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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Second out of the Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show is here. Thanks for joining us. Everybody

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Speaker 1: we have with us now, Devinnunis. He is former chairman

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Speaker 1: Media and Technology Group. Devin, great to have you on

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Speaker 1: the program. Hey, it's great to be with you guys.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Joe, I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: before we get into the latest social media platform battles,

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Speaker 1: the fight for free speech, major issues that we are

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Speaker 1: talking about here day in and day out. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's this Susman trial going on right now. You are

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Speaker 1: on the forefront of trying to get to the truth

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Speaker 1: of Russia collusion. This lawyer Sussman is the guy who

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Speaker 1: allegedly lied to the FBI as part of the origins

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Speaker 1: of the Russia collusion story. Do you have any hope

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Speaker 1: for justice here and what do you want people to

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Speaker 1: know about Susman's role in getting all of that anti

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Speaker 1: Trump Russia nonsens going. Well, first off, there's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of breaking news here just in the last few minutes,

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Speaker 1: and that is that one of them there's already a

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Speaker 1: problem with a contaminated jury in terms of Clinton supporters,

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Speaker 1: AOC reporters. Obviously you have the whole Washington DC cesspool

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Speaker 1: where you have the people there didn't vote for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: But with that said, now we have a juror that

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Speaker 1: Durham moved to remove because the daughter of the juror

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Speaker 1: is friends with Susman's daughter. So this has just become

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Speaker 1: a complete cesspool where you've got the judge's wife is

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Speaker 1: the lawyer for Lisa Page, who was one of the

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Speaker 1: love birds involved at the DJ and FBI part of

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Speaker 1: the dirty cop cabal. So Durham really has his work

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Speaker 1: to do. This is just a thin flipper of the

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Speaker 1: entire conspiracy and its just with Susman. So all of

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Speaker 1: these cast of characters were involved, right, So we made

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Speaker 1: during our investigation that FRO called is open, we made

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Speaker 1: fourteen criminal referrals involving dozens of people. Durham brought something

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Speaker 1: just very narrow and it appears like i mean, from

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Speaker 1: all just outside looking in now that you know, this

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Speaker 1: is just getting to be a ridiculous uphill climb for

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Speaker 1: John Durham because of all these incestuous relationships that you

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Speaker 1: have in the belt Way there. We appreciate you coming on, Congressmen,

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Speaker 1: and we know that Obviously, there's been an addition to

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Speaker 1: all of the craziness going on with the Russia collusion

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Speaker 1: hoax and everything surrounding it and how it became a story.

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Speaker 1: Twitter obviously, and Elon Musk has been at the top

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Speaker 1: of many people's minds, including what Donald Trump may or

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Speaker 1: may not do if Elon Musk makes this acquisition and

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Speaker 1: regains control and invites the President back on Twitter. I

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Speaker 1: think he said that he wouldn't use it. Would it

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Speaker 1: actually benefit truth social In your mind if the President

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Speaker 1: did use Twitter and link back every time that he

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Speaker 1: set out a tweet and said, oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: you should also come and sign up, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: got eighty five million or whatever he had Twitter users?

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Speaker 1: Or in your mind, should Trump only use truths social

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Speaker 1: kind of sea and then discuss from your perspective the

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Speaker 1: interplay between these two social networks. Yeah, I think one

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Speaker 1: of the challenges we have here is that you've got

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Speaker 1: nine The media is completely fake and so largely what

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Speaker 1: myself and Donald Trump have been saying, you know, since

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Speaker 1: I took you know, the helm of the company here

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Speaker 1: yesterday we're wide open. Anybody can go to Truthsocial dot

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Speaker 1: com and sign up. Despite what's been written and very clear, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're supportive of Elon Musk buying Twitter. We

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Speaker 1: think Twitter is a sesspole. We also think it's a

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Speaker 1: house of cards. There's just not very many people there,

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Speaker 1: and I know that's kind of flies in the face

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Speaker 1: of what people see and read. But I would just

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Speaker 1: ask anyone to just go to their you know, go

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Speaker 1: to any family function where there's somebody who's not a

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Speaker 1: Hollywood celebrity, not in politics, and not in journalism, and

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Speaker 1: ask their family members do you have a Twitter account

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Speaker 1: as active? And my guess is is it's going to

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Speaker 1: be somewhere around one to three percent of your family

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Speaker 1: members are going Twitter account. So we don't care about Twitter.

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Speaker 1: It's a global pr wire. That's not the business model

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Speaker 1: we're building. We have a place that is that is open, uncancellable.

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Speaker 1: We've built it without big tech and we are bringing

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Speaker 1: we've opened the ability to open the Internet back up

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Speaker 1: for people to social network. So I understand what you

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Speaker 1: I mean, Twitter is not even relevant for our company.

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Speaker 1: But I think what is relevant for our company is Instagram.

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Speaker 1: There is no question Instagram is a powerhouse along with TikTok.

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Speaker 1: TikTok has more of probably the ages of twenty five

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Speaker 1: guys are very familiar with. So we are building our

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Speaker 1: product to be take the best of Twitter, Instagram, TikTok,

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Speaker 1: are not going to be censored. For Oh, Devin, we're

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Speaker 1: talking technology, and technology is failing us right now because

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Speaker 1: we can't we can't really hear you. Let's see if

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Speaker 1: we can try try one more time. Here you were

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Speaker 1: you were telling us about what you're what your competitors

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Speaker 1: are doing, and what the market, what the landscape is

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Speaker 1: like right now for people to be able to share

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Speaker 1: their ideas. Go ahead, Oh I don't. I think I

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Speaker 1: think we might have lost Devin, which is not not

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Speaker 1: what we were hoping for at this point in time.

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Speaker 1: But obviously we'll see if we can get it back

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Speaker 1: in a moment here. Look, I think that the truth

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Speaker 1: social the truth social platform, Clay, if anything, can just

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Speaker 1: learn from what you know what went wrong with Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it's you know, Trump and the people involved in it.

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Speaker 1: Our pro free speech, and there's going to be a

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Speaker 1: lot of conservatives who are on the platform. But one

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Speaker 1: you know the oh do we have Devin again? Sorry

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Speaker 1: about that guy. Yeah, we gotta get you on like

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Speaker 1: a WiFi call, my friend, you got a few million

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Speaker 1: people listening to you, So go ahead. I actually think

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Speaker 1: I am on a WiFi call. That's what's so concerning. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a Soros conspiracy. Tell us what you were saying. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the bottom line is is that you know,

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Speaker 1: something that we spend much time worrying about because it's

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a home of bot farms,

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Speaker 1: and I think Elon Musk has said that pretty clearly. Uh, Congressman. You,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Buck and I are both on truth Social.

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Speaker 1: So if people are listening right now and they want

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Speaker 1: What opportunity is out there? In your mind? You talked

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Speaker 1: Twitter and creating a new dynamic there. How underserved do

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Speaker 1: never going back to Twitter. I mean there's because there's

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Speaker 1: If if Elon Musk buys it, that's great, that's phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we have already established with millions of

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Speaker 1: They're not going to be canceled by big tech. You know.

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Speaker 1: Our challenge moving forward is going to be able to,

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Speaker 1: Truth Social. So what is the fundament pardon me, Devin,

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Speaker 1: Not to mention, we're not trying to we're not trying

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Speaker 1: soon recession. Clay I think everyone sees it coming, no doubt,

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Speaker 1: and everyone out there who looks at their four oh

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Speaker 1: at what the stock market has done basically since Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden came into office. I mean, just think about where

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Speaker 1: stock market is effectively now flat, meaning we have seen

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Speaker 1: no growth in the overall net worth of people's retirement

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Speaker 1: accounts in terms of the last eighteen months. And then

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Speaker 1: if you take into account this eight plus percent inflation,

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Speaker 1: everybody has lost money. Everybody, No matter what you do

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Speaker 1: buying large, you are sitting on less money in the

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Speaker 1: stock market, less money in your paycheck, less money because

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Speaker 1: Biden's economic policies have all failed. And the scary thing

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Speaker 1: is buck if his all of his economic policies had

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Speaker 1: actually been implemented, things will be worse. Because we we

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Speaker 1: had a great guest, Charles Gasparino pointing out what many

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Speaker 1: CEOs are now saying what a Elon Musk said. I

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Speaker 1: know he's not the CEO of Amazon anymore, but that

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Speaker 1: build back better had passed, then we would have ended

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Speaker 1: up with double digit inflation. That's what Jeff Bezos is saying,

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Speaker 1: That's what Charles Gasparino is saying. Many other high level

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Speaker 1: business executives are saying what Elon Musk is saying. This

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Speaker 1: is a failure. It's awful, and it would have been

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Speaker 1: even worse if Joe Biden had gotten to do what

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Speaker 1: he truly wanted to do. And I do think it's

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Speaker 1: worth pointing out for a moment here, Clay that Wow,

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Speaker 1: this is all just like the bad economic numbers. Every

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Speaker 1: month in recent months has been a surprise. Ye who

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Speaker 1: could have seated? Always a surprise on the worst side.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you mean Biden's not good at this?

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Speaker 1: You mean this administration stings? What a shock. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: folks as a reminder of the audio of him saying

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Speaker 1: been there. Just so, California had six dollars gallon gas recently,

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Speaker 1: and we're heading in that direction. But if you look

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Speaker 1: at the stock market right now, here's a Trump predict

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Speaker 1: from back during the debates. They said, stock market if

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Speaker 1: You know he said gas. Trump said, in twenty to twenty,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure he would. Gas prices will be high,

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Speaker 1: And you wonder, why is it that he was able

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Speaker 1: than I think. If we had Trump on today. We

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Speaker 1: he would say, agree with us. He knew it was

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Speaker 1: gonna be bad. It's even worse than he thought. Because

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Speaker 1: going back to that baby's formula shortage, I just I

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Speaker 1: can't in terms of crystallizing economic policy failures, parent with

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Speaker 1: I mean, Buck, When we opened up phone lines about this,

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Speaker 1: we had people grandparents are out trying to buy baby

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Speaker 1: If I had told you, hey, Joe, Biden's going to

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Speaker 1: help feed their own children and grandchildren. I don't think

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Speaker 1: anybody would have ever even believed that was possible. Yet

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Speaker 1: what could come next, Buck, that I would be like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: there's no way possible that could happen. Nobody saw baby

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Speaker 1: lot of news today. You went to your first ever

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Speaker 1: SEC football game. I took you to old Miss Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Alabama's head football coach Nick saban So Jimbo Fisher. We

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Speaker 1: got a monster audience all over the state of Texas.

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Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher is the head coach of Texas A and

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Speaker 1: m Aggie's. They are feuding and this is an all

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Speaker 1: timer attack from one coach on another. You haven't heard this,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just curious if you can pick up on

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Speaker 1: the animosity and what you think about this almost unheard of.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to Jimbo Fisher. This was a couple of

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Speaker 1: hours ago, right before we came on the air. I

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Speaker 1: was watching it. My jaw dropped. Listen to this. It's

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Speaker 1: despicable that a repertable head coach could come out and

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Speaker 1: Go talk to coaches who coached for him. You'll find

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Speaker 1: out all the parody. Go dig into wherever he's been.

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Speaker 1: You can find out anything. Some people think they're God.

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Speaker 1: Go dig into how God did his deal. You may

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Speaker 1: find out about a guy did a lot of things

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Speaker 1: you don't want to know. We built him up to

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Speaker 1: be the Tzar of football. Go dig into his past

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Speaker 1: or anybody's ever coached with him. You can find out

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Speaker 1: anything you want. To find out what he does and

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Speaker 1: how he does it. And it's despicable. It's a second

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Speaker 1: time we've had to do this with grown men who

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Speaker 1: don't get their way and want to pout, throw a

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Speaker 1: fit and act up. Just go ask all the people

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Speaker 1: who work for him and know exactly what he's about.

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Speaker 1: I always said this, My dad always told me this.

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Speaker 1: When people show you who they are, believe him. He's

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Speaker 1: showing you who he is. Shots fired. I mean, even

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Speaker 1: on a regular basis or just college football. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, thanks to speaking of college football, Columbus, Ohio

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Speaker 1: We appreciate the fact that we have now gone number

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Speaker 1: and everybody listening right now. And that ties in because

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Speaker 1: this is He also said, by the way, Buck that

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Speaker 1: somebody needed to smack Nick Saban. This is I mean

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Speaker 1: pretty I know the Trump versus Biden first debate was

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Speaker 1: was pretty intense, but for sports, that's as wild of

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Speaker 1: of a press conference as I've seen in a long time.

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Speaker 1: In terms of personal animosity, a lot of people have

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Speaker 1: private animosity, but usually it doesn't go public like that.

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Speaker 1: I do remember from our time in Tuscaloosa that mister

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Speaker 1: Sabin was spoken of with a particular reverence, and that

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Speaker 1: when he actually showed up at the game, it did

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Speaker 1: feel like Julius Caesar had just arrived or something. You know,

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Speaker 1: there was definitely a parting of the sea for Saban

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Speaker 1: that occurred. So I can imagine that mister Jimbo is Jimbo. Right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jimbo roughling some feathers over in Alabama. By the way,

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Speaker 1: do what is almost improbable and impossible. We have united Columbus,

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Speaker 1: Ohio and Birmingham, Alabama in mutual mutual audience appreciation and

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Speaker 1: enjoyment for the Clay and Buck show. That's like, that's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, managing to bring together the Palestinians and the Israelis. Buck. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's take some calls. Let's do it. We got a

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Speaker 1: guy goes by a mountain man in Norman, Oklahoma. Mister

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Speaker 1: speakers of college towns, mister man of the mountain, How

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Speaker 1: are you, sir? Sooner? I'm sooner country, Yeah, Boober, sooner.

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Speaker 1: I know that. Now, I'll tell you this a reason

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Speaker 1: I called. I told your screener all this who bla

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Speaker 1: are going around about the baby formula? Yeah, okay. I

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Speaker 1: pulled up a recipe from Bober from the fifties in

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Speaker 1: the sixties for making your own baby formula. Yeah. Look,

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Speaker 1: and by the way, I'm glad you called in with

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Speaker 1: this because there are a lot of people not necessarily

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Speaker 1: thinking of the fact that in the worst case scenarios.

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Speaker 1: You can make baby formula at home, and they've been

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Speaker 1: sharing some of these formulas. I think he got in

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Speaker 1: trouble for doing just that. Isn't that right, Mountain Man?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, you've got that right where. You know everybody's

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Speaker 1: so used to the corporations will peruse everything. This thing

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Speaker 1: is real simple. Uh. It is a can of evaporated

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Speaker 1: evaporated milk pet evaporated milk Facebook flag This is false information,

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Speaker 1: by the way. Twenty ounces of water, two level taste tea,

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Speaker 1: tablespoons of k row, pour four ounces into each of

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Speaker 1: six models, and then it's a feed over three to

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Speaker 1: four hours. Well, I don't even have I don't even have,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like I should go make some formula

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Speaker 1: right now because Mountain Man's he means business. Mountain Man,

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Speaker 1: this is an incredible call. I love his accent. I

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Speaker 1: love that he's in Norman, Oklahoma, the hometown of the

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma Sooners, and he's all in. Would you have ever

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Speaker 1: believed livery driver? And I'm on my way to out

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Speaker 1: the Oklahoma I run out of Oklahoma City a truck

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Speaker 1: ground of a box. But all right, my man, would

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Speaker 1: you have ever believed Mountain man, that things would get

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Speaker 1: so bad at Joe Biden's America that you'd be calling

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Speaker 1: the biggest radio show in America to tell people how

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Speaker 1: to make their own baby formula because they couldn't buy it.

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Speaker 1: I am a I'm a regular on our local kt okay,

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Speaker 1: which is who I'm listening through you through right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'll also pick you up through uh out of

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Speaker 1: a witch Stall Falls station too, twelve mony. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: everybody listening right now in both of those stations. But Buck,

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Speaker 1: to me, this is just such a great moment, a

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Speaker 1: crystallization of where we are as a country. Our buddy

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Speaker 1: the Mountain Man just called in to tell millions of

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Speaker 1: people how they could make their own baby formula because

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Speaker 1: they might not be able to find it to feed

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Speaker 1: their babies because Joe Biden's entire administration is so incompetent.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about how crazy that is. Remember we

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Speaker 1: had victory gardens because of shortages during the World War Two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we apparently now have baby formula gardens without the World

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Speaker 1: War two going on. It's crazy you think about it.

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Speaker 1: But Claire, you see the disinformation Board is not only over,

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Speaker 1: but now they're trying to on the way out the

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Speaker 1: door explain how it was disinformation that did in the

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Speaker 1: disinformation board. This is from the New York Times today

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Speaker 1: the end yesterday the Washington Post was pedaling those lies.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy. We've got an announcement for you,

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Speaker 1: by the way, at the top of the next hour

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Speaker 1: that I think several of you are going to find

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Speaker 1: to be intriguing. A little bit of changes, I hope,

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Speaker 1: moving in a good way for the show. We'll tell

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