1 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back to those amigos with Freda Rodriguez and yours 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: truly when my mother, Ama, well, what do you uh, 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: what are we doing here? What is this thing that 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: we continue to sit on? 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: You know, still a little coffee? Are we gonna move 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: on to something else? 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think we're gonna have to spice 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 3: us up a little bit. Spice it up, man, spice 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: it up. 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: With our good friend there, Aaron was good. 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: Uh, everything is everything. 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: I am just having a great time listening to you 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: all reflect on life and everything in between. 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: And thank you for being here. 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Aaron is one of our executive producers here whose whose 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: knowledge for conversation is in incomparable. So we're so grateful 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: to you here with us here, and you know it lead 18 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: us into our next conversation next Chad. You know, you 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: know I will be you know I would be fullished 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: in our point out. That has been such a privilege 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: to get to know you on such a level. And 22 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's crazy we know each other so well, 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: and every episode we dig deeper on the roots of 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: how this all really happened, and it continued to validates 25 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: why I think you're such a special human being that 26 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm so proud that it show can you know, introduced 27 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: to so many people too, and and you know, and 28 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: to give like some of our existing friends and family 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: and just you know, maybe some of our fans, you know, 30 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: a window at what it took for us to get 31 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: to their homes or to the theaters, you know, and 32 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: and so that's fun. And as we think about that, 33 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: you know, I think about inspiration. 34 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: What is this inspiration? 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: We talked about our breaks, you know, we talked about 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: what it took there, the mentality that we had to 37 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: have to go into these rooms and conquer Goliath in 38 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: different ways and not know that we were actually performing 39 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: at that level and giving ourselves that great in that 40 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: space to kind of appreciate that trajectory from you and 41 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: from me. But there's a lot of inspiration that had 42 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: to be around us, I would think, right, I would 43 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: think that we would have to have had certain images, 44 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: certain individuals that did it first perhaps, or individuals that 45 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: you know that somehow, you know, we're along the way 46 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: that kind of helped us see a deeper version of 47 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: ourselves or more I don't know, a vulnerable yet powerful 48 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: version of ourselves. And you know, there's a lot of 49 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: people I believe in my career that I can look 50 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: back at, well, I mean who was my inspiration who 51 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: told me that I could too? So for you, like, 52 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: what were some of those images, What were some of 53 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: those individuals that you were like, oh, that's like me, 54 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: or like oh I can do it like them, or 55 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: even if that wasn't it just like just knowing that 56 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: the possibility was, you know, was was out there for 57 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: you to reach out to, Like who were some of 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: these images when some of these people that inspire you? 59 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, for me growing up in Chicago 60 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 4: and having two older brothers, I was lucky enough to 61 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 4: almost live their teenage years vicariously do them right, And 62 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 4: so we would you know, we lived in a in 63 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 4: a one television household with like a lot of Latino families. Oh, absolutely, 64 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: the dials, the hangar as, the pliers to like change 65 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 4: the channel. But I remember really early on watching TV 66 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 4: with my brothers and them pointing out, always pointing out 67 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 4: who the Latino Latino actors are, right, I mean. 68 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 3: We obviously grew up with like with the Rita. 69 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: Morenos of the world, with the Anthony Quinns of the world. 70 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: You know people like that. 71 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 4: I remember vividly, like Jimmy Smith's being on TV and 72 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 4: my brothers pointing. 73 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: Out, like, yo, that guy's Latino. 74 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 4: You know. I remember seeing East SiGe Morales in the 75 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: in the in the eighties. I remember seeing Andy Garcia 76 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 4: in the nineties when he first came out and what 77 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: a what an incredible movie star he was, right, I mean, 78 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: it was the first time I had ever really seen 79 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 4: someone like that and and speak Spanish and like a 80 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: like a major. 81 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: Blockbuster studio movie, you even play other ethnicities, right, but yeah. 82 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right, playing playing Italian and The Godfather or 83 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: the Untouchables, you know. And then I remember seeing Leguzamo, 84 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 4: our mutual friend John Leguizamo. And the reason why John 85 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 4: resonated a lot with me was, you know, seeing Jimmy 86 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: who was so classy and or or Andy who was 87 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 4: born in Cuba, like John, was one of the first 88 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 4: guys that I saw that I felt like I could 89 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 4: see that guy in my neighborhood. You know, there was 90 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 4: a deeper familiarity with him, and so I remember watching 91 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: him and following him closely and really being proud of 92 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 4: what he was doing and also giving me the inspiration 93 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 4: and an example of what I could do when I started. 94 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: And how different, right, I mean, he was such a 95 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: different type of performer and he was doing it. 96 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: Like nobody else was. 97 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: He allowed himself to be a different type of performer 98 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: that was bringing something to the table that was not going. 99 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: To be forgotten. 100 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: Every perform you remember every performance, yeah, I mean even 101 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: as like all the way to like the clown and spawn, right, 102 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: Like he's done so much iconic stuff to that point, 103 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: and then he does the clown and you're like what 104 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, but he was taking shots and he was 105 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: taking chances with his performances and his choices that just 106 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 1: most actors wouldn't, you know. And you know some people 107 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: would be afraid to do it, to do those too 108 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: well because they could get typecasts, you know. 109 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: And he was just one of those guys. 110 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: And he was unapologetically Latino the entire time at a 111 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: time where Latino wasn't necessarily the popular cast. 112 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and wasn't afraid to be a character actors scrappier, 113 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 4: yeah yeah, And came from that generation of what we 114 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 4: were talking about this earlier, of like character actors, you know, 115 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 4: like creating characters and voices and completely losing yourself and 116 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 4: the character. And he definitely embodied that. You know what 117 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: about you, I mean, you know you you came here 118 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: as a teenager, and this is pre internet, pre cable. 119 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 4: I would assume like, what was I mean, what were 120 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 4: you watching out in Venezuela that that inspired you, that 121 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 4: made you think that it was possible for you. 122 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: So in Venezuela, you know, Venezuela is like always ten 123 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: years late to get like new programming. So my collective 124 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: archives of television memories, Yes, it was crazy until I 125 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: was watching first of all, I Love Lucy in Spanish, 126 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: course in Spanish, in Spanish, which by the way, I 127 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: never knew he had an accent until I watched it 128 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: in English and in the United States. 129 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: So wait, wait, so what did it sound like? How 130 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: did he sound in Spanish? 131 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: He sounded like the entire cast was speaking in Spanish. 132 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: It was not in Spanish. None of them had accents. Huh, right, 133 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: so they were speaking Spanish. 134 00:06:59,680 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 135 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: So when I came to the United States and then 136 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: I was learning how to speak English, I went back 137 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: because I've seen every episode of I Love Lucy, and 138 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: when I started watching I Love Lucy again, I realized, oh, 139 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's what Lucy both sounds. 140 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: Like, and he has an accent, right, and I didn't 141 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: know that. 142 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: Huh. 143 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: So that was a magical moment for me. When I 144 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: heard his accent. I was like, oh, that's like me. 145 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 1: I have an accent. I just learned how to speak English. 146 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: I have an accent too. But you know, beyond that, 147 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: back and when it's well that we were watching stuff 148 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: from you know, there was a live action Spider Man 149 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: from the seventies or in the early eighties, you know 150 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: whatever there was, you know, lu Forarigno's Hole, Charlie's Angels, 151 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, chips. I wanted to be punched so bad, 152 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, you know, and you think about all those shows, 153 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: you know further, and then you kind of had a 154 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: collect every think like the Simpsons were playing and like 155 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: The Fresh Prince, you know, shows like that that were like, 156 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, obviously making its way into syndication around the world. Literally, 157 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: did I know the syndication was created by the one 158 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: guy that didn't have an accent and then eventually had 159 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: an accent when I watched him in English and the 160 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: United States, and that was Ricky Ricardo. 161 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 3: Leasi Ernest. 162 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: I didn't know he created Syndication. 163 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: Yes, he was the He was the guy who who said, Hey, 164 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna show with one more than one cameras and 165 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: we're going to record it, right and once they recorded it, 166 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: this thing was available for sale internationally everywhere. So he 167 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: accident to create it, the Syndication in the multi camp 168 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: format and you know that that entire thing, you know, 169 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: and and they owned it, you know. So so those 170 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: are the kind of inspirations that I grew up with, 171 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: like The Punch, you know, I grew up with Chico 172 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: and The Man, you know USA, you know. So these 173 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: were shows that like somehow was creating the solution that 174 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: we were also included pop culture. You come to America 175 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: and start watching TV and you realize that it's leaning 176 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: away in the other side, which is fine, right, Like 177 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: I didn't see anything wrong with it until I realized 178 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: what America really looked like and what was really reflected 179 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: on those stories, right, I never really knew you know, 180 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: where we were in that in that in that inclusion meter, 181 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, did you feel like they were did you 182 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: feel like when you were in Venezuela that they were 183 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: specifically showing those shows because they were latinos in it. No, 184 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: I think that they were selling contact around the world, 185 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: and I think that the things that were really popular 186 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: in the United States were an easy cell for international markets, right, 187 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: and you know, they were also selling like packages, you know, 188 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: like maybe CBS Corps at the time, We're sending all 189 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: their CBS sitcoms, you know, and then we're selling them 190 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: across the world. I don't know what some of those 191 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: factors playing in that time, but I was growing up 192 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: with that. And then when it came to movies, you know, Rocky, 193 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, Cobra everything still yeah, you know, Conan Terminator, 194 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, everything are no right, like in our countries 195 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: and back in in Latin America, these movies action movies 196 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: were the ones that they played every weekend in TV, 197 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, on TV. 198 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: So these were some of these images. 199 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: But I mean to me, these characters, you know, were 200 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: larger than live but they were capable, and there was 201 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: like these single mission guys. Yeah, Arnold's Commando, you know, like. 202 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: Commando, you know, all these things. 203 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: You know, you watch all the Godfathers in Spanish, you know, 204 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: and yeah, was. 205 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: It always in Spanish? 206 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, because we're watching free channels. 207 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: Right, there was only two channels, Karakas and Venevicion, and 208 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: they syndicate all this stuff. 209 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: You know. 210 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: During the weekends, they would play The Extorcists, the Rocky movies. Yeah, 211 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: they played Superman, the Christopher Reeve movies, right every weekend. 212 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: And in the movie theaters. 213 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: We had a tiny little movie theater on the weekends 214 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: and we had only RoboCup, like robo We played Robo 215 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: cup all year round in the movie theater, you know. 216 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: But you know again, so these were some of the influences. 217 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: And I think Punch, yeah, Dessi or Naz for me, 218 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: we're like, oh, Punch is like it's like a hero, 219 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 220 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: It's like out there catching the bad guys. 221 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: Desi er Nas wearing a suit, is playing music at 222 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: a life band, and you know, he started doing a 223 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: scene with John Wayne, He's doing a cameo on the show. 224 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 4: You know. 225 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 3: It's like I was like, how cool is that? You know? 226 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: And so I think those things really inspire me and 227 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: started like opening my mind. But never, never, as I 228 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: was growing up, ever thought that I'd be one of 229 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: these guys that eventually could create something that could maybe 230 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: outlive me. 231 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 3: Does it? 232 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 4: Does it ever freak you out that, like, you know, 233 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 4: you just described your childhood, you describe what you were 234 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 4: watching like you're that guy now, like you're you're Eric 235 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 4: Estrada now right to this next generation of kids in 236 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: Venezuela and Colombia all. 237 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: Through the world. You know, does that ever? Do you 238 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: ever think about that? 239 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: I never, I've never really take a moment to I 240 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: can appreciate the fact that what I've done somehow, I've 241 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: made it out there. When you really hit me was 242 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: when I went to Venezuela to visit a bunch of 243 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: years ago, many many years ago, and there was a 244 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:13,239 Speaker 1: channel there, Sony Entertainment Television, and Sony had all the shows, 245 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: but they had him in English, you know, they just 246 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: subtitled in Spanish, and. 247 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 3: He did really well for young people. 248 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: Young people loved watching it in English and reading the 249 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: subtitles in Latin America. And when I went down there 250 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: and I saw that my show was playing and the 251 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: small little town that I grew up in, yeah, you. 252 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: Actually saw on TV. Oh wow, that's it. 253 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: That's when I was like, what just happened? Yeah, in 254 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: the same living room that I grew up. Yeah, that 255 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: I was watching the shows. 256 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: Now these shows are full circle coming. 257 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: In this way, and so that was a moment that 258 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: really felt, oh, like, when I'm doing is something real? 259 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: It's not just like you know, it's not just playing right, 260 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: and you know you always knew that it was there 261 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: was something to it, you know, but I just think 262 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: you know it doesn't. The impact is like when when 263 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: you walk down the streets of London and you've never 264 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: been to London before, and all of a sudden someone's like, hey, 265 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: you know, grew up. 266 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: Watching your show with a British accident and you're like, whoa. 267 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 3: I mean like I've never been here. 268 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: Somehow somebody knows that I exist a different like Singapore. 269 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: Was walking down Singapore and these two ladies were leaving 270 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: the store after that closed it and then they looked 271 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: at me because oh I couldn't speak English, and so 272 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff that it really kind of hits 273 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: you and makes you go, whoa, man, this is Maybe 274 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: what we're doing is it is larger than we think, 275 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: and like what we are putting on that screen is 276 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: also you know, like what are we inspiring you know 277 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: people with. 278 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 3: Did you have you had instances like that? Did you 279 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: think to yourself like WHOA, Like, you know, it was 280 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: cool making the movie, and now it's like, yeah. 281 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 4: I just recently this sort of encompasses it. I had 282 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 4: somebody around the holidays, I did this holiday movie and 283 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 4: this around the holidays, I ran into a fan randomly 284 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 4: and they said, you know, I love this this holiday movie. 285 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 3: You did it. 286 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: It's called Nothing Like the Holidays. 287 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 4: It was a legamo and media of course, and and 288 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 4: she said, you know, me and my me and my 289 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: father used to watch this movie every holiday. 290 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, that's beautiful, you know. 291 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 4: And then and then she gets tears in her eyes 292 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: and she's like, but he's passed away, you know. But 293 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: that's the thing that we had, is that we would 294 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 4: watch this movie together. 295 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: And now she'll watch that movie and it'll take her 296 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: back to her dad. 297 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 298 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, But it's been stuff like that, you know, really 299 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 4: receiving the emotional impact that I've had on people, you know, 300 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 4: and that really means a lot to me because that's 301 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 4: really what I'm doing right, Like I'm I'm I'm offering 302 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: a form of escapism for people, right and you don't 303 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 4: know what's happening in people's lives, and you know you 304 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 4: really think about that, right, Like, like, we come into 305 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 4: people's most intimate spaces, right, we come into people's living rooms, 306 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 4: we come into people's bedrooms, spaces that only only very 307 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 4: few people are allowed to be into, and we're moving 308 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 4: people emotionally in these spaces that are very intimate and 309 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: dear to them, you know. And I think that that's 310 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 4: why when you run into these kinds of people that 311 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: they feel that they know you because you've moved them 312 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 4: emotionally in these intimate spaces. I mean, they spent hours 313 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 4: with you hours man hours, you know the same way 314 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 4: that we did, right, you know, they like like like 315 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 4: the vision that you that you shared with me in Venezuela, 316 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 4: the same way we did. 317 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: Right, we're coming up. 318 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 4: We're watching Punch, you know, chase people down the one 319 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 4: on one you know, like, but but we spend so 320 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 4: much time with them in our living room. 321 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: Did you think about what what was your show? 322 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 4: Was? 323 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: It? Was it Punch? Like there was it Chips? Which 324 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: one was? Yeah? 325 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: Chips man, yeah, all of that chips. 326 00:15:59,440 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 327 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: I remember specifically seeing Eric Ostrada and. 328 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: Going like, oh wow, man, there's like one of us, 329 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, he did a Spanish soap opera. 330 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:15,119 Speaker 2: Those those coming, those those coming, those those weirdest gummy coming. 331 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: And which means two women on the one. 332 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 333 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: And I watched that soap opera in Spanish. You did 334 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: my mom in Venezuela. I think we were back in 335 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: the United States at this point. I forget, but it 336 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And it was crazy about it. 337 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: It's like I grew up watching him Punch, so of 338 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: course as a little boy, I was like, oh, Punch 339 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: is in a Spanish stillingela, Like I started watching him 340 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: in those those modism comino and and the dude. The 341 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: show is quite literally what the title was. 342 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: It was. 343 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: Women to figure out which one and they both were like, 344 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: you have to pick yea. 345 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: It weren't even mad about him two women at the 346 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: same time. Is that what the whole show was about? 347 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: What the show is about? 348 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: The whole time he needs to make a decision between, 349 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, between these two actresses to the two these 350 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: two characters. 351 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 3: Wow, and it's the dilemma, you. 352 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: Know, you know, why is his destiny but the other 353 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: one he's in love with. 354 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 4: You know. 355 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,719 Speaker 1: It's like like it was so it was so crazy, 356 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: but only Spanish stilling over lets can sell you on 357 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: that fantasy, you know. 358 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow. 359 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 4: I remember my mom watching that, you know, but but 360 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 4: I you know, you were asking me was it paunch? 361 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: Was it? 362 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 4: I remember I remember watching you ever seen this movie 363 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 4: Internal Affairs with with Andy Garcia Richard Gear. 364 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: I don't know how well. 365 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: We got a hold of the video tape back in 366 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 2: like the eighties and we had that. 367 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 4: Movie on heavy rotation, and I remember Andy had a 368 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 4: couple of lines in Spanish in that movie, and. 369 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 3: It blew my mind. 370 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 4: It was like the first time I had ever met 371 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 4: I couldn't comprehend. It was like, well, wait, this guy 372 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 4: is the lead guy, Richard Gear, major Hollywood movie and 373 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 4: he's speaking Spanish. You know, it blew I don't I 374 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 4: don't remember ever seeing that, like in like a major 375 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 4: American film. 376 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: Like that before. 377 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: And when you see an American actor speak her language, 378 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, culture just like oh my, you 379 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean, It becomes it becomes interesting. Like 380 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: I've seen Ben Affleck. Dude, fool. 381 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: Can speak better Spanish than you and I. 382 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 4: By the way, he sounds like, you know, like. 383 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: You know, he literally does. 384 00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: He sounds like he's from like TG. 385 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, but we give them so much 386 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: respect because whoever tries, you know, our culture rewards and 387 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: we're loyalty, you know. 388 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: And it's beautiful to see what actors really try. Uh. 389 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: And I think it's becoming more possible now with our 390 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: where characters are finally more in tune with the responsibility 391 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: we have as we portray these characters on screen. You know, 392 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: back then, you know, some of these characters were either 393 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: not the imperfect or the bad guys you know, or 394 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, they were in the mob or whatever it is, 395 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: you know. And and so to to see that there 396 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: is a a new generation of Latino characters, did you 397 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: feel a little responsible for like what you do now 398 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: or how you pass down the torch? 399 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: Oh? 400 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 2: Man, that's a good question. Do I feel responsible? 401 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 3: Yeah? 402 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, to an extent, I feel the responsibility. I always 403 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 4: felt the responsibility, especially after seeing those guys and me 404 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: realizing that I'm the guy who came next. I'm like, 405 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 4: if I got to follow that up, man, I better 406 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 4: be on my A game twenty four to seven, you know. 407 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 4: So yeah, in that sense, I felt the responsibility. You know, 408 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 4: A great feeling is when I meet like new actors 409 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 4: you know, who are coming up, who are doing wonderful work. 410 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 2: Who who. 411 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 4: Say to me that they've you know, watched me when 412 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 4: they were in school, or they came up watching me, 413 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 4: or they studied my work and that inspired them to 414 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 4: become actors. And so that, you know, I always feel 415 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 4: this responsibility, not not necessarily to like mentor them, but 416 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 4: to but to really be available to people like that, 417 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 4: you know, because they're just going through what we went 418 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: through now, uh, and if there's anything that I. 419 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 3: Could ever offer. 420 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 4: So that they don't fall into any pitfalls or or 421 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: learn certain etiquettes or or you know, certain gems of 422 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 4: how our industry works, and to make the path maybe 423 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 4: a little more or smoother for them, you know. 424 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: And you said something that really triggered another point for 425 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: us is, you know, they're about to go through similar 426 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: journeys that we went through. Right now, how is this 427 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: industry and compared to when we broke, you know, in comparison, 428 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: like what do they have against them, you know, you know, and. 429 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: What they have for them? 430 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: I would say, if you you know, if I go first, 431 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: I would say that what they have what they have 432 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: for them, is that the level of technology that can 433 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: support your independent art from the industry itself is so 434 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: much more available for you to show what you can be. 435 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: You can sharpen your tools sooner to become a director, 436 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: to become a writer, to become mean, there's so much 437 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: Like you can go to YouTube and teach yourself how 438 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: to write a screenplay. 439 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 3: You can go to YouTube and teach. 440 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: Yourself how to light a simple scene so you can 441 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: shoot it with an iPhone or whatever. You know, you 442 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: have a situation here now where like you know, you 443 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: have a moment in time now where where where I 444 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: think young people, you know have the tools if they 445 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: really want it, and at that point they can make 446 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: their own stuff and they can work backwards from it. Now, 447 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: what they have against them is a fracture industry who's 448 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to sustain how to sustain 449 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: a signal, how to sustain an audience, how to engage 450 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: with content that can continue to push limits and not 451 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: feel the same movie with a different title. 452 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: Right, How do you open the door. 453 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: For new talent and for a new wave of superstars 454 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: who can expand ideas into levels and universes that television 455 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: and movies have not gone before. And there's a struggle 456 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: for that entry point, you know, and how do you 457 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: break in? But so it's an interesting balance, right because 458 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: for us, when we aim to be what we are now, 459 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: our biggest struggle was that there were not enough parts 460 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: for Latinos. And if they were, you knew where they were, 461 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: You knew what they were and where they wanted you 462 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: to be. And I started thinking about also, you know, 463 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: there was only four channels doing network stuff. 464 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 3: Cable wasn't really the. 465 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: Aboundance of opportunity like you thought, you know, and you know, 466 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: theater you know, they was not sustainable for a lot 467 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: of actors, right, and then movies were like, you know, 468 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: a pop here eight months later, popped there, you know. 469 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 1: And so it's likeness, instant of signal. But do you think, 470 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: for you in your mind, what do they have for 471 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: them and what do they. 472 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: Have against It's a good question, right, I Mean, if 473 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 4: we're just talking about sort of Latinos and latinos, you know, 474 00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 4: it's what they've always had against them, right I And look, 475 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 4: I'm just pointing out the facts, right, I mean, just 476 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 4: turn on the TV and and and count how many 477 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 4: Latinos and latinos you see on TV right now, Right, 478 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 4: So that's indicative of the opportunities that that's being afforded, 479 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 4: whether it's you or I or the generation that came 480 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 4: after us or the generation who was here before us. Right. So, 481 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 4: so the opportunities are certainly slim. It's hard to say 482 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 4: whether it's it was slimmer back then or it's slimmer now. 483 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 4: You know, you know, when you try to gauge how 484 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 4: many of our people that you see on TV, at 485 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 4: least like what you said. You know, back then, we 486 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 4: at least had like movies. Movies were abundant, whether whether 487 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: it was you know, studio movies. 488 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: Or the I mean there was three or four releasing 489 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: every weekend, and they're all were like real, yeah, real. 490 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 3: Iconic stuff that we still remember to yeah, yeah. 491 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: And people were making money on movies. 492 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: They were making movies for the first time, like ideas 493 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: for the first time, refreshed ideas. They're always trying to do, 494 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: what's a movie we haven't made, Let's put that in 495 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: three thousand screens. 496 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 497 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: Nowadays it's like, who, how do we get capitalized on 498 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: on the success of that movie? 499 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 3: Let's make another one like that? 500 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, yeah, I mean even you know, it's 501 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 4: it's great that that fans have grown up watching my movies, 502 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 4: you know, from the nineties, from the two thousands, you know. 503 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 4: And I'll sometimes get fans that will go, hey, man, 504 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 4: how come you don't make you know, they'll name one 505 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 4: of my movies from the nineties and two thousands, and 506 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 4: I'll just go, well, they don't make movies like that. 507 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: Anymore, man, They just don't. 508 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, And if they do, you know, there's there's no 509 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 4: budget behind those movies. People are not making moneies off 510 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 4: those movies, you know. So at least when we were 511 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 4: coming up, we had we had a couple of different 512 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 4: avenues that we can that we could go in. Now, 513 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 4: the movies that actors, you know, have the opportunity to 514 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 4: fight for are these gigantic budget movies, and they're so 515 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,479 Speaker 4: far and few between, right, So then that that means 516 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 4: that a lot of the quote unquote movie stars are 517 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 4: sort of funneling into the movie into the TV industry, 518 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 4: right right, And now everything is sort of name driven 519 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 4: in the television industry, which it wasn't like that when 520 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 4: you and I were coming up, And so a lot 521 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 4: of those roles are being gobbled up by them right, 522 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 4: and so like the newer generation, although it may seem 523 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 4: like the opportunities are more vast, a lot of those 524 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 4: roles are being gobbled up by other actors so that 525 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 4: there's less opportunities for them. 526 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: I think, I don't know, I may I may be wrong. 527 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: I know, I think you're right. 528 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: I think you're nailing it, dude, because the illusion is 529 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: that there's so many streaming platforms, there's so many networks, 530 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: cable networks, you know that that are all making script 531 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 1: is stuff, nonscripted stuff. 532 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: So the illusion is that there should be tons of parts. 533 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, it's it's also seems like, you know, 534 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's not going to be things that are 535 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: going to help you the amount of stuff that you're 536 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: going to have to do to sustain, right, the volume 537 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: that you have to now capture or or or get 538 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: as an actor in order to just sustain. Because because 539 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: there's no such thing as like, I just got a 540 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: movie that a lot of people saw and that's going 541 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: to pave the way for me to get a new movie, Bryan, 542 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: give me that energy to now I'm going to get 543 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: a TV show and all that. So that makes it 544 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: really difficult, right, because now it's like, you could do 545 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: four movies and nobody saw that she have to go 546 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: back to audition for the next one, right, because there's 547 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: no such thing as that, And so I guess why 548 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: all the question is, you know what we think about this? 549 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: You know, how does that translate to multiple industries? 550 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 4: Right? 551 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: Multiple careers of different genres, different industries. What can people 552 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: expect to think about right now? Like what would you be? 553 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: What would be the advice for a young person that's like, okay, 554 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: well I want to be you know, I want to 555 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: be a doctored or I want to be you know, like, 556 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: how do we you know, what is inspiration for that? 557 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: We can talk about that. It fuels ambition again into 558 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: in this younger generation. 559 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 2: Well that was part one. Stay tuned for part two. 560 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: Stay tuned. Those Amigos coming right back. 561 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 4: Dose Amigos is a production from w V Sound and 562 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 4: iHeartMedia's Michael through That podcast network, hosted by me, Freddie 563 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 4: Rodriguez and Wilmer Valdorama. 564 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: Those Amigos is produced by Aaron Burlson and Sophie Spencer's Abos. 565 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 4: Our executive producers are Wilmer Valdorama, Freddie Rodriguez Aaron Burlson 566 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 4: and Leo Clem at WV Sound. 567 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: This episode was shot and edited by Ryan Posts and 568 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: mixed by Sean Tracy and features original music by Madison 569 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: Devenport and Halo Boy. 570 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 4: Our cover our photography is by David Avalos and designed 571 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 4: by Deny host. 572 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: Claw And thank you for being a third amigo today. 573 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys always listening to those amos. 574 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 4: For more podcasts from My Heart, visit the ir Heart 575 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 4: Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your 576 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 4: favorite shows. 577 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 3: So you next week.