1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three, 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: d and twelve, and today in the show, we're back 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: for another episode of our rut Fresh radio mini series 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: in which we're getting the latest and greatest intel on 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: what deer doing right now, the conditions that are present 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: in how to kill a buck? All right, welcome to 10 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Onyx. 11 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: We are here for another rut Fresh radio episode. This 12 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 1: is our weekly mini series during the hunting season in 13 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: which we chat with hunters from across the country about 14 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: what's happening right now, how current conditions are impacting dear behavior, 15 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: what the activity levels are, what the progress of the 16 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: rut is, and then ultimately, how can we kill a 17 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: buck right now? That's what we're in chat with all 18 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: these different guys about Spencer, you know, is running the 19 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: show as far as getting those interviews done, and he 20 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: is with me. Now, what's the word, Spencer? Things cranking out? Yeah, 21 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: across the country, hunters are excited because of all time 22 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: of year is late October. You can't go wrong. And 23 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: then we also have a cold front coming in, and uh, 24 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: my job gets even harder this time of year and 25 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: for like the next three weeks because guys are tougher 26 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: to track down. Everybody is in a tree stand, or 27 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: somebody is helping a buddy blood trailer deer, or somebody 28 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: is camping at some lodge where they don't have service. 29 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: And so you can always tell when hunters from our 30 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: podcast get more excited about the rut because they are 31 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: harder to track down. Have you had to interview anyone 32 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: in a tree stand yet? Like, is anyone called in 33 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: from the tree? No. Over the four years of doing this, 34 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: we've done a lot of interviews, like in vehicles on 35 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: the way to a hunt, but we haven't done that yet. 36 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: I think that should be your goal for this year 37 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: is try to get someone to give you a from 38 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: the tree report. That'd be good, that would uh, that 39 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: would make season for unique for sure. You know, maybe 40 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: maybe you can get it in the field report from me. 41 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: I'll be on the phone and then part way through 42 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: a conversation, as I'm whispering to you, my target bucks 43 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: gonna show up. And I'm gonna spook him. That would 44 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: be part of the course with me. So maybe I 45 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: should just keep that trend going, you know, or we 46 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: could title it watch Mark Screw Another hunt up. Have 47 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: you been out since our last chat? You did a 48 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: little bit of South Dakota Hunt or something last time 49 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: we talked. Anything since Um, I participated in Montana's rifle 50 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: opener killed a mule deer in full velvet. Yet he 51 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: was a stag buck cactus book jever term you prefer um, 52 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: I think the technical term would be like cryptosism, And 53 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing that, sorry to any 54 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: biologists out there who would know otherwise. But he had 55 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: UM two underdeveloped tests that never dropped, and so his 56 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: testosterone would never rise, and he did not participate in 57 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: the ruts. Uh. And it was just a really cool deer. 58 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: That's cool. It's it's kind of cool, uh, in particular 59 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: for you to have shot that, because I feel like 60 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: you've written a few articles about that. I remember seeing 61 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: you talking about this and like a couple of years ago, right. Yeah, 62 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated with the odd ball deer, the ones 63 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: that uh develop an extra main beam or the ones 64 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: that never shed their velvet or the ones that never dropped, 65 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: the rattlers, and I feel like I've covered all of 66 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: those at some point in my writing career. So to 67 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: see a deer like that in the field is is 68 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: kind of surreal to be like, oh, I know what's 69 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: going on here? Um, And so that was a fun hunt. Yeah. 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: Does something about those deer resonate with you? Can you 71 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: relate to them in some way? A little bit of 72 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: an oddball tests that never dropped. You wouldn't call me 73 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: the the baritone whatever otherwise, I guess that's a good point. Oh, 74 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: going off the rails here. Um. You know, last time 75 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: we talked, I kind of called it. I thought over 76 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: the next week I'd have a good chance at had 77 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: a good buck and just has not materialized. Um. We 78 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: had a three day hunt on the back forty that 79 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: was ridiculously slow. Between me and Doug during we saw 80 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: mm hmmm, one dough, one year and a half old buck, 81 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: and one button buck during shooting ours. Um over the 82 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: course of three days. So that was brutal. And then um, 83 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: I've been out handful more times trying to get after 84 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: Tran that four year old eight porn m after and 85 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: that hasn't been working out. Um, just seeing doze and 86 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: a few young bucks. Um, so you know that could. 87 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there's a quote unquote lull or 88 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: anything that was going on. I think simply we just 89 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: weren't in the right places. Um. You know, trying to 90 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: be somewhat conservative with the wind direction and making sure 91 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm not taking stab unless I've got the right conditions. Uh. 92 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: I thought I'd have some opportunities, but didn't happen. But 93 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: we had a cold front, like you said, coming through 94 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: today raining At the moment, I'm hoping it's going to 95 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: be like a light, misty drizzle. If that's the case 96 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: today and tomorrow would be really good and then just 97 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: cold weather from here and out into November. So so 98 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: I think things will be getting much better here soon. 99 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: But for me at least, it's been like a four 100 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: out of ten. Um. But any day now, any time now, 101 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: it's going to change. Yeah. And this time of year, 102 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 1: probably more than other times a year, hunters become concerned 103 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: with moon phase and there it's a full moon or 104 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: a new moon or whatever. Um. I don't dabble in 105 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: that stuff too much, Mark, but I know that even 106 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: if you don't, you still like pay close attention to it. 107 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: This year, we have a rutting moon on November twelfth, 108 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: which is very similar to when it was on November. 109 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: In theory, that should create a trickle rut. Can you 110 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: explain if what that means if you're somebody who believes 111 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: in the running moon. Okay, yeah, so I'm I'm not 112 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: someone who puts too much into that, um, but I 113 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: do kind of keep tabs on. I'm intrigued to buy 114 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: all the moon stuff, but I don't live and breathe 115 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: by it at all. UM. So yeah, that this running 116 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: moon is basically that the theory goes um that the 117 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: second full moon after the autumn equinox, I think supposedly 118 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: triggers peaking or the peak of running activity. That's the theory. Um. 119 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: And so in this case, with that November twelve running moon, 120 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: that would indicate a later peak of running activity and 121 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: usual um, which then can lead to something that has 122 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: been termed this trickle rut, which essentially just means uh, 123 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: slow ebbing and flowing of running activity. That will You'll 124 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: get a little bit of it in late October, and 125 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: then it'll be contrickle off, and then you'll get a 126 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: little bit more in mid November and it will kind 127 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: of trickle off. Basically, it's a it's a poor rut. 128 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: The theory goes when you have that kind of timing. Now, 129 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: the consensus across most biologists is that the moon does 130 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: not trigger actual breeding behavior. The changes in daylight trigger 131 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: breeding behavior, so that happens at the same time every 132 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: year in most places across the Midwest and the northern 133 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: half of the United States. That means that we're getting 134 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: a give or take typical mid November ish peak of 135 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: actual breeding. Would that be in the case, then the 136 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, the three to two to three weeks 137 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: before that peak are usually when you're seeing the running activity. 138 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: The hunters want to see the running around, the fighting, 139 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: the chasing, scraping, etcetera, etcetera. That's usually hamp happening as 140 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: we ramp up towards that point when the most does 141 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: are ready to breed. Um. So, no matter what the 142 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: moon tells me, I always know that the last week 143 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: of October in the first two weeks of November should 144 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: be pretty darn good. Um. Now, maybe could something with 145 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: the rut or with the moon, you know, impact the 146 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: intensity of daylight activity during those periods that I might 147 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: be a little bit more open to maybe there's some 148 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: connection with daylight movement versus nighttime movement and the intensity 149 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: that we see as hunters. There maybe could be something there. 150 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that. I don't know that's the case, 151 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: so I keep tabs on it. Um. I have not 152 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: seen any strong correlation with my own hunts and those timings, 153 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: but you know, if there's a good moon phase that 154 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: correlates with when I'm out there hunting, I'm I guess, 155 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, I'll take it if it helps me 156 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. Another moon thing that people pay attention 157 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: to this time of year is the red moon. Again, 158 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: this is a theory that I'm not bought into myself, 159 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: but I'm you know, open to look at it and 160 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: intrigued by it. Um. Adam Hayes always talks about this. 161 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: A number of pretty darn good hunters, you know, point 162 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: to the moon as as some kind of influencer. And 163 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: I guess it's worth noting that we do have a 164 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: red moon set of conditions coming up over the next 165 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: few days. UM. Basically, what this quote unquote. Red moon 166 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: is is when the moon is directly overhead or directly underfoot. 167 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: That means the moon is right up above you in 168 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: the sky, are all the way beneath us, And that 169 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: supposedly triggers a little bit more movement during daylight. And 170 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: so when that overhead or underfoot period coincides with the 171 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: usual peak of movement, which is as you know, dawn 172 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: or dusk, when you got the right moon that coincides 173 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: with that usual good time anyways, supposedly that's going to 174 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: help you see a little bit more. And we have 175 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: have that coming up. So Halloween tomorrow, we've got a 176 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: red moon time of four forty pm UM, at least 177 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: in in my neck of the woods. Friday November one, 178 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: five nine pm Saturday, the second, two Sunday the third. 179 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: So these are supposedly really good times to see a 180 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: little extra daylight movement during those evening sits. I can't 181 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: attest to it. I'm not vouching for I'm simply telling 182 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: you it's something some people pay attention to. Um And 183 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: like I said, if it leads to me killing Tran 184 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: tonight or tomorrow, I'm a happy camper. Yeah. And even 185 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: if you are a hunter who doesn't necessarily believe in 186 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: the moon phase or think that a trickle rut is 187 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: a reality. Um, you probably do pay attention in cold 188 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: fronts and looking ahead at the extended forecast. Here kind 189 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: of after these next few days we get a really 190 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: long bout of stagnant weather. And so I was looking 191 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: ahead to the dates for my rudication, which is November 192 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: one through ten, I believe, um, And it seemed like 193 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: there was no significant cold front or warm front during 194 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: that time. And so what that tells me in something 195 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: that we saw a few years ago. It might have 196 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: been twenty seventy, and I can't remember for certain, um, 197 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: when you get that stagment, whether you often get a 198 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: consistent wind direction. And so this is notable because if 199 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: you're a hunter who has a small property or limited 200 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: setups um or hasn't necessarily got into run and got 201 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: hunting yet, that you might burn out all of your 202 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: for example, north west wind stands when you have this 203 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: kind of stagnant weather, And so that's something to start 204 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: planning for right now. So it doesn't get to be 205 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: November four and you're looking at like the three day 206 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: forecast and you say, every day is a north wind, 207 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: and then you get to November seven and it's the 208 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: same thing. Um, So that's certainly something to plan for 209 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: as we get into those long stretches of guys hit 210 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: in the woods. That's a good point. It's looks like 211 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: a lot of cold weather, which is good. But to 212 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: your to what you just said, there a whole lot 213 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: of west, northwest or west winds at least as I'm 214 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: looking here in southern Michigan. So it's a great reason 215 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: to try to get a little bit mobile and try 216 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: some kind of running gun set allows you to switch 217 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: things up or hopefully people planned for those westerly winds 218 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: or whatever it is they've got in their neck of 219 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: the woods and and it will be ready for it. 220 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: But I only have I just looked at my tender 221 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: I have it only got one day where it switches 222 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: out of the east for a little bit, so it'll 223 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: be interesting. I planned for that, so I've got a 224 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: lot of westerly stands. But it is nice when you 225 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: can flip flop around with those changes. And we've always 226 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: talked about it. It seems like changes and weather often 227 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: trigger a little bump, and so it'll be interesting even 228 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: though what we have is good, it's stagnant, and sometimes 229 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 1: that's I think it'll be less. I'm guessing whether it 230 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: will be less of an influence or this rut simply 231 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: because there's not a lot of changes, it's probably gonna be. 232 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: We've got pretty good, decent weather conditions and then it's 233 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: just when do those dolls coming to heat and being 234 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: in the right spot. So that's my guess. We'll see. 235 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to call my shots this week. 236 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: Who the hell knows what's going to happen on my hunts, 237 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna try hard and uh see what happens. 238 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: So we'll beside from two of us this week, you're 239 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: gonna hear from Darton Harwick in New York from Flat 240 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: Line White Tales, and we go to Iowa and talk 241 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: to Matt Peterson from MDL Outfitters, and then in Alabama 242 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: from Southern Ground Hunting, we talked to Parker McDonald, and 243 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: then we interviewed David Grisolt from Tagg and Brigg in Ohio. Cool, Well, 244 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: should we wrap this up, let people hear these interviews 245 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: and then get him off to the tree. Yeah, we'll 246 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Mark sounds good alright, and 247 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: joining us on the line. Next is Darton Hardwick from 248 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: Flat Line, White Tales in New York. Now Darton in 249 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: New York. What would you say the buck activities been 250 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: lately on a scale of one to ten, No, I 251 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: would say it's it's been about a five, increasing by 252 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: the day. Um. Over the last week, we've definitely seen 253 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: more daylight activity from younger bucks and them getting antsy 254 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: and ramped up um to start running. UM. I don't 255 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: think we're quite at peak activity yet, as the mature 256 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: buck still are kind of lurking in the night, um, 257 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: waiting for the time to get right. But with each 258 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: day we're getting closer to prime time. You just killed 259 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: the good buck there in New York with your bow. 260 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: Tell us about that set up and about that hunt. Yeah. 261 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: So the piece I'm hunting is about a forty acre 262 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: slice and it runs up a mountain side. UM. I'm 263 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: kind of towards the bottom of the mountain side because 264 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: of the access to the piece. Um. But basically my 265 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: stand location is set up um in the open hardwoods, 266 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: kind of between the thick bedding and food source. It's 267 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: on the other side of some railroad tracks, um and 268 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: trying to play the play the deer coming coming to 269 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: this food source. Uh. The way the hunt played out, 270 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: A dough came down off the mountain side, and uh, 271 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: nice New York bunck was right on her, pushing her, 272 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: and everything happened pretty fast. So I had a twenty 273 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: five yard poring away shot as he passed by me, 274 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: and uh put one in the in the good zone. 275 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: You said there's still a lot of standing crops in 276 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: New York. Are acorns steel factoring in your decision making 277 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: this time of year? Then? Uh, for certain pieces, this 278 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: one not so much, just because of how much crops 279 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: are on the bottom of the mountain. Um. The farmer 280 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: hasn't been in the cut any of the standing corn 281 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: or the beans that are down there yet. So I 282 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: haven't played as much a role in New York with 283 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: the acorns, but definitely in some of my other areas 284 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: acorns are playing a big factor. Are you seeing much 285 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: for signmaking in New York? And how does that factory 286 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: in due decisions sign making? The scrapes are definitely heating up. 287 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: A lot of bucks are checking those. I'm still seeing 288 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: mature bucks coming in during the night. Um, so they're 289 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: not daylight active yet, but yeah, with being late October, 290 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: it's it's prime time to focus on scrapes and pay 291 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: It's more attention to the sign. Do you and the 292 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: guys from flat Land? White Tail has used many really 293 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: aggressive tactics this time of year, like calling or blind 294 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: calling or decoying between your haunts and New York and Pennsylvania. Uh. 295 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: I would definitely say we're pretty big once it gets 296 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: to this time of year. On calling, UM, Nick's been 297 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: using calling this week, UM to try and get one 298 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: of those territorial mature books that I think something's going 299 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: on in his neck of the woods to show his face. Um. 300 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: We've had a couple of encounters this week with some 301 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: some nice dear and we just haven't had a chance 302 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: to close the deal. But with each day it's getting 303 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: closer to prime time, so more encounters should be coming 304 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: going forward. Then, in the six week or so, what 305 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: do you think that Bucket TV is going to be 306 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to tend in New York. 307 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: I think we're headed towards UH eight and the nine. UM. 308 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm thinking that next week, probably around November four through 309 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: the eight, it's going to be about prime time up 310 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: here in northeastern part of the United States. Our done, 311 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: Congrats on the autome do you. Good luck to you 312 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: and everyone else for flat and white tails, and thanks 313 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: for joining me. Yep, no problem, thanks guys all right 314 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: Enjoining us on the line now is Matt Peterson from 315 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: MDL Outfitters in Iowa. Now, Matt in Iowa, what would 316 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: you say the bucket activities been lately on a scale 317 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: of one to ten, bluck activity has been in an 318 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: average four and a half out of ten. So what 319 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: we've seen is your your stereotypical pre rod activity. However, 320 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: it's being influenced with our rather unique systems systematic Southern 321 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: Iowa agricultural system going on where we have a lot 322 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: of crops that are still standing in a lot of 323 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: our great areas UM. And so those areas are obviously, 324 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: you know, hiding a lot of visual sightings that we 325 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: normally would be seeing. UM. However, with the standing corn here, 326 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: love to flock to it. UM. It's colder town. The 327 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: deer coming out heading towards beans, de feed and hitting 328 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: on greens this time of year. It's everybody talks about palatability. Um. 329 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: All of our green plots are getting hit rather consistently. 330 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: But with the snow that came in here over the 331 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: last twenty four hours, in the future snow coming in 332 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: those cold attempts, we are looking at a lot of 333 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: being activity, which is somewhat unusual for this part of October. 334 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: So if normally we'll be looking at about you know, 335 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: five and a half to seven out of ten as 336 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: far as blocked activity right now, um, especially the last 337 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: year las year would have been about seven or eight, 338 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: and uh this year with this, with the crops and 339 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: other factors as well, eh D numbers possibly being lower 340 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: in certain areas, it's just it's just not as good 341 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: as what it could be. So walk me through one 342 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: of your ideal setups would look like this time of 343 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: year when the crops are in versus when the crops 344 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: are out. So were the crops are in, we play 345 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: the trail camera game because there's so much that we 346 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: can't see, you know, with the field obolusly being full 347 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: of corn um, we have to assume there's deer in it. 348 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: We like to hunt the timber edges um. You know, 349 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: travel out on a pinch, maybe a creek system um. 350 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: Pretty much you know where there is a normal timbered 351 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: or CRP betting area. We like to get between that 352 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: and the corn where we are seeing heavy deer traffic. UM. 353 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: If that's withstanding beans, obviously that does not have any 354 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: cover influence whatsoever. Um So, therefore we can rely a 355 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: little bit more on those trails, those funnels, those pinch points. 356 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: Said this time of year, catch some big deer coming 357 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: to check for dose out the food source in the evening. 358 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: Um so, and I should say that it's all evening 359 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: sets right now, and there's no there's no one benefits 360 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: for us to get into the sand in the morning, 361 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: um especially one of our better stands. We save those 362 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: for the upcoming week. Um. Now invert now versus the 363 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: crops are out. Now, there's a lot of food on 364 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: the ground. There's a lot of stubble left over from 365 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: the harvest. Um, whether they be corner beans. Every neighborhood 366 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: is different, every farm is different with different variety of 367 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: of seed. So we have sometimes we have round up 368 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: ready beans. Sometimes we have the post liberty variety where 369 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: deer have they do have a taste for different different 370 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: types of corn and beans. We've see deer absolutely avoid corn, 371 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: corn and beans that you know, they just don't like 372 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: taste off and they'll go right next door to you 373 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: know what looks to us as it seem seem kind 374 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: of soybean. But they're all over there um for no 375 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: other reason than taste. UM. So we with the crops out, 376 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: we have to rely a lot more so on our 377 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: trail cameras and our visual scouting UM to figure out 378 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: a set up. So setups don't necessarily change because we 379 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: kind of have a wide variety of setups UM, but 380 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: the approach is a little bit different. And how we're 381 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: finding with deer and choosing which of the setups to 382 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: go to. What are you seeing for signmaking right now? 383 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: And how does that influence your decisions and making a 384 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: set up right now? Over the last I'll go back 385 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: in the last ten days, UM. Scrape activity um as 386 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: well as rubs are picking up on all of my 387 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: farms in the last you know, five to seven days. UM. 388 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: Going about ten days back, we were looking at a 389 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: one seemed like slow activity. They were just weren't scrapes 390 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: firing like normal, even though we had the good weather. UM, 391 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: we were just seemed a little bit behind the schedule. UM. 392 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: But here in the last week, scrapes have fired up 393 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: like crazy. Rubs are picking up all over the place. 394 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: And that's we're going from the small little field that 395 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: drugs that are just periodic um all the way up 396 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: to your you know, your big community rubs that are 397 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: deep in noptember, which I tried to avoid looking at, 398 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: even though they're pretty cool cool, they're pretty cool to find. UM. 399 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: You don't need to invade on any better areas this 400 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: time of year. But the sign is all picked up. 401 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: And that's that's not just talking about trails and scrapes 402 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: and rubs. It's all talking about trail can't activity. UM. 403 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: A lot of the activity that I'm seeing on camera 404 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: is still nocturnal, especially with our mature deer. UM. I've 405 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: only had two or three mature bucks actually out in daylight. UM. 406 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: I run cameras pretty much where we're hunting, right. I 407 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: have no benefit to run a camera in the betting area. 408 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: I'll never go back there um to hunt, order to scout, 409 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: but we we want to know when the deer are 410 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: there where we're hunting, so we're checking that. And the 411 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: activity is just picking up. And now I can see 412 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: the light at the end of the tunnel and that 413 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: with that light being the run it is, it is 414 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: coming going forward. Then in the six week or so, 415 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: what do you think that buck activity is going to 416 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to tend in Iowa, 417 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: I would expect here over the next week it would 418 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: jump up to possibly seven or eight out of ten. 419 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: Given the weather stays good, crops continue to get harvested 420 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: occasionally here and there. Um. The only reason that would 421 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: stay lower is if the you're staying into the crops 422 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: and those standing cords and remain hidden. All right, Matt, Well, 423 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: good luck to you and your clients at MTL Outfitters. 424 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me, all right, Thanks, Man's have a 425 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: good one alright. Enjoining us on the line. Next is 426 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: Parker McDonald from Southern Ground Hunting in Alabama. Now, Parker 427 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: in Alabama, what would you say the buck activities ben 428 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: lately on a scale of one to ten, Yeah, I 429 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: would say probably right now, it's gonna be about a 430 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: about a five. Um where I'm at and in a 431 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: lot of the state I haven't haven't seen just an 432 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: overwhelming amount of um, big mature bucks being killed. There 433 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: have been a few, but just in my experience so far, 434 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: up scene, quite a few young bucks out on the 435 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: feet and feeding on achins and stuff. Um. And then 436 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: of course I had a I had a good encounter 437 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: with a buck I killed last week, a mature buck 438 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: on Alabama public plan And a lot of it was 439 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: because I was I got right in between his his 440 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: food and bedding. But he was definitely on his feet 441 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: in daylight hours. And so I would say five because 442 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: it's not you know, it's not the absolute worst, but um, 443 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: I think it's only going to go up from here. 444 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: Like other Southern states, Alabama has a variety of stages 445 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: of the rut going on at all times in the fall. 446 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: Can you walk us through what different do your groups 447 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: and what different phases that route we currently have in Alabama. Yeah, 448 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: So in Alabama on a lot of a lot of 449 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: pieces pretty close to where I hunt, do you have 450 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: a strain of deer that was brought in from Michigan 451 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: years ago, and so your experience with those, dear, you'll 452 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: experience a rut that is typical to probably the rest 453 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: of the United States, really that early November UM type rut. 454 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: And so you could be out in the woods, you 455 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: know right now, NBC and some UM good pre run activity, 456 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: and probably in the next week or so, you might 457 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, you might see bucks chasing does like crazy. Um. 458 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: But then in that same block of timber, you could 459 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: have a buck that's not even close to being in 460 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: the rut at all. He's still up a couple of 461 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: months to a month away from even being close to 462 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: starting the pre rut. UM. So it really is all 463 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: over the place, UM, where I hunt, And then you 464 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: can go put some parts of the state, UM, Southern Alabama. 465 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: There's a lot of parts of the state out there 466 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: where they won't even run until February. UM. And then 467 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: some parts of northern Alabama they're not gonna you're gonna 468 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: have RUD activity in in February. So it really is 469 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: truly just dependent on where you're at. UM. I would say, 470 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: for where I'm at the majority of the time, UM, 471 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: right now, you're still going to experience a lot of 472 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: that bet the food pattern. UM, you're not gonna see 473 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: a ton of rud activity. Of course unless you see 474 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: those UM you get haven't encounter with one of those 475 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: Michigan strained deer. UM. But like the buck I killed 476 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: the other day, he wasn't he wasn't even anywhere close 477 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: to it. So, um Man, this cold front though that 478 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: is about to hit. I think it's hitting a lot 479 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: of the United States. I know it's hitting a lot 480 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: of the South. And in the next in the next 481 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, man, it's gonna be um probably the 482 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: cold front that really gets the deer on the scene. 483 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: I think I think you're probably gonna start seeing a 484 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: little bit more movement and that number, you know, it 485 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: could it could go up drastically here this this upcoming 486 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: weekend for sure. So how do you balance your aggressiveness 487 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: in an area like that where you have so many 488 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: different phases of the ruck going on at once. For 489 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: my style, UM, you know, I'm using I'm using a 490 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: lot of water access pretty much. Um all the time 491 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: is what I use. And UM, I kind of stay aggressive, 492 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: you know. It's just really depends for me, Like during 493 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: the rut that early early December is the rut that 494 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: I really try to key on, key in on in 495 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: my area. And I'm gonna be as aggressive as I 496 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: can be. I'm gonna go into um a lot of 497 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: the areas where I know is is good dough betting, 498 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: and I'm going to get really, really close to that. 499 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: And that's all that's since I started doing this, That's 500 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: been the most um beneficial thing I've done, is that 501 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: right there in the middle of that, and I'll get 502 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: as close to those dough betting areas that I possibly can. 503 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: Now what I'm trying to do is, um, I'm not 504 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: getting I'm not proud of betting too much of these bucks. UM. 505 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: I am trying to get in between the beds and 506 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: the food and UM, A lot of the bed A 507 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: lot of the betting, I know, is there some of 508 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: the betting I don't know is there. I use this 509 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: time of year when um, you know, the majority of 510 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: the area that I'm hunting isn't so much, isn't so 511 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: close to the rut Um. I'm going to use a 512 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: lot of this time to go in really aggressive to 513 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: areas that I've never been into before. So just I 514 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: use a lot of it for going and blind into 515 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: brand new areas. You just killed that buck doing water access. 516 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: Is that a tactic that you'll use year round? Is 517 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: that something that you think it can be applied to 518 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: all of the others days? Yeah, So, you know, since 519 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: I started doing this, I would say my encounters and 520 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: deer have gone up drastically, like it's not even it's 521 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: not even close really to what I was experiencing before. 522 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: And uh, and a lot of that is because I'm 523 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: going into areas where I mean, the majority of the time, 524 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: there's nobody in there. I don't think I've ever run 525 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: into a single person, um, you know, and especially here 526 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: in Alabama, I haven't run into a whole lot of 527 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: people that are doing the same thing. And uh, if 528 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: I do run into anybody, it's usually because they're coming 529 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: off of private land and they've been hunting that same 530 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: piece of public land their whole life, you know, because 531 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: it's close to their property or whatever. Um. But you know, 532 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: I have a whole lot of encounters with deer. I 533 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: get to, um see a lot more dear on these 534 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: these pieces of property than a lot of people in 535 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: the South. UM. And I think that's just getting back 536 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: far into those places where people aren't going into very often. 537 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: What food sources are you focused on this time of 538 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: year in Alabama? So right now, um, obviously the aprons 539 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: are falling like crazy, and we've had a really good 540 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: year here everywhere I've been, um here in Alabama and Tennessee, um. 541 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: Even in Kentucky I hunted there and everywhere I've been 542 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: it seems like there's a really solid agin crop and 543 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: so that that that really makes it difficult to um 544 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: find where the deer are actually hitting because they got 545 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: aprons all over the place. UM. One of the things 546 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: I really try to key in on is um going 547 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: into a place that has those white oats UM that's 548 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: dropping a lot of aprons, but also has a lot 549 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: of the native brows that is um that that deer 550 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: really tend to like. So that with this buck that 551 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: I killed last week, I really keyed in on a 552 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: transition area that had a pine ticket and then they 553 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: had a UM a couple of year old clear cut 554 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: and those were on the private land, and then on 555 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: the public land there was there was a lot of 556 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: acrons falling, and so I figured in that clear cut, UM, 557 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a ton of brows out here. Those 558 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: are basically just like a big thick food plot that 559 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: are just it's just covered with all types of food 560 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: for deer. And so if you can be close to 561 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: one of those and a lot of times that ticket 562 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: for this time of the season going forward. Then in 563 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: the sext week or so, what do you think that 564 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: Bucket TV is going to be on a scale of 565 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: one to ten in Alabama? And I think this cold 566 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: front that's pushing through here, um this weekend is going 567 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: to be uh. I really think it's gonna get deer 568 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: on their feet. Um, that's one thing I've noticed. The 569 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: most deer activity I've seen that this point has been 570 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: in those those little cold fronts that come through. You know, 571 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: that drops the tent down to forty or so degrees 572 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: and the deer activity gets really high. And so this 573 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: weekend um is supposed to get down into the thirties. 574 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: And I think you're gonna see a lot more people 575 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: down here in the South, um posting on on social media, 576 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna see a whole lot more big bucks being killed. 577 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say it's probably gonna go up to 578 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: maybe even a seven or an eight. All Right, Parker Will, 579 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: congrats on that awesome Alabama public land buck. Thanks for 580 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: joining me. Thanks Spencer alright in joining us on the line. 581 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: Next is David g Rizzo from teen Tagg and Brigg 582 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: in Ohio. Now, David in Ohio, what would you say 583 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: the buck activity is been lately on a scale of 584 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: one to ten, I think the buck activity has been 585 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: about a six. And the reason I say that we're 586 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of small box cruising daylight hours and 587 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: seeing some new box pop up on our trail cameras, 588 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: but the mature buck activity, at least where we're at, 589 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: we have not seen you know, daylight active yet. It's 590 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: been close, um, but we haven't seen a ton of 591 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: mature buck activity yet. Although they are working scrapes at night, 592 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: it seems like they're branching out throughout the last couple 593 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: of months on our trail cameras box that we've never 594 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: seen before or um and and the younger deer are 595 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: moving in daylight. It just doesn't seem like that mature 596 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: buck activity has you know, really gone out into like 597 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: an all out seeking phase where they're moving you know, 598 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: a lot during the daylight hours these last few days 599 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: of October. Do acorns still factor into your decision making 600 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: when you're making a set up? Yeah, I I I 601 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: was actually set up tonight on an acorn flat and 602 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: I had three does come in and they were literally 603 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: nose to the ground feeding the whole time. I mean 604 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: I was, I was actually pretty surprised that there wasn't 605 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: a buck with them or at least coming into check. Um. 606 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: So you know, I think the acorns definitely still play 607 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: a factor, you know, at least case in point tonight 608 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: where the does were feeding. I mean, I really wouldn't 609 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: have wanted to be anywhere else it just the buck 610 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: wasn't in the area tonight. What are you doing this 611 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: time of year when you find some fresh signmaking and 612 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: at what point do you kind of start to ignore 613 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: that and move off the rubs and scrapes. I think 614 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: right now, at least for us in Ohio, is just 615 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: is peak time where they are just hammering the scrapes. 616 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: I mean, yesterday I said, I I watched three bucks, 617 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: three different bucks, clear the same scrape. One buck in particular, 618 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: cleared it, went back and cleared it three different times, 619 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: and they were all kind of chasing each other around, 620 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: just trying to figure each other out. So I think 621 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: the scrape activity right now is is peaking, and especially 622 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: over the next couple of days. I mean that's where 623 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: really we're gonna be honing in a lot of our 624 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: time and energy is hunting, you know, on scrapes or 625 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: at least somewhere close you know paths leading up to scrapes, 626 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: because I really believe that these mature bucks are gonna 627 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: get on their feet. We got a cold front coming 628 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: in end of the week, and I think that's gonna 629 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: spur some activity and we're gonna get some good action, 630 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: especially scrape action. You know, by the time the week's 631 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: over with, When you're hunting scrapes, do you have a 632 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: preference for morning versus evening. I'm hunting them any time 633 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: of day. I prefer the morning time. And you know, 634 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: so we literally just started and hunting mornings pretty hard 635 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: over the last couple of days. UM. And it's and 636 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: it's paid off for us, and I'll be in the 637 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: woods again tomorrow morning. To UM. It seems like a 638 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: lot of the buck activity that we're observing on trail 639 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: cameras that we you know, that we're not seeing when 640 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: we're sitting is starting to switch, you know, to that 641 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: morning movement. I mean case in point, this morning, a 642 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: new buck popped up on one of our trail cameras, 643 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: one of our cell cameras that we've never seen before 644 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: at ten thirty UM. So, you know, extending those sits, 645 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: I think a little bit farther in the end of 646 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: the end of the late morning. I think is uh 647 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: is absolutely necessary because you just never know when when 648 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: he could take a walk. It sounds like most of 649 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: your cameras are facing scrapes right now. How does that 650 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: change when we get into the road. Do they stay there? 651 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 1: Do you move them to someplace else? No? We typically 652 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: keep them, you know, we just try to keep them 653 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: on any active scrapes. Honestly, once once like the peak 654 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: chasing comes around, not that the trail cameras are irrelevant, 655 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: but it's just time to just go log a lot 656 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: of hours into the woods and you just I mean, 657 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: the deer become kind of unpatternable at that point, at 658 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 1: least in my opinion. So we which we tend to 659 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: keep the keep the cameras on the scrapes that are 660 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: active because you just never know what new bucks are 661 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: gonna move into the area. Um and especially if there's 662 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: a hot doing there, if he's hitting that scrape, you know, 663 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: a couple of times, you never know, you could you 664 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: could have a day or two day window to get 665 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 1: in there, you know, and try and kill them. So 666 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: we keep the keep our cameras on scrapes, let them 667 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: kind of take that inventory for us when we're not 668 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: sitting directly on you know, on those main scrapes anymore, 669 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: and we just get in the woods, getting you know, 670 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: getting a timber somewhere and try and log as many 671 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: hours as we can if we can catch up to 672 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: something going forward. Then in the sex week or so, 673 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: what do you think that bucke activity is going to 674 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Ohio? 675 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: I I really think it's gonna be you know, an 676 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: eight to and eight and a half. I think, Um, 677 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: like I said, the end of this week, we got 678 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: a cold front coming in. It's been sixty degrees all week. 679 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: It'll be like that through Thursday, and then highs on 680 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: Friday go down to forty with lows in the thirties 681 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: and that continues for the next probably four to five days, 682 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: I believe. So I really think end of this week, 683 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: early next week, you know, this movement is gonna be 684 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: eight eight to an eight to and eight and a half. 685 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: The mature bucks are gonna be on their feet, and 686 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to being in the woods. I 687 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: think this is gonna be, you know, one of the 688 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,959 Speaker 1: best week just that we have throughout this year. All right, David, 689 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: good luck to you and your brother team tagging Bragg. 690 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. Appreciate it, Spencer, And that concludes 691 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: this week's episode of rut Fresh Radio. Makes It Darton, 692 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: Matt Parker, and David for joining me, Thank you guys 693 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,919 Speaker 1: for listening. Good Luck to everyone who has a rut 694 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: cation planning up here. I hope you're season goats just 695 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: like you imagine, and I'll be on a rut cation 696 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: in my own So the next time I talk to you, guys, 697 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: oh be coming off of a lot of days of 698 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: tree stand time and I hope it's the same thing 699 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: for you. Until next week, stay wired to Hunt.