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Speaker 1: daily meditation on the Chopper Apps. So those are just

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Speaker 1: We seek to connect with the awakened mind and heart

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Speaker 1: of how and and you're you're you said you were

430
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: connected to UM like Indian deity. So there's a bit

431
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: of that there. But but how m orgasmic death is

432
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: going to be for us? Walking around telling my mom like,

433
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, the best thing we get to do

434
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: as humans is die, right, So my mom's like, can

435
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: you not say that you might terrify everyone. I was

436
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: like to explain to her that it's um ecstasy, but

437
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: I didn't have the words for it. Right, the best

438
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: feeling you ever get to feel. And you know, like

439
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: I remember that feeling, and I felt that way until

440
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: I had children on my own, and then I was like,

441
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: oh gosh, I gotta stay here right Like, I was like,

442
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't like look forward to death the

443
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: way that I had, you know, and it was just

444
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: really interesting. Um you know, so I have kind of

445
00:30:52,880 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: a mix now, probably a healthy mix. Oh myga, it's

446
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: so like, I so get what you say. But isn't

447
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: it so funny to say it out loud? It's it's

448
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: really funny. And like to just even imagine one of

449
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: my kids saying that to me, I it would be

450
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: pretty strange. I feel like, wait, wait, no honey, let's wait,

451
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: let's enjoy while we're here. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that that's

452
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: the piece that I find myself really um m m.

453
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: The word isn't leaning into but just sitting with more

454
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: and more, especially in this last year of like, um,

455
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, being alive is challenging. Being alive is challenging,

456
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: Being in Earth school is challenging. It's a wild, wild place. Yeah,

457
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: oh my lord, you know it is. It's a wild,

458
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: wild place and we're all having this one shared experience

459
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: while having billions of individual experiences that that the rest

460
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: of us know nothing about. So it is it is

461
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: the chaotic energy as much as there is harmony available,

462
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: you know. And and this last really, this last year especially,

463
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: I've been kind of integrating with myself to come into

464
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: more of a peace um or, as one of our

465
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: shared teachers, Dr Ron Holnick has said to me, before

466
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: coming into a space of unbearable compassion, which is the

467
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: kind of compassion that Christ felt. You know, the unbearable

468
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: compassion is deep understanding and knowing that people really are

469
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: doing their best from their level of consciousness, their level

470
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: of heart expansion, but that a lot of people are

471
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: battling things that will never be uttered aloud, that only

472
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: exists NonStop in their own minds and in their own hearts.

473
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: Um and coming to into a self focus while also

474
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: coming into an external radiating that compassion is available. Compassion

475
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: is available. Yeah, yeah, And what what a blessing when

476
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: when you come into contact with someone who is radiating

477
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: compassion mm hmm, it is such a blessing. I was

478
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: I was just having a conversation with Yadi um Or,

479
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: and you know, I was talking about there was there

480
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: was this none um named Marguerite. I can't remember her name,

481
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: but it was in the fourteen hundreds, and she wrote

482
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: a book that was about God being love and she

483
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: was burnt at the stake for writing that because it

484
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: was against the Bible at that time, and just you

485
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: know it, to me, I was wow, just saying that

486
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: God is love? Right to me, that seems like the

487
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: most beautiful thing to say. And like that. There there

488
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: have been so many souls that have come before us

489
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: that have been connected to this divine source, sharing things

490
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: and in times where UM which which is interesting because

491
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: I had brought this up in at us M with

492
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: Ron and Mary and UM because we were talking about

493
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: how many of us who are in this in the

494
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: course of UM for those of you who don't know,

495
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: we did our our masters and spiritual psychology, that many

496
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: of us are are coming from lifetimes where we were

497
00:34:53,520 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: killed for speaking out M that nerve business or the

498
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: feeling like I can't say this or else I'm gonna

499
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: be burnt at the stake, i can't share this, or

500
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: else I'm going to be attacked. And it feels even

501
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: deeper than just like knowing it. It's like in the

502
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: soul and so just I guess I'm just feeling a

503
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: gratitude for those of us who are doing it right now.

504
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: Who are the words of our soul and sharing home,

505
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: sharing our version of home in this energy that can

506
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: be so chaotic. Yeah, yeah, wow that you know, the

507
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: historical violence of religion is astounding. It's astounding. It's astounding

508
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: the way that God was weabinized through history um to

509
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: take on more of a punishment angle. You know, God

510
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: is love, but in those times, like in the fourteen hundreds,

511
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: religion was such a weapon and there was so much violence,

512
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: especially within the Christian community, happening globally. So it's like

513
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: to come with a message that God is Love at

514
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 1: that time would have taken away power because it would

515
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: have taken out the middleman, and it would have said,

516
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, no, you need you need to be in

517
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: fear seven so that we can control you. So you

518
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: have to believe that God will punish you. You have

519
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: to believe that God is somehow always disappointed with you.

520
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: You know. It was kind of like the first narcissistic

521
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: abuse that took place and using God as the authority

522
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: figure within which to do that, and how you know,

523
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: and and then the trajectory that that sets on human consciousness,

524
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: human intellect, human psyche. For hundreds of years to follow. Ah,

525
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean that is that in and of itself needs

526
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: a whole documentary, like that in and of itself needs

527
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: a book. Needs is something you know, demystifying why throughout

528
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: history God has had such a complexity and relating to

529
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: when it really is simple. God is love, God is

530
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: divine love. When we're all pieces of God's energy manifest

531
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: here you are. You are a multidimensional, multimodality healer. And

532
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: I so relate to that because I am an ever

533
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: curious being that is like obsessed with constant learning. Um.

534
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: And I just love piecing together so many of the

535
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: different just bars of gold that have been found in

536
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: so many beliefs and so many different techniques from different

537
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: corners of the earth. So a lot of people when

538
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: they hear of tantra, you know, they imagine maybe that

539
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: it just means, you know, this intense kind of sex,

540
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: this intense kind of sexual experience. But Tanta has really

541
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: this uh divine discipline um. And so I would just

542
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: love to hear how you found your path to tantra

543
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: and what that work really is. Yeah. So what what

544
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: it actually is is the the balance between masculine and

545
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: feminine energy that starts within us. So for most of

546
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: the practices in the beginning, it's with with yourself, right,

547
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: like it's balancing that energy within ourselves. But for me,

548
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: the way that I found myself to to um tantra

549
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: was from um. I was I was actually healing from

550
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: being molested what we were talking about earlier, and I

551
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 1: was a journey of healing. And I made a documentary

552
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: called Touched and it it was being shown in New

553
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: York at a theater in New York, and there was

554
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: this healer named um Is Adora who was in the

555
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: audience and she's she's now passed away, She's she was amazing.

556
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: She was a brilliant contra coach, and she was in

557
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: the audience. And when I was done, she was like,

558
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: oh yeah, all of this healing, you know, this is

559
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: amazing what you're doing. Um your next step is tantra.

560
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 1: And my whole like I got that whole thing again

561
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: where I was like, no way, right, Like I just

562
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: got nervous, and what I thought about was what you

563
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: were saying, you know, like all of these you know,

564
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: sex moves, learning the sex moves, and you know, she's

565
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: and I just had this whole skewed vision. As soon

566
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: as she said that, I was like, oh, no, I

567
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: definitely And at that moment she was like, no, I

568
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: want you to see. I will gift you as she

569
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: was doing a workshop that weekend in New York, and

570
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: she was like, I will gift you the workshop so

571
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: you can see what it is, what I'm talking about.

572
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: It was absolutely the next natural step on my path

573
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: as soon I got in there, like just the way

574
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: it was all like these these different breathing techniques, all

575
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: about intimacy, intimacy with yourself, intimacy with another. And like

576
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: you said, when so many of us we we don't

577
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: we haven't grown up with this true intimacy. And how

578
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: do you be intimate, you know, even with people at work, right,

579
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: like having that intimate connection. And and that doesn't mean

580
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: sleeping with people at work. That's not what I meant. No,

581
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: But and and that's the thing too, write intimacy. Sex

582
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: is one of the arms of the path of intimacy.

583
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: Intimacy is it's really your authentic self fully in front

584
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: of another, whether that means a friendship, whether that means

585
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: whether that means a stranger on the street. You know,

586
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: I show up an intimacy every day with everyone I know, yes, yes, absolutely,

587
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: And so once once I dove in, like I I

588
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: did that workshop and then I straight up went to

589
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: l A and did the whole course because I was like, me,

590
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm doing the whole course. And it was so interesting

591
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: because there were quite a few people in the course,

592
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: and I would I was sitting, you know, kind of

593
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: in the middle towards the side, and the whole time

594
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: some was staring at me. There was not one moment

595
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: where she wasn't like locking eyes with me. Me, and

596
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: and so I couldn't even like, you know, sometimes sometimes

597
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 1: when I'm in a course, I want to like maybe

598
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: doze off for a second, let my subconscious take it

599
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: in right right right. I had to be like and

600
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: she was like, you are going to be the one

601
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: who takes it into the world, and I'm like me, well,

602
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm just doing this from my personal healing, you know.

603
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm because at the time I was the editor in

604
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: chief of Heart and Soul, and so I was like,

605
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't going to be sharing sex work

606
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: out in the world. That's not wasn't my plan at

607
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: the point. So I was just like and she just

608
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 1: kept saying that, and then there was this The most

609
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: powerful part to me was, um, you know, she just

610
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: was like, Anita, have you spoken to the person who

611
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: molested you? And I was like no, no. She's like,

612
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: you haven't told them how it has affected you, you know,

613
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: your whole life. And I'm like no, and she's like, okay, um,

614
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, bring your phone up here. Brought me to

615
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: this front of the class and she was like, call

616
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: him and I was like, uh, I don't have his number.

617
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: It was someone in my family, right. I was like,

618
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: I don't have his number and they're like, you have

619
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: his Facebook and I was like yeah, They're like. She

620
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: basically made me send him a message on Facebook saying

621
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: that I need to have a conversation with you. I

622
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: like to tell you the amount of sweat that was

623
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: coming out of my body so I can still feel it.

624
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: I was so scared. And he called me that night.

625
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: We had the most profound conversation I've ever had. He

626
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: was like, I've been waiting to have this conversation my

627
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: whole life. I've been waiting to apologize and you know,

628
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: like and he had explained that, you know, perhaps his

629
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: lines were blurred because the same thing happened to him

630
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: when he was younger, and um, and he's been so

631
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, basically, it was his moment to apologize, you know,

632
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: and it was my moment to know how it has

633
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: affected me my whole life. And she was like, remember,

634
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: you're going on there as a forty year old woman,

635
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: like you are not the seven year old girl. Connect

636
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: to that forty year old woman learned all of these

637
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 1: things because she knew that, you know, I would regress

638
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: as soon as I talked to him, right, and m

639
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: Never in my life did I think that conversation what happened.

640
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: I didn't even actually, it wasn't even a possibility had

641
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: I didn't think about it. And um, and he had

642
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: seen all the work I've done with zero evs given,

643
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: so he he already knew, right, he knew he was

644
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: a catalyst of all of that. Um but he just

645
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: got to say that he was proud of me for

646
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: the work. But um, so I got to a point

647
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: of feeling like the whole thing had turned into a blessing. Wow, Yeah,

648
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: we didn't know we were diving in this deep girl,

649
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: or maybe I think you knew. I just like I'm

650
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: sitting right now in the freedom that I know was

651
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: spelt by a lot of people that just heard your words. UM,

652
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: really I really want to honor that, and I want

653
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: to honor I just really want to honor your courage.

654
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: I want to honor You're gorgeous open heart m hm,

655
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: because that is wow. You know, I recognize in that statement,

656
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: not just the healing that that brought to you, but

657
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: the healing that that extended it on a soul level

658
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: to so many, to so many, and you know, just

659
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: even and and we're going to move into this piece

660
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, UM speaking about zero f's given. But it's

661
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: just you know, holding that that multiple things can be

662
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: true at once, right, Like something that was profoundly, profoundly wrong,

663
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: profoundly devastating, UM, a massive betrayal, and it birthed the

664
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: greatest work of your life in so many ways. It

665
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: birthed healing and freedom to so many people around the

666
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: world because you exist and because you said yes to yourself,

667
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: and because you didn't stand in shame, because you funneled

668
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: all of it and too hard expansion something so much

669
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: bigger than you. UM. And so that kind of that's

670
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: what's coursing through me right now. As I heard that

671
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: story is just um a deep reverence, the deep reverence

672
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: for your experiences and for your life. And thank you,

673
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: thank you for everything that you just said I'm receiving. Wow. Wow.

674
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: And I just, you know, to be quite honest, when

675
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: you started telling that story, the teacher and me got

676
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: really scared. Like when when when I heard that she

677
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: was pulling you in front of people and said do

678
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: it right now, do it right now? Like my heart

679
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: like clinched and I was just like no, no, no,

680
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: like you know, um, But then hearing the way it unfolded,

681
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: it just like I think that there's such a gorgeous

682
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: permission that things can actually go better than we fathom

683
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: when we pushed through fear right. And and either way,

684
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: whether he had been receptive and open to that conversation,

685
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: whether he had been apologetic or not, um, it was

686
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: still about your voice and your freedom and irregardless of

687
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: his response, this would have created so much space in

688
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: your life. Yeah. And you know, I feel to me

689
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: just a way because some did take her own life,

690
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: and I feel like she was on a timeline. Like

691
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: so when you're saying the teacher was like wait, no, right,

692
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: she was like I need to do this now because

693
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: I need to ask this on like she was on

694
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: a timeline and um, so yeah, it did feel a

695
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of her teaching was very harsh,

696
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: but it was it was in divine timing, and it

697
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: was what my soul needed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And

698
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: even I mean that illustrates even yet another beautiful point

699
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: about this spiritual path as especially those that may be

700
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: called um to be on this spiritual path in a

701
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: way that you're meant to then teach in the future.

702
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: It's like you're you. You'll come into different systems that

703
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: you feel connected to and and maybe different teachers, and

704
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: it's really about still, you know, connecting to what is

705
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: best for you in those moments and and having the

706
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: opportunity to take with you what fits and to leave

707
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: behind what doesn't. You know that that there can even

708
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: in some of these environments that you may not be

709
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: connecting to all the teachers or all the teachings, you know,

710
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: sometimes there is still so much gold in it for us.

711
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: UM and myself has felt have felt that way with

712
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: different teachers where there's been a lot of things that

713
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: I've said, uh no, wait a minute, or actually hold

714
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,479
Speaker 1: on and then at the same time it's like, oh wow,

715
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: I've never thought of that, or oh my god, did

716
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: that create one of the greatest healings I've ever had

717
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: inside of myself. Um, so multiple things can be true

718
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: in all the ways. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I would love

719
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 1: to talk about zero F's Given. We had a chance

720
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: to explore it just slightly in our in our lives

721
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: taping together. But can you tell me about this movement

722
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: that you've created. Absolutely so this one night, so so

723
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: many of my ideas come through when I'm sleeping in

724
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: dream world, right, And I woke up from this dream

725
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: where I saw the logo zero Epps Given. And I

726
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: woke up and I wrote it down, and I wrote,

727
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: you know that it was going to be a day

728
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: where everyone who's participating in the movement, it's a day

729
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: of sexual abstinence, So zero f skiving literally on that

730
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: day in honor of anyone um who has experienced any

731
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: sort of sexual violence. Right. And I wrote it down

732
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: and I went back to sleep, and I forgot about

733
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: it when I woke up, right. And then one other day,

734
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm going through my journal and I see it and

735
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, and I just I was.

736
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, this needs to be done,

737
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: like this is and it's and it's a movement that

738
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: um So, this this happened before, like the idea came

739
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: in before the me too movement, right, like this idea

740
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: of it. So I was like this, this is just

741
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: like such a beautiful way for people to just be

742
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: like right, like me, it happened to me, me the

743
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: me too like in the process of me um you know,

744
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: putting it together and figuring it out, me too came

745
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: out and I was like, yes, right, like feeling like

746
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: I was on you know when you feel like you're

747
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: on that that wave of of conscious what what is it?

748
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: It's almost like of collective consciousness? Right but wait, okay,

749
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: this I was on the wave. I knew this was coming,

750
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: even though I didn't know it was coming, and so,

751
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: um So, I ended up doing Zeros Given and it

752
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: was at first it was a T shirt campaign and

753
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: I helped raise money for I'm on the board of

754
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: the Center for Safety and Change and Thattion in New York,

755
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 1: where we help people who have gone through domestic violence,

756
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: who have been raped, who have been trafficked, And um so,

757
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: I first, did you know. Um, I first was giving

758
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: the money to them, and then they encourage They were like,

759
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: you can actually make your own organization, you know, and

760
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: and so they encouraged me to make it my own nonprofit.

761
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: And what I do with my nonprofit that I think

762
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: is really beautiful is that I provide these spaces of

763
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: healing for people of color who are going through their

764
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: healing journey of healing, you know, healing from sexual trauma.

765
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: And um, you know, because every retreat that I had

766
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: got I know you've probably experienced this, but before every

767
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: retreat I went to, every workshop I went to, I

768
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: was the only black girl girl and always always, and

769
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: I was like, what is happening like this? You know

770
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: this either we don't know about it, you know, like

771
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: it just felt like it felt unfair, you know. I

772
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: was just like, what, you know, why are these spaces here?

773
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: And so I was like it was actually, Um. I

774
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: went to one of my friends events called Goddess on

775
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: the Go in the city and it was the first

776
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: time that I went in and it was at least

777
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: half black women in there. And I was like because

778
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: even at heart and soul, I was like this, you know,

779
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: like we need to create more of these healing spaces

780
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: and so um so now and what has been really

781
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: amazing is the retreat I just lad um with Goddess

782
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: Wisdom counsel in Mexico. Charlemagne he sponsored to of the

783
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: the the participants through got through zero F's given so too,

784
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: two black survivors, and so they were able to experience

785
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: this lavish retreat do healing in this beautiful space and

786
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, like it was just so amazing and I'm like,

787
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: this is what I want to do. I want to

788
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: create these spaces where um it's like the lavish part

789
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: is really important for them to feel spoiled and just

790
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,479
Speaker 1: saying is taking care of you don't have to worry

791
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: about food, you don't gotta worry about your kids, you

792
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: don't want to worry about anything, right, Like it's just

793
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: all taken care of, and it's you're just here now

794
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: to heal. And the amount of spirit that black women

795
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: bring to heat like it was girl, it was like

796
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: the the the amount of healing that was happening. Obviously

797
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: I can't say what happened, but it was like straight

798
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: up shamanic, like that's what it felt like. Yeah, one

799
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: was a part of it and I think that's one

800
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: of the beautiful things about our culture is that we're

801
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: very vocal, right, and so it's not like it's not

802
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: like we're an audience sitting and watching. We are in

803
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: it right, We're making noises. We are a part of

804
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: the healing. We know that it told up. We're a

805
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: part of this. We're in this right. And so, um, girl,

806
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: I don't even know where I just went. I don't

807
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: remember the question you questions, all the sad and unsaid questions,

808
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: yow yah. So how can how can the listeners connect

809
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: to zero F's given Yes, So I um, I have

810
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: I have zero F's given um website as zero F's

811
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: Given dot online. I believe I should know that, but

812
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: I know that it's actually on. It's a link on

813
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: my um my Instagram, which is my name Anita Copatch.

814
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: Copatch is spelled ko p A c Z, And in

815
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: my link tree, I have links to where you can donate,

816
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: links to where you can look it up, links to

817
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: where you can get a zero f s Given sweatshirt,

818
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: and like you know, show it off beautiful way and

819
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: just know that you know, all of the proceeds that

820
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: come through go towards creating these experiences. UM. During the pandemic,

821
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 1: I was able to give away many um UM grocery

822
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: call cards, you know, so that survivors, so that you know,

823
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: like I don't make people go jump through all kinds

824
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: of hoops in order to prove that there are certain

825
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,959
Speaker 1: you know, like there's no like gone through it because

826
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: to me, it's like if someone is saying it, I

827
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: I just I always believe them because I'm like, why

828
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: would someone make anything up like that? Why would you

829
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: why would you make it up? I just don't know.

830
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: But UM, so it is, you know, like I've I've

831
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm very passionate about that healing and that healing for

832
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: UM for black women in particular, because UM, it connects

833
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: us to our inner softness. I think that we've had

834
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: to be strong for so long and that it's time

835
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: for us to be in deep love with the world

836
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: that we see around us. It's time for us to

837
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: be soft inside. It's time for us to put ourselves first.

838
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: And UM, I'm super that's actually for me. This was

839
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: Shallow Waters was is my love letter to black women.

840
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: Um Anita, Anita, Anita, thank you, thank you so much

841
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: for coming on dropping gems It is always just deep

842
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: delight and joy for me, Um, to be in community

843
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: with you, to be in this shared energy field. If

844
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't on the other side of the US, I

845
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: would be like, I'm coming over, So I can't. I'm

846
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: gonna actually be out your way for a couple of

847
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: weeks in September, so I'm going to hit you up

848
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: and I hope to get UM. I hope we get

849
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: to get the more time together. So grateful for you

850
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: and so grateful for your work and everyone listening, and

851
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: please order now Shallow Waters if you haven't already an incredible,

852
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: incredible medicinal story. UM, that's gonna change your wife and

853
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: connect to zero f s given. But you can, as

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Speaker 1: Anita shared, go to her Instagram page click that Lincoln Bio.

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Speaker 1: That Lincoln bio will have all the various ways that

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Speaker 1: you can connect with her and her powerful work and

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Speaker 1: hopefully if you feel called Joiner at an event in

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Speaker 1: the future, Anita, we are so grateful, Thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: love you, love you. What a beautiful show with the

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Speaker 1: amazing Anita co Patch. I'm just so grateful every time

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Speaker 1: I get to be in conversation with her. UM, such

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Speaker 1: a powerful powerful force in the world. So now that

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Speaker 1: we've come to the end of the show, let's settle

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Speaker 1: into a little soul work. I want you to take

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Speaker 1: a moment and get comfortable if that's possible for you,

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Speaker 1: depending on where you are listening. You can also listen

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Speaker 1: through it and maybe take some notes on your phone

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Speaker 1: or highly recommend if you have some paper nearby that

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Speaker 1: pen in hand, ink to paper. There is so much

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Speaker 1: power in that. So if you have a journal nearby,

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Speaker 1: please grab it. So first, let's connect to now having

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Speaker 1: experienced this episode, it's always um such a magic to me.

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Speaker 1: What cards happened to come out to support the shows

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Speaker 1: completely by chance. So what let's resettle into what those

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Speaker 1: affirmations were that I read at the top of the show,

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Speaker 1: and just see, having now listen to this episode where

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Speaker 1: it lands, what it brings up, what you feel if

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Speaker 1: you feel connected to the words. So if you're able

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Speaker 1: to invite you to gently close your eyes again or

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Speaker 1: just hold a low gaze. Your eyes don't have to

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Speaker 1: be closed, but just try not to focus on anything

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Speaker 1: in particular. So the first affirmation I read, I am

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Speaker 1: open to receiving all that is necessary for my spiritual evolution.

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Speaker 1: I am open to receiving all that is necessary for

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Speaker 1: my spiritual evolution. Breathe here, who I am open to

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Speaker 1: receiving all that is necessary from my spiritual evolution. And

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Speaker 1: the second affirmation I pulled was I am building a

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Speaker 1: life of wholeness, not perfection. I am building a life

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Speaker 1: of wholeness not perfection. Breathe here, I am building a

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Speaker 1: life of wholeness, not perfection. And just take a second

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Speaker 1: to see what those meanings are holding free now in

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Speaker 1: this moment. Just take a couple of couple of brief

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Speaker 1: moments here to connect to the words, to connect to

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Speaker 1: whatever feeling is present now. Having listened to that episode,

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Speaker 1: we did talk about UM some pretty heavy things in

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Speaker 1: that episode. So if you're noticing something is coming up

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Speaker 1: for you, I just want to extend a permission to

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Speaker 1: be really deeply gentle with yourself. If there is some

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Speaker 1: things coming up, some new memories, some new access to

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Speaker 1: pieces of you, And for today's soul work, I want

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Speaker 1: to invite you to consider any conversations of completion that

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Speaker 1: you would like to have in your life. And sometimes

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Speaker 1: some of these outstanding conversations that we have UM, these

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Speaker 1: conversations that can really shift things for us. It may

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Speaker 1: not always be possible. You know. Sometimes the people that

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Speaker 1: you may intend to have conversations like this with may

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Speaker 1: not still exist on earth, or there may be other

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Speaker 1: barriers to getting to them, But that does not have

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Speaker 1: to stop the conversation from happening. So I wanted to

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Speaker 1: take a moment and just consider if there is anyone

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Speaker 1: in your life for absolutely any reason, maybe some that

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Speaker 1: were hurt on this episode and maybe not at all,

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Speaker 1: but a conversation for any reason, that your soul would

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Speaker 1: like to have about things that you experienced. And I

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Speaker 1: want you to just see what is in your awareness

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Speaker 1: for that now. If anyone is coming to mind, this

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Speaker 1: can be connected to your childhood, This could be connected

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Speaker 1: to your adolescence, to your young adult life, to your

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Speaker 1: mid adult life, to your late adult life, but anything

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Speaker 1: that feels present, I want you to take a moment

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Speaker 1: to write down whatever names popped out. Might just be one,

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Speaker 1: might be ten, might be fifteen, might be a conversation

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Speaker 1: you'd like to have with yourself of deep honesty and openness,

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Speaker 1: and just write down those names. And this is not

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Speaker 1: you saying you will have the conversation if you wish

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Speaker 1: that is open to you, and I really really support

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Speaker 1: you in that. But maybe it's just getting clear with

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Speaker 1: yourself out loud or writing on paper that something happened,

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Speaker 1: that there is something you'd like to say about it,

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Speaker 1: and just hold that intention, hold that intention that it's

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Speaker 1: a conversation of release and an opportunity to expand in

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Speaker 1: new ways, to create new space for yourself, and just

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Speaker 1: hold that in. And the soul work for today in

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Speaker 1: service to that is find some time to write right

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Speaker 1: for a full page. No one has to read it

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Speaker 1: if you don't want them to. You don't even have

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Speaker 1: to reread it if you don't wish to. But right

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Speaker 1: for a page, whatever you'd like to say to that

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Speaker 1: person or those people, or yourself whoever you identified, and

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Speaker 1: write it down. And if it feels comfortable to set

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Speaker 1: an intention that in divine alignment you'll be able to

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Speaker 1: actually have this conversation spoken aloud, then maybe call that

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Speaker 1: in if that's something you wish for, and ask for

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Speaker 1: divine alignment to cover a divine protection to cover it.

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Speaker 1: And then maybe until we meet again next week, maybe

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Speaker 1: there's opportunity each day to add a couple more lines

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Speaker 1: to whatever you're writing. Around that whatever unfinished business feels present,

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Speaker 1: write a few more lines to it every day and

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Speaker 1: then ask for guidance to come in and what you

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Speaker 1: should do with what has just been an earth to

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Speaker 1: what should do with this access to your voice pace

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Speaker 1: that you have in this way and see where that

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Speaker 1: guides you. And if you need support in this process,

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Speaker 1: please ask for it. If you need support in this process,

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Speaker 1: please seek it out. Mm hmm okay, well that is

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Speaker 1: our show. Thank you so much for joining. This is

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Speaker 1: the Dropping Gym's podcast. Hit me up on the Graham

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Speaker 1: Debbie Brown at Debbie Brown UM on all social media,

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Speaker 1: d M me uh and I will join you again

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Speaker 1: here next week big love and I'm a stay Hey.

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Speaker 1: The Black Effect Network. It's produced by Jack Queens and

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