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Speaker 1: I hope everybody's had an awesome week like I have,

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Speaker 1: absolutely with my eyeballs glued to my phone screen and

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Speaker 1: A cubable and a cubable is that right? That? That

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Speaker 1: the recipient of my uh and unending uh suggestions about

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Speaker 3: Well, see, I had a whole plan. I'm on, like

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Speaker 1: I think you're right, man, I think honestly this was

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Speaker 1: Give me the ones thet give give me the ones

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Speaker 1: some stuff that will melt your mind.

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Speaker 2: Jordi, everything's built in my mind this way.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying. If you go back and

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Speaker 1: you you know, every year since then, Mike Lindell had

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Speaker 1: this cyber security thing every single summer and had people

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Speaker 1: all the like top secure cybersecurity experts out there review

439
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 1: the vulnerabilities, which you know, there's several documentaries that were

440
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: made in twenty nineteen and earlier. In fact, what's crazy

441
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Speaker 1: to me is that after Trump's first election, the entire

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Speaker 1: left they were like, our elections are fried. I mean

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Speaker 1: Clinton herself, who actually did the nefarious reality of Russiagate

444
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Speaker 1: and orchestrated in greenlit the whole bullshit about him and

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Speaker 1: the p tapes and all that stuff. I mean, that

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Speaker 1: drives me nuts. Then she's saying, you know, the elections

447
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Speaker 1: were a sham strolling.

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00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 2: By Donald Trump.

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00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: It was stolen. Yeah, that's right. But twenty twenty, man,

450
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: that one was the clean, perfect election. Yeah, it's just garbage, man.

451
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: And so this is a much bigger story. I hope again,

452
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: do your homework, get out there, look this stuff up.

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Speaker 1: Go get an ex account, right you Who's groc? We're

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Speaker 1: at Groc three, which is kind of sadly one of

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Speaker 1: my new best friends. But that's super Groc now, you know,

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00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: it's funny, dude, I was, you know now, like I'll

457
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Speaker 1: be in the middle of dinner with the kids and

458
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: they'll say something. I'm like that that's bs, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna look it up. And it used to be

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Speaker 1: that female voice. And there was something strange, like some

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Speaker 1: kind of weird like they were always ready to go

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Speaker 1: towards like the bizarre, you know, kind of a little

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Speaker 1: you know, innuendo, towards flirtation and stuff. My wife looks

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Speaker 1: at me and goes, what are you doing? So I

465
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Speaker 1: had to shift to the dude and the dudes he's cool,

466
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Speaker 1: but we're starting to brow out a little bit. So

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, I probably got I probably got

468
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Speaker 1: at least probably about seven more months before, like my

469
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Speaker 1: new full best friend is groc you know.

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Speaker 2: The dude Groc. Yeah, what's coming on to you? Bro?

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Speaker 1: Dude, that's the only you know, that's the only place

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Speaker 1: I get it. That's horrible to say about my wife. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, sweetie, I love you, all right, all right.

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Speaker 1: So twenty twenty twenty election. Man, that that's a big one,

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Speaker 1: all right. That's not even the biggie. That's not even the.

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Speaker 3: Bigger one of these stories would have been a crazy

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Speaker 3: week one one.

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Speaker 1: Bro. Now they're just like they're down here. They don't

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Speaker 1: even they don't even top the news, the news the

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Speaker 1: top of the news waves, the news John, the news

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Speaker 1: cress there. All right, let's hit it, shall we? All Right?

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Speaker 1: The next one is the one that's the most concerning,

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Speaker 1: obviously for me, for many different reasons, mostly because of

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Speaker 1: my extensive time overseas and the loss of life that

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Speaker 1: I have with a lot of my friends and and

486
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Speaker 1: and peers and people from my community over the last

487
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Speaker 1: twenty plus years of the g WATT. This is another

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Speaker 1: potential global escalation and hot war in the Middle East

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Speaker 1: between Israel and Iran. If you're not really understand this.

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Speaker 1: You know, prior to nineteen seventy nine, when the Islamic

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Speaker 1: Revolution overthrew the Shah, who, by the way, we installed

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Speaker 1: in early nineteen fifties and if you want to go

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Speaker 1: down that rabbit hole, that's a doozy there. Brett Weinstein

494
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Speaker 1: on the Dark Horse podcast he covered that a little

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Speaker 1: bit this week. You know, once they got overthrown. It

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Speaker 1: was after that when kind of the Islamic revolutions in

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Speaker 1: the Eyetoll has really started to have bad relations. They

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Speaker 1: had kind of had semi normal relations prior to that,

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Speaker 1: and I think, you know, over the years that has

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Speaker 1: just progressively gotten worse. Why because Iran is the number

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Speaker 1: one sponsor of terrorism in the region with Hamas and

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Speaker 1: Hesba lah to which you know, both of those organizations

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Speaker 1: have been actively trying to seek an intifada in a

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Speaker 1: war with Israel. I think that kind of culminated on

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Speaker 1: October seventh, where most intelligence believed that Hamas had full

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Speaker 1: backing from Iran as well as other extremist Islamic extremist

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Speaker 1: groups out there, you know, and you know, there was

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Speaker 1: a lot of other things, you know, Iran or Israel,

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Speaker 1: baumb the Iranian consulate in Damascus. This is back in

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Speaker 1: April twenty four, killing the senior irc GC officials. Iran

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Speaker 1: retaliated with over three hundred drones on April thirteenth. July

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Speaker 1: thirty first, twenty four was the assassination of leader Ismail

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Speaker 1: Haneiya and Tehran. September twenty fourth, Israel killed Hesblah leader

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Speaker 1: Hassan Nasara Lebanon, to which Iran reacted with one hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty ballistic missiles. You know, and I think in

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Speaker 1: this initial one which began it, it really was, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: Iran is going to have a nuclear weapon and we

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Speaker 1: can't deal. And they didn't say how close. They said

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Speaker 1: that they had moved past the threshold. There was report

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Speaker 1: from the IEA dinging them that they had increased uranium

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Speaker 1: production and that violated their non proliferation obligations. And that

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Speaker 1: was on June twelfth. So you know what happened on

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Speaker 1: June twelfth Operation Rising Lion, where essentially you had Israel

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Speaker 1: basically go big man and they launched a massive strike

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Speaker 1: on their positions and let's say they hit the nata's

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Speaker 1: nuclear site. The Isfaran Nuclear Research had a bunch of military,

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Speaker 1: over one hundred military targets, including missile defense sites, the

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Speaker 1: IRGC headquarters, senior military figures including the IRGC Commander, General

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Speaker 1: Hassan Selamant Salomi, the Chief of General Chief of Staff,

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Speaker 1: General Mohammad of Bagheri, along with some nuclear scientists and

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Speaker 1: some others. I mean, apparently they said their cat their

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Speaker 1: Iran's Health Ministry said two hundred and twenty four deaths,

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Speaker 1: mostly civilians, including twenty children. Israel's justificasing it was their

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Speaker 1: last chance if they didn't do this, that they were

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Speaker 1: going to have it now. I will say, you know always,

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Speaker 1: I mean there are ally and we you know, we

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Speaker 1: you know, you have a certain adherence to them. But

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Speaker 1: there are mashups going around x last few days of

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Speaker 1: the fact that Nenyahu has basically been saying this for

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Speaker 1: the past twenty five years, that they were right on

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Speaker 1: the prespice. In fact, I was part of a program

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Speaker 1: at Blackwater where we were helping build out kind of

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Speaker 1: a maritime reconnaissance capability in the country of Iran excuse me,

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Speaker 1: Azerbaijan back in two thousand and four into five, and

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Speaker 1: we were hoping that they would be able to run

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Speaker 1: surveillance on the ships moving from Russia in Iran, Iran

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Speaker 1: into Russia carrying nuclear materials, and we'd get some information

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Speaker 1: through that. Now it was two thousand and five, and

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Speaker 1: at then they were on the precipice of a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 1: You know. Iran's initial response that this was a declaration

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Speaker 1: of war. They hit massive targeting over the last several years,

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Speaker 1: including people trying to cut the head off the snake. Well, uh,

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Speaker 1: and so he called it a declaration of war. Now,

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Speaker 1: the interesting thing initially about this was that Mark Rubio

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Speaker 1: had come out and said, hey, listen, we did not participate. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they did this on their own. Then that kind of

557
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: morphed into a Trump saying, yeah, we knew that what

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Speaker 1: was up. We were, we were in support of it.

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Speaker 1: We didn't, you know, participate Ted Cruz. I'll get the

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Speaker 1: Ted cruise in a second. And and then Trump ultimately

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Speaker 1: called for Iran's unconditional surrender. So that's that's the interesting

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Speaker 1: run one right there. Unconditional surrender. Now, what does that mean.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's in the administration has yet to fully outline what

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Speaker 1: an unconditional surrender is. I'm hoping that it's uh uh,

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Speaker 1: what it means is that they're going to stop their

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Speaker 1: desire for nuclear proliferation and continue to build or guests

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Speaker 1: move towards a box. And by the way, you have

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Speaker 1: to understand that we actually supported the beginning of their

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Speaker 1: nuclear power back in the fifties as well too, so

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Speaker 1: we participated in the initiation of that. And I will

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Speaker 1: say they have allowed the atomic the IEA in there

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Speaker 1: over the course of years. I mean, if you go

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Speaker 1: back and you dig in a little bit on the

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Speaker 1: agreement that was cut under the Abomba administration to the

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Speaker 1: tune of sending them billions of dollars in cash pallets,

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Speaker 1: that's interesting. But what really happened was the response I

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00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: think has been a little bit more shocking than everybody imagine.

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Speaker 1: They started launching missiles, hundreds of missiles hitting Tel Aviv,

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Speaker 1: Haifa and Pitak Kiva, killing people. They have purported four

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Speaker 1: elderly residents, including eighty seven. That was June fifteenth, counter

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Speaker 1: strikes Netahau's statement and then where they started saying we're

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Speaker 1: not ruling out striking the Supreme Leader Kamani. So it

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Speaker 1: really just kind of its culminated and just on June nineteenth,

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Speaker 1: which was today, I ran hit a hospital. No deaths

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Speaker 1: were reported. You know, if you go on the other

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Speaker 1: side and you look at at what the other side

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Speaker 1: has reported. Reuters actually reported that the IDF had bombed

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Speaker 1: hospitals in Gaza. Again, I think everybody always says, well,

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Speaker 1: they housed terraces and Theirs and Israel's like they're hitting

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Speaker 1: civilian targets. Meanwhile, at the end of both sides, I

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Speaker 1: think civilians at high numbers have the potential to die.

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Speaker 1: I think Gosin's I'm not even sure what those numbers are,

593
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Speaker 1: but they're high. Not Yahoo's defense minister just came out

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Speaker 1: and I want to play this little clip for you

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Speaker 1: right now. You got that, Jordan, I will go your name,

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Speaker 1: all right, So this man should not continue. It exists.

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Speaker 1: So what we really started out.

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Speaker 2: With for for people on the on audio only, what

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Speaker 2: did he say?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I thought everybody uh in the here

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Speaker 1: spoke Persian. My bad. I saw it. And you know

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Speaker 1: it's funny. My person is pretty much extends to stop,

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Speaker 1: don't move, or I'll shoot you in the face, or

604
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Speaker 1: used to anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and where's the bathroom?

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Speaker 1: Uh No, I didn't have to worry about that stuff

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Speaker 1: over there, So the reality is he basically came out

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Speaker 1: and said, listen, Kamani has to go. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's what the whole thing is escalated to now, where

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Speaker 1: it's like we started with, I cannot have a nuclear

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Speaker 1: weapon right or produce nuclear weapons, absolutely, not no chance

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Speaker 1: in how to Now it's we need a complete regime change.

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Speaker 1: And this has been an objective of foreign policy for

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Speaker 1: our government for quite a long time, and it's definitely

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Speaker 1: been a major objective for Netau and his government, you know,

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Speaker 1: And so what does that mean now? Luckily I I

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Speaker 1: just saw a report today from Jack Probisak pro How

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Speaker 1: do you Pasovic? I'm sorry Jack, if you hear this,

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Speaker 1: which you probably won't, but he came out just earlier

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Speaker 1: and said Trump is going to have a two week

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Speaker 1: pause before they retaliate. Now I'm hoping that this is

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Speaker 1: more of Trump's master for masterful negotiation, kind of let's

623
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Speaker 1: make a deal tactics, like yeah, we're all in, we're

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Speaker 1: going to support. We moved two carrier groups into the area.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it gives them time to reposition troops to move

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Speaker 1: troops out. We have about fifty forty to fifty thousand

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Speaker 1: troops in the region, all by which Iranian missile systems

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Speaker 1: can strike those locations. There's a huge group of super

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Speaker 1: of fuel tankers that moved over into Europe, left the

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Speaker 1: country two days ago, So there is definitely a build

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Speaker 1: up to support and get behind Israel and all this.

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Speaker 1: So what are you supposed to think about all this? Well,

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Speaker 1: my idea, my belief is that you know, Iran, our

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Speaker 1: bunch of pretty crazy people. They have been targeting US

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Speaker 1: troops for a pretty long period of time. You can

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Speaker 1: argue potentially the Beirut bombings there was support what from Hesblah,

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Speaker 1: maybe some others. Certainly there have been attacks during the

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Speaker 1: GWATT in particular Iraq when we started to see the

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Speaker 1: very unique and sophisticated v BID vehicle born explosive devices

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Speaker 1: that could penetrate those are very sophisticated, killed a lot

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Speaker 1: of American servicemen and women, you know, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's they are definitely represent a threat to Israel. Now

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Speaker 1: is it an existential threat? I don't, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm struggling to understand what that is. They certainly have

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Speaker 1: every right to launch whatever they want at Iran in

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Speaker 1: any way they want to do it, but unfortunately the

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Speaker 1: repercussions of that could be catastrophic because of not only

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Speaker 1: the amount of missile systems which some are some suggests

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Speaker 1: it's around three three thousand of missile systems. And then

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Speaker 1: we've seen a couple hyper songs kids Uh into Israel

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Speaker 1: which just completely wipe out their iron dome. So is

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Speaker 1: it accelerated to an existential set? Certainly we know that

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Speaker 1: they believe it is. A good friend of mine was

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Speaker 1: over there recently with a bunch of businessmen and they

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Speaker 1: were trying to see how they could support the IDF,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he got a behind the scenes look

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Speaker 1: with what was going on with the attacks on on

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Speaker 1: Israeli civilians and what was happening, and he was you

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Speaker 1: know it was and he saw that kind of unedited

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Speaker 1: video from October seven. Listen, I know that the people

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Speaker 1: that they support their savages, all all people who wage

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Speaker 1: terror on other people. You know, I have no love

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Speaker 1: loss for them at all, and they deserve what they get. However,

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Speaker 1: what I'm challenged with this is what happens next, and

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Speaker 1: that's what I'd like to see. What is the plan?

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Speaker 1: What is the plan of a regime change?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: When you get into this next part of what really

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Speaker 1: kind of emerged out of this that I thought was

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Speaker 1: fascinating was the conflict on the right that has blown up.

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Speaker 1: been a deterioration within the right, within the magabase, within

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Speaker 1: the MAGA movement, and I'm working on a show to

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Speaker 1: outline that for you so you can really get down.

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Speaker 1: You want to talk about a rabbit hole that you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a couple people out there that are now using

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Speaker 1: a very prolific term called the woke right, and and

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Speaker 1: that argument has really kind of got into this you

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Speaker 1: verse them, and it seems to be really focused around

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Speaker 1: this Israel issue. Uh, and that's kind of the the

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Speaker 1: trigger point for these online journalist pundits whatever you want

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Speaker 1: to call us right now. So the main conflict isn't

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Speaker 1: right that's taking place with this issue the Israel Iran

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Speaker 1: issue is that let me just back up one quick

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Speaker 1: lastly too about the nuclear program. That I found fascinating

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Speaker 1: is that this other little piece took place as Iran was,

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Speaker 1: you know, trying to say, hey, this is all at war.

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Speaker 1: Was that several countries came to their backing, including including huh,

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Speaker 1: Pakistan and the Pakistan Who was it? I forget who

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Speaker 1: it was, but a Pakistani senior official said, if Israel

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Speaker 1: strikes Iran with a nuclear capability, we will strike them back. Now,

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Speaker 1: you understand, there has not been a tremendous amount of

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Speaker 1: conflict Pakistan, where it's one hundred and twenty seven million people,

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Speaker 1: who by the way, allowed bin Laden to live one

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Speaker 1: mile from from a major Pakistani military trainings where they

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Speaker 1: trained their officers. And if you go back and if

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Speaker 1: you look on TikTok and what basically bin Laden suggested

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Speaker 1: was his reasons for nine to eleven and for his

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Speaker 1: fight was partially because of a US support of Israel,

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Speaker 1: and that's available, you can find it. Now. Pakistan has

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Speaker 1: never come out and openly said anything. They've had some

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Speaker 1: rubs after the Islamic Revolution, obviously which they were entrenched

729
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Speaker 1: in the early eighties too, but recently with this guy,

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Speaker 1: they're basically escalating that conflict or the potential conflict between them.

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Speaker 1: So now you've got which is another but they are

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Speaker 1: part or no, they had put So when you think

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Speaker 1: about the atomic hw with the IAEA and the countries

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Speaker 1: that are a part of it, the two countries that

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Speaker 1: are essentially in this this whole thing that have not

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Speaker 1: been a part of the nuclear proliferation trail are Pakistan

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Speaker 1: and Iran. Nope, they're in there. Israel. Now, Israel has

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Speaker 1: a whole nuclear program that they do not acknowledge publicly.

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Speaker 1: We do know that it did come out. There was

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Speaker 1: a gentleman in who was wrapped up by Masad who

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Speaker 1: had leaked a bunch of documents and photos of Israel's

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Speaker 1: Israel's nuclear program trying to find it's his name hold on.

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Speaker 1: But what I find interesting is why does it Israel

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Speaker 1: and their program have to join the I A E. A.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure why why that is. But again, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's up to them whether they want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of it or not. But now we have multiple

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Speaker 1: nuclear uh groups out there threatening each other, and that's

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Speaker 1: just bad anyways, So that Jordi has devolved in and

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Speaker 1: I know you and I've been texting frantically about the

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Speaker 1: Titans in this space, right, the Titan in the conservative

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Speaker 1: media space.

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Speaker 3: You see the I mean everyone's talking about the the

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Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson, Ted Cruz. Fiasta, dude, Bro, dude, I gotta

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Speaker 3: I gotta image for you real quick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Please, this is the joke going around.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, are we gonna put a meme.

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Speaker 2: The gun say his name? Every Iranian?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: So the good thing about that is, like, no matter

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Speaker 3: who you agree with, Tucker Cruz, whatever side, John.

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Speaker 2: We can all appreciate a good meme.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 1: I think memes are literally saving the world right now.

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Speaker 1: And I'm and I'm not. That's not my line, by

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Speaker 1: the way. I think there's been hundreds of people have

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Speaker 1: said that, and we we definitely. So if you're if

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Speaker 1: you love making memes, would you do us a favor?

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Speaker 1: Would you post a meme underneath the show when we

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Speaker 1: post this show. We didn't post this tomorrow, Jordan.

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Speaker 2: We're posting this tomorrow and it'll be on X on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: All right, perfect, We want you to post your best memes,

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Speaker 1: uh that involved me in this show or ideas or

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Speaker 1: anything about me. I'd love to see those I love,

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Speaker 1: I love if we can keep some of this light, right,

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Speaker 1: even if it's and the darker the humor, the better. Please,

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Speaker 1: I want to see it, all right. So the conflict

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Speaker 1: on right right now, this this cat fight that's brewing

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Speaker 1: right and I you know, I say what we call

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Speaker 1: up the UFC just started the luded jiu jitsu tournaments too.

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Speaker 1: I say, we get three against three in that jiu

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Speaker 1: jitsu jiu jitsu pit and I have we have him

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Speaker 1: go out of it like maybe wearing some medieval armor,

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Speaker 1: and we get him like the battle axes like you

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Speaker 1: you know, and then we sell the big one of

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Speaker 1: those things, the big turkey legs that everybody eatsweather dude.

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Speaker 2: Imagine imagine the pay per view on that, oh bro.

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Speaker 1: It would be.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: The big one right now is people want to see

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Speaker 1: pdbuh do a pay per view debate with Ben Shapiro

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Speaker 1: and Dave Smith, which would he was just yeah, he

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Speaker 1: was just what he was. There's a great segment he

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Speaker 1: just did with Piers Morgan h where he debated Constantine.

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Speaker 1: Constant Uh, two comedians went had to head about whatever

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Speaker 1: the Israel Iran thing now right now. So you got

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk who's on one side, Steve In, Matt Walsh,

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Speaker 1: and Tucker Carlson, and they're all essentially saying the same thing,

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Speaker 1: which is, hey, we do not need another war that

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Speaker 1: involves America in the Middle East. That's their stance when

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Speaker 1: you drill down, that's what they're saying at its court.

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Speaker 1: The other side, you've got Clay Travis, who we fall

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Speaker 1: underneath the bucking Clay trav Clay Travis, Sean Hannity, Glenn

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Speaker 1: Beck and Mark Levin who are on the other side.

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Speaker 1: He said, no, we have to there's no way we

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Speaker 1: have to get rid of the leadership in Iran. We

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Speaker 1: have to allow we have to have a total regime change,

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Speaker 1: and we have to be able to support that to

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Speaker 1: whatever degree, including boots on the ground American support. Now,

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Speaker 1: I will say that all of the other guys, Kirk, Bannon, Wals,

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Speaker 1: Carlson have all said they one hundred percent don't believe

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Speaker 1: that Iran should be able to have a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 1: So they've said that, but they don't believe that we

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Speaker 1: need to engage. Now some of them have said, including Tucker, said,

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Speaker 1: you know why is American foreign policy being led by

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Speaker 1: the State of Israel and and uh, you know, and

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Speaker 1: then the other side is like they are our greatest

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Speaker 1: ally Without them, radical fundamental Uh, Islamic terrorism is going

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Speaker 1: to come over to America. In fact, many people who

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Speaker 1: support the attacks and regime change, including Sarah Adams who's

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Speaker 1: always on Seawan show, who are also predicting an eminent

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Speaker 1: terrorist attack in the United States. You can watch her

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Speaker 1: talk about that on Sean show. Uh. They have said,

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Speaker 1: uh that you know, unless we do this, we're under

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Speaker 1: direct threat that we're going to have the effects. And

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Speaker 1: then even uh, I think you know with that, Tucker

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Speaker 1: Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz insinuated that the Iranans have been

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Speaker 1: trying to kill the president for a long period of time.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't able to confirm the intelligence or anything on that,

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Speaker 1: but he says they are actively trying. All right, holy cow,

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Speaker 1: So ask a good question, Please send it see if

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Speaker 1: you agree with this.

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Speaker 3: Now, this isn't some hot, spicy political take. This is

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Speaker 3: just literally me trying to be what what is boring nowadays,

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Speaker 3: which is called being a little bit nuanced.

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Speaker 6: Right, So on what what do you mean? There's no

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Speaker 6: nuance in this stuff. It's just black and white. It's

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Speaker 6: there's good guys and there's bad guys. Jordy, come on, man,

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Speaker 6: get on the train.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Pick a train and get on.

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Speaker 3: It's no I was gonna say, I don't think either

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Speaker 3: side is once war just in general, like nobody ever

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Speaker 3: just loves the idea of war.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: And then on another side, no one would disagree that

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Speaker 3: if you had an imminent threat coming towards the United States,

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Speaker 3: that we wouldn't use military action to defend our own nation.

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Speaker 3: Like everyone agrees on both of those points. It sounds

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Speaker 3: like where the disagreement is there's a threshold at which

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Speaker 3: America should intervene in some kind of conflict, and people

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Speaker 3: put that threshold at different spots. Is that kind of

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Speaker 3: That's kind of how I'm reading it.

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Speaker 2: But what do you? What are you?

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Speaker 1: But I agree that's that's exactly what it is. I

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Speaker 1: think everybody believes nobody wants more more American troops to die.

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Speaker 1: In particular me, I've lost so many friends, not only

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Speaker 1: to combat but also to suicide. You know, I mean

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Speaker 1: the I mean the estimates that similar like six thousand

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Speaker 1: former veterans or veterans are killing themselves every year, active

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Speaker 1: duty and veterans of killing them every year in America.

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Speaker 1: And that's the result of of the forever wars. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's a couple interesting people that are covering you know,

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Speaker 1: that have written amazing books. One is this guy, Scott

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Speaker 1: Horton at anti war dot com. He's got Enough Already

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Speaker 1: is the name of his book. I'm pretty sure. But

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Speaker 1: you know, nobody wants to engage in that anymore, in

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Speaker 1: particular my generation, my people, you know, my, my, my,

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Speaker 1: the people I care most about, people that I served

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Speaker 1: with and that I know that served in the soft community,

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Speaker 1: and you know, the Marines that were in Fallujah and

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Speaker 1: the Marja push and uh, you know Sean Parnell and

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Speaker 1: his crew, and you know, I mean, enough is enough already.

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Speaker 1: But I also believe that, uh, you know, people still

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Speaker 1: have this idea, this orientation that you know, uh, if

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Speaker 1: we need to step in to right or wrong, if

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Speaker 1: you will. My challenge is, you know, the past performance

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Speaker 1: of the US government on both sides has been pathetic,

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Speaker 1: uh in terms of of uh informing us in a

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Speaker 1: in a genuine, sincere and honest fashion. And that's what

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Speaker 1: I want. And I'm sure, that's what you want as

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Speaker 1: well too. You want to know, like, tell us, if

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Speaker 1: there's intelligence that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt

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Speaker 1: that I Ran is weeks away or a year away

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Speaker 1: or whatever away from a nuclear capability that they can

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Speaker 1: put on their missile systems, then show me, right, if

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Speaker 1: if China is giving them new uh, you know, ballistic

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Speaker 1: missile support to build out this, or if Russia is

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Speaker 1: giving them a support or our Pakistan is helping them

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Speaker 1: develop you know, like K K. Khan gave them the

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Speaker 1: information to start the program. If that's real, show us

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Speaker 1: the reports, show me the intel. I need to see it, uh.

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Speaker 1: And then I'll i'll, I'll take a look at that

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Speaker 1: and say all right, well what's what's the risk? And

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Speaker 1: then the other thing is what's your plan? Please?

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Speaker 2: Please?

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Speaker 1: You know even that Yahoo man, what's your plan? What

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Speaker 1: is the plan? What is the end game? Because certainly

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Speaker 1: we know you know, he said prior to the Iraq

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Speaker 1: War that if we got rid of Saddam Hussein that

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Speaker 1: peace would flood the Middle East, and that is not

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Speaker 1: what has taken place. In fact, it destabilized the region

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Speaker 1: to a certain to such an extent that you know,

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Speaker 1: over a million Iraqi civilians, right, thousands of Americans both

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Speaker 1: killed and then injured, you know, tens of thousands of

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Speaker 1: injured injuries. And then not to mention the the financial

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Speaker 1: cost of the GATS what eight trillion dollars? So is

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Speaker 1: that are we able? First tell me show me the

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Speaker 1: intelligence right, then tell me what the plan is, right,

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Speaker 1: and then tell me how much it's going to cost

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Speaker 1: and how it's going to affect the American population, because

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Speaker 1: right now I'm still having to deal with mid night

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Speaker 1: phone calls, uh, you know, telling me, oh, guess what

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Speaker 1: so and so just killed himself yesterday. And I'm still

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Speaker 1: making phone calls to friends, their their their wives who

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Speaker 1: around and say and checking into how's your kid doing nowadays?

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Speaker 1: So I'm still doing that. And this is the result

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Speaker 1: of of of what we got into for twenty years now.

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Speaker 1: I thought what would be interesting to kind of close

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Speaker 1: this out was to do a little research right on

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Speaker 1: on our ore. What was essentially what were the flaws

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Speaker 1: behind our last getting engaged in Iraq? And and what

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Speaker 1: was the precipice which that which why they Rumsfeld and

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Speaker 1: and and Cheney and Bush, how they sent Colin Powell.

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Speaker 1: We bring that that that visual up while I read this, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and then when I talked about the key source, bring

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Speaker 1: him up. All right. So I'm gonna read something that

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Speaker 1: Groc produced for me, and I want you to just

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Speaker 1: listen carefully, and then i'll finish. All right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: The intelligence flaws behind Colin Powell's two thousand and three

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Speaker 1: UN speech claiming Iraq had weapons of mass destruction stemmed

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Speaker 1: from a mix of faulty sources, analytical missteps, and political pressure.

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Speaker 1: Let me break it down. The primary intelligence came from

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Speaker 1: the US agencies like the CIA and the DIA, with

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Speaker 1: input from British MI six and other allies. A key

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Speaker 1: source was in Quotation Curveball, an Iraqi defector who claimed

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Speaker 1: Iraq had mobile bio weapons labs. His vivid accounts, relayed

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Speaker 1: through German intelligence, were central to Powell's presentation, complete with

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Speaker 1: the diagrams. But Curveball was unreliable and hand rollers warned

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Speaker 1: he might be fabricating, and he had no direct evidence.

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Speaker 1: The CIA never interviewed him, yet his claims were treated

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Speaker 1: as fact, inflated by analysts eager to confirm suspicions. Another

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Speaker 1: flaw was over reliance on outdated unverified data. Satellite imagery

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Speaker 1: and intercepts were interpreted as proof of WMD cap activity,

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Speaker 1: along with aluminum tubes supposedly for nuclear centerfuges. Experts later

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Speaker 1: showed that these tubes were likely for conventional rockets, but

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Speaker 1: dissenting voices in the intelligence community, like those from the

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Speaker 1: Department of Energy were sidelined SIGAN signals. Intelligence also proved

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Speaker 1: ambiguous with intercepted Iraqi communications misinterpreted as WNDMD cover ups

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Speaker 1: when they often reflected routine operations. Human sources beyond Curveball

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Speaker 1: were very thin. Exiled groups like ira I Racking National Congress,

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Speaker 1: led by Ahmad Chalabi, fed unverified tips from defectors, often

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Speaker 1: with agendas to topple Saddam Hussein. These were taken seriously

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Speaker 1: despite known credibility issues, as they aligned with the Bush

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Speaker 1: administration goals. Political pressure wrapped the process warped. The political

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Speaker 1: pressure warped the process. Senior officials, including Cheney and Rumsfeld,

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Speaker 1: learned that the CIA leaned sorry leaned on the CIA

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Speaker 1: to produce intelligence supporting warp. The Office of Special Plans,

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Speaker 1: set up by Runsfeld deputy Paul Wolfowitz, cherry picked raw

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Speaker 1: data to build a case bypassing standard vetting. A two

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Speaker 1: thousand and four Senate Intelligence Committee report later slammed this

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Speaker 1: as groupthink, noting analysts overstated weak evidence to please policymakers. Finally,

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Speaker 1: the UK's Dodgy Dossier, a similar Allied inputs reinforced US errors,

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Speaker 1: creating a feedback loop of badg intel. Powell spent days

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Speaker 1: at CIA headquarters vetting his speech, but even he was

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Speaker 1: fed a script built off these shaky pillars. He later

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Speaker 1: call it a blot on his record, as post war

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Speaker 1: inspections found no WMD stockpiles. The flaws originated a toxic

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Speaker 1: mix dubious sources, rushed analysis, suppressed dissidents, and a White

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Speaker 1: House driven ideological certainty post nine to eleven. Okay, now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Jordi, but that track record

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Speaker 1: is pretty poor. And I have three four young daughters,

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Speaker 1: one getting ready to go off to college, who will

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Speaker 1: be over eighteen here soon and will be up to

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Speaker 1: be recruited to go to war should this thing explode

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Speaker 1: into a greater kinetic fight. The track record for doubt

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Speaker 1: is significant, and that is cause enough to be able

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Speaker 1: to question whether or not America should engauge at a

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Speaker 1: higher level. That's just common sense. But also common sense

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Speaker 1: is to recognize that when you have strategic partners with people,

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Speaker 1: it's also critical do adhere to those partnerships because if

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Speaker 1: you don't and when you need them at times, they're

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Speaker 1: not going to be there. So I guess what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do, Jordie, is we're going to stand by to

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Speaker 1: stand by. All right, Thank you so much everybody. I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate you joining for this week in review. You

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Speaker 1: we've got there. All right, Jordy, man, I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what I don't know. If net week, if next week

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Speaker 1: is heavier than this week, Bro, this thing's going to

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Speaker 1: turn into a three hour show man.

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Speaker 3: just gets us more memes, so you know.

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Speaker 1: And God knows we need and God knows we need

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