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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we never get tired of

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Speaker 1: naming some guys. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris

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Speaker 1: Wesleyan Podcast studio packed house for our first preview show

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Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty five season. To my left the

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Speaker 1: indomitable Steve Weiss. To his left Jordan rod Reeg and yes,

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Speaker 1: the man who inspired the Claymates.

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Speaker 2: It is a Claybond.

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Speaker 3: We're back this, We're here week one. Is here real football?

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Speaker 3: Jordan on the preview show.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, this is an honor.

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Speaker 1: We sent out our weekly schedule and I don't know

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Speaker 1: if we've really talked about it on the show, but

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Speaker 1: we were going to have the same group of folks

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Speaker 1: covering every week on the same days and our preview

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Speaker 1: show as long as Steve is available next one. I

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Speaker 1: know he's busy sometime, but otherwise otherwise we got we

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Speaker 1: got our Tuesday crew, we got our preview crew, and

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Speaker 1: we've got our Sunday crew. Jordan, myself, Patrick and Shook.

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Speaker 1: Shook helping me out on the recaps. And uh, I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited, and I'm also excited to finally remember to

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Speaker 1: announce that yes, the competition to decide the name of

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Speaker 1: Patrick's fan base ended up being the Claymates, beating out

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Speaker 1: the clay Bon Bonds and the clay Bond Vivans, which

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Speaker 1: got a lot of comments.

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Speaker 2: But those are alls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they are officially known as the Claymates forevermore

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Speaker 1: and they're going to be excited about this week one schedule.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations to all their were revolved. Thank you. I can't

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Speaker 3: believe anybody took their time.

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Speaker 2: Thousands you saw it, like six.

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Speaker 3: That's thousands of people. Love you. No, they'll do it.

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Speaker 3: You could have been like, hey, what's what should I

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Speaker 3: have a cheese sandwich? Or you've got thousands? But thank

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Speaker 3: you for anybody that thinks of me.

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Speaker 1: Ever, I also love this show, maybe more than the

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Speaker 1: because Patrick assists me here and like sets up all

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Speaker 1: the games and makes it easy with the point spreads

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Speaker 1: and the announcers like it's all happening.

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Speaker 3: We're doing it, and why don't we fire this place?

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Speaker 3: Let's could do it right now. We will start with

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Speaker 3: Sunday Night Football, win a game playoff rematch. It is

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Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens at the Buffalo Bills, who are giving

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Speaker 3: up a half of a point. The over under fifty

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Speaker 3: one and a half. You know the names, Mike to Rico,

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Speaker 3: Chris Collins, Roors, and Melissa Stark. All there, Carrie Underwood.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a fun time. Greg, how do you

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Speaker 3: see the playoff rematch going?

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Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna get to super Bowl picks later in

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Speaker 1: the show. You should have mentioned that I'm putting everyone

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Speaker 1: on the line here that we just have to plant

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Speaker 1: the flag. Jordan doesn't like picking anything. She is gonna

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Speaker 1: be involved in picking the super Bowl and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have Survivor picks again. We're all starting, Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm annoyed because this game should be a bigger deal,

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Speaker 1: right like if this was any other week of the season.

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Speaker 1: The Bills and the Ravens literally in Vegas, the two favorites,

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Speaker 1: co favorites to win the Super Bowl this year, they

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Speaker 1: have the best odds. And yet because there's so many

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Speaker 1: other great games going on in Week one and so

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Speaker 1: many other plot lines, like, I feel like this isn't

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Speaker 1: getting enough.

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Speaker 3: Pop.

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Speaker 2: I want to, you know, throw this to you, Jordan.

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Speaker 1: We were going to do something on our show on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and you know, or on Tuesday, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: was going to come back to this It was going

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Speaker 1: to be a part where we said pick a team

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Speaker 1: playoffs that at everyone expects to make the playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: I forgot to do that part of the show. But

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Speaker 1: you were going to say Bills.

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Speaker 4: Which is it's paraphrasing what I said a little greg,

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Speaker 4: as you tend to do, but yes, it was. I'm

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Speaker 4: worried about their defense. I'm scared for the Bills because

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Speaker 4: I'm worried about their defense. I still think this is

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Speaker 3: Not making the playoffs, advancing through the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen is still on this football team. Advancing deep

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Speaker 4: into the playoffs is what I'm more worried about with

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Speaker 4: this Bills team. And I'm worried about what this defense

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Speaker 3: I look, Buffalo is going to the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Their division is this is like this is this is

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Speaker 1: Early category literally was team that everyone expects to make

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Speaker 2: That doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Out loud, you know, I'm kind of worried about the Bills,

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Speaker 4: and Greg goes, oh, I'm bringing it up tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Look, this is more when you think about Baltimore the

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Speaker 5: finished with one more lost in Buffalo last year. So

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Speaker 5: I have to go up in the snow and then

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Speaker 5: this is truly a home field advantage game right here.

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Speaker 5: And so I think, you know, doesn't look like the

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Speaker 3: But that's still what they're They're they're probably.

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Speaker 2: Gonna go Charlie Kohli.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they got pat Ric hard too. They'll

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Speaker 5: they'll do what they have to do. But I just

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Speaker 5: think this is when you listen to the stuff coming

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Speaker 5: us last. So it seems like this may mean more

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Speaker 5: a lot to Buffalo. I I just I think the

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Speaker 5: Ravens are are going to be soloaded, and I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be throwing the ball in their

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Speaker 5: year the first six weeks was terrible. They're gonna be better.

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Speaker 5: I got Malachi Starks in there. I was a training camp.

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Speaker 5: He looks sick back there with Kyle Hamilton and safety.

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Speaker 5: This guy stopped to run against Buffalo Josh Allen Man.

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Speaker 5: Gotta put a helmet on him.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: I read it in Ravens fan, I know feels uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: hard this week. To use your phrasing, and if I

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Speaker 1: Patrick I'd be like, yeah, you know why the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: yards and the Bills running attack, to me, is very underrated.

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Speaker 1: I love the backups behind James Cook, Ty Johnson and

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Speaker 2: So that's a concern for me for the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: And to be honest, like to go back through the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: I know it was a road game Baltimore beat Buffalo

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Speaker 3: Handley earlier in the season. To me, it was one

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Speaker 3: of those situations, much like the loss of the Chiefs Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: Flowers fumbled at the one yard line. It's a situation

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Speaker 3: where you turn the ball over. That's how these playoffs,

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Speaker 3: that's how. That's how it happens. Turn the ball over.

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Speaker 3: You don't protect the ball, it's not round, it goes

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Speaker 3: to the other team. And that's something that Lamar had

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Speaker 3: this season, and you mentioned Malachi Starks. But to me,

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Speaker 3: my big concern in this game is on the other side,

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Speaker 3: the fact that Khalil Shakir is not available, and that

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Speaker 3: But the accumulation of stress that this offense and this

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Speaker 3: be a problem. It's not gonna be a problem one week.

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen could do it just like Lamar can, right,

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Speaker 3: But you want to limit the involvement for these guys

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Speaker 3: as great as they are as the season goes on,

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Speaker 3: because it's a very long season. But it's a coin

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Speaker 3: toss just like I mean, these teams basically had essentially

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Speaker 3: the same stats, incredibly efficient offenses. I think in terms

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Speaker 3: So yeah, they're both good. We'll see who wins Undery.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for the Bills, I agree. I think you do

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Speaker 4: want to run it or try to with that group

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Speaker 4: But you want to run it again. Try to run

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Speaker 4: they've developed last year. Behin under zach Or second year

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Speaker 4: is his defensive coordinator. But then at the same time,

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Speaker 4: that they have continuity along this offensive line. So running

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Speaker 4: now as they are, is you're gonna want to try

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Speaker 4: to rush for which we need the Ravens to show

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Speaker 4: us that a little bit more into this year. Mike

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Speaker 4: statistically when you're sending extra pressure even when you're only

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Speaker 4: if you're only rushing four and everybody's back in coverage,

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Speaker 4: the way that we know that the Ravens want to play.

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Speaker 4: He struggled, He struggled last year.

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Speaker 1: Joe, he did Bosa debut and just keep an eye

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Speaker 2: Gray from the Saints. I know how about that?

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Speaker 1: Everyone's like, ah, like, how he did it again? How

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Speaker 1: about Eric DaCosta did it again right before the season.

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Speaker 3: There we go, so we leave a game on Sunday

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Speaker 3: Night football that we all know everything about. These are

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Speaker 3: not a lot of known commodities. And then we go

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Speaker 3: to Monday and that is when JJ McCarthy gets the

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Speaker 3: chance of this to start against Ben Johnson's Chicago Bears,

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Speaker 3: who are favored by excuse me, who are gett one

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Speaker 3: and a half. The Vikings favorite here Joe Buck, Troygman,

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Speaker 3: Lisa Salters on the call, Steve, we have waited for

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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams. We finally get a chance

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Speaker 3: to see it on Monday night. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: No, I think a lot of it is it's not

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Speaker 6: It's it's the sharing the wealth you know, that's what

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Speaker 5: I mean, it says a guy coming from the Detroit

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Speaker 3: That's like twenty points too high for me.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you think it's really game.

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Speaker 3: You've got Dennis Allen. People forget about that.

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Speaker 5: People forget the Dennis Allen is now the Bears defensive quarter.

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Speaker 5: He's a great defensive coordinator. You know, I'm broad against

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Speaker 5: Ryan Flores, Like this is gonna be like a ten

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Speaker 3: You into known passing situations. And that's what's going to

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Speaker 1: It's it's such an advantage when he's talking about, like,

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Speaker 1: we got a lot of high volume, high scoring shooters here,

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Speaker 2: Uh And and you look at these.

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Speaker 1: Two teams, like the Bears are so much deeper in

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Speaker 1: You have to bring an Adam Thelen to be your

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Speaker 1: me that the Vikings didn't want him that bad, I guess,

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Speaker 1: A Kias is probably three, Patrick who's a really good three,

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Speaker 1: It was like, no, the Lions absolutely steamrolled them, like

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Speaker 3: And and to to credit what Ben Johnson is pointing

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Speaker 3: number of things that you can do, he's clearly right

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Speaker 3: a coach who wants to get certain players in certain

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Speaker 3: saying that Hey, Colston Loveland is now Sam Laporta or

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Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift as Jamior Gibbs, But we still need to

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Speaker 3: most excited about is just to watch things operate in time,

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Speaker 3: because I saw those flashes from Romo Donze where he's

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Speaker 3: like Caleb is not a bad passer of the football.

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Speaker 3: The time was just so horrible last season that we

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to pick them to win this game,

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Speaker 3: but I just want to say growth in that aspect

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Speaker 4: And I kind of I want to push back on

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Speaker 2: Because fight fight, I don't we're mad.

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Speaker 4: I think Brian Flores is gonna do exactly the opposite

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Speaker 4: of that. Obviously, he wants to disrupt his timing as

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Speaker 4: much as possible. He wants to confuse Caleb Williams with

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Speaker 4: He's going to want to disrupt the timing of all

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Speaker 4: these receivers, routes, the secondary that he deploys, if they

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Speaker 4: are not rushing, if he's not sending everybody. He is

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Speaker 4: mixing coverages and he's doing like half field coverages for

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Speaker 4: the number one thing to your point, Patrick, that Caleb

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Speaker 4: I think like that is really what we're going to see.

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Speaker 4: really bring it, Like I expect Dennis Allen to design

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Speaker 4: the heck, add of some pressure and try to fluster

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Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy as much as possible. But how can this

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Speaker 4: how can we slow this down for both quarterbacks? Early?

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Speaker 2: Can we have a Dennis Allen sonce that doesn't really

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Speaker 4: But like Allen awakening, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's finally it's a revenge against everybody.

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Speaker 1: He's finally, like you know, free of being the most

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Speaker 1: hated man in New Orleans unfortunately, and just gets to

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Speaker 1: do what he does best. This is a fascinating team

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Speaker 4: I also don't really know how we are doing this

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Speaker 4: this year, but this is my survivor pick, also sort

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Speaker 4: of a fan fair.

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Speaker 3: The Bears are the pick.

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Speaker 4: No, No, the vik is because of their hot start

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Speaker 4: last season. I know it's a new quarterback, but the

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Speaker 4: Vikings are my survivor pick this season. Let's send it

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Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell, Brian Flores.

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Speaker 1: Let's do a little suspicious here. You know, Jordan, you

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Speaker 1: know I love pick. Pretend she doesn't know anything like

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Speaker 1: what's the survivor. It's like she she made an allusion

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Speaker 1: I love dat I'm kind of talking out of both

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Speaker 1: I think that you just have, like the most things

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Speaker 2: I know, we gotta we gotta move.

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Speaker 3: Don't Ben this game, but like they.

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Speaker 1: Have a lot of question marks JJ McCarthy, Christian Darisa

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Speaker 5: I just want I just want to face Ben Johnson

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Speaker 2: It's just Jrdan's gonna win this thing.

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Speaker 3: We know she find out all right, And once you

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Speaker 1: There we got ye all lost by week grease that

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Speaker 3: We have the Ben Johnson lists, much of the sagorindum

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Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers as the Lion's trying to win four

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Speaker 4: I'm curious if mikeah Parsons is going to play. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't know how much of a smoke screen

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Speaker 2: However, you're not getting it. In Jack injection as Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know, I'm just saying, I'm just saying

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Speaker 5: I could see him and known passing downs being out

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Speaker 3: You know it's he's gonna get on the field.

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Speaker 5: They're not going to make this type of big swing

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Speaker 1: He's not ready to play. They should be thinking a

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Speaker 1: little long game. He hasn't practiced getting Jack. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm worried about winning the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Could trade for Michael Parsons for December January, February, not

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Speaker 3: for There's no way he's not. There's no way they're

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Speaker 2: That's just like not how far I would be.

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Speaker 5: I would be so stunned if they're like, Okay, we're

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Speaker 4: Because if it weren't in Green Bay, I think that

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Speaker 5: To be and it's a good Detroit Yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I just think it's they're going to get out there.

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Speaker 5: They're going to spot him when they need to spot him.

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Speaker 5: They're going to put you know, run fronts up there

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Speaker 5: I think he is impactful. Uh He's got with Sean

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Speaker 3: This might end up being the best pass rushing tandem

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Speaker 1: And it's maybe more of a mismatch than previous years

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Speaker 1: him to be because yeah, you know it's him, and

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Speaker 1: it's a rookie ty Leek Williams who's and it's Mark

439
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Speaker 1: I guess Davenport.

440
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Speaker 2: I know, we gotta have Hutchinson.

441
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Speaker 1: But you can't, like ask the Browns, you can't just

442
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 1: build an entire defense off like one pass rusher. So

443
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,360
Speaker 1: that versus a kind of new Packers offensive line I'm

444
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Speaker 1: interested in too.

445
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Speaker 3: Yeah, an offensive line that was one of the most

446
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Speaker 3: cohesive over the course of last season, if not the

447
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 3: most if I recall correctly, And so you make changes there,

448
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 3: you get to see the way John because Josh Jacobs

449
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 3: gets bubble wrapped in the preseason. Yeah, and I kind

450
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 3: of unleashed them on the opposition once once things get

451
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Speaker 3: going where I think it's it's four in a row.

452
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Speaker 1: To me, it's six out of seven overall, Like it's

453
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 1: kind of crazy that they own they own the Packers, but.

454
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Speaker 3: They've just been so good. They're beating everybody.

455
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Speaker 1: But they're not beating everyone six out of seven, you

456
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Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like it all, I went back

457
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Speaker 1: to go look to like see where this started, and

458
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 1: it was actually like a Week eighteen game where they

459
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Speaker 1: rested Aaron Rodgers and then Jordan Love came in. But

460
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Speaker 1: if you do think like of that big weight Week

461
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Speaker 1: eight team game that they knocked the Packers out of

462
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, like a lot of their best moments last year,

463
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Speaker 1: I think their two wins against the Packers were the

464
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Speaker 1: best moments that they had. They this has been a

465
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Speaker 1: one sided like coaching and organizational rivalry. I like like

466
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Speaker 1: I like the exceptions underdogs like this is another one

467
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Speaker 1: where I feel like spread some of these games out

468
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 1: NFL like this game's amazing. It's a big spot also

469
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Speaker 1: for Tony Ramo, who needs another bounce back season after

470
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Speaker 1: a couple of down years, and this is like an

471
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Speaker 1: NFC game, so it's different teams. I feel like that

472
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Speaker 1: helps him. He's he is bored of announcing the Chiefs.

473
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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, you got him a game. He's

474
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Speaker 4: not gonna fall asleep during. But I feel like this

475
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Speaker 4: is probably to your guys point, this is probably why

476
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Speaker 4: Matt laflor looked so stressed out this week speaking to

477
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Speaker 4: the media to open the week. He looks like Week eight.

478
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Speaker 4: Matt Laflour to.

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Speaker 5: Me, I gotta tell you, though, Jordan, I am so

480
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Speaker 5: interested in seeing those Packers wide receivers. They have got

481
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Speaker 5: speed to burn there. They're set up a lot like

482
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Speaker 5: the Lions and that regard out wide. And Jordan Love

483
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Speaker 5: is healthy.

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Speaker 3: Man.

485
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Speaker 5: We talked about it. That guy quarterback Island Show. There's

486
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Speaker 5: very few guys as talented throwing the ball, especially deep,

487
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Speaker 5: and that guy right there at number ten.

488
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Speaker 4: Well, I really think matt Lafleur especially, he has kind

489
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Speaker 4: of been itching to get into his bag on like

490
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Speaker 4: gadget players too. And I'm not calling Matthew Golden a

491
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Speaker 4: gadget player, but I just know they want to use

492
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Speaker 4: him in so many different juice types of ways. And

493
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Speaker 4: I've been saying this since they drafted him. I think

494
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Speaker 4: he's going to be the volume, number one receiver on

495
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Speaker 4: this team. They're going to need him. They're going to

496
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Speaker 4: need him to show up and be explosive and do

497
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Speaker 4: all kinds of things with their motions and their shifts

498
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Speaker 4: and their formation changes and moving gaps on the defense.

499
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Speaker 4: They're going to need all of it. And I cannot

500
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Speaker 4: wait to see what their plan is for him.

501
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Speaker 3: Green Bay opens with Detroit and then they've got the

502
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Speaker 3: Commander's next.

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Speaker 2: That's brutal and Thursday, Nike think about Lafleur.

504
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Speaker 3: I could be here Wednesday, by the way, Okay.

505
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Speaker 2: We'll accept that. We'll accept that.

506
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Speaker 1: I know Jayden Reid, by the way, so he's not

507
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Speaker 1: going to be able to unlift the full arsenal at

508
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Speaker 1: least not a practice on Wednesday, and there's not a

509
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Speaker 1: lot of optimism that he will play. But in general,

510
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: they are are healthier. And before we take it to break,

511
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Speaker 1: it's just gonna be the first time we get to

512
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Speaker 1: see our guy, Isaac Dislaw in the in the regular season.

513
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Speaker 2: Watch out for Cleif Raymond.

514
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Speaker 1: Like people in Detroit are kind of like, well, Cleif

515
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: Raymond's a starter, and they kind of love Cleif Raymond.

516
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Speaker 1: And that's part of the reason too that they got

517
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Speaker 1: rid of Tim Patrick after one full segment before the break.

518
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Speaker 2: I'm ready to call it. This is the best previews

519
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Speaker 2: show in the bus.

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Speaker 3: There we go, let's take a break a week back

521
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Speaker 3: in a.

522
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Speaker 1: Few back on NFL Daily. We are currently on pace

523
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Speaker 1: for about a two hour and thirty minute show.

524
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Speaker 2: And you know what, the.

525
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: Patrick angel on my left shoulder is telling me, like

526
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Speaker 1: it's good stuff. Stop worrying about the time. Great, Yes,

527
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Speaker 1: don't worry about it.

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Speaker 2: That's me.

529
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Speaker 3: I'm saying that in Greg's imagination.

530
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Speaker 1: Especially when we got like Colts Dolphins next the game,

531
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Speaker 1: you're the most excited.

532
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: About, the most excited about two AFC powerhouses. No, but seriously,

533
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Speaker 3: Mike McDaniels Miami Dolphins at the Indianapolis Colts in Lucas

534
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Speaker 3: Oil Stadium. The Colts favored by one and a half points.

535
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Speaker 3: The over under is forty six and a half. Andrew

536
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 3: Catalog and our dear friend Charles Davis on the call,

537
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 3: it is Dimes time. Clearly, the bookmakers love Dimes, Greg,

538
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: That's why they've got them favored by one and a

539
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Speaker 3: half points.

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Speaker 1: Not a lot of not a lot of respect for Miami,

541
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: but whatever, two teams that were pretty average.

542
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Speaker 2: So that's that's last year. Going into this year.

543
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Speaker 1: I like the Dolphins in this game in general, and

544
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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting like that Razullo Douglas arrives

545
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Speaker 1: with the Dolphins just like he's an immediate.

546
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Speaker 3: Starter and that's where they are. Right.

547
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 1: That's not a great sign, and this is a mismatch

548
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: the Colts roster. It really isn't like we're so focused

549
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: on the quarterbacks that you kind of forget the rest

550
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: of the roster has a lot to like.

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Speaker 3: I think the pass catcha I'm with you.

552
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Speaker 1: I think like the matchup of you know, Tyler Warren

553
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: versus whether it's Douglas or whether it's this undrafted rookie

554
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: they have, I think Jason Marshall and the nickel or

555
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: or if it's Minkoat like that, that's a really fascinating one.

556
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: Ultimately, if Daniel Jones.

557
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Speaker 1: And Stikeen can get a the ball, like there are

558
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: a lot of mismatches here for that receiving group to pick.

559
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,239
Speaker 5: Up, well, I want to flip it. I mean, lou

560
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 5: Ana Roumo, you talk about a revenge tour right now.

561
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 5: He's got so many studs on that defense. I mean,

562
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 5: look at that defensive front. They got defensive ens that

563
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 5: they can roll in. I think Leau Latu is going

564
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 5: to blow up mm hm uh this season. And the

565
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 5: Miami Dolphins, we can talk about all their issues in

566
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 5: the secondary, their offensive line, they got problems, they got issues.

567
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Speaker 5: I mean, Tua, you talk about being on time, being

568
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 5: quick with the ball, He's really going to have to

569
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Speaker 5: be quick with the ball this year. The whole stuff

570
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Speaker 5: with Tyreek and Jalen Waddle. I think a lot of

571
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Speaker 5: people aren't expecting to much out of the Dolphins. We're

572
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Speaker 5: hearing about some chaos going on behind the scenes. I

573
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Speaker 5: just I like Indiana this year. You're the first person

574
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Speaker 5: I won't.

575
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Speaker 3: Say this year in this game.

576
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Speaker 5: But their defense is going to keep them in position

577
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Speaker 5: because at AFC South is going to be jumbled.

578
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Speaker 4: Up a little bit, I think. And I think we're

579
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Speaker 4: I like the Colts in this game because you know,

580
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 4: as much as I believe in Anthony Weaver and as

581
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Speaker 4: much as I think that when this Miami dolphinship is

582
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 4: rolling at high speed, like it's really really hard to stop,

583
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 4: but at the same time, I think we're going to

584
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 4: see a really almost mechanized version of the Shane Steiken offense.

585
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 4: See player throwball to player, do what I tell you

586
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 4: in the headset kind of situation with with Daniel Jones.

587
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 4: And I think Shane Stikeen really wants to remind the

588
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 4: world that he can call a game, that he's a

589
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Speaker 4: good play caller, that he really wants to deploy the

590
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 4: tight ends, that he really wants to use Tyler Warren

591
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 4: as like this Unicorn mismatch player, and he just needs

592
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Speaker 4: a quarterback to basically get the ball from the center

593
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Speaker 4: and behind the line of scrimmage, past the line of scrimmage,

594
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Speaker 4: and I think and and also use him a little

595
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Speaker 4: in the run game. And I think, so we'll see

596
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Speaker 4: this like mechanized version that that I'm sure he hopes

597
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 4: will expand over time. But this mechanized version of what

598
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Speaker 4: Shane Stykeen really wants to do at quarterback and with

599
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Speaker 4: his offense.

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Speaker 3: And the problem with that is when you have this

601
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Speaker 3: this group of pass catchers, especially with a guy like

602
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Speaker 3: the skill set of Alec Pierce, who is one of

603
00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 3: the best deep ballgeters in the history of the it's

604
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: all sample size there, but it's also a small sample

605
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: size of Daniel Jones' completions that are over twenty five

606
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 3: yards in the air, which in his career is eight.

607
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: It's it's a substantial not much. It's not much, but

608
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 3: and I think, right, you utilize the talent, and it's

609
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 3: very difficult to say, hey, go out there and just

610
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 3: don't make mistakes, because that's that's the it's the kind

611
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: of collar that gets put on people like Jared Goff.

612
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: But Jared Golf goes out there and makes plays. Yeah,

613
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: and it's just been a very long time because I

614
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: know Daniel Jones had the fumble issues. He had eighteen

615
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 3: in his rookie year and it was a thing. And

616
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: then he went into safety mode and he was very

617
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: protective not turn the ball over. But the offense also

618
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: did nothing. And so I think you have to unleash

619
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Speaker 3: dimes to make it watchable. I don't want to watch

620
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: like a Paint by Numbers version of Daniel Jones because

621
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Speaker 3: I think.

622
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 2: That's the that guy's gone though, like he just stopped playing.

623
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Speaker 4: I just think you got to run him. Then you

624
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 4: gotta run him a little bit.

625
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Speaker 5: They say he was reborn in Minneapolis, they say he

626
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 5: got there.

627
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: You know, we will see. I feel all the bad

628
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: vibes out of Miami. I understand that, but there's been

629
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 3: bad vibes in Miami for a while.

630
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the bad vibe off like both these teams.

631
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: This is such a big Week one. I think Week

632
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: one is so big for teams coming off bad seasons

633
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: or facing a lot of questions because it just lets

634
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: everyone breathe a little, gives you a chance and like

635
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: the winner of this game is gonna feel so much

636
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: better about themselves, and.

637
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 2: I still do have a will feel so much worse right,

638
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: I still have.

639
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: Some of the like Mike McDaniel, September magic is kind

640
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: of a thing in my brain, and I have this

641
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: image of like like Tyreek and Jalen Waddell on a

642
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: fast track. I mean, that's an indoor team. If I've

643
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: ever seen everyone's saying they can't go out into the weather, Well,

644
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: how about let's go to Lucas Soil Stadium.

645
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: Which is why let's go Dolphins.

646
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what, which is.

647
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: Why they are my Survivor Picks Week one. Greg's reactionually

648
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 3: makes me feel even better about it.

649
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm picking them, but you guys, why are

650
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: you taking such big risks?

651
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 3: Because it's all of risk. I took a small risk

652
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: last year and lost to one, so why not keep

653
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: it rolling.

654
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 4: I like to feel alive.

655
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: Wait for you guys to join me, and we're gonna

656
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: do it as a team. Let's go to a game

657
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: of what The biggest question in the entire NFL, the

658
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 3: most consequential one to me. The Houston Texans across the

659
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 3: street from us at the Los Angeles Rams, who were

660
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 3: giving up two and a half points. The over under

661
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: is forty four and a half. The goat Kevin Harlan

662
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 3: and Trent Green on the call. Steve, of course, the

663
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: biggest question to me is how healthy is Matthew Stafford. Really?

664
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: Are we going to find out Steve on Sunday.

665
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 5: We are, But my bigger question is how healthy might CJ.

666
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 5: Stroud be after this game? The Texans offensive line is

667
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 5: a significant issue and the Rams defensive front is no joke,

668
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 5: and they can roll guys through. They've got depth. I

669
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 5: think Chris Shula is a hell of a defensive coordinator

670
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 5: the way he showed up lash year. But that young

671
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 5: talent against an offensive line. We don't know the names

672
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 5: of these guys, right, they gave up a lot. They've

673
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 5: got to figure some stuff out. Yeah, they're passing game

674
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 5: coordinator and came from the Rams, and people can say

675
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 5: we know what they're gonna do. I just think it's

676
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 5: a talent issue up front for the Texans, and we

677
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 5: also know their receiving core still banked up, a little

678
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 5: bit uncertain, So I think the Rams are gonna get

679
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 5: after Houston. I don't think it's gonna be a blowout

680
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 5: type of game, but we can ask all the questions

681
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 5: you want about Matthew Stafford, CJ.

682
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: Stroud's gonna be under some heat.

683
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 4: Well, Texans defense is gonna get after Matthew Stafford. Will

684
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 4: who's got you know, has been dealing with the back issue,

685
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 4: the aggravated disc all season. I think to your point

686
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: about c J. Stroud and Nick Kayley the offensive coordinator,

687
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 4: I think everyone thinks that this is going to be

688
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 4: like a Sean McVay resembling offense and offensive scheme, and

689
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 4: I don't really think it will be that much. I

690
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 4: think it's going to be more Patriots, and I think

691
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 4: that in turn kind of protects CJ. Stroud a little

692
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 4: bit because it's a lot of quick throws, it's a

693
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 4: lot of you know, timing plays, just things that that

694
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 4: can sort of mitigate the teeth pass rush. But your

695
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 4: Krishula point is spot on because I actually expect him,

696
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 4: you know that what this They were doing some stuff

697
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 4: at the end of the season with five rushers. They

698
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 4: were mixing their fronts a lot, they were going even

699
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 4: odd odd even. They were really doing some little Jesse

700
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: Minter stuff too, little Mike McDonald's stuff that they were copying.

701
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 4: I think they're out of the gate doing that this year,

702
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 4: and with Byron Young potentially even taking on that that

703
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 4: cheetah package role, with Michael Hoyt being gone, moving from

704
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 4: one of the edges over to that extra rusher role.

705
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: Well then they just got to show up like they

706
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: did against the actual Jesse Vinter in the Texans in

707
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year. Not that it was like offense first,

708
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: but they they certainly made it work. I find it

709
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: fascinating that Cam Robinson was signed for twelve or thirteen

710
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: million dollars. He's on the bench for them, and I

711
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: think that's a good sign that they feel really good

712
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: about their second round pick, aronte Ersri. So that's what

713
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: training camp and preseasons FoST to kind of find players

714
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: that you believed in, even a little more than you expected.

715
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: They're talking up that the that they're going to be

716
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: greater than the some of their parts.

717
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: The part I'm worried about just a CJ.

718
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: Stroud in a one dimensional offense against this team concerns me,

719
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: and I guess I'm assuming it's one dimensional with Nick

720
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: Chubb being the running back until proven otherwise, I like,

721
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: I want them to prove me wrong. But Nick Chubb

722
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: and like Woody Marks like a Day three picker. Maybe

723
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: it's Damian Pierce like, but I don't know.

724
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: Well, there was so much volume for Joe Mixon in

725
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: again the offense that was ill fated from start to

726
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 3: finish last year, which is why there's a complete change.

727
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: But I do think with I saw enough first in

728
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: the preseason not to say yeah, not to say, oh,

729
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: this is you know, twenty fifteen's Nick Chobb, Like, no,

730
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: that's not clearly not what's there. But there's enough left

731
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 3: of Nick Chubb to still be a better than replacement,

732
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: much better than replacement level running back to me, in

733
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 3: an offense where this is clearly going to be the

734
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 3: best quarterback that has ever handled the ball to Nick Chubb,

735
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: it's not even close big gap to me, like it's

736
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: significant gap there.

737
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield slander there. You know, I thought you guys

738
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: are a team Biger.

739
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 4: Actually you prefer to extrapolate it as such. We were not,

740
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 4: as we were not making that.

741
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he was one of the quarterback.

742
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: The version of Baker that was clearly wounded and the

743
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: Browns ran him out there.

744
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Adam Patrick essentially, which.

745
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: Got Odell's career ended because he gave him that woful

746
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: pass because he didn't have an arm at the time.

747
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 3: Either way, it's I have hope for for that aspect

748
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: of the Texans offense, But as good as the Rams are,

749
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: it's just it's all number nine. Until I see Matthew

750
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: Stafford playing as Matthew Stafford, I'm going to be very

751
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: concerned about this team that has a super good defense

752
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: but a high variance of outcomes depending on Stafford.

753
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, getting through eighteen weeks, it's going to be the

754
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 5: challenge hardest game for me to pick.

755
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: It's two and a half points.

756
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: The Rams are favored, which is basically saying, you know

757
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: that's that you get two or two and a half

758
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: as the home team. These two teams are very even.

759
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: I could see it going anyway. This is this is

760
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: the this is the once in a what how often

761
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: is this game in Los Angeles? Eight years? You know,

762
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: you know they did it? Game that divides my household.

763
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: My daughter Ellis, who I love dearly, my firstborn, and Walker,

764
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: who's the bigger football fan, but not not by that much.

765
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: He's a Texans fan.

766
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: So it doesn't happen often, but there will be a

767
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: lot of like tension in the house.

768
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 4: Yes, I can't wait for people to see what DeVante

769
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 4: Adams has been doing in this offense. I mean, it's

770
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 4: been so fun because I think people are still somehow

771
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 4: like I'm watching how low he's falling in like fantasy

772
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 4: drafts and stuff. He's coming off the line of scrimmage

773
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 4: so fast. They're going to use him all over the field.

774
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: It's pick your poison in terms of whether you want

775
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 4: to defend bracket him last year or bracket Puka Nakua,

776
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 4: who's who's even bigger and looks more physical than he did.

777
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 4: They're deep at receiver, and I just this is going

778
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: to be fun if Stafford, if Matthew Saffer can say upright,

779
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 4: and Alec Jackson, by the way, who missed most of camp, yeah,

780
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 4: because he was. He's managing blood clots, still managing what

781
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 4: will be an ongoing situation, but is expected to play

782
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 4: in week one. That is huge. He's been in the walkthroughs,

783
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 4: that's huge. So he's missed the physicality of camp, but

784
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 4: he hasn't missed the installs. And I think that's really

785
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 4: really important because as Matthew Stafford goes and stays upright,

786
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 4: this rams team will.

787
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: Go glad he pointed that out, because this really might

788
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: be the best like top receivers versus top cornerbacks in

789
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: the entire NFL, in the entire NFL season, Like because

790
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: to me, it is the Texans, And I don't know

791
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: if there's a better you know one too, maybe maybe

792
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, but they're not on the schedule for Houston.

793
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 2: This is it. This is the matchup and that's.

794
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 3: Why they get Kevin Harland and Trent Green on this call.

795
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 3: Let's go to another exciting matchup, the division champion Tampa

796
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 3: Bay Buccaneers on the road out a team that beat

797
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 3: them twice last year, the Atlanta Falcons at home over

798
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: under forty seven, and I have Kenny Albert and Jonathan

799
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 3: Vilma on the call. Jordan, we have seen this explosive

800
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Buccaneers offense. We've seen an explosive Falcons. These

801
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: teams played calculator games last year. How does this one go?

802
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 4: Points? Points, points, points, points, points, points and more points.

803
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 4: But don't forget that Tristan Wurfs is out for the Bucks,

804
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 4: still has been for a while. And Atlanta like because

805
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 4: they made such a significant trade up to double up

806
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 4: on the outsides because they've been missing that outside pass

807
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 4: rush for so many years in a row. At this point,

808
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 4: it's about two six. They need to prove a point

809
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 4: in a big way, and I think they're going to

810
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 4: try to bring the heat. This is going to be

811
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 4: really exciting. You're going this is a show your work

812
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 4: game to me, because you've got Josh Grazzard, the new

813
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 4: OC with Baker who basically Baker was like, I want

814
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 4: this guy to be MYOCI. I've lost too in a

815
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 4: row now. And then you've got these receivers who are

816
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 4: super talented and have you got you know, Bucky who

817
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 4: is just so so fun love, and they need to

818
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 4: show their work what they did in the off season

819
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 4: on the on the other side, Atlanta really needed to

820
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 4: juice up this defense, especially that outside i'd rush. They

821
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 4: need to show their work this game as well.

822
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 2: Gizzard's real name.

823
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 4: I just said it, Oh, King Grizzard.

824
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: Is Grizzard, the Lizard King. Oh my god, I have

825
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: to say that every time say his actual name of.

826
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 4: King Grizzard from Lizard Lick yea King or the Lizard King,

827
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 4: King Wizard and the Lizard Wizard.

828
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, all right, I love it. I like said, uh,

829
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 5: you know Baker picking his host too. That worked well

830
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 5: with Freddy Kitchens, didn't it. You know, hopefully this works

831
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 5: out a little bit better. I love this game because

832
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 5: Atlanta wins the battles and the Buccaneers win the war.

833
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 5: This is but Kirk Cousins is Wing's really Kirk Cousins

834
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 5: in five games against the Buccaneers, fourteen touchdowns with two

835
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 5: picks and like five million yards. He's not playing. So

836
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 5: Michael Pennix, this is the guy who's gonna pack the

837
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 5: ball a little bit. They're gonna try and do the

838
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 5: deep shots. You're hearing about nine to five Pennix to

839
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 5: Drake London. The Jersey numbers all over the place. They

840
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 5: got Jean Robinson. This to me is a big game

841
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 5: for Atlanta. There there's they're they're psyched up for because

842
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 5: Tampa Bay to me is now we talk about teams

843
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 5: with culture.

844
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: They're a culture team. They expect to win going into games.

845
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 5: Atlanta, with all of its talent, is trying to figure

846
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 5: out how to win. You talk about young edge rushers.

847
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 5: They're starting two rookies in their secondary too. They love

848
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 5: the kid moment. They're strong safety. They love him, So

849
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 5: I'm interested to see how the front and the back

850
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 5: is gonna work because you know me with with the Falcons,

851
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 5: kden nellis their intire linebackers, the most underrated player in

852
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 5: the NFL.

853
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 3: I think he's a superstar that nobody talks about.

854
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 5: But I just want to see how those two sides

855
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 5: work because this offense is gonna put points on the board.

856
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 5: You know, losing their right tackle hurts because he's a

857
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 5: blind side tackle for Penis. That's going to be something

858
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 5: they got to work through. But I think they'll be

859
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 5: able to scheme some stuff up to kind of protect

860
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 5: and Plus Penis is a far more athletic player people

861
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 5: give him credit for.

862
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 3: If he's got to move, he can go right.

863
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: How much quarterback, by the way, we need we need more,

864
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: like if you're if you got a kid that can

865
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: the ambidex strists are out there, or just want to

866
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: grow them up to Like I think the world just

867
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: needs more lefty quarterbacks, like there's there's a need for it.

868
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: I'm more worried about that Falcons offensive line without their

869
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: right tackle and his backup than I am. Even losing

870
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: Tristan worse because the rest of the line can make

871
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: up for it for Tampa, even if it's uh an

872
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: easier matchup for them. I mean, we go through the

873
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: whole off seasons like, oh, we got to improve the.

874
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: Pastors, we got to improve the past.

875
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: I know they're going to play, but ultimately, like the

876
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: Falcons after you know, we got to improve the past,

877
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: they're going to start Leonard Floyd and Arnold Debakhetti, So like,

878
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: are they gonna be.

879
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 4: Don't it's a run. Don't you discount Leonard Floyd against

880
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 4: the run? Come on, dude, still gets I'm just.

881
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: Saying, like, I don't know if they took enough steps

882
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: for me.

883
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of that offensive line, Luke Getticky

884
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 1: got a big time contract on Wednesday morning. A great

885
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: develop I think the local guys say Getticky. So that's

886
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, but I don't know if that's right.

887
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: A good development story. He was thought of as a

888
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,959
Speaker 1: total bust and was at left guard and then moved

889
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: to a tougher position on paper and has turned into

890
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: a huge development story. I did an article last week

891
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 1: the top twenty five free agents of twenty twenty six.

892
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: There were four Buccaneers on there, Yeah, and a lot

893
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: of them. It shows how good they are at like

894
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: developing players. You get and heard of Zion McCollum, Kaita

895
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 1: and who I think is maybe like maybe the most

896
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: underrated tight end. Yeah, and then Mike Evans, who has

897
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: been on that top one o one list like over

898
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: and over. But they get one of them done, they're gonna.

899
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 4: They're gonna pay Kayta. And by the way, Kate Auton

900
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 4: has been out for a little while training camp, but

901
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 4: he's practicing, so he should be a go this week.

902
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 3: Good big pick up. I like the Bucks this one. Yeah,

903
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: it's excited to see. And I don't know James Pearce

904
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 3: Junior as well as Jalen Walker. It's you're you're not

905
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: expecting them to do everything in week one. And I'll

906
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 3: say Steve to the kirk Cousins of it, all right,

907
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 3: he did light up those games against the Bucks, but

908
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 3: also they scored twenty points a game in the games

909
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 3: that kirk Cousins started, and twenty nine points seven percent

910
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: of those points that they scored with kirk Cousins came

911
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: against the Tampa Bay.

912
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 5: Bcconeer that was his team. That's not saying He's not

913
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 5: walking through that door. So Michael Pennock's better show up.

914
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: But it's for the best because they did score thirty

915
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 3: two points per game. Once Peter started Wow and they

916
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: lost Wow, and they lost them. They put thirty eight

917
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 3: on the Panthers and gave up forty four. All right,

918
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: next game is gonna be out West, the San Francisco

919
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers on the road in the Division to

920
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 3: take on the Seattle Seahawks, giving up two and a

921
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: half points. The over under is forty four and a half.

922
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: Joe Davis and g Reg As we get to see

923
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold starting with another team. He's gonna prove you wrong, Greg.

924
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: Is he?

925
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: I mean they're sticking him at four h five. The

926
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: disrespect for two teams, a team that basically wakes up

927
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: and gets to the NFC Championship Game as long as

928
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: they're healthy, and the forty nine Ers and then Seahawks,

929
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: I just mean they're not getting the four to twenty five.

930
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: There's like there's two national games and they're just they're

931
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: just shuffled over to the side.

932
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: And this is a really one sided rivalry.

933
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: But I don't put much into it because Mike McDonald's

934
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: only been there for a little bit. That said, the

935
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: forty nine ers offense mostly had good days last year,

936
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: even in a year that wasn't good against Mike McDonald.

937
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: So he has Kyle Shanahan some history that Seahawks defense

938
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: is better. But they have to feel better that they're

939
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: getting two really important pieces back on offense. Dominic Pooney,

940
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: their guard who they thought might miss some regular season time,

941
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: has been out there practicing. And then Juan Jennings is

942
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: back at practice after a quietly unsuccessful you know hold in.

943
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 4: Quote unquote, and if you hear Kyle Shanahan's tone of

944
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: voice when he talks about it, the calf injury, you know,

945
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: Calves fickle, you.

946
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: Didn't get any more money in the end. But I

947
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: don't care like that's that's a solid one. Two Jennings

948
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,479
Speaker 1: and pearsall as long as you have Kittle and McCaffrey healthy,

949
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: which they do.

950
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 4: And they do, and I think a lot of the

951
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 4: passing game is gonna to go through those guys. I

952
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 4: think that they're going to especially because they traded for

953
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 4: Brian Robinson Junior. I think they're gonna take a little

954
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 4: of the run workload off of Christian McCaffrey and deploy

955
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 4: him a lot more as a mismatch in the passing game.

956
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 4: They're obviously gonna put a lot of that through George

957
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 4: Kittle as well, another mismatch. And even though Juwan Jennings

958
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 4: is back, which makes you feel better about their depth overall,

959
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,959
Speaker 4: I gotta tell you, guys, this is a Ricky Piersoll show.

960
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 4: This is going to be the Ricky Piersoll show. And

961
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 4: you know what, you can really tell the Beat I

962
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 4: always follow the trend of the Beat writers because they

963
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 4: are always the ones who are like, let's watch, let's

964
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 4: watch every single practice before we write the hype piece

965
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 4: about this guy. This week, all the hype pieces came

966
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 4: out a set of lovely features about Ricky Piersol across

967
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 4: the board and that they've got the local people believing

968
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 4: in him.

969
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 3: And that's great Beat crew up there.

970
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 4: But yeah there, and they're honest. Yeah, I look.

971
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey just changes everything for the forty nine. Yeah,

972
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 5: I mean him being healthy. If he's in, they're getting

973
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 5: Brian Robinson, they're gonna use him like they use a

974
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 5: lot of their other running backs. Well, he'll probably be

975
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 5: the third quarter guy. Right, McCaffrey's gonna wear him out.

976
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 5: Then you're gonna bang them. Get a lead for Brock

977
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 5: and those guys and McCaffrey to to closings out in

978
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter. I do like Seattle to be good

979
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 5: the show. I don't like this match too. I think

980
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 5: they're gonna be a good team this year. I think

981
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 5: their offensive line is better. You know, their run game

982
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 5: they've got. I mean Zach Sharbona looks different. I think

983
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 5: he can end up being the guy more show than

984
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 5: Kenneth Walker, who you can't stay healthy. But I think

985
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 5: overall they're much more balance. I think they're gonna be

986
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 5: a good team, but not not in this game. I

987
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 5: like Sanforancis.

988
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: I I don't know. I have a like Week one

989
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: is funky.

990
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: I'd sometimes ultimate the ultimate non tr right, it's a

991
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: It's a week where I often take teams that, even

992
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: though I predict them to have a worse season, I

993
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: just have him winning this game. This is like a

994
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: home game. I think both teams want to run, and

995
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: both teams will be able to run. But I just

996
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: trust the Seahawks defense. We do a show together, Patrick,

997
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: we do going on I think six or seven years

998
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: now Game Dey View where we pick all the games

999
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: and everyone should check it out on NFL Network on Fridays,

1000
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: So we have to make picks for every game. I

1001
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: picked the Seahawks in this game. I don't I don't

1002
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: feel great about it, but you had to.

1003
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: You got to pick somebody. There's so many things to

1004
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: be up against Rock Party five and one in his

1005
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: career against the Seahawks. He was actually a better quarterback

1006
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: on the road last year than he was at home.

1007
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 3: A lot of that's the schedule. I don't think Rock

1008
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 3: Party like hates or something like that, but it's it's

1009
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 3: a healthier team, uh, with a more clear vision of

1010
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: what they want to do. And yeah, Christian McCaffrey changes everything,

1011
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: makes everything better, like winning.

1012
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 4: But I think this to Greg's put to this defense,

1013
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 4: I think this defense. I know this defense is going

1014
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 4: to be good. I have no doubts, I have no questions.

1015
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 4: I know this defense is going to be good. They finished,

1016
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 4: you know, even in top five points per drive. Even

1017
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 4: through the years, they were still improving, which you could

1018
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 4: see with the Mike McDonald system. You take a couple

1019
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 4: of weeks, a couple months to really get to where

1020
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: you need to be. I am actually more excited than

1021
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 4: I think most about what this Clint Kubiak, you know,

1022
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 4: Gray's Abel, sam Donold Cooper Cup, Jackson Smith and Jigba

1023
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 4: and Robbie outs and.

1024
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: Is a problem.

1025
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 4: I'm so excited to see what these guys do. And

1026
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 4: I would pick because Clint Kubiak came out swinging last

1027
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 4: year too before everything went sideways. I mean, he put

1028
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 4: up near ninety points in the first two games, right,

1029
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 4: So I do think that the Seahawks offense is going

1030
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 4: to surprise people. I really think that it's.

1031
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: One of those things where we have to figure out

1032
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: how much Dennis Allen was a factor in Yeah, yeah,

1033
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 3: how's a fact?

1034
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: And Derek Carr dang Man taking he took funny in

1035
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: this from the studio unfortunately.

1036
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: Let's go to the revenge game. Yesive the Pittsburgh Steelers

1037
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 3: at the New York Jets, who were giving up, who

1038
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: were getting three points the over under that's at home

1039
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 3: by the way, forty seven and a half. Iron Eagle

1040
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 3: and JJ Watt on the call as Aaron Rodgers is

1041
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 3: back in New Jersey, Steve is he gonna play super

1042
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 3: well and make them regret? Ever, crossing him.

1043
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 5: Well, we'll see what Aaron Glenn has to say about that.

1044
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 7: That's been going. So I'm not going to answer questions

1045
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 7: about guys that's not hearing what I saw is right now.

1046
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 7: I'm looking at what our guys can do. So like

1047
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 7: just like I said, Just like I said, I'm not

1048
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 7: gonna sit there and answer questions on what I saw

1049
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 7: back then.

1050
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 3: That does it.

1051
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 7: It's not relevant to right now and street Lingo.

1052
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 5: It's like we got something for that, a for him

1053
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 5: coming back. But look, this is gonna be This could

1054
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 5: be a very fun game. I do not like the

1055
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 5: Jets losing Elija for a Tucker do that injury. I

1056
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 5: think there's a team that wanted to run the ball.

1057
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh's gonna be a tough team to run the ball against.

1058
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 5: But he is a really important part of that offense.

1059
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 5: It's gonna be an RPO driven type of offense with

1060
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 5: Justin Field's playing quarterback. I think that's a big blow

1061
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 5: for the Jets in this game, which is why I

1062
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 5: do like Aaron Rodgers coming back and getting.

1063
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: Some I hate I think you know on the Jets

1064
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: all off season, it just feels like, you know, he's

1065
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: gonna be on the Jets this week, and then you

1066
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: wake up to that Vera Tucker news he was said

1067
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: to be a free agent he still is that he

1068
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: could miss the season, and it just gives you just

1069
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: a bad vibe about like, oh man, is this the

1070
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: same old Jets I do like that on both sides

1071
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: are like, oh no, this couldn't possibly mean anything extra

1072
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: to us, like it's just another game. Like Aaron Rodgers

1073
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: didn't answer anything on Wednesday when he was asked about it,

1074
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, just doesn't mean a little more. He's like

1075
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: it's week one and and do you keep in touch

1076
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: with anyone there? Like I'm not going to comment on that,

1077
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: and Aaron Glenn's saying it's nothing. And then earlier in

1078
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: the week, like it is fascinating to me that Mike

1079
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: Tomlin admitted, you know, it was a mutual decision because

1080
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: he was on the record saying he kind of he

1081
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: wanted Justin Fields back either him or yeah, And it

1082
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: is fascinating to think about the reason he's not back

1083
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: is that the Jets were willing to pay Justin Fields

1084
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: more money than either team was willing to pay Aaron Rodgers.

1085
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: And they can say whatever they want like whoever wins

1086
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: this game, that is absolutely going to be the topic

1087
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: in the locker room after the game of like, you

1088
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: know what, either like Aaron dit stuck it to his

1089
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: old team or Aaron Glenn, you know, got to shut

1090
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: up everyone after kicking Rogers out of the building like.

1091
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 4: He was their third or fourth choice. I mean, if

1092
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 4: you're gonna either combine the two guys that they had

1093
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 4: last year into one choice A and then they you know,

1094
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 4: they went after Stafford a little bit choice B, and

1095
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 4: then they end up with Rogers. And it's so interesting

1096
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 4: to me. I do like this Steelers team because yes,

1097
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 4: I think that the Jets offense is gonna go real

1098
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 4: heavy personnel. They're going to try to move that defensive

1099
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 4: line not only backwards but side to side in heavy

1100
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 4: personnels with heavy run concepts that are going to be

1101
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 4: tough to defend. And that is where our old friend

1102
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey coaching as one of the guys who is still,

1103
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 4: in my opinion, one of the best tackling corners in

1104
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 4: the entire league, one of the best tacklers overall in

1105
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 4: the entire league, and he's gonna be playing either that

1106
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 4: slot role closer to the box in run support against

1107
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 4: a run heavy Jets team that really wants to pop off.

1108
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 4: These two guys, Breescee Hall and Brayln Allen getting a

1109
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 4: lot of buzz in camp with the threat of a

1110
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 4: running quarterback. This is why you bring a guy like

1111
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey into this defense, to give it that edge,

1112
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 4: to give it that teeth in scheme diverse ways.

1113
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: And not just the threat of a quarterback who can run.

1114
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: Because the difference right from rookie year Breeshall and I

1115
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 3: know that there was an injury, but we saw that

1116
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 3: burst when he came back. Yeah, there's no threat of

1117
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers running the football. There's absolutely no threat. And

1118
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 3: to go from that to Justin Fields, it's significant. Despite

1119
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 3: the fact that Justin Fields had a better completion percentage

1120
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 3: than Aaron Rodgers last year, he had a better passer

1121
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 3: rating than Aaron Rodgers last year, and his pass yards

1122
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 3: per attempt were better than Aaron Rodgers last year. And

1123
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: I would make the case that the Steelers offense was

1124
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: not conducive to any of those things. And so now

1125
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: he goes to a new team with a new offensive vision,

1126
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 3: and I have to be convinced to believe that this

1127
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 3: Arthur Smith Aaron Rodgers union is working great, successful and

1128
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 3: and it's gonna take weeks of football to convince me

1129
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 3: of that. I'm not going to say it in week.

1130
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: One, I agree, but Rogers has more to work with

1131
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: in terms of that tight end room is dynamic, and

1132
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 1: the Jets have Garrett Wilson and just a whole lot

1133
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: of question marks, including their their tight end, and that

1134
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: worries me.

1135
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 5: Jude Patrick's point, though, I thought it was very interesting

1136
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 5: that Mike Tomlin said when it comes to Justin Fields,

1137
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 5: he's stronger. He's physically stronger than what anyone gives him

1138
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 5: credit for.

1139
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 3: He's talking about how tough.

1140
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 5: Physically a guy he's a little worried he's planting that

1141
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 5: and his guy's like, when you you can't just tackle

1142
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 5: Justin feels you have to bring a hat on him,

1143
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 5: like they're detailed, knowing that he is a legitimate threat,

1144
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 5: which goes to show you the respect that head coach.

1145
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 2: As how special is the defense.

1146
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: Though, when when Mike Tomlin said that he thinks they

1147
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: could be historic for some reason, I was just like, oh,

1148
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: I guess I was wrong to doubt the Steelers. They're

1149
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: gonna win twelve games. No feeling himself walking by the way,

1150
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: of course he is, Yeah, of course he is.

1151
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 3: They're gonna have to be. Let's go to the Carolina

1152
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 3: Panthers at the Jacksonville Jaguars Chris Myers and Mark Zlaart

1153
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: on the call where the jackson give it up three

1154
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 3: points to the Panthers with an over under of forty

1155
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 3: six and a half. We get a chance to see

1156
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter for the first time in his NFL career.

1157
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 5: Steve, Yeah, this is the week one thing right here, like, okay,

1158
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 5: this is the ultimate tossip game. We'll see you know

1159
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 5: what Liam Cohen has You know, the two guys who

1160
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield got jobs for He's no god, that's right.

1161
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

1162
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 5: Two guys who Baker Mayfield got head coaching jobs going

1163
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 5: up against one another right here. I'm interested because Jacksonville's

1164
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 5: got you know, on paper, they've got a lot of talent,

1165
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,439
Speaker 5: especially defense. I love the guys on the defensive front.

1166
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 5: No one talks about hind Taalen, especially Travon Walker. I mean,

1167
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 5: these are double digit sack guys, but these are hollow

1168
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 5: stats because they're not winning ball games to see if

1169
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 5: they're gonna be able to get after Bryce Yaw. I

1170
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 5: think Carolina is improved. I think Jacksonville on paper, is

1171
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 5: a better team. And yes we get to see Travis Hunter.

1172
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 5: He's gonna play mainly wide receiver, spot him at corner. Well, see,

1173
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 5: I do like Jacksonville in this game at home. But

1174
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 5: again it's a week one non truth teller.

1175
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do our pick show every Friday, and you're saying,

1176
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: like you think it's as coin flippy a game as

1177
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: there is. I really like the Jaguars, and this is

1178
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: what I'm looking at here. I even was thinking about

1179
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: because the Survivor picks are tricky, But then I'm like,

1180
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: am I my believing my own hype? It's not Actually,

1181
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: they haven't actually proven anything. I think the Jaguars could

1182
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: be a sneaky playoff team. I agree, I am believing

1183
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: my own hype when it comes to Hunter, though, I

1184
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: do think that they've been playing a little Oakie doke, like,

1185
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: keeping him a little under wraps all the plans for him.

1186
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: And week one we get some.

1187
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: We get some like Odell Beckham once he gets back

1188
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 1: from the hamstring injury as a rookie just or RG

1189
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: three in week one where suddenly like Kyle Shanahan and

1190
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: just like unveiled it. And I don't know what exactly

1191
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter could do, like maybe parachutes in it or

1192
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: whatever like to play on, but I don't know what

1193
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: exactly they would do. But I just think we're getting

1194
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: full Hunter week one in a way that we haven't

1195
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 1: really understood.

1196
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 4: Well. It's a good pick, Greg, because Carolina's defense is

1197
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 4: so untrustworthy. We know this. Even with Derek Brown being

1198
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 4: healthy and being back and pairing Bobby Brown, which is

1199
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 4: his prerogative next to him, I'm there, we go, thank you,

1200
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: thank you. Thirty three years old, guys still did it.

1201
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 4: So and then j C. Horn having, you know, kind

1202
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 4: of stacking up a relatively healthy season that he had

1203
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 4: last season, stack of dollars, yeah, and massive payday this offseason.

1204
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 4: It's still such an untrustworthy defense. I also want to

1205
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 4: point out kind of a sneaky but really important injury

1206
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 4: that happened kind of went under the radar with the

1207
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 4: Panthers this last week. Jalen Coker is gonna miss four

1208
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 4: to six weeks at least. He suffered a quad injury

1209
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 4: in practice right after they traded Adam Thielen to the Vikings.

1210
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 4: That's a thin receiver's room. Without him, they're going to rely,

1211
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 4: I think, a little bit on the tight ends in

1212
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 4: the short term. But he was supposed to be like

1213
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 4: their slot guy. He had a fan base with a

1214
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 4: really cool.

1215
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 3: Name, Yeah, the Cokett.

1216
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 4: I'm glad he's the playmates the fan he's the winner

1217
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 4: of the fan base name.

1218
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna you know, his replacement is one

1219
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: of Patrick's sneaky favorite players. I feel like over the

1220
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: last five or six years, Hunter Renfro, they're calling up

1221
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: the practice squad right to the starting lineup.

1222
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 4: He also has been recovering from a pretty serious illness.

1223
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 4: Though I don't know how much he's gonna play.

1224
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: Right They said he's starting out of the slot receiver

1225
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: now that now that Cooker is gone.

1226
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 3: But it shows like how how fickled depth can be,

1227
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 3: where you can go from being very confident in a

1228
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 3: unit to the extent that you're trading Adam Thielen and

1229
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 3: he's taking a pay cut to pay to play for

1230
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 3: the Vikings to now it's like, oh, well, a.

1231
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 4: Week ago, you know what's kind of funny though Joe

1232
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 4: person might colleagu get the Athletic reported this, So Hunter

1233
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 4: Renfro they cut him, and then they tried to and

1234
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 4: they cut him and he had like the vet minimum

1235
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 4: payout for the time spent there, and then they tried

1236
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 4: then they tried to resign him. After all of this happened,

1237
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 4: he negotiated like a significant pay bump.

1238
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 2: There it is come back.

1239
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 4: Because of course he did, because are like.

1240
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, price, that's amazing today's price.

1241
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: This is a matchup, by the way, at least in

1242
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: terms of the head coaches or in the coordinators that

1243
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: we did see last year because Liam Cohen as the

1244
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: coordinator for the Bucks put on about a thousand total

1245
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: yards on the Panthers.

1246
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 2: And everyone, I mean I know everyone. It worked out well.

1247
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: And then this game just existing reminded me Jeddevian Clowney

1248
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: isn't in the league, Like, where is Jeddevion Clowney. He's

1249
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: got to be able to help some team post Week one?

1250
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: In Week two, let's take a quick break. We did

1251
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: a good job. As much as I'm fine with a

1252
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: two hour plus show because we are the best preview

1253
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: show in the business.

1254
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 2: We did pick up the pace quite a bit. We

1255
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 2: will be back.

1256
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: We're back on NFL Daily. Greg mentioned it. We're at

1257
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 3: a good place, so I'm going to throw in time wise,

1258
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw in a personal anecdote involving a player

1259
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 3: we mentioned last week on the show, and that is

1260
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 3: Matt Jones of Arkansas Fame, one of the most electrifying

1261
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 3: athletes that we've ever seen. I was at the Troy

1262
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 3: Versus Marshall game and paying attention to the Alabama Arkansas game,

1263
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 3: which was going into overtime, and I thought to myself,

1264
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 3: you know what, I don't care what happens in Tuscaloosa.

1265
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 3: I am a Troy Trojan. Yeah. I fully committed to

1266
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 3: this team and that was it for the rest of

1267
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 3: my life. And this next game makes me think about this, George,

1268
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 3: because Gino Smith and the Las Vegas Raiders, Greg Rosenthal's

1269
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 3: New England Patriots, who he is slowly starting to believe in.

1270
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 3: The Patriots giving up three points he over under is

1271
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: forty two and a half. Spirodida is Adam Archiletta on

1272
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 3: the call in Jordan. What is the battle for Greg

1273
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 3: Rosenthal's heart?

1274
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 4: It's the Greg Rosenthal Bowl.

1275
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: I love it.

1276
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 4: So much. Greg admitted to us the other day Steve

1277
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 4: on the show that he is back to being a

1278
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 4: Patriots fan.

1279
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 3: As he should be.

1280
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 2: I'm testing the water, he used the word.

1281
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 4: He used the word we to describe them.

1282
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm not going all the way. I'm more of a

1283
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: Drake may guy than a Mike Brabile guy. Is pretty strong,

1284
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: I will admit, because one thing I've done to feel

1285
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: a little more emotionally free is we assigned the games

1286
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: out on Sundays because we all covered.

1287
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 4: Meaning you specifically.

1288
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean.

1289
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: The previous podcasts around the NFL and NFL Daily. We

1290
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: sign out games and I generally don't take the Patriots.

1291
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't even watch them live. I mean I am

1292
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: definitely watching Drake.

1293
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 2: You know, there's no I don't know how.

1294
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 3: Greg if Gino it takes an.

1295
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 5: L though we were talking about that sounds without Christian

1296
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 5: Gonzales on the Patriots.

1297
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: My perfect result, and yes, Christian Gonzales looks very questionable.

1298
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: My perfect result would be, yeah, forty one to thirty seven,

1299
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: both quarterbacks look incredible.

1300
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 2: And the Patriots get a win.

1301
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 4: That that's my perfect and the Patriots get the win.

1302
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not becoming a Raiders fan. I mean, I

1303
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: will know.

1304
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 4: I'm just gauging how all in you've become. Suddenly you

1305
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 4: know you're back. He's all the way back. You never left.

1306
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 4: But I think you.

1307
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: Don't know lately.

1308
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 3: You don't know until it's the third quarter. It's a

1309
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: three point game and Gino has cut loose a beautiful

1310
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 3: looking same ball, and in your heart you decide whether

1311
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 3: or not you want Dante Thornton Junior to catch the ball.

1312
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,479
Speaker 1: I'll have mixed feelings, and I do think suddenly after

1313
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: adding Cooper, like, okay, now they've got some depth because

1314
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: you mentioned Dante Thornton, this this rookie who I think

1315
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: is still going to start. It really sounds like he's

1316
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: going to play a lot. And they'll just mix Cooper in.

1317
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: And they basically have four receivers including Jacoby Myers that

1318
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: they like and will play plenty to the added to

1319
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: the two tight ends that they love. Yeah, added to

1320
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: Ashton Jenny and yeah, I'm really high operators.

1321
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 4: I've been saying this. I know I sound insane to

1322
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,439
Speaker 4: some people, but the defense, the defense is untrustworthy right now,

1323
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 4: and very a lot of guys that they've got to

1324
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 4: coach up obviously, but like, this offense is going to

1325
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 4: score points and I would love to see that. I

1326
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,959
Speaker 4: think brock Bauers already had such an incredible rookie season.

1327
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 4: He is the perfect do it all weapon for Geno Smith.

1328
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 4: Any type of throw which Gino can make, any type

1329
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 4: of throw, any type of pass he throws. Brock Bauers

1330
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 4: can run any type of route. He can be anywhere

1331
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 4: in the stack. Outside of it. They can use Michael

1332
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 4: Meyer as well now as a sort of that twelve

1333
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 4: personnel look that can maybe give some defenses some trouble.

1334
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 4: They can run the ball. I just I'm so excited

1335
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 4: about this this Raiders team to the point where I'm like,

1336
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,479
Speaker 4: I'm checking on myself a little bit. I'm like, hey, Jordan,

1337
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 4: are you okay?

1338
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 2: This is this the team, you know?

1339
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: Because the other the other category we were going to

1340
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: throw out was team nobody's picking to make the playoffs.

1341
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 4: That they could, Oh yeah, I could. I could see

1342
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 4: them making the playoffs. A lot of other stuff has

1343
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 4: to go wrong injury wise for other teams in the

1344
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 4: AFC West, But.

1345
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: Carroll's got to do a hell of a coaching job

1346
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: on DEEF. I mean, They've got good defensive Patrick Graham.

1347
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 5: But on the inside they've got issues or linebackers are

1348
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 5: all like one year, one year guys all productive, the

1349
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 5: Orlando Roberts of the world, but they're all one and

1350
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 5: their secondary is an issue. But I'm gonna I'm gonna

1351
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 5: go Patrick to this lane. We talked about Greg Rosenthal. Okay,

1352
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 5: I'm gonna dredge up somebody stuff you brought up.

1353
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: Okay.

1354
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick used to coach doing the Patriots, Tom Brady's

1355
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 5: with the Raiders. Now I woulda pose this to you

1356
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 5: because here's something people are not talking about. This is

1357
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 5: why we're a smart show. Bill Belichick, now the head

1358
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 5: coach University of North Carolina, is eligible for the Pro

1359
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 5: Football Hall of Fame. This year, there was a rule

1360
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 5: change where head coaches only have to be out one

1361
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 5: season before they are eligible to go into the Pro

1362
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 5: Football Hall of Fame. If those Tar Heels continue to

1363
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 5: get beat like they did, right, do you think selectors,

1364
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 5: the fifty selectors might be like.

1365
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 3: Hm, maybe it was Tom Brady. Does it diminish the

1366
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 3: seven Super Bowls?

1367
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 4: Right?

1368
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 5: Because here's the other twist to this, Patrick. If Bill

1369
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 5: doesn't get in first ballot. You know who's already been eligible,

1370
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 5: and then who's eligible in two years. Robert Kraft has

1371
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:06,919
Speaker 5: been eligible, Tom Brady's eligible in two years. What about

1372
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 5: the scenario we are they all going together.

1373
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 3: Hold him off. I don't think that happens. I think

1374
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 3: the group of people in that room that had a

1375
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 3: bunch of counterproductive and pointless arguments over Terrell Owens for

1376
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 3: years are the same.

1377
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 2: Years, one year, one year. You only have to wait one.

1378
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 3: But he had to wait the one year. But the

1379
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 3: conversations Marvin extended. Yeah, and so I don't think that

1380
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 3: those vapid discussions are going to take place after you know,

1381
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 3: TCUs right up and down the field constantly for Bill Belichick,

1382
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 3: you know, and I don't necessarily think they should. When

1383
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 3: you initially started that, I was wondering if you were

1384
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 3: saying Bill Belichick's gonna be if things don't go good

1385
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 3: for people, Belick's gonna be in Las Vegas.

1386
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 1: That is definitely not happening. I'm glad you pointed that out.

1387
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: And I know you know we're previewing this game, but

1388
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: people don't understand these Hall of Fame rules, and you're

1389
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: our Hall of Fame guy, and I really follow it.

1390
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 2: I'm into it, and I'm into Belichick.

1391
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know that that rule was a thing either,

1392
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: because if he is eligible, I think it's safe to

1393
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: say he's not getting the job as a head coach

1394
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL most like, you know, it's it's very

1395
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: unlikely that that's gonna happen ever, in my opinion, and

1396
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: I would think the writers would agree with me there.

1397
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, what are we doing with the Hall

1398
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: of Fame without Bill Belichick making it the first time

1399
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: he's eligible?

1400
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 3: He should be getting in. There's a lot of people

1401
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 3: waiting on him, though. I'd like that. Mike Holmgren, Mike

1402
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 3: Shanahan there, they're on the cost.

1403
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: I'd love it if him and Brady went the same

1404
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: year because what about him and Robert Kraft. Not only

1405
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: would Canton never be like more obnoxious, but I would

1406
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: save me one trip because I'm going, I'm going, if

1407
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: do you think they would?

1408
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 4: They would sit them all at the same table together.

1409
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:43,919
Speaker 3: They they're fine, they'd be bigger, They're doing fine. Party

1410
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 3: would be awesome.

1411
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 4: The fun Diggs is expected to play. I know there

1412
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 4: was like some murkyiness about that, but I expect him

1413
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 4: based on what I saw practice against the Vikings when

1414
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 4: they had joint practices, I expect him to be like

1415
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 4: kind of an outlet option, a slot guy underneath option,

1416
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 4: especially when Drake Macy's pressure. And you guys already know

1417
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 4: I'm super high on Trevion Henderson.

1418
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 5: I think he's oh yeah, right, the patriotar sneaky team.

1419
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 2: I worry with Christian Gonzales very unlikely to play.

1420
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you deeply personally worried.

1421
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like Mike Rable got very annoyed when there was

1422
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: a follow up question on Christian Gonzalez and he said,

1423
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean, guys, please use your time as efficiently as

1424
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: we can about telling them what to do. So to

1425
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: ask these questions like Christian Gonzalez kind of matters. He's

1426
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: literally the best player on the team. I would say

1427
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: Drake may is the most important, but at this point

1428
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: he's the best.

1429
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you're gonna have to have a lot of points.

1430
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: Trevon Henderson matched up against like Jermaine Pratt or Devin

1431
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: White or Landon Roberts.

1432
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 3: Let's say this though, they still got it to the most.

1433
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 4: And let me reiterate my belief in the Raiders means

1434
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 4: that they have to score the points that I expect

1435
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 4: him to score to score.

1436
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 3: But defensively, there is something to be said for scouting

1437
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 3: the potential future. Because Patrick Graham ran all that covered

1438
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 3: three last year. Who better to hire? Uh oh no

1439
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 3: here and so he comes in and one of the

1440
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 3: few got the stuff.

1441
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniel's revenge game. Didn't even think. There's a lot

1442
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: going on here.

1443
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 3: That's more revenge for the for the Raiders. Let's go

1444
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 3: to the Cincinnati Bengals at the Cleveland Browns, who were

1445
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 3: getting six points the over unders forty seven should and

1446
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 3: a half. Kevin Coogler Darryl Johnson on the call, as

1447
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 3: Greg the Bengals have said they're going to try harder

1448
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 3: at the start of the season. We saw Joe Burrow

1449
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 3: and Jamar Chase inexplicably playing in a preseason.

1450
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 2: He wanted to, and they have stunk early.

1451
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 3: It made sense, so it's better there are this six

1452
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 3: points is not an issue.

1453
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the Browns to cover that just

1454
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: based on that could win. You know, it's a it's

1455
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: a division game and in this particular matchup, and these

1456
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: coaches have both been there a while. In general, Kevin Stefanski,

1457
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: considering the talent that he's had, has gotten the better

1458
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: of this matchup. Even last year, where with this UH

1459
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: Bengals offense humming, there was there was one game where

1460
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: they had four teen points and twelve first downs, is

1461
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: pretty much their worst offensive game of the year, and

1462
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: it was right in the middle of the season.

1463
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 2: There was there was no like Jim Schwartz and the Browns.

1464
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: I think media are at least hopeful and people do

1465
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,479
Speaker 1: forget this that they could go back to a couple

1466
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: of years ago when they turned the ball over quite

1467
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: a bit the other team and Ward and Garrett are

1468
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: at the very top of their game. They love Carson

1469
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: Schwestern here and that this is a top ten, top

1470
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: five type of defense that is their route to just

1471
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: being a pain. And I think it's like a sneaky

1472
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: big game for both teams really, but especially the Browns

1473
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: because man, their schedule is absolutely brutal.

1474
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 2: After this game, it's.

1475
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 3: A bigger game for Cincinnati. I mean, they they've got

1476
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 3: to get out of the gate.

1477
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 5: Like you said, they played Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase

1478
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 5: and all their starters early and they just can't afford

1479
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 5: to get too far behind the Steelers.

1480
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: If after all that, I hear that, if after all

1481
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: that they lose to the Browns in Week one, Italy,

1482
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: pretty big litt.

1483
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's it's Week one again, the great

1484
01:06:58,600 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 3: not truth teller.

1485
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 5: I'm with you. Think the Brons who covered the sixth.

1486
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 5: I think it's good. And their their rookie tailbacks they

1487
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 5: got in Cleveland. Dylan Shampton at Tennessee. Mm hm, he's

1488
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 5: a player to watch. He's a fun, spectacular player. He'll

1489
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 5: be the backup to Jero and Ford, but we'll see

1490
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 5: a lot of him, so you know, we'll see I

1491
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 5: like Cleveland to cover, like the Bengals to win, you know.

1492
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: Little tra little Trey Hendrickson.

1493
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Shamar Stewart versus pretty shaky offensive tackles. Jack Conklin,

1494
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: like was coming off a big injury last year, Dwan Jones.

1495
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: They did get their center back Ethan Posted. Yes, who

1496
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: was hurt in the preseason, Daniel Jeremiah and I argued

1497
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: a lot about Mason Graham all this this is a matchup.

1498
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: Show me, Mason Graham, because you're going up against either

1499
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: some backup.

1500
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 2: Level players or hurt players. And if Lucas Patrick starts.

1501
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: They just signed Dalton Reisner, who might immediately start for them,

1502
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: So like, let's let's see it.

1503
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 4: I feel like we're getting to the point in that

1504
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 4: by the way, because I listened to the forties and

1505
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 4: free agents, and we're getting the point in that banter

1506
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 4: where he is about to send you cutups of this

1507
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:06,439
Speaker 4: player every single game, like it goes like an ISO cam.

1508
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 4: It's every single game.

1509
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, if it goes well, and if it does not,

1510
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 3: considering the talent that was available and the decisions of

1511
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 3: the Browns made, that could be a huge one looming

1512
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 3: for the future of that franchise. Decision. Yeah, No, it's

1513
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 3: generally good. Everything's generally good with the Cleveland Browns. To

1514
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 3: get a chance to send Joe Flacco back out there

1515
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 3: and go get some buckets. What's the worst that could happen? Right,

1516
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 3: you get a chance to have Joe air it out

1517
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 3: one last time. I support almost everybody.

1518
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 5: Here's the worst that can happen? Taking your duty and

1519
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 5: fantasy football this week. He's going hard in this game.

1520
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: The worst that can happen is you lose this game

1521
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: by a decent amount and then you're facing next week

1522
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: where you go to the Baltimore Ravens thirtieth franchise anniversary celebration,

1523
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: and Joe Flacco is over their start for the Browns

1524
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: as the Ravens like parade up and down the field

1525
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: about the franchise that they stole from your town. That's

1526
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 1: the worst.

1527
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 3: Let's go to the New York Giants at the Washington Commanders,

1528
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 3: who are giving up six points the over under forty

1529
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 3: five and a half. Kevin Burkhardt, some dude named Tom,

1530
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 3: and Aaron Andrews on the call along with Tom Ronaldi

1531
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 3: as Steve. We've had a chance to see Jaden Daniels

1532
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 3: the inaugural season. What's your two look like? It's I

1533
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 3: think he's gonna be fantastic. You know, you got Terry McLaurin.

1534
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 3: This is a tough game, though, because that Giants defense

1535
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 3: is no joke.

1536
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 5: Yes, they are loaded on defense, and I think they

1537
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 5: may end up being in more games. You know, Russ

1538
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 5: is not going to turn the ball over. This is

1539
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 5: the fact there's six right here. The Giants are plus

1540
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 5: sick and six points is a lot to me.

1541
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 3: I think this is going to be a very very

1542
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 3: close opener.

1543
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 5: Give me a lot of excitement overall, Washington's gonna be

1544
01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 5: a very good football team. But this is going to

1545
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 5: be much more of a toss up than the points

1546
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 5: spread would show you.

1547
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 2: Well, last year they would have covered that number in

1548
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 2: both games.

1549
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: If if you think back to their games last year,

1550
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: the first was like kind of the classic Washington game.

1551
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 1: I don't think they got stopped once the whole game,

1552
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,600
Speaker 1: but they just went up and down the field on

1553
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: the Giants and just kicked field goal after field goal.

1554
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: But both those games against the Giants were close, and

1555
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: it was typical just Cliff and Jayden just just nickel

1556
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: and diming them to death, but shortening the game for

1557
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: both sides really and it kept it close where both

1558
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: games came down to the fourth quarter. And that matchup,

1559
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, if you're the Giants, you're thinking about Abdul

1560
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 1: Carter and Brian Burns and you're thinking about him going up.

1561
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 1: This is why you get Laromy Tunzel. But on the

1562
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 1: other side, it's going to be a rookie Josh Connerly,

1563
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 1: and you hope you can you can win that matchup.

1564
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're still missing you know, it's it's a

1565
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 4: reshuffled line and Josh Connerly is going to have a

1566
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 4: big test, especially because they can rotate guys in Cavon

1567
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,600
Speaker 4: Thibodeau is still going to come and step into some

1568
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 4: of those those rush packages. And oh, by the way,

1569
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 4: one of the best players in football is right in

1570
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 4: the middle wreaking havoc, you know, Dexter Dexter Laurn. So

1571
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 4: it's but I will say the Giants actually are one

1572
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 4: of my teams that are kind of sneaking up on

1573
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 4: me as I'm starting to get really excited about and

1574
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 4: optimistic about, because I do think they're going to go

1575
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 4: to Jackson Dart early. I think that they Brian Dable

1576
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 4: is going to sort of show his work and really

1577
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 4: want to show that he's a quarterback developer. It's part

1578
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 4: of the reason he got this job in the first place,

1579
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 4: for his work with Josh Allen, and I think that

1580
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 4: it's kind of something the fan base is going to

1581
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 4: want to get behind. But I think that there's other

1582
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 4: players in this offense now that might be able to

1583
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 4: be unlocked if they just get a little more stability

1584
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 4: up front. Theo Johnson is back at practice. He had

1585
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 4: a mysterious injury right and they have not disclosed to

1586
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 4: reporters up there. What it was or why he was

1587
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 4: why he was away, might find out more about that

1588
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 4: later this week, but I just think he's on the

1589
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 4: verge of a true breakout season as someone who could

1590
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 4: be so friendly to a young quarterback. If that young

1591
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:56,919
Speaker 4: quarterback takes.

1592
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 3: Over, there's over on the other side. Because I know

1593
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 3: we're excited about the front of the New York Giants,

1594
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 3: but a lot goes on Javon Holland's shoulders to come

1595
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 3: in and kind of heal this problem with that was

1596
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 3: not paying Xavier McKinney. And then the twenty twenty four

1597
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 3: Giants go out there and allow fifty nine point one

1598
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 3: percent of their deep passes to be complete and not good.

1599
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 3: That was That's the worst in the history of the

1600
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 3: next Gen stats era. It was the worst. And so

1601
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 3: they addressed that. They go get Javon Holland, get a

1602
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 3: veteran presence back there, but it feels like it's all

1603
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 3: on him. And I know that they get a lot

1604
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 3: of pressure up front, but to start off against this

1605
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 3: Jayden and Terry duo where you're gonna you're gonna test

1606
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 3: their deep pass defense at some point.

1607
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 4: Deebo Samuel's there. I saw him going deep, Terry. I

1608
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 4: was at practice and Deebo Samuel was getting sent on

1609
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 4: go balls down the field.

1610
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: I am curious if they're gonna let Jayden throw the

1611
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 1: ball ball or if he wants to throw the ball

1612
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: more deep, because on a per throw basis, he was

1613
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: one of the best in the league last year, but

1614
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,799
Speaker 1: he threw I think deep less than almost any quarterback

1615
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: that played football.

1616
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 3: It's just we remember every deep pass because they essentially

1617
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 3: want games.

1618
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 4: And that's Cliff. That's Cliff. Cliff is going to still

1619
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 4: run just as much twelve personnel led the league last year.

1620
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 4: Zach Ertz and John Bates blocking on the backside there.

1621
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 4: They are absolutely going to still run this Cliff Kingsbury system,

1622
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 4: the tight ends. It's always struck me, by the way,

1623
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 4: guys historians in here, how funny that is that Cliff Kingsbury,

1624
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 4: the spread pioneer, you know, no tight ends, four receivers,

1625
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 4: is now running more twelve personnel than anyone else in

1626
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 4: the league.

1627
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 2: He's adaptable.

1628
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 3: Anthony Lynn is on his yes, and he's a clip

1629
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 3: no more free rush, no it teach.

1630
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: And by the way, our guy Bill Yeah, pil Merritt

1631
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: met Alabama Bay he's freaking out. They're freaking out fantasy

1632
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 1: owners that he was listed as fourth on the depth chart.

1633
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: I do think fantasy guys are are getting a little

1634
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: over their skis with Bill Early. They look like depending

1635
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: on the will saying like, it could be a lot,

1636
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: it could be a little. I don't think he's just

1637
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: like an auto play right him free fantasy advice.

1638
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 3: That'd really be something that they tried Brian Robinson Jr.

1639
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 3: And then they just no.

1640
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 2: They like the other guys and the roster too.

1641
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 1: Whenever you know Austin Eckler, I would guess we'll have

1642
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: the most snaps of any of them.

1643
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 3: We'll see you're up.

1644
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 2: You spent some time, Yeah, he actually has.

1645
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 3: I would tell you this. The rookie Jaylen Lane wide

1646
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 3: receiver too out of Rginia techck they love.

1647
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 2: He's probably their slot.

1648
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna get a lot of action too. Let's

1649
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 3: go to an offense at home. They were probably not

1650
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 3: as excited about. The New Orleans Saints are playing host

1651
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 3: of the Arizona Cardinals, who are getting out six and

1652
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 3: a half points on the road in the Superdome over

1653
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,759
Speaker 3: under forty two and a half. Tom McCarthy Ross Talker

1654
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 3: and Logan Ryan on the call. Jordan, we have learned more.

1655
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 3: I don't even know if I can call them the

1656
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 3: search bar anymore. No Cardinals defense, but I'm glad. I'm

1657
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 3: glad they've graduated to just the Arizona Cardinals defense and

1658
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 3: they start against Spencer Rattler in the Saints.

1659
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm glad. The order kind of came around to

1660
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 4: me to once again talk about how much I like

1661
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 4: the Cardinals this year. I like how they run their defense.

1662
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 4: I like that you could see them guessing you back.

1663
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 2: To being a Cardinals fan, like I'm back to be

1664
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 2: in the Patriots.

1665
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 4: The difference is that even though I grew up in Arizona,

1666
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 4: I was never a Cardinals fan. They were playing in

1667
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 4: Arizona State Stadium when I was growing up. You know,

1668
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 4: I mean, shout out to Pat Tillman.

1669
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 2: I mean, your sister is right. She's a Cardinals fan.

1670
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,560
Speaker 4: She's a diehard Cardinals fan. But she also did not

1671
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 4: know who Trey McBride was. So you know, you win some,

1672
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 4: you win some, you lose them. She's a brilliant scientist, folks,

1673
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 4: but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna ask her who

1674
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,719
Speaker 4: different players are, But yeah, I love how this defense

1675
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 4: has the potential to really come along. They've improved steadily

1676
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 4: every year last in the league and EPA per play

1677
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three. Last year there about midway through

1678
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 4: the league inn EPY, they beefed up their front. They're

1679
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 4: gonna try to either and a manufacturer more pass rush,

1680
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 4: b get more naturally, and then they're also going to

1681
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 4: keep moving some of these like joker type players that

1682
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 4: they have to help manufacture more of that pressure. And

1683
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 4: on the offensive side, I mean, it's still the Trey

1684
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 4: McBride show, but they really are expecting more out of

1685
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior in terms of his understanding of the offense,

1686
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 4: his chemistry and timing with Kyler Murray, and they're really

1687
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 4: really expecting him to take a step forward in year two.

1688
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 5: Well, they might want to set him up to do well.

1689
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 5: Then he was a first round draft pick. He's a

1690
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 5: potential superstar player, So.

1691
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 4: Help the offense runs through the tight end. Though that's

1692
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 4: Drew Petsing. It's a Kubiak system.

1693
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 5: Like, uh yeah, I've seen some Kubiak systems also, you know,

1694
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 5: like Andre Johnson, Dona Houston with Kerry Kubyak.

1695
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 3: Was coaching on it was pretty good. Look, Arizona is

1696
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 3: my survivor. There, it is there, it is Jordan love

1697
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 3: it Arizona. This game here.

1698
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 5: You know the Saints again, this might be a weak one,

1699
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 5: not truth teller, because you look at the starting lineups,

1700
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 5: their front line guys all the way across as can't

1701
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 5: sustain an injury.

1702
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 3: There's no big play. Well there's some big place because

1703
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 3: they got at speed a y receiver.

1704
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,839
Speaker 5: But I just think Arizona with the with the momentum,

1705
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 5: they've potentially set the States to develop.

1706
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 3: This is a good way to kick it off.

1707
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: Like a lot a lave Shaheed and Kamara is a

1708
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 1: nice group. Like, it's not much worse. If it is

1709
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 1: worse then Harrison Brandon Connor, for instance, I would take

1710
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: the Cardinal's side to be to be clear, I think

1711
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: it's like more diverse. But I just mean if you

1712
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: lined up those three, for instance, with other top three

1713
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: skill guys, like, there is a lot to like they

1714
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 1: this The Saints team is going to go as their

1715
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: offensive line goes because they've invested pick after pick after pick,

1716
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: and Kelvin Banks looks pretty good as a rookie but

1717
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: who knows. But in training camp and in the preseason,

1718
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: I don't think they got immediate results from them looking

1719
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: like a cohesive group. And if it's not an above

1720
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: average offensive line like Spencer Ratler is gonna have no

1721
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 1: chance in this game and in most games. And uh,

1722
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: I just I just hope for more for for the Saints.

1723
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm not willing it's home. Well, I want them to

1724
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 1: get a one pick. Yeah, I want them to.

1725
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 4: Be competitive from you like every third, Well.

1726
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: But that's that's like it's like the Patriots probably got more.

1727
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: Like no one is more critical than than than a

1728
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: fan of their own team, you know what I mean.

1729
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 1: And then they're not my own team.

1730
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,719
Speaker 4: But sing yourself into a corner here, Greg.

1731
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore and Gannon, you know, the two men who

1732
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 1: both had their lives changed by Nick Sirianni.

1733
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 3: All thanks, all thanks going to Nick uh and the

1734
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 3: players which I think had a significant role for both

1735
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 3: of them. I think considering the way Tulisi Fuaga started

1736
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 3: last season, especially on the ground, I know a lot

1737
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 3: of fantasy managers are fading Alvin Americas. They don't have

1738
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 3: a lot of belief in the Saints offense. But in general,

1739
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 3: I think they will be committed to the run, especially

1740
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 3: considering what Kellen Moore was able to see last year

1741
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 3: in the run game. I think they start out pounding

1742
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 3: the rock and maybe keep this a little bit closer

1743
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 3: than that.

1744
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,560
Speaker 2: I agree in Week one, when a Week one a

1745
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 2: home team being that big of a in the dome

1746
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 2: too at.

1747
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 4: Home field, I am interested to see the crowd at

1748
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 4: this one too, after a couple really depressing years.

1749
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 3: They'll be out at this one. Yeah, they will be

1750
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 3: their stand up and get Cronk and all they gotta

1751
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 3: do is flash up a picture of Dennis Allen if

1752
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 3: they want to fire up in the CN But the

1753
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 3: third straight, I don't know what I'm gonna stop.

1754
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 5: Let's go to our last game, the Tennessee Titans and

1755
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 5: the number one overall pick.

1756
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to the NFL camp. Here is the reigning

1757
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 3: defensive player, a very good Denver Broncos defense in Denver,

1758
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 3: the Broncos giving up seven and a half points the

1759
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 3: over under forty one and a half out of the mean,

1760
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 3: and Mark Sanchez on the call, Greg want to welcome

1761
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 3: to the NFL.

1762
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,839
Speaker 1: This is it is so unfair and I am hopeful

1763
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,719
Speaker 1: that even if he doesn't have like a great game

1764
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 1: in an almost impossible situation, I think they're under man

1765
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 1: in terms of the talent around cam Ward and then

1766
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 1: certainly schematically having to deal with whatever is coming his

1767
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 1: way from a veteran defense who added great pieces but

1768
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: already could do so much. Like even if it goes

1769
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: really poorly, and I do think it will, that he

1770
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: just has a couple like Sports Center highlight, you know

1771
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,679
Speaker 1: NFL game, but like moments where you're just like, wow,

1772
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: that was cam word. So I'm gonna enjoy watching those

1773
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 1: great highlights in a totally one sided game. And that's

1774
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,799
Speaker 1: why I'm taking the Broncos as my survivor.

1775
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 3: Oh think what I mean this.

1776
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 5: You look at the Broncos had potentially, you know, in

1777
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 5: some areas of top top rank defense Vans Joseph. Then

1778
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 5: they add two HUFA Dre Greenlaw, They signed Zach Allen

1779
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 5: to the long term deal. You know, they draft, you know,

1780
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 5: they come out of the draft and they get why

1781
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 5: am I playing with the rookie out of curious others

1782
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 5: to use him.

1783
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's gonna find a way on the field.

1784
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 5: So maybe not this game because they're not gonna have

1785
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 5: to play much Nickel or Diamond.

1786
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 3: We'll see, But I mean, this defense is too good

1787
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 3: and the Bonix is a real toual, So you know me,

1788
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 3: I'm you know what I do.

1789
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 4: I loved it too, Steve, because last year I loved

1790
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 4: watching his ascension. Last year, you were pretty on quarterback Island.

1791
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 4: You were pretty early on arguing for Bonis, and I'm

1792
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 4: expecting him to take another step forward into this second season,

1793
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 4: getting used to the weapons around him, getting.

1794
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 3: More, getting RJ Harvey in the around him.

1795
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 4: RJ Harvey's Sean Payton loves r J Harvey and this defense.

1796
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 4: You know, Mike Tomlin's talking about historic defense. I think

1797
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 4: Denver Broncos have a shot at being an historic defense

1798
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 4: this season.

1799
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: The Titans are going to need to manufacture some pass

1800
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:36,560
Speaker 1: rush too, because they just don't have a lot of

1801
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 1: like one on one pass rush winners. I think they're

1802
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if excited is the right word, but

1803
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 1: optimistic that Lagarious need is back in practicing fully, that

1804
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: they like their top three corners overall, that they feel

1805
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,839
Speaker 1: like they found something there and who was it Brownlee

1806
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: in the secondary last year and McCreary's a good nickel

1807
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: they brought in, my guy finally got a job. Kayzie

1808
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: or White is back in the end all and is

1809
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: like immediately the best linebacker on that team. Like they're

1810
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: going to use their rookie wide receivers. But this is

1811
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,839
Speaker 1: the definition of like a rebuilding team.

1812
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 3: Yes, against the team that is pushing towards an opportunity

1813
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 3: to trying to make a run in the in the postseason.

1814
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:18,560
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what things are going to be

1815
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 3: like for Evan Ingram in this offense, and I know

1816
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 3: he point and they're going to absorb a lot of

1817
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 3: targets and maybe we won't see a fully operational Broncos.

1818
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 3: They may they may not need it more. The Titans

1819
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 3: could come out in shock us. Why not on it's

1820
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 3: Week one? Could happen in Week one.

1821
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 1: I never I don't think anyone should ever feel good

1822
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: about any pick in Week No one survivor or anything,

1823
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: but especially especially a team in the Broncos that I

1824
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: don't necessarily think is like one of the ten most

1825
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 1: likely teams to win the Super Bowl. Personally, I don't

1826
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: think they're at that level. So picking one of those

1827
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 1: teams on or who they're in the Broncos. Yeah, I

1828
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: mean I would take six or so teams in the

1829
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: eighth Yeah, I would get four more.

1830
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 2: I think that's a lot.

1831
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 4: I'm not judging. I just I mean, I think I

1832
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 4: think they should should be top.

1833
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 1: Judge me, don't judge us that we need one more

1834
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: break because we're doing something different on this show that

1835
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: we won't do the rest of the year. We're going

1836
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 1: to tell you who is making the super Bowl the

1837
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: show Back on NFL Daily, it was it was just

1838
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: bothering me. Even though we did the over Unders podcast

1839
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 1: and pick the most likely teams to win the Super

1840
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 1: Bowl with Daniel Jeremy, we never really just like planted

1841
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: our flag and said what our picks are. And I

1842
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 1: just wanted to get it on the record and then

1843
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 1: we can honk about it at the end of the

1844
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 1: year if anyone's right. I mean, we may be the

1845
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: best preview show, uh in the business, but we're not humble.

1846
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 1: So Steve Weisch, you kick us off some of us

1847
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 1: and you give me your super Bowl pick.

1848
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 5: Hey man, I I am there's good. There's gonna be

1849
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 5: no need for the National Guard to be in DC because.

1850
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 2: There never was.

1851
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 3: There never was.

1852
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 5: But the Ravens over the Commanders keeping a d crab

1853
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 5: cakes mambo sauce. We're just gonna have right there games

1854
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 5: me and in San Francisco. But two teams hovering over

1855
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 5: the nation's capital fighting it out.

1856
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 2: I love that.

1857
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 1: And there really is kind of a rivalry there among

1858
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 1: among the fans. I mean, they don't play each other,

1859
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: but they're not fans of each other as like.

1860
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 4: No, I think that's like an all fun potential matchup there. Honestly,

1861
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 4: I just you know, Lamar Jaden, you know it's really

1862
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 4: good one.

1863
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 5: I like.

1864
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 1: I like that You're not only saying the Commanders aren't

1865
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: gonna slide back, but they're gonna get better this year.

1866
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 3: I think I think they're gonna be better. I think

1867
01:24:59,120 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 3: they'd be a better team.

1868
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:00,879
Speaker 2: Jordan.

1869
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:06,560
Speaker 4: I these guys. I was so high on them last year, quarterback.

1870
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 4: I would build a franchise around tomorrow if I had

1871
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 4: a chance. They bit me in the you know what

1872
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 4: last year by failing to go as far as I

1873
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 4: would have liked. I'm picking the Houston Texans. Wow, it's

1874
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 4: going different. So it's a wild card pick. If they

1875
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 4: can run the ball and if they can't. Now they

1876
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 4: I guarantee you they're going to try to be able

1877
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 4: to do it before the trade deadline by treating someone

1878
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 4: in Hey, maybe getting by the Rams and trading for

1879
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 4: one of their nine million running backs who they don't use.

1880
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 4: So I feel like this is a Texans team that

1881
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 4: knows what it's about. It has an identity. Demico Ryans

1882
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 4: has done such a fantastic job, and I think they've

1883
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 4: got this energy internally to them and they didn't make

1884
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 4: it far enough to be gassed and tired coming into

1885
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 4: the second season. This burnout is real and I have

1886
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 4: them going over the Eagles, Okay, And I know it's crazy,

1887
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 4: and Eagles fans, I love you and I love your team,

1888
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 4: but man, I think this Eagles team is strong enough

1889
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 4: to get there, but just not.

1890
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: Quite get over the fin It's extremely difficult to to

1891
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 1: get back every step. But you have them getting back

1892
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl in the third time in four years.

1893
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 4: And Texans, please do this for me.

1894
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: I love it and that surprises me. And like you,

1895
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 1: I feel like you kept it close to the vest.

1896
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean I did offseason. You're picking the Rams this week,

1897
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: but that's only week one. You say that Texans will

1898
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: get better get there in the end.

1899
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 3: Patrick, Yeah, and I'm sure I won't surprise you with

1900
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 3: my super Bowl pick because I had said during last

1901
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 3: season and in the playoffs that the Green Bay Packers

1902
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 3: were a player away. They were a player away. That's

1903
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 3: why I thought they were in for Miles Garrett. And

1904
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 3: then I feel like a couple of weeks ago, they

1905
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 3: just called Dallas with the exact offer that they had

1906
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 3: for Miles Garrett, made the trade, They made a deal

1907
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 3: with Micah, threw some more money in there. So I

1908
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 3: will have them going to the Super Bowl and losing

1909
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 3: for the third consecutive year. I'm picking to Baltimore Ravens

1910
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 3: to the super Bowl again. The ball's not rounds. Circumstances happened.

1911
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 3: People make mistakes. I'm one of them. I've got Ravens Overpacker.

1912
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't love that we're so in unison here because

1913
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 1: I too have the Baltimore Ravens winning the Super Bowl.

1914
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 4: Now I'm the only one who's idiosyncratic here.

1915
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 2: It is uh, it is surprising.

1916
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 1: If you're watching on YouTube, Patrick has put a computer

1917
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: over the top of.

1918
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:24,719
Speaker 3: His head kevlar.

1919
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: Maybe we're all just bored of picking the Chiefs for

1920
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: the first you know, four years. I think of Patrick

1921
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,719
Speaker 1: Mahomes's starting career, I had them winning the Super Bowl

1922
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: and just at a certain point you get bored of

1923
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 1: doing it at the Bills getting there last year. But

1924
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 1: I have the Ravens winning over the Lions in the

1925
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl this year. So I just it's the game

1926
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 1: I want to see, and ultimately, like, I think that's

1927
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 1: not the worst way to pick things. I also think

1928
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: in terms of like continuity, talent, experience, the organization, like

1929
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 1: these two teams right now are are right there with anyone.

1930
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 3: I think.

1931
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 2: I'm just so impressed with what Detroit has done. It

1932
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 2: hurts me.

1933
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,640
Speaker 1: I was thinking Detroit all off season, and then when

1934
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Speaker 1: I wrote down the pick, it's like, oh, wait, Lamar

1935
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Speaker 1: and Jared Goff and like the Super I gotta pick Lamar.

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Speaker 2: Let's go Ravens.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's funny none of us pick the Chiefs. But

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Speaker 5: I think we probably all feel, even though three teams

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Speaker 5: that division went to the playoffs last year, that that division,

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Speaker 5: because the Raiders are going to be better, Like that

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Speaker 5: division is so hard.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Chiefs necessarily as vulnerable. I think

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Speaker 3: that division is going to be so tough for them

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Speaker 3: to come.

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Speaker 4: It's like those vintage NFC West late season matchups that

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Speaker 4: they used to all cannibalize each other.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy though, because it feels like like

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Speaker 1: half the divisions in the league are like that when

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Speaker 1: you when you start the season, you have all these

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Speaker 1: like great ideas, like the NFC North is unstoppable.

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Speaker 2: I love this AFC West, this NFC West. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Like they're all so good that every division game feels

1954
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Speaker 1: so big and like six weeks from now, everything we just.

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Speaker 4: Said, everyone's gonna be good.

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Speaker 3: Right games up on Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: I really am excited about doing this entire season with

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Speaker 1: you guys on this previews show and doing the show

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Speaker 1: here from the Chris Westling podcast studio.

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Speaker 1: and subscribe and also check us out. If you're listening,

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Speaker 2: Don't even know what you call it for.

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Speaker 3: To be the NFL app.

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Speaker 1: It's it's there, and it's there, and those shows will

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Speaker 1: be airing every week on when is it Wednesday and

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Speaker 1: Friday at seven pm Eastern time. All right, you will

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Speaker 1: next hear me on a recap of an actual NFL game.

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Speaker 3: There we go, There we go, let's get it well done.

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Speaker 1: We'll be recapping Eagles and Cowboys. That'll be me and

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Speaker 1: Nick Shuk. We're also going to be doing a live

1974
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Speaker 1: YouTube after the Friday night game. We'll get ready for

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Speaker 1: Friday night's game. But yeah, until we're recapping it a

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Speaker 1: freaking an about game