1 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 3 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 4 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 5 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And it is an absolutely beautiful Thursday 6 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: in the metro planks, and it's a beautiful day for 7 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: mix shots as we are putting Baltimore behind us, Bill 8 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: Jones along with Mickey Spagnola and Everson Walls. Yes, it's 9 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: time we gotta move on, don't we What do you 10 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: think we need to move on? No, I'm still in 11 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: that mood. Time for since I'm still in that mood. Yeah, 12 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You know what, Let's let's ask Bill Belichick 13 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: what we should do. What do you say? Yes, do 14 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: you want to ask Bill Belichick? Let me see. It 15 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: would help if myke it would help, if my audio work. 16 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: But it does it? So it didn't work. It didn't work. 17 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: Why does my computer mute at the most inappropriate time? 18 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. We're gonna try it again. Here, 19 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna try it again. And here you go, it's 20 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: still muting. Unbelievable. Okay, you know what I run this 21 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: thing about as well as the stop the run of 22 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: the other team. Oh no, right, you got muted there, 23 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: I got yeah, I got muted. All right, Bill, I'll 24 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: by the other show. I'm gonna figure it out. I'm 25 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: gonna pull out what he was trying to say. Yes, 26 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: we're on to Cincinnati. Okay, We're on to Cincinnati. Right. 27 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: I was gonna try and pull you out of the 28 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: hole there, Okay, we're on the Cincinnati because you know so, 29 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: I had some stuff ready, but I'm gonna leave it alone. 30 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: I was gonna tell you Bill that yesterday, December ninth, 31 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: so twenty nine years ago was the last edition to 32 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: the Dallas Times Herald, And for some reason it hit 33 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: me yesterday and I went upstairs and grabbed the old 34 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: copy that I kept from the last edition, and I 35 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: read it cover to cover right the news, the metro, business, 36 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: the sports, and I just want you to know that 37 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: your name is in the last edition of the Dallas 38 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: Times Herald. In a column by I think it was 39 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: Skip Bayless mentioned that he got interviewed by Bill Jones. Really, yes, 40 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: so your name. I'm not sure if I want people 41 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: to know that. Yes, in fact, he would be a 42 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: regular guest on when I would fill in for Scott 43 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: Murray on Sports Extra on when I worked at Channel five. Right, yeah, right. 44 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: And the reason you'll have to send me a copy 45 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: of that, the reason it's in there, it was because 46 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: the last day that we worked was December eighth, and 47 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: it was a Cowboys Saints game at Texas Stadium, and 48 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: all the media showed up, you remember that, and we 49 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: were all getting interviewed as we were trying to watch 50 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: the game and contemplate the rest of our lives, knowing 51 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: that this was our last day of work, not knowing 52 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: what the future would hold. But yeah, I they listened, 53 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: you know. And the other thing I didn't realize there 54 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: was nine hundred people when you include everybody that was 55 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: connected to the paper, the delivery people, you know, press 56 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: and all the press room and all that stuff, there 57 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: was nine hundred people that lost jobs. And they listed 58 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: everybody's name that was on the payroll on two pages 59 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: inside the first section of the paper. Yeah, I've forgotten 60 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,239 Speaker 1: that part, and I don't know if I ever looked 61 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: at it, but it was interesting to read the sports section. 62 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what it might be twenty nine 63 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: years later, but I'll put that sports section up against 64 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: anybody that they're doing today. It was still pretty comprehensive 65 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: and it was pretty darn good reading too, And it 66 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: was a testament to competition. Yeah, I mean at the 67 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: times here on in the morning news going up against 68 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: each other. I mean that's that created great products on 69 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: both sides of it. And then the fort Worth Pager, 70 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: I'll tell you where we created. It created a bunch 71 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: of sacrificial lambs. That's where they created. You had players 72 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: like myself trying to stay out of trouble. You know, 73 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: you had players like Dennis Thurman were hiding from reporters 74 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: like Gary Myers of course with the news. But then 75 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: who was a gym did? Was it? Uh? It was 76 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: a beat writer for at that time it was myself. 77 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: But before when you first got there, it was Jim 78 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: Dead before. Yeah, yeah, Jim did high. He's he's lurking 79 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: around uh locker rooms and lockers trying to dip in 80 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: on a conversation if you and the fellow defensive back 81 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: or having a beef about the organization. You can bet 82 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: the old uh fort Worth Star was right there sneaking 83 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: around with a recorder, trying to trying to dip in 84 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: on our conversation. So yeah, a lot of good people there, 85 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: but it was a few of them that that competition 86 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: created a lot of a lot of negativity around that 87 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: locker room. And and that was good for selling papers, 88 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: but it was for the for the program itself, for 89 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: the Cowboys program. Did we even have recorders back day? Yeah, 90 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: one of those. You had one of the most CIA 91 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: records is back in the day. Man, that's what's real. 92 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: You have real to real, that's what you have neck 93 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: in day. But anyway, you know, but not only that, 94 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: go ahead, I was gonna say not only that is uh. 95 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: I can say this from the TV side of things, 96 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: the competition was so much greater as far as the 97 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: TV stations are concerned, because the TV stations gave the 98 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: sports more time. I mean we literally here's the difference 99 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: between nineteen ninety and thirty years later here in twenty 100 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: twenty as far as how much time we get for 101 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: our sports cast on the local news. Okay, back in 102 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety, each station at they would at five o'clock 103 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: you'd get a three minute sportscast and then you'd go 104 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: four minutes at six o'clock and four and a half 105 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: minutes at ten o'clock. That was a standard you go 106 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: from today all the stations we get two minutes at 107 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: six and two minutes and thirty seconds at ten o'clock. 108 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: And that's basically it and um. But but the other 109 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: part of that is uh, and this is where the 110 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: fans really That's what Everson says. Sometimes it could be 111 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: a detriment for the players. But the access that the 112 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: media had back then, there was no comparison with what 113 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: it is today, even in a non COVID year, especially 114 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: in a COVID year, I mean there was there's basically 115 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: no access at all. But uh, back then, I mean 116 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: we had the run of the locker room when yes, 117 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: you did exactly you did, and there was there was 118 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: some time did that you even are relishing in that fact, 119 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: you had the run of my locker room. That back 120 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: not cool at all. I don't know what kind of 121 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: tact that Spagnola had back in the day. But when 122 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: you gotta dodge Myers and Dint and skilled Bayliss every day, 123 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: and they're looking to take down Tom Landry, they're looking 124 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: to take down tech Schram. They got a beef with 125 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: gil Brant, and then they'll come to me and say, hey, Everson, 126 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: what do you think about gil Brant? Hey man, I'm 127 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm in the negotiation right now. Can you get out 128 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: of my face with that, please? Some man? No, No, 129 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, I did. I did, I do, Everson, I 130 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: upgraded the ethics when I got there. Okay, thank god, 131 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: thank god, thank god. But you remember, we had we 132 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: had a little small cubicle office in the at the ranch, 133 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: right there by the entrance where the where the players 134 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: came in, so that mine said it was the first 135 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: one by the door. So when the door was opened 136 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: and you guys were leaving, if somebody was leaving on 137 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: crutches and they didn't announce the injury, it's like, oh, 138 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: somebody's hurt. That's exactly right, you know. If you know 139 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: what we would do as a TV station on the 140 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: morning after a game, if let's say Troy Aikman had 141 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: not a major injury, but let's say he had something 142 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: something happened to him on Sunday, we would have a 143 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: crew that would be at Valley Ranch before eight o'clock 144 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: in the morning to get Troy walking from his car 145 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: in the parking lot. We would be there with our camera, 146 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: with our camera as he got out of his car 147 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: and limped into the locker room. We would follow him 148 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: all the way into the locker room and sold by 149 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: eight eight o'clock in the morning. The day after, we 150 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: would have some sort of update on the condition of 151 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman. Um, Hey, you had, you had. Some of 152 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: the biggest stories were written when everyone was gone home, 153 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: and then there was always someone trying to lag behind 154 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: because they were part of a huge story, and you 155 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: guys would be waiting outside to pounce on them right 156 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: right away. You know. That was especially doing the strike season. 157 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was horrible. Nineteen eighty seven, bad man. 158 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: I'll give you, I'll give you. I'll give you one 159 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: more story on the parking lot. And it was the 160 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: last time I ever did this. You know, when the 161 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: guys used to walk out and they didn't do their 162 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: interviews and everybody'd run after them. Well, when the Herschel 163 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: Walker trade was announced and Herschel tried going out the 164 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: back doors, he tried going out the door in the 165 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: equipment room. Remember, you can get onto them, that's right, 166 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: that's right. You have immediate access to your car from 167 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: the equipting. Somebody yells, oh Herschel's going to his car, 168 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: and everybody goes running out right TV cameras. They're trampling everybody. 169 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: I started running and I go, what am I doing. 170 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm kind of a gross person and I'm running to them. 171 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: And I said, that's it. I will never run to 172 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: the person lot after anybody ever again. Oh my god, 173 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: all the other idiots. Yeah, and this was this was 174 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: pretty funny. We you know how they used to do 175 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: grades right after the game, which you know, we were 176 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: forced to do it, and they were always wrong. And 177 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: that was the only thing the players read were grades. Right, 178 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: you give them an a God forbid if you gave 179 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: them a D or something, you know. So that section 180 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: of the team. So I came up with the idea, 181 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: we're not doing grades. We're gonna do thumbs up, thumbs 182 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: down and in the middle right, So and so at 183 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: the end of that we we we had two more categories, 184 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: and this was after the Saints game, and one of 185 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: them was for something I can't remember what it was. 186 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: It was for doing something good, and the last one 187 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: was bad day at the office. Right, and so I 188 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: finished bad day at the office with entire dime times 189 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: Harold Stay, that's the girl. That's that is what you 190 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: call a bad day at the office. It absolutely How 191 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: did you how did you find out that it was folding? Um? 192 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: I it was a noon it was a noon start, 193 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: and I would get there you know too. Two. This 194 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: is on a Sunday morning, Sunday morning, noon, uh, December eighth, 195 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting at my spot in the press box 196 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: and the phone rings and uh, I think it was 197 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: Dave Pelletier, the assistant pr director, picks up the phone 198 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: and he goes, Uh, Mickey, your sports editor wants to 199 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: talk to you. And I'm going I'm gonna talk to 200 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: me at nine thirty ten o'clock in the morning. You know, 201 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: there's nothing going on. So I go there and it 202 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: was Gary Hardy. Uh and uh, he says, Mick, I 203 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: got bad news for you. He goes, uh, the paper 204 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: has just been sold to the Dallas Morning News and 205 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: this is going to be our last edition. We're going 206 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: out of business. And I'm going seriously he goes, yeah, 207 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: he goes, I hate to have to tell you this, 208 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: and he goes, can you do me a favor? He goes, 209 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: when the other people on the staff come in, can 210 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: you let them know that this is the news. Oh 211 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: my god, I'm going me, I go, you mean to 212 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: tell me? I gotta go up to Frank Luxo, who's 213 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: been doing this job since nineteen seventy two. And I 214 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: got to tell him he's out of work. And so 215 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: I basically stood out in the hallway and um, people 216 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: start coming in. Wow, and Skip saw me standing out 217 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: there when he came in, and it was like, what 218 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: are you doing out here? And I said, okay, let 219 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: me break the news to you. Uh. And same thing 220 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: with Frank. I had to tell him, yeah, this is 221 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: your last day of work. And so our joke that 222 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: day basically was well, if you need another good clip 223 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: to get get a job, you better make this one good, 224 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: a good one. Uh. And And I remember I remember 225 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: go ahead Everson, No, No, you go ahead, say. I 226 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: remember I remember kind of watching the game like I'm 227 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: watching but I wasn't seeing, and it was just like 228 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: the whole thing was just a I don't know, it 229 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: was a cloud that whole day trying to cover the game. Yeah, 230 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: like a blurer, right. And I remember and I go 231 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: back and read my my, my game story. And it's like, 232 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, those first four paragraphs were really good that 233 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: it just fell off. It just was like it wasn't me. 234 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: You know, you you you know what it's like to 235 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: get cut. You know. Funny you say that because we 236 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: hung around in the locker room afterwards, uh to say 237 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: something to Jimmy. We didn't know if he knew it 238 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: or not. And we're, you know, we didn't know if 239 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: we'd ever see him again or what our jobs would be. 240 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: And so there was like three or four of us, Me, Frank, 241 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: Susie Woodhams. I think there was one of their person 242 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: with us. And he comes out and he looks at 243 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: us and he had heard right, and he all he 244 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: did was kind of you know how he used to 245 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: smack his lips and he goes, well, whatever he goes. 246 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: Now you know how coaches feel, So Jimmy, it's, oh, wait, 247 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: how coaches feel when this guy cut somebody every day? 248 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: And now he talks about how coaches feel. Give me 249 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: a break, could be a break, how coaches feel he 250 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: cut somebody every month and he's talking about that. Come on, 251 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: only Jimmy could turn that around to where he if 252 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: teachable moment right for him to show to you give 253 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: me a break. Yeah, that was. That was, and you 254 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: know he was he was trying. I think he was 255 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: trying to kind of lighten the situation. But yeah, that was. 256 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: That was his deal. And the other thing I remembers, 257 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: so if you remember, so this was nineteen ninety one. Uh, 258 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: And I'd forgotten this until I read it again, that 259 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: when Tech Shramp, when they bought the team and then 260 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: Tex left. It was about May of eighty nine. He 261 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: took the job with the uh what did they call it, 262 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: the European Football League was the World League of American Footballball. Yeah, 263 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: he took that job and his suite was right next 264 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: to the press box. And you know, Tex used to 265 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: sit in the press box for the games, but once 266 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: that happened, he just stayed in his suite. We go 267 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: in there and say hi to him, but he never 268 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: came back in the press box until that day he 269 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: came back to kind of give us each a handshake 270 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: and a hug and say hey, sorry to hear it happened. 271 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: But that was the first and only time he came 272 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: back in the press box after he parted ways with 273 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Yeah, so anyway, twenty nine years ago, Well, Mickey, 274 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: I twenty nine years ago. I would say things turned 275 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: turned around very nicely for you years. I think I 276 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: survived somehouse way. But that day, boy, no, no, it 277 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: was it was that it was that company man mentality 278 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: that he took. See when they when he when they 279 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: had him firing everybody else, you know, that that solidifier 280 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: for him, this oh, this guy will do anything to 281 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: keep a job. So they that's why that was a 282 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: test for you, spat. They wanted to They wanted to 283 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: make sure that you were willing to do anything to 284 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: sell your brothers down the river. And you did a 285 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: good job. Man, that's pretty good man. So they long 286 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: have you been a cowboy? Bill Bill, they'll have the 287 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: crankiest guy in the world telling everybody that they're fired. 288 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: That's right. You know, you're supposed to give it to 289 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: him in a soft manner. But here's fat hey guy, 290 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: you're out? Yeah me too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, go cry 291 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: me a river. Yeah, I've been there been that power. Yeah, 292 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: I see you later. I don't think it happened that 293 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: and ever since, ever since. It was in December also, 294 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: so you know management at the times Zerold it was 295 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: in December. They said, who would be the best guy 296 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: to tell every all of our employees that they won't 297 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: have a Christmas this year? This is Scrooge Christmas. Yeah, 298 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: it stole a lot of things. Oh man, what the 299 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: spots bags? What spot? Unbelievable? And so how long before 300 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: you started working for the Cowboys? Oh? It was another 301 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: nine years I freelanced, remember, Oh yeah, Well, because you 302 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: were with freelancing and you were what was the inside? 303 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: What was the skip? Baylor's the inside, the Insider? That's right, right, 304 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: did the Insider? And then talk radio started and I 305 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: started working at the Ticket, and the Cowboys got good, 306 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: and there was all the freelance I could handle from 307 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: all around the country, people wanting stories on the cowboys, 308 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: and you know that kind of saved me that they 309 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: got good when there was work to do. Yeah, when 310 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: when did you When did you realize, I want to know, 311 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: when you realize that, hey, this might not be a 312 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: bad thing. When did you realize that to change and 313 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: communication was coming. It took about six months because that's 314 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: when we started the Insider, uh, And that's when I 315 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: started getting freelance and doing other stuff being you know, 316 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: the correspondent for USA Today and Sporting News and things 317 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: like that. So I picked up a lot of work, uh, 318 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: and I picked up some TV stuff. Uh, And then 319 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: the radio thing happened, and yeah it. I ended up 320 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: doing it till two thousand when I started with the 321 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: Cowboys and on TV. Yes, yes, twenty years see. So 322 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: that was all you have to start grooming yourself like damn, 323 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: my nose hairs out of control? 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We talked about that yesterday. 368 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys next out of Sunday night football to a noon kickoff. 369 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: That's right, That's right, guys. That that that's that's I'm sorry, 370 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: that's still pretty embarrassing. Uh, you know, to go from 371 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: prime time to noon. I mean they could have put 372 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: them at three thirty, right, They just dropped them all 373 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: the way down. Is that punishment? You know? Is that 374 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: just sticking it to the Cowboys because they I'm sure 375 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 1: they have other slots they could have chosen, but they 376 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: put us all the way down to noon. I think, 377 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: well you know that they had those Yeah, yeah, it does. 378 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Obviously. You can move anything around the 379 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: way you want, so there's there's no precedent set here. 380 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: It's like we can do anything we want. Oh you 381 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: were you were scheduling for the evening. No, no, not 382 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. You guys are not going to embarrass this station. 383 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: So that's just you know, the three twenty five window 384 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: is is for TV networks, that's considered a prime window 385 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: that late Sunday afternoon, and so they would be going 386 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: from prime time time Sunday night to almost primetime at 387 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: three twenty five on Sunday. So if you're not gonna 388 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: be and so they will have multiple games at three 389 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: twenty five, but the second game that's not the primetime game. 390 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: You're just going into your own local markets anyway. So 391 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: you actually probably have more people getting the Cowboy game 392 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: even with a three and nine or what will be 393 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: a four and nine Cowboys Steve next week against San Francisco, 394 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: you'll get them to ground. Chuck, come on, exactly what happened? 395 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: That's the right the country's looking at us. Now we 396 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: are ground Chuck. You know what, though, there's hope on 397 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: the horizon. You know, why tell me thirty seven year 398 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: on a Cincinnati. It's nothing about the past, nothing about 399 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: the futures right now with Cincinnati. There you go. We're 400 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: on to Cincinnati. Could you hear that? Finally so sounded 401 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: like Bill Belichick. I know that gravel. I know that 402 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: gravelly voice. I know that gravelly voice. Uh huh, that's right. 403 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: We're onto Cincinnati. And here we are. We're onto Cincinnati. 404 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: And what update do you have from the Star in 405 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: Fresco Mickey Spagnola about the Cowboys and the Bengals. Well, 406 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: the Cowboys basically had a practice today, but it was 407 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: closed to everybody, and Mike McCarthy didn't was not scheduled 408 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: to do his uh media conference call. We're supposed to 409 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: get players, and I think it should have happened maybe 410 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: started a half hour ago. But yeah, I saw some 411 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: quotes from Zeke. Yeah, Zeke was supposed to talk, and 412 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: you know yesterday he was limited. They listed him as 413 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: limited in practice and they didn't practice. It was just 414 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: a projection of what would have happened had they had 415 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: they had they practiced so Anthony Brown and Zeke were 416 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: listed as limited, Cam Irving and Donovan Wilson were listed 417 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: as out, and the Bengals had a whole bunch of 418 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: guys that were not injury lated missing practice guys like 419 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: Geno Atkins, Mike Daniels, AJ Greene, and then they had 420 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: a couple other guys that missed the limited T Higgins 421 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: and Alex Redmond with a concussion. And they said Brandon 422 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: Allen had a full practice. But again it was a 423 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: I think there two was a well the Cowboys was 424 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: a projection. There's wasn't. They actually practiced yesterday and they 425 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: do expect Brandon Allen to play. He did his media 426 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: availability yesterday. Yeah, and he had left. He left her 427 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: last game at a chess contusion, and it was Ryan 428 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: Finley who finished up against the Dolphins last week. And 429 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: it looked like the Cowboys. Brandon Allen is the guy. 430 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: It looked like the Cowboys. We're going to have a 431 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: light practice today. So I don't I'm not sure what 432 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: we'll get on the practice report when it comes out. 433 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't really And I think what he's trying to 434 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: do is keep get their legs underneath them to play 435 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: this next game and not wear them out in practice. 436 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: So no major injuries in the last game that we 437 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: have to worry about anyone missing the game, not that 438 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: we not that we detected after the game, except for Zeke. 439 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: And I'm sure that happened at the game at some point, 440 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: because it seemed like Pollard that second half was starting 441 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: to get a few more snaps, although he finished with 442 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: thirty one and he'd been averaging somewhere between low twenties 443 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: to thirty a game over these last five or six games, 444 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: So I don't know if that was indicative of Zeke 445 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: having problems with that calf or not. But we'll see 446 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: going forward what takes place there. Thought. I thought Zeke 447 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: ran pretty well in the ball game. What was numbers? Yeah, 448 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: I got them somewhere here. I got it. He ended 449 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: up eighteen for seventy seven. He and he ended up 450 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: eighteen carry seventy seven yards and then four catches for eighteen. 451 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: Really ran well on that screen pass that they finally 452 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 1: executed correctly, and and uh and Tony Pollard was at 453 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: seven carries for ten yards until that last play of 454 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: the game where he went for about twelve yards to 455 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: finish eight for twenty two, right, yeah, Pollard. I like 456 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: Pollard's u involvement in the game plan from every aspect. 457 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 1: You know, we talk about what he can do from 458 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, but that kickoff return, you know, 459 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: that's something that I think he can consistently be effective 460 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: at just using him all over the field. You know, 461 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 1: he's got He's become a nice bright spot for this offense. 462 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: A nice I wouldn't say a surprise, but when you 463 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: when you have a season right now full of so 464 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: many disappointments, I would not put him in that category 465 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: of disappointments. I will put him as just one of 466 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: the more positive points, positive points for this game, for 467 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: this team. Actually, yeah, you know what, and as this 468 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: seasons wore on, they've had a couple more. I think 469 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: Neville Gallimore had a nice game once again. Now you 470 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: see what he does right now, there's probably things he 471 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: does wrong, and you know we're not charting those, but 472 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: I think he ended up in four tackles. Yeah, he 473 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: had four tackles in the game, and he just seems 474 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: to be getting more active inside. So that was kind 475 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: of a somewhat of a bright spot for a defense 476 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: that just continues to struggle. You know, I you know, 477 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: they're they're last in the league, giving up three hundred 478 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: and ninety three points in twelve games. That is a 479 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: pace of thirty two point seven five a game. And 480 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,239 Speaker 1: I figured out if these last four, if that they 481 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: are on that same pace, they will give up five 482 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four points. Five hundred and twenty four points. 483 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: The single season record for this franchise in its sixty 484 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: first season is it four hundred and thirty six and 485 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. They're gonna beat it by over like almost 486 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: one hundred points. It's unbelievable. That's not a record yan 487 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: I have. It's it's I have been there. It's tough. 488 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: My last two years with Dallas, if I'm not mistaken, 489 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: we were three and thirteen. Tom's last year, yes, and 490 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: of course Jimmy's first year one in fifteen. So that's 491 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: got only four wins for myself and those guys in 492 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: in two years. In other words, you were Cincinnati, boy 493 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: was I Oh my god, I mean you're Cincinnati the 494 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: last two years because Zach Taylor, I think they're at 495 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: four twenty three and one or something like that here 496 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: the last since he took over his head coach, but 497 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: go ahead ever since. No, what I was saying was 498 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: I know the frustration. You know, as a fan, I'm 499 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: always posting about how disappointing it is and things that nature. 500 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: But as a former player, being in that particular, that 501 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: exact same position, just a feeling. You're talking about not 502 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: being able to stop the run. They're not even trying 503 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: to pass the ball most of the time. You're not 504 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: being able to stop the run. Every drive that you 505 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: go out there is hard to keep that positive mentality. 506 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: Everything that you do doesn't work out. You see you 507 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: guys up front, they can't stop the run. Holes are 508 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: opening up. Linebackers know where to be found. And these 509 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: are talented people that you are playing with. You know 510 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: that your teammates are talented, but then you see the 511 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: futility of it all. Coaches can't do anything. You go 512 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: into the meeting every day, same thing, day in day out, 513 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: that hum drum, just same old feeling that comes over you. 514 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: It's a really tough situation to be in as a player. 515 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: As we look at it from the outside, you know, 516 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: guys like you Sax build you guys you can write 517 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: about it. You're frustrated even writing about it. Just think 518 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: if you're a player out there with any type of 519 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: pride trying to do something to change anything, and no 520 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: matter what you do, it doesn't work. I do feel 521 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: for those guys. Trust me, I've been there. I know 522 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: that futility. But man, my only my refuge was the 523 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: fact that they kicked me out of there. How do 524 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: you how do you make that change? And as part 525 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: of the solution, that's the toughest part. How can you 526 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: be part of the solution. So give Jimmy Johnson and 527 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: Jerry Let me say, give Jimmy Johnson credit in regards 528 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: to coming from one to fifteen and then the next 529 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: year you go I think seven and nine, right, and 530 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: they were like right in until the end with Babe 531 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: and trying to do this thing. Yeah yeah, and then 532 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: eleven and five. That's the genius to be able to 533 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: pull yourself out of this situation. Like I said, I 534 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: was blessed. Why I just made a phone call and 535 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: I knew what my plan was individual, But to take 536 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: a team, to take an entire team from this situation 537 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: back to prominence, that's gonna be the tough thing to do. 538 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: Jimmy did it very well with his coaching staff and 539 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: the talent that they had. But the Cowboys right now, 540 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: I have to see what that formula is gonna be 541 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: for them to turn all of this around, because eventually 542 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: you gotta start climbing your way back up, and you 543 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: have to have the same the guys with the right attitude. 544 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: You don't want those same guys that you know have 545 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: that same old old woe is me attitude. You want 546 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: a different attitude. And how the coach and staff is 547 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: going to be able to do this or how this 548 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: organization's gonna be able to do this, that's gonna be 549 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: a tough task. Yeah, And you know, the culture of 550 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: the team had changed so dramatically for people that had 551 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: been there with twenty consecutive winning seasons, and then you 552 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: go seven and nine, seven and eight, three and thirteen 553 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: one in fifteen, seven and nine, you end up with 554 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: what five sixth straight or five straight losing seasons after 555 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 1: twenty consecutive winning seasons. But it ended up getting turned 556 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: around that ninety one season when they win eleven and 557 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: five and actually won a playoff game in Chicago. Kelvin 558 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: Martin's punt return I thought was the biggest play that 559 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: probably the biggest play of this the new franchise. That's 560 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: the biggest play to me of the new franchise because 561 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: I never thought they could go into Philadelphia and win 562 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: that game. And let's be real, that defense was the 563 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: reason that they were able to do it. We talk 564 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: about Troy Eigman, we talk about the triplets and all 565 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: of that, but that defense was the reason that that 566 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: team was able to hold on and win the Philadelphia game. 567 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: Wake come back from break. 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Get yours today at Shot dot 612 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com or wherever books are soul good jobs. 613 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: That was a good way to go wherever books are sold. 614 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: Are you saying? Are you saying? Ever since that he 615 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: was teetering at some point, I was teetering, but he 616 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: he didn't. He did not elect to run a fake punt. Yeah. 617 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 1: There was a couple of words in there that we're 618 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: kind of tricky. Yeah, So there there was a great 619 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 1: testament to just go with it. Okay, let the game 620 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: play out, Let the read play out. There's no reason 621 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: for a fake punt here, even though you since that's 622 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: exactly right. Yeah, that's right. If we were taping, this 623 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: started over right, But when it's live, you just pushed 624 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: right there. I tried, I tried. There are no false starts. 625 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: You know, life is one big false start for some 626 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 1: of us. Oh, all right, you had a story to tell. 627 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: Mickey had a story to tell about Dallas Philly. Yeah, 628 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: that nineteen ninety one, and it was cold, and I 629 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: do remember that. You remember the I don't know bill 630 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 1: if you got to sit in the press box where 631 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: all the writers were. The press boxes were separated at 632 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: the vet the like the home team was on one side, 633 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: the TV cameras the radio booths were in the middle, 634 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: and then the visitors were on the other side of 635 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: the press box. And there was a window there that 636 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: was removable because they put a camera in there, so 637 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 1: if it was thirty degrees outside, that window was opened 638 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: the whole game. And that poor cameraman used to get 639 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: the worst stairs you've ever seen, because we're in there 640 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: covering a game and we might as well, have our 641 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: coats and hats and gloves on, because it was like 642 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: sitting outside. I do remember that punt return. I do 643 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: remember I Colt coming back and picking somebody off. It 644 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: probably would have been a penalty in these days, but 645 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: he nay somebody and was the last guy that could 646 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: get Kelvin Martin tackled and on the team charter coming back. 647 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: They probably didn't need to to any how, should I 648 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: put it, they didn't need any fuel in that plane 649 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: because you'd never seen guys celebrate lar and I mean 650 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: the guys up front, the coaching staff, because they were 651 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 1: under a lot of pressure, right they were the new guys, 652 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: and they finally broke through and that was a big moment. 653 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 1: And uh, I happened to be on the charter because 654 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: after the paper folded. So we'll go back to where 655 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 1: we started. I get a call from Maryland Love, Jerry 656 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: Jones's ministrative assistant, and she said, Jerry thinks you guys 657 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: deserve to finish out the season, so if you want 658 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: to go to the game, we'll put you on the 659 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: charter and put you at the hotel with the team. 660 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: So that's amazing, And so I walk up to the 661 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: front there, and Jimmy kind of motioned me up and 662 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: they're celebrating. They're all over he hugging and and I 663 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: told him, I said, you know, I said before the 664 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: season started, I said the over under for wins for 665 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys this year was like eight and a half. 666 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: He goes eight and a half. He goes, Man, for me, 667 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: that would have been a paycheck bet, because they ended 668 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 1: up getting to eleven and and and that game gave 669 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: him ten. Uh. And then I think they finished the 670 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: season off beating um, I want to say the Bears, 671 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: and maybe in the last game or something like that. 672 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, that it was a huge celebration on 673 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: that flight back. And uh. And who was the quarterback 674 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys that day, Steve Burline. That's right, that 675 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: was a quarterback. That was the one. Jimmy read him 676 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: the Riot Act before the game. He's and he basically said, 677 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: under no circumstances do you take a sack and get 678 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: that defense all riled up with that front and the 679 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: crowd all riled up. He goes, I don't care if 680 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: you go three for fifteen in the first half, you 681 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: throw the ball away. You do not take a sack. Well, 682 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: he listened because I think he was like four for 683 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: twelve or some ridiculous number like that until they got 684 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: that punt return and then put the game away in 685 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 1: the like was a late third quarter or fourth quarter 686 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: when that happened. But yeah, Burlton listened to what he 687 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: said because we're gonna make sure we played defense and 688 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: we don't give him anything. And that was the instructions. 689 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: And then just lets you know, guys, the same old 690 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: tried and true offense what sales tickets, and defense wins 691 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: the games. It is so prevalent right now. The only 692 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: teams in the NFC East that are playing defense are 693 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: the ones that actually have a chance at this point 694 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: to make it to the playoffs. Even as bad as 695 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 1: the NFC East looks right now, you have two teams, 696 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 1: two teams in the nfcast. When it's all said and 697 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: done and everything balances out, those two teams have a 698 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: chance to win because of how good their defense is. 699 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: All you got to do is hold on. All you 700 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 1: gotta do is not make mistakes, play good defense, let 701 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: your special teams work for you. And with the Cowboys, 702 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: it's so funny because they started off with that mentality 703 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 1: and then as they start to win the Super Bowls, 704 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 1: it all became about paying offensive players. They're the ones 705 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: that they keep on the team. But guys like Ken Norton, 706 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: he's gone. You know, your middle linebacker is gone. Yet 707 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: you still continue to win. But there's no emphasis put 708 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: on defense for this entire organization. I think they need 709 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: to kind of kind of pivot a little bit. And 710 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: of course you still have the amazing offensive players, but 711 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: I wish we would really concentrate more on being creating 712 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: a culture of defense around this organization. You know. And 713 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: the other part of that is that was a December 714 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: game in frigid Philadelphia. Okay, you take you back to 715 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: Tuesday night in Baltimore. You talk about special teams, Okay, 716 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: and it's a different game in December when you're playing 717 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: out in the elements. Okay, it was a thirty nine 718 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 1: forty degree night in Baltimore. The other night on Sunday 719 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: afternoon in Cincinnati. I think the high temperature it's gonna 720 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: be thirty nine and forty degrees when they play in Cincinnati. 721 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 1: You cannot kick the same length field goals when it's 722 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: in the thirties, is what it is. In the seventies, okay, 723 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: And so when you're kicking these fifty yard field goals, 724 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: your chances of making I don't know what the analytics 725 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: say on making fifty yard field goals when it's thirty 726 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: eight degrees outside, but I guarantee you it's not as 727 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: great as when you're kicking when seventy eight degrees exactly, 728 00:44:54,360 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 1: that's right. But they don't have to hook or fade. Well, no, 729 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: but but as a kicker that means he has to 730 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: put more effort in training. He's trying to compensate be 731 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: a different dynamic. Yes, right, rights fast. I'm not giving 732 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,240 Speaker 1: a pass. I want him to make those field goals, 733 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: but there is a dynamic too kicking a heavier ball 734 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: and how it was going to go through there. And 735 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't just cold that night, Bill, it was windy 736 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: windy as well. So you can see it. You can 737 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: see it just playing with them try no matter way 738 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: you kick it. I mean justin Tucker early in that 739 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: game has his seventy field goal. Uh Street mayfield goal 740 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 1: streaks snapped, you know, because inside forty yards and so 741 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: that was an indicator that maybe maybe it's not a 742 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 1: good night for field goal kickers. That's why you need 743 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: to have a team that is built for the playoffs, 744 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: and that starts with defense and special teams. All right, 745 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: never an hour, ever change nine miles in Baltimore. I'll 746 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: give you what was it in Philadelphia? Oh that I 747 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: don't know what it was, but it was nine an 748 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: hour in Baltimore. Ye, I'll give you that. That could 749 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: have been a burst, Nicky, was the last time you 750 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: were on that inner harbor in Baltimore? That that way? 751 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: Don't kick up? Oh no, I know it will. The 752 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 1: windchill was thirty two miles an hour. Wind the windchill 753 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: was thirty two miles an hour. On that note, Chris 754 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: giving us, you know, it's a good thing you had 755 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 1: that recording. We at least mentioned Cincinnati for forty five minutes. Yeah, 756 00:46:52,040 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: well tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, we are definitely on the Cincinnati. Okay, 757 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: We're onto Cincinnati tomorrow and mix shots. So we will 758 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: see you again on Friday. Go Cowboys. This has been 759 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas 760 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys Football Club.