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 1>had a great start to the season, a first two

0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 1>plus months where defense has been more dominant than it

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:15.719
<v Speaker 1>has been in years. Jim, we're seeing the same thing

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 1>in college football. They're more good defensive teams than there

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 1>have been in recent years. What do you think the

0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 1>trend is overall with defense that has enabled them at

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:31.879
<v Speaker 1>the college level onto the pro level to step up.

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:35.239
<v Speaker 1>How they're getting after offenses that quite frankly for about

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:37.799
<v Speaker 1>ten years felt like they were got they worked them over.

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:41.839
<v Speaker 6>That's a great question, Geez. I would say a couple

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:44.120
<v Speaker 6>of things. One, I think we're seeing faster players on

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 6>the defensive side of the ball, especially at linebacker. You're

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 6>just seeing you're seeing a new wave of linebacker that

0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:53.080
<v Speaker 6>you know, we're kind of weeding out the guys that

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.279
<v Speaker 6>can't run or playing space. So you're seeing like like

0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:58.879
<v Speaker 6>you guys have drafted a couple over the last couple

0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:01.719
<v Speaker 6>of years. You speed at linebackers is a big deal.

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:03.879
<v Speaker 6>It's becoming more of a space game. Everyone knows that.

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:07.359
<v Speaker 6>And then I you know, at the college level, I

0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 6>do think the transfer portal is hurting offenses, don't. I

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 6>think offensive execution is down because you're seeing so many

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:17.640
<v Speaker 6>players on the move, and that's not that's not a

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:20.879
<v Speaker 6>great thing for like continuity purposes or whatnot. So, and

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:23.120
<v Speaker 6>it's not just players on the move, it's coaches on

0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 6>the move too, right. I mean, we're seeing that it's

0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:28.200
<v Speaker 6>just a everyone. There's just moving parts all the time.

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:29.879
<v Speaker 6>You can't even keep up with it. In the off season.

0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:31.440
<v Speaker 6>We don't even know where these players are going to

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 6>end up playing. We start watching them in the spring

0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 6>and they're at one school, and then we get to

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:38.480
<v Speaker 6>August and they're they's somewhere else. So I would think

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 6>those those are probably the two factors that just off

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 6>the top of my head. That's a that's a great question,

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 6>though I would love to have more time to think

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:45.880
<v Speaker 6>about that one.

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:49.480
<v Speaker 1>We love having you on in November. You are so

0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 1>kind to give us our first taste because you know,

0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 1>in this part of the country, our fan base loves

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 1>the high school recruiting little nuts over that here in

0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:02.720
<v Speaker 1>the Southeast and have gotten just as nuts over the draft,

0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:06.400
<v Speaker 1>which is so much fun when we come to Mobile

0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:09.239
<v Speaker 1>to see people around who have that same sort of

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:13.840
<v Speaker 1>enthusiasm at the stories and the hope for the future

0:49:13.880 --> 0:49:16.799
<v Speaker 1>with their team and needs and whatever. I mean, it's

0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:20.240
<v Speaker 1>really it's really become a special thing for the NFL

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 1>fans in the Southeast. So thank you so much.

0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:25.240
<v Speaker 6>No, thank you guys for having me on and it

0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 6>for you guys. I mean it probably stemmed from when

0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:29.319
<v Speaker 6>you hosted the Draft you know whatever.

0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 1>That was five years ago.

0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:33.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean I was up there for it working

0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 6>for ESPN. It was unbelievable, and I think you're right.

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:39.239
<v Speaker 6>I think the stories. You know, they did the Hard

0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 6>Knocks this past spring with the Giants, and you know

0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:44.920
<v Speaker 6>that series seemed like it was tailing off a little

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:48.200
<v Speaker 6>bit doing the end season, you know, training camp stuff.

0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 6>We'd seen that over and over and over talking to

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 6>the guys that did the Giants Hard Knocks. I mean,

0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:58.280
<v Speaker 6>people are captivated by it. They're captivated by the draft process.

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 6>And if you have a team that you know, struggling,

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:03.360
<v Speaker 6>like you said, it's on draft days like Christmas morning,

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:07.440
<v Speaker 6>it gives you some hope. So yeah, we just appreciate

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:10.560
<v Speaker 6>you guys coming down and spending spending the weekend mobile

0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 6>with us every January. We look forward to have you

0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 6>every year. We do.

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 1>We love it. Jim Nagy, executive director of the Reese

0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Senior Both, thank you so much for your time. We

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:21.080
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<v Speaker 1>it's time to get to the fast break portion of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Got ramone Foster. You know they had Little

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Caesar's pizza in here yesterday they did.

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<v Speaker 3>It was faked out.

0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a box, yeah.

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Speaker 3>Because I thought someone moved our boxes.

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:22.480
<v Speaker 1>So I'm walking out of here at seven thirty and

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I was like, all those boxes, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, and remember to grab them.

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Here's a these boxes are empty.

0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:29.200
<v Speaker 3>There's no pizza.

0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:33.239
<v Speaker 1>There's no pizza. So they they got two boxes laying there,

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:35.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking at first, Oh, they've put our boxes

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:40.000
<v Speaker 1>out for the OTP for tomorrow. Yeah, so I just

0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 1>go by, got my backpack on walk into the cargo.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, there's still pizza there.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, right left the building.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I love cold pizza. All right, It's time

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Key number one. Keep going with the plays in

0:51:59.840 --> 0:52:02.719
<v Speaker 1>the passing game. Ninety eight yard touchdowns are great, but yes,

0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 1>they're currently every sixty two years. So we the Titans

0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:09.239
<v Speaker 1>will have to take all of the fifteen yard completions,

0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the twenty yarders, the thirty yarders, the forty yard touchdowns.

0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:14.800
<v Speaker 1>We'll take them all. In the last two games, solid

0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:17.520
<v Speaker 1>gains in the passing game been showing up more and more.

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Titans need more of them. Sunday in Houston, Key number

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<v Speaker 1>two finished the job on the quarterback. Jeffrey Simmons had

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:28.640
<v Speaker 1>six quarterback pressures against Minnesota to Andre Sweat five Arden

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Key had four. Pressure was real and yet only two sacks.

0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Coach Brian Callahan said the key to turning pressures into

0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:40.360
<v Speaker 1>sacks is staying in rushing lanes. Keep collapsing the pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't let the passer escape. Do that. With last week's

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:47.319
<v Speaker 1>pressure on CJ. Stroud and I bet the sacks will come.

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Key number three. Keep getting big plays up and down

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the roster, especially from the youngsters. The Titans are having

0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:57.120
<v Speaker 1>more and more players show up in the box score

0:52:57.200 --> 0:53:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Jarvis Brownlee and Darryl Baker in the secondary, Deviandre Sweatin

0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the defensive line, Bryce Oliver and Jakwan Jackson at receiver

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:07.840
<v Speaker 1>and on special teams. As this roster expands with guys

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:10.920
<v Speaker 1>who now have experience and confidence to make a play,

0:53:11.360 --> 0:53:14.960
<v Speaker 1>those youngsters need to keep showing up. Their contributions can

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<v Speaker 1>be the difference in potentially pulling out a road wind

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>I never assume.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually they send out like a memo, hey we get pizza.

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<v Speaker 3>Get some just so sticky on it or get No,

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<v Speaker 3>they did it.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't miss that. They checked. We don't miss those

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<v Speaker 1>remote We missed the ones about meetings and hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to go get a flu shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it time they change? But you read that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot now. They need to change that up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>They shake it up, you know on the Will Levis commercials.

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<v Speaker 3>I try and give it a little I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean it's got a pizzazz.

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<v Speaker 3>I try to add a little little something.

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<v Speaker 1>Little that was good the last time. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how important is Helman's in the coming week with all

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<v Speaker 4>I was actually going to take that giant car. You

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<v Speaker 4>can't because I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Need it to the ot people. Get some Helmans this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Just you're going to the grocery store this weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna need it, just pick it up, you put it

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're just going by and you think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just going to grab that because I'm going to need

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<v Speaker 1>you are going you will thank us on the next OTP.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not in the weeds. I mean, this was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of hardcore football stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Next week, let's just talk about what everyone ain't for Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not because it would take too long. With me,

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you kind of do a big thing. I

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of have my my standbys.

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<v Speaker 2>You.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's good, it's great. It's like all the classics.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been telling everybody. Listen, I've yet to have green

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<v Speaker 2>bean castle all I like love it, never had it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to make it and bring it to.

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<v Speaker 1>Your there is we're neighbors. Basically, there is nothing Thanksgiving wise.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I turned down nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so, even Cranberry person Cranberry.

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<v Speaker 1>But but part of it is if you offered it

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<v Speaker 1>to me on May the seventh, probably not, But on Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm up everything. Get that hot fruit salad delicious made

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<v Speaker 1>with like cheese. It's and I never heard of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>That that Yang and yang right there actually sounds pretty

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<v Speaker 2>so good all of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I like anything put in jello, so really it's

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<v Speaker 4>big holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>Do that Thanksgiving you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can put a lot of stuff in jello.

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<v Speaker 1>Again on January eighth, not a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad you went up to January eighth because

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<v Speaker 2>my birthday January seventh, we'll celebrate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you early.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just lord, you've never had green bean castro, never

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<v Speaker 4>had it to make it in the microwave.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and then I'm like Mike though, like I have

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<v Speaker 2>like my Thanksgiving things, and like I've seen it at

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<v Speaker 2>people house, like coaches cook for us on the holidays

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<v Speaker 2>and college and stuff like that, and I just pass

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<v Speaker 2>it by because I probably want more turkey or moral asaigna.

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<v Speaker 1>Or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>It has a weird look to it, but you've got

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<v Speaker 4>to dive in anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm for you. Lasagna very underrated it thanks yeah what yeah? Amy,

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<v Speaker 1>very under It shows up and you're like, oh, here's

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<v Speaker 1>no zigna.

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<v Speaker 5>Can some of that just feel like competing mains to me,

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<v Speaker 5>have turkey and a lazagna?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not? South what you talking about turkey and lasagna?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe even together? I mean, because you can mix it

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<v Speaker 1>all together. And it's just what if I this year,

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<v Speaker 1>people would love you more. They will, they appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's even possible.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it sure is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I need every little bit I can. You do, every

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<v Speaker 5>little morsel.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Ramone, thank you anytime, anytime. Don't say

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<v Speaker 1>that we have to do the one next week early. Seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for joining us for the OTP pre game,

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<v Speaker 1>for a Ramone foster and the Snickers ide seat and

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<v Speaker 1>Amy Wells. I might keep thank you to the ot people.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go beat Houston. Thanks for joining us for the

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<v Speaker 1>ot