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Speaker 1: What's up, met stub listeners back here for episode number

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Speaker 1: seventy of the met stub podcast. Of course, I'm your

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Speaker 1: co host Draftnick Mark, Mark Luino here with James Chiano

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Speaker 1: Jeter had no range talking about everything New York Mets baseball,

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Speaker 1: and while we did tease last episode, today we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be talking about Once upon a Time in Queens, we

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Speaker 1: so we figured we'll push it back another week, Like

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Speaker 1: what's that really gonna do for us? That's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a rainy day kind of episode when we got nothing

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Speaker 1: We got a hitting coach, we got a first base coach,

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Speaker 1: Nimo just became a Scott Boris client. So we got

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Speaker 1: a little bit of everything, nothing too particularly important, but

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Speaker 1: I think that's the perfect time to bring in James. James,

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Speaker 1: how you doing, man, how's it been. It's been a week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a week. We actually had a conversation

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Speaker 2: and it does feel long. I like, how you inentered this? Like,

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Speaker 2: we have so much to talk about, and we're talking

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Speaker 1: Dude, that's just the minute shit. We love as like

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Speaker 2: And we're going to start that out with the one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's third base, which.

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Speaker 2: Nice definitely, And something that you've talked about a lot,

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Speaker 2: Even another funny story about Joey Korray Joeyk Coorrey a

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Speaker 1: That's so crazy.

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Speaker 2: Guy was charged.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, stabbed something.

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Speaker 1: That's insane. He got stabbed. Oh, that's that's a ton

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Speaker 1: You know, that's something that's just a little chip on shoulder.

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Speaker 2: And Clint Hurdle is a guy I've talked about a

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Speaker 2: Either way, Joey Corr was in the middle of said fight.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's big that the Mets. I don't even

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Speaker 1: No Dave Jobs sitting on the bench now, stay away.

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Speaker 1: He's in good ship. And he's a guy too that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, fuck that, let's let's spend money. It's not

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Speaker 2: And it's just funny when you take a guy like

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Speaker 1: Of course too. And it's not like Eric Shavia as well,

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Speaker 1: It's for good reason. Like this guy was a very

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Speaker 2: he's gonna make a impack in this organization. But he

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Speaker 2: doesn't have the same acumen on the field that Eric

437
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Speaker 2: Chavez does, and I think that is going to be

438
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Speaker 2: an important Also, this is a funny quote just in

439
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Speaker 2: December when Shav was interviewing with the Yankees, Aaron Bowen

440
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Speaker 2: afterwards said that in a lot of ways he blew

441
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Speaker 2: me away. He's got a really good perspective of the game.

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Speaker 2: He's very open minded. I was just thinking, like, what

443
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Speaker 2: do you have to do to blow Aaron Boone away?

444
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Speaker 2: Like you have to walk and chew comb at the

445
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Speaker 2: same time, Like what kind of ubsentities you have to

446
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Speaker 2: say to make Aaron Boone like think, oh my god,

447
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Speaker 2: this is the guy. Like how like Brett Gardner blows

448
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Speaker 2: Aaron Boone away three times a week? Like that was

449
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Speaker 2: the one thing that kind of took took away the

450
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Speaker 2: shot and shine for me. But I will take it

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Speaker 2: with a grain of salt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think I think that was more so uh,

453
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Speaker 1: lip service and trying to just you know, give the

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Speaker 1: news a little bit of a sound bite there, because

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Speaker 1: I'm I can't a hitting coach blugs someone away. Feels

456
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Speaker 1: kind of kind of like almost just hyperbole in a sense.

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Speaker 2: Assistant hitting coach at the time, he would have been

458
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Speaker 2: the Yankees assistant to the hitting coach. They have a

459
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Speaker 2: hitting coach, so we gave him an automatic promotion off

460
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Speaker 2: the bat bang without ever seeing him in a major

461
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Speaker 2: league dugout. Ever, because he was a special assistant to

462
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Speaker 2: the general manager, he was more in a front office role,

463
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Speaker 2: and then he was on a minor league bench, which

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Speaker 2: take that as you will. We don't. I don't cat.

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Speaker 2: It's really bizarre that he kind of left the Bees

466
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Speaker 2: and the Angels organization hasn't done anything for three years,

467
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Speaker 2: and it's kind of in retrospect, kind of cool looking back,

468
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Speaker 2: because he got a nice year and a half off

469
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Speaker 2: before COVID and they had COVID to relax and I

470
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Speaker 2: was ready to get into to his craft and he

471
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Speaker 2: just seems he was a hot commodity and I'm happy

472
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Speaker 2: we have him in a leadership role.

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Speaker 1: To be fair, I think part of that was he's

474
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Speaker 1: a big appler guy. Him and Billy real close, real tight.

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Speaker 1: That's like his kind of guy. And apparently there's just

476
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Speaker 1: not a lot of freedom over there in the Angels

477
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Speaker 1: organization during that time. So it was more so of like,

478
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Speaker 1: let me get out of here because this is a

479
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Speaker 1: bad scenario that it's currently in. Let me go somewhere else,

480
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Speaker 1: let me take some time off, And it ended up

481
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Speaker 1: being probably a good decision for me. He went from

482
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Speaker 1: being an interroom triple A manager to the hitting coach

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Speaker 1: of the New York Mets.

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Speaker 2: And truly he kind of went in hyperdrive for like

485
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Speaker 2: the hiring process because he got a promotion in a month,

486
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Speaker 2: Like who gets a job and gets promoted in a month?

487
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Speaker 2: He got a new title, a raise.

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Speaker 1: Usually with the Mets were used to the firing within

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Speaker 1: a month, hiring within a month.

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Speaker 2: That's true too, straight off seasons. So one of these

491
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Speaker 2: guys not gonna make it to the season with the team.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who's gonna be. Who's gonna be guy,

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Speaker 2: We'll we'll do a poll later. But then the one

494
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Speaker 2: role the Mets still have to fill, which is like

495
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Speaker 2: that transition, is the bench coach and They've been blocked

496
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Speaker 2: this week from a few young, sharp minded bench coaches.

497
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Speaker 2: Ryan Flaherty with the Padres, who show Walter was like

498
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Speaker 2: that was like his right hand man apparently with those

499
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Speaker 2: Orioles teams. And Andrew Bailey with the Giants, who like,

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Speaker 2: I think the fact that you're gonna be going from

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Speaker 2: like a pitching coach to a bench coach, says wonders

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Speaker 2: about what Andrew Bailey's baseball mind is, Like.

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Speaker 1: I was just about to ask that Andrew Bailey, that

504
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Speaker 1: is the rookie of the year reliever right with the

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Speaker 1: A's Andrew Bailey who just kind of fell off a cliff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then did you get traded to the Red

507
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Speaker 2: Sox and the arm was never the same something like.

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Speaker 1: That, Yeah, something along those lines, like he literally had

509
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Speaker 1: like that one year and then that was kind of it.

510
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Speaker 1: But he was great, and I knew. I saw him

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Speaker 1: last year with the Giants as a pitching coach and went, oh,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Bailey, that's a young guy, Like he's like thirty

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Speaker 1: four or thirty five. I think makes sense we got

514
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Speaker 1: denied him. If you're a smart organization, you want him

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Speaker 1: around definitely.

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Speaker 2: And he's actually only thirty seven. He's a South Jersey

517
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Speaker 2: guy like he apparently he grew up a Mets fan.

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Speaker 2: This would have been something that would have been an

519
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Speaker 2: important job for him.

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Speaker 1: That would have been cool. And then Ryan Flaherty, when

521
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Speaker 1: you say that he was Buck show Walter's right hand

522
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Speaker 1: man when he was with the Orioles, I couldn't have

523
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Speaker 1: picked a more perfect player for Buck Show Walter to love.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Flaherty is just so insignificant as a player, it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: But as a coach, as a bench guy, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: he'd be great, oh.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, And he has been credited with a lot of

528
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Speaker 2: doing whatever he can to take the Padres into the

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Speaker 2: future over the last few years. As much as Chase

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Speaker 2: Tangler would have resented that notion, God, but I think

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Speaker 2: it's just it is a good thing that the Mets

532
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Speaker 2: are looking at young cutting edge guys in their thirties

533
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Speaker 2: to be stand next to buckshow Walter and be on

534
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Speaker 2: this betch. It shows that everyone's very open minded. The

535
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Speaker 2: things that we were concerned about with Bucket probably unfounded,

536
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Speaker 2: and that there's a good chance that we do end

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Speaker 2: up having one of the most cerebral and knowledgeable and

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Speaker 2: active coaching staffs in all of baseball, especially the National

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Speaker 2: League East.

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Speaker 1: Did you see Andy Martino's tweet from yesterday or two

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Speaker 1: days ago. No, it is laugh out loud funny, and

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Speaker 1: it's about the bench coach thing. Let me pull it

543
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Speaker 1: up for you here real quick and read it out

544
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Speaker 1: to you because it's you know, we like to clown

545
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Speaker 1: on Andy Martino, and for good reason. I mean, he

546
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Speaker 1: is a clown. He's just it's incredible that he gets

547
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Speaker 1: paid money. But this tweet is the perfect example of

548
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Speaker 1: why everyone on rags on Andy Martino. And here it is.

549
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Speaker 1: The Mets have honed in on a bench coach. I

550
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Speaker 1: don't have the name, but they'll wait to announce the

551
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Speaker 1: entire staff at once after selecting their assistant pitching slash

552
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Speaker 1: bullpen coach and assistant hitting coach. But yeah, bench coach

553
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Speaker 1: seems set and he goes, don't spend your day speculating.

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Speaker 1: I don't planned on it. Eric Schavis is almost certainly

555
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Speaker 1: the highest profile name on the STAF, so like, there

556
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Speaker 1: is a little insight there. But also this dude literally

557
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Speaker 1: says they have a guy. I don't know who it is.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a name. I have no clue, but

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing they have a guy. It's like the classic like,

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Speaker 1: well you know, I know of a guy who knows

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Speaker 1: of a guy. It's like he's such a a shaky reporter.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: No, my girlfriend's really real. She just goes to a

564
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Speaker 2: different school.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I tell you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she lives in Canada. I can't see her. You

567
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Speaker 2: know about my dad's immigration issues.

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Speaker 1: It's just a ridiculous tweet. Andy Martineau, he's keeping it

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Speaker 1: up strong. Good to see that in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Also, just in terms of the Andy martine and the

571
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Speaker 2: way this bench coach search is being portrayed now in

572
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Speaker 2: the media, there's nothing to talk about. It's dry out there.

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Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal's written two articles about the Mets failing to

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Speaker 2: hire a bench coach. Like a lot of people have

575
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Speaker 2: been tweeting about permission being blocked. This isn't like the

576
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Speaker 2: general manager thing being blocked. This is now like we're

577
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Speaker 2: after the new year. Like generally, if it was a

578
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Speaker 2: normal we'd be three weeks away from pitching pitchers and catchers.

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Speaker 2: You would be a stone cold fool to allow coach

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Speaker 2: on your major league staff. Right now to go coach

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Speaker 2: on someone else's major league staff, like you are ramping up,

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Speaker 2: like theoretically, like everyone still has to be planning as

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Speaker 2: if we're gonna have a normal ramp up. I know

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Speaker 2: we're not going to, which that's kind of sad, But

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Speaker 2: you can't let a guy go at this point in

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Speaker 2: the game, like the Mets A probably you have to

587
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Speaker 2: hire someone who's not in a staff right now, or

588
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Speaker 2: someone who's like well below the pecking order with the team.

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Speaker 2: Would just feel really bad about denying for a role.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, cause if you're the Giants, you're not trying to

591
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Speaker 1: find a new pitching coach right now.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't even imagine the Giants trying to find a

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Speaker 2: new pitching coach right now. They're in the doorstep of

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Speaker 2: a World Series. You're gonna let the guy walk out

595
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Speaker 2: the door in no way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's absolutely nuts. And of course, you know, the

597
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Speaker 1: media running wild with it, as they do with anything

598
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Speaker 1: New York Mets related. And then in terms of news,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there isn't too much else here. There's been

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Speaker 1: some rumors and stuff, and we ask you guys to

601
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Speaker 1: you know, send us questions on Twitter and in all

602
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: our social media. We got a few. The two most

603
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Speaker 1: popular are going to be about Brandon Neimo switching to

604
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Speaker 1: Scott Boris as his agent, which is huge, huge news

605
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Speaker 1: on a free agencies and coming up here for Nimo,

606
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Speaker 1: And then about the dh possibility because the Mets could

607
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Speaker 1: be after some guys on the market. Kyle Schwarbers Navy

608
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Speaker 1: has been thrown around a little bit. We'll get more

609
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Speaker 1: in depth into that, but let's talk about Nimo and

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Speaker 1: Scott Boris first, because I think that's probably the most

611
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Speaker 1: interesting one really right now with the Mets, because that

612
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Speaker 1: is a legitimate concern. We had been talking about how

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Speaker 1: we want Nimo to sign, you know, this team friendly extension.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's gone, it's out the window. It's not happening.

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Speaker 2: Concern is not the worst. There's an unmitigated disaster for

616
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Speaker 2: the Mets. That's Brandon Neimo. Just one with Scott Borys.

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Speaker 2: You guarantee that we're not getting an extension now off

618
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Speaker 2: the bat, one hundred percent is not happening. You signed

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Speaker 2: Scott Boris because you don't wind the extension. Because policy

620
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Speaker 2: is no extensions. We test the open market. So that's

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Speaker 2: a of the question. Gonzo done deal.

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Speaker 1: That being said, though, I will say that Scott Boris

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Speaker 1: and the Mets seem to have a pretty good relationship

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Speaker 1: now with that Max Scherzer thing. When you sign a

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Speaker 1: thirty seven, thirty eight year old pitcher to the biggest contract,

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's it's at least a little bit

627
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Speaker 1: of a closer bridge than there once was with Mets

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Speaker 1: and Boris.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say good relationship. I would say

630
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Speaker 2: finding your opportunities where they are presented. Like Scott Boris

631
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Speaker 2: is very aware of who the richest man in baseball is,

632
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Speaker 2: and if I was Scott Boris, I would do anything

633
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Speaker 2: I could to close you up too. Again, the richest

634
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Speaker 2: man in all of baseball, Like, there's no reason for

635
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Speaker 2: Scott Boris not to, for his own sake and his

636
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: own business, to do as well as possible not to

637
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Speaker 2: have as good relationship as humanly possible with the guy

638
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Speaker 2: with fourteen billion dollars over here, who's trying to win

639
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Speaker 2: a World Series in the next two to four years.

640
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Speaker 2: Like that just makes sense. And the way that Nimo

641
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Speaker 2: switching to Boris, it kind of leads me to believe

642
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Speaker 2: that maybe there was some type of a failed negotiation

643
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Speaker 2: or something wasn't going the way he wanted it to

644
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Speaker 2: be going, you know what I mean, Like you switch

645
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Speaker 2: to Scott Boris when you kind of want to become

646
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Speaker 2: a killer, Like you don't hire Scott Boris if you

647
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Speaker 2: want to be an easygoing guy like Nimo. You want

648
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Speaker 2: to smile, you want to hang out like, That's not

649
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Speaker 2: what Scott bors The agency does, like you extract every

650
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: single dollar value out of your production until the end

651
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Speaker 2: of time. So this kind of leads me to believe

652
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: that there probably was some kind of I don't want

653
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: to say fracture, but probably some type of at least

654
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 2: like crack in what was going on with Nemo and

655
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: the Mets to make him go Boris at this stage.

656
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I mean, he was with CIA too,

657
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: so it's not like he was with one of the

658
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: like a little guy either is with one of the

659
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: three biggest agencies in baseball right now. So I think

660
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: it's more so I don't think it speaks more to

661
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: the Nemo Mets relationship, but more so to Neimo wanting

662
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: the most money and he probably felt like his agency

663
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: was looking to get too much of a discount. I'm

664
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: guessing or trying not trying hard enough to get him

665
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: the most money. I think that's more so what it is.

666
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: And Nemo's on the Mets too. He just saw Max

667
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: Schurzer sign for forty million dollars. I'm sure he's like, wait,

668
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm really good, and I'm hearing more and more people

669
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: talk about how I'm one of the best leadoff hitters

670
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: in baseball, you know, around the league. I should get paid.

671
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: I should get big money. I played center field great

672
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: last year, Like, there's no reason I shouldn't be getting

673
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: the money. Starling Marte just got at the absolute minimum.

674
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: Definitely, when you look at Nimo's arbitration numbers in terms

675
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: of other players with similar like I don't want to

676
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: say production because Nimo has not been on the field

677
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 2: to that kind of production, but similar rate stats. He

678
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: only made two one million his first year of our

679
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: and last year four point seven. This year he's projected

680
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: somewhere between five point eight and like six point three.

681
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,239
Speaker 2: But that isn't aren't really the types of numbers that

682
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: you would think for a guy who is as well

683
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 2: respected among smart baseball circles as Brandon Nemo and I

684
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 2: think that he's a guy who can literally have one

685
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 2: year where he plays even one hundred and thirty games

686
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: this season, probably fifty of them in center field at

687
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: a reasonable with reasonable defense to boot, and he could

688
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 2: be a guy who signs one hundred million dollar contract.

689
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding about that. Like this almost guarantees

690
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: that brand Nemo is gonna plays last year with the

691
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: Mets if he plays well, like Nimo's either gonna have

692
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: a good year and leave or have another Nemo year

693
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: and then we'll see.

694
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 1: Yeah. And like you said, like him playing centerfield's huge too,

695
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: because we know the center field market is always so

696
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: so hard to come by. And not that I'm sure

697
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: he's pissed that he's playing the corner with the Mets.

698
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a problem, but he definitely knows

699
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: that if he markets himself as a center fielder or

700
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: teams go after him as a center fielder, it's gonna

701
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: be hard to beat what you can get out of

702
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: Brandon Nemo right now.

703
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 2: And I think that ship is already sales because them

704
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: has already put one good year of centerfield defense, both

705
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 2: numbers wise and eye test wise. Like out there in

706
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: the in the world right now, it's kind of like

707
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: when a quarterback has a few good games and then

708
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: they immediately get that massive contract. You think about Matt Flyinn,

709
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: brock Oswiler, brock Oswiler, Mat Flin, Chase Daniel, Like Matt

710
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: Flyin threw four hundred yards in one game and signed

711
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: like a thirty million dollar contract or forty or fifty

712
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: or whatever it was, just because you saw him play

713
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: quarterback good one time, Like Nimo can play no center

714
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: field this year, and you can go into free agency

715
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: next year as someone who's thirty and say, I can

716
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: I have two good years of center field in me.

717
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: So you have to pay me for two good years

718
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: of center field because that's what I can do. And

719
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: I know you need that because almost every team baseball

720
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 2: and needs a center fielder all the time.

721
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's definitely gonna make Nimo if we are

722
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: gonna bring him back, just a little bit more expensive.

723
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: No more, no more cheap discount. No, there's no more

724
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: secret about how good Brandon Nemo is. Scott Boris signed

725
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: him as a client.

726
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: No, that's that's officially put his name on the map.

727
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: And then in terms of some other free agency stuff here,

728
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: the potential DH question came up. Because it's like, you know,

729
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: always gonna be talked about here with the new CBA.

730
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: Whether or not there will be a DH that's still

731
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: up in the air. But there are some options that

732
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: the Mets have internally that makes sense. And then there

733
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: are also some options that have been thrown around on

734
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: the market, like Kyle Schwarber, who would also be good players.

735
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: But did they fit Nelson Cruise too. I've heard Nelson

736
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 2: Cruse his name way more than I ever thought possible

737
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: with the Mets, And I don't know, I wrote a

738
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 2: lot of notes about this because I don't really like

739
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: the discourse going on with the Mets DH right now.

740
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: I just think the entire conversation is completely flawed because,

741
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: first of all, you mentioned it, there's literally no guarantee

742
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 2: whatsoever that there's gonna be a nationally DH and new CPA,

743
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: And we're kind of at the point right now where

744
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: if I were a betting man, betting was legalized in

745
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: New York last week, MARKNNA had a Fun Day of

746
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: Gambling January eighth. January eighth gambling Day for all New

747
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: Yorkers are gonna celebrate every year, so everyone be aware

748
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: of that. But if I were to place a bet

749
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: right now on whether there will be a DH in

750
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: National League next year or not, I would probably lean U.

751
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: As crazy as that might sound, how different that is

752
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: from most of the things that we've seen otherwise, just

753
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: because like I can't really see obviously who benefits more

754
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: between the players and the owners from there being a

755
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: national DH.

756
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: See. I think it's more so of a piece that

757
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: they can both agree on and help lead them to

758
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: getting more compromised because I think they both want the DH.

759
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: I think players and owners want DH. So why would

760
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: they not just agree to.

761
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: That, because then you're giving up power in the power

762
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: struggle because someone has to say first that they want

763
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: the DH. We can't be like one two three DH,

764
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: Like that's not how it works, like someone for you,

765
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: These two play people are gonna these two groups are

766
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: going to have to come to the table with something,

767
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: and it's not likely that there's gonna be such a

768
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: joyous negotiation. But like, oh DH, throw it in. We

769
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: both like it, like both people want it to a

770
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: certain degree, but not enough to make any concessions for it,

771
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: like the owners. I heard this argument from Ino Saras

772
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: and Twilia. They kind of was a brain blast for me,

773
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: but they probably want this more because they have so

774
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: much money invested in pictures and there's so many few pictures.

775
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: Like you, you lose a picture and like your season

776
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: could be over if it's the wrong picture. We saw

777
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: the Mets last year with Jacob de Gram, and Jacob

778
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: de Gram arguably could have gotten hurt swinging a bat.

779
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: Zach Gallum last year got hurt swinging a bat. We've

780
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: seen Massa hero Tanaki get hurt on the base pads.

781
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: You almost want those guys not on the base passer.

782
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: I have to play as much as possible, even more

783
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: so than what the players Union could gain from there

784
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: being a full time like a universal DH, just because

785
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: you get a couple extra jobs that aren't really that valuable,

786
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: Like how much is a player can't really play the

787
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: field signed for in modern baseball? It's not that much.

788
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: It's really justin Nelson Cruz and his market the last

789
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: few years has been suppressed, even though he's been literally

790
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: one of the best hitters in baseball.

791
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: Do you feel that though opening up the DH to

792
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: the National League and you know, fifteen more teams, it

793
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: almost makes the DH a more coveted position, So wouldn't

794
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,239
Speaker 1: there be more valuing guys that are actually good at it?

795
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: Though the thing is that is kind of also flawed logic,

796
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: because to be a good DH means you have to

797
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: be really bad at something else. And we've seen kind

798
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: of the smartest teams in baseball in the American League

799
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: have more success when that DH is more of a

800
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: revolving door than someone who stands there every day. Like

801
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: David Lortiz is the player everybody talks about, and that

802
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: was all good and well, but he won was a

803
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame type of bat like though hitter's like

804
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 2: David Loertiz don't come around every couple of years or so.

805
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: That's like once every fifteen, ten, twenty years for a

806
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: team type of deal. And also that kind of just

807
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: like complicates the rest of your roster because when you

808
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: have that position locked in, now everyone else has to

809
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: be locked in. We've seen the Yankees get into trouble

810
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: over the last few years by John Carlos stand being

811
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: locked into that DH spot, and we've seen teams like

812
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: the Rays and the Red Sox do everything in their

813
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: power to keep that open, especially the Dodgers in the

814
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: in the short season nationally, did have a DH. It

815
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: seems like there's just more to gain when that position

816
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: is something that revolves as long as you do don't

817
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 2: have the elite bat and Cruz and Schwarber do profile

818
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: as the elite bets that could make the stable DH

819
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 2: worth it, but just not for the Mets rosters it's

820
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: currently constructed.

821
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, the way it's currently constructed, it would be a

822
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: little bit of a too many cook situation. There would

823
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: be a lot of guys who can all do the

824
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: same thing right now. And that is really the main

825
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: reason why I think Schwarber and Cruz don't make sense.

826
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: But like in a vacuum, I guess you're saying, you know,

827
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: starting nine, you're playing your nine best players. Schwarber and

828
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: Nelson Cruz are by far better options than anybody that

829
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: the Mets could currently put at DH.

830
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: It clearly last year of the rais Nelson Cruz made

831
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: a shit ton of sense for them, even though it

832
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: went against their long standing philosophy of rotating the DH.

833
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: Until Cruz came to the Rays last year, they had

834
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: eight different guys in DH spot. At some point during

835
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: the season. It was guys from Testugo to Austin Meadows

836
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: who had it most of the time. Brandon Loud did

837
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: a few times here and there. They just like Jiman

838
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: Troi did here and there. They just like having that

839
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: Yandy Diaz. Of course, they liked having that DH spot open.

840
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: So whenever you had the right matchup, or whenever some

841
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: guy had like a barking hamstring or a sore wrist,

842
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: you can give the guy a day off. You don't

843
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: take anything off from the rest of your team. You

844
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: make sure everything still runs as it's supposed to run.

845
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: Saw the Giants without a DH kind of do this

846
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: really well last year, where you mix and match every

847
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: single day, you avoid injuries, you keep the load off

848
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: of the older guys who mean more for your team

849
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: at the plate, and everything works really well. But the

850
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: Rays just had so much depth and such good defense

851
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: at so many different positions that they were able to

852
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: take on to DH last year and it was able

853
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: to improve their bottom line because cruise is that could

854
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: have a hitter. And again, the Rays had like four

855
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: guys in the roster who could either play short stop

856
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: per center field. I just don't have that luxury. The

857
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: Mets currently right now have three full time dhs on

858
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: their team between Robizon, Gono, J D. Davis, and Dominic Smith,

859
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine how bring on a fourth would

860
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: help this team play. Like there's no one who can

861
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: play center field or none of guys who can play

862
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: centerfield and shortop on this roster.

863
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think it's probably gonna get lost too.

864
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: Like you're saying like there's not a world where they

865
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: help the team, like they definitely make the team better.

866
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: I think that's like without a doubt, but it causes

867
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: more issues as well.

868
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: I'll say that signing a guy like Cruiser Schwarber will

869
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: make the Mets better on opening Day, but there's no

870
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: proof that it's gonna make the team better on August first.

871
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: See, I don't know. I really do think that bringing

872
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: a guy like Kyle Schwarber would be huge for this all,

873
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: like that left handed power bat. And I know, I

874
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: know you're not saying it wouldn't be.

875
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I just thought that if you want to

876
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: bring in those guys, there still needs to be a

877
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: lot of a turn done.

878
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's fair.

879
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: Let's say that you do sign Schwarburn, there is a

880
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: dh so opening day, your outfield is nimo Marte Canna,

881
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: Schwarber's dhing Pieza first, Jeff McNeil's the second, or Robson

882
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: Cuno is the second, or Jeff Ingneal's a second. Francisco

883
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: Indoor is a short and at why the Wescu bar's

884
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: at third? So what's your opening day bench? Then your

885
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: bench is Robinson Cuno can't really do anything. Your bench

886
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: is Jady Davis also can't really do anything. Lwiski army

887
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: who could play defense everywhere, but we're not really sure

888
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 2: if he can hit enough to be in the major leagues.

889
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 2: A backup catcher Tomas Nito. And then who's the fifth

890
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: bench guy in that situation?

891
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, who would be the fifth bench guy?

892
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: I don't even know. I'm blanking on the Mets bench

893
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: guys right now. Who are you looking at?

894
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: The producer now, I'm just I'm just thinking. I'm looking

895
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: out to the side, looking out the window here in

896
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: sunny Texas?

897
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 2: Is Jamie over there? Like Jamie? Who's the Mets fifth

898
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: bench guy?

899
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? Who what do we got over here? He got

900
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: a name for me? Pull Mike Francis. I don't know

901
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: who we're talking about right now.

902
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: It would be oh be Dominic Smith of course, the

903
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: guy we just mentioned sou So if you bring in

904
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: Kyle s Warbur, he's the guy who can't really play defense,

905
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 2: you now have three guys on your bench who can't

906
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: play defense, a backup catcher, and the one guy who

907
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: can play defense can't really hit. Yeah, I just don't

908
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: see how we get through a season without a lot

909
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 2: of middland field depth in the upper miners to where

910
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: that roster spot is best used in that way, Like

911
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: maybe if we didn't se Marcanna like it would have

912
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: made a little bit more sense, or if Jeff McNeil

913
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: gets traded, but we can't in that situation. Also, you

914
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: really can't afford to lose Jeff McNeil because he's another

915
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: one of your only versus top players on the whole roster. Like,

916
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: it's not that these guys win. Obviously make the Mets

917
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: line up better. The Met's definitely need a lefty bat,

918
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 2: and the Mets could definitely use one more hitter to

919
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: send them from like a good offense to a great offense.

920
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 2: But it seems like it will just put the rest

921
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: of this roster in a box that I don't really

922
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: think it would benefit them. To be in in the

923
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 2: long term. By long term, I mean like the entire season,

924
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: not like years, you know.

925
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that does kind of go against what we've

926
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: seen recently with like the guys the Mets have been

927
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: going after, where you know, Edward Escobar can play three

928
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 1: in field positions, Starling Marte plays all the outfield positions,

929
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: Marcanna could play all the outfield positions in a little

930
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: first base too, like they have the versatility. Kyle Schwarber

931
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: is a good player, Nelson Cruz is a good player.

932
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: Like you said, would definitely help on paper, but we

933
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: also know that you need to be able to make

934
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: fillins and have different guys step in. And I think

935
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: you're definitely right in that that it would be just

936
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: a little too many cooks in the kitchen and we

937
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: could go and make the team better other avenues rather

938
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: than filling in our DH.

939
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not even about filling it in other

940
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: avenues with the money you'd save, like money, we're not

941
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: even talking about money anymore. But there's just some care. Yeah,

942
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: you've you've twenty six roster spots here, and you have

943
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: to make sure those are maximized in a way that

944
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: helps this team win on a daily basis. Again, like

945
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: there are days that Kylee Swarber, Nelson Cruz will be

946
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: able to win you a game because they'll hit two

947
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: home runs or they're driving five fronts and get sh

948
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: ton of hits. But like it's ironic. But the big

949
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 2: thing that's kind of locking the Mets into this right now,

950
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: besides those three guys who don't even have a clear

951
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: defined role or any way to help this team, is

952
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: the fact that they have an elite hitting first basement.

953
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: A lot of times the teams like the Dodgers, the Giants,

954
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 2: the Rays, last year the Red Sox, they were kind

955
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: of able to use that first base position it's half

956
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: of a DH and be able to rotate their guys

957
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: who couldn't play the field in there, Like if first

958
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: base was open, Kino could play there a little bit.

959
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: JD could play there a little bit. Either Cruise or

960
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: Schwarber could play there a little bit because for some

961
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: they were both playing that last year after they were

962
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: traded to those two very smart teams were run by

963
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: very similar types of people. And I'm not saying that

964
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: like at all in any way, shape or mind that

965
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: Pilanz shouldn't be on the team. He's one of the

966
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: best hitters in baseball. I'm just saying, like, when you

967
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: have a locked in first basement, it gives you less

968
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: flexibility to sign these one dimensional types of players. Like

969
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: the Mets need athleticism. The Mets need defense more than

970
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: they need power right now. And that doesn't play as

971
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: well in podcasts or on Twitter, or in videos or

972
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: in articles. But it just makes more sense for this

973
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: team to be as good as it can be, to

974
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: get more athletes who can do more things rather than

975
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: a guy who could just sit in the bench hit

976
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: home runs.

977
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: I listen, I mean, what do we have in our

978
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: description of our podcast. We're gonna give you like very

979
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: sane takes. We're gonna be calm, We're gonna be collected,

980
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna give you. You know, the exciting thing

981
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: is to say, let's sign Kyle Schwarber and Nelson Cruz,

982
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: But the right move tells us there's other things we

983
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: can do Before that.

984
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: We could talk for fifteen minutes about their career accolades

985
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: and how many home runs they've hit, and their their

986
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: incredible play discipline and the way they smash the ball.

987
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: How much fun is see? Hey see Kyles Swarbur hit

988
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 2: home runs into the Pepsi co corner now.

989
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: And we do lose like fifteen home runs a year

990
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: hit against us from Kyle Schwarber.

991
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: So you know, it wouldn't be a problem to just

992
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: sign Colleg Schwarber, just not play, just put in the

993
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: triple A. That would be a move. Give Colleg Ropert

994
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars not to play against the Mets. Sure,

995
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: and this conversation changes that the Mets find a way

996
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: to get rid of two of the unforgivables right now,

997
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 2: and not saying those guys can't be helpful in some way,

998
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 2: but there's just nowhere that I can see that Canoe,

999
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: Davis or Smith playing the field and hitting well on

1000
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: a regular basis, And ironically, Kunoe is one who could

1001
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: do it the most.

1002
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: I was just about to say Canoe's probably the guy

1003
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: that we're reluctant to move the most, just because there's

1004
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: a world where he can play second base at a

1005
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: completely fine level again and also hit where JD. Davis

1006
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: is never going to be able to play the field,

1007
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: and Dom Smith is only a first baseman and he

1008
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: hasn't hit, So like, those two guys are really the

1009
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: thing that are clogging up this roster right.

1010
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: Now, and those two guys are the ones that more

1011
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 2: easily be traded because they don't make any money. Like

1012
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: you can probably trade Smith JD for like fine minor

1013
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: league players with like some potential or maybe even like

1014
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: a seventeen year old with a massive amount of potential,

1015
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: and it probably in a backwards way helps this major

1016
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: league team out more because you suddenly get flexibility.

1017
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: I was just about to say, do you think that

1018
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: the metch should move Dom and JD just to free

1019
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: up some flexibility, just to have the opportunity to bring

1020
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: in a different kind of player, because like I mean,

1021
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: not to keep harping on it, but like they just

1022
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: don't really make sense right now unless there is the

1023
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: DH and then you're gonna platoon those guys. But even then,

1024
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do that, why would you not just

1025
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: go get Kyle Schwarbur and get rid of these guys

1026
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: and improve somewhere else.

1027
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: Exactly, especially BECAUSEKYLEE. Schwarber can probably play the outfield better

1028
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: than any of those three guys I just mentioned, like

1029
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: truly so, and then you can kind of turn Mark

1030
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: Canna into but then yeah, then ud kate Markenna thirteen

1031
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: million dollars to not play every day, which is a

1032
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: little bit obscure. But like I do think that if

1033
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: I if this was my team, if I was running it,

1034
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: I would be running to at least get one of

1035
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 2: these guys, if not both of them off my roster

1036
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 2: for the best minor league pieces I could get. And

1037
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: then you pivot that to sign guys who can play

1038
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: multiple positions and give you multiple things, like you can

1039
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: sign Brad Miller for free, and Brad Miller is a

1040
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: lefty with power who can play first and second to

1041
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: a degree like Donovan Solano. He has decent power. He

1042
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 2: can play second base someday for you in third base

1043
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: and do something that's okay, like even to bring a

1044
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: guy like Jonathan vr Back on this roster and to

1045
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: play multiple positions and give you something else you don't have.

1046
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: It's just craving with this Mets roster right now. This

1047
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: idea of flexibility that you see the best teams in

1048
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: baseball have some of the best And I know that

1049
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: Ben z Ausmer believes this too, because people internally at

1050
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: the Dodgers are the first ones who are like, we

1051
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: need everyone on a bench to play everywhere, Like you

1052
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: have to play short stop, centerfield, third base, second base,

1053
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: if you want to have a bench spot here, and

1054
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: there are guys out there who can still do that.

1055
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: One of them who comes to mind is Trevor's Story.

1056
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: You're giving up a pick to do that, and that's

1057
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: probably not gonna happen. But I think if you were

1058
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: to make a splash as the Mets, it shouldn't be

1059
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: an obvious d age. It should be a guy who

1060
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: does more things, like if Trevor Story wants to be

1061
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: Marcus Senmian, like that makes more sense to me and

1062
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 2: shwar But besides for losing the draft.

1063
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: Pick, yeah, no, definitely, And I think that's probably the

1064
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: biggest narrative to take out of this is just it's

1065
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: just it's crowded for that position and currently how the

1066
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: roster stands, it makes it a little bit tougher. But

1067
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: this is also stuff that's not gonna happen for a

1068
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: couple months because we don't have any baseball.

1069
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: And that's the other reason why I even feel stupid

1070
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: about like diving that much into like freegee discussion, because

1071
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: I don't even know when we're gonna be a free

1072
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: agent's gonna be legal to sign, no clue.

1073
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: I think they're a meeting today right or tomorrow. So

1074
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: today when you guys are listening, probably yeah, and uh,

1075
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: there's still so much left before we actually get any

1076
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: sort of baseball coming back here. I guess to wrap

1077
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: up this episode since it's pretty much it to talk about.

1078
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: We had a couple questions come in right from a viewers.

1079
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, couple. I mean we're just like, we got a

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Speaker 2: few here and there, and we both basically answer them

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Speaker 2: in those two segments. But the guy Nick Kohile, who's

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00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: like one of the most loyal, messed up listeners out there.

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Speaker 2: Shout out Nick your response to everything. He's a homie.

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Speaker 2: He asked the two funny questions along with that DH one.

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Speaker 2: He has what we are our favorite musical artists? So Mark,

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Speaker 2: who's who are some of your favorite musical artists?

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Speaker 1: I mean, all time to be boring and annoying, I

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Speaker 1: know you're gonna have some cool hip takes with guys

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Speaker 1: that you like. But Eminem's a classic that's like my

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00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: favorite rapper of all time, Like rock bands, I love

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Park they were great. That was like great for

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Speaker 1: me in the two thousands. I know we make fun

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Speaker 1: of Ernie for it. I won't put it on at

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Speaker 1: a party now because that's just not the vibe at all.

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Speaker 1: But I do love Lincoln Park. I like the Beatles too.

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Speaker 1: Let's be boring and pick some really cliche bands, but

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Speaker 1: they're just I love him right now. Guys that I

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Speaker 1: really like, Oh that's tough. I really like mgk's new

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Speaker 1: pop punk album that I did like a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago. That to me was awesome. I think it's underrated.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the things I'm listening to a lot

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Speaker 1: right now. In Oliver Tree, I like him a lot too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Olivertree is at homie. I love Oliver Tree. Living

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00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: with you kind of make me like Oliver Tree more.

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00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: I just liked him like a little bit, and then

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00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 2: I started listening to him, like, Oh, this guy's a

1107
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: lot of fun. I've always loved Kanye. Whatever you think

1108
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: Kanye is as a person, I will always listen to

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00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: his music. That's really good. And some other like weirdot

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00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: bands I kind of like. I love a band called

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00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 2: Jungle and they likes happy music. They're super happy sing

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00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 2: a lot, Toro wee moy. He's a homie, plays great music,

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00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: fucking awesome again just to be like stupid annoying. I

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00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: like the talking heads. Talking heads are funny. They're fun Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Asked us one more question. You talked about Ernie before

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00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 2: in Lincoln Park. He asked us if this Ernie Jonathan

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00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 2: VR thing is just a bit or if he really

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00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: actually loves him. No, Nick, this is not a bit,

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00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: our friend, Ernie subtape underscore underscore, subtape on Twitter, subtape

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Speaker 2: on Scope, subtape underscore, sub tape underscore, Yeah, sub tape

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Speaker 2: on his score. He loves johonnth the VR. He's been

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00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 2: his favorite player for his entire life. He loves him

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Speaker 2: to bits and pieces. He wants nothing more than to

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00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: watch Jata VR play. He was he loved him so

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00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: much he bought accustomized Joash of VR mets.

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Speaker 1: Jersey and that any of the sorrow he shows is

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00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: just for content for us. But he really does love

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Speaker 1: the guy.

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Speaker 2: He's doing the bit. He is the one trying to

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00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: be like hard to get this is so funny, La

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00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: la laugh. No, but he loves he customized Jonathan VR

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00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: mistrats you don't do that, Unles, you're committed.

1133
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: I have seen one Jonathan VR Mets jersey in my

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00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: life and it's been worn by Ernie at sub Tape Underscore.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you guys tweet him, let him know that

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00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: we talked about him in this episode. I know he'll really.

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00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: Appreciate it, and ask him for a picture of the

1138
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: joash of VR jerseyause I know he still has it

1139
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: because of how much he loves him.

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00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course he's he'll obsurprised it's not fremed in

1141
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: his room.

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00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: It probably is. We should get it signed for him again,

1143
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: like shadow.

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Speaker 1: That would be amazing, That would be so great. And

1145
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: then you had that like just a little fun tidbit

1146
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: tim Britton article where he posed a question that is

1147
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: just kind of laugh out loud funny.

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00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we give Tim Brendon a lot of the props

1149
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: on this podcast. He's in the big three of Mets

1150
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: beat writers that we trust with dshet Osar and Anthony Dicomo.

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Speaker 2: Is there a fourth one that we had there a

1152
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: little bit of No, I.

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00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: Don't think we've really acquired a fourth yet.

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Speaker 2: I think there might have been, but I think we'll

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00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: maybe we'll keep that off for now. That's definitely not

1156
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: Heally or Baron or not Idew Martinez. No, no, no, it

1157
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: was anyone else that maybe we're just forgetting about than

1158
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: we I apologize, but he posted a nice long survey

1159
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 2: yesterday about how Mets fans are feeling going into this

1160
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: offseason because it's the lockout for everybody out there making

1161
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: baseball content, we need some shit to talk about. And

1162
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: he posed one question that about the twenty twenty one

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Speaker 2: season that I just found the multiple choice options to

1164
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: be really hysterical, and it was how would you describe

1165
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: your level of disappointment you felt about the twenty twenty

1166
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Speaker 2: one Mets? And the four options were it was the

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Speaker 2: most disappointing season in Met's history, which I hope no

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00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: one picked that because it wasn't the most disappointing season

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Speaker 2: in Met's history.

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Speaker 1: Be crazy.

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Speaker 2: It was as disappointing a recent season that the Mets

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Speaker 2: have had. I picked that one. I think that was

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00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,959
Speaker 2: possible because it was as disappointing as a recent season,

1174
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 2: because the last last spot seven years have been disappointing

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00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: in their own ways, but this one was particularly disappointing

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00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 2: for unique ways, and this one describes Mets fans as

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00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: it's sad to read, it's gonna be sad to say,

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Speaker 2: and it's it was no more disappointing than a usual see.

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Speaker 1: Which is so crazy that the usual season is disappointing.

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00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: Then a usual season. This was no more disappointing than

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00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: usual season, the usual season. This is the first time

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00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: the history of Major League Baseball that team was I

1183
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: think it was like five games in first place at

1184
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: the June first, was five games at the first place

1185
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: by like September first, something stupid like that. As disappointing

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00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: as a usual season, that one is probably the ends

1187
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: up winning because it kind of makes sense.

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00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: That one's hilarious. That's the best option. I think that's

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00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: the funniest option. And as Mets fans, we know it

1190
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: all too well. And good episode, Yeah, good episode, a

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00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: little bit shorter, but we still we're still right around

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Speaker 1: that forty five to fifty minute mark because that's how

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Speaker 1: we always do it. Thank you guys for listening to

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00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: Mets Up episode number seventy. Listen to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

1195
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Speaker 1: Drop us a five star rating. We're looking for those

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Speaker 1: still and drop us some reviews, Drop us some questions

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Speaker 1: in the reviews too, will shout you out at the

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Speaker 1: end of the next episode. If you have any for us,

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Speaker 1: make sure you watch Once upon a Time in Queens.

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Speaker 1: It might be the next episode if there's no new news.

1201
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: If there is, it will be the one after that.

1202
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: Who knows, it's just kind of a rainy day. We're

1203
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: taking a rain check on that right now, but definitely

1204
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: go watch that so we can talk about it. You

1205
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: guys can get involved as well. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram,

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Speaker 1: TikTok at that Stuff, YouTube channel, Mess Up Podcast. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have the video up there as well. If you

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Speaker 1: guys want to see a video version of it, follow

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Speaker 1: James on Twitter Action your had No Range, follow me

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Speaker 1: after rapp Nick Mark with a C. And that's where're

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Speaker 1: gonna wrap up episode number seventy. You guys, thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening, thank you for watching, and we'll see you

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Speaker 1: next time.

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Speaker 2: So guy, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful U