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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we say see you next

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Speaker 1: Tuesday on the beach. I'm Greg Rostal. I'm in the

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Speaker 1: Chris Wesleyan podcast studio. I'm with Patrick Claybon and Colleen Wolf.

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Speaker 1: But look, it's a full house today, Craig.

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Speaker 2: I'm usually not sitting this close to you.

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Speaker 3: It is weird. Why are you city there?

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Speaker 4: Don't know?

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Speaker 3: Patrick took your seat. We didn't talk about Cia signed.

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Speaker 5: We didn't talking about it.

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Speaker 1: We don't have time to talk about it because we

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Speaker 1: have a correspondent from the NFL Annual League meetings.

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Speaker 3: Do you hear her laughing?

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Speaker 1: And if you uh check us out on YouTube you

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Speaker 1: will see her with the beautiful Breakers Resort water behind her.

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Speaker 1: The colors are popping. Thank you Jordan for joining. It's

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Speaker 1: just a little vibe check to start the show. How's

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Speaker 1: it going down there?

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Speaker 6: Clearly everything is so terrible. What No, it's fantastic. It's

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Speaker 6: been good vibes. You know, some animated discussion about the

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Speaker 6: tush push and not much else. That's really been the

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Speaker 6: main topic of discussion. Tabled it for now. I know

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Speaker 6: you guys will get to it and what I assume

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Speaker 6: will be a fantastic show. But yeah, it's been really

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Speaker 6: really interesting here. You know, lots of side sessions, reporters, coaches, executives,

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Speaker 6: you know, it's all happening.

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Speaker 5: Here in Jordan. Are there any particular sides of this

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Speaker 5: heated discussion on the on the Brotherly show for it?

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Speaker 6: Okay, So what I like, and I'm assigning my own

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Speaker 6: like storytelling to this obviously, but what I really like

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Speaker 6: the dynamic that's emerged here is the two sort of

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Speaker 6: dominating coaching trees, So the Sirianni Coaching Tree with Shane

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Speaker 6: Steichen et cetera, et cetera, and the Shanahan McVeigh Coaching

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Speaker 6: Tree with them backing their boy Matt Lafleur on this.

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Speaker 6: Because the Packers sort of like took the lead and

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Speaker 6: the charge. I feel like someone drew the short straw

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Speaker 6: and taking the lead on this, but taking the lead

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Speaker 6: in these discussions, and like you'll notice in a lot

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Speaker 6: of these quotes that you're seeing from these sessions that

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Speaker 6: it's all the Sirianni people like advocating for the Toush

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Speaker 6: up that. And I think you guys know where I

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Speaker 6: stand on this. And then on the other side of things,

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Speaker 6: it's Lafleur and McVeigh who's on the Competition committee, and

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Speaker 6: Raheem Morris and they're all talking about how they are

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Speaker 6: against it. So it's a little tree battle here in

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Speaker 6: the land of palm trees.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of giving rival fraternities. Oh yeah, like that's

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Speaker 4: that's kind of how I'm picturing the league meetings start.

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Speaker 1: Are they not hanging out as much now because and

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Speaker 1: a lot of pastel Colleen, a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, they're resort where they break it out the

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Speaker 4: time of year.

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Speaker 3: It's Tuesday, and we will get two.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the Toush push band being tabled for now, and

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Speaker 1: there are some details we'll get into. But while we

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Speaker 1: have you, Jordan, I know the league meeting party is

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Speaker 1: on Monday night.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, Oh shoot, I.

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Speaker 1: Have an insider that told me Serena Williams was there randomly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, how is that? Yes, you know, I'm I'm.

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Speaker 1: Sure a lot of dorky sports writers just told her

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Speaker 2: We saw it on Twitter though, right, didn't we see pictures.

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Speaker 1: Of some well I saw her at like a summit,

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Speaker 1: you know, she had they had Caitlin Clark there they

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Speaker 1: were talking about the future of women. But she hung

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Speaker 1: around for the party, which which is great. Were what

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Speaker 3: Give us a little vibes?

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Speaker 1: And uh, does that also mean maybe the coaching trees,

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Speaker 1: like they're not talking to each other even even.

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Speaker 2: Careful what you say about the parties?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Nice try Greg. First of all, yeah, nice try.

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Speaker 3: No, it was cool.

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Speaker 6: So I don't fan girl much because you know, we

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Speaker 5: Different, It's okay, you can say.

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Speaker 6: Different. That's why I advocate for the tush push, by

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Speaker 6: the way. So but I also I when I saw

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Speaker 6: like she is incredible. It was really cool what her

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Speaker 6: Kaylyn Clark, We're here to do to really talk about

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Speaker 6: investing in like football, and women's sports in the future

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Speaker 6: I talked to a lot of executives and coaches, partners

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Speaker 2: That's what I've heard.

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Speaker 6: Dynamic. He's dynamic. You know, don't ask him about flavortown.

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Speaker 6: I source says it. You know, it gets a little

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Speaker 2: He's present for a reason.

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Speaker 1: I saw him in the passenger seat of his Chevy

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Speaker 3: Say hide the guy. Very he really is the best.

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Speaker 1: I was having an argument with Emica this week and

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Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson, It's Carrie Underwood, it's Guy Fieri. I don't

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Speaker 5: Guy unless you want to take the star search route

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Speaker 5: and include like ushers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's a previous generation, but that's fair.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the mayor of Flavortone.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Jordan. Meanwhile, she's holding up her phone. How tired

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Speaker 1: is your your arm?

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Speaker 3: Right now?

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Speaker 6: Did you guys need me anymore?

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Speaker 4: I mean, Jordan, just to your point about Serena, I

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I have to tell you so, like sports

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Speaker 6: I might be off on that factually, but something was

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Speaker 2: Of all the cheeses, I know, I'm Jean Wheel. I've

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Speaker 3: Next time, Jordan.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate the important groundbreaking reporting you have done in

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Speaker 1: the beautiful backdrop.

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Speaker 3: It's worth it. You don't have to work out your

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Speaker 6: Thanks guys, have a fun see next Tuesday. Love you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'll respect to Serena Williams for that that

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Speaker 1: Sabalanca IgA my girl?

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Roger Goodell representing the NFL Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: hat at the Jesse Pula Arena Sablanca Miami Final.

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Speaker 4: Did you see her steal Sablanca's Margarita the postgame show clip.

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Speaker 5: Would you see right now? Where would you see Serena.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying respect, respect this show. If we

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Speaker 1: We're going through some rule changes, and we're also going

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Speaker 1: If you listened last week in outstanding appearance by Joe

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Speaker 5: Look, it's a football player, Like unless we're banning all

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Speaker 1: We don't call the play, we don't teach to play

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: He said that the Eagles work so hard to master

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Speaker 3: That's fair.

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Speaker 1: And I appreciated how really coaching Nick Sirianni was at

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Speaker 2: You know what, good for him won the Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: this year. You do your thing.

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Speaker 1: It could be a bad still, you know, it could

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Speaker 1: be I'm being totally unfair. It's also a bad draw

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Speaker 1: They're here the breakers that they're hard working guys, they

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Speaker 5: The party is probably after the party, right, nobody's really.

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Speaker 3: Turning on exactly.

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Speaker 2: There's multiple parties within the party.

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Speaker 3: You're right.

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Speaker 5: I've never been a party to either one.

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Speaker 1: You're right, But sometimes some people don't pay themselves. They

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Speaker 1: But you're right. The more it's not usually the coaches,

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Speaker 1: that's fair. The more embarrassing performances are after the party.

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Speaker 2: It just seems like a bad idea, like hydrate everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's still ultimately a work function. It's still kind of

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Speaker 3: You just want to be careful about.

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Speaker 1: The Lion's proposal about playoff seating was tabled, but I

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Speaker 1: Their proposal was about the NFC North. For instance, last year,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you like that.

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Speaker 2: I love that rule. I think that's how the rule

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's really fair if you are in

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Speaker 5: Yeah. And Sean mcvay's point, like, hey, you're deemphasizing winning

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Speaker 1: Right in Seattle now, Seattle won the division when they

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Speaker 3: Saints team something like that. That's this year.

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Speaker 1: I guess the beast quake would it wouldn't have happened.

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Speaker 1: I'm almost making a case against it. But that game,

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Speaker 1: You still could have done the beast quake in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: We are gonna expand replay assists. That's something we talked

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Speaker 4: There's anyone that loves rules, it's me. I love rules,

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Speaker 4: I love following rules. I hate when people break rules.

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Speaker 1: You do a weekly segment famously on NFL Gate I

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Speaker 2: My guy, Walt Anderson and Mooch. It's really fun. I

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Speaker 4: And we have multiple calls with Walt Anderson throughout the

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Speaker 2: And I talked to Walt before this.

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Speaker 4: Show, Yes, and he was talking about the expanded replay

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Speaker 4: So now if there's a call that's egregiously wrong, they

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Speaker 2: But if a.

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Speaker 4: Ref or if a call is for a face mask

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Speaker 3: Roughing the pass, roughing the passic kicker.

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Speaker 2: And it's wrong, then that will be fixed.

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Speaker 5: I love, Yes, expand away. Let's continue to expand. And

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Speaker 5: I know there's folks out there that it's like, oh,

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Speaker 5: Patrick's arguing against rest having jobs. No, I just want

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Speaker 5: when you see executives and don't necessarily know what they do, like,

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Speaker 2: And all executives have assistance, and.

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Speaker 1: That's what this is like to be like the umpire

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Speaker 4: Of people jobs, but there are still a lot of

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Speaker 1: Yes, I don't think they're ever going to go back

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Speaker 4: Exactly because when it was at the thirty before, the

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Speaker 2: Now it will be a six yard difference. That's huge.

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Speaker 1: Kylie is so prepared for the rules part of the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I want you to cook. I want you to cook now.

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Speaker 1: No, It's like it's like, you know, for my Celtics

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Speaker 4: This will incentified teams to force kickoffs.

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Speaker 3: I am excited about that. Was that was a really

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Speaker 1: I also notice they changed the overtime rules and now

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Speaker 1: But both teams get the ball now in regular season overtime.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm fine with this, but I think there could

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Speaker 3: If that in I like double, you know, I don't

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Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, I don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: Just because now both teams get it and you're going

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Speaker 1: But they're not consistent. This is not consistent the regulation

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Speaker 1: They probably would have tried to take as much time

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Speaker 1: off it as possible. Then the Chiefs get the ball.

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Speaker 1: They would have only had if it was a regular

444
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Speaker 1: season game, a couple minutes to go drive down the field.

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Speaker 1: They probably would have been having to play faster and

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Speaker 1: probably would have had a field goal attempt.

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Speaker 3: But although you really never know, the whole world would

448
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Speaker 3: be different.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying if that was a regular season game, if

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Speaker 1: it's a postseason game, then you can just play play

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Speaker 1: it forever.

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, also, a tie. It sucks when you're watching

453
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Speaker 4: the game. It sucks if you're playing the game. But

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Speaker 4: at the end of the year, when all of the

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Speaker 4: seating and the records mean something extra, those ties are

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Speaker 4: good for teams.

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Speaker 3: I don't hate the tie as much as other people.

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Speaker 6: Know.

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Speaker 5: There's this group of people who do this performative Oh

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Speaker 5: I hate ties. It's like it's bad, it's just the worst.

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Speaker 2: Thing, Like, oh, I hate a tie in real time.

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Speaker 5: But I would prefer to have a winner to the game.

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Speaker 5: But when we're like grinding people in the pulp, you know,

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Speaker 5: thirty minutes after the game, it's like, okay.

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Speaker 1: Plus it brings about the worst cliche in sports, which

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Speaker 1: is that it's like kissing your sister.

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Speaker 4: I don't just why why that should be banned? Not

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Speaker 4: the touch push?

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Speaker 5: Who brought Who made that original?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Because I mean there's a whole lot of people who

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Speaker 5: are just you know, they can't have an original thought,

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Speaker 5: and they just repeat things that they heard. Yeah, but

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Speaker 5: who's the first person to say that? Because I have

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Speaker 5: some questions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's like kissing your sister on the cheek.

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Speaker 3: Is that okay?

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Speaker 5: That's fine? No, they the implication is not cheek.

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Speaker 3: That's not good.

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Speaker 2: I don't like any of it.

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Speaker 1: Our research department, led by Eric Roberts and Chris Bobona,

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Speaker 1: say that we've had five ties since twenty nineteen. Okay,

483
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Speaker 1: so that's in six seasons. So my one per year

484
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Speaker 1: was about right.

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Speaker 2: How many did we have last year?

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Speaker 3: None? We actually haven't had any since twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's just random, you know, there was there

488
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Speaker 1: was two and twenty two, and then one in nineteen

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Speaker 1: twenty and twenty one.

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Speaker 3: So we've had a little while.

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Speaker 1: The last tie was Commander's Giants back in twenty two two.

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Speaker 2: It's East of Them.

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Speaker 5: Edgar rip Miller in nineteen forty six is credited with

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Speaker 5: the Kissingers.

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Speaker 1: I love I love how absolutely random this show is.

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Speaker 1: Let's us wrap the rules part of it, and then

497
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Speaker 1: we're going to take a little break. The NFL shortened

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Speaker 1: the time necessary to flex a TNF game. It used

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Speaker 1: to be four weeks, now it's three weeks. Not really

500
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Speaker 1: that important. The lion idea to eliminate automatic first downs

501
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Speaker 1: for holding calls doesn't pass. Dan Campbell wasn't totally giving up,

502
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Speaker 1: said it had a little support in the room, but

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Speaker 1: that did not happen. Teams can now wear throwbacks four

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Speaker 1: times a year.

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Speaker 3: I love it. Three.

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Speaker 5: I like that throwbacks if you wear them eight times

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Speaker 5: in two years, though, just just make that the uniform.

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Speaker 1: And then this isn't This isn't a rule, but I

509
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Speaker 1: just thought I would put it here at the beginning

510
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Speaker 1: of the show because it affects us the most.

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Speaker 3: We're playing a triple header on Christmas. Now, have you

512
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Speaker 3: heard about this? Two?

513
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Speaker 1: Netflix games and one Amazon Prime game. Now it's I

514
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Speaker 1: don't know if it's going to be annually, but this

515
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Speaker 1: is a Thursday, it's traditionally a football day.

516
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Speaker 3: They're loading up. We've gone from one to two to three.

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Speaker 2: I hope there's four next year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh wow, maybe it's the late November birthday. But

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Speaker 5: I've always loved Thanksgiving and so making everything Thanksgiving is better,

520
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Speaker 5: and so now we get it on Christmas without like

521
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Speaker 5: the genocide denial, and so that's cool.

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Speaker 2: Do you usually work it?

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Speaker 5: No? Not Thanksgiving all co work.

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Speaker 3: Two different perspectives here. Thanksgiving, though, you get stuck working.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, league guy, everything thinks.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, more football, more football.

527
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Speaker 4: We don't need.

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Speaker 2: Holidays with our families.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, we want to spend holidays here right here,

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Speaker 4: or at the game.

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Speaker 5: Facts.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm always in support of more football in generously,

533
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Speaker 1: I famously was the originator of the idea that we

534
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Speaker 1: should just play two games a day for the entire Nflcon.

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Speaker 1: They made up a whole mox schedule and actually he

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Speaker 1: there's no days off. That was before I had my

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Speaker 1: second child, and I've now come a lot around, So

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Speaker 1: that's a bad idea.

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Speaker 4: Greg you really did this and you really thought about it. Yes,

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Speaker 4: and really picture was over and this this was.

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Speaker 1: Over a decade ago. I thought two games a day.

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Speaker 1: We just spread it out. Yeah, everyone's excited for every game.

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Speaker 2: Then every day is football. Now every day is a Sunday.

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Speaker 1: So look forward to Christmas. Yeah, I just it's a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot to make that such an NFL day.

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Speaker 1: I have mixed feelings. I do have mixed feelings.

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Speaker 4: I kind of I like a if we're gonna have

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Speaker 4: a Christmas slate, I feel like one game is.

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Speaker 1: Good, I'm kind of with you there, and yet more

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Speaker 1: football we'll be covering it here.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah on NFL Day.

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Speaker 1: I have a little bit of mixed feelings on Christmas

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Speaker 1: in general, because my family leaves me for it, and

554
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Speaker 1: so I have to pretend that Christmas they leave you

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Speaker 1: every year is the weekend before. Yes, And then everyone

556
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Speaker 1: hears that, and then they get bummed out by it,

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Speaker 1: and then they.

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Speaker 3: Start like, oh, you should come over to do this.

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Speaker 1: I think, no, no, it's fine, And so I actually

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Speaker 1: thought like it was kind of like a nice free day.

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Speaker 2: I have been on that side where I'm like come over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and it's fine, I'm just it's but now

563
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Speaker 1: that there's football, it's like, okay, you can't even just

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Speaker 1: chill and go to like a movie with like a

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Speaker 1: movie or just whatever. You got to kind of watch them.

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Speaker 4: As long as they don't touch Christmas Eve, I'm good

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Speaker 4: they do.

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Speaker 3: They do.

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Speaker 1: We had a Christmas A Network game a few years ago,

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Speaker 1: hopefully three games on Christmas. Looking forward to Eric, I

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Speaker 1: hope you're ready Christmas night. We're doing the show.

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Speaker 2: He stays ready, so he doesn't get ready right now.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a quick break. We're going to come back.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about all the NFC coaches they

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Speaker 1: talked at the Coach's Breakfast, one of the more random

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Speaker 1: annual traditions. And yes, we're going back into that escape

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Speaker 1: room with the Giant.

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Speaker 3: Yes we are.

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Speaker 4: Previously on NFL First Dates, Jamis Winston and the Giants

580
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Speaker 4: are in the heart of the Lower east Side at

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Speaker 4: NFC East Escape, the kind of place you find on

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Speaker 4: a damp, gloomy night, next to an abandoned warehouse covered

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Speaker 4: in graffiti. Inside the escape room, an unforgettable night is unfolding. Jamis,

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Speaker 4: ever the showman, leads a captive audience through the Dallas Chamber.

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Speaker 4: Here distractions abound, limits are tested, and the photosensitive will

586
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Speaker 4: not survive. It's a first date with grave consequences. Flashing lights,

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Speaker 4: pom poms, and ear splitting country music fills the space

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Speaker 4: as the group desperately tries to solve star shaped puzzles.

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Speaker 4: In the far corner of chaos, Little Jordan Humphrey unlocks

590
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Speaker 4: a hidden compartment. Click, the room goes silent. Chauncey Golston gasps.

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00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 4: A holographic projection of Jerry Jones splashes the wall. His

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Speaker 4: message will change the course of this evening. Beads of

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Speaker 4: sweat begin to form on Tommy DeVito's face. The long

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Speaker 4: hots at dinner where a bad idea Jamis grabs Tommy

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Speaker 4: by the shoulders and tells him to stay focused. Suddenly

596
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Speaker 4: the room feels smaller. It's getting warmer and more difficult

597
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Speaker 4: de breathe. As time ticks on, Jerry speaks in cryptic code,

598
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Speaker 4: saying things like we're all in stats are for losers,

599
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Speaker 4: and I tried to get us what I thought was

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Speaker 4: the equivalent of a romo with Quincy Carter. In the

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Speaker 4: third round, he ends the odd rant with four words,

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Speaker 4: The future is calling A phone rings next to Brian Daball.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't answer because he doesn't yet know who's calling

604
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Speaker 4: the plays next season, Jamis springs into action to.

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Speaker 2: Take the call.

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Speaker 4: He's in full control right now until he hears the

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Speaker 4: voice on the other end. The glint in his eye

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Speaker 4: immediately disappears. The call is coming from inside the house.

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Speaker 4: An unexpected addition to the room, A hidden door swings

610
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Speaker 4: open to reveal the sly grin on Russell Wilson's face.

611
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Speaker 4: Heard you guys were doing some divisional bondage, I mean bonding,

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Speaker 4: his voice echoing through the room. Mind if I joined

613
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Speaker 4: the party, Party, Party, Just a little friendly competition to

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Speaker 4: be continued.

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Speaker 5: Brilliant.

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Speaker 4: Time ticks on, keeps on ticking. Will they get out

617
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Speaker 4: of the escape room? I don't know if they're going

618
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Speaker 4: to get out of the NFC just.

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Speaker 3: I don't know either. I don't know if Davill ever

620
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Speaker 3: gets out.

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Speaker 5: It sounds like they had firm leadership.

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Speaker 2: But now stability is completely right too.

623
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Speaker 5: Many cooks.

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Speaker 1: Also just excellent writing in so many different ways, but

625
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Speaker 1: also picking the three funniest names you could from the

626
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Speaker 1: Giants Chauncey Golston, Little Jordan Humphrey and Tommy DeVito. So

627
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Speaker 1: it's just that's great little huh. It's the small touches.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chauncey Golston came from Dallas.

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Speaker 3: That makes sense too.

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Speaker 1: But just words, Wow, we're gonna have to make me

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Speaker 1: a weekly segment of calling visits go to the Eagles section. Oh,

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Speaker 1: speaking of which, what a transition. Let's talk about Nick Sirianni.

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Speaker 1: So we talked toush Push earlier. But just in terms

634
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Speaker 1: of the team, there were a couple of little nuggets

635
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Speaker 1: and you know, I'm diving deep.

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00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: So most of these we can be quick on.

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Speaker 1: But just some of the nugs that came out from

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Speaker 1: the coach's breakfast on Tuesday morning. And yes, it's very

639
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Speaker 1: early when they start this. He was asked about Dallas

640
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: Godter and he said, right now he's on our team.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens and how that happens, and that

642
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: door is not just back open. That answer makes me

643
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Speaker 1: think Dallas Goddard's not going to be on the Eagles

644
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: unless they're playing some sort of hardball publicly. They don't

645
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Speaker 1: get the benefit of him not being on the Eagles

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Speaker 1: financially until after June first, So maybe that's part of it,

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Speaker 1: or maybe they're trying to work out a trade. But

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Speaker 1: very interesting.

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00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 4: Is how he trying to get like an extra draft

650
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Speaker 4: pick here, maybe a fourth rounder or something.

651
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Speaker 5: Yeah, just a few more shots at the barrel. But

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Speaker 5: I wonder you get diminishing returns at some point because

653
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Speaker 5: Dallas Goddard's skill set isn't just readily available. Yeah, there,

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Speaker 5: and there's no answer that's currently on the team.

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Speaker 4: Right And I had such a good streak of tight

656
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Speaker 4: ends in Philadelphia, zach Ertz before that, even Brent Selleck.

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Speaker 1: And he can still play, but he has struggled to

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Speaker 1: stay on the field. So I think that's that's where

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00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: it's at. And then making decisions. And Howie Roseman was

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Speaker 1: asked about it too, and he just said, there's no update.

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Speaker 1: You know, how he's been a tremendous player, and they

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Speaker 1: signed guys Harrison Bryant, Kylie grantson. But now I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of combining how he comments. And he had another quote

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about, but I think it should

665
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Speaker 1: be married with this Goddard deal. He says, quote, we

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Speaker 1: are incomplete right now. Talent Act quisition season has just started.

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Speaker 4: Oh season SZN I mean, and it was pointed.

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Speaker 3: Out on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I believe this was from Zach Berman as well, getting

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Speaker 1: a lot of pop on this show that at this

671
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Speaker 1: time three years ago when they were last at the Breakers,

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Speaker 1: how he said something similar. And after that part of

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Speaker 1: the off season, they.

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Speaker 3: Traded for a j.

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Speaker 1: Brown, they traded for Chauncey Gardner Johnson, and there was

676
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Speaker 1: another big off season move that I'm forgetting about off

677
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Speaker 1: the top of my head, but the point being they

678
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Speaker 1: brought in Oh it was James Bradbury bringing him as

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Speaker 1: a free agent who ended up playing a big role

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Speaker 1: for them. And that makes me think, Okay, I've been

681
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Speaker 1: talking about the Eagles have been weirdly quiet this offseason,

682
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Speaker 1: just picking around the margins. I thought they might push

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Speaker 1: to the middle of like let's really go for it.

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Speaker 1: And now I'm kind of circling draft weekend. I'm thinking

685
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Speaker 1: about Dallas Gotter. He could be part of this as

686
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Speaker 1: part of some trades that they still have some significant

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Speaker 1: moves to make.

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Speaker 3: He's basically saying it, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, he's there. It's no secret though.

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Speaker 4: Also everyone expects the Eagles and Howie Roseman to make

691
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Speaker 4: a splash and make moves before the draft. That's what happens,

692
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Speaker 4: That's what they do. But it is a strange strategy.

693
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Speaker 5: There's two tight ends with a first round grade that

694
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Speaker 5: might be available at thirty two, where that could ultimately

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Speaker 5: determine how they go and maybe them maybe the draft

696
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Speaker 5: is what explains the right now and.

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Speaker 1: There's a couple good those second round tight ends two

698
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Speaker 1: or Mason Taylor might be a guy they look at

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Speaker 1: as a guy you would take in the first round,

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Speaker 1: or Elijah Arroyo.

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Speaker 2: I would assume that.

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Speaker 4: They will trade out of that spot so someone else

703
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Speaker 4: can hop in there and get the rights to like

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Speaker 4: a quarterback or something that they want to just take

705
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Speaker 4: a flag on. I feel like that always happens with

706
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Speaker 4: the last spot in the first round.

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Speaker 5: I would doom Jackson Dart. If somebody comes up and

708
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Speaker 5: makes a trade with Howie at thirty two right and Dart,

709
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Speaker 5: that would spell disaster.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Nick was just like a little sweaty, it's

711
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Speaker 1: early in the morning and stuff, But just that the

712
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Speaker 1: tone in the way he was answering this, I now

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Speaker 1: kind of expect Dallas got it would not be on

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Speaker 1: the ego side.

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Speaker 4: Now that you're now that you've put it into that

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Speaker 4: perspective and seeing his photo and seeing that he maybe

717
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Speaker 4: didn't look like he was at one hundred percent himself

718
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 4: now now that it has even more truth to him.

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Speaker 1: Art Rooney, the second UH, spoke to reporters on Tuesday

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Speaker 1: and was a little more revealing on the Aaron Rodgers front, saying,

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Speaker 1: we keep hearing that he's headed in our direction, and

722
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Speaker 1: so it seems to be that all signs are positive

723
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Speaker 1: so far dot dot dot, and that the Steelers will

724
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Speaker 1: quote wait a little while longer, but not forever, that

725
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Speaker 1: they'll only have to wait a little while longer.

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Speaker 3: He's basically saying this thing happening.

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Speaker 1: This is almost like the boss revealing more than the

728
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Speaker 1: guys underneath of Mike Tomlin or their GM wanted to.

729
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Speaker 1: But he's basically assuming Aaron Rodgers is going to be

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Speaker 1: on the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: I feel like he's just looking at his phone waiting

732
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Speaker 4: for the text to come through, Like this is like

733
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Speaker 4: someone who is just sort of checking their phone every

734
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Speaker 4: five minutes to see if this person texted them.

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Speaker 2: Yet No, still not there. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: It's giving that it feels like everybody has been very

737
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Speaker 5: careful on every step of the process, and this feels

738
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Speaker 5: like the dangerous move where everybody is on tiptoes and

739
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Speaker 5: you have to abide by the rules of this person

740
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Speaker 5: who could do anything. You don't know what This person's

741
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 5: a wild card. You don't know how they're going to

742
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Speaker 5: make the decision or what's going to play into it,

743
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Speaker 5: so you don't want to mess up. And when you're

744
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Speaker 5: the person who ultimately is making the decisions in art

745
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Speaker 5: roomy the second you can say things like this, I'm

746
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Speaker 5: just concerned that the habitual line stepper that's involved that

747
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 5: we're discussing, who people are afraid to criticize because they

748
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 5: don't know what he's gonna do. How's how's he going

749
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Speaker 5: to react to like, Oh, you're expecting it. Oh well,

750
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 5: nobody tells me what to do, right that that would

751
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Speaker 5: be market.

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Speaker 1: And if you're already dealing with that, like is this

753
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Speaker 1: really the relationship you want?

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Speaker 5: Set a date? He should set a date.

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Speaker 4: Oh, a deadline is great, because I'm wondering if at

756
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Speaker 4: this point Aaron Rodgers is just asking for concessions from

757
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Speaker 4: Arthur Smith or like, what what is happening?

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Speaker 1: Who knows? Uh, we'll put a pint on it. More

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00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: on this topic on Wednesday show. I'm actually going to

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Speaker 1: have Dave damashek on the program you are, and we

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Speaker 1: are going to just present the case of why the

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Speaker 1: stealers shouldn't do this.

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Speaker 3: What about Fruit of the Year, Well, I'll ask.

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Speaker 1: Him about how that's shaping up. So fu So thanks,

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Speaker 1: before it's too late. We had we had to move

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Speaker 1: this show up. Uh wait that your very first podcast.

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Speaker 3: For the NFL.

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Speaker 5: It was on It was on the DDFP. Okay, I

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Speaker 5: owe this headset to check.

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Speaker 4: Actually, when I auditioned for NFL Network, he was the

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Speaker 4: person that was sitting at the desk with me while

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Speaker 4: I auditioned.

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Speaker 2: So he was like the faux analyst.

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Speaker 1: And he was obviously instrumental in getting Yeah, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be here off the ground around the NFL podcast off

776
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Speaker 1: the ground too.

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Speaker 3: So he's the best. Everyone.

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Speaker 1: Check out his latest YouTube video by the way, for

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Speaker 1: Dan Levatard's show. It's it's outstanding. You'll find it there

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Speaker 1: on Chick's page. All right, let's go through this. Not

781
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: a lot of other huge headlines, but when we're talking Steelers,

782
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: it made me think of DK Metcalf and Dave Canalis

783
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: volunteered to kay Adams on her show that they were

784
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Speaker 1: in on on DK metcalf. There was some reporting about that,

785
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: but she asked him about like, hey, what about Tyreek

786
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Speaker 1: Hill and he was like, well, we were in on DK.

787
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: There were some interesting conversations there. He also then said, well,

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Speaker 1: but we've got Xavier Laguette. We think he could be

789
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: that guy. And when talking about the number eight overall pick,

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00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: he says, we have to address defense. They were dead

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00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: last in defense, so kind of tipping his hand there.

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Speaker 3: I do wonder.

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Speaker 1: Though, I think this tyreek Hill situation is bubbling as

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Speaker 1: a possibility, and I would put the page Anther's near

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Speaker 1: the top of the list of a team just crazy

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Speaker 1: enough to do it.

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Speaker 5: I don't know it would be crazy. It would be

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Speaker 5: who's willing to make the biggest financial investment in Tyreek

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Speaker 5: Hill at this point.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm not saying crazy or even desperate, but I

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Speaker 1: do think there's a risk rewards situation with Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 1: that wasn't there as much for the Dolphins in that

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Speaker 1: his age and the money, you know, and potential decline

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Speaker 1: with everything else, and by everything else, I just think

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Speaker 1: he takes management as a as a star receiver potentially

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Speaker 1: on the decline Tyre.

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Speaker 4: I just can't picture Tyreek Hill in Carolina with that

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Speaker 4: team and the way that they play, and his personality

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Speaker 4: in general.

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Speaker 3: I do think you would fill.

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Speaker 1: With Bryce Young though, like Bryce Tua, like a lot

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Speaker 1: of yards after the catch, like I could see that it.

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Speaker 2: Could go great, could also really blow up.

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Speaker 5: I kind of want I kind of want to see

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Speaker 5: Tyreek out out of that offense at this point. If

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Speaker 5: in Miami after twenty twenty five, I'm I'm willing to

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Speaker 5: be done with they with this edition of the Miami Dolphin.

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Speaker 1: Okay, everyone working there disagrees, but I know what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Raheem Morris was talking about kirk Cousins. He just was like,

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Speaker 1: we really want him to be our backup, but if

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Speaker 1: it's good for both of us, we would like to

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Speaker 1: see a trade happen. We're kind of expecting a trade

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Speaker 1: to happen by Draft day. I mean, on draft weekend.

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Speaker 1: Would you look forward to Colleen kirk Cousins Week one

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Speaker 1: starter Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's interesting because last year I'm thinking about how

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Speaker 4: night one of the draft, kirk Cousins was on the

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Speaker 4: mind of everyone when the Falcons drafted a quarterback in

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Speaker 4: the first round. And so if that happens again, that

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Speaker 4: would be really interesting for Kirk Cousins. It doesn't make

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Speaker 4: me all of a sudden think that the Browns are

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Speaker 4: going to be good.

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Speaker 2: If Kirk Cousins is there.

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Speaker 1: No, and I'm checking this schedule, they're not on the schedule.

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Speaker 1: I would like to see like a Falcons revenge all

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Speaker 1: the Falcons Browns. Yeah, that would be a good So

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Speaker 1: it would it be revengeful I don't pay me so

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Speaker 1: much money and not telling me, well, you're going to

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Speaker 1: draft Michael Pennox right, and then benching me when I

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Speaker 1: clearly couldn't move.

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Speaker 5: So, but if Draft Knight is the idea with the

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Speaker 5: Browns picking too, wouldn't it incentivize the Browns to do

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Speaker 5: this before Draft Knight?

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Speaker 1: Not if they have sort of a tacit agreement that

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Speaker 1: Kirk wants to get past the draft and make sure

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Speaker 1: that they don't take a quarterback, and and that's the

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Speaker 1: whole idea, and you trade.

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Speaker 3: Them on dra date maybe they're waiting, and yeah, you

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Speaker 3: trade them for some more fifth rout pick, And so

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Speaker 3: that's happens in D three.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it should be fine Todd Bowles I

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Speaker 1: thought was interesting, said they really needed to draft a cornerback.

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Speaker 1: Mike Rabel said that you got to see Will Campbell,

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Speaker 1: who's a potential number four overall pick, as a left tackle.

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Speaker 3: How can you not see him?

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Speaker 5: That's that's what you gotta do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it makes sense, but people are.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is a silly idea where it's like, oh, well,

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Speaker 5: if it's not worth just put him at guard tackle.

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur in them left tackle News says their first

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Speaker 1: round pick from a year ago will compete at left tackle,

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00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: and confirmed Elkton Jenkins is going to play at center.

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00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: They think he could be an all Pro center. He's

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Speaker 1: bounced around all over that offensive line. This one My

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Speaker 1: only interested interests me what is it? But in Judy Batista,

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Speaker 1: I think she's with me on this, this historical stuff

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Speaker 1: that we get into. They have now decided the NFL

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Speaker 1: that All American Football Conference stats will count towards NFL stats.

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Speaker 1: Can anyone in either room tell me what the All

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Speaker 1: American Football Conference is. I should have prepped you on this,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't any idea, any idea. It was a

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Speaker 1: league that merged with the NFL, but not the AFL.

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Speaker 1: It was back like in the late forties into fifty

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Speaker 1: that merged with the NFL. And I believe you know

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Speaker 1: there's a number of teams that still exist from the

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Speaker 1: afcaf Discussia.

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Speaker 3: He absolutely would.

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Speaker 4: I miss Wes, he's so much knowledge on this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the AAFC was eight teams at the time,

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00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 1: the NFL was ten teams at the time. They forced

881
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: a merger, and from that merger, the Cleveland Browns were born. Well,

882
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: they were already there winning titles with Paul Brown back

883
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: in the AFC. The San Francisco forty nine ers come

884
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: from that, and then the New York Yanks, which eventually

885
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Speaker 1: I believe became the Giants.

886
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 3: Also using baseball team shout out to the Los Angeles Dons.

887
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: Did not know that that was a team.

888
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: What we need to find merch and they.

889
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: Play at the college they played at the coliseum literally

890
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: still exists. But the big takeaway from this for me

891
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: is that Paul Brown now gets like twenty seven more wins,

892
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: so he moves up the all time coaching list.

893
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 3: He's now up to number seven.

894
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: A lot of people would say maybe the most important

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00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: person if you had to choose one in the history

896
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: of football, Bill Belichick would say Paul Brown would be

897
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: the most important one, at least in terms of the NFL,

898
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: like in terms of modern and then this one is

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00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: the one. I like Marion Motley, who is also Belichick's

900
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: favorite all time player, a running back full back with

901
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: the Browns, is now the all time leader in yards

902
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: per carry, not counting quarterbacks like Lamar and Michael Vicker

903
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: ahead of them, but in terms of running backs, Mary

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00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: and Motley. So I just thought, if you want to

905
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: know about football like that, that's that's something. Let's talk

906
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: a little bit about Micah Parsons. As we were taping,

907
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones spoke about Michael Parsons's contract situation. Michael Parsons

908
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: then quickly responded on Twitter, let's listen to Jerry Jones.

909
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 7: The agent is not a factor here of something to

910
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 7: worry about. And I don't know his name, awful And

911
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 7: so my point is that I'm not trying to domeaning

912
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 7: in any way, but just saidn't about an agent. The

913
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 7: agent doesn't have one thing to do with what we're

914
00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 7: doing when we get on a football field against the team. Condo.

915
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 5: There it is Jerry Jones and I are on the

916
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 5: same execs. Since the agent is not an issue in

917
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 5: this what's what's the prohibiting factor?

918
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: I I don't know, But that agent is David Mullagetta,

919
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: who is the most powerful agent I would say in

920
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: the NFL, one of the most powerful people. I would say,

921
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: Jerry knows his name in the NFL.

922
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: That's two.

923
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: Well, it could go both ways. Maybe not right.

924
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. He might he might be saying that

925
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: to make a point, which I would love, or you know,

926
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: so petty, he might just be getting up there. Michael

927
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: Pyson's responded uh on Twitter, sayting facts, David is the best.

928
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: I will not be doing any deal without him involved,

929
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: like anyone with good sense. I hired experts for a reason.

930
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: There's no one I trust more. There will be no

931
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: back doors in this contract. Like, uh, I don't even

932
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: know what that means. How that is responding to the thing.

933
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 1: But Jerry Jones that was it's pretty disrespectful, I guess,

934
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: or just ignorance, I don't know, Or.

935
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 5: It's a proper analysis of the way that the system works. Yeah,

936
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 5: you know. David Mugiletta is an employee of Michael Parsons,

937
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 5: who's gonna harvest three percent of his earnings or between

938
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Speaker 5: one and three percent. I don't know. I don't know

939
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 5: exactly what he's paying paying them for.

940
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't planning to bring this up either, but

941
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: it's mullagedda day. Apparently across the national media. On First

942
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: Take this morning, they were talking about Jimmy Haslm's comments

943
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: They're the Browns owner about essentially how you know they

944
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: had the big swing and a miss with Deshaun Watson.

945
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: And as they were talking about that in context, all

946
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: the hosts and it was Stephen A. Smith, Shannon Sharp,

947
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: and Ryan Clark all went out of their way to

948
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: praise David Mullagetta and saying what a great job that

949
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: David Melageda did negotiating that contract. And they're all laughing

950
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: about it and saying, like, what an amazing job that

951
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: he did in that scenario. And so I do want

952
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: to point out what he did in that scenario was

953
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: essentially get the entire media landscape to stay quiet about

954
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: how much the sexual assault allegations were going to affect

955
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: the rest of Deshaun Watson's career and kind of like

956
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: look past that as a factor in what a contract

957
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 1: would be and convince the Browns to sign a sexual

958
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 1: predator for two hundred and thirty million dollars, not only

959
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: ruining their franchise because he was not good at football anymore,

960
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: but because of all those allegations and the endless kind

961
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: of court battles that he was in and the suspension

962
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: that kept him away from the game, you know, potentially

963
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: affected not only himself and how his career is basically over,

964
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: but also made it a miserable experience to root for

965
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: the Browns or play for the Browns or be employed

966
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: by the Browns for three years. And those three guys

967
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: are all laughing and saying what a great job the

968
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: agent did, But also there was a great job.

969
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 4: There were teams lining up for this, So the Browns

970
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 4: were just the ones that ended up with him, but

971
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 4: it could have been.

972
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: The Saints, yeah, or the Falcons.

973
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 5: Yeah. It honestly gives Mugalletta too much credit that the

974
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 5: landscape was fine with Deshaun Watson coming back. That's how

975
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 5: he came back. As Jimmy Haslam said, we'll give him

976
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 5: credit for saying the thing he wanted him ultimately, and

977
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 5: Mugalletta had a player who was in what we thought

978
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 5: was the problem of his career, who was an actual

979
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 5: free agent and had the leverage in that situation. There

980
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 5: were there were other agents. I would argue that I right,

981
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 5: in that position, we could have negotiated a a guarantee.

982
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: What a plot to us that would be if you

983
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: became an agent, Yeah.

984
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 5: It would be. And unfortunately I would have to tell

985
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 5: the people the truth that the player is the person

986
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 5: who's actually providing the labor. And if a team is

987
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 5: interested in the services of the player, then they could

988
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 5: contact the player and make the deal without me. Right.

989
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'll take I'll take money. But this idea

990
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 5: that he was necessary in that way. Too many people

991
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 5: were willing to give to shop lots of money.

992
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: Sure, but also all these years later, this is an

993
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: ultimate example of the classic tweet that you do not,

994
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: under any circumstances, got to hand it to them. You

995
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: do not have to hand it to Dave David mullagetto

996
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: what what he did in that moment. He was He

997
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: was not ultimately in service of his client, like any

998
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 1: any of it was not a good.

999
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 5: Job or any client right where the league is now

1000
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 5: going to be more reluctant to give a player full

1001
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 5: of guaranteed contract specifically because of this situation. It may

1002
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 5: have got for business, it may have set everybody back.

1003
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: Well, that was a detour I didn't expect to make

1004
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: a necessary one as Yeah, a very annoying thing to

1005
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: see this this morning, truly to stop.

1006
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 3: Uh, let's just wrap with a couple of little little nuggets.

1007
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan said theyre going to bring in a kicker

1008
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: to compete with Jake Moody, So you're you're on watch.

1009
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 1: Jed Yorke, their owner, said that they're not far apart

1010
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: on brock Purty contract talks.

1011
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's good.

1012
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 5: That's that agent is working out.

1013
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: I don't want that to the last all offseason. Then

1014
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: some contract extension talks depending on the source or These

1015
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: were mostly from GM's and coaches, Derrick Henry, Terry McLaurin,

1016
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: Kyrin Williams of the Rams, Terry McLaurin of course with

1017
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: the Commanders, Henry with the Ravens.

1018
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: They all might be getting some.

1019
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: Contract extensions. I would sign you guys to contract extend

1020
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: if I could, well, thanks Greg, and not even take

1021
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: three percent. This would have been the crew last season.

1022
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: If you're a real NFL Daily completist, then you listen

1023
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: to all the shows and your interest in this sort

1024
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: of minutia. Originally the show was Colleen Patrick and myself,

1025
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: I believe, on Wednesdays, but scheduling didn't work out, and

1026
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: then you ended up doing Tuesday.

1027
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 3: But it would have been a great show.

1028
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: It would have been great. It could be still, it

1029
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 2: could still be.

1030
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 3: Like it is.

1031
00:49:58,960 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 5: Yeah it is.

1032
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 2: Are you rout like politicking for the schedule next year?

1033
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 3: No, right now, I'm not.

1034
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 5: I just want to have one.

1035
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 3: These are the things. Yes, yes, same, same, same same.

1036
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: It's in the titles.

1037
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: Love football, We love our jobs.

1038
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 3: So they have to do. You want to keep it,

1039
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 3: they have to keep it going. But Tuesday is just

1040
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 3: a natural fit for you. It is Wednesday.

1041
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 5: You know.

1042
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 3: We love having you here on Tuesday, though, Patrick, appreciate you.

1043
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 5: Glad to be here.

1044
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: We uh thank Jordan right rig of the yeah for

1045
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: joining us as well.

1046
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: I hope for armas Okay, her shoulders must be burning.

1047
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's gonna have to balance that out.

1048
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: Everyone in the research department in the back to Christy

1049
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: Stapleton is here. Yes, we will be back on Wednesday

1050
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: with Dave Damaschef. Yeah, when we're when we're going over

1051
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: like Mulagetta for the million time.

1052
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Speaker 3: You know, football's pat