1 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, we explain how Matt Rule, 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: the Panther's head coach, is responsible, okay, somewhat responsible for 3 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: why Cliff Kingsbury is now coaching in the NFL. Is 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: this the week the Cardinals get their ground game going? 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: And yes, we asked that same question a week ago. 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Also some good news on the injury front. It's Cardinals 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: Cover two, Episode three twenty two, and it starts now. 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. 9 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyunday, proud partner of 10 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit acy 11 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com Slash Podcasts. Murray rolls to the right 12 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: throws near sight of Fritz Bob. He's into the nside 13 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: for the touchdown. Here's Craig Grieolou and Mike. You'reckie, So 14 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: we all received a reminder MG on just how serious 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: things can be with COVID nineteen. You get ready for 16 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: practice to turn the page to the Carolina Panthers, and 17 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: you wake up to the news that the Titans Steelers 18 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: game on Sunday has been postponed, perhaps rescheduled for Monday 19 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: or Tuesday. We'll have to wait and see on that. 20 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Because of the number of positive cases the Titans have had, 21 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: not only with the players, but some of their staff 22 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: as well. Not that anyone hasn't been taken this seriously, 23 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: but three weeks in, everything all good and now well 24 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of a bump in the road, hopefully 25 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty regular season. Yeah, and you know 26 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: the first part of this is according to the commissioner, 27 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: he wasn't surprised. And I gotta think they have a 28 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: playbook and we've talked about you know, if this happened 29 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: earlier in the season, they did have a fourteen game schedule, 30 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: twelve game schedule. Now it's going to arrest once you 31 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: start the season. You're talking about division games when when 32 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: the teams have bye week. You know, the unfortunate thing 33 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: is for at least the Titans, they're not going to 34 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: be able to be at the facility. You know, ivery 35 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: think it's going to be virtual now. According to Mike Rabel, 36 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: they don't have any issues and tests wise, but yeah, 37 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: it's just a reminder and you know, in this case, 38 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, Minnesota. It looks like they're they're clean with 39 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: their roster, but it just goes to tell you you 40 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: can't relax. And Rabel said, hey, we've we've followed all 41 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: the protocol again though, guys got to buy in now. 42 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: One of the disappointing things I saw yesterday was the Raiders. 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: They had a function and it was videoed. There were 44 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: people in the crowd, no mass. First of all, these 45 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: players last time I checked, used to like September and October. 46 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: There's a lot of charity events on Tuesdays, just because 47 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: you know the players obviously here they want to get 48 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: back to the community. Those have all been canceled. So 49 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: for the Raiders to pull this off, and they deserve 50 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: to get fined. They've already been fined one hundred grand 51 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: for Gruden in the team two hundred and fifty thousand. 52 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: But what is car out there doing? I mean, because again, 53 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: once you go out, you can bring that back home 54 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: and you can bring it to the facility. So I 55 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: think Tom Raid at the Cardinals and how long takes 56 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: one guy though, But you know, Cliff has to remind 57 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 1: these guys it's only week three. We got a long 58 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: ways to go. Yeah, Kingsbury said he did bring it 59 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: up in the team meeting yesterday. Quote, got to stay vigilant, 60 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: and a number of players have discussed it, Kyle the Murray, 61 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, Chase Edmonds. So it's not just yourself. You 62 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: have to kind of be wary of the guy next 63 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: to you as well. So knock on wood. This is 64 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: just a public service announcement, if you will, a reminder 65 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: as you said that, hey, let's stay on top of 66 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: this so it doesn't get out of control. All right, 67 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: Speaking of practice on Wednesday, how about some good news 68 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: and the fact that both center Mason Cole and wide 69 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: receiver Christian Kirk did participate during the open portion of practice. 70 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: Cole has not been on the field for the past 71 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: two weeks because of a hamstring issue, and in Kirk 72 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: miss last Sunday because of a growing injury. I'm not 73 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: sure what this is going to mean Thursday, Friday and 74 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: in its Sunday, but at least this is a step 75 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: in the right direction to perhaps get two of your 76 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: starters on offense back on game day. Yeah, we know 77 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: how the usually when guys are limited or they're not practicing, 78 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: there's a part of that Before where they can be 79 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: on the field whether we're out there or not, and 80 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: you do some running and then he eventually you'll gradually 81 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: get to the main field. We've still got three more 82 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: days of practice. You know, when you look at the 83 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: Mont Gilliard, I think he came in and a pensioned 84 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: it a nice job, but you know he's only going 85 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: to be making his third start if this happens to 86 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: be the case, and there's a reason why Mason Cole 87 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: won that job. So I would assume if Cole is 88 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: healthy and good to go, that he gets to be 89 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: the starter, and then you're probably gonna have to address 90 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: kill you're just because in the hamstring, you know it's 91 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: going to be hot and human. You know, maybe and 92 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: maybe I don't haven't looked at the wasn't forecast, but 93 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: it could be there in Charlotte. And then for Christian Kirk, 94 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: it's I think it's important that you know, he gets 95 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: back on the field, but he doesn't want to have 96 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: any setbacks, and it's good that he didn't put him 97 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: on high arch to return that means minimum three weeks, 98 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: so hey, it's important to be on the practice field Wednesday, 99 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday, and then obviously it's going to be 100 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: a coaching decision. But I think if both are healthy, 101 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: both are starters, I think both will play. Then I'll 102 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: say this though about Gilliard. He hasn't done anything, at 103 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: least for my eyes. I don't know how the coaches 104 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: are breaking down the film to sit there and go 105 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: all right, Mason, we need you back. Now. You know, 106 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where not that you want 107 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: to be cautious. I mean you do want to be 108 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: It's not like you need to rush him back. And 109 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: if you need another week, give him another week. Because Gilliard, 110 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: at least from what I've seen, and then just a 111 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: couple of players, including Justin Pugh, they like how he's 112 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: performed and Cole's absinence. No, I agree, And when he 113 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: was got to nod when Cole was on the shelf, 114 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: I said, I think he's more athletic. I don't know 115 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 1: about strength. I mean, Mason Cole had to gain some weight. 116 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: We know that Mason Cole played at Michigan, which a 117 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: lot of really good defensive lineman. He played at Georgia 118 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: three years starter. So I didn't think there was a 119 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: huge drop off. I just you know, listening to the broadcast, 120 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: I listened to Wolfs say there were times, you know, 121 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: he was getting pushed her on a little bit and 122 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: made that affected Kyl Murray got in the pocket again. 123 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: It's it's all five guys got to be in unison 124 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: and they got to be in sync. So but again, 125 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: I think it's a good dilemma to half when you 126 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: got two starters that you can play. Also good to 127 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: see Jalen Thompson working on the side as well. He's 128 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,119 Speaker 1: still on injured reserve for at least one more game, 129 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: but it appears maybe it will just be a three 130 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: game absence for him, which would certainly be good news 131 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: with the cardinal secondary, especially that safety position, which brings 132 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: us to Buddha Baker. He did undergo surgery according to 133 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: Kingsbury quote everything went well. No timetable though on Baker's 134 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: absence because, in the words of the head coach quote, 135 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to put any timetable on it, just 136 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: because knowing Buddha and a type of superhuman he is. 137 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: End quote. I'd be surprised if we saw him this week, 138 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: but it wouldn't surprise me if he is back, certainly 139 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: for that Jets contest. Well, I mean you just look 140 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: at the depth of that position. Now there's been speculation, 141 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: not speculation. They've talked about possibly lightning Isaiah Simmons up there, 142 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: Deonte Thompson. We're going to find out more about band Joe. 143 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: But I mean, I wouldn't rule it out. Just I 144 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a pain tolerance and what kind 145 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: of cash would you have to wear. I've heard the comparison, 146 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: and I don't know if it was the same, but 147 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: Drew Brees underwent had thumb surgery and there was several 148 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: weeks of him missing. But you're talking about a quarterback 149 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: needing to throw the ball versus a defender who you know, 150 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: Baker played with that hand or wrapped up significantly and 151 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: played pretty well, got his hand on a ball, almost 152 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: had an interception. Matt have hurt his fingers on the 153 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: left hand so he could play. I just think, as 154 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,599 Speaker 1: you said, maybe it's more of a pain tolerance and 155 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: trying to figure out the best way to utilize, you know, 156 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: the rap to where he can still make plays, tackle 157 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: and maybe perhaps get that first interception. Well, guys like 158 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: you and I we connect the dots. I mean, unless 159 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: they make a roster move. I mean, how many safeties 160 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: are gonna line up? I mean, you look at the 161 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: practice squad. It again can convert if you play a 162 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: little bit back there. I mean, he's really a slot corner. 163 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: He can cover tight ends. You know you prefer Campbell. 164 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: I guess Simmons can cover you have Riley. I don't know. 165 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: I think they would have brought in a veteran player 166 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: or somebody off another practice. But again, a practice squad. 167 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: You know, they if Boodhist coming back this week or 168 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: next week. It's not a long term thing. But I 169 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: do think if they can put a cast on him. 170 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: This is just me because you know, according to Kingsbury 171 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: on ninety eight seven, he kind of said maybe it 172 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: could be a game, but we're hoping to get him back. 173 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: He didn't really put a time frame it. Today he 174 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: was more optimistic, which is encouraging. After the surgery. I 175 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: gotta think so, I think it's a possibility. I guess 176 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: we'll just have to wait and see, you know, because 177 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm assuming they'll they'll put a cast and then they'll 178 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: figure out if you like this one and then put 179 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: another one on. You know, with your mobility, can you 180 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: move your thumb. Probably not. Could they do they tape 181 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: it in? That's gonna be difficult to wrap up. So 182 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: there are factors, but clearly you don't want to have 183 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: any setbacks. No, certainly not with a player of that 184 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: caliber too. Excuse me, at least it's not a lower extremity. 185 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: He's coming back from an MCL, you know, a hamstring. 186 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: There's nothing else. I mean, it's it's not a long 187 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: term injury from a standpoint where because we've seen guys 188 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, have a finger issue and name you know, 189 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: Keen Butler. Now different story there versus Budda Baker returning, 190 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: So Payne tolerance, I you know, but again they get 191 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: they got to make sure he's If he's eighty or 192 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: ninety percent, I think he's gonna play. It's just you 193 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: don't want to be a liability out there. Yeah, and 194 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: him at less than one hundred percent is better than 195 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: what you've got at one hundred percent as the least 196 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: right now on the roster. Now, with respects to the 197 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: game on Sunday, there will be fans and attendance. The 198 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers will have fans for the first time this 199 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: season at home. Upwards of two hundred are going to 200 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: be allowed to be at Bank of America Stadium, and 201 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 1: that could be good news for DeAndre Hopkins, who is 202 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: somewhat going back home, at least close to home. And 203 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: he brought it up earlier today that the last time 204 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: he played against the Panthers in Carolata, he sees a 205 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: lot of Clemson orange in the stands. So maybe a 206 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: little bit of a home field or that may be 207 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: in a home field advantage. How about a churing section 208 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: for DeAndre Hopkins perhaps on Sunday, that would be nice, 209 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: But you gotta figure fifty two hundred. I mean they 210 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: going inside in the house or those fans. I mean 211 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: it said fans, so those season ticket holders. I mean, 212 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure sixty five thousand people wanted to be in there. Now. 213 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: To me, this is really encouraging because we've talked about 214 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: and I think they did a nice trial run on 215 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: Sunday against the Lions. When the Cardinals returned home, we 216 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: could be having this conversation again. Well, you know, I 217 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: think that the Earl's pointing in the right direction. Now, 218 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: it's just a matter of how things shake out over 219 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. But it's nice to see 220 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: you're starting to see more stadiums ys smaller capacities. But 221 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: we're making procers versus no fans for the entire season 222 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: like they have announced in college football and I Guess conferences. 223 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: Bird Gang, make sure you update to the latest version 224 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: of the Cardinals mobile app today. The update features an 225 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: all new redesign home screen experience. Visit asy cardinals dot 226 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: com slash app for more. The Panthers a first year 227 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: head coach leading them, and Matt Rule. And this is 228 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: going to be one of those interesting storylines for this 229 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: contest because you've got a pair of former Big twelve 230 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: head coaches now coaching on opposite sides of the field 231 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: once again. Kingsbury at Texas Tech Rule at Baylor. They 232 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: met twice in the Big twelve Rule one day second 233 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: matchup in twenty eighteen after Kingsbury got the better of 234 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: Rule and Rules first season at Baylor in twenty seventeen 235 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: thirty eight to twenty four, but the rematch one by 236 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: Rule thirty five to twenty four. And we learned today 237 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: that because of that win by Rule, Cliff Kingsbury lost 238 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: his job at Texas Tech. So Rule says he felt 239 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: somewhat responsible and sent him a text talking about Kingsbury. 240 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: I quote sorry about that. These two are very good friends. 241 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: In fact, Rule mentioned that he reached out to Kingsbury 242 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: before making the jump himself to the NFL level. So 243 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of payback revenge if you will, 244 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: for Kingsbury. Now after he was fired because of Matt Rule, well, 245 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: I think he was gonna get fired because he didn't 246 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: want a lot of enough games. It just happened to 247 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: be the timing. But I'm glad you brought this up 248 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: because you know, Matt Rule's kind of a defense minded 249 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: head coach. I'm sure he actually spent some time with 250 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: the Giants. Obviously, when you work your way up there, 251 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: you got to be a position coach and doesn't matter 252 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: on that side of the ball. And then you're aware 253 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: of Phil Snow. And Phil Snow was with Rule at Baylor. Now, 254 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: Phil Snow also at Temple at Temple exactly, and he 255 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: really changed that program around. Phil Snow has been everywhere 256 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: he's been a code defense, he's been in the NFL before. 257 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: He's an issue. So not that the Cardinals are running 258 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: an air raid offense. I mean we know that clearly, 259 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: when they go for why but they do have ten 260 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: and eleven personnel and so it's not like it's one 261 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: trick pony, so to speak, when it comes to play calling, 262 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: but they're well aware of some of the cons of 263 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: the mesh concept steps when it comes to RPO's zone 264 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: reads design runs. Now, you need two players obviously, you know, 265 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: perform at a high level. And just listening to the 266 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals players, they think their secondary is pretty good. We 267 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: know about Trey Boston, he'll come down and later Lumber 268 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: but it's going to be interested to see, like because 269 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: like Matt Patricia had to do a lot of research 270 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: and we know that he's a really experienced coordinator. Where 271 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: Snow and you look at Rule, they've been going against 272 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: this defense kind of for a while, so you know 273 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: in college different players. There wasn't you know, Dondre DeAndre Hopkins, 274 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: et cetera. But I think it's it's kind of an 275 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: industring chess match between both head coaches. Yeah, Phil Snow 276 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: the Panthers defensive coordinator defensive coordinator under Rule at Baylor 277 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: and also at Temple. The other storyline, or the connection, 278 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: if you will, is when both Rule and Snow were 279 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: at Temple. They coached Hassan Reddick from twenty thirteen to 280 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. In that final season, his senior season, Reddick 281 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: had nine and a half sacks. And in the of course, 282 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: you brought up Snow's time at ASU from ninety five 283 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: to two thousand. He was the defensive coordinator under then 284 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: head coach Bruce Snyder. So this is where if you 285 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: are in the game long enough as a coach, you 286 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: work your way up the ladder. You see familiar faces 287 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: at different spots, and now you've got two good friends. 288 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: Rule considers kingsburyer friend and vice versa. In fact, Kingsburrier 289 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: earlier today telling the Panthers media quote he talking about Rule, 290 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: really felt bad that I lost my job because they 291 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: beat us. Quote. So we'll see what happens on Sunday. 292 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: But those are the things that you like to see 293 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: because there is a fraternity amongst head coaches, even coaches 294 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: that are new to the NFL. Kingsbury and his second 295 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: year and Rule in his first year, well, I mean, 296 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: Matt Rule could have taken the job a year before. 297 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: I mean he was a finalist for the New York 298 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: Jets and they wanted him to keep part of that staff. 299 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: And he you know, he wasn't desperate. He said, I'm 300 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: going back to Baylor. Oh wait, you do out and 301 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: so you know he he obviously has been in the 302 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: you know, in front of the owners and being able 303 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: to give his spiel and then obviously see it Baylor. 304 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: He got them back on the map out after all 305 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: that controversy, and here Dave Tepper went outside the box 306 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: and hired him. Came a six year contract. U you know, 307 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: they're they're building something there. You know, we talk about 308 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: Breeze and Bray. They're getting older. It may not happen 309 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: this year, but and they're not giving away any Sunday games. 310 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: They play hard. Um. One thing that the words we 311 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: heard today where they're exotic, and that means you don't 312 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 1: know where they're coming from, you know where you know 313 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: some teams, you know they'll play their base defense, they'll 314 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: blitz a little bit. Exotic means they changed it up 315 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: based on your formation, based on matchups. So that's going 316 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: to be interesting to watch. And you know, we'll get 317 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: into Kyler because I think he knows that he's going 318 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: to become a better pocket passer. And he made some 319 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: comments today that I thought, you know, kind of proves 320 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: that he still wants to be that guy. Well, let's 321 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: get into Kyler Burry. It is a Wednesday. The quarterback 322 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: speaks to the media on Wednesday following practice, and as 323 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: far as how this offense has looked through three games, 324 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: no one is happy, and there is certainly a sense 325 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: that it's going to be sooner rather than later when 326 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: we actually see this team break out, if you will, 327 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: offensively for four quarters, for a full sixty minutes. But 328 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: with regards to how Murray or what happened on Sunday 329 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: against the Lions, we didn't see him run a lot. 330 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: But Murray, again asked earlier today, he prefers to stay 331 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: in the pocket and throw get the ball out to 332 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: his playmakers as opposed to him being a playmaker. Yeah, 333 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: and you know, one of the things that he mentioned was, 334 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, the first three games, mistakes, negative plays, shooting, 335 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: like you said, shooting yourself in the foot, and hard 336 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: to win when you turn the ball over. And so 337 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: he recognizes what's going on there, and it's to a 338 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: point where he really said it's about instincts when he's running. 339 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it just I don't think he goes into 340 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: the game and I'm gonna run seven times today. It's 341 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: the flow of the game. And he's had some big 342 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: runs in the red zone from the twenty yard line, 343 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: and that's impressive because when you get into the green zone, 344 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: the field gets a lot shorter, and the way he's 345 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: able to run once he gets you know, a slipper, 346 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: he sees some real estate, he's going to run there. 347 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: But I always thought that based on him being a 348 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: make that throw from the right hash mark across the field, 349 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: then being a throw a comeback route to the left 350 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: side of what an extra receiver usually lines up. He's 351 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: got the arm strength. I just think it's timing. I 352 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, they're mixing and matching guys in there. Kirk's 353 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: been out now, Arnold hasn't really, you know, been the 354 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 1: guy initially. It's a long season already, Hopkins, you know, 355 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: he's still trying to work Larry and Keyshawn Johnson there. 356 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: So the thing is the biggest word we're gonna hear 357 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: is did you need to find some rhythm and if 358 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: they can avoid things he talked about, you know, the 359 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: negative plays shooting themselves in a foot that that means 360 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: you're going backwards. You can't go backwards. And he knows 361 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: you can't turn the ball over three times. Hey, they're 362 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna throw interceptions, he's gonna fumble. You just 363 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: can't have three in one game if you want to 364 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: expect to win. Well, we were watching that game on Sunday. 365 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: At no point did I think the offense was not 366 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: able to move the ball, whether running it or throwing 367 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: it against this Lion's defense would stopped the Cardinals or 368 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, and specifically those three interceptions. There was almost 369 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: a fourth, but those three interceptions stopped the Cardinals. Yeah, 370 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: there were some penalties at some bad moments, but that 371 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: is what you're talking about, the negative plays, the mistakes. 372 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: There are too many, and right now this team is 373 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: not good enough to overcome a number of mistakes during 374 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: the course of the game. Maybe later this season, next year, 375 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: down the road, when Murray gets a little bit more 376 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: time under his belt than yes, you can overcome those mistakes. 377 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: Although I'll say this, we'd be talking about that if 378 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: that final drive didn't end in a punt and all 379 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: of a sudden Murray marches down field and scores and 380 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: the Cardinals win the ball. Game. Then the narrative is, well, 381 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: you know what, he turned the ball over three times, 382 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: but we overcame that. See, we are a good team. 383 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: It's that slim margin of error right now that the 384 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals need to figure out to be on the other 385 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: side as opposed to where they are right now. Yeah, 386 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: and again, something different this year than last year where 387 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: in the media on Wednesdays and Thursdays, is because it's 388 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: sometimes the first opportunity we talked to different players and coaches, 389 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like they really want to talk 390 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: about the opponent as much. It might be it might 391 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: just be that it's so early in the season, and 392 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: you hear this a lot. It's more about us than 393 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: it is them. Now. Maybe now we did hear it 394 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: when they faced the forty nine ers because they were 395 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: the defending NFC champions, But and that was a game 396 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: that we're all looking forward to. I don't think we're 397 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 1: going to hear that MJ until we get to Dallas, Seattle, 398 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: okayse upper tier teams if you will, not that they 399 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: overlooked the Lions or they're overlooking the Panthers or next 400 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: week against the Jets. Because it's so early in the season, 401 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: correct your own mistakes, and then you can start really 402 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: focusing on the opponent. Not that they're not. I mean 403 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: there's a scout team. They're running plays that the Panthers run. 404 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: Although there is still somewhat unknown on what Carolina is 405 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: going to do because it's a first year head coach 406 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: with a first year system, not a lot of game 407 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: film except for these first three games. I think just 408 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: because it's so early in the season, the lack of 409 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 1: an off season in preseason. Yeah, because you know, Blackston spoken, 410 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: he talked about focusing on us, not so much of Panthers. 411 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: But I agree with you from the standpoint. It's just 412 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: I think they feel like we and it's clear they 413 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: haven't played four quarters now. It's tough to do that. 414 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: You know. The other team is they have good players too, 415 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: That's the reason why the NFL has a draft. But 416 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: I feel like they leave so many plays on the 417 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: field where it's about us. It hasn't really been about 418 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: the opponent. Does that make sense, Yeah, the opponent's not 419 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: stopping us, We're stopping ourselves. Shooting ourselves in the foot. Okay, 420 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: because that's my antenna going up when I hear these 421 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: guys talking. It's only been three weeks. I'm going to 422 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: the fourth game yet, So it's something that I think 423 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: we all anticipate that changing this week. Although we had 424 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: the same conversation a week ago ahead of the Lions game. 425 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: Because you look on paper and this Panthers defense is 426 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: not great, certainly not very good against the run. They're 427 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: averaging or allowing almost five yards a rush. So is 428 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: this the week MJ that the running game without Kyler 429 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: Murray leading the charge gets going for the Cardinals? If 430 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: it all depends on how they play us, I mean, 431 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: if they're gonna put six guys in the box. Now 432 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: everyone's saying the same thing, you know. I think it 433 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: was finally talked with Kingsbury in Chase Edmans and that was, yeah, 434 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: you look on paper, they're averaging four point x amount 435 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: over four yards of carry. You know, the numbers look good, 436 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: but they don't have those explosive plays or those long runs. 437 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: And they both think they're close. And Kyler said, basically, 438 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: they aren't being ignored. It's just to flow with the 439 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: game right now. And he said they're very unselfish guys. 440 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: They're not complaining and that's the good news. About this team. 441 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: You don't see anything from Larry Fitzer about how many 442 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: targets Larry wants to win, you know, you know, so 443 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: for the most part, I mean, I do think they 444 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: want to get the running game going. And I think 445 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: people look at last week and they say, this is 446 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: a thirty second team in the in the NFL. But 447 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: once again, when you're behind the stix, you're forced to 448 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: throw it more than you want to run it. And 449 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: that's why I think it's important for this team to 450 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: play with the lead well, and we saw it the 451 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: week prior on how the Cardinals ended the game and 452 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: with the running game because Kenyan Drake had four straight 453 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: runs in Week two to kind of seal that victory 454 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals against Washington. But you said it, you're 455 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: not able to do what you want to do offensively, 456 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: open up the if it's out of rhythm, out of sink, 457 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: you're stopping, you're starting, or you've got to play it 458 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: catch up. If this team, and it might be true 459 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: for every team, if you can play with the lead, 460 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you have more at your disposal. 461 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: When I say play with the lead, I just like 462 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: when they when they go hurry up. I like that 463 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: Murray up offense, and I think he's at his best 464 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: maybe because it's not so much thinking it's improvising, but 465 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: also playing it within the frame of the offense. I 466 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: think that gets as juice is going and when they 467 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: get a big play, you know, they run to the 468 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: ball and the defense now has got to try to 469 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: figure it out. And I think they really that's kind 470 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: of like they're a jump starter. That's like their battery 471 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,479 Speaker 1: to get that offense going. You can't do it all 472 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: the time. You can't go three and out. But when 473 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: I say you play for league, all of a sudden, 474 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 1: let's say they're able to score seven points out that 475 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: the other team feels like, man, that was a quick drive. 476 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: Now it could be three and a half four minutes. 477 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: They I think the other team said, well, we got 478 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: to counter that, and if you can get them off 479 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: the field, Cardinals feel like we get a good field 480 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: position and we can keep it going, you know, like 481 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: build momentum. But in order to do that, Craig, they've 482 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: got to be in rhythm. It can't be one one 483 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: nun possession or one drive. It's got to be clicking 484 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: and to be honest, I still think it's another week, 485 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, because people, I'm nobody likes the preseason. I 486 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: get it when I hear veteran players like Chandler Jones 487 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: and other players, even Kyler Murray, DeAndre Hopkins, they need 488 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: a preseason. Whether they play in the fourth preseason game 489 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: or not, you're going against other competition. We talk about 490 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: joint practices. So in Cliff admitted he's been watching film 491 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: on cutoffs and the game isn't It's been a little 492 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: bit more sloppy. They've cut down on the penalties. I 493 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: think they're letting these guys play, but without having a 494 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: true offseason. I think we're starting to see it now. 495 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: They've scored more points, more touchdowns than any other three 496 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: week season. So it's just interesting how things are shaken out. 497 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: But I still think we're a week away from really 498 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: this offense clicking. Now that should not make an excuse. 499 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: You go there and try to win the football game 500 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: because everyone's dealing with this. Yes, and that's an important 501 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: distinction because none of the players, when that excuse has 502 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: been brought up, completely downplayed it. Now you bring up 503 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury as far as this being a preseason for him. 504 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: He needs to get into a rhythm as far as 505 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: play calling is concerned, figuring out the pieces. Yeah, the 506 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: only really new piece is DeAndre Hopkins. But this is 507 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 1: year two. What worked, what didn't work? And I'll go 508 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: back to something that you've been harping on since he 509 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: got hurt, and I hear Ron willfully talk about it 510 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: all the time. With respect to the run game, which 511 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: sets up the pass game, the absence of Max Williams 512 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: could not be overlooked in this situation. Yeah, they're averaging 513 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: four point seven yards a game, but Kyler Murray is 514 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: accounting for more than forty percent of the rushing yards 515 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: for this team. And yes, it's been successful twice, not 516 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: so successful on Sunday against the Lions. But you do 517 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: want to see Kenyan, Drake, Chase Edmonds get going and 518 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: I think hopefully, as we said a week ago, hopefully 519 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: it's this week. Yeah, because you can't rely on Kyler's running. 520 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean you can pencil him in twenty five thirty yards, 521 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: but that's again it's more improvising. You know, I always 522 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: mentioned Max and probably doing a disservice, but I think 523 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: it's also a compote when I say meat and potatoes guy. 524 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: I mean that's what he is, and he's fine with 525 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: that role. And he was a rewarded with a contract extension. 526 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: He's just has more experience than Arnold and Daniels and Thomas. 527 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: And you know, he's he's played on different teams and 528 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: he's been coached differently, so he's got a different style 529 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: to him. And he's a tough guy. I mean not 530 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: saying that Dan, Arnold and Daniels and Thomas aren't tough. 531 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: I mean this guy he's willing to He's he's willing 532 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: to get dirty on sound days and so I think 533 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: they miss him and that could be why because when 534 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: we talk about getting into the second layer, you know, 535 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: a guy like Max Williams, if he can hold containment 536 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: on the outside to seal the guys, that's where the 537 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: guards start pulling and he can get to the second 538 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: layer and that's where a five yard run becomes a 539 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: thirteen yard run. So but he's not coming back, you know. 540 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: That's that's that's something that I think that it's it's 541 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: under the radar, but to me, I've watched his team 542 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: and it's very noticeable. Yeah, the last health update we 543 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: received was from general manager Steve Com one week ago 544 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: Friday on Doug and Wolf on ninety eight seven FM, 545 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: Arizona Sports station. Said to be midseason now, is midseason 546 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: week five? Is mid season week ten? Who knows, but 547 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: it is certainly an absence that is not going to 548 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: show up on a stat sheets and for some you're 549 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: gonna look and well he's not there. Just plug in 550 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: the next guy, a different skill set and knowing what 551 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: your role is and how to get off your blocks 552 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: or get to the second level with the second block 553 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: to spring Drake or Edmonds free or even a Kyler Murray. 554 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: That's where I think this run game is the next 555 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: step for it, and it has to be even without 556 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: Max Williams on the field. Well you know, whether it's 557 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: before or after the bye week, the fact that he's 558 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: on the radar, that that's that only can get better. 559 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: Now if you want to me to back up what 560 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying about Max Williams, look or he was great 561 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: at last year as a tight end and then he 562 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: was in the top three, he was in the eighties 563 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: just blocking. I mean, he's not He's not a guy 564 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: that's gonna run a forty. We know that he can 565 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: catch ball in the traffic. He had to drop last 566 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: year when it was in the sun. Yeah, but the 567 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: fact that they may get him back, I mean, but 568 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: right now they got to kind of figure it out. 569 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: Is that better going with the loving person or ten personnel? 570 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: That is that why they're going four to four wide, 571 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: because to me, when you go four wide, the biggest 572 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: issue is you have to protect the edges. And that's 573 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: why I don't think Cliff's going full born ten personnel. 574 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: I think he knows you got to go eleven personnel, 575 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: three wide, one tight, one back. He can go twelve personnel, 576 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,479 Speaker 1: two tight ends, two wide at one back. You have 577 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: to protect the edges and the only thing that plant 578 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: going for wide, which you want to spread out. Kyle 579 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: gets rid of the ball. He's getting rid of the 580 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: ball like two point one, seven to two. But that's 581 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: the only problem. And I think if Max Williams was 582 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: in there, they would go a lot with three wide receivers, 583 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: one tight, one back. I'll say this though, Darrell Daniels, 584 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: I think I don't know depth chart wise, but he 585 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: is certainly someone that is a better blocker than Dan Arnold. 586 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: And we did see Kyler Murray look to Daniels a 587 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: couple of different times on Sunday, made some great catches 588 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: on the right flat, gained some positive yards. So perhaps 589 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: he's developing and showing improvement to where you see him 590 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: more on the field than a Dan Arnold because a 591 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: lot of Arnold snaps he split as a wide receiver. Yeah, 592 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: and that's a good point because he's got the body. 593 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: I was intrigued with him last year and he plays 594 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: on teams, but now now you can go twelve personnel 595 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: and have him at the edge, and then you can 596 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: also have you know, Dan Arnold kind of chip and 597 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: go out, so that gives another option. So the fact 598 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: that they're not I mean they're willing to play two 599 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: tight ends to me, and Thomas is just younger. So 600 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: now I thought Daniels showed last year. I definitely think 601 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: he's much more physical and he's a better blocker than Arnold. 602 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: But you know there's a drop off. But these guys 603 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: at least they got some playing time, and you know, 604 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: as the offense starts to unfold, we'll see how how 605 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: and what kind of roles they have. Again, I want 606 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: to see Arnold catch the ball, but you can't have 607 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: those penalties like he's had, it's it's cost his team 608 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: some negative arts well, and it's going to cost him 609 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: playing time as well, because the further you get in 610 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: the season, you just can't afford those mistakes, especially if 611 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: it's the same mistakes being made all of a sudden, 612 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna find yourself as a spectator as opposed to 613 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: on the field. And with respect to those big plays 614 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: on the ground, those long runs, Kingsbury was asked about 615 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,719 Speaker 1: it earlier today and said, quote, those plays will come end, 616 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: quote meaning that they feel like they're close. And I 617 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: think if you want to look at what happened on 618 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: Sunday as far as Kenyan Drake had three plays, three 619 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: rushing plays of ten or more yards eleven, fifteen, and 620 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: fourteen and at fourteen. One came in the fourth quarter 621 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 1: on that final drive. It's just unfortunate that it didn't 622 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: go anywhere. So when you talk about being this close, 623 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,959 Speaker 1: you can't keep saying it week in and week out. 624 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: Yet the Cardinals need to get over the hump and 625 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: find some way to get the offense going because as 626 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: much as Cardinal fans want to sit there and pick 627 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: apart the defense and defensive coordinator Vance Joseph. You know, 628 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: for me, it always going to come back to the offense, 629 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: especially when your head coach is an offensive mind. And 630 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray the number one overall pick, he's gonna get 631 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: the praise, he's going to get the criticism. So right 632 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: now it's all on his shoulders for this team. Well, 633 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: when they say it's close, means that they're seeing stuff 634 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: on film that maybe it's you know, making a block here, 635 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: you know, extending your block a little bit longer. So 636 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: they must be seeing stuff. But you know, football's timing, 637 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: and every week it's a different opponent and they're going 638 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: to attack you differently, but they must be seeing stuff 639 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 1: to where they feel it's close. And I got that 640 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: impression from DJ Humphreys, got that impression from Cliff Kingsbury, 641 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: got that impression from Kyler Murray, and again he gives 642 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: credit to Drake and Evans because they're unselfish guys. I 643 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: mean that tells me, you know, the importance is to 644 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: win out Obviously, when you're out there, you got to 645 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: take advantage of your opportunity. But I'm glad you brought 646 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: up those three runs because you know, if you look 647 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: at your average yards per carry. You know, they're all 648 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,959 Speaker 1: doing well on paper, it's just breaking off that long run. 649 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: And I think it's a matter of time whether it 650 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: happens this week, but I do see in the future though. Well, 651 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: Drake right now is at four point one yards per carry. 652 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: He finishes the season with that, and that's a successful season. 653 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: It's just we haven't seen him play a large parts 654 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: in moving the ball up and down the field. He 655 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: hasn't wowed us, if you will, like he did so 656 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: many times when he first got here last season. And 657 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he needs to rush for one hundred 658 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: yards on Sundays. It just means like, oh, okay, there's 659 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: there's a nice game of fifteen and it helps it 660 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: up this scoring drive and it was a five place 661 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: scoring drive led by the Russian attack. I don't think 662 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: we've been able to say that a lot unless you're 663 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: talking about inside the red zone. And that's when Kenyan, 664 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: that's when Kyle Murray's been so successful. Well, when you know, 665 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: again playing to a lead, you don't win the coin toss, 666 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: you know, obviously trying to make a stop because you 667 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 1: double up possibly scoring before the half and then deferring 668 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: the ball. But that that forty nine Ers game, he 669 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: was so explosive in the fourth quarter because they had 670 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: the lead. That's what that's what they want to do. 671 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not going to take his foot off 672 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: the gas. He's not going to get conservative. Obviously, they're 673 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: gonna come after you. If they're trailing, they're gonna try 674 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: to punch the ball out. But I thought that that 675 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 1: was a recipe for what this team could do, playing 676 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: close to the best or at least playing you know, 677 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: exchanging touchdowns, and then towards the end, you know, get 678 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 1: an eight point lead. So it's a two possession or 679 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: nine game rank point leads a two possession game where 680 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,959 Speaker 1: you can wear him down. So I think that's the plan. 681 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: It's just every game is different. It's funny, you got 682 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, Larry Fitzgerald, Christian Kirk, Andy, Isabella Huh, John Johnson, 683 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: and we're talking about a running game and getting the 684 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: run game going. But it's all predicated on that year. 685 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: At every single week, what does Vans Joseph say, Gotta 686 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: stop the run, gotta make a team one dimensional, And yeah, 687 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: you can be a great passing attack, but putting the 688 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: ball in the air. More mistakes can happen when that 689 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: ball is thrown versus when you hand the ball off 690 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: to a running back. Hey, do you want to go 691 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: back to last year when the Cardinals played out Not 692 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: so much who the quarterback was, but do you remember 693 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: who probably was the best player on the field that 694 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: day against Carolina last year? Christian McCaffrey. Oh okay, Well, 695 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: I thought you met on the Cardinals bringing it up. 696 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: He's not playing this week. You're talking about stopping the 697 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: run and I don't want to see anybody injured. I'm serious, 698 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: but don't even though they're backups. Soon there's you know, 699 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 1: we we We've got a chance to see Latavius Murray 700 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, right yep. And they all 701 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 1: those running backs think they think at their touches, So 702 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: that's gonna be another big factor. They just don't have 703 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 1: the guy that can catch the ball the backfield, because 704 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: let's be honest, he is a mismatch in the secondary. McCaffrey, Well, 705 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: that's a great tease for tomorrow's show, MJ. Because Thursday, 706 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Vans Joseph addresses the media and Wolf have 707 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: to wait until then. To hear what he has to 708 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: say about a Panther's offense that is missing perhaps the 709 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: biggest piece in the NFL, and that is an absence 710 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 1: of Christian McCaffrey. Bird Gang. Subscribe to Arizona Cardinals podcast 711 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcast, Stitcher, and SoundCloud. Listen 712 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: to your favorite shows on the go like Cardinals Underground, 713 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: The Big Red Raves, The Cardinals Red Sea Report, and 714 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: of course this show, Cardinals Cover two. Visitaisy Cardinals dot 715 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: com Slash podcast for more information. All right, I'm Jay. 716 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: So if it's not Christian McCaffrey, who do you think 717 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: Coach Joseph is going to single out tomorrow? Well, you 718 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: gotta start with the quarterback, Teddy Bridgewater. You know they 719 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: got Robbie Anderson, and you know they're probably gonna go 720 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: running back by committee filling in for Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, 721 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be an interesting matchup because once again we're 722 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: talking about on paper, the Cardinals are a better team. Now, 723 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: I just got to go execute like you're the bet 724 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: of team this week. And on that note, we will 725 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two 726 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: presented by Hunday partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, 727 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim Amandro For Mike Jarecki, 728 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 1: I'm freg Reel Loup. We'll talk to you next time. 729 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: Eron Cardinals Cover two